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In Thybulle's defense, I think PJ Tucker said it best on the Point Forward podcast. Basically he and Iggy both said that wing players who space the floor/cut to the basket and play defense are not going to look good on bad teams because defense has no value on a bad team. Thybulle looked good because Embiid/Simmons/Harden took care of the offense and his defense mattered. Whether its PJ Tucker, Iguodala or Thybulle - none of them are going to look good on a Trailblazers team that is currently 14th in the West.
Agreed. As a raptors fan, we all knew OG was amazing… but the rest of the league never talked about him cause his value wasnt “stat sheet” worthy… but now on the knicks, he doesn’t NEED to worry about offence as much. He can play to his strengths
Buddy forgot to take his stupid pills and now he's yapping on UA-cam...hate to see it, but it is mildly amusing. I feel bad for laughing at the train wreck.
If I was Trent Jr, and never earned 100M in my lifetime before and was offered that contract, I would have signed that offer.. Some of these players are way over their head when it comes to getting a bag lol. Greed will humble you
2:52 i dont think jalen green's career is falling out. He has other stars now. He used to be the only scorer on the team but now 4 out of 5 in the starting line up are scorers
I expected Giddey's number to drop with the arrival of Holmgren and the leap of J-Dub but I expected him to improve his shooting. And with the emergence of Aaron Wiggins, as well as Cason Wallace's decent rookie season, he really needs to step up in order for his minutes to increase.
Everybody can’t just turn into knock down spot up shooters, that’s not giddeys game, his game is using his vision and iq to get his teammates looks or make a play, he doesn’t have that option with okc anymore they have too many weapons already
Bro he was 19 and the girl 17. That's a big difference. 19 and 17 year olds mature wise are the same person. Especially nowadays when kids are more immature than ever in modern history
or he’s on the number one team in the west with SGA , Jdub , and Chet ever thought about that? he’s playing his role not everyone has 2 be a 20 point scorer
@@lay-k4717exactly he gotta gets his on a off night of two better players or really be in stride he’s not top 3 on thunder that’s what happens maybe not even top 5
I can see how he could've just made a mistake. It's easy to forget that the dude just turned 21. 15+ year old girls can look an awful lot like 20 year olds 🤷♂️
Josh Giddey’s minutes are down 5 a game, his fg% is down .7, his three point percentage is up 1.2%. He literally just took a smaller role. Sure he didn’t take a step up this season but his downfall has been greatly exaggerated due to the allegations.
The problem for Giddey is that he is a primary ball handler not an off the ball shooter. He either no long has a role available for him in OKC given the growth of the big 3 or he isn't being used correctly. Certain to flourish on a team where he can be the primary initiator.
Josh Giddey's situation is a byproduct of the evolution of SGA, the health of Chet Holmgren, and the progression of Jalen Williams, and nothing else. Put him on another team and he's probably averaging 18-8-7. He's in an environment where he's probably risking individual stats to be a key role player on a winning team.
@@HellusRaizen Lol they have the best record in the entire nba and you are writing a nonsense post as if they are doing something wrong with the utilization of the team. Maybe if Giddey develops an actual jumpshot and starts looking at the rim when he dribbles, he can have a bigger role on the team. Until then he is deservingly getting a back seat to more effective players. Their record proves that. Yet you are pretending like they need to use him more, in reality they need to trade him for an upgrade. You only defend the guy for non basketball reasons, you must really like him or something… 👍
Thybulle will be gone this summer from Portland. He only makes 11 million per year so he likely will be part of a deal that moves Malcom Brogden or Anfernee Simons Thybulles defenseis still very good to great at times but his PT has mostly gone to Camara along with Rupert and Murray. Who are all younger, longer and cheaper.
Giddey stepped up when he needed to last season, now that their team is 100%, he understands his role in the offense. Doing the little things while being a dependable backup guard with Shai is what they need. He’s still one of the best younger players on the young team; why say he’s washed now when it’s basically said he understands his role and tried to do the little things??? I’m sure after seeing this season end for OKC, he will work heavily on those little things to become a bigger threat as a playmaker and spot up shooter
On GTJ, his stats offensively are not too dissimilar from what they always have been except in 3pt % which is above 40 for the first time in his career, and defensively, the system the raptors this year use isn't as aggressive as the Nick Nurse system of previous years and GTJ still averages a steal per game, on fewer fouls, whilst statistically a better percentage rebounder than ever in his career. Systems play a big part of the changes and with the additions of IQ and Gradey Dick, it's only natural that he would be getting fewer shots as he isn't the only spacing option on a team. Hasn't fallen off, more is being used in different circumstances on a rebuilding team, under a new coach
It’s honestly really good to watch him actually stop taking contested threes and going to the rim more because I think he forgets he’s like a fucking freak athlete 😂
Giddey will be just fine. I'm an OKC fan and trust me, he's a god mode level playmaker it's just our system this season doesn't need that. Shai is the lead guard and Chet and J Dub are both very good passers of the ball. All we really need from our other two guys in the starting 5 is defiance and off ball shooting. Dort brings that and Giddey's eventual replacement Cason Wallace also brings that but those are Giddey's big weaknesses. But if he was on a team crying out for a playmaking PG like say The Spurs he'd really shine. He'll end up like Tre Mann and instantly look like a far better player on a different team when he gets moved on.
I don't think Jalen Green can be the number one option on a team. I think the rockets are just upset they drafted a decent role player instead of a potential all-star level player.
Giddy is a solid piece I hope they keep. He’s unselfish yet has the best pure basketball IQ and vision on that team. He’s just surrounded by guys who are more of iso scorers and selfish so there’s not much movement. At the same time an unselfish guy like giddy is good to have on a selfish team where not many are willing passers. I think he’s solid and will be needed in important games as those scorers won’t show up every game. He’s by far the best player on this list and has had many great games this season. It’s just not gonna be him scoring every night with that many scorers on the team and he’s willing to do other things to contribute.
Andrew Gaze won a NBA championship with the Spurs in 99, And is greatest NBL ( Australian basketball league ) player of all time and has scored the 2nd most points in Olympic basketball.
Lavine has 8 seasons with higher TS than Jalen Greens best. Lavine definitely has his own weaknesses but Jalen green could only dream to he as good as 2021-2023 Lavine
@@DesmondOBrien24I think what he meant is that he's a high volume scorer with Supreme athleticism that doesn't affect winning in other areas. Just my guess
Have a look at his recent highlights. Giddey needs to be more aggressive and eliminate his errors, but he's integral to the Thunder's winning formula, and I think he'll be an all-star eventually.
This crap about Giddey really needs to stop. His minutes have been reduced which is why his stats are down to allow for other players like Wiggins, Wallace, Hayward, etc.get more time and also Chet is obviously getting more looks which takes away from his stats as well. Giddy's per 36 minute averages are pretty much identical to last year when he averaged 16.6, 7.9 and 6.2 and he is an integral part of this team's success and they're right there for 1st place in the West. It's a hot take but it's a REALLY stupid take.
Giddey should not start or share a significant amount of minutes with Shai. Playing Giddey in a reduced role where he controlled the offense off the bench would benefit him much better. Obviously, you're still concerned about his shooting, but he can be used better than an "off-ball" player who needs the ball to he effective.
I think if the drama calms down Giddey will get back to looking like he did a year ago. FYI that Hoops reporter from Australia Andrew Gaze was one of the best Aussie hoopers of all time, he led Seton Hall to the NCAA National Title game.
To be fair, OKC have so many studs, he's getting lost. Who would you rather have shooting the ball (SGA, J-Ddub or Chet? Even J-Will is developing nicely. Absolutely scary how good this thunder team can be if they can stay healthy and somehow keep their core together.
I think your wrong about Giddy, yes he has a lesser role & yes there are probably 7 or 8 guys on the team who are better at scoring, but the slob wisard is thier best passer & he is unselfish with the ball & he is one of thier better rebounders & they are currently no1 in the west, he took a step back because the team got more talent, not because he got worse as a player, on a great team 1 superstar is maximised & everyone else plays thier role, Giddy is playing his & it's working.
giddey has only "regressed" because his teammates have gotten way better so get more touches. giddey is still a great passer and hits important shots for us. it feels like every time he scores it has more of an impact because its less expected so yea hes not worse at all
How are they the same? Malone impregnated a 13-year-old as a 20-year-old, and instead of thanking his lucky stars that the girl's family refused to press criminal charges, he refused to pay a miserable $200 a week for child support. The family took him to court in 1986 when he was a well-paid NBA star, and the judge “settled” for $125 (that Karl appealed as “excessive.”) Karl had disowned two more kids (twins) and was also taken to court for the same reason. Josh had a relationship with a 16-year-old whom he met in a nightclub after she had used a fake ID to get inside, and he broke the relationship the next day when he discovered she was in high school. But more importantly than that, he was cleared of all charges. Despite all of that, Karl is still a beloved NBA icon, and most people are unaware of his past, while Josh's reputation has been dragged through the mud, and his name is synonymous with “molester.” Josh should sue ESPN.
Giddey is a horrible NBA player. He doesn’t space the floor and he’s a defensive liability. I can’t believe he got picked over Kuminga and Franz or that OKC kept him instead of Sengun. He should not be playing over Cason, strokin Joe, or even Aaron Wiggins in the playoffs
Jalen Green's been playing a lot better as of late, really picked up the slack when Sengun went out. Hopefully it's a sign of maturation/growth and not because of any chemistry issues between those two. I think Giddy has a great career in front of him...just on another team. He definitely looks like the odd man out of that young group. He's actually shot the ball a lot better as of late, the issue is, as you alluded to, there's just more talent on the roster now and he's a guy who needs the ball in his hands more to provide value.
tbh i don’t feel one bit bad for josh giggity. thunder need to let cason wallace be the pg, and let australian karl malone go somewhere else. as for gtj, yeah i agree. loved bro in his first 2 years, but all he does is put up shots. he used to give good effort on defense, but he just doesn’t anymore. i’d want to keep him if he focused more on defense rather than inefficient scoring, but we gotta move on.
OKC has 3 first round picks this year, they should trade Giddy along with a pick so they can move up and draft Cody Williams, also draft a backup for Chet and bring up Ousmane Dieng
If Giddey remains on the Thunder, I would get him on the bench and have Isaiah Joe start in his place since he fits more with that lineup. Giddey can run the second unit offense since he would likely get more control of the ball off the bench.
Jalen Green is a type of players that you need to have the offense build around him, I am still a believer of this kid, he got Kobe, Tmac swag that I've seen back in the day. He can score, create, and posturize
that's not the case at all. The entire team knows the true story, and there is a reason he hasn't been charged with anything. Josh's lack of a three point shot is the only thing holding him back at the moment
Josh giddey has been railroaded by an absolutely starstruck and clueless head coach who is allowing SGA to run non stop iso for himself at PG and completely mismanaging giddey by using him as a rebounding small forward who plays little to no role in the offence anymore and has reduced him to the lowest minutes (23) of any of the starters (34). Giddey should be running the offence and getting everyone involved and plays exactly like magic Johnson but he is not being developed anymore and he needs to ask to be traded to a team with an actual offensive structure
Actually disagree with your take on bey, I’m a hawks fan so I watch pretty much every game and he is a great role player aside from his pretty abysmal shooting. Defense has improved a lot from when we first got him (still not exactly great but definitely looks like he is getting better) and his hustle is unbelievable. Always crashing the glass. If he does dribble it’s usually just to get to the rim. Pull ups only make up about 14% percent of his shot attempts
I feel the same. Saddiq is like tops in the league in corner 3 pt attempts but he's been ass at hitting them. Quin hammered out the stupid mid range pull ups from his game and he's been physical in getting to the paint far better than in Detroit. And he's a hustler despite not being a good perimeter defender. And dude def doesn't realize that he's only been starting cuz of injuries to Jalen and DeAndre all season
The allegations will follow Josh Giddey till the end of time. Maybe there will come a point where a player that doesn't like Giddey will purposefully injure him as justice for him not being convicted.
Giddey is largely due to playtime. Hes down 8mpg or something and they have alot of guards who are just great shooters too. I see him being traded to avoid the salary crunch coming.
Yeah which will be good for both teams I think. Trade him for someone like Caruso or chase a veteran like Pat Bev etc. Gives some experience for the thunder and say the Bulls gives them a current replacement for Lonzo Ball to play a similar role to he did there. Or a really good landing spot for him right now is the Spurs. A really good passing guard to pair with Wemby next season. Similar age too. Plus he'll have some playoffs experience after this season.
@@jake8748 Carushow is a tempting trade but damn OKC guards are already stacked. Even wings if you will put Caruso as SF. I don't want to take mins from Wiggs, Cason, or Joe. They need versatile big man backup or can play alongside Chet. Bismack and Muscala ain't enough. I really hope they went with Olynyk. Well let's see what will happen. Hoping for them to trade Giddey that's for sure.
True on guards but they could use Caruso at the 3, and he plays hard which should help the young guys too and is defensive minded. There is some other nice players that would be great fits but it's also what the other team can use too. Lakers could be an interesting fit too if they trade vanders for him.
Thybulle needs to go through Wesley Mathews training regiment. He had the same issue. He didn't do anything complicated, shooting coach said his form was sufficient and had him take thousands of shots a day. Millions of shots could mean millions of dollars in future contracts
Many players, guards and wings especially have off years. Numbers might dip, roster changes, MEDIA, injuries, etc. None of these players are what they were drafted to be. JGreen at best will be a second option. The rest are role players with poor efficiency this season. Still solid. Bey is the biggest question mark. Giddy isn’t too bad, his team is way different this year and he may have to leave on top of the media hanging him off a tree. And thybulle is a poor man Ben Simmons. It’s way worse players in the league bro
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7:50 Was this a Mitch Hedberg joke?!😂
Giddey was on fire now. He was in the best form of his Career right now.
Killian Hayes catching a stray before the music even kicks in 😂
Deserves it
He’s ass
Ruthless lmao buddy got kicked out of the league and still got an honorable mention 😭
Take it as a farewell 😂
He’s Frank Ntilikina Jr
In Thybulle's defense, I think PJ Tucker said it best on the Point Forward podcast. Basically he and Iggy both said that wing players who space the floor/cut to the basket and play defense are not going to look good on bad teams because defense has no value on a bad team. Thybulle looked good because Embiid/Simmons/Harden took care of the offense and his defense mattered. Whether its PJ Tucker, Iguodala or Thybulle - none of them are going to look good on a Trailblazers team that is currently 14th in the West.
Somebody gotta get my mans out of Portland
@@semical7784 I agree. Its not like Thybulle's defense has regressed. He just doesn't look good on a team that flat out sucks.
@@UeProductionzthat’s why videos like this are dumb asl. Just nitpicking not understanding situations.
@@UeProductionzexactly I hate the they didn’t let him go to Dallas
Agreed. As a raptors fan, we all knew OG was amazing… but the rest of the league never talked about him cause his value wasnt “stat sheet” worthy… but now on the knicks, he doesn’t NEED to worry about offence as much. He can play to his strengths
Bro ain’t been the same since he got caught with a High Schooler
That allegation still doesn’t help with anything.
He just isn’t getting enough touches anymore. Chet Holmgren and Jalen Williams are now rising
We also realize he's like the 5th best scorer on the team
He’s been playing very good for like the past 2 weeks
Fact
The guy who said his weaknesses were everything basketball related kind of cooked
*Moral of the story:* if you were a ballhog putting up big stats on tanking teams, chances are you fit the theme of this video.
Not even 😂 dude said sadiq bey is not a good player when he’s just inconsistent
@@Short_mambaa Being a consistent low output player if better than a 50 points once in a bluemoon inconsistent player
Idk about that
Buddy forgot to take his stupid pills and now he's yapping on UA-cam...hate to see it, but it is mildly amusing. I feel bad for laughing at the train wreck.
Wemby puts up big stats on one of the worst teams in the league, think your logic is flawed.
Jalen Green has a lot of other things to worry about right now 😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Like having a THIRTY NINE year old baby mama🤣😂😭💀
@@JahNuhThunDeeTheOneAndOnlydid all that just to convince us he’s not gay
what better beard than a 39 yr old woman?@@chrilpy
@@chrilpy dumb lol....now he's a young father
If I was Trent Jr, and never earned 100M in my lifetime before and was offered that contract, I would have signed that offer.. Some of these players are way over their head when it comes to getting a bag lol. Greed will humble you
Josh "GiGiddey GiGiddey Goo" Quagmire
2:52 i dont think jalen green's career is falling out. He has other stars now. He used to be the only scorer on the team but now 4 out of 5 in the starting line up are scorers
he is shooting very poorly. Typically when you get more help your efficiency goes up.
Hey Gary, if someone offers you a 100+ mil contract... ya take it!
Shoulda learned that from Dennis Shröder..
I played that mf in 2k he’s buys VC , he don’t be in the lab Fr 😂
I expected Giddey's number to drop with the arrival of Holmgren and the leap of J-Dub but I expected him to improve his shooting. And with the emergence of Aaron Wiggins, as well as Cason Wallace's decent rookie season, he really needs to step up in order for his minutes to increase.
He needs to not be a p aedophile and apologize
Everybody can’t just turn into knock down spot up shooters, that’s not giddeys game, his game is using his vision and iq to get his teammates looks or make a play, he doesn’t have that option with okc anymore they have too many weapons already
Giddy lost his powers to a Teenage Monstar 😭😭🤦🏽♂️
wildin lol😄
😂😂😂😂😂
Bro he was 19 and the girl 17. That's a big difference. 19 and 17 year olds mature wise are the same person. Especially nowadays when kids are more immature than ever in modern history
I mean OKC got ball hog Shai,J Bum and Stickman who always gets the ball.They making a big PG like Giddey a shooting guard which is stupid.
@@Shinobi33try again
Josh Giddey was already having a bad season, since he dosent fit the thunders system, but it’s even worse now with the allegations against him
or he’s on the number one team in the west with SGA , Jdub , and Chet ever thought about that? he’s playing his role not everyone has 2 be a 20 point scorer
@@lay-k4717exactly he gotta gets his on a off night of two better players or really be in stride he’s not top 3 on thunder that’s what happens maybe not even top 5
Well maybe you should open your eyes, have a look at his last five games 🤣🤣🤡🤡
I mean OKC got ball hog Shai,J Bum and Stickman who always gets the ball.They making a big PG like Giddey a shooting guard which is stupid.
Any allegations/charges were dropped against giddey but you can see it did sort of affect him
No more Jalen Green slander. He is about to be a father to his aunt’s child. A grown man.
Wtf 😒
Uh, what?
Why does him being a father has anything to do with this we are talking about basketball here
@@_will795he having a kid w a milf
Is this true??
Josh Giddey's Rule: If she's under my PPG she's okay.
🤦🏾♂️ LOL ah man.
Lame
God people really still joke about that stuff 😒
@@DaffyTaffy93yes it came out this season 😂
I can see how he could've just made a mistake. It's easy to forget that the dude just turned 21. 15+ year old girls can look an awful lot like 20 year olds 🤷♂️
Josh Giddey’s minutes are down 5 a game, his fg% is down .7, his three point percentage is up 1.2%.
He literally just took a smaller role. Sure he didn’t take a step up this season but his downfall has been greatly exaggerated due to the allegations.
The problem for Giddey is that he is a primary ball handler not an off the ball shooter. He either no long has a role available for him in OKC given the growth of the big 3 or he isn't being used correctly. Certain to flourish on a team where he can be the primary initiator.
Josh Giddey's situation is a byproduct of the evolution of SGA, the health of Chet Holmgren, and the progression of Jalen Williams, and nothing else. Put him on another team and he's probably averaging 18-8-7. He's in an environment where he's probably risking individual stats to be a key role player on a winning team.
Yeah no, watch his game and you’ll see hes a liability. Hopefully he can work on his game
You don’t watch Thunder games, he can’t shoot consistently and is not good at defending his position.
I mean OKC got ball hog Shai,J Bum and Stickman who always gets the ball.They making a big PG like Giddey a shooting guard which is stupid.
@@HellusRaizen Lol they have the best record in the entire nba and you are writing a nonsense post as if they are doing something wrong with the utilization of the team. Maybe if Giddey develops an actual jumpshot and starts looking at the rim when he dribbles, he can have a bigger role on the team. Until then he is deservingly getting a back seat to more effective players. Their record proves that. Yet you are pretending like they need to use him more, in reality they need to trade him for an upgrade. You only defend the guy for non basketball reasons, you must really like him or something… 👍
@@27Lozc 🤣🤣🤣 Not ageing well fella.
Damn Andy you might have been a bit too early with Jalen green and Josh Giddey. Both are on fire right now.
Thybulle will be gone this summer from Portland. He only makes 11 million per year so he likely will be part of a deal that moves Malcom Brogden or Anfernee Simons
Thybulles defenseis still very good to great at times but his PT has mostly gone to Camara along with Rupert and Murray. Who are all younger, longer and cheaper.
Tbh I never saw Giddey as a star player or even as a second option but I hoped the guy could be a valuable role-player.
I think he could have a career like Mike Conley.
I mean OKC got ball hog Shai,J Bum and Stickman who always gets the ball.They making a big PG like Giddey a shooting guard which is stupid.
Giddey stepped up when he needed to last season, now that their team is 100%, he understands his role in the offense. Doing the little things while being a dependable backup guard with Shai is what they need. He’s still one of the best younger players on the young team; why say he’s washed now when it’s basically said he understands his role and tried to do the little things??? I’m sure after seeing this season end for OKC, he will work heavily on those little things to become a bigger threat as a playmaker and spot up shooter
Nope he gone, trad comming his way OKC need to dump contracts and make space for the up and comers
On GTJ, his stats offensively are not too dissimilar from what they always have been except in 3pt % which is above 40 for the first time in his career, and defensively, the system the raptors this year use isn't as aggressive as the Nick Nurse system of previous years and GTJ still averages a steal per game, on fewer fouls, whilst statistically a better percentage rebounder than ever in his career.
Systems play a big part of the changes and with the additions of IQ and Gradey Dick, it's only natural that he would be getting fewer shots as he isn't the only spacing option on a team. Hasn't fallen off, more is being used in different circumstances on a rebuilding team, under a new coach
Jalen Green has been balling lately. He had to adjust this season with playing offball more and letting Sengun cook.
I was wondering if his AAU idis would prevent him from working with Sengun but glad it is
It’s honestly really good to watch him actually stop taking contested threes and going to the rim more because I think he forgets he’s like a fucking freak athlete 😂
@@dsbeats5657his constant 3s stepbacks are annoying cuz they feel like 15% makes. Been doing better on catch and shoot the last couple weeks
My heart is pumping hard when Andy starts with the lowlights
I disagree with the jalen Green choice the rockets are going through transition he will eventually find his feet there he's an amazing player
couldn’t have been more correct
Trent had a huge game against Phoenix the other night so that’s encouraging
Trent jr is a bag, but the Powell trade is looking good cus he’s been balling for the clippers
GTJ had a good follow up game against the blazers
Giddey will be just fine. I'm an OKC fan and trust me, he's a god mode level playmaker it's just our system this season doesn't need that. Shai is the lead guard and Chet and J Dub are both very good passers of the ball. All we really need from our other two guys in the starting 5 is defiance and off ball shooting. Dort brings that and Giddey's eventual replacement Cason Wallace also brings that but those are Giddey's big weaknesses. But if he was on a team crying out for a playmaking PG like say The Spurs he'd really shine. He'll end up like Tre Mann and instantly look like a far better player on a different team when he gets moved on.
I don't think Jalen Green can be the number one option on a team. I think the rockets are just upset they drafted a decent role player instead of a potential all-star level player.
Giddy is a solid piece I hope they keep. He’s unselfish yet has the best pure basketball IQ and vision on that team. He’s just surrounded by guys who are more of iso scorers and selfish so there’s not much movement. At the same time an unselfish guy like giddy is good to have on a selfish team where not many are willing passers. I think he’s solid and will be needed in important games as those scorers won’t show up every game. He’s by far the best player on this list and has had many great games this season. It’s just not gonna be him scoring every night with that many scorers on the team and he’s willing to do other things to contribute.
there's only one selfish guy on that team, and i think you know who it is.
If you watch OKC games, Giddey is a good gritty player. He is in a slump and finding his way on the team. OKC will keep him.
Nahh buddy he got players ahead of him that are better
Andy! I haven’t watched you in some years, but when I did I would regularly binge on your videos, so happy you’ve passed 500k keep it up🏀
Andrew Gaze won a NBA championship with the Spurs in 99, And is greatest NBL ( Australian basketball league ) player of all time and has scored the 2nd most points in Olympic basketball.
Giddy is the most shocking of the group, but at this point I have way more hope for than the other dudes in this video
OKC can't protect Josh Kitty forever
Giddy has to see the ball. He is the best facilitator, that team needs that
Jalen Green lmao couldn’t have timed that worse
Does anyone remember when Andy had a video up for like 20 minutes saying Jalen Green was going to be the next Kobe?
Just wanted to point out, Andrew gaze was a ball player, not really a journalist, he’s “played” in the nba.
NBA champion and the greatest Aussie Olympic basketball player ever
7:50 Is this a Mitch Hedberg joke!!!😂😂😂
This didn’t age well Josh Giddey and Jalen Green
Jalen Green is basically just another Zach Lavine if we are being real
Wtf????
Just because they can both jump high????
Lavine has 8 seasons with higher TS than Jalen Greens best. Lavine definitely has his own weaknesses but Jalen green could only dream to he as good as 2021-2023 Lavine
@@DesmondOBrien24I think what he meant is that he's a high volume scorer with Supreme athleticism that doesn't affect winning in other areas. Just my guess
Zach lavine from 2020-2023 was a legit all star. Jalen green likely never gets their
Jalen Green now UNSTOPPABLE 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Giddey trying to match his ppg with the ages of ppl hes getting involved with
She lied about her age btw
Have a look at his recent highlights. Giddey needs to be more aggressive and eliminate his errors, but he's integral to the Thunder's winning formula, and I think he'll be an all-star eventually.
This crap about Giddey really needs to stop. His minutes have been reduced which is why his stats are down to allow for other players like Wiggins, Wallace, Hayward, etc.get more time and also Chet is obviously getting more looks which takes away from his stats as well. Giddy's per 36 minute averages are pretty much identical to last year when he averaged 16.6, 7.9 and 6.2 and he is an integral part of this team's success and they're right there for 1st place in the West. It's a hot take but it's a REALLY stupid take.
Giddey should not start or share a significant amount of minutes with Shai. Playing Giddey in a reduced role where he controlled the offense off the bench would benefit him much better. Obviously, you're still concerned about his shooting, but he can be used better than an "off-ball" player who needs the ball to he effective.
I think if the drama calms down Giddey will get back to looking like he did a year ago. FYI that Hoops reporter from Australia Andrew Gaze was one of the best Aussie hoopers of all time, he led Seton Hall to the NCAA National Title game.
To be fair, OKC have so many studs, he's getting lost. Who would you rather have shooting the ball (SGA, J-Ddub or Chet? Even J-Will is developing nicely. Absolutely scary how good this thunder team can be if they can stay healthy and somehow keep their core together.
Jalen Green must have seen this video! What a hot streak from him recently
People who just judge based on stats don't know ball. Giddey's inbound passing alone means you put him on the floor.
I think your wrong about Giddy, yes he has a lesser role & yes there are probably 7 or 8 guys on the team who are better at scoring, but the slob wisard is thier best passer & he is unselfish with the ball & he is one of thier better rebounders & they are currently no1 in the west, he took a step back because the team got more talent, not because he got worse as a player, on a great team 1 superstar is maximised & everyone else plays thier role, Giddy is playing his & it's working.
Fatherhood Jalen Green
giddey has only "regressed" because his teammates have gotten way better so get more touches. giddey is still a great passer and hits important shots for us. it feels like every time he scores it has more of an impact because its less expected so yea hes not worse at all
Bro Andy is jacked!! Good stuff man
Josh Giddey was BALLIN
#ThePredator
Spurs need Giddey
His scoring is down because his teammates are scoring more. Giddy is primarily a playmaker.
💥💥That dude for the Hawks missing that layup and then him complaining for a foul had me laughing
Josh Giddey is a good piece to have if you’re rebuilding now that okc is good you can really see how bad his game is.
He has no jump shot and it’s broken af
The Josh Giddey villain treatment is almost reminiscent of Karl Malone when he played. Hmm.
*Josh Malone*
Except Malone never got that treatment because most people didn’t know about this until the internet
@@xepher215 Oh. Well at leaat they both share one common thing: They once had affairs with minors.
How are they the same? Malone impregnated a 13-year-old as a 20-year-old, and instead of thanking his lucky stars that the girl's family refused to press criminal charges, he refused to pay a miserable $200 a week for child support. The family took him to court in 1986 when he was a well-paid NBA star, and the judge “settled” for $125 (that Karl appealed as “excessive.”) Karl had disowned two more kids (twins) and was also taken to court for the same reason. Josh had a relationship with a 16-year-old whom he met in a nightclub after she had used a fake ID to get inside, and he broke the relationship the next day when he discovered she was in high school. But more importantly than that, he was cleared of all charges. Despite all of that, Karl is still a beloved NBA icon, and most people are unaware of his past, while Josh's reputation has been dragged through the mud, and his name is synonymous with “molester.” Josh should sue ESPN.
@@RVered Oh OK thanks for the clarification.
Giddey is a horrible NBA player. He doesn’t space the floor and he’s a defensive liability. I can’t believe he got picked over Kuminga and Franz or that OKC kept him instead of Sengun. He should not be playing over Cason, strokin Joe, or even Aaron Wiggins in the playoffs
Great video Andy!! Thanks!!
Andrew Gaze being referred to Australian basketball reporter 😭
Jalen Green's been playing a lot better as of late, really picked up the slack when Sengun went out. Hopefully it's a sign of maturation/growth and not because of any chemistry issues between those two.
I think Giddy has a great career in front of him...just on another team. He definitely looks like the odd man out of that young group. He's actually shot the ball a lot better as of late, the issue is, as you alluded to, there's just more talent on the roster now and he's a guy who needs the ball in his hands more to provide value.
Ironically, Jaylen Green has been looking good as of late
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tbh i don’t feel one bit bad for josh giggity. thunder need to let cason wallace be the pg, and let australian karl malone go somewhere else.
as for gtj, yeah i agree. loved bro in his first 2 years, but all he does is put up shots. he used to give good effort on defense, but he just doesn’t anymore. i’d want to keep him if he focused more on defense rather than inefficient scoring, but we gotta move on.
OKC has 3 first round picks this year, they should trade Giddy along with a pick so they can move up and draft Cody Williams, also draft a backup for Chet and bring up Ousmane Dieng
I guess the Bulls missed this video on Giddey 😅
If Giddey remains on the Thunder, I would get him on the bench and have Isaiah Joe start in his place since he fits more with that lineup. Giddey can run the second unit offense since he would likely get more control of the ball off the bench.
Nice vid bro
The new Andy Hoops logo = Instant UA-cam algorithm buff
Didn’t know Gary Trent Jr started being terrible
he isnt that bad, this guy doesnt watch ball. he just makes clickbait videos from reading reddit comments
Great video, do you have players who did the opposite, where you thought they werent anything special and ended up changing your mind?
You called Jalen Green " She" 😂😂 2:00
This dude loves tearing down players. He literally laughs throughout the entire video.
Ok, and they making millions? Lmao if you think making fun of millionaires for being mid at their jobs is offensive than your weird 😂
Jalen Green is a type of players that you need to have the offense build around him, I am still a believer of this kid, he got Kobe, Tmac swag that I've seen back in the day. He can score, create, and posturize
3:49 green a real funny dude trying that bs on Isaac 😂
we should of kept Norman powell
Josh Giddey really the only guy getting 15 a night before showing up to the arena
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I just think after he allegedly dated a minor the whole team lost their respect for him
that's not the case at all. The entire team knows the true story, and there is a reason he hasn't been charged with anything. Josh's lack of a three point shot is the only thing holding him back at the moment
yall think nba players give a shit about that lmao karl malone
Josh giddey has been railroaded by an absolutely starstruck and clueless head coach who is allowing SGA to run non stop iso for himself at PG and completely mismanaging giddey by using him as a rebounding small forward who plays little to no role in the offence anymore and has reduced him to the lowest minutes (23) of any of the starters (34). Giddey should be running the offence and getting everyone involved and plays exactly like magic Johnson but he is not being developed anymore and he needs to ask to be traded to a team with an actual offensive structure
Jalen green saw this video and took it personally lmao.
Actually disagree with your take on bey, I’m a hawks fan so I watch pretty much every game and he is a great role player aside from his pretty abysmal shooting. Defense has improved a lot from when we first got him (still not exactly great but definitely looks like he is getting better) and his hustle is unbelievable. Always crashing the glass. If he does dribble it’s usually just to get to the rim. Pull ups only make up about 14% percent of his shot attempts
I feel the same. Saddiq is like tops in the league in corner 3 pt attempts but he's been ass at hitting them. Quin hammered out the stupid mid range pull ups from his game and he's been physical in getting to the paint far better than in Detroit. And he's a hustler despite not being a good perimeter defender. And dude def doesn't realize that he's only been starting cuz of injuries to Jalen and DeAndre all season
Giddy has been really strong post-all star break. He may not be for the future but let's see how Mark can optimize everyone this post-szn
The allegations will follow Josh Giddey till the end of time. Maybe there will come a point where a player that doesn't like Giddey will purposefully injure him as justice for him not being convicted.
Giddey is largely due to playtime. Hes down 8mpg or something and they have alot of guards who are just great shooters too. I see him being traded to avoid the salary crunch coming.
He's definitely getting traded
Yeah which will be good for both teams I think. Trade him for someone like Caruso or chase a veteran like Pat Bev etc. Gives some experience for the thunder and say the Bulls gives them a current replacement for Lonzo Ball to play a similar role to he did there.
Or a really good landing spot for him right now is the Spurs. A really good passing guard to pair with Wemby next season. Similar age too. Plus he'll have some playoffs experience after this season.
@@jake8748 Carushow is a tempting trade but damn OKC guards are already stacked. Even wings if you will put Caruso as SF. I don't want to take mins from Wiggs, Cason, or Joe. They need versatile big man backup or can play alongside Chet. Bismack and Muscala ain't enough. I really hope they went with Olynyk. Well let's see what will happen. Hoping for them to trade Giddey that's for sure.
True on guards but they could use Caruso at the 3, and he plays hard which should help the young guys too and is defensive minded.
There is some other nice players that would be great fits but it's also what the other team can use too.
Lakers could be an interesting fit too if they trade vanders for him.
Enjoyed your use of "piss-poor" to describe Greens shot selection 😅
It's kind of unfortunate for Giddey that OKC got Williams, whom is simply a better version of Giddey.
greens been hitting crazy since this video dropped
This aged like milk 😂
Patrick Williams is another person that fits this video. He’s averaged nearly identical stats in each of his first four seasons
Man Giddey ain't doing nothing wrong 😂😂😂😂
Every vid, every UA-camr has Josh Giddey
Thybulle needs to go through Wesley Mathews training regiment. He had the same issue. He didn't do anything complicated, shooting coach said his form was sufficient and had him take thousands of shots a day. Millions of shots could mean millions of dollars in future contracts
Josh Giddey can’t make a shot if it ain’t within 15ft 😏
Or 15 years old lol he's a sicko
Many players, guards and wings especially have off years. Numbers might dip, roster changes, MEDIA, injuries, etc. None of these players are what they were drafted to be. JGreen at best will be a second option. The rest are role players with poor efficiency this season. Still solid. Bey is the biggest question mark. Giddy isn’t too bad, his team is way different this year and he may have to leave on top of the media hanging him off a tree. And thybulle is a poor man Ben Simmons. It’s way worse players in the league bro
Jalen Green is starting to kick things up a notch. last 10 games have been amazing for him
I’m seeing my life fall apart.
Then do something about it
And yet Giddey is still a starter on currently the best team in the West...yep...his career is falling apart lol 😂