Boss IR-2 Amp and IR Cabinet Simulator - Why you need this on your board
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2023
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What’s the reasoning for the zoom in of the settings if you’re not gonna edit it to work correctly?
ikr
the only thing is, each amp isn't 2 channels. The red is whatever you set it to last, and the green is whatever you set it to last. So green can be a 'brown' setting while the red can be 'twin' setting.....or both red/green can be set to the same modeling with two different settings.
thank you!
Yup .. he didn’t read the manual ..
I laughed when he said green and then red channel of the amp setting .. that sir does not exist .
You just flipping between the two saved presets
Yep. Was stopping here to see if someone else said that yet. There is no “green” or “red” for each amp.
@@garyatkins4479yup, you didn't hear him say "i didn't read the manual". Ffs, its an off the cuff initial reaction. Start your own channel and make a more accurate review.
Use a boost pedal or a drive. Done...
I just got one! I love it because I can quickly and easily go from my amp setup to my iPad, pedals, effects loop and all. I play at home in a common area and headphones are often needed to keep the peace. Honestly, no one needs to hear the noises coming from my guitar! 5 stars.
What does your ipad do in this scenario?
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
@@thomas79marshallIt was released over a week ago. Plenty of places have them in stock.
@@thomas79marshall yes it has. They are only available at dealers physical locations currently. I have one.
@@faethe000it plays music through the pedal into your headphones. Or UA-cam if you’re trying to learn. There are also other things I think it can do. But I’m not sure that’s just one that I know of.
Wow - nice - Boss have killed it, I love the simplicity - no parameter overload. Now if they could do a bass version - oh yes please🤔 (SVT, B15, Aguilar etc etc)
You get some bass amps in the IR 200. Don’t forget Trace Elliot.
You can use a guitar amp+cabinet modeler for bass too!
Hoping to see one of these for bass in the future. Seems like a great idea relative to the form factor and cost.
I totally agree.
Thanks for another awesome video ! I’m sure you can more out of it with different types of guitars also.
I have the Boss GX100. The amp models are fantastic. The effects are great as well. Best pedal I've ever experienced.
Yepp, I have that same one and I really like it too. A shame that you don’t hear about them that much on guitar channels because it’s a nice piece of gear 👍🏼
Great episode! Your demos are invaluable. The pedal graphics are so helpful, love the lighting, audio was excellent. Thanks 😎🤓
WOW!! Thats pretty darn sweet sounding!
also, one over-looked factory setting is the amp-type setting that you can choose. The default is the direct LINE signal, but there are like a dozen different amp-type settings that are optimal for whatever you're putting the audio signal into. For example, the INPUT/RETURN of a JC-120, or Katana, or 1x12 combp, 2x12 combo, 4x12 stack, etc. I haven't experimented with these much, but the option does exist beyond the direct line signal that is the default for audio interfaces, computer programs, a PA, etc.....this is all in the manual.
I’m guessing Direct is the one to use with acoustic IRs?
@@coffeedudeguy I would guess so, but you can always experiment. I doubt it would be treated like a regular acoustic guitar since you're playing an electric guitar that is emulating an acoustic, so you could always adjust the pedal settings to your taste. The manual says for the default factory setting of the LINE signal: "use this setting when connecting to a PC audio interface, keyboard amp, mixer, or digital recorder"
So you could leave it as the LINE signal, but if you were, lets say, using an acoustic IR into a JC-120's loop RETURN, you could choose this option on the IR-2 pedal. But if you were playing an acoustic IR into a console, or PA or something, you'd almost certainly just leave it as the direct LINE signal and adjust your sound in these devices.
@@Gutch220 I think I get it now. I'm thinking more along the lines of occasionally I would play an acoustic guitar through my main pedalboard, so I could just switch over to that mode using the IR-2 instead of having a another acoustic guitar pedal take up space on the board.
Will have to try it out for sure, thanks!
Man, I love your playing. You blow me away. I do watch your conversations with Baxter, but now that I realize what a great player you are, I look forward to watching more videos of you playing.
I'm guessing it wasn't intentional, but when you were cycling through settings, the overlaid graphics were not updating to show the knob/switch positions.
Those pickups are killer ! Tasty licks too, my friend.
Love your playing!
I just dished out a about $150.xx More and bought the Boss ME-90. It's got 11 amp models with other effects (basically a whole board with the amp modeler). It can be used with a computer and Boss tone central or in a stand alone just using the knobs and switches. There are several ways to hook it up. I use the left and right line outputs directly into my Audio interface. I have to say I love it. Boss is doing a great job with their pedals and effects.
Great video, I’m hoping to get to your shop again this summer
2XL behind you put a smile on my face 🙌
Great demo, I ordered one from Sweetwater because of this.
Pretty cool, I’ve owned the ir 200 since it came out and haven’t had any want or need for any kind of modeler or ir since, this would serve most of its uses, still got full use of my beloved pedal board.
I have a board with an ir-200 and HX effects….it’s all I need
@@williamsporing1500 great stuff man, tons of stuff you don’t need as well.
Sounds great, for a mini rig I don’t think you can go wrong.
The only thing this pedal is missing is XLR stereo outputs so it can be a direct box when you’re playing live.
The only thing keeping me from buying one.
What does that mean?
@@skittlybeepbop13 It means that if you want to run direct into a PA you will have to have a direct box or if you want to run in stereo, two. They cost more than the pedal.
1/4" to xlr exists
wont be a clean send to the board
@@kingswayguitar
Im getting this pedal for sure! thanks for the post..
Nice pedal Jonathan.
Great riffing brother! 👍🎸
Thinking of adding this in the loop of my GX-100 to free up some DSP for more space echo's.
The Boss IR-200 is nice because it includes bass amps/cabinets!
It's on my list! Cheers Jonathan!!
Glad to see Boss making a compact device with both Amp Sims and cab ir. I have a couple of IR loader pedal sized devices, that I use with my 120 watt Orange Crush Pro head. When not wanting to hear the cab at night if you have an effects loop you can run the send out for the signal to one of these IR cab pedals and pick your particular cab and then listen with headphones to the device works great. Just keep the master on the amp turned to zero so you don’t hear the real speaker cab and you can use the individual volumes on the dirty or clean channel for your volume to the headphones
One question I have, can you roll back on the volume on teh guitar to clean it up ? Like a tube amp and modellers?
I could definitely see one of those in the future.!
Read the manual properly before demoing a product wrong dude
Thanks for the review! Did i miss where you did the Diamond (Vox) setting? To me, that's the standout!
Some one will run this through the Tonex capture software for its own setting. So you have both the tonex and boss settings in one box.
That's a nice sounding amp/cab sim, and for the price and small form factor, unbeatable right now. Personally, I would also consider its more expensive and larger big brother the IR-200 that offers way more parameters and 128 preset memories. It's great to be able to recall numerous settings that one has painstakingly worked on easily. That was the same logic I used when I chose the Boss SY-200 over the SY-1.
Yep, this thing ended up making me buy an IR200
IR-200 Has less amp choices and no plate reverb, if that’s important to you.
I like it, but would choose the ir200 over it.
@@ProfVonW Great points. It looks like the IR-200 has 5 guitar and 3 bass amps to the IR-2's 8 guitar amps. The IR-200 has a "Studio" ambience mode that adds "air" by simulating a studio off-axis ambience mic (had to use Bard to get that info) - in place of the IR-2's "Plate" mode. Reading thru a product's manual before buying it can often help (most are usually available online these days).
Yessss I have the IR-200 and it’s my main live amp now.
I think Boss have done really well with the connectivity. There are boxes out there that only do one amp, cost twice as much and only have one single 1/4” output. If it’s about convenience, then the flexibility of the Boss is ideal.
Ive been crazy happy with the Mooer pedals that do this, cool Boss is at it as well
Awesome play awesome pedal.Green for clean Red for shred😊
Sounds not too bad at all. I bought a TC ELECTRONIC AMPWORX DeLuxe a few months back, sounded harsh, I ended up selling. The Boss is £40 more and I imagine will be better value than the TC. I currently use a Tech 21 Blonde (all analog) as a pedal base, the Boss will hopefully be a good investment but doubt I will replace my T21.
Cool and I'll probably get 1 eventually but it's not replacing my fractal floor unit
Hey! Great video! Thanks a lot for sharing! :)
I have only one thought... I guess the Green and the Red are not channels of the same Amp, but just a presets, where you can save any of the models that are present in the unit. Correct me if I'm wrong! I don't have the pedal yet, but of what I saw on other places it seems, that this is the case...
Cheers! :)
What actual amp/speaker setup are you running through the signal chain? Or is this a direct box?
There is no green or red side of the amps its just two presets as snapshot of the knobs.
Awesome pedal, but I wish BOSS would update their boring color palettes. They are sticking with blah blacks, grays, whites, etc. It would be nice to have British Racing Green or even some cool new yellow, red, or orange pedals to break things up.
Love it ❤
It sounded pretty good to my ears. 👍
So this goes through the amp? Straight into the front? Effects loop? I have a Marshall dsl if that matters. So I imagine I’d set the amp to a neutral setting and then use this?
Would’ve liked to hear you on an LP for some of the amps.
Hey just a minor correction, the red and green channel are just the saved sounds. So you can have a tweed on one and the Mesa on the other. Don’t think of it as red channel and green channel on an amp, it’s just two saved amp settings.
I imagine they’re doing that for guitarists who only need a two switchable channels amp for what they’re playing. Usually a clean and rhythm channels that you can add effects to or even an overdrive pedal for leads. Well done Boss.
This has been confusing me, too. Is it the case that when you're in one sound (eg Brown) then you turn the knob to Tweed, you get Tweed then if you click the pedal you go back to Brown? So you are then switching between Brown and Tweed when you click the pedal. I find the manual a but confusing on this.
@@anniedarkhorse6791 no. So you make a sound on the green channel, let’s say with the tweed setting, then you click to the red channel and make a sound using Brown. The green channel is now your tweed amp saved sound and the red channel is now your brown saved sound.
So do you plug this into an amp or can you go direct into a PA system with it? Do you run your delay, compressor and other pedals before it? Do you need a powered cabinet for it?
I think you can do both. Into amp or into PA.
i use a two-notes cab-m, which I find suits my needs. i use an origin effects ‘magma57’ as the preamp, and only the power amp and speaker sim/model in the two notes. i use their Fane speaker sim and EL34 tube model, i.e to emulate a hiwatt. i wish it was stereo - or more to the point, as it has two simulated mics, i wish each mic had a separate output (not even the new one they released a couple months ago has this!). does the boss pedal have an app that allows you to get into this sort of detail?
Same here with the opus for bass
Ebs preamp into opus
I think the torpedo remote is quite overwhelming for beginners, but it's one of these go to solutions.
definately a home run for Boss and us.
Great demo, i must say, i think you should check info on your "red side and green side", they are 2 different setting and amp choices, that stays where you leave it before you switch. Just Sayin' ;)
I just wanna say I did not realize you were such a professional lovely sounding guitar player. Super tasteful, nice touch, musical, controlled, mature
Can you compare this to the Two Notes Opus?
how does it react with an overdrive before it?
Can‘t tell you how much I love this Tele ❤😊
Why put up an overlay if it doesnt show where the knobs actually are?
would've been nice if you showed the pedal while playing it instead of a steady image
It can’t sound that much”lesser” than any of these things. They all sound pretty right in the stereo speakers. Some “feel” different… probably because of impedance settings. I bought two different brands and ended up using the one with headphones for practice purposes mostly. (I have vintage amps). This doesn’t have that, right? For emergencies only on a live board. That means I’d have to buy a direct box or two. I’d want black panel, tweed and AC models. That’s about it. I do like the effects loop for the delay and reverb. Cool review!
Is this typically used through the PA or is it meant to be played through your normal guitar amp (which I would think would color the amp simulation a bit)?
Thinking a good backup too!
If I have a pedal board with a stereo out how do I input it in this one?
If you kept everything at 12 o’clock, then it sounds like all the hi gain sims are a lot lower level than the clean ones. If you can save and trigger from a laptop with level and gain settings that’s fine, but bit of a concern as a basic foot pedal, as flipping from dirty to clean would be unusable on stage, no?
Got mine yesterday, instantly fell in love with twin and tweed sims... Today fell in love with marshall, peavey and vox...
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
@@thomas79marshall Boss IR-2 was released and I made my order @thomann on 30.11.2023. - in EU. Got it 2 days ago. It's on backorder almost from the start, and I'm very happy I found out about it the same day it was released...
@@thomas79marshallit’s been out for over a week
Just received one and itching to play around with it.
How come the knobs never move on the graphics?
Lovin' that Tele...
How is this different the the Line 6 POD? Interested to hear a comparison.
I agree.
Can you put this pedal in front of a clean fender amp.With the Cab simulators off!
I think there are modeling pedals that are more versatile for the same price that allows you to switch up the cabinets and microphone types and placements. These all seem to be fixed, unless there's a usb port and software for more precise editing? I'd rather go with a Valeton, Mooer, Flamma, Sonicake, Nux, all make great floor modelers with an expression pedal for $200 to $300
You can change the reverb type. Room, Hall, Plate
i enjoyed your blues playing on this one Jon ! And your playing overall. What pickups are in that Tele ?
Cheers from down under 😎🎸🤘
I’m not Jon but I own one. They are TV Jones pickups.
@@bks252 thx for that. Greatly appreciated. Cheers.
unreal value for the money, such a well thought out and executed product, Boss has really kept their name strong by being relevant and affordable enough
Will this kill modelers? Maybe low-end ones. There is still a place for more complex rigs like axefx / helix / kemper and they do more. Plus, if you want a dedicated fx loop you'd need to spend more cash for the IR-200 and at that point you'd be better off just waiting for some variant of the hx stomp.
The IR-2 does have a built in stereo effect loop which is placed before the built in reverb . It is of course a fairly basic solution wjich cost only a small part of the ones you mentioned but if all you need is amp (toggle between two amps/IRs) and speaker emulation and reverb you could gig with just this small pedal even on a standard 9 volt battery and you can expand using the effect loop.
What is the use of the graphics in this vid? He tweaks it but it'd be awesome if the graphics where corresponding to what it is exactly we're hearing.
Boss’s marketing department seems to have made the term “Game Changer” a prerequisite to influencers getting one for “review”
It's a tired phrase.
How did the "Diamond" setting sound? I assume it's a Vox sound?
Yeah Diamond is a Vox on my Boss ME90. It's what I use most of the time.
That tele sounds killer
Cool beans!
Sounds as good as all the usual suspects on my iPad, seems like a game changer
What are you playing it thru as far as speakers and amplification?
I need this answer as well. I’m new to amp sims and IR’s and need it explained to me like I’m 5. I don’t understand them at all.
For $200, I don't think you can go wrong! This just might be a Christmas gift to myself
I just got mine. Put it into my tone master powered cab and it is awesome! Easy to use and quality sounds. Keeping it as a backup for giggling
Damn, bro. A Tone master AND a modeling pedal...this dude really be coming out of the closet in the casino guitars comment section 😂
I also keep a few pedals just to giggle.
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
Are you done yet? This pedal has been out for a bit now. You're not able to get one at the moment because they're sold out everywhere and sites are only taking preorders. I thought this would have been obvious.
@@thomas79marshall
After much hesitation, I got myself one of these. Now I'm getting drowned in an ocean of IR to choose from on the Net to try replacing the stock ones.
Any recommendation much welcome, especially for the clean tone (i play only with a clean sound).
York Audio
i agree!@@thatcrazybeat3725
Tone Factor XR IR
Nice new entry in the modeler world, I'm sure it's gonna have its fans as it is very small, not very expensive and simple to use at home. For a bit more money and if you can live with a double boss sized pedal the HX Stomp remains the king in the tiny modeler world though, it's so many worlds apart from that thing it's not even funny. Flexibility, ease of use live, variety of tones, plus the fact that you have all the effects, the tuner etc just do yourself a favor and go straight to that, I love mine to death it's my only "amp" at home and serves as a backup, and the HX Effects has replaced almost all the effects on my pedalboard. This thing will be the end of nothing lol
i don't think most wouyld consider 3.25 times the price is a 'bit more money'
I mean, yea, but they're two totally different things. I have a Stomp and I love it, but it's for specific applications. I'm considering grabbing one of these IR-2's as well, to use in somewhat similar applications as I'm currently using a Simplifier. For instance, right now I have 2 FRFR cabs, and I either use them for stereo, or in conjunction with a tube amp (dry) in the center for a w/d/w configuration. When I run in stereo, I just run guitar straight into the HX Stomp, and use the balanced outs into the FRFR cabs.
But when I really want the best tone possible, I go w/d/w with my pedalboard, which has very specific pedals routed in a very particular way. The HX Stomp simply would not work in this setup (I've tried everything. I was able to get somewhat close, but not entirely. Especially since I wan't to run my SDE3000 and micropitch for those 80s/EVH sounds). The best way is to run any dry pedals to front of tube amp, then line out of the tube amp into my stereo-wet pedals, which either end with, or are in the loop of, my Simplifier (currently), or something like this IR-2 from Boss. It'd be perfect, allow it to take my dry signal, but still have a proper cab sim before sending the wet L/R to FOH, PA, or FRFR cabs.
I have a Stomp as well, and the main thing that keeps me from using it a lot is the interface and all the menu-diving. It's not what I would call convenient at all. So that's one thing that's very different about this pedal; it's super easy to use, which is a selling point for many. I understand, of course, that with all the complexity and flexibility the Stomp has, all that menu-diving is a requirement. It's just not the way I prefer to work usually.
Anyway, I don't think Boss is trying to compete with a Stomp really.
When the pedal is off, is it true bypass?
I would like to hear this pedal compared to the ME90’s amp model sounds.
I see a lot of folks jumping on the wagon here, but I hear just too much harshness coming through in the video, maybe just tough to capture well through UA-cam. Nice guitar man.
Great pedal. If you add the cost of reverb, delay and chorus, it reaches price point of a decent modeler who can offer much more.Still a great option compared to UAFX and likes.
Yea, I was thinking the Boss ME90 is probably a better value. This probably works good for people with a full pedal board already though
100% still better to go with the HX Stomp or something comparable.
@@BradsGonnaPlay I would say it depends on the player. If someone already has a bunch of effects they like, then an HX Stomp would be redundant and overkill, as it's much less easier to use than this. There's a bunch of menu-diving, etc. Granted, it's really flexible (hence the menu-diving), but I think this Boss is aimed more for players that DON'T prefer those all-in-one units. I could be wrong, but that makes sense to me.
@@chadjohnson-authormusician8072 you’re right. I originally wrote a lot more in my original comment regarding the fact that I would be one of those players you’re describing. But at the end of the day, that’s because I’ve put thousands of dollars into my pedalboard and tone over the years (Strymon fan-boy over here lol). At that price-point, one $600 modeler blows my rig away at a literal fraction of the cost.
If you went all mid-tier Boss pedals though, it might be more comparable but then you just have one set of pedals and a nice amount of amp models, whereas the HX stomp still gives you near-infinite numbers of combinations and access to effects you might not be able to afford as an analog pedal.
The pedal sounds really good. Boss has done it again! The Cabronita Thinline looks interesting. What exactly is it?
The Cabronita is a 2 TV Jones pickup telecaster. I have one in gold. Has a 3 way switch and 1 volume knob. Great sounding guitar. Very unique sound for a Tele.
I made a black one with the Powertron Pickups. I love TV Jones in everything they do. @@bks252
So..if I run this into a d.i...I can bypass running a amp?..tryin to get away from lugging a amp
What pick are you using?
Honey Picks!
It's like a Katana in a pedal. Sweet.
The IR-2 is based off of the GT-1000 using AIRD technology, so it’s better than a Katana. The Katana is based off of a GT-100 using COSM tech.
@@plaidretinasthis is a common misconception just because of the sneaky amps.
The Katana uses Tube Logic like the flagship Waza Amp and Blues Cube.
Can you put this pedal in front of a clean fender amp.I imagine you would have to turn off the cab simulators.
Read the manual!!!! geeze!
I spent a few days with mine and sent it back. Not because it wasn't good. It does exactly what it promises. The headphone out is super convenient. Most models sounded good. I didn't care for a few of them but my Vox Tonelab LE sounded better and did almost everything the IR-2 does so it felt redundant to have it. If I didn't have the Vox, the Boss would be a great alternative. I'm really impressed by what Boss does in with such a small enclosure. I tried running the boss amp models with the cab turned off, using my tonelab with the pre-amp turned off and cab models on and it actually sounded better than either unit did on their own.
How did you get one when it hasn't been released yet?
@@thomas79marshall They've had it in stock at my local music store for a while now... not sure what you're talking about.
@@garystackhouse5787 Its set for release on December 16th (in two days time). So no they are not yet available in local music stores.
This highlights a point I’ve been screaming from the mountaintops: all these units from every company are…fine. Despite clickbait-y thumbnails like the one on this video, these modelers have sounded great for years and years
Why zoom in on to show the Brown setting all the time while changing amp models?
The boss house sound : like music coming out of my 1994 PC speakers.
The little Sony's lol 😂
BOSS needs to make this for bass (I'm going it get it exclusively for the svt setting)
It has two footswitchable presets NOT two channels per amp. Both presets can be the same same amp at two seperate settings or two completely different amps
Exactly what i was going to say, how he didn´t get that? RTFM 😅