This is the STRONGEST conference you will ever see
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Oh yeah. If Ja wouldn't get injured it would be even stronger. Basketball is at all time great. Good times.
@@Max-kw2hpExactly, that’s what I’ve noticed too. Would be 12 teams in one conference with records .500 and over😭😭
@@Max-kw2hpThe East has the advantage of the better 1 seed, but that’s literally it. The West has better records than the East 2-15. That is absolutely diabolical😭 and like Andy said the East isn’t that bad tbh. Just shows how good the West is
Hey Brodie change the background music
Jesus loves you and may God bless you ..
It was kinda funny when he said “you can tell they’re hungry” and a Zion clip was playing 😂😂
Ikr he’s hungry all right… just in the wrong way
twas intentional 😂😂
The fat jokes were never funny
2010 west was tough but this is crazy hard conference now. The talent pool is so much more now, props to Kobe for winning that year.
@@chrisuncleahmad lol but the the top seeded Thunder and Wolves this year are so scary huh lol
@@777DonMakaveli777yes
I was a Rocket fan at that time. Rocket was without T Mac and Yao got injured halfway into the serious, yet they still push Laker into game 7. It was tough.
Great vid, but could you consider keeping the old background music. Just goes with the vids better
2010 was Absolutely tough
The Kobe Pau Gasol era in Los Angeles
The young and rising OKC Thunder
The lasting of the Phoenix suns Steve Nash Amare Stoudemire era
No it wasn’t
The West was an LA cakewalk. At no point did anyone ever truly take those non Laker team seriously
@@chrisuncleahmadif artest did not make the game winner in game 5 I think suns has a chance for the lakers
Yhea don't forget about the spurs fool they were the team GSG Timmy D and Kobe era the best
The 2nd prime of lbj
and?
I've been watching the NBA for 33 years. I've never seen a conference this dominant. The scary thing is that Memphis wasn't even a factor due to injuries and Ja Morrant's suspension. I don't think that the balance of power is going to change much next year either. The Warriors might break up during the off season but everyone else looks like they're going to run it back. If the Jazz move Lauri Markennen, and he goes to a team in the west, that could also shake things up. Markennen to the Thunder for some of their draft assets could be huge. He could go to San Antonio or Houston and now those teams are fighting to get into the playoffs. Someone is going to want to go to the Spurs in the off season. Wembanyama is Kevin Durant performing a fusion with Rudy Gobert.
As a Timberwolves fan i'd say this season Nickiel Alexander-Walker has been our secret weapon defender.
he's a bit older than Jaden, has a calmer head, and is a lockdown defender who played all 82 games this year. McDaniels is a great defender, but after four years his offense has yet to improve. NAW has been a consistent scorer since the Jazz traded him in 2023
Such a great story. I can only imagine the jazz, blazers and Pelicans banging their heads against the walls for trading him away
Sometimes you just need a fresh start in the right organization. It also helps Wolves HC Chris Finch was an asst coach when NAW was in NOLA. He saw the diamond in the rough @@maartenvz
If the stars ever align, Mark Daigneault has a chance to be an all-time great NBA coach.
I could argue that the 2013-14 western conference was a really competitive conference. The 9 seed, the phoenix suns, were 14 wins above .500 and missed the playoffs. Also, the 1-8, 2-7, and 3-6 matchups in the first round all went to 7 games.
One thing not mentioned by Andy Hoops: the West generally has better *team owners,* and everyone knows teams can’t overcome bad ownership.
_Let’s think of it this way:_ Do you think the conference with Joe Tsai, James Dolan and Jerry Reinsdorf is better than the conference with Mark Cuban, Joe Lacob, and Stan Kronke?
The best owners are the ones you shouldn't even know the names of. Just sign the checks and let your front office do what you put them in place to do
Mark Cuban? After the 11 championship the mavs didn't win another playoff series for 10 years.
Stan kronke a good team owner? Never thought I'd see the day that statement was said
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@@maartenvz Cuban is a good owner. The Mavericks were pretty bad before he got there.
This year's western conference is stupidly strong.
Just imagine if either Kobe or Duncan played in the East. We probably would've had Kobe vs Duncan almost every year in 2000's
From 2000-2010 Kobe was in 7 finals & won 5 which is why Kobe is highly underrated because the media won't tell you EVERYTHING Kobe did in his career
It was bad enough we were stuck with them in every Finals for a generation save for 2006
The 2000s West was the LA/San Antonio Invitational. Those teams cakewalked year after year in the Mild Mild West
@@chrisuncleahmad Lol, so what was the Least Conference up to?
2003 west should be at the top!
spurs 60 duncan, parker, jinobli, bowen, robinson
kings 59 webber, peja, bibby, christie, divac
mavs 60 dirk, nash, finley, van exel
wolves 51 garnet, czerbiak
lakers 50 shaq, kobe
blazers 50 wallace, randolph, wells
jazz 47 kirilenko, harpring
suns 44 marbury, stoudemire, marion
No
Great video Andy!!! Let’s get this playoffs underway!!!
This is the only time where the 1st to 3rd seed in Western conference would not want to face the 6th to 8th if Warriors won the 8th seed lmao. No one wants to face Suns, Warriors, and Lakers in the first round. Although, a healthy Pelicans team is still a great matchup as well against OKC
Why didn't they face 1st and 2nd seeds? Because those 7th and 8th seeds were actually better teams.
Nuggets faced the 8th seeded Wolves because they're seeded first, duh. That's common sense, and if you use that as a detrimental point you should get off the internet and go to school.
LAL and Miami aren't your typical 7th and 8th seeds with proven (super)stars in their team. It's not like they're the mid-2000s Wizards who are lower seeds of the LEastern Conference - those kinds of teams are the ones who are rightfully pushovers. If anything, it's the other top seeds who aren't the typical ones - the Grizzlies and Kings did lose in the first round despite being 2nd and 3rd in the West.
Only time the East was actually good was from the 1970s-1990s. Ever since 2000, the Eastern conference deteriorated
The east was still trash in Jordan’s era yu tryna give him props
@@Jayfromthe202 Blud it was significantly better than Lebron’s East stfu
@@seagull2175Yeah Plumbers era we done with the 90s
Most of the players Andy mentioned moving to the west are originally drafted by the west. Durant, Harden, Kawhi. If we look at the overall No. 1 picks, the East won most of the lotteries since 2000. And of course it produced, Kwame Brown, Andrea Bargnani, Markelle Fultz, Anthony Bennet. And then good but injury prone Derrick Rose, Andrew Bogut, John Wall. Plus good players but not very motivated like Ben Simmons and Andrew Wiggins. Almost every draft, the East always won the top 3 picks but still failed.
Lebron is the only one that made it out damn near
@@jimbobfisher8904 Do you know during the 2003 draft (Lebron draft), the 1st 10 picks, 8 of them were the Eastern team and 2 by the West. That was among the strongest draft ever and East supposed to much better.
And 1996 draft (Kobe draft), East won the top 4 picks in the draft which those picks could turn to be Kobe, Nash, or Peja and make the east stronger.
Its honestly unfair to place Markelle Fultz on the same tier as those bust mentioned, cuz unlike them, he was dealing with injuries.
Celtics now or never. Giannis butler embiid hobbled. Denver has most brutal path in nba history.
honestly if i was an nba player and my goal was to win championships, id play in in the east
Easily
The west has been better then the East since the 2000's imagine if LeBron played in the west most of his career
If he plays in the west he automatically gets a better team then those shitty cavs teams in the 2000s and if he were in the west in the 2010s he'd still dominate
@@VincentVincent_89 no, he would have to play the Spurs, Lakers, warriors, thunder, & rockets which would be a lot
@@VincentVincent_89When he had either the best or second best team with the Heat and Cavs, he still lost most his finals.
You're insane if you think he'd have as much when he'd have to face teams he lost against in the finals in the first and second round in the West.
Like no hate to Lebron, but saying it wouldnt have mattered is WILD when he year in year out didnt just lose vs the best Western team, but was lucky to miss the majority of the West in a playoff series.
The same Houston Rockets who barely lost to the Warriors with KD, never played the Cavs who were getting swept because they actually had to face them before the finals. The Spurs with Kawhi same story.
@@Dotsetc if lebron was so scared of the west why did he join a shitty lakers team with young talent that missed the playoffs in the same year the KD warriors won the chip? He was 34 years old and wasn't scared and won a chip in the west with the best record as well. Im guessing you're pissed lebron is still a top 8 player
@@VincentVincent_89 wydm he join the Lakers to do Hollywood horribly, and the. What happened he traded away all the young Lakers talent for AD who won the chip for us
In the 2000s? The West was the Lakers/Spurs Invitational for a decade save for a blip in 06
2008 ended up yet another Lakers/Spurs rerun. That 50 win 8 seed Denver team was a fraud
2010? At no point that entire season did anyone think LA would get toppled
The West for a generation was basically a bunch of paper tigers that LA/San Antonio cakewalked through
Those two seasons were WEAK conferences where LA basically had it on cruise control
Lol, and they were still way better than anyone in the Least Conference.
background music meeses up the video plz change it
Probably since the 19-20 season the conferences has been balanced bc there was no dominate team that won the chip back to back bc the players have moved around a lot like Harden from the rocket to the nets to the 76ers to now the Clips
22 and 23 the east even won more games than the west
In the late 90's- throughout the 2000's the western conference always been dominant
The late 90s 2000s West was…. A two team invitational save for 2006
LA/San Antonio every year but one. Nothing but boring reruns no matter how allegedly dominant the West was
@@chrisuncleahmad I'm a Lakers fan and the Kings got robbed in 2002. Boring though, I wouldn't call it boring at all. Those teams played high level basketball. Some of the best playoff series that I've ever seen were the lead up to the finals. Minnesota was on fire one year and took the Lakers to their limits. The Blazers and Lakers were always a good match to watch. The Spurs and Lakers were an epic battle in the playoffs. The Kings were always a threat, and were the best team in the west in 2002. When the Lakers went 4-1 against Philly in the finals, that was an all out slugfest. Those games were the toughest finals games that the Lakers ever played during their championship years. I'm not even mentioning the Suns and Mavs who were also fun teams to watch.
I get it if you don't like those teams, but boring.....yeah it wasn't boring to watch. Let's face it. Most of the teams in the east have bad management. Nobody wanted Kristaps Porzingas. He's been one of the best bigs in the league, and Boston got him for cheap. Just a smart trade. Something that teams like Philly and Brooklyn failed to do repeatedly with all of their assets.
"They got KD, but we got Jaden Mcdaniels" 8:24
The west has significantly been the better conference for a while now. With the talent like KD, Steph, LeBron, Jokic, and other talented players. Seeing the emergence of OKC and Minnesota this year has been great to see. With SGA leading the way, the thunder have been the most consistent team this year. On the other hand it’s been the stellar play of Anthony Edwards and the T Wolves defense that has gotten the wolves where they are.
@@chrisuncleahmad You are a weird hater. Lol.
The post season always EXPOSES team that were just racking up wins in the regular season........ watch & see 👀👁️!!
That’s horrible logic.
What do you even mean? How does a team "rack up wins"? Please give an example
you are not the guy who should be talking. wtf is racking up wins? that's solely the purpose of the regular seaon, "TO WIN" as much games possible to have a homecourt advantage in the playoffs
@@Disxreet How, it has been teams that have won a bunch of games that u know aren't going to win the championship!!
@@maartenvz So you've NEVER seen a team win in the regular season but fall short in the post season 🤨🤔??
That Lebron/JJ clip is funny
You know Lebron doesn't give a shit about Mark D.
Its not surprising because all the good players want to live in warmer climates as opposed to snowy east coast😅
whats with the background music andy? louder than the commentary at times
The quality of talent is even more than the 2000’s, add most of the talent is in small markets, and stories/ career lighting is gonna be altered. Really something.
Anyone think jordans bulls still win 6 rings in this era ?
Could The Warriors of the 2010s win in the 90s? Could the 80s Celtics win in the 2020s? These are all pointless questions to ask.
No shot
@@jacobway468 i don’t think so either.
@@richborn6700 i respect your opinion but gon’ somewhere else with that shit .
it's absolutely true and i'll prove why with an example for the Pelicans. a few weeks back, they were the 4th seed for a day, playing really well. then, they started losing a little bit and went i'd say neutral for the rest of the season. they finished as the 7th seed and were very close to missing the playoffs completely. a 49 win team missing the playoffs is unheard of. that would get them the 3 seed in the East. that's how crazy the west is this season.
The play-in is one of the greatest things to happen
Agreed, and I hated the idea when its 1st came out.
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This video is peak
2014 western conference
@@chrisuncleahmad the first round games went to 7
If this year is tough then wait until next year...3 teams looking outside which have a strong chance of making at least the play in next year are the grizzlies, rockets and spurs
The background music is crazyy lmaoo
I was hoping someone would realise, the old one is much better
@@axtro800 sooo much better I agree
the NBA should balance this out, maybe instead of Eastern and Western conference playoffs the teams that would get into the playoffs should be on the top 16
1 vs 16 2 vs 15 and so on, and the ties should be determined by quotient system to make every NBA game more competitive since every points matter at the end.
The play-in tournament is a bit ridiculous since if you work your asses to be atleast top 7 or 8 it's not enough because that ridiculous play in tournament
I agree that most of the Western Conference teams have been stronger,not just this and last season,but majority of the previous seasons due to their respective stronger squads with enough depths among themselves which the some of the respective Eastern Conference teams are slightly lacked in but I hope they would improve and show their extra strengths when it matters the most,good friends!!!👍🏾
One thing I'm really surprised you didn't bring up is the Play-in Tournament (you mentioned it during the video, but not as a reason as to why the records are different)
Before the Play-in Tournament was a thing, if you noticed that it wasn't likely for your team to reach the 8th Seed, your team would immediately just start tanking to get higher draft pick odds. You mentioned at the end of the video that the Rockets at 41-41 is the highest 11th Seed in NBA History, and they actually had a chance to make the Play-offs in the last 2 weeks of the season... Yeah, that didn't exist before, lol. 11th Seed teams have a chance to make the Play-offs by pushing for the 10th Spot, and for the entirety of NBA History before the Play-ins, they didn't - it's literally as simple as that, lol.
I'm 27, so don't call me an old-head; I just hate how everyone in the modern sports media tries to make it sound like everything is better & stronger today, and everyone in the past was weaker. It's just not the case. Rules change, incentives changes, the money's changed - everything is DIFFERENT now - but different doesn't always mean better, and the numbers can be misleading.
Andy plz go back to the normal background music😭
start 2:18
lakers should have gotten mcdaniels instead of vando in the dlo trade. better offense, younger. same defensive effort.
Lakers with Shaq & Kobe fully healthy were unbeatable! Only team’s challenging them during those times were the Spurs, Jazz, Mavs and T-Wolves !
Pistons.
portland took them to 7 games and almost won. sacremento took them to 7 games and did win.
@@JS-xu1so yup forgot about them lol that was around 1999-2003 era
46-36 is not 10 games above .500, it's 5
😂 casual
I’d say this is the best West in my lifetime (around since 2001)
_As impressive as the Thunder record is, they also feel like one of the weakest 1 seeds ever._
What’s 7:00 about ?
the needs to get rid of confrences & do the best 16 teams
I agree imagine the upsets . A lot of players have the same path to the finals each year bc of conference match ups if it was best 16 teams we would get playoff series we have never seen before and that would be super interesting 😮
@@chrisuncleahmad nah it need league playoffs not conference playoffs
@@Maxjuliann true that plus the best/healthiest team would truly get to the finals
Can't do that cause the conference split is for calendar and traveling.
@@alarydavidnin yeah they make it every two days and usually they should travel the night after the game to the next location so they have time to rest and establish themselves ready for a game. Please sit in the finals all the time so they can definitely do it the whole playoffs.
And it's so crazy that whole League and so called-self proclaimed analysts overlook Aaron Gordon and MPJ. That's crazy!
the play in tournament allows for the west to be stronger than it already is
Harden and Kd already played most of their careers in the West, before 2019 the west was already stacked w HOFers and Mvps. The east had Bron
If Julius Randle wasn’t hurt then The Knicks would have a record identical to OKC. And the same could be said for Donnavan Mitchell and Embid
Westeren Conference is the wild west .
To give an idea from Andy's opinion about the eastern conference .
It doesnt looked stronger than the west , since the bottom seeded teams just wanted to tank to get the jackpot lottery.
Jaden is a way better deffender than OG boys
2013-2015 Western conference was better imo no play in u shouldn't need extra chances to make playoffs 82 games should be enough
I disagree on this being the Best Conference Playoffs in the West. Pelicans suck. Lakers will lose in 5 or less & Suns Wolves will go 5 or 6. Only 1 that is a great Playoffs game is Mavs vs Clippers
The East is so funny 😭 the Hawks were 10 games under .500 and were competing for a playoff spot
Oddly more weirder , my comments never got a love from andy
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The West is simply loaded with talents which is why they have been a superior conference for a long time even though the East has been showing signs of getting better in recent years.
Andy never fails to say some dumb shit
The thing with this playoffs I feel like, is that ALL teams could make the finals in the west:
The Nuggets are the favourite
OKC has the best record
The Wolves are the best Defensive team
If the Clippers are healthy and beat the Mavs, their talent is crazy and has been on a crazy run since Harden
The Mavs have arguably the best duo, and potentially the MVP
A healthy Suns...KD, Book and Beal? 140PPG
The Lakers have dominated. The king and Davis are fully healthy, they could beat anyone
If Zion is back, they dominate the Thunder on the glass.
This is too stacked. If the Knicks are in the West, they might not make the playoffs.
Nerf the west
Edit: The leauge should add more teams.
@@chrisuncleahmad Watch the nuggets lose on the first round.
@@kaisenyang3962 lol negative bro if LA isn't beating Denver
Mostly facts, only 2 teams can't PHX (too poor defensively), and NO (too inexperienced) and maybe LA caught a bad matchup.
@@SmooveTV718 If you think about it, LA's biggest problem is their health. With the two day break.........Denver in 7
Rockets would have been in the playing this year if they were in the east
Twolves and Pelicans should be in the East
If anyone takes the SNHU degree and gets a job they're happy with i will buy you anything
There shouldnt be divisions in the NBA anymore.
Whish gives even worse shame on self proclaimed MVP Joel.
Still WEST STACKED
There was a 3-way tire for the 1 seed bro. It would be more astonishing if they did it like the 67 spurs team or 2012 okc. Not relying on other teama
Spurs giveh other conf teams more wins 12: wins
Strongest? No, not even close. You can argue that's it's the most consistent from like the 1 seed to the 10th but there's no world beaters beyond Denver. There's no Shaq and Kobe Lakers or the Duncan led Spurs and the Warriors are on the downslide. You might get a tougher 1st round matchup than you normally would see but that doesn't make it the strongest.
2000’s Lakers, Kings, Spurs, Mavericks, Suns would beat every one of these west teams. Other Denver maybe. The NBA is weak right now. There’s no true dominant team relative to some of the truly great teams we have seen in the past.
I wouldnt be surprised if the change the line up of each conference. Travel isnt as big of a deal now days. Even do something like soccer does. The bestbteams deserve to be in the playoffs. Not the cheating lebum btw.
Definitely not the strongest you’ll see. Look back in history you used to have 50 win teams as 8 seeds. The we believe warriors didn’t even make the playoffs the next year with 46 wins
The Eastern Conference hasn’t dominated the NBA since the 1998 Chicago Bulls ended their dynasty of the 1990’s !
Sports management is the equivalent of a sociology/liberal arts degree....useless.
1st
all props to OKC!!! Unfortunatelly their youth will cost them in Playoffs. Because of lacking of experience.
Wait till the Celtics take care the business
Who here after the wolves swept the suns and are about to sweep the nuggets
Jokic is already my goat but if he can make it out the West then go on to beat that ridiculous Celtics team. He probably enters the top 10 all time
@@chrisuncleahmad not his fault. He did face the 3 best defenders at his position and made them all look like kids
@@chrisuncleahmad cause those "top 3" seeds loss to the lower seeds that they just beat. It's not nuggets fault those top seeded team crumble in the playoffs its kinda disrespectful to discredit "play-in" teams that made the conference finals last year.
West have LEgoat thats all u needa know
You're just wrong, Andy. This era of the NBA is soft and weak compared to anything early 2010's and back. You get carried away too easily by today's overinflated stats. Back in the day, 20-30-point leads were insurmountable when good, hard defense was actually played. Now teams come back from them every week and you just saw how soft the Suns actually are as they crumbled in the first round along with the Lakers. New Orleans is a joke and so are the Clippers and Mavs. The Nuggets aren't deep either and barely win.
I mean, let’s be real the Western Conference has been the superior conference in the NBA for such a long time that’s why they have won the most NBA finals than the eastern conference has but LeBron has been to those NBA finals for most of that 2010 decade
@@chrisuncleahmad Cap
I would really like the NBA to implement a top 16 playoffs regardless of the conference. Logistical problems will arise but we'll see the best match ups possible. New rivalries will also start
p.s. and mark these words--> Luka will go from Mavs if they dont reach Finals next season. PERIOD.