Don't settle for anything less than $25, people have been working with the company for 15 years make less than that, it's time for the pay to reflect the inflation, anything less from this billion dollar corporation is an insult.
@@allencanard979this is where we need to change our mindsets. We need to stop expecting it to fall on the customers and start coming out of their profits.
LOL at low wages. It’s an unskilled position that give you full healthcare benefits. UPSers are striking for new hires that don’t even work at UPS yet. All to make SOB look good for Amazon workers.
@@CuddinCraigfull healthcare should be given considering the amount of back breaking labor they do. You may say unskilled but you probably couldn’t do the job.
@@aikalo80 Well if it’s so bad, get another part time job that will pay you $20+ an hour, give you full benefits, and a pension. There’s a reason you won’t because you can’t find a part time job that offers that. Also I didn’t say unskilled as a put down, it’s unskilled as in they can hire most people off the street to do the job. They aren’t low wages and no new hire is gonna get $25 an hour. Weird that you’re fight so hard for new hires but no one else. You’re a fraud.
A full time driver Unloads 200 Plus packages in 8 Hours. A part time loader Loads 800 Plus packages In 3 hours at a full sprint and get treated like garbage. Its not an easy job WE DESERVE MORE!
A full time driver unloads more like 250-400 packages in about 10 hours while driving around in a toaster oven of a truck. Those 100 pound plus packages that just have to get walked a few feet into the package car have to sometime be carried on a hand truck for an entire city block to get delivered. When a package is too heavy for a loader that loader can get help. We drivers are out there with no help. All of this while still navigating that huge package car through city streets. We deserve more too. In fact we are underpaid
@@bill1903 I dont Work in the city. The highest ive seen is 400 on one truck During peak. Ive been on the truck too so i get it, But your missing the point. Both jobs are hard! im just tired of everyone saying the drivers are the only people that work just because there "Full Time". A full time Driver makes triple that of a part timer for no reason other than The buzz Word "FULL TIME"
Retired, that why we need the Union more than ever .C E O's becoming billionaires while workers are treated like Slaves. I was in the Union for 30 years & l am very happy being retired & get my wonderful Pension. Workers go for it , don't let up .Corporations never back you up
Fire ups management. Too busy looking at numbers and answering to numbers about the previous day. It's a joke management and even dispatch hasn't a clue. You can get a job in my city for $3.25 more at McDonald's.... Sweat shop or flip burgers in AC for more money...
Great job UPS Union members. Stand together for all. Don't do like our Union here in Tuscaloosa. Voting opposite of our sister union and against less than 40 senior members reducing our salaries and removing our grandfather status while our sister union voted down the same contract. Wages Men earned and built over the years and they knocked them back down. So sad. Be a Union of Winners for all. Not a union of Eager Losers like the one I'm "associated" with.
I never got $15 an hour in all the years I used to work. $120 a day for 8 hours. I would have almost killed for that before deductions. Most I ever made was $9 an hour. The issue should not be wages. It should be about greedy landlords who keep raising rents in an already inflationary economy.
When I first got hired in 2007, you had to know all the zip codes for your designated trailers. Just loading a specific Las Vegas trailer, you’d load close to 2000 packages in about 3-4 hours. Now you have computers sorting these packages and you don’t need to know zip codes. So more and more volume is thrown at you in shorter times. 20/ hr here in SoCal is poverty pay. They need to add WAY more full time jobs including inside the building and shorten the progression to top rate pay. Right now if you start an inside full time job, you are stuck at below $21/hr for 3 years and your 4th year you get top rate.
This is true I was part time for years. I started at $8.50 an hour I have 4 kids. I was once getting government assistance too. Thank God I make full time now and I am 17 years in with ups. It’s hot no one is on the same page. It’s alot of work. One thing I like is the health insurance coverage. When I was part time I had to hustle. I learned so many jobs at ups. From shipping to preload, shipping at cc, clerk work and I worked in the office for extra hours. That’s how I stayed afloat as a part time learn more jobs bc it helps. I didn’t need to get a second job bc I knew different jobs.
Unpopular opinion probably but $16 is pretty damn good for entry level unskilled labor. I made 15/hr when I started both at Caterpillar assembly line, and at my first SKILLED labor job much later in life. I wasn't well off, but making it and I was supporting a deadbeat gf while working are the skilled labor job. I'm all for a livable wage, but i don't necessarily agree with every skilless mcdonalds cashier making as much as i do when I've actually put the work in to get marketable skills and a job that reflects that.
I was a part time preloader in a building that didn’t have full time preloaders. Same job. Exact same job. Full timers make $1 more an hour than drivers. The union screwed the members in 1982 and it hasn’t stopped for part timers. Sean O’Brien isn’t someone I trust though. We shall see how this plays out. I was f’ed by my business agent. I know that. UPS upper management is scum.
The CEO’s wake up in a cold sweat thinking about having to pay workers more. Too bad. I say strike. It’ll be painful for Americans in the short term but if that what it takes, so be it. We stand with you.
I work at UPS in feeders and I’ve made a good friend, was one of the guy who works at UPS, another feeder driver, the four year progression it’s BS. This man does the same job I do even though I have already gone through that four year progression is BS and the fact that I had to do it is BS. This man deserves to make the same wage I do because he does the same job I do, even though I had to do the same BS I don’t think it’s fair and he didn’t even get the cost a living wage increase that we all got which was like $1.25 that’s not fair so I hope we strike I hope after the strike he gets everything he deserves
I'm a driver, what you have to understand is there's not enough work to create more full time inside jobs, if you work preload, once the sort is over there's nothing else to do. Part-time should get paid more,absolutely, but they can't just create 40 hour inside jobs when there's nothing to do. Night sort is different, they have more full-time inside jobs. Btw i worked preload for 13 years, started at 9 dollars an hour. Went driving so i could have a career and make more money.
I started in 94 part time. Went to package now feeder’s. Part time was by far the hardest job. When I started in 94 it was $8hr minimum wage was 4.25. 30 years later it’s only gone up $7 that’s ridiculous. I think inflation went up way more then that.
I too started in 94. It was 8. 97 it was 9$ 2013 it was 10.50. 2018 it was 13.50. 2022 it's 15.50. But every year, every decade... the work has been excruciatingly brutal.
During the Holidays, they pay seasonals MORE than $20 per hour, PLUS a weekly bonus just to show up to work every day! And, new drivers start at $21 per hour, and may only work 2 or 3 days a week if it is slow during their probation. Once they make probation, they are still bottom of seniority and first to be told to go home, not enough work. p/t and drivers work in sweltering heat and freezing cold, The hubs do not have heat or a/c. If human resources hires10 p/t, 2 might be around after a week.
That weekly bonus is not available at all hubs. And ups did away with in-house HR. They ain’t hiring no one. A computer will hire anyone if they have boots and can lift 70 lbs.
I have 2 sons at UPS. One is in management now. He started out at the bottom. He says they have been practicing loading this past week just a bit. My youngest just started. 16.20 an hour for him. He wants to be a driver. He is taking college classes as well. The last few weeks has been nothing but talks about the possible yet foreseeable strike. We will see.
I started last peak and No None of that was true in my case. I make 16 and never received a bonus. Maybe overtime for the 6th day I work but that’s all
in 27 years i have never gotten any bonuses! even after walking into a armed robbery, bit by a dog on my face, screwed out of 7 feeder jobs, i have been through hell.
See the problem is the public hears part-time and they say go get another job. And most of them do. But what kind of job can you get to make up for it? And lastly you don't understand how worn-out you are after just four hours at UPS they don't get lunches they don't get breaks. One preloader loading 3 trucks in 4 hours
@@jimmypage4753 You dont know his volume or number of stops on the routes. You really cant say its a cake walk. If your a hard and competent worker, best believe those trucks have volume.
I just got promoted off of preload about 6 months ago to an office job (still union) and before I left we were loading 3 trucks and all of them had at least 300 and probably one had over 400 packages. It definitely was not a cakewalk. You’re usually pouring sweat within 15 minutes of getting there. And it was a 10 minute break at my hub and that would usually be around 8:30 after all the trucks were unloaded and you’re waiting on air
I have been a Preloader at U.P.S for 17 years in Massachusetts. I started at 9.50 and now I'm at 24.47. Alot of my friends say it's a disgrace. U deserve more money. And not work 2 jobs to get by
I don’t work in shipping so this is just a personal opinion because I see a lot of comments they pack 800 vs 200vs 4000 pieces etc. it should probably go by weight. We recently replaced a refrigerator and I told myself god bless the delivery company because that was extremely heavy. They delivered and installed within an hour or so. So I guess on a 8 hour shift they can probably do 6 max on a good day. So they would say they did 6 deliveries. Ever pick up a full size treadmill , that’s no joke.
Its laughable how peope complain they ought to be paid at least 25/hour and corporate greed, high paid CEOs blah blah blah. That job is a laborer which requires a 5th grade education. If you dont like where you work, quit bitching and become your own boss
Why does nobody talk about the insurance? The good insurance? The good, FREE insurance? What other company provides thousands of dollars of insurance to a person working 10 hours a week at an unskilled job that almost anyone can do?
But guys, if workers start unionizing and their wages go up, the ceos and shareholders might have to settle for aspirations of being millionaires instead of billionaires. Think about those poor, poor rich people who might never become unfathomably rich and powerful! Heck if things get bad enough they might even need corporate bailou- I mean, rich people-welfare!
For many yrs at least 20, the hiring rate was $8.50 then we get $1.50 per yr raises. I went full-time 13yrs after I got hired to get full-rate. It took 13yrs to get full-time which is not fair and I was making $20.10 part-time so if I stayed part-time I would be $25.00 with 17yrs ppl walking in the door make that. Something needs to change for ppl at UPS with years of service
I work Local Sort for UPS in a Central Ohio hub (Part Time) I have 17 years with the company, I too started at $8.50. I currently make $24.82. I fully support new hires getting payed a fair wage. I want all of our teamsters to benefit from this contract but that being said they need to give a pay bump to us long term part timers if they’re going to pay these new hires $20 or more!
@@gregoryhodge9452 No every job is not like that! The starting part time wage for over 25 years was $8.50 an hour. UPS did not raise their starting wage to keep up with inflation for 20 something years. If they had the current starting part time wage would be $25 and hour. Which means someone with 17 years would make just over $30 an hour.
They want drivers and hub workers to resent each other don’t fall for it both jobs are hard but there is a reason drivers should and do make more money. I’ve done both jobs and driving is by far way harder.
Lol the position is Part-time! That doesn’t mean that you go try to raise a family with this job. This is a position to supplement your full time job if you want to make more money.
@@aikalo80 hey twice the amount is good and it’s part time. Again it’s to help supplement your full time job. Tired of hearing ppl complain they can’t live of of part time. Your not supposed to that’s why it’s part time.
@@AL-pb1lb well I agree no one should and i only hear that from the union president and that’s just to push his agenda. No one should live or try to raise a family on a part time job but that’s not to say they don’t deserve $25 per hr or more per hour for the 15 to 20 hrs they work. It’s still a physically tough laborious job.
The teamster have to fight for the part timers because our part timers do not believe in the union like these old school guys do. They do not vote or come to union meetings. Majority that do are about to retire
I like that ups is union...i choose them as carrier when i get a choice when buying something online. NEVER HAVE ISSUES! .i always have issues with fedex, lying that package was delivered..but then i dont get for two days after that(regular thing) And then I call their 1 800 number and talk to a guy in Pakistan. And all he can tell me is it says the package is delivered....🤬🤬🤬 There is a reason why UPS is the biggestvand the best out there, is because they used to pay their people the most.... So they got better quality employees...... If they don't watch it and they try getting cheap, they're gonna lose their good employees.....
As a part-timer we handle 3times the volume in 3 hours loading trucks or trailers with the mistreatment of management who cut hours at a fast pace..handlers deserve more…STRIKE AGAINST THE GREED WHILE BEGINNERS DROP LIKE FLYS IN THE WAREHOUSE
Part time is not there for u to make a living. It’s a starting point to a better position! If u still PT five years later and u don’t have another good paying job? Maybe time for u to quit and move on! UPS isn’t for everyone!
Wow the unions gotta be careful that they don’t try to break the Teamsters like yellow freight is doing they tried to break the Teamsters that’s what’s going on right now the part-timers are not full-time because they don’t wanna make the union strong they want to make it week if they hired a part-time did you go to stronger Union and that’s exactly what’s happening at Yolo they’re not they don’t have money anyone operate with low wages that’s ridiculous but the teachers need to stay with her and stay strong and stay with the drivers in the workers
You’d think with all the money they make they could fix their online tracking system?!? It is the worst in the industry. Having said that, in the last 30 years I’ve never met a rude UPS driver and I always make it a point to grab my package as soon as they drop it off and yell thank you as they drive off.
Are you seriously talking about greed?? UPS made 100 billion dollars of PURE profit in the last 10 years. That's BILLION. You think its greedy for people who are actually producing value to be compensated? I dont see shareholders getting up at 3am to go load package cars. Or missing kids baseball games to bring you your toilet paper. Get a clue
They aren't training anyone, UPS has people in management who never did deliveries before nor every work in the hub, they got their job because dad or mom got them in.
@@aikalo80 I can confirm after talking to a supervisor next week they start training as a PVD driver. But I agree delivering what volume I just don't know.
@@itsMARTIKAI oh I know. I talked to a sup last night at work and he was told he will either driver help or will run packages from his personal vehicle.
I just don’t understand it. I mean if all these “other companies” are giving employees raises they why not work for them. No one is forcing anyone to work at UPS. It’s not the only in America. Let em do what they want and leave.
Rediculous comment. Full timers and many part timers are happy. Our contract is up. Record profits every year. 16 billion last year. Why not hold out for more. Ups want to give ceo carol Tome who makes 27 million a year another huge bonus and reward shareholders w that money. They don't want to share it with the backbone of the company, it's workers. Nobody is leaving. Contract is almost done. Drivers getting everything they wanted, stuck on part time wages. You are what is wrong with corporate greed, and politics. Don't like it , go elsewhere, just accept the scraps. Imagine if our forefathers had your mentality. We'd all be working for a few dollars a day. Working 16 hour shifts and women would be stuck in the kitchen.
Do you think people want to work a laborious job if they have a choice? I didn't want to, but I did. I applied to a lot of places, but UPS was the only one that hired me immediately without an interview. When push comes to shove, you just do what's given to you.
Im at fedex and i dunno if the threat of strike is influencing consumers but my route has jumped in the last week to 130 stops and 450 packages this is sops and pick ups combined. My back feels like a pretzel
Management loading the trucks 😂 wish I could see it. Even if they make management load and deliver. With the pilots being grounded.. nothing will be moving. Volume during strike will be low
I am retired from UPS. 41 years. Struck twice. Neither one lasted more than just a few days. Several other times we came very close to striking but settled with company at the last minute. The last strike in ‘98 was over the same main issue that is in contention today. Part timers. If a tentative agreement is not reached by midnight July 31 then there most certainly will be a work stoppage by at least 90% of the current work force. I’ve been retired over 3 years now but have two sons still working there full time for 21 years each and they will walk if a strike is called. I hope that bridge isn’t crossed.
Been there 13 in half years only at 22 dollars an hour now they want newbies to get 20 an hour wow were is my pay increase 😢😢😢 and I'm with the union and also part time wow
@@aikalo80 what negotiations have you seen where they tell you everything going on as far as what the company is offering or not? Everyone on the Committee had to sign NDAs
Voluntarily pay 1hub $23 an hour to start paying the rest of your Hub $16 an hour to start. The total definition of discrimination. In a non-union shop you'll get away with that but not when you're all part of teamsters. You chose to pay the higher wage.
@@Novusod never said it wasn't legal. Doesn't mean it's not right they just do that because it's their world Hub the headquarters they want that in the best shape and to get the best people. It's legal discrimination
All picketers need to picket in front of their boss and supervisors homes and in front of your workplace. All scabs dont accept any job for less thsn $42 an hour.😅
You have to be part time to be full-time at ups and I am a full time employee so it's not like any other part time you have to work at minimum wages for what you do until your number called
In the late 80's - UPS package handlers were making roughly $8 an hour, while minimum wage was ~$3-4..... with inflation, that equates to about $25. Today, they make $15-19 bucks an hour........................ If you're part time, most people are part time for a reason. Whether they have a second job, a 2nd side project, school, etc. - I started in 2014 making 10 bucks an hour..... and after 9 years, my part time rate is $18.... luckily, i'm also a driver, a part time driver (Yes those exist) so i'm able to make ends meet. But true part time package handlers need a base raise so they dont have to work a 3rd job......... People work for UPS for the benefits, people stay part time at UPS because they dont want to drive, because the benefits are that good.
@@LiquidKnees $8 in the 80's is not true at all. I started in 2006 and I was paid $8. I don't know where you made that number up but it is false. When I started I knew a guy that had been there probably early to mid 90's that told me he started of at around $4. Please stop spreading false information. Part time upsers get full time benefits. Great benefits. Everybody puts in their dues at first and if you last 10 plus yrs you can make pretty good money but stop acting like your working like a slave for no money. We about to strike because we are asking for way too much. How Do I support my family now? When scabs start to work our job? UPS is a business and it's crazy how we can demonize a business for profiting. The Marxists are truly winning
Would probably help with that turnover rate as well. They have record profits and pushing earnings back till August 8. While rank and file members are fighting for part-timers Really says something!!!
I worked for them unloading trucks 🤦🏾♂️ 😂. Them mfs want you to rush doing back breaking work for $15hr and then make you wait a good amount for benefits 😂😂 worked there maybe 2 months
And management expects their workers to sort like 800 packages an hour thats unloading and loading tractor trailers and if you work in an easy area (HUH) called small sort they expect you to sort 900/1000 an hour and god for bid you slow down or stop to say a quick word to co-worker. They work us to the bone and after so many years our body gives out doing repetitive sorting. Then deny workers comp claim when ppl have same injuries, shoulders, wrist, back
Raise wages for part timers? Part time people arent supposed to be able to live off that wage. This is probably the same guy who complains cuz everything else in our society costs so much due to these cry baby unions wanting unreasonable wages. A monkey can do these entry level jobs
I've been there 10 years and make 20 bucks an hour. New hires at my hub in knoxville only make 4 bucks less than I do now. Its crazy. At my hub, a mediocre loader puts out 1300+ packages in 4 hours. Pretty shitty chick fillet down the street is hiring 18 an hour right off the street at full time but ups can't give us a fucking inflation raise.
I make $25/hour and I’ve worked at UPS as a part-time package handler for almost 20 years (this October). I started at $8.50 (I think). I was pleased as punch because a) it was the most I was ever paid, and b) I was paid weekly as opposed to bi-weekly (I worked fast-food until that point).
I've been employed at UPS for 33 years and yes $8.50 was the starting pay, I'm a driver just shy of $40 hr times have change other companies are starting their employees at $18-$22 an hour it's time for UPS to pay up!!
@@bobbyjr7835Definitely time for them to pay up. I just got my first truck driving job for $27.00/hr. Time and a half over 40hrs. I applied to a bunch of places. Dayton Freight was starting at $31/hr in my area. R&L was also $27/hr. I can't believe people are accepting this low of pay.
I think $20 to start for part timers is fair with yearly increases. Don't forget part timers get paid vacation time, sick time, medical insurance and even pension. You can't get that at McDonalds. I worked multiple jobs and had roommates to cut cost when I was a preloader for UPS back in the 90's. Don't expect a living wage off 4hr shifts.
When you voluntarily pay 1hub $23 an hour to start and the rest of your hubs are at 16 that is literally by the law discrimination. Because you choose it it wasn't forced on you
@@joebsniffs That's because UPS had to entice new workers to come in, this happened to all employers during the pandemic. From what I hear this is going away as the labor market is easing. It doesn't make it right but hopefully this will get ironed out in the new contract.
It’s actually called “market rate adjustment” and they been doing it for the last decade. FT need wage increases as well effective immediately. Wages ain’t keeping up with inflation idc if you make 100k a year if your wages are stagnant your purchasing powers out the window.
Well maybe they should look for job if you aren't making it at a part-time job go get another part time Walmart pays more and if don't do it its just because you don't want to work and you need to quit crying about
I say about $22 a hour I worked ups during their peak season as a temp for $20 a hr but the volume that comes through ups, you would think $22. This is bigger then ups the minimum wage should be between $10-$12 dollars by now
They still have to work on a deal and send it out for a vote. Who knows how long that will take, couple weeks i’m assuming. so I think strike is going down.
UPS won’t take a strike. They will lose so much more with a strike then to settle. With the UPS pilots and other teamster groups around the country in support, UPS will get burned with a prolonged strike. UPS management will settle with the Teamsters.
Part time poverty .. try full time poverty too the first 3 years of progression is pathetic 21,23,24$ an hour…can barely afford rent on that. And that’s a full time position….
The whole 5yrs I been there u.p.s full time sup. Tell parttime sup. To do Union work sooo when they say train sups.. they do the work already sooo lol funny
Don't settle for anything less than $25, people have been working with the company for 15 years make less than that, it's time for the pay to reflect the inflation, anything less from this billion dollar corporation is an insult.
And when the cost of shipping goes through the roof even higher than it already is then what?
@@allencanard979this is where we need to change our mindsets. We need to stop expecting it to fall on the customers and start coming out of their profits.
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The CEO makes 19 Million dollars a year, but cannot pay a fair wage….corporate greed at its best !
She can. But won't. That makes it worse.
It's those package loaders and handlers that work their asses off for low wages. They should be starting at $25
LOL at low wages. It’s an unskilled position that give you full healthcare benefits. UPSers are striking for new hires that don’t even work at UPS yet. All to make SOB look good for Amazon workers.
@@CuddinCraigunskilled dont make me laugh why don't you try it out tell me it takes no skill
@@lyssanch3096at this rate, welding and construction are becoming easier jobs than part time ups
@@CuddinCraigfull healthcare should be given considering the amount of back breaking labor they do. You may say unskilled but you probably couldn’t do the job.
@@aikalo80 Well if it’s so bad, get another part time job that will pay you $20+ an hour, give you full benefits, and a pension. There’s a reason you won’t because you can’t find a part time job that offers that.
Also I didn’t say unskilled as a put down, it’s unskilled as in they can hire most people off the street to do the job. They aren’t low wages and no new hire is gonna get $25 an hour. Weird that you’re fight so hard for new hires but no one else. You’re a fraud.
A full time driver Unloads 200 Plus packages in 8 Hours. A part time loader Loads 800 Plus packages In 3 hours at a full sprint and get treated like garbage. Its not an easy job WE DESERVE MORE!
I handled over 4,000 pieces in 4 hours today, just to pocket $65…the math ain’t mathing there. 🤔
A full time driver unloads more like 250-400 packages in about 10 hours while driving around in a toaster oven of a truck. Those 100 pound plus packages that just have to get walked a few feet into the package car have to sometime be carried on a hand truck for an entire city block to get delivered. When a package is too heavy for a loader that loader can get help. We drivers are out there with no help. All of this while still navigating that huge package car through city streets. We deserve more too. In fact we are underpaid
800??😂😂😂😂 I unload up to 3 fully loaded 53ft container every morning about 4,000 packages PLUS iregs 😮....800😅😅😅cute
@@bill1903 I dont Work in the city. The highest ive seen is 400 on one truck During peak. Ive been on the truck too so i get it, But your missing the point. Both jobs are hard! im just tired of everyone saying the drivers are the only people that work just because there "Full Time". A full time Driver makes triple that of a part timer for no reason other than The buzz Word "FULL TIME"
You need to get your PPH up 😂😂
Aircraft Mx isn't going to work either. We are striking along with the pilots.
Changing jobs is easier than changing corporate minds. 😂😂 A living wage job started dying in the 80's. Greed greed and slave labor go hand in hand.
Retired, that why we need the Union more than ever .C E O's becoming billionaires while workers are treated like Slaves. I was in the Union for 30 years & l am very happy being retired & get my wonderful Pension. Workers go for it , don't let up .Corporations never back you up
Fire ups management. Too busy looking at numbers and answering to numbers about the previous day. It's a joke management and even dispatch hasn't a clue. You can get a job in my city for $3.25 more at McDonald's.... Sweat shop or flip burgers in AC for more money...
With full health insurance and pension that pays into perpetuity….. or $4225 *BEFORE* taxes.
A lot of management is also former drivers or employees who couldn’t take the hard labor work.
Great job UPS Union members. Stand together for all. Don't do like our Union here in Tuscaloosa. Voting opposite of our sister union and against less than 40 senior members reducing our salaries and removing our grandfather status while our sister union voted down the same contract. Wages Men earned and built over the years and they knocked them back down. So sad. Be a Union of Winners for all. Not a union of Eager Losers like the one I'm "associated" with.
I never got $15 an hour in all the years I used to work. $120 a day for 8 hours. I would have almost killed for that before deductions.
Most I ever made was $9 an hour.
The issue should not be wages.
It should be about greedy landlords who keep raising rents in an already inflationary economy.
When I first got hired in 2007, you had to know all the zip codes for your designated trailers. Just loading a specific Las Vegas trailer, you’d load close to 2000 packages in about 3-4 hours. Now you have computers sorting these packages and you don’t need to know zip codes. So more and more volume is thrown at you in shorter times. 20/ hr here in SoCal is poverty pay. They need to add WAY more full time jobs including inside the building and shorten the progression to top rate pay. Right now if you start an inside full time job, you are stuck at below $21/hr for 3 years and your 4th year you get top rate.
This is true I was part time for years. I started at $8.50 an hour I have 4 kids. I was once getting government assistance too. Thank God I make full time now and I am 17 years in with ups. It’s hot no one is on the same page. It’s alot of work. One thing I like is the health insurance coverage. When I was part time I had to hustle. I learned so many jobs at ups. From shipping to preload, shipping at cc, clerk work and I worked in the office for extra hours. That’s how I stayed afloat as a part time learn more jobs bc it helps. I didn’t need to get a second job bc I knew different jobs.
Unpopular opinion probably but $16 is pretty damn good for entry level unskilled labor. I made 15/hr when I started both at Caterpillar assembly line, and at my first SKILLED labor job much later in life. I wasn't well off, but making it and I was supporting a deadbeat gf while working are the skilled labor job. I'm all for a livable wage, but i don't necessarily agree with every skilless mcdonalds cashier making as much as i do when I've actually put the work in to get marketable skills and a job that reflects that.
I was a part time preloader in a building that didn’t have full time preloaders. Same job. Exact same job. Full timers make $1 more an hour than drivers. The union screwed the members in 1982 and it hasn’t stopped for part timers. Sean O’Brien isn’t someone I trust though. We shall see how this plays out. I was f’ed by my business agent. I know that. UPS upper management is scum.
Grade Lane Kentucky.. Greeting's from Trenton, NJ hub.
I'm always pro worker and pro union. Anyone with a brain should be sick of these greedy corporations, never wanting to share the wealth.
These CEOs might not get paid as much if they raise the pay for the workers. That'd be a shame.
The CEO’s wake up in a cold sweat thinking about having to pay workers more. Too bad. I say strike. It’ll be painful for Americans in the short term but if that what it takes, so be it. We stand with you.
I work at UPS in feeders and I’ve made a good friend, was one of the guy who works at UPS, another feeder driver, the four year progression it’s BS. This man does the same job I do even though I have already gone through that four year progression is BS and the fact that I had to do it is BS. This man deserves to make the same wage I do because he does the same job I do, even though I had to do the same BS I don’t think it’s fair and he didn’t even get the cost a living wage increase that we all got which was like $1.25 that’s not fair so I hope we strike I hope after the strike he gets everything he deserves
$25
I'm a driver, what you have to understand is there's not enough work to create more full time inside jobs, if you work preload, once the sort is over there's nothing else to do. Part-time should get paid more,absolutely, but they can't just create 40 hour inside jobs when there's nothing to do. Night sort is different, they have more full-time inside jobs. Btw i worked preload for 13 years, started at 9 dollars an hour. Went driving so i could have a career and make more money.
I started in 94 part time. Went to package now feeder’s. Part time was by far the hardest job. When I started in 94 it was $8hr minimum wage was 4.25. 30 years later it’s only gone up $7 that’s ridiculous. I think inflation went up way more then that.
2016 starting pay was 10
What did you say? It was$8 or $4.25?
I too started in 94.
It was 8.
97 it was 9$
2013 it was 10.50.
2018 it was 13.50.
2022 it's 15.50.
But every year, every decade... the work has been excruciatingly brutal.
@@d.x.352starting wage at ups then was 8 per hour. National minimum wage was 4.25
Please tell me, where Carol Tome is at, comment wise?
On some cruise ship, enjoying her 364-1 ceo-to-worker pay ratio.
She supposed to be the face of the company yet she is in hiding!
She makes $440,000 a week.
During the Holidays, they pay seasonals MORE than $20 per hour, PLUS a weekly bonus just to show up to work every day! And, new drivers start at $21 per hour, and may only work 2 or 3 days a week if it is slow during their probation. Once they make probation, they are still bottom of seniority and first to be told to go home, not enough work. p/t and drivers work in sweltering heat and freezing cold, The hubs do not have heat or a/c. If human resources hires10 p/t, 2 might be around after a week.
That weekly bonus is not available at all hubs. And ups did away with in-house HR. They ain’t hiring no one. A computer will hire anyone if they have boots and can lift 70 lbs.
I have 2 sons at UPS. One is in management now. He started out at the bottom. He says they have been practicing loading this past week just a bit. My youngest just started. 16.20 an hour for him. He wants to be a driver. He is taking college classes as well.
The last few weeks has been nothing but talks about the possible yet foreseeable strike.
We will see.
I started last peak and No None of that was true in my case. I make 16 and never received a bonus. Maybe overtime for the 6th day I work but that’s all
Oh and there were 60 in my training class, only two lasted in small sort. I think maybe 10 in the whole hub lasted til today.
in 27 years i have never gotten any bonuses! even after walking into a armed robbery, bit by a dog on my face, screwed out of 7 feeder jobs, i have been through hell.
STRIKE STRIKE STRIKE
See the problem is the public hears part-time and they say go get another job. And most of them do. But what kind of job can you get to make up for it? And lastly you don't understand how worn-out you are after just four hours at UPS they don't get lunches they don't get breaks. One preloader loading 3 trucks in 4 hours
they get a 15min break and 3 trucks in 4hrs is a cakewalk. its the sometimes 4th truck that will really ruin your day and stress you tf out
@@jimmypage4753 You dont know his volume or number of stops on the routes. You really cant say its a cake walk. If your a hard and competent worker, best believe those trucks have volume.
I just got promoted off of preload about 6 months ago to an office job (still union) and before I left we were loading 3 trucks and all of them had at least 300 and probably one had over 400 packages. It definitely was not a cakewalk. You’re usually pouring sweat within 15 minutes of getting there. And it was a 10 minute break at my hub and that would usually be around 8:30 after all the trucks were unloaded and you’re waiting on air
We get breaks? That’s news to me.
@@jimmypage4753not all locations get breaks, our preload worked 8-9 hours during pandemic, ZERO BREAK TIME
Even subway pay 15 for cashier Amazon will do the same just for the pension
I have been a Preloader at U.P.S for 17 years in Massachusetts. I started at 9.50 and now I'm at 24.47. Alot of my friends say it's a disgrace. U deserve more money. And not work 2 jobs to get by
Maybe you should move out of Mass.
I don’t work in shipping so this is just a personal opinion because I see a lot of comments they pack 800 vs 200vs 4000 pieces etc. it should probably go by weight. We recently replaced a refrigerator and I told myself god bless the delivery company because that was extremely heavy. They delivered and installed within an hour or so. So I guess on a 8 hour shift they can probably do 6 max on a good day. So they would say they did 6 deliveries. Ever pick up a full size treadmill , that’s no joke.
Normalize strikes.
So French of you! Love it! 🟥⬛️
There are no UPS employees who are homeless unless all your doing is working a 4 hour shift and if 5hat is so get a second job
Its laughable how peope complain they ought to be paid at least 25/hour and corporate greed, high paid CEOs blah blah blah. That job is a laborer which requires a 5th grade education. If you dont like where you work, quit bitching and become your own boss
Why does nobody talk about the insurance? The good insurance? The good, FREE insurance? What other company provides thousands of dollars of insurance to a person working 10 hours a week at an unskilled job that almost anyone can do?
Why dont the unions start a company and and hire all these ppl n pay 25.oo an hour. Problem solved.
It’s a lie. What part time employee can buy a house?
They made 100 billion in profit last year.
Maybe if higher ups were not making 6 figures this would not be an issue
no way living in Homeless Shelter
But guys, if workers start unionizing and their wages go up, the ceos and shareholders might have to settle for aspirations of being millionaires instead of billionaires.
Think about those poor, poor rich people who might never become unfathomably rich and powerful!
Heck if things get bad enough they might even need corporate bailou- I mean, rich people-welfare!
For many yrs at least 20, the hiring rate was $8.50 then we get $1.50 per yr raises. I went full-time 13yrs after I got hired to get full-rate. It took 13yrs to get full-time which is not fair and I was making $20.10 part-time so if I stayed part-time I would be $25.00 with 17yrs ppl walking in the door make that. Something needs to change for ppl at UPS with years of service
I work Local Sort for UPS in a Central Ohio hub (Part Time) I have 17 years with the company, I too started at $8.50. I currently make $24.82. I fully support new hires getting payed a fair wage. I want all of our teamsters to benefit from this contract but that being said they need to give a pay bump to us long term part timers if they’re going to pay these new hires $20 or more!
Every job is like that.
@@gregoryhodge9452 No every job is not like that! The starting part time wage for over 25 years was $8.50 an hour. UPS did not raise their starting wage to keep up with inflation for 20 something years. If they had the current starting part time wage would be $25 and hour. Which means someone with 17 years would make just over $30 an hour.
"UPS is training management..." 😂😂😂
I've got twenty years of service for UPS. I'm willing to strike for someone with only twenty days. That's brotherhood.
Shot out to you !!
If you are full time then why not give up $3 or $4 an hour off of your pay for the PT people. That would really be a sacrifice.
They want drivers and hub workers to resent each other don’t fall for it both jobs are hard but there is a reason drivers should and do make more money. I’ve done both jobs and driving is by far way harder.
Lol the position is Part-time! That doesn’t mean that you go try to raise a family with this job. This is a position to supplement your full time job if you want to make more money.
I kind of agree... because as a full timer I'm gonna want the same percentage increase in my hourly wages.
That doesn’t mean you pay them peanuts per hr, they can work 15-20 hrs and still deserve a good wage.
@@aikalo80 hey twice the amount is good and it’s part time. Again it’s to help supplement your full time job. Tired of hearing ppl complain they can’t live of of part time. Your not supposed to that’s why it’s part time.
@@AL-pb1lb well I agree no one should and i only hear that from the union president and that’s just to push his agenda. No one should live or try to raise a family on a part time job but that’s not to say they don’t deserve $25 per hr or more per hour for the 15 to 20 hrs they work. It’s still a physically tough laborious job.
@@aikalo80 18-20.00 maybe but not 25.00. If that’s not enough well there’s other options.
I remember when the mail business even ups thought they were going under and complained now too much work still complaining
The teamster have to fight for the part timers because our part timers do not believe in the union like these old school guys do. They do not vote or come to union meetings. Majority that do are about to retire
I like that ups is union...i choose them as carrier when i get a choice when buying something online. NEVER HAVE ISSUES!
.i always have issues with fedex, lying that package was delivered..but then i dont get for two days after that(regular thing) And then I call their 1 800 number and talk to a guy in Pakistan.
And all he can tell me is it says the package is delivered....🤬🤬🤬
There is a reason why UPS is the biggestvand the best out there, is because they used to pay their people the most.... So they got better quality employees...... If they don't watch it and they try getting cheap, they're gonna lose their good employees.....
As a part-timer we handle 3times the volume in 3 hours loading trucks or trailers with the mistreatment of management who cut hours at a fast pace..handlers deserve more…STRIKE AGAINST THE GREED WHILE BEGINNERS DROP LIKE FLYS IN THE WAREHOUSE
How do you think the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer? There is no UPS without the rank and file. Period.
This is what FedEx should do too, we are so underpayed.
I'm sure the Teamsters would love to get FedEx unionized.
What the deal with the Batman 5 pack?
FedEx and UPS are both going to merge both company's to be one company with their new company name going to be FEDUP LMAO
Part time is not there for u to make a living. It’s a starting point to a better position! If u still PT five years later and u don’t have another good paying job? Maybe time for u to quit and move on! UPS isn’t for everyone!
Wow the unions gotta be careful that they don’t try to break the Teamsters like yellow freight is doing they tried to break the Teamsters that’s what’s going on right now the part-timers are not full-time because they don’t wanna make the union strong they want to make it week if they hired a part-time did you go to stronger Union and that’s exactly what’s happening at Yolo they’re not they don’t have money anyone operate with low wages that’s ridiculous but the teachers need to stay with her and stay strong and stay with the drivers in the workers
Ups is the union😮
Progression not regression
*hundreds of thousands
Solidarity ✊️
Living wage!
FedEx can't handle their own volume. FedEx 👎 SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS 👎
You’d think with all the money they make they could fix their online tracking system?!? It is the worst in the industry. Having said that, in the last 30 years I’ve never met a rude UPS driver and I always make it a point to grab my package as soon as they drop it off and yell thank you as they drive off.
Are you seriously talking about greed?? UPS made 100 billion dollars of PURE profit in the last 10 years. That's BILLION. You think its greedy for people who are actually producing value to be compensated? I dont see shareholders getting up at 3am to go load package cars. Or missing kids baseball games to bring you your toilet paper. Get a clue
They aren't training anyone, UPS has people in management who never did deliveries before nor every work in the hub, they got their job because dad or mom got them in.
Right they are not leaving that air conditioned office to get in a truck and cook all day, lol.
And train them to do what? Airplanes ain’t gonna fly, feeders ain’t gonna run, what packages are they delivering lol
@@aikalo80 I can confirm after talking to a supervisor next week they start training as a PVD driver. But I agree delivering what volume I just don't know.
@@itsMARTIKAI oh I know. I talked to a sup last night at work and he was told he will either driver help or will run packages from his personal vehicle.
@@aikalo80 yeah, lol. They said, " I'll be in my personal vehicle with A/C."
lol, some delays.
I just don’t understand it. I mean if all these “other companies” are giving employees raises they why not work for them. No one is forcing anyone to work at UPS. It’s not the only in America. Let em do what they want and leave.
Rediculous comment. Full timers and many part timers are happy. Our contract is up. Record profits every year. 16 billion last year. Why not hold out for more. Ups want to give ceo carol Tome who makes 27 million a year another huge bonus and reward shareholders w that money. They don't want to share it with the backbone of the company, it's workers. Nobody is leaving. Contract is almost done. Drivers getting everything they wanted, stuck on part time wages. You are what is wrong with corporate greed, and politics. Don't like it , go elsewhere, just accept the scraps. Imagine if our forefathers had your mentality. We'd all be working for a few dollars a day. Working 16 hour shifts and women would be stuck in the kitchen.
Do you think people want to work a laborious job if they have a choice? I didn't want to, but I did. I applied to a lot of places, but UPS was the only one that hired me immediately without an interview. When push comes to shove, you just do what's given to you.
0:58 Brick wall in the background = Mason
Less than 25 an hour is only acceptable if they get formal progression to a top rate like the drivers imo.
Im at fedex and i dunno if the threat of strike is influencing consumers but my route has jumped in the last week to 130 stops and 450 packages this is sops and pick ups combined. My back feels like a pretzel
$20 or more for loaders is good remember driver make more than that when loaders is loading three trucks at a time
It’s 4-5 now
Management loading the trucks 😂 wish I could see it. Even if they make management load and deliver. With the pilots being grounded.. nothing will be moving. Volume during strike will be low
25 dollars an hour for 4 hours a day want make you whole. You'll still want be self reliant
Who cares? If they don’t want to work, Uber and FedEx will pick up the slack.
I am retired from UPS. 41 years. Struck twice. Neither one lasted more than just a few days. Several other times we came very close to striking but settled with company at the last minute. The last strike in ‘98 was over the same main issue that is in contention today. Part timers. If a tentative agreement is not reached by midnight July 31 then there most certainly will be a work stoppage by at least 90% of the current work force. I’ve been retired over 3 years now but have two sons still working there full time for 21 years each and they will walk if a strike is called. I hope that bridge isn’t crossed.
Been there 13 in half years only at 22 dollars an hour now they want newbies to get 20 an hour wow were is my pay increase 😢😢😢 and I'm with the union and also part time wow
In the July, 16th webinar Sean O'Brien clarified that long time part timers will get catch up pay.
11 years here I’m at 21.50
The union is talking about longevity increases for every year an employee has been there
Times have changed, and nobody knows what is going on in negotiations.
@@aikalo80 what negotiations have you seen where they tell you everything going on as far as what the company is offering or not? Everyone on the Committee had to sign NDAs
Harassment should right at the top of negotiations.
Go teamsters get it done Retiree from local769 here UPS is for stockholders profit
Voluntarily pay 1hub $23 an hour to start paying the rest of your Hub $16 an hour to start. The total definition of discrimination. In a non-union shop you'll get away with that but not when you're all part of teamsters. You chose to pay the higher wage.
It is a free market. They can do anything they want that the market can bear.
@@Novusod never said it wasn't legal. Doesn't mean it's not right they just do that because it's their world Hub the headquarters they want that in the best shape and to get the best people. It's legal discrimination
@@joebsniffs So specifically what pay do you want in this contract?
All picketers need to picket in front of their boss and supervisors homes and in front of your workplace. All scabs dont accept any job for less thsn $42 an hour.😅
TEAMSTERS ALL THE WAY!
$20 an hour picking the fields 7.25 you don’t like your job join the club and look for something else if you don’t like it too many whiners in America
It's part time. Nobody can live off working part time.
You have to be part time to be full-time at ups and I am a full time employee so it's not like any other part time you have to work at minimum wages for what you do until your number called
In the late 80's - UPS package handlers were making roughly $8 an hour, while minimum wage was ~$3-4..... with inflation, that equates to about $25. Today, they make $15-19 bucks an hour........................ If you're part time, most people are part time for a reason. Whether they have a second job, a 2nd side project, school, etc. - I started in 2014 making 10 bucks an hour..... and after 9 years, my part time rate is $18.... luckily, i'm also a driver, a part time driver (Yes those exist) so i'm able to make ends meet. But true part time package handlers need a base raise so they dont have to work a 3rd job......... People work for UPS for the benefits, people stay part time at UPS because they dont want to drive, because the benefits are that good.
Part-Time describes hours worked, not how demanding a job is.
Exactly this. No idea why many think they should..
@@LiquidKnees
$8 in the 80's is not true at all. I started in 2006 and I was paid $8. I don't know where you made that number up but it is false. When I started I knew a guy that had been there probably early to mid 90's that told me he started of at around $4. Please stop spreading false information. Part time upsers get full time benefits. Great benefits. Everybody puts in their dues at first and if you last 10 plus yrs you can make pretty good money but stop acting like your working like a slave for no money. We about to strike because we are asking for way too much. How Do I support my family now? When scabs start to work our job? UPS is a business and it's crazy how we can demonize a business for profiting. The Marxists are truly winning
Would probably help with that turnover rate as well. They have record profits and pushing earnings back till August 8.
While rank and file members are fighting for part-timers Really says something!!!
It won’t help with turnover my hub pays $20 an hour and we are still under staffed
@norfsol1990 could be the 100+ Temps.
While working like an Olympian.
Or for the areas that arnt as regulated.
In the winter -10
I worked for them unloading trucks 🤦🏾♂️ 😂. Them mfs want you to rush doing back breaking work for $15hr and then make you wait a good amount for benefits 😂😂 worked there maybe 2 months
What is an "mfs"?
Part-timers need wages that don't starve the workers
"Give Part Timers REAL living wages! 40 HOUR Full Time Positions!" Will be read on MY sign.
And management expects their workers to sort like 800 packages an hour thats unloading and loading tractor trailers and if you work in an easy area (HUH) called small sort they expect you to sort 900/1000 an hour and god for bid you slow down or stop to say a quick word to co-worker. They work us to the bone and after so many years our body gives out doing repetitive sorting. Then deny workers comp claim when ppl have same injuries, shoulders, wrist, back
When I was part-time and worked 52hrs i didn't even take home $900
Raise wages for part timers? Part time people arent supposed to be able to live off that wage. This is probably the same guy who complains cuz everything else in our society costs so much due to these cry baby unions wanting unreasonable wages.
A monkey can do these entry level jobs
30 years at ups and all i can show for it is back pain and daily discomfort
I've been there 10 years and make 20 bucks an hour. New hires at my hub in knoxville only make 4 bucks less than I do now. Its crazy. At my hub, a mediocre loader puts out 1300+ packages in 4 hours. Pretty shitty chick fillet down the street is hiring 18 an hour right off the street at full time but ups can't give us a fucking inflation raise.
I make $25/hour and I’ve worked at UPS as a part-time package handler for almost 20 years (this October). I started at $8.50 (I think). I was pleased as punch because a) it was the most I was ever paid, and b) I was paid weekly as opposed to bi-weekly (I worked fast-food until that point).
I've been employed at UPS for 33 years and yes $8.50 was the starting pay, I'm a driver just shy of $40 hr times have change other companies are starting their employees at $18-$22 an hour it's time for UPS to pay up!!
@@bobbyjr7835I'm a ups emoyee. 90% of you can't go find better paying jobs with equal benefits. If you disagree with that, you're a fkin liar.
@@bobbyjr7835Definitely time for them to pay up. I just got my first truck driving job for $27.00/hr. Time and a half over 40hrs. I applied to a bunch of places. Dayton Freight was starting at $31/hr in my area. R&L was also $27/hr. I can't believe people are accepting this low of pay.
@@bobbyjr7835No one at Worldport makes less than $20.
Exactly people don't appreciate,, I started Amazon at $11.50 make lots more now, people want $25 and most college don't get that😂
I think $20 to start for part timers is fair with yearly increases. Don't forget part timers get paid vacation time, sick time, medical insurance and even pension. You can't get that at McDonalds. I worked multiple jobs and had roommates to cut cost when I was a preloader for UPS back in the 90's. Don't expect a living wage off 4hr shifts.
When you voluntarily pay 1hub $23 an hour to start and the rest of your hubs are at 16 that is literally by the law discrimination. Because you choose it it wasn't forced on you
@@joebsniffs That's because UPS had to entice new workers to come in, this happened to all employers during the pandemic. From what I hear this is going away as the labor market is easing. It doesn't make it right but hopefully this will get ironed out in the new contract.
It’s actually called “market rate adjustment” and they been doing it for the last decade. FT need wage increases as well effective immediately. Wages ain’t keeping up with inflation idc if you make 100k a year if your wages are stagnant your purchasing powers out the window.
@@Lyso1 I totally agree with this statement!
Why not? Look at what the company is making!
Finally a protest that’s meaningful
Well maybe they should look for job if you aren't making it at a part-time job go get another part time Walmart pays more and if don't do it its just because you don't want to work and you need to quit crying about
I say about $22 a hour I worked ups during their peak season as a temp for $20 a hr but the volume that comes through ups, you would think $22. This is bigger then ups the minimum wage should be between $10-$12 dollars by now
Take 50% of ceo $ and give it to workers
Tax the rich
They can always layoff if it gets slow but pay up
8.50 was my entry level pay into UPS. Of course that was almost 20 years ago...
Believe me, they won’t take a strike.
What do you mean? Teamsters won't strike?
They still have to work on a deal and send it out for a vote. Who knows how long that will take, couple weeks i’m assuming. so I think strike is going down.
No, Teamster president already stated that if a deal is on the table they work will continue pass Aug 1.
@@rollastoney your wrong. If they get an acceptable TA, they will move the deadline to accommodate a vote.
UPS won’t take a strike. They will lose so much more with a strike then to settle. With the UPS pilots and other teamster groups around the country in support, UPS will get burned with a prolonged strike. UPS management will settle with the Teamsters.
No one making livable wage working 4 hours a day. Get another job then. Haha
They wanna buy a house working 17 hours a week😀😂🤣😃😃😄
Part time poverty .. try full time poverty too the first 3 years of progression is pathetic 21,23,24$ an hour…can barely afford rent on that. And that’s a full time position….
20 not shyt I make 15 hr that’s just gas money lol cmon greed is a dangerous thing
The whole 5yrs I been there u.p.s full time sup. Tell parttime sup. To do Union work sooo when they say train sups.. they do the work already sooo lol funny