Bill Humble (Hawker test pilot) said, when comparing The Tempest to The Sea Fury, "You could take The Tempest to the vicars tea party. The Sea Fury would be getting its nickers off on the first night." Quite an accolade I think. 😁
A very impressive interview young fellow and how nice of Paul to give of his time. I was there at Scone and his aerial display was superb! Loved his response to How does it glide? “Don’t know and don’t want to find out!” 😅👍😎
Lovely aeroplane but as the pilot mentioned should be ‘Centaurus powered” , So what would you call what was a sea fury without the engine it was designed with by Sydney Camm. ? Nice to see them flying but hopefully you get another and use it with the Centaurus to show us what they once were, even with ‘only’ 2500hp with the Bristol engine the Navy pilots managed to shoot down a mig 15 jet . Thank you for troubling to explaining the engine swap. 8est of luck.
I seen a couple of these at Reno in 2015 and I was floored at how much faster it was than the Mustangs. They were lapping the Ponies by the fourth lap it seemed. It was very impressive to see how slow the Sea Fury was once they were up against planes like Rare Bear, Voodoo, Strega lol.....
I think I am correct in saying Camm had a Centaurus engined version in the Tempest development 1941-2 and it was proven the fastest of the lot which became the Tempest 2 .It then led to the Fury, but the Tempest 2 was baulked by two things, lack of manufacturing capacity as the Sabre Tempest was then in full production (you go with what you’ve got ?) especially with the FW190 scare . Perversely it was Armin Fabers gifted FW 190 that shifted the blimpish view that held up Camms work with the Centaurus (along with the departure from Bristols of Roy Fedden the driving force behind the Bristol Radials ) it being abundantly clear that the Focke Wulf was awesomely fast and had a Radial motor BMW 801. The Merlin Mustang again came about solely by the perseverance of Ronny Harker , RR’s test pilot insisting it was worthwhile to the bosses who were quite up thier necks in supplying Merlin’s in ever greater numbers and keeping up a massive development schedule. Some good reading on this; ‘Fedden” by Bill Gunston. ”From the wings” by Ronnie Harker, “The great Horsepower race “ by Calum Douglas, and “Tempests Over Europe “ by R Beaumont.
I don’t think so. You can see he talks at the end of the video how he purchased it in the United States recently, put in the container and brought it back here to Australia. Thanks for watching my video.
P-51 runs off and leaves the Sea Fury above 25,000 feet, which mattered when they were front line equipment. It’s kind of academic now. There’s a reason many Sea Furies are Wright powered. More parts available. More props too. Nice video.
Corsair first to do 400 mph in level flight….way before Sea Fury….just like F8F….just as fast…but too late….and then came the jets…which were over 100 knots faster…props could never keep up….😊.
I believe that honor belonged to the prototype P-38 flown by Lt. Ben Kelsey on the cross country flight to New York from the LA area when ATC wouldn't clear it to land because they hadn't been informed that it was coming in and they, foolishly, had other traffic in the pattern. Result: ran out of fuel on go around and wrote off aircraft due to wheels up, off field excursion onto golf course.
The Corsair was good in the Pacific theatre with lower altitude dogfighting but in Europe where fighting at high altitudes was more common it was less successful. Captain Eric Winkle, with experience in the largest number of types and the first to land a jet on a carrier as well as the world record for the most carrier landings stated the Sea Fury and Bearcat were the two best prop fighters he experience.
Bit of exaggeration during the interview, the R-3350 at least the type fitted to the Sea Furies are rated at 2,800hp. Some later 3350's made around 3,700hp in different applications but were a lot less reliable.
Thanks Chuck. I’ve got plenty more pilot interviews on my UA-cam channel. Got a ‘Fire Boss’ interview coming out next week. $6 million for fighting aircraft.
Lots of WW2 fighters dominated the mustang. The mustang had endurance and is the chosen propaganda queen. Without a doubt, aviations most over rated airplane of all time. Glad to see something other than (and better than) a mustang
My thoughts exactly. The mustang is a good plane, but is very over-rated. It's fame is largely that it came out at just the right time in early 44, when the back was arrested broken on the enemy Air Forces. The war could have been easily won without it in both theaters with other planes. Late war planes like: P47-N, Tempest, F4U-4 not to mention the Fury were superior.
Hate to say it but it isn't a Sea Fury but a Hawker Fury (AKA Baghdad Fury) of Iraqi Air Force. Also it was rebuilt to race at Reno, hence why the Cyclone was fitted, main reason is easier to maintain and better to tune than a Centaurus. Also VH-SHF is another Iraqi Fury that is still airworthy in Australia, however has not flown for a number of years to illegal/criminal activity and being seized by Police.
Mate these are entertaining videos from a young fella out there having a go. Yep sure well done you know some facts. The plane is a representation of a RAN Sea Fury that is currently flying for the public to appreciate. If the other you mention is out of annual then it isn’t airworthy. So thus making this one the only flying in Australia. Enjoy the videos mate they are for entertainment.
@@zooomdelivery8460Where did I have a dig at the kid? A simple Google search brings up the history of this aircraft and in way more detail. Sure it represents a RAN Sea Fury but it never flew with the RAN, ex Iraqi Air Force to be correct as I stated and both are quite different. Also there are quite a number of warbirds in Australia that are airworthy but rarely fly in the public eye, the most famous one is the RAAF Sabre which has an ejection seat issue.
He flies both Mustang and the Sea Fury. You can hear him saying in the video that it is a push to get the Mustang to 300 knots, but he can get the Sea Fury to 400 knots.
If you look at any original source material from North American and Hawker you will definitely find that the Fury is not 100 kts. faster under any circumstances. I think what the pilot means is that he feels more comfortable pushing the Fury to higher power settings than the Mustang without risk of over stressing the engine. The cost of rebuilding one these engines is enormous and they are definitely not run as hard today compared to wartime.
While the absolute top speed may not have changed much due to the 3350, with likely more than a thousand additional horsepower, I can see that making a significant improvement to cruise.
Since you are pushing the very Britishness of the Sea Fury, WHY have you converted it to a Wright R-3350 from the Bristol Centaurs engine? That is a bastardization of a classic airframe and essentially telling a lie about what the aircraft is.
He does lots of air shows and needs to be able to get it in the air quickly. You’ll see at the end of the video, he talks about the amount of work to get the aircraft in the air when you decide to fly it, which can take up to half a day. Thanks for watching my video.
Faster than a Mustang? Sorry kid but Big Whoop. The Mustang was designed to escort slow rumbling B-17's from England to Germany & back. It was designed for range & endurance, not necessarily speed. Carrier-based Sea Furies were designed to be fast, short-range interceptors to protect a carrier strike group. Sure, it might do 400 knots, but for how long?
BS! The Nustang is as fastor faster than the Sea Fury and the Sea Fury ddid not fight in WWII!! Andd the original engine, a sleeve valve nightmare, isn't used in any Sea Fury today! It has an American radial engine!
What a beast! Great interview and a great channel. Keep up the good work.
It certainly is a beast! Thanks for watching my channel, glad you enjoyed it. New interview coming out tomorrow about the ‘Fire Boss’ Aircraft.
Saw a Seafury hang on its prop, hovering, at a Namao Airshow, north of Edmonton Alberta, in the early eighties.
Good interview young fella, keep up the good work as the industry needs you👍
Thank you Mark! Glad you enjoyed my video. More to come just like that one.
Bill Humble (Hawker test pilot) said, when comparing The Tempest to The Sea Fury, "You could take The Tempest to the vicars tea party. The Sea Fury would be getting its nickers off on the first night." Quite an accolade I think. 😁
400 knots, 460 mph, 740 kmph
That aircraft is an absolute beast. Glad to se it flying.
A very impressive interview young fellow and how nice of Paul to give of his time. I was there at Scone and his aerial display was superb! Loved his response to How does it glide? “Don’t know and don’t want to find out!” 😅👍😎
Lovely aeroplane but as the pilot mentioned should be ‘Centaurus powered” , So what would you call what was a sea fury without the engine it was designed with by Sydney Camm. ? Nice to see them flying but hopefully you get another and use it with the Centaurus to show us what they once were, even with ‘only’ 2500hp with the Bristol engine the Navy pilots managed to shoot down a mig 15 jet . Thank you for troubling to explaining the engine swap. 8est of luck.
What would I call a Sea Fury without the engine it was designed to be flown with? A bastardization of an air racer.
Paul is the most humblest aerobatic pilot in Aus great bloke and great airplane
Awesome article again. very informative and well made.
Another quality entertaining video.
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Great interview and video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Plenty more like that on my UA-cam channel if you have the time. Mostly aircraft interviews.
I seen a couple of these at Reno in 2015 and I was floored at how much faster it was than the Mustangs. They were lapping the Ponies by the fourth lap it seemed. It was very impressive to see how slow the Sea Fury was once they were up against planes like Rare Bear, Voodoo, Strega lol.....
Nice looking plane.
This one likely has a Pratt and Whitney R-4360 engine swap. The original Bristol had 5 prop blades and rotated in the opposite direction.
He does mention that at the end of the video, I think you are referring to the Centaurus engine. Thanks for watching my video.
its the 3350
No. It does NOT have a P&W R-4360 engine. That is clearly a Wright R-3350. Did your other foot taste better when you switched them in your mouth? 😉
I understand the Centaurus was 20 percent more efficient in fuel consumption in comparison to the P&W substitutes.
Mustangs are faster than 300 kts . A P47 reaches 446 mph . What was the range on the Sea Fury?
Okay, so when was the Sea Fury designed and when was the Merlin Mustang designed?
I believe it was about the same time frame but the Merlin Mustang was in service almost two years sooner, IIRC.
I think I am correct in saying Camm had a Centaurus engined version in the Tempest development 1941-2 and it was proven the fastest of the lot which became the Tempest 2 .It then led to the Fury, but the Tempest 2 was baulked by two things, lack of manufacturing capacity as the Sabre Tempest was then in full production (you go with what you’ve got ?) especially with the FW190 scare . Perversely it was Armin Fabers gifted FW 190 that shifted the blimpish view that held up Camms work with the Centaurus (along with the departure from Bristols of Roy Fedden the driving force behind the Bristol Radials ) it being abundantly clear that the Focke Wulf was awesomely fast and had a Radial motor BMW 801.
The Merlin Mustang again came about solely by the perseverance of Ronny Harker , RR’s test pilot insisting it was worthwhile to the bosses who were quite up thier necks in supplying Merlin’s in ever greater numbers and keeping up a massive development schedule.
Some good reading on this; ‘Fedden” by Bill Gunston. ”From the wings” by Ronnie Harker, “The great Horsepower race “ by Calum Douglas, and “Tempests Over Europe “ by R Beaumont.
Hawker sute did build some fine looking birds of prey ❤
Is that the one Robbie Booth used to fly in NZ?
I don’t think so. You can see he talks at the end of the video how he purchased it in the United States recently, put in the container and brought it back here to Australia. Thanks for watching my video.
common paul do the right thing you know you want to
In mph…. Hawker Fury X 460, P-51D 437…. That’s 23 mph faster. Plus post war P-51H was 487.
P-51 runs off and leaves the Sea Fury above 25,000 feet, which mattered when they were front line equipment. It’s kind of academic now. There’s a reason many Sea Furies are Wright powered. More parts available. More props too. Nice video.
so this is a PW2800 powered Sea Fury?
Hi Kenny… if you watch the video, towards the end, he tells you what type of motor it is. 3350 Piston. Thanks for watching.
No. It is the 3350.
What is airspade?
400kn or 460mph.
Not a Sea Fury with a R2800. Has to have a Centurus.
Corsair first to do 400 mph in level flight….way before Sea Fury….just like F8F….just as fast…but too late….and then came the jets…which were over 100 knots faster…props could never keep up….😊.
No, the Corsair was not 1st.
I believe that honor belonged to the prototype P-38 flown by Lt. Ben Kelsey on the cross country flight to New York from the LA area when ATC wouldn't clear it to land because they hadn't been informed that it was coming in and they, foolishly, had other traffic in the pattern. Result: ran out of fuel on go around and wrote off aircraft due to wheels up, off field excursion onto golf course.
The Corsair was good in the Pacific theatre with lower altitude dogfighting but in Europe where fighting at high altitudes was more common it was less successful.
Captain Eric Winkle, with experience in the largest number of types and the first to land a jet on a carrier as well as the world record for the most carrier landings stated the Sea Fury and Bearcat were the two best prop fighters he experience.
Bit of exaggeration during the interview, the R-3350 at least the type fitted to the Sea Furies are rated at 2,800hp. Some later 3350's made around 3,700hp in different applications but were a lot less reliable.
400knts prolly get 10 or 20 more even out of a Tempest II (aka Sea Fury) .. but this has a 4 blade prop when they had a 5 bladed one.
Kids got a knack for interviewing...
Thanks Chuck. I’ve got plenty more pilot interviews on my UA-cam channel. Got a ‘Fire Boss’ interview coming out next week. $6 million for fighting aircraft.
You forgot about the Bearcat
A couple of people have mentioned the Bearcat, we might have to track one of those Aircraft down and get an interview. Thanks for watching.
Lots of WW2 fighters dominated the mustang. The mustang had endurance and is the chosen propaganda queen. Without a doubt, aviations most over rated airplane of all time. Glad to see something other than (and better than) a mustang
My thoughts exactly. The mustang is a good plane, but is very over-rated. It's fame is largely that it came out at just the right time in early 44, when the back was arrested broken on the enemy Air Forces. The war could have been easily won without it in both theaters with other planes.
Late war planes like: P47-N, Tempest, F4U-4 not to mention the Fury were superior.
Well done sir and thank you
Thanks Martin. Glad you enjoyed it. The Sea Fury is certainly fast for a piston engine! Super fast.
Hate to say it but it isn't a Sea Fury but a Hawker Fury (AKA Baghdad Fury) of Iraqi Air Force. Also it was rebuilt to race at Reno, hence why the Cyclone was fitted, main reason is easier to maintain and better to tune than a Centaurus. Also VH-SHF is another Iraqi Fury that is still airworthy in Australia, however has not flown for a number of years to illegal/criminal activity and being seized by Police.
Mate these are entertaining videos from a young fella out there having a go. Yep sure well done you know some facts. The plane is a representation of a RAN Sea Fury that is currently flying for the public to appreciate. If the other you mention is out of annual then it isn’t airworthy. So thus making this one the only flying in Australia. Enjoy the videos mate they are for entertainment.
@@zooomdelivery8460Where did I have a dig at the kid? A simple Google search brings up the history of this aircraft and in way more detail. Sure it represents a RAN Sea Fury but it never flew with the RAN, ex Iraqi Air Force to be correct as I stated and both are quite different. Also there are quite a number of warbirds in Australia that are airworthy but rarely fly in the public eye, the most famous one is the RAAF Sabre which has an ejection seat issue.
Chevy powered!!!
The Sea Fury was a 5 year newer aircraft design than the P-51, it should be faster. The Sea Fury's real contemporaries were JETS.
Wow 100 knots faster. They probably dominated at Reno.
this one was SAWBONES
They didn't. P51s and Bearcats won 95% of the races.
As a fighter aircraft how does it compare with range, armament capability, turn radius, max altitude, etc. or is it only good for running away?
100knts faster than a Mustang? I don't think so Tim.
He flies both Mustang and the Sea Fury. You can hear him saying in the video that it is a push to get the Mustang to 300 knots, but he can get the Sea Fury to 400 knots.
If you look at any original source material from North American and Hawker you will definitely find that the Fury is not 100 kts. faster under any circumstances. I think what the pilot means is that he feels more comfortable pushing the Fury to higher power settings than the Mustang without risk of over stressing the engine. The cost of rebuilding one these engines is enormous and they are definitely not run as hard today compared to wartime.
It’s about 500 knts cooler though
While the absolute top speed may not have changed much due to the 3350, with likely more than a thousand additional horsepower, I can see that making a significant improvement to cruise.
I don't believe that the Wright powerplant is anywhere near 1000 HP stronger than the Bristol.
If it's not powered by CENTAURUS , then it's not a true authentic Fury .
The abbreviation for "knots" is kn, NOT Knts,
Since you are pushing the very Britishness of the Sea Fury, WHY have you converted it to a Wright R-3350 from the Bristol Centaurs engine? That is a bastardization of a classic airframe and essentially telling a lie about what the aircraft is.
He does lots of air shows and needs to be able to get it in the air quickly. You’ll see at the end of the video, he talks about the amount of work to get the aircraft in the air when you decide to fly it, which can take up to half a day. Thanks for watching my video.
But not faster than a F8F, F7F, and a P47N and Maybe the P51H
Faster than a Mustang? Sorry kid but Big Whoop. The Mustang was designed to escort slow rumbling B-17's from England to Germany & back. It was designed for range & endurance, not necessarily speed. Carrier-based Sea Furies were designed to be fast, short-range interceptors to protect a carrier strike group. Sure, it might do 400 knots, but for how long?
BS! The Nustang is as fastor faster than the Sea Fury and the Sea Fury ddid not fight in WWII!! Andd the original engine, a sleeve valve nightmare, isn't used in any Sea Fury today! It has an American radial engine!