2023 Ducati Scrambler Review | Revolution or Evolution?

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024

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  • @bennettsbikesocial
    @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +5

    At about 09:05 I mention two more bikes in the range, I talk about the Full Throttle and then go on to completely forget to mention the Nightshift. You can see all three bikes in the written review at www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/ducati/scrambler-803-2023-review

    • @travisj2370
      @travisj2370 Рік тому

      i just wish it got cruise control it would be a hell of a light adventure bike

  • @jimread6697
    @jimread6697 Рік тому +7

    Top review guys! Loved my 2019 scrambler and regret selling it. Have called my local dealer today and placed an order (lucky to get to be getting one for June due to demand) did on a pcp for the first time and it cost £136 per month for 3 years with a small deposit. Seems like a great deal to me!

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +2

      Awesome news Jim. Thanks for commenting with the PCP deal too, I'm sure that will help alot of others. We didn't have any details on the PCP deals at time of filming, so its great to keep expanding the knowledge. I bet you can't wait for it to arrive!

  • @martinhughes9769
    @martinhughes9769 Рік тому +7

    Great review, nice to see manufacturers offering several colour choices 👍

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Martin. I think the colour options are great. We didn't mention it in the video, but since filming, we found out that the parts needed to change colour are around £260 from the dealer, so, while not cheap, very affordable. The second hand market will also be full of stock parts as people swap out, meaning you could pick up a cheap set and have them sprayed or wrapped pretty cheaply. I'm really looking forward to seeing what people come up with.

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 Рік тому +6

    Nice thorough review. Also enjoyed the dual presentation chat style. It's a nice bike & I can totally see the appeal but it's rather expensive for what it is & you're definitely paying a heavy premium for the Ducati badge.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +1

      I can't disagree, but for many the cachet of the Ducati brand is enough to cover the extra.

  • @linaandersson5815
    @linaandersson5815 7 місяців тому

    Very nice substantial video and review. Most profound was the man to the right saying the Scrambler brought back his interest and enjoyment of riding a motorcycle.

  • @stevesteve201
    @stevesteve201 Рік тому +2

    I've ordered a full throttle and this is the best review I have seen thanks.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому

      Thank you!

    • @qwertyy94
      @qwertyy94 Рік тому

      how do you like it? Thinking about getting one.

    • @stevesteve201
      @stevesteve201 Рік тому

      I love it. Its my only vehicle. Great around town and on a weekend ride with the lads. The quick shift is well worth having. Seat is a little firm bit that's my only very minor negative. Ow and the servicing costs.

  • @stevenrobertson4190
    @stevenrobertson4190 Рік тому +8

    All three new 2023 800cc Scrambler models are Quick Shifter Ready. On the Icon and Nightshift it's available as a £237.60 Ducati Accessory. However, the Full Throttle has one as standard equipment included in the £10,995 OTR price. They can be ordered now at M&P Ducati, Cardiff where I work as the Ducati Sales Executive.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for the extra info Steven. I do mention pricing in the written article, but its great to have some dealer info too.

  • @PakmanR3
    @PakmanR3 3 місяці тому +1

    Just picked up a nightshift and I absolutely love it. 🥰

  • @jeffcoker48
    @jeffcoker48 Рік тому +8

    Loved my Ducati 1100 scrambler but hated the repair costs and $400 dollar oil changes. Wasnt sure about the extreamly loud engine rattle when it was hot. Im glad its gone now.

    • @MrRGM10
      @MrRGM10 Рік тому

      How did they fix it?

    • @jeffcoker48
      @jeffcoker48 Рік тому +3

      They said it was normal. But i figured it needed a valve adjustment, but they would t admit it . Then what made me get rid of it my 2021 scrambler was while it was under warranty both front and rear brakes stopped working and after them having for a week they said it needed a brake fluid change that was going to cost me $800. So I went to the dealer and traded it in for a Harley. I do not miss it one bit.

    • @donsmith3573
      @donsmith3573 Рік тому +2

      Sounds like you had the front cylinder piston knock like mine, Ducati changed out barrel and piston on warranty for me within two weeks of me reporting the issue. Other than that my 1100 was faultless and I thrashed that bike. Funny I was sad to see mine go

    • @franthevan65
      @franthevan65 Рік тому +1

      400$ for a oil change is ridiculous u can just do it yourself

  • @HuckPlays
    @HuckPlays Рік тому +3

    Great review. But my question is does it still burn your leg like the old ones do?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому

      The rerouted exhaust means that it's a lot further from your leg - you cant touch that part of the exhaust anymore, BUT city riding in +30 deg C heat meant that there was still a lot of heat coming from the engine and exhaust.

    • @HuckPlays
      @HuckPlays Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial thank you for your response. I’ll have to try it out and see if I’m willing to tolerate it I guess. 👍

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller8980 Рік тому +2

    Ducati are premium bikes for a reason. Stunning bike.
    Safe, happy travels 👍

  • @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449

    I brought the 2016 Urban Enduro, as much as I loved the style and low seat height- that was a brick ☝️, I got the seat modded , upgraded the suspension and a small dart screen,made a massive difference in comfort. BUT the poor fuel ⛽️ range in Australia ( as I tank range ) just didn’t do it for me . My latest bike is the Moto Guzzi V85tt -upgraded model with the tubeless rims etc . Has for features I love
    1. Large tank -500km range
    2. All day comfort
    3. Shaft drive
    4. Cruise control
    5. Great TFT layout
    Fantastic timeless looking bike for going to a coffee shop or touring with some light off road .

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +1

      Agreed - the seat on the early models is awful. By the sounds of your needs - I think it was probably the wrong bike for you. The early Urban Enduros looked the part, but I think there was a clue in the title - Urban use only. V85TT is a great choice though - glad you found the right bike!

    • @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
      @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial , after 3 others 😂😂😂

  • @paulconnell1309
    @paulconnell1309 Рік тому

    Very good review, thanks. Hot summer in England this year and I live in a hotter country. What is the Scrambler like on a very hot day in city traffic? Is it a good summer comuter?

  • @DaveMurphyEngineer
    @DaveMurphyEngineer Рік тому +4

    2015 Full Throttle owner here - it seems like ‘the bike’ is still fundamentally the same in 2023 as it was in 2015 - same engine, same power + torque, same basic frame/suspension/handling, same familiar (customisable) styling - but all the ‘improvements’ are electrical gadgets that the bike probably doesn’t need - TFT dash, phone connectivity and rider modes don’t make ‘the bike’ better - Traction control on a bike with 73bhp? Cornering ABS on a bike with soft suspension and only 1 brake disc up front?
    The two main issues from the original bike were the seat - which was a torture device, especially for taller riders - and the clutch, which was a very weak mechanical point. You could argue, as Chad rightly does, that the ‘Hipster’ marketing around the bike hasn’t done it any favours in the long run either. Servicing is expensive (compared to other budget bikes) too with a Desmo servicing needed every 7.5k miles and new timing belts every 15k miles or 5 years - these are competent DIY-er jobs or, more realistically, into a dealer or specialist.
    They were (still are) lovely bikes because of their basic-ness and simplicity, fun character and miles of smiles. It seems all the extra gadgets have taken away from this and inflated the price unnecessarily.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому

      You are spot on. My biggest fear when I saw the new bike was that the no-frills enjoyment of the original bike would be lost - especially with the rider modes, but I was pleased that the original feel of the bike is still there. It makes it a hard sell for Ducati as upgrading is less important for original owners, but equally, it was such a great concept that its great that it stays on-the-whole unchanged. Re the seat - they new one is a big improvement. At 5'6" I liked the low seat of the original, but even I'm finding it a bit low and might start looking for taller seat options. Thanks for your watch, and taking the time to comment. Steve

    • @ronaldvangulden7314
      @ronaldvangulden7314 Рік тому

      In a perfect world no one would need safety equipment like (cornering) ABS or traction control. I've been riding motorcycles for 29 years and had ABS on bikes since early 2000 and allthough I only realy needed it a couple of times I was pretty damn happy I had it on my bike when I did. Now I own the Scrambler 1100 wich has traction control, something I never had or missed before but knieing I have this extra bit of safety when I might need it in some situations just gives me that extra peace of mind. Still always try to ride like those systems aren't there to catch me though. In the past people where debating the use of ABS and if they could out oerform it but nowadays everybody pretty much agrees that if you aren't a Moto GP rider you are always better of with ABS.

    • @andrewfuller4165
      @andrewfuller4165 Рік тому

      I’m 😊

  • @jonassvensson1819
    @jonassvensson1819 6 місяців тому

    Hello, great review. Do you guys have any opinion on the Scrambler 1100? Is bigger better or just less agile and fun? Cheers

  • @geoffbroderick403
    @geoffbroderick403 Рік тому +1

    good to see a much needed up grade on previous one of the worst bikes every made terrible scrambles,tell us about service intervals ?

  • @OntarioAndrews415
    @OntarioAndrews415 Рік тому +1

    It certainly does look nice.

  • @donsmith3573
    @donsmith3573 Рік тому +2

    That’s a ridiculous price, definitely paying for the Ducati name, I’ve just sold my 18 plate scrambler 1100 I bought as ex demo 500 miles for £9500 and I thought that was expensive, but couldn’t resist its beauty. No regrets as it was a fantastic bike and sounded amazing with a pair of SC project cans, Ducati should sell this 800 with sump guard and radiator guard and quick shifter as standard for around £8500, that’s what i missed on my 1100 so eventually had to buy.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +2

      "I thought that was expensive, but couldn’t resist its beauty." That's how they sell bikes.. I was the same when I bought mine - price was less important than image!

  • @AjarnSpencer
    @AjarnSpencer Рік тому

    I have heard so many people complain saying they need to take the exhausts off to get the oil out of the oil sump, This is wrong there is an easy to access valve and oil change is easier than most people believe

  • @bctours7090
    @bctours7090 6 місяців тому

    Did you mention ABS? I was curious if you could switch it off for when you were riding on dirt roads.

  • @Hammerz0738
    @Hammerz0738 2 місяці тому

    Fantastic bike
    The design/the sound & everything
    But would you take it scrambling without a worry
    Me not
    But l would love to turn up to my Cafe or where ever with that bike ❤

  • @saphinahnakyobe4715
    @saphinahnakyobe4715 Рік тому +2

    Nice bikes I like it, if it can be olso here in Uganda 🏍️🏍️🏍️

  • @philboyes2669
    @philboyes2669 Рік тому +1

    I've got the 2020 icon and was really hoping this new one would be based on the 950 monster engine. As it is I'm not sure it's worth upgrading to the new one?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +1

      To be honest, that was my biggest fear. I like the old air-cooled desmodue engine, lumps and all. I was afraid that the Scrambler would go down the Monster route - the final S4R monsters were so far from the original 600 that it should have been another model. For me, the Scrambler is still a Scrambler...

  • @aleokyn5757
    @aleokyn5757 Рік тому

    With almost 20k usd due to tax in my country, hope Ducati can improve horsepower/torque to. 80hp maybe reasonable with the price

  • @sealcuddl3r
    @sealcuddl3r Рік тому +3

    Well done review. For my money, I think I would take Hinckley Bonneville or Speed Twin over one of these every day of the week, but I can definitely see someone feeling the complete opposite since styling is so subjective and such a major reason someone buys a bike of this type.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +2

      Funny you should mention the Speed Twin as that was one of the few bikes that could have tempted me away from my Scrambler. Such a good bike!

  • @gingerelvis
    @gingerelvis Рік тому +1

    Nice to see a no BS answer for would you upgrade from someone who owns an older model. I've got to agree at that price hike vs what you get for it I probably wouldn't either.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому

      The original model does everything I need. I don't go touring on it, I'm fortunate enough to have another bike for that, so when I just want a fun blast on B-roads, the Scram is perfect. Thanks for watching, and taking the time to comment.

  • @eduardotavarez1296
    @eduardotavarez1296 Рік тому

    Vivo en estado unidos y quiero saber si van estar disponibles aquí?

  • @alastairtheduke
    @alastairtheduke Рік тому +1

    Can you tour on it?

  • @TheMotociclist
    @TheMotociclist Місяць тому

    Is this a CF moto Heritage , double the price, rebrandit?

  • @whiterabbitt2002
    @whiterabbitt2002 Рік тому +3

    great retro motorcycle. the only thing missing is a kick starter. the added modern electronics are a plus indeed. still air cooled, a plus. light weight, a plus. the price is higher than should be, but w.e.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +2

      Not sure I'd like to kick over an 800, but then I probably don't have the knack :D

    • @mjh5437
      @mjh5437 Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial Surprisingly,engine size doesn`t make an awful lot of difference to how much grunt it tales to kickstart most bikes....I have a Norton P11 Scrambler and a Triumph Hurricane x75..both are 750cc engines and easy-peasy to kick.

    • @cascarification
      @cascarification Рік тому

      Porque ventaja que sea refrigerada por aire ? Eso no produce mucho calor ?

    • @jakelowe8583
      @jakelowe8583 Місяць тому

      @@cascarification Sólo por simplicidad, peso y estética.

  • @sambagogo777
    @sambagogo777 Рік тому +1

    Hilarious that they can get away with charging Street Triple 765 R money for such a bike!

  • @beer3029
    @beer3029 6 місяців тому

    "The wierd hipster imagery" is literally something that motorcycle journalist have created. I have never seen a hipster ride a motorcycle except for motorcycle festivals.

  • @marcusgeorge1825
    @marcusgeorge1825 Рік тому +1

    Waited until the end a the new guy said he wouldn’t upgrade, and it’s £2k more expensive with no comments that the price was a reason. Both said most of the upgrades aren’t needed, which I agree and the lack of a quickshifter is poor. Ducati tax?

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +1

      It's not the price that puts me off. I love my own Scrambler, we've done loads of new stuff together, and for me personally, the extras that the new bike offer are not enough for me to break that bond with my bike.

    • @marcusgeorge1825
      @marcusgeorge1825 Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial I get that part. However, aren’t you reviewing this impartially? Newer riders to the scramblers will possibly look for a low mileage old version based on your review. Chad tried to intervene, to no avail.

  • @rm5042
    @rm5042 Рік тому +1

    It’s all about the desert sled for me. But it’s no more

  • @HaggisPower
    @HaggisPower Рік тому

    Of course it's orange.. what would you call the bike in front of you?

  • @MrRGM10
    @MrRGM10 Рік тому +1

    Well to sum it up for the price it isnt worth it but the changes they make from the previous scrambler is definitely an upgrade. For people who does chill ride like the vespas this is for them..otherwise so many bikes better

  • @philipbre
    @philipbre 9 місяців тому

    cant say i enjoy the silver panels under the tank... black on it looks better.

  • @tubejorrit
    @tubejorrit Рік тому +2

    For that price it should have a quick shifter and cruise control

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому

      The quickshifter is not much more on top, and for the majority of UK/EU roads, I don't think cruise control is needed, but you are right in that the competition is offering more for less.

    • @tubejorrit
      @tubejorrit Рік тому +2

      @@bennettsbikesocial With ride-by-wire it's very easy for a manufacturer to add cruise control, in this price class it should be standard. And for the price, I live in the Netherlands and if I add the quick shifter, high termigoni exhaust and spoke wheels the price is above 17.000,- euros!

    • @madpekon
      @madpekon Рік тому +4

      I am from Greece and is the same. For the nightshift is 13600€, just the bike. I really like it and I think of buying it, but at the same price triumph street triple looks so much more appealing.

    • @reddpill
      @reddpill Рік тому +1

      @@madpekon The triumph street triple is twice the bike! Ducati is out to lunch with their pricing model.

    • @madpekon
      @madpekon Рік тому

      @@reddpill I couldn’t agree more. I was just comparing them based on price, wrong I know.

  • @reddpill
    @reddpill Рік тому +7

    Nice design but that’s about it. Now with an Over inflated price, still expensive service costs, extremely hot and massive vibration. No one needs riding modes on a 72 hp bike, no cruise as even an option and no quick shifter for all that money. Why anyone thinks these are premium bikes has fallen for the marketing and why people continue to purchase Ducati’s is beyond me. There are a huge amount of competitors out there that have better bikes for the money.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +5

      It's great to have choice in our buying options though right? We don't all like the same thing and we all put value on different things. People are clearly happy to pay more for looks/names, otherwise designer clothes wouldn't exist.

    • @reddpill
      @reddpill Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial Correct, however as a consumer, this is the market speaking. They're overrated, just like designer clothes and beliefs in cults.

    • @ronaldvangulden7314
      @ronaldvangulden7314 Рік тому +7

      There is no best bike only best experience's and I owned the 800 Scrambler and currently have the 1100 and after 29 years of riding and owning all sorts of motorbikes these Scramblers are in my top 3 of the most fun bikes I ever owned. Rating bikes on spec sheets and price is pretty much useless.

    • @jakelowe8583
      @jakelowe8583 Місяць тому +1

      This isn't a bike that you want to cruise far on so no cruise control isn't really a miss in my opinion. Quickshifter is only 235 euros to buy so if you want it, it won't break the bank. I own one and there isn't any massive vibrations on mine, just a slight buzz at motorway speeds but then again, it's not really a motorway bike. I will conceed that it's a bit of an expensive toy, but a fun one! Yes, it can get hot in slow moving traffic when it's above 25 degrees but not as hot as some sports bikes, so I guess that's a downside. The best is if you can afford to have 2 bikes in your garage, this and a practical do-it-all bike.

  • @Mark-RD350
    @Mark-RD350 Рік тому +1

    Who builds Ducati and were are they built?? The only Ducati for me is the 916s.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +2

      Production of the Scrambler takes place in Borgo Panigale, near Bologna, Italy. scramblerducati.com/en/news/production-of-the-new-ducati-scrambler-begins/

    • @splodge5714
      @splodge5714 Рік тому

      I thought the previous model Scrambler was made in India.

  • @splodge5714
    @splodge5714 Рік тому +1

    Premium bike...£10,000
    Is it made in Italy...or India?
    Prefer the looks of the old one.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +1

      It's made in Italy, at the Borgo Panigale plant, near Bologna. No Scramblers were ever made in India, there was a production line for the 2015 models in Thailand to help get the bike into the SE Asia Market, which helped enormously with sales.

    • @splodge5714
      @splodge5714 Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial Cheers👍

  • @neilcole3406
    @neilcole3406 5 місяців тому

    Great bike but still over priced for what it is!

  • @stefanhansen5882
    @stefanhansen5882 28 днів тому

    Why such an ugly dash on such a beautiful bike?

  • @wwfww
    @wwfww Рік тому +7

    No no no, get a xsr900, this is no Ducati as far as I’m concerned

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +5

      That seat on the new XSR900 though?

    • @wwfww
      @wwfww Рік тому

      @@bennettsbikesocial well i like it a lot but I understand why some people might not

    • @da72ma
      @da72ma Рік тому +1

      Scrambler is a beginner bike too without being a beginners bike… you better have a few years on a bike before you’d get a XSR900… however I don’t like the look… I did see an aftermarket kit where the XSR900 looked like the RZ/RD500 and the XSR700 like the RZ/RD350… I was tempted looking really back to the 80s… but Yamaha doesn’t do this stock… 😢

    • @wwfww
      @wwfww Рік тому

      @@da72ma that‘s unfortunate really… and those platforms look like proper bikes, i was looking at a scrambler the other day parked outside the coffee shop and it is so tiny it looks like a grom almost! Such bad styling on the thing

  • @diyeveryday67
    @diyeveryday67 Рік тому +3

    Just not interested.

    • @bennettsbikesocial
      @bennettsbikesocial  Рік тому +3

      We've got loads of other content, hopefully something there with take your interest :)

  • @Stickybutton
    @Stickybutton Рік тому

    Ugly now

  • @vigilant.
    @vigilant. Рік тому +2

    It's only for Ducati Fanboy otherwise there are so many option available in market with extra features and with lower MRP🫵🤧