Excellent video. The gloves were great, I still watch "The Rifleman" on METV a few days a week. My uncle who is still alive (thankfully) used to play NY Yankee minor league baseball and one of his teammates was Chuck Connors. A lot of people may not know that about Chuck Connors.
Got mine in 45 colt for half price because the safety was on when the previous owner tried to shoot it. He thought it was not working and was happy to get rid of it. I love it..tang safety and all!!
I opted for the 357 some time back just love it. I have quite a few leaver guns new and old. Gotta say it was butter smooth right out of the box. Cant wait to see what you come up with for the peep sights I have the same old eye problems.
There are a few options out there. Some are just easier to implement than others. But at the end of the day, whatever it is will have an aperture😀 I'll keep you posted.
Congratulations on your latest addition to the family, George! That is a beautiful rifle. It will be interesting to see if it can take 300 grain variants. If it does reliably, I'm afraid you'll be spending more money on bullets, powder, brass, primers and "reactive" targets. It's a great gun. I have a Skinner aperture rear on mine. I love how that gun handles. It's quite an elegant and wonderful machine. If I didn't have one, I'd have to cry myself to sleep knowing you did. :))) You've chosen wisely.
Great video George. Love those 1892 and 1886 actions and in particular I really like their ejections which really fling out the empties. I have Marlins in 30-30, 45-70, 35 Rem but I find the ejectors on them not as robust but they work good enough when I cycle the guns with authority. I also use peep sights or the irons on them and it can be very surprising how accurate they really can be with practice.
Larry, that is my experience with Marlins as well. Adequate but not as robust at ejecting as the Winchester. As to accuracy with peeps, I posted a video on that subject using calculations to show the actual precision potential. If you haven't seen it, here's the link ua-cam.com/video/z9z6OLG86kU/v-deo.html Btw, Thanks for the comment!
I purchased my new 1892 two weeks ago. I then had to order dies and sizers to load for it, so yesterday, June 23 was ALSO my first shooting. I did not bother to chronograph the 44-40 rounds, just shot steel cowboy targets. Mine is the octogon 24" delux version. I used Unique and powder coated 205gr Mav Dutchman bullets that I cast (that mold is a downsized version of a 45Colt bullet I designed years ago, the PRS. I managed to miss one target on the dueling tree at 50 yards. The front sight is tiny for my older eyes and a change is soon to be. My first 92 and first 44-40. prs
Great video, always love seeing videos of guns I already have! I put the marble's bullseye rear sight with a green hi viz front on my R92 and I was hitting a one inch bullseye at 25 yards seated. They work great! Thanks again for the video!
@@TargetSuite I absolutely do! Unfortunately with ammo prices being ridiculously high, I'm putting range days to a minimum. But glad I got it sighted in from a bench rest when I did. Looking forward to more videos!
She sure sounds smooth on the reload. I have a Rossi Puma in .44 with a short barrel. It’s legal length and swings like a dream. I’m right handed and have a left master
Nice rifle! Loving those slow-mo’s. Buddy of mine has a Miroku 92 trapper takedown deluxe with the case hardening and checkering in 44 mag. Gorgeous rifles.
Hi Billy. Miroku does make some fine rifles. It would be sweet if Marlin would offer a "deluxe" lineup to compete with them. They could charge an extra $100-200 and I think folks would still scoop them up. Thanks for the comment!
At 3:06 you promise melons at the end. Well sir, I watched to the end and all I saw was fruit. I suppose the next time you're going to promise hooters, and shoot nothing but owls. lol Just kidding with you. Like I said earlier, I love the content, and I'm watching this a second time. Awesome stuff!
I have a 94 in .45 Colt. Had to create my own load data, as I couldn't find much for magnum pressure loads! But I will say, with light or heavy bullets (heavy are my favorites) it is a beast!
I'm "prepared" to like it too. Those loads I used in this video were developed for my 1894 but I bought two more pounds in anticipation of the arrival of the '92. Good morning to you as well.
I have a Rossi M92 in stainless iin 45LC. Plan to use it with Buffalo Bore or Lehigh extreme penetrator ammo on deer hunts. I really like the Idea of Stainless, No rust..! Nice little Rifle
Stainless is nice. Especially in the summer when you take cold firearms out of the air conditioned house out into the hot humid air. Good luck this year with your hunting. I've used the Lehigh bullets in a few videos and really like them.
Midway has a Marble tang peep sight #465055 designed for your Winchester 1892. You might also try a red fiber optic front sight, as it's much easier to see with "older" eyes (I'm 71). I use a similar set-up on my Rossi 92 45 Colt, w/24" barrel. I load the 45 Colt with H110 to run similar to 44 Mag speeds. I use the load manual, but my shoulder is my "Chronograph", so I know what my shoulder will allow.
My chrono batteries always fail me when I need them most. Looks like you don't have that problem😄 I've done some digging on that Marble's tang sight. Marble's lists a model for the current Japanese 1886s but not the Japanese 1892s. Lots of folks have commented online that it interferes with the tang safety. Maybe a call to Marble's ? ? ? Btw, I've seen those 30K cup pressure loads for the 45 Colt. Impressive, needless to say.
Love the review! New subscriber to your channel as a result. I have a couple '92s - a .32WCF from 1894 and a .38WCF from 1912 - but would love to have a more recent version. Love all lever guns and the 1892 is certainly no exception. Thanks for the fine video from a fellow Houstonian.
@J. Ringo I might guess you like lever guns :-) I love 'em too, ever since I was a kid. I'm just late to the '92 party, but catching up fast! Thanks for the comment. I've been at the farm so much since the "invasion" that Houston hardly seems like home :-)
I have over 1/2 Dan, 92’s (all calibers) and they all have what they call “Bullseye” sights work the same as traditional Iron sights, fit right into the dovetail slots (sometimes need a lill filing), get them at Cabela’s or Midway for under $20.00. There a circle in a circle (like a bullseye) and work great for aging eyes (60 yrs old here) in fact have over a dozen lever actions and they all carry “Bullseye” sights. In addition on some of my “long distance” shooters, they also have tang sights (no interference). ❤️👍🏼🤠
@Threewolfs 45-70 That's great! I actually ordered one of those from Brownells on a lark, not expecting much. Tracking says it should be here tomorrow. Cant wait to try it out.
Just wanted to let you know, I got the Bullseye sight installed and love it so far. I'm going to post a video in a week or two and talk about it. If it's ok, I would like to mention your channel name in the video.
Target Suite No problem, glade they worked out, I stumbled across them and fell in love, like I said have them on all my levers, love the “Old School” guns (levers & SSA) but hate having to put a scope on them because I can’t see, they just focus my eyes, use them like a Scout Scope, Big circle for quick or up close and then the smaller for distance. And for someone with a lot of levers and limited budget there Great solution. Best of luck. 👍🏼❤️🤠
Marble Arms Bullseye Rear Sight. Brownells has them on back order, but here is a link www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/rifle-long-bullseye-rear-sight-prod105965.aspx
Just discovered your channel this afternoon! Been watching past several hours. New subscriber! Sir. You Rock! Been a lever gun aficionado sense I was a young pup from the Rifle Mans days. By the way. @ 9.50. Love the Auto Drop safety glasses! Got to get me a set! Rowan
Skinner makes a barrel mount peep sight with a larger aperture to compensate for eye relief that works very well. I would call Andy Skinner and see if it works on a Winchester 1892. I had one on a Marlin 1894 and it worked very well.
Target Suite I also have eyesight issues with open sights and have Skinner sights on all my lever rifles. I had the barrel mount sight on my 44. Mag 1894 Marlin. And because I thought I could achieve more accuracy with the rear aperture it was replaced. I saw no real increase in accuracy within 100 yards.
@Anthony Monaco The Skinner website says the barrel mount sight is one of their best sellers. Probably for good reason. I'm considering that for this 1892.
If you could have only one pistol caliber rifle/carbine, would you go with the 357 or the 44? From what I can tell, the 357 seems a little more versatile from small game to deer, and it seems to have a flatter trajectory. What are your thoughts?
I am partial to the 44 Mag if you are thinking about deer hunting. And if the 357 has a flatter trajectory the difference would be measured in millimeters not inches. Big plus would be energy retention at 100 yards. I think the 44 would shine there.
Haha! Yep, more powerful 44 and 45 caliber cartridges have been developed over the last 65 years, but there's a reason this one is still a standout in the crowd.
I've got a 1892 which was originally I believe 32-20 if I remember right but converted to 357 mag. I don't know when it was converted but I've had it since the 70s and I think it was made in the teen's. The first time I shot a 1 gallon Preston bottle filled with water and it ripped it to pieces, it is I would say it's about a 90 % condition and haven't shot it for about 20 years but going to shoot it this year with lighter loads just for the respect of the gun because if their shootable it's an insult to the gun and it's makers to just let it sit there as a wall hanger.Thank You Jake Bissel.
Hi George, I got faith in you, you'll figure out that new camera. Awesome looking 1892 Winchester 20" round barrel. You need a big loop lever then we'll have to call you Lucas Suite. Hehehe. I've got a uberti 1873 Winchester 24" octagonal barrel. It has buckhorn sites my old eyes hate!! So I'm very interested in how you change to aperture. Tang site I'm not to sure of on mine and don't think they will work on a Japanese made Winchester. Great video George look forward to more of that beauty! LoL forgot to tell ya George on my 1873 it's just a blade so I put some white out on it makes it a little easier to pick up,but you said you had a bead on yours don't know if that would work for you. The white out does remove all right.
Thanks Terry. Your confidence is inspiring😀 @Jeff LeBlanc made the suggestion to use orange paint in an earlier comment. I happened to have a florescent orange paint pen in my gun bag so I covered that brass dot. Let me say, the change was remarkable, especially out in the open. Under the roof of the shooting bench it still a little subdued but still, it's better.
I don't actively hunt those buggers but If we cross paths, I will pop as many as I can. We are going to install a new feeder for deer and turkeys. Not so much for hunting as for keeping them around. But I'm pretty sure it will up our opportunities to shoot hogs.
I have a Browning 92 carbine in .357 and it's a great little rifle. Very well made like all the Browning lever action reproductions. I am also fortunate to have a JM made Marlin 94 SS in .357. great patrol rifle when on my land in northern MN. I also carry a .357 sidearm.
another nice video George..i have two lever actions....357 and a 45/70...love them to bits...both of mine have peep sites...makes it a lot easier paper punching...we are still not allowed to shoot yet because of the virus thing....maybe soon I hope...stay well and safe :)
Hi Carl. I'm not sure why my comment didn't post yesterday, but that is great. Let me know what you think once you've got your fingerprints all over it😄
@@TargetSuite I absolutely love this rifle! It is so fun to shoot and it just seems to fit me perfectly when I raise it to my shoulder. It is very very accurate also. I have a Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum as well but I am getting much tighter groups with this Winchester 1892. I love it so much that I am looking for another Winchester 1892 but chambered in 357 magnum. Although I must say that when I used a similar target with a dark bullseye area, it was really hard to pick up that front sight blade. I wonder if there are fiber optic sight options for this rifle?
Hi Don. First of all, thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing. There have been a lot of comments about the Rossi 92. Sounds like a great little rifle. If I had holes drilled and tapped for a receiver sight in my Winchester 92, I would sure get one. But I don't. So while I continue my search for the "perfect" solution, I have replaced the rear buckhorn sight with Marble Arms Bullseye Sight. It made all the difference.
I have the exact same rifle. Same stock. Same caliber. Great to see your videos of it. I put the Marble Arms tang mounted peep sight on it. There is a particular model that clears the tang safety properly. Model number 991035 for the sight base and 995024 for the screw set. I ordered mine from Brownells. I had to get the short range upright (990100) for it after trying the (too tall) standard one that comes with the kit from Brownells. My groups with the peep sight are amazing. With some loads they are as tight as 22LR at 50yd. I can send a picture of the mounted sight it you want.
@AL 500 your tenacity to search through Brownell's or Marble Arms stuff and find a sight that fits the Miroku 1892 is amazing. I can't even find the sight with the model numbers you gave me. Can you send me a link to the sight?
Target Suite yes it’s not easy because Brownells seem to only list a kit of parts and not individual Marble Arms part numbers. I would have purchased from Midway but I had to use Brownells due to export (to Australia) restrictions. Midway USA will be an easier option for you. These links point to all the parts you need. 991035 sight base www.midwayusa.com/product/1005871295 995024 screw kit www.midwayusa.com/product/1005888233?pid=526620 990100 short peep sight post www.midwayusa.com/product/1828615640?pid=615640 The kit that Brownells sells is here: www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/browning-1892-improved-peep-standard-post-prod105970.aspx?psize=96&avs%7cManufacturer_1=MARBLE%2bARMS But it comes with the standard peep sight post. I tried that but the closest I could shoot with it was about 150yd. So I had to then go ahead and order the short peep sight post. I hope that helps.
Wow! You are awesome. I spoke with Marble Arms this morning and he gave me all of the same part numbers except the post. I got the Marble Arms Bullseye rear sight installed last week. I shot with it a little and it seems to work pretty well. I'll keep after that one a little longer. If it doesn't work out, I'll order that set up you sent links to. Thanks for helping out!
You should checkout the mount and red dot that Big Horn Armory uses on its spike driver. Its a hybrid between 1886 and 92. Might work out for you. I looked at i e of the 92s the other day but I have a hard time with 1100.00 for a tang saftey and rebounding hammer. Then I found a 1986 Browning B92 Centennial never fired for 1200.00 so thats the route Im going no lawyered up nonsense on it
I have a couple of the 1892's a 44 magnum and a 44-40. They are great fun to shoot especially the 44-40 with black powder and cast bullets. Excellent groups by the way. Good luck with finding an aperture sight that does not require drilling and tapping the tang. If anyone ever makes an easy to install aperture I will be having two.
@@TargetSuite Got the Marbles sight in this mornings mail. I drifted out the buckhorn and drifted in the Marbles Bullseye. WOW what an improvement. My 67 year old eyes can see the front sight and the target much much better. I have not shot it yet as it is a rainy day here but soon. I expect my groups to tighten up. I will sight it in and let you know how that goes. Installed easily if a person understands drifting dovetail sights as most of us older guys do.
I have Lyman and Marbles tang sights on my Uberti 1873, Chiappa 1886 &1892, They're expensive, or they are here in the UK. They're historically correct and give a very long sight base with phenomenal accuracy, wish I'd fitted them years ago instead of struggling with buck horns. Marbles have windage and elevation adjustment, the Lyman only elevation which means drifting the front sight. The downside is some rifles require a front mounting hole drilled and tapped in the tang, both require slightly longer rear stock bolts supplied separately or with the kit. My 1886 and 1892 already had front mounting holes, the 1873 didn't, relatively easy job when care is taken. Mine was a bitch to drill due to 44 magnum Uberti 1873s have super hard steel receivers. Yours may, or may not be the same.
@@TargetSuite Of course, I forgot about the infernal lawyer tang safety. I tried a Marbles Bullseye sight, fast and fine for beginners but found accuracy inferior to the buckhorn.
Btw, there is a video on UA-cam of someone selling the perfect peep for an 1892 that has a range adjustment. These are all hand made and look to be the "Cat's Meow". I almost bought one for my Rossi 1892 with a 26" barrel in 45 Colt, but they're pricy.... All the Best, Ron
Thanks Eric. Being a "youtuber" looks like a very public thing, but trying to get content out really cuts down on face to face interactions. No complaint, just observation. Nonetheless, kind words like yours are encouraging. Thanks!
Is the side drilled and taped? Lyman or Williams side mount receiver. If not you may consider a Marbles Tang which is fully adjustable or a Lyman Tang which is elevation adjustable only.
It is not drilled and tapped and I'm pretty sure the tang safety is in the way of either the Marbles or Lyman Tang sights. I like the Marble's better than the Lyman so, I'll be calling them today to because they don't list theirs as compatible with the Japanese '92s. Not sure I'll pull the trigger yet on a tang but it is a clean option if it will fit. Thanks!
Morning. Great way as always to end my shift. Beautiful rifle, just beautiful. Your reverse slow mo is getting so good. Oh its me Daniel. Changed name, lest I think it shows my name change, going to be trying something out Any ways great video 👍. Enjoyed it as always.
@@TargetSuite afternoon sir. Any chance you could give me some constructive input on two videos I posted. One was reloading it's like 3 min and other is me talking for 10 min on my views. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Not really any one out were u live that does this. So I'm not sure things like content setting etc or categorys to list stuff under etc. Was going to try Email you but couldn't find how to do that. Lol dont worry I won't stop watching your stuff or unsubscribe if you can't. But if you can that would be greatly appreciated. My wife said follow your dream Dan and iv wanted to do videos for years and frankly it's hard to find work with my skill sets so I'm going all in to try make this my job. Thank you and sorry for long post
Dan I already watched your first video this morning after I saw your channel name change, but with all the comments coming in I couldn't give it a real look. I'll go back and watch both tomorrow. Message me on Instagram with an email or I can give you my phone number if you want to call.
@@TargetSuite I don't have Instagram or even Facebook. I have email and phone for calls and texting. All the online stuff confuses me Ummm. Idk if I should post my email here, seems risky.
Yep. Don't share that here. You can message me through my Patreon account (Target Suite). But you'll have to create your own account first. If you are going to get serious about YT you'll need to do that anyway.
old eyes can be fixed Had cataracts, had to have mine fixed, but I had the doc set them up for distance, after being nearsighted for most of my life, I'm now farsighted. My old 1994 had a hooded front sight, and a buckhorn rear sight. 30 30 caliber, back then I used factory ammo with 180 grn "slivertip" bullets. you can't even get 180 in factory loads these days. However I could easily hit anything within 200 yards or so, maybe up to 300 if things were right. beyond that, I wouldn't even try. Probably could kentucky windage it and make a good shot, but if you did, you have to pack out the deer... I didn't want to pack it any farther than I had to. What do you think the max effective range is with the 44 mag loads? I hope you have a 44 mag pistol to go with it. that was the common thing in the old days, use the same rounds in the saddle rifle and revolver. Only a few would go with a 45 70 or 50 Sharps for a saddle gun... tho they'd be better off if a long shot happened to come up, that wasn't ususally the case. Unless they were lookin for trouble, that is.
My opinion is that even the best 44 Mag loads should be limited to inside 100 yards, maybe even inside 75 yards. And let the record show . . . not yet on the sidearm. But I will be doing a vid in the next month or two featuring my cousin's old, beat up Super Blackhawk.
@@TargetSuite Distanc wise I was referring to my 30 30. 44mag is a pistol load, I would say you're correct, 100 yards would be the maximum for a decent shot, from the rifle. 40 or maybe even 50 from a revolver, depending on barrel length, less for a short barrel. Except for the guys that make the BFR revolvers, you're not going to carry a 3030 revolver for real world use.
Just took possession of my Winchester Miroku 1892 in 44 mag today. Have not shot it yet. No ammo. Have you found any published data for the 44 mag shot from this rifle? Thanks.
I found one load for the Miroku Browning 1892 at Load data dot com and it also calls for W296 with magnum primers. That load is two full grains hotter than maximum charges listed in the Lyman 50th Edition and Modern Reloading 2nd Edition. Keep in mind the Browning '92 has a 1:38 twist where the Miroku Winchesters have 1:26.
Target Suite Are you using pistol loads or rifle loads for the 44. Did find some for rifle, but don’t have any of the powder they call for. And powder in general is in very short supply. PS Don’t have any magnum pistol primers either.
I'm using rifle loads with W296 and magnum primers. I broadened the search in Load Data Dot Com and also found Browning '92 loads using H-4227 and A2400.
Target Suite I’ve since been able to find large and magnum pistol primers and expecting delivery today of Accurate 9, IMR 4227 and WIN 296 for 240 Gr Berry’s Plated Bullets and Speer 240 gr JSP bullets. I’ve already loaded some using H110. Also have some 220 gr Berry’s Plated Bullets. Waiting for delivery of some H CFE Pistol and H Universal to load them with Winchester brass. What’s your favorite bullet for the 44 mag?
I liked the Speer 240's but found a couple of examples where they separates pretty bad in the water jugs. Right now I am using Nosler 240 JSP and a real cool wide flat nose 260 hard cast bullet from Montana bullet works.
I had a Rossi 1892 with the 12" barrel in .44 magnum and sold it on an idea that didn't work out. I really miss it, here in Canada it was a non restricted rifle so I had a full stock on it and it was a sweet little stalking rifle.
TurtleWolf Pack it is legal with the full stock am I right I thought barrel had to be at least 16 inches in Canada Trudeau must go or he will have no gun allowed in Canada stay safe folks
@@jeffleblanc8850 non semi automatics in Canada must be manufactured to have an overall length of 26.2", barrel length doesn't matter. However, semi automatic center fire firearms must have a barrel of 18.5" or longer. We can not cut a barrel to less than 18.5" on any firearm but if they are manufactured shorter they are legal. Rimfires are not dictated by barrel length no matter the action type but we still can not cut a barrel to less than 18.5".
Hi, that's a nice one for sure. Just a question, I've just bought the same Winchester caliber 45 long colt. From your point of view, is it a good choice?
I'm also a big fan of the 92's. I have 3 of them. I grew up watching the same shows you did and at the time as a kid I always thought those rifles were the 94. Later on in life I learned that the guns used in those old shows were actually 92's. and that was the gun I fell in love with. I consider them to be the most beautiful rifle ever made. However I recently acquired a new 1895 Marlin CBA in 45-70 which is the short version of their Cowboy model.. It feels and handles like the 92's but chambered in my favorite cartridge. What is there not to like. I'm working in our church today otherwise I would be out to the range. Beautiful day here. BTW are you seeing any leading issues with those Missouri bullets at 1700-1800 fps?
David, I had the same impression as you, that the "cowboy" rifles were 94s. I took my 92 over to a friend's house last night to show him and we compared it to his US made 94. "Quality" aside, the 92 really shines above the 94. I'm really glad to have one. I'll let you know about the MBC leading. It was terrible in my Marlin 1894, but I traded that rifle to one of my other subscribers for a Ruger 44 Carbine and then bought this 92. I only have a handful of cast bullets through it. If I may ask, where is your beautiful weather? It has been raining for days here in Houston.
@@TargetSuite Have you considered of a tang site? Also, I know you are wanting to really pile them in there but your last groups for a 44 mag lever gun are pretty good as they stand, especially considering its a new acquisition. I don't know why Winchester/ Browning hasn't pre drilled receiver sight holes on the side of the receiver. They did that starting in 1952 or 1953 for the model 94s. My 1957 30-30 is pre drilled . Gun companies need to listen to shooters .
I installed a Marble Arms Bullseye rear sight to replace the buckhorn. But AL 500 sent me links to all the tang sight components at Midway USA. If the Bullseye sight doesn't work out, I'll order the tang sight.
I understand completely. My son bought the '92 in 45 Colt not only because his dad already had the 44 Mag, but because the Colt cartridge can easily be loaded to very mild recoil and report. Thanks for the comment!
You ought to see the high velocity impacts I dig up. I have some Civil War Minie balls that are "blow throughs". The .69 calibers are the size of a .50 cent piece with a hollow center! I have a feeling that soldiers were overloading their muskets. Cheers from Tennessee!
Interesting. We are close to several Civil War hotspots here in Louisiana, so I bought my son a metal detector in hopes we could find some of that history. He's still trying to learn how to "optimize" it so we're not digging up 22 cases and shotgun shells :-)
That is already way better than the 94 with a little more practice probably looking at 1 3/4. If you get a peep 1 inch give or take. For a 44 mag ? That is a little tack driver. And its a beauty.
Thanks! Yes, I was encouraged. I really liked that little Marlin but it just wasn't what I wanted. It went to a good home though. One of my subscribers traded me for his old Ruger 44 Carbine. You'll see that little rifle soon.
Beautiful rifle, George. Is it a real Winchester or a Rossi/Chiappa clone? I have a Rossi Puma '92 clone in .45 Colt. All of my lever-action rifles have Marbles tang peep sights which my 67 yo eyes can acquire very quickly. The bluing and finish on your rifle is beautiful, just like on my Rossi. Another great video from Target Suite.
Hi Roy. It's a Winchester, but purists might argue the "real" designation since it is made in Japan. But the origin doesn't bother me because, as you said, it is beautiful, and well made.
Target Suite all I’ve heard is good about miroku I’ve heard buy a few well know collectors they think these are the best Winchester’s ever made even better than the pre 64
@Jeff Leblanc I think the quality is superb. It's just the infernal additions like the rebounding hammer and tang safety that keep them from being "perfect". Some have major issues with these features. To me they are well executed and not a big distraction.
I think i see a tang safety...that I don't like. I'm very traditional. In my modest opinion the most elegant aperture sight you could mount is the venerable Lyman 98 bolt peep, it was used in the Win.65 ( which is a 92 frame ) , in the 71 and the 64 . An original is outrageously expensive but Pedersoli makes a decent replica for around $100. It requires work on the bolt- a lot- but looks great.
I was not aware of the Lyman 98, or that Pedersoli made sights like that. Thanks! Skinner makes a bolt mounted peep for the 1886 that only requires two holes drilled and tapped. I posted a video about that in October of last year ua-cam.com/video/VkCNQN0HAOc/v-deo.html My hope is that Skinner will eventually develop a similar design that fits on the much shorter 92 bolt. In the mean time, I have installed a simple and very cheap replacement for the buckhorn that so far is proving to be very functional, if a little non-traditional. www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/rifle-short-bullseye-rear-sight-prod27265.aspx
My eyes are getting hard to see the sights too. I bought some Marbles bulleyes rear sights for my Rossi 92. Not sure tho if I'll like them tho. Waiting for them to come
Hello Target Suite! Does this little 92 agree to cycle 44 special? From the 44 special magtech CAS for example. In advance thank you and good luck. Great video. PS: I'm French and I unfortunately speak very little American so excuse me for the clumsiness.
On my Winchester model 1892 in 32-20, I have a Tang mounted Peepsight, I think it’s Lyman number two, but if the receiver was drilled and tapped for a Williams receiver mounted that’s what I would go with, my 90s model 1886 is not drilled and tapped
The Lymans look great. Well built, classic design. I really want a slim bolt mount aperture like on my 1886, but it's looking like that may be hard to pull off on the Miroku '92
Hi Mark. I had been on the waiting list for a new one to show up at the distributors, but found this one o n l i ne and pulled the trigger. Other than "The Issue", I'm not sure why nothing is showing up from the Miroku factory. Good luck and thanks for the comment.
Thank you very much for the video. Is this one of the made in Japan Miroku rifles? I have 2 newer (purchased in 2014) Winchester 1892 "short rifles" in 44 mag, both made in Japan. They have the tang safety and rebounding hammer. I know some people don't like those features, but I do not mind it. My neighbour, whom I trust, loaded me up 240 gr H110 22 gr with magnum primers. Those rounds hit steel HARD out of these guns! The only cartridges it didn't feed were Sellier and Bellot, which seemed to hang up a lot and not want to feed. Go figure! Do you reckon the velocity from a 24" barrel would be greater than the 20", or do you think 20" is about max velocity you're gonna see out of this cartridge? I find a lot of people underestimate 44 mag in a rifle but it seems to really put a hurt on my targets. You can really see how hard it lays waste to targets compared to my Marlin Cowboy in .357 mag.
@Jimmy870 it is a Miroku Winchester. We have three. Two 1892s (the other is in 45 Colt), and an 1886 45-70. Love the Miroku guns! As to barrel length you would get a little more velocity with a longer barrel, but it wouldn't be a dramatic improvement. Regardless, even with your fairly conservative handloads the 44 magnum is a powerful rifle. The video I plan to post this coming Tuesday will be comparing the 44 Magnum (using the 1892) with the 30-30. I hope you'll stop back by and check it out.
How would this rifle compare to the Henry big boy in color case hardened steel receiver? I do believe that you sir, know what you are talking about. Thank you!
Based on what I hear from their passionate followers, the Henry's are great rifles. But my personal experience with Henry rifles is limited to the X Model 45-70 which has a lot of similarity to the Marlin 336/1895 action design. And I can say without hesitation it is an excellent rifle. But what separates my two Miroku made Winchesters from both the Henry's and Marlins is fit, finish, and cost. The Winchesters are more expensive. But I don't think you can go wrong with a Henry if you like the style of those rifles.
@@TargetSuite indeed....I have two (2) Marlins model 336 in 35 rem. And model 1895 classic in 45-70. I guess I was trying to pick your brain about it. I want a 44 mag so I think I will buy one soon....
Buy yourself a bottle of luminous sight paint and just dab the very top of the front sight. You need the slightest amount of that paint that is made specifically for painting your sight and the smallest dab that you can see on the very top of the front sight will improve your groupings tremendously by allowing you to get the finest bead that you can draw into your rear sight. And why are you shooting such heavy bullets? Have you tried shooting anything closer to 180 grain bullets yet? If not you might ry some lighter, faster bullets and it may surprise you to find what a lighter weight bullet can manage to do. Weight is a definite advantage if you can maintain enough speed, but on the other hand weight is also an advantage if you have a heavy enough bullet but you also pick up speed in the process. You might find that a lighter bullet moving a hell of a lot faster will give you a much flatter trajectory and will also enable you to produce a much more accurate grouping and overall better performance at longer ranges. A 180 grain bullet is still a pretty massive chunk of lead to hit anything with.
Thanks for the comment. I did exactly what you suggested and used a fluorescent orange paint pen to touch up the brass bead on the front sight. Huge improvement! I'm just getting started working up loads for the '92 and have everything from 180gr to 300gr. So lots to "play' with.
@@TargetSuite You are welcome. And thanks for telling me. I found your channel to be refreshing and new and I learned something I didn't know before by watching. I have subscribed and will be enjoying your videos. I'll tell you that .45 long Colt is a pretty good round too, I hope I get to see what that Winchester can do with that round also. .44 magnum is also a really potent round. I don't have a long gun chambered in that caliber but I have two .44 magnum handguns in .44 mag. I also have an old Colt army single action in .45 long Colt and it is a brisk shooter also. Looking forward to new videos.
Jeffry Richardson that must be peach pie don’t recall ever having peach pie I’m a Canadian but I like my sugar pie it’s awesome they sell in a lot of eastern provinces wen you go to a restaurant very hard to find cause it sells out so fast
Suggestion: I have a Mossberg 30-30 (Winchester clone) that came with a brass bead. Had a very hard time seeing the front sight in anything but direct sunlight. It would have been useless in the woods past 50 yards. I picked up some fluorescent orange paint and put a nice dab of it on the brass bead (just the bead). Now it stands out even in pretty low light. I have taken deer (nice big Ohio deer) with it out to 130 yards. Off the bench I can group minute-of-deer at 150 …. usually!!??
Hi Tony. Great minds think alike. I got an early suggestion to do that and have already made the addition of fluorescent orange and shot a few mags full. It was a great improvement. Thanks!
I have a Rossi .45 Long Colt mare's leg. It has what I think is the Winchester 92 action. I also have a Pederseli 1886 in 45-70 and that has the 92 action. Wait, is that possible? Can an 1886 have a 92 action? That's what it looks like. Anyway fun video. I never tire of watching watermelons explode as if a granade went off inside.
Hi Stuart. Your Rossi is an 1892 and the Pedersoli is an 1886 Two different designs. If you (carefully) lay the 1892 on top of the 1886 you should see that the 1886 is much larger because it was designed for large rifle cartridges where as the 1892 was a pistol caliber rifle (carbine). I hope this helped.
I only have two lever guns, wishing for more. One in 45LC and the other in 38 only, both Marlins. Do you have any levers other than Winchester ? Do you do any casting of your own bullets and how are or you going to pull the lead bullets, have always had trouble pulling lead ones ?
Hi Nick. I just traded my Marlin 1894 but still have the Marlin 39a I got in the early '60s. I really liked the 1894, but didn't have room right now for to lever gun 44 Mags. I used to cast bullets back in the '70s and '80s but unfortunately sold all that hardware, along with the 100# of Linotype I had scrounged. I would love to get back into that, but UA-cam is such a time hog that adding that to my schedule just wouldn't work. As far as pulling those bullets, I use the cave man approach I have always used the RCBS kinetic hammer. But I found out last night that doesn't work with lead bullets because the powder gets mixed in the grease rings and . . . well it's a mess. I may look into a collet puller for my press.
@@TargetSuite I have a collet puller, it works OK when the bullet is really sitting proud. If you have a tight crimp it has trouble pulling it out. It has a tendency to squeeze and compress the lead in the bullet. I had to send a collet back because it broke trying to tighten on the bullet. If you buy one, buy it on Amazon so if you want to return it you have that option.
Thanks. At least the 300gr Montana Bullet Works bullet has a long flat area to grab. And it is very hard at 22BHN. I'll take your advice and go to Amazon.
Target Suite check out @logcabinlooms and logcabinlooms ghost he has 2 channels and loads all kinds of stuff pours his own lead he’s got so many different caliber and all this stuff he knows a lot he also has a Thompson whitch is quite a good video to watch he’s a different old fellow lives with no hydro like a old homesteader but he does a lot of loading videos check him out I’m sure you all ready have as he’s pretty popular on the channels he has
Thanks. Miroku makes just what you are looking for. But finding one will be tough. Good luck www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-1892/model-1892-current-products/model-1892-large-loop-carbine.html
I have an old Savage in .303 and i can't see anything with the original sights so i put a Marbles tang sight on it and presto i can see again.All my lever-guns will be so equipped unless it's a scope.Nice 92 you have there i have an old Rossi in .45 Colt without the ridiculous rear safety that's getting a Marbles the Lyman tang sight won't work on it so it's going on my 94.
Hi Albert. Aperture sights are just short of a miracle for aging eyes. I wonder how many shooters have just quit because they didn't know how much they helped. With pistols, magnified shooting glasses have done the same thing. I had given up my pistols for 10 years because I couldn't make out the sights. But low power magnified shooting glasses have solved that problem, at least for my eyes which don't need distance correction.
I have been trying to find one of those for years. I have a winchester 94 16in, in 44 mag. I once fondled a marlin 94 16in. 44. Butt have never found another.
I see it cycles but the chambers run a little short. I wonder if factory 240s would chamber. Trying to decide between Marlin ,not micrgroove but ballard or a 92. One I could peep or small scope on other for woos hunting.
I've used Remington and Winchester factory loads with 240gr jacketed bullets with no issues as well as Hornady XTP 240gr, Missouri Bullet Company 200 and 240, and Montana Bullet Works 240 and 260gr bullets in handloads with no cycling/chambering issues in the '92.
So I've had an 1892 Winchester and could never figure out was caliber it is. the numbers are In the 541 So I believe it's from. 1909 but not sure are they worth anything
I like the Henry X and the 44 Mag would serve well, in my opinion, in both scenarios. But you'd have to plan your home defense carefully and pay attention to where your pass-through's might go in your home (or even leaving the home) and pick your bullets with that in mind.
Sorry for the late response, but I finally posted that sight picture on my Instagram page @targetsuite. It's not perfect but I think you'll "get the picture"😉😄
I'm with you Bill. I love Marlin but if you can afford to spend a little more, you can get a much better rifle from Japan. I get the American made thing and just wish Marlin would offer a premium line of their designs with better fit, finish and function. I told someone else in another comment that I think people would line up to by a really nice Marlin 1894 even if it was 20% more expensive.
I have an original Winchester 92 that was built in 1909 that was converted to .357 Mag and a Chiappa 1892 Alaskan in .357 as well. The 92 is a great rifle, no matter how you cut it. Just absolute joys to shoot. Love em
Great video my friend.
Thanks Buffalo! I really appreciate you taking time out to stop by🙂
Excellent video. The gloves were great, I still watch "The Rifleman" on METV a few days a week.
My uncle who is still alive (thankfully) used to play NY Yankee minor league baseball and one of his teammates was Chuck Connors. A lot of people may not know that about Chuck Connors.
I had heard that about "The Rifleman". Great family connection, btw!
@@TargetSuite
Thanks very much. You have a great channel, btw. I'm looking forward to catching up on more of your content. 🙏
Thanks!
Got mine in 45 colt for half price because the safety was on when the previous owner tried to shoot it. He thought it was not working and was happy to get rid of it. I love it..tang safety and all!!
Wow! What a find.
I opted for the 357 some time back just love it. I have quite a few leaver guns new and old. Gotta say it was butter smooth right out of the box. Cant wait to see what you come up with for the peep sights I have the same old eye problems.
There are a few options out there. Some are just easier to implement than others. But at the end of the day, whatever it is will have an aperture😀 I'll keep you posted.
I was surprised how smooth it was also.
Congratulations on your latest addition to the family, George! That is a beautiful rifle. It will be interesting to see if it can take 300 grain variants. If it does reliably, I'm afraid you'll be spending more money on bullets, powder, brass, primers and "reactive" targets. It's a great gun. I have a Skinner aperture rear on mine. I love how that gun handles. It's quite an elegant and wonderful machine. If I didn't have one, I'd have to cry myself to sleep knowing you did. :))) You've chosen wisely.
Haha! Sleep well my friend . . . my own tears are starting to dry now😄
What skinner sight did you use on the 1892? I just bought a new one and the rear sight kinda sucks
Great video George. Love those 1892 and 1886 actions and in particular I really like their ejections which really fling out the empties. I have Marlins in 30-30, 45-70, 35 Rem but I find the ejectors on them not as robust but they work good enough when I cycle the guns with authority. I also use peep sights or the irons on them and it can be very surprising how accurate they really can be with practice.
Larry, that is my experience with Marlins as well. Adequate but not as robust at ejecting as the Winchester. As to accuracy with peeps, I posted a video on that subject using calculations to show the actual precision potential. If you haven't seen it, here's the link ua-cam.com/video/z9z6OLG86kU/v-deo.html Btw, Thanks for the comment!
I purchased my new 1892 two weeks ago. I then had to order dies and sizers to load for it, so yesterday, June 23 was ALSO my first shooting. I did not bother to chronograph the 44-40 rounds, just shot steel cowboy targets. Mine is the octogon 24" delux version. I used Unique and powder coated 205gr Mav Dutchman bullets that I cast (that mold is a downsized version of a 45Colt bullet I designed years ago, the PRS. I managed to miss one target on the dueling tree at 50 yards. The front sight is tiny for my older eyes and a change is soon to be. My first 92 and first 44-40.
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@Rooster I drooled over that Deluxe model for a long time. I really liked the checkering and that looong octagon barrel. You got a good one!
Mine is the 20” round barrel I bought last summer. Hunter supply 200 grain lead and tite group are consistently grouping 1.5” at 50 yds
Great video, always love seeing videos of guns I already have! I put the marble's bullseye rear sight with a green hi viz front on my R92 and I was hitting a one inch bullseye at 25 yards seated. They work great! Thanks again for the video!
Thank you. Don't you love that R92?
@@TargetSuite I absolutely do! Unfortunately with ammo prices being ridiculously high, I'm putting range days to a minimum. But glad I got it sighted in from a bench rest when I did. Looking forward to more videos!
She sure sounds smooth on the reload. I have a Rossi Puma in .44 with a short barrel. It’s legal length and swings like a dream. I’m right handed and have a left master
Eric, I was amazed at how smooth the Miroku 92 was. Very nice looking, but also very well made and tuned. I'm a fan.
Nice rifle! Loving those slow-mo’s.
Buddy of mine has a Miroku 92 trapper takedown deluxe with the case hardening and checkering in 44 mag. Gorgeous rifles.
Hi Billy. Miroku does make some fine rifles. It would be sweet if Marlin would offer a "deluxe" lineup to compete with them. They could charge an extra $100-200 and I think folks would still scoop them up. Thanks for the comment!
Target Suite The new 444 comes in a 150th anniversary trim. It’s beautiful.
I've seen pictures of that rifle. It is really nice and proves that Marlin still has it in them. Now to get their marketing team on board😉
I have this exact same rifle. Kinda similar buying experience. Mine was unfired. Not sure it’s vintage. But man, Miroku is doing a dandy job!
They really are, as you say, dandy. It's a shame that those rifles (and shotguns) get trashed by some.
I wish I still had my Rifleman lunchbox. That thing would be worth some $$$ today.
I think you are right! www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1961-The-RIFLEMAN-Lunchbox-RARE/264691191040?hash=item3da0d30d00:g:hg8AAOSwZrBeiqy3
At 3:06 you promise melons at the end. Well sir, I watched to the end and all I saw was fruit. I suppose the next time you're going to promise hooters, and shoot nothing but owls. lol Just kidding with you. Like I said earlier, I love the content, and I'm watching this a second time. Awesome stuff!
Haha! So when I promised to "feed the deer" and then brought out two giant cans of hominy in today's video you thought . . . what exactly 😄
I have a 94 in .45 Colt. Had to create my own load data, as I couldn't find much for magnum pressure loads! But I will say, with light or heavy bullets (heavy are my favorites) it is a beast!
Loaddata.com has the high pressure loads listed for the 45 Colt, but there is a subscription fee.
Bought my large loop 1892 and a pair of deerskin gloves this March!! Up to season 4 of The Rifleman.
Haha! Another fan! Lucas would be proud!
I put white paint on my front sight bead for deer hunting, helps a lot, especially in low light.
Thanks Dale. I wound up putting bright orange on mine and yes, it helped a lot.
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Dale Rash white out works great
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Always been a big fan of 2400. Works well in all I load from 22 hornet up to 44 mag. Good morning
I'm "prepared" to like it too. Those loads I used in this video were developed for my 1894 but I bought two more pounds in anticipation of the arrival of the '92. Good morning to you as well.
I have a Rossi M92 in stainless iin 45LC. Plan to use it with Buffalo Bore or Lehigh extreme penetrator ammo on deer hunts. I really like the Idea of Stainless, No rust..! Nice little Rifle
Stainless is nice. Especially in the summer when you take cold firearms out of the air conditioned house out into the hot humid air. Good luck this year with your hunting. I've used the Lehigh bullets in a few videos and really like them.
Midway has a Marble tang peep sight #465055 designed for your Winchester 1892. You might also try a red fiber optic front sight, as it's much easier to see with "older" eyes (I'm 71). I use a similar set-up on my Rossi 92 45 Colt, w/24" barrel. I load the 45 Colt with H110 to run similar to 44 Mag speeds. I use the load manual, but my shoulder is my "Chronograph", so I know what my shoulder will allow.
My chrono batteries always fail me when I need them most. Looks like you don't have that problem😄 I've done some digging on that Marble's tang sight. Marble's lists a model for the current Japanese 1886s but not the Japanese 1892s. Lots of folks have commented online that it interferes with the tang safety. Maybe a call to Marble's ? ? ? Btw, I've seen those 30K cup pressure loads for the 45 Colt. Impressive, needless to say.
Love the review! New subscriber to your channel as a result. I have a couple '92s - a .32WCF from 1894 and a .38WCF from 1912 - but would love to have a more recent version. Love all lever guns and the 1892 is certainly no exception. Thanks for the fine video from a fellow Houstonian.
@J. Ringo I might guess you like lever guns :-) I love 'em too, ever since I was a kid. I'm just late to the '92 party, but catching up fast! Thanks for the comment. I've been at the farm so much since the "invasion" that Houston hardly seems like home :-)
Beautiful rifle George! New camera looks good too.
Thanks! It's the new Fujifilm XT-4. Great for video. Not "plug and play" though. It'll take a little work on my part to iron out the kinks.
Great video. Really like the look of the new Winchester/Miroku lever guns. Did you get an aperture sight for this?
Check out the "Winchester 1892 *** Bullseye ***" video. That will answer your question.
I have over 1/2 Dan, 92’s (all calibers) and they all have what they call “Bullseye” sights work the same as traditional Iron sights, fit right into the dovetail slots (sometimes need a lill filing), get them at Cabela’s or Midway for under $20.00. There a circle in a circle (like a bullseye) and work great for aging eyes (60 yrs old here) in fact have over a dozen lever actions and they all carry “Bullseye” sights. In addition on some of my “long distance” shooters, they also have tang sights (no interference). ❤️👍🏼🤠
@Threewolfs 45-70 That's great! I actually ordered one of those from Brownells on a lark, not expecting much. Tracking says it should be here tomorrow. Cant wait to try it out.
Just wanted to let you know, I got the Bullseye sight installed and love it so far. I'm going to post a video in a week or two and talk about it. If it's ok, I would like to mention your channel name in the video.
Target Suite No problem, glade they worked out, I stumbled across them and fell in love, like I said have them on all my levers, love the “Old School” guns (levers & SSA) but hate having to put a scope on them because I can’t see, they just focus my eyes, use them like a Scout Scope, Big circle for quick or up close and then the smaller for distance. And for someone with a lot of levers and limited budget there Great solution. Best of luck. 👍🏼❤️🤠
Threewolfs 45-70 what is the brand name of the “ bulls eye” sight.
Marble Arms Bullseye Rear Sight. Brownells has them on back order, but here is a link www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/rifle-long-bullseye-rear-sight-prod105965.aspx
Just discovered your channel this afternoon! Been watching past several hours. New subscriber! Sir. You Rock! Been a lever gun aficionado sense I was a young pup from the Rifle Mans days. By the way. @ 9.50. Love the Auto Drop safety glasses! Got to get me a set!
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Haha! Thanks for the sub and the kind words!
Skinner makes a barrel mount peep sight with a larger aperture to compensate for eye relief that works very well. I would call Andy Skinner and see if it works on a Winchester 1892. I had one on a Marlin 1894 and it worked very well.
Anthony, I have looked at that sight and it is certainly an option. It's supposed to work with most factory front sights which is a real plus.
Target Suite I also have eyesight issues with open sights and have Skinner sights on all my lever rifles. I had the barrel mount sight on my 44. Mag 1894 Marlin. And because I thought I could achieve more accuracy with the rear aperture it was replaced. I saw no real increase in accuracy within 100 yards.
@Anthony Monaco The Skinner website says the barrel mount sight is one of their best sellers. Probably for good reason. I'm considering that for this 1892.
It's June 14, 2021. You make some really good content, George. I wish I could hit the "Thumbs Up" button again.
Haha! Just don't hit it twice.
I own a 92 and it is a sweet long gun. Enjoyed your video.
Hi Bill. Don't you love the 1892? It's my favorite little gun these days.
Typo on my previous I meant to say peep for 94 angle eject works fine had one on rossi 357.
If you could have only one pistol caliber rifle/carbine, would you go with the 357 or the 44? From what I can tell, the 357 seems a little more versatile from small game to deer, and it seems to have a flatter trajectory. What are your thoughts?
I am partial to the 44 Mag if you are thinking about deer hunting. And if the 357 has a flatter trajectory the difference would be measured in millimeters not inches. Big plus would be energy retention at 100 yards. I think the 44 would shine there.
You had me at 44 Magnum 😀
Haha! Yep, more powerful 44 and 45 caliber cartridges have been developed over the last 65 years, but there's a reason this one is still a standout in the crowd.
Lol,,there's a similar line in a famous movie,,i think tom cruise was in it
Just bought the 92 octagon short rifle made in 2003 in 45 Colt. Looking forward to seeing your son’s rifle put through its paces.
Coming soon. Thanks!
I've got a 1892 which was originally I believe 32-20 if I remember right but converted to 357 mag. I don't know when it was converted but I've had it since the 70s and I think it was made in the teen's. The first time I shot a 1 gallon Preston bottle filled with water and it ripped it to pieces, it is I would say it's about a 90 % condition and haven't shot it for about 20 years but going to shoot it this year with lighter loads just for the respect of the gun because if their shootable it's an insult to the gun and it's makers to just let it sit there as a wall hanger.Thank You Jake Bissel.
Jake, you might have the perfect 92 there. I'm "envious". If you are anywhere close by, I would shoot it for you. That would make for a sweet video😉
Hi George, I got faith in you, you'll figure out that new camera. Awesome looking 1892 Winchester 20" round barrel. You need a big loop lever then we'll have to call you Lucas Suite. Hehehe. I've got a uberti 1873 Winchester 24" octagonal barrel. It has buckhorn sites my old eyes hate!! So I'm very interested in how you change to aperture. Tang site I'm not to sure of on mine and don't think they will work on a Japanese made Winchester. Great video George look forward to more of that beauty!
LoL forgot to tell ya George on my 1873 it's just a blade so I put some white out on it makes it a little easier to pick up,but you said you had a bead on yours don't know if that would work for you. The white out does remove all right.
Thanks Terry. Your confidence is inspiring😀 @Jeff LeBlanc made the suggestion to use orange paint in an earlier comment. I happened to have a florescent orange paint pen in my gun bag so I covered that brass dot. Let me say, the change was remarkable, especially out in the open. Under the roof of the shooting bench it still a little subdued but still, it's better.
This is the video I have been waiting for. I wondered why I didn't see the Ruger . Cool now to enjoy.
Oh, you knew about the Ruger. I forgot😄
Yep . I'm curious which one you'll prefer . Looking forward to it. @@TargetSuite
I forgot to ask if you hog hunt down there or just love to shoot.
I don't actively hunt those buggers but If we cross paths, I will pop as many as I can. We are going to install a new feeder for deer and turkeys. Not so much for hunting as for keeping them around. But I'm pretty sure it will up our opportunities to shoot hogs.
I have a Browning 92 carbine in .357 and it's a great little rifle. Very well made like all the Browning lever action reproductions. I am also fortunate to have a JM made Marlin 94 SS in .357. great patrol rifle when on my land in northern MN. I also carry a .357 sidearm.
A great pair of rifles, Cleon. especially the Browning. Thanks for the comment!
another nice video George..i have two lever actions....357 and a 45/70...love them to bits...both of mine have peep sites...makes it a lot easier paper punching...we are still not allowed to shoot yet because of the virus thing....maybe soon I hope...stay well and safe :)
Wow Mike! That's a bummer. Great rifles and can't get out. I just take too much for granted. Thanks for the comment!
I just ordered one of these fine rifles off of Gun Broker. It will be delivered next week. I can't wait to try it out.
Hi Carl. I'm not sure why my comment didn't post yesterday, but that is great. Let me know what you think once you've got your fingerprints all over it😄
@@TargetSuite I absolutely love this rifle! It is so fun to shoot and it just seems to fit me perfectly when I raise it to my shoulder. It is very very accurate also. I have a Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum as well but I am getting much tighter groups with this Winchester 1892. I love it so much that I am looking for another Winchester 1892 but chambered in 357 magnum. Although I must say that when I used a similar target with a dark bullseye area, it was really hard to pick up that front sight blade. I wonder if there are fiber optic sight options for this rifle?
You asked about aperture sites for a 92. My Chiappa 92 Alaskan take down came with Skinner aperture sights. I am sure you could adapt them.
Thanks Kurt!
Hi. I am a newbe subscriber but old in years. I have a Rossi 92 and put a side receiver mounted unit on mine. I love it.
Hi Don. First of all, thanks for watching, commenting and subscribing. There have been a lot of comments about the Rossi 92. Sounds like a great little rifle. If I had holes drilled and tapped for a receiver sight in my Winchester 92, I would sure get one. But I don't. So while I continue my search for the "perfect" solution, I have replaced the rear buckhorn sight with Marble Arms Bullseye Sight. It made all the difference.
Really want a Miroku made Winchester but can’t find any ammo 😂 Of course, a pre-64 would be preferred but those are selling for a ton
I just bought a pre-64 in 32 Winchester Special. I got mine for about half of what a comparable 30-30 was selling for. Check out the video . . .
I have the exact same rifle. Same stock. Same caliber. Great to see your videos of it. I put the Marble Arms tang mounted peep sight on it. There is a particular model that clears the tang safety properly. Model number 991035 for the sight base and 995024 for the screw set. I ordered mine from Brownells. I had to get the short range upright (990100) for it after trying the (too tall) standard one that comes with the kit from Brownells. My groups with the peep sight are amazing. With some loads they are as tight as 22LR at 50yd. I can send a picture of the mounted sight it you want.
@AL 500 your tenacity to search through Brownell's or Marble Arms stuff and find a sight that fits the Miroku 1892 is amazing. I can't even find the sight with the model numbers you gave me. Can you send me a link to the sight?
Target Suite yes it’s not easy because Brownells seem to only list a kit of parts and not individual Marble Arms part numbers.
I would have purchased from Midway but I had to use Brownells due to export (to Australia) restrictions. Midway USA will be an easier option for you. These links point to all the parts you need.
991035 sight base
www.midwayusa.com/product/1005871295
995024 screw kit
www.midwayusa.com/product/1005888233?pid=526620
990100 short peep sight post
www.midwayusa.com/product/1828615640?pid=615640
The kit that Brownells sells is here:
www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/browning-1892-improved-peep-standard-post-prod105970.aspx?psize=96&avs%7cManufacturer_1=MARBLE%2bARMS
But it comes with the standard peep sight post. I tried that but the closest I could shoot with it was about 150yd. So I had to then go ahead and order the short peep sight post.
I hope that helps.
I also fitted the Marble Arms dovetail blank after I removed the standard buckhorn rear sight.
001187 Marble Arms slot blank no. 87
www.midwayusa.com/product/1005883063?pid=383424
Wow! You are awesome. I spoke with Marble Arms this morning and he gave me all of the same part numbers except the post. I got the Marble Arms Bullseye rear sight installed last week. I shot with it a little and it seems to work pretty well. I'll keep after that one a little longer. If it doesn't work out, I'll order that set up you sent links to. Thanks for helping out!
What about "Williams Fool Proof"? Will they fit the 92? I love them on my 94,
.45 Colt!
Yep. The Williams or Lyman sights are great. Both are under consideration.
You should checkout the mount and red dot that Big Horn Armory uses on its spike driver. Its a hybrid between 1886 and 92. Might work out for you.
I looked at i e of the 92s the other day but I have a hard time with 1100.00 for a tang saftey and rebounding hammer.
Then I found a 1986 Browning B92 Centennial never fired for 1200.00 so thats the route Im going no lawyered up nonsense on it
Edward that is a great price for a Browning 1892. They often go over $2K
I have a couple of the 1892's a 44 magnum and a 44-40. They are great fun to shoot especially the 44-40 with black powder and cast bullets. Excellent groups by the way. Good luck with finding an aperture sight that does not require drilling and tapping the tang. If anyone ever makes an easy to install aperture I will be having two.
Check out this video. Then I think you might just order two :-) ua-cam.com/video/HoMTwOkt4yM/v-deo.html
@@TargetSuite You are right. watched the video and ordered me one to try.
Great! Let me know what you think.
@@TargetSuite Got the Marbles sight in this mornings mail. I drifted out the buckhorn and drifted in the Marbles Bullseye. WOW what an improvement. My 67 year old eyes can see the front sight and the target much much better. I have not shot it yet as it is a rainy day here but soon. I expect my groups to tighten up. I will sight it in and let you know how that goes. Installed easily if a person understands drifting dovetail sights as most of us older guys do.
That's awesome! Keep me posted.
I have Lyman and Marbles tang sights on my Uberti 1873, Chiappa 1886 &1892, They're expensive, or they are here in the UK. They're historically correct and give a very long sight base with phenomenal accuracy, wish I'd fitted them years ago instead of struggling with buck horns. Marbles have windage and elevation adjustment, the Lyman only elevation which means drifting the front sight. The downside is some rifles require a front mounting hole drilled and tapped in the tang, both require slightly longer rear stock bolts supplied separately or with the kit. My 1886 and 1892 already had front mounting holes, the 1873 didn't, relatively easy job when care is taken. Mine was a bitch to drill due to 44 magnum Uberti 1873s have super hard steel receivers. Yours may, or may not be the same.
@85waspnest The tang safety on the Japanese Winchesters is a problem for tang sights. It keeps those rifles from being "perfect"😉
@@TargetSuite Of course, I forgot about the infernal lawyer tang safety. I tried a Marbles Bullseye sight, fast and fine for beginners but found accuracy inferior to the buckhorn.
Good video! I've got a Rossi 1892 in 45 long colt. Kinda wished I would have gotten. 44 mag, but I don't know.
A lot of fun can be had with the 45 Colt!
Isn't the 45 colt very similar to 44 mag?
Great job and video. Enjoying your videos..
Love the encouragement! Thanks so much!
Btw, there is a video on UA-cam of someone selling the perfect peep for an 1892 that has a range adjustment. These are all hand made and look to be the "Cat's Meow". I almost bought one for my Rossi 1892 with a 26" barrel in 45 Colt, but they're pricy.... All the Best, Ron
I'm guessing you are talking about Montana Vintage Arms. They make some incredible stuff. And you are right about pricey. Thanks for the comment!
eye so I love lever guns. Fun to watch your vids. Thanks
Thanks Eric. Being a "youtuber" looks like a very public thing, but trying to get content out really cuts down on face to face interactions. No complaint, just observation. Nonetheless, kind words like yours are encouraging. Thanks!
The Rifleman fan here! Understand the gloves!
Yes! Another Rifleman fan!
Is the side drilled and taped? Lyman or Williams side mount receiver. If not you may consider a Marbles Tang which is fully adjustable or a Lyman Tang which is elevation adjustable only.
It is not drilled and tapped and I'm pretty sure the tang safety is in the way of either the Marbles or Lyman Tang sights. I like the Marble's better than the Lyman so, I'll be calling them today to because they don't list theirs as compatible with the Japanese '92s. Not sure I'll pull the trigger yet on a tang but it is a clean option if it will fit. Thanks!
Nothing like a Winchester,, i love my Whinchester more than any other rifle i own....
Bryant, I believe great minds think alike😄 Thanks for the comment!
@@TargetSuite dang, i just realized i spelled Winchester wrong while ago,, ha haaahh
Wow! You blew that one right by me. Haha!
Morning. Great way as always to end my shift. Beautiful rifle, just beautiful. Your reverse slow mo is getting so good.
Oh its me Daniel. Changed name, lest I think it shows my name change, going to be trying something out
Any ways great video 👍. Enjoyed it as always.
Haha! I recognized your picture Daniel and was wondering if that was you, or did some urban cowboy steal that manly image😄
@@TargetSuite afternoon sir. Any chance you could give me some constructive input on two videos I posted. One was reloading it's like 3 min and other is me talking for 10 min on my views. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Not really any one out were u live that does this. So I'm not sure things like content setting etc or categorys to list stuff under etc. Was going to try Email you but couldn't find how to do that. Lol dont worry I won't stop watching your stuff or unsubscribe if you can't. But if you can that would be greatly appreciated. My wife said follow your dream Dan and iv wanted to do videos for years and frankly it's hard to find work with my skill sets so I'm going all in to try make this my job.
Thank you and sorry for long post
Dan I already watched your first video this morning after I saw your channel name change, but with all the comments coming in I couldn't give it a real look. I'll go back and watch both tomorrow. Message me on Instagram with an email or I can give you my phone number if you want to call.
@@TargetSuite I don't have Instagram or even Facebook. I have email and phone for calls and texting. All the online stuff confuses me
Ummm. Idk if I should post my email here, seems risky.
Yep. Don't share that here. You can message me through my Patreon account (Target Suite). But you'll have to create your own account first. If you are going to get serious about YT you'll need to do that anyway.
Another great video . Ty , Mark south Louisiana
Thanks for your comments. We just got back here to the farm an hour ago. It's good to be back in Louisiana.
old eyes can be fixed Had cataracts, had to have mine fixed, but I had the doc set them up for distance, after being nearsighted for most of my life, I'm now farsighted. My old 1994 had a hooded front sight, and a buckhorn rear sight. 30 30 caliber, back then I used factory ammo with 180 grn "slivertip" bullets. you can't even get 180 in factory loads these days. However I could easily hit anything within 200 yards or so, maybe up to 300 if things were right. beyond that, I wouldn't even try. Probably could kentucky windage it and make a good shot, but if you did, you have to pack out the deer... I didn't want to pack it any farther than I had to. What do you think the max effective range is with the 44 mag loads? I hope you have a 44 mag pistol to go with it. that was the common thing in the old days, use the same rounds in the saddle rifle and revolver. Only a few would go with a 45 70 or 50 Sharps for a saddle gun... tho they'd be better off if a long shot happened to come up, that wasn't ususally the case. Unless they were lookin for trouble, that is.
My opinion is that even the best 44 Mag loads should be limited to inside 100 yards, maybe even inside 75 yards. And let the record show . . . not yet on the sidearm. But I will be doing a vid in the next month or two featuring my cousin's old, beat up Super Blackhawk.
@@TargetSuite Distanc wise I was referring to my 30 30. 44mag is a pistol load, I would say you're correct, 100 yards would be the maximum for a decent shot, from the rifle. 40 or maybe even 50 from a revolver, depending on barrel length, less for a short barrel. Except for the guys that make the BFR revolvers, you're not going to carry a 3030 revolver for real world use.
Just took possession of my Winchester Miroku 1892 in 44 mag today. Have not shot it yet. No ammo. Have you found any published data for the 44 mag shot from this rifle? Thanks.
I found one load for the Miroku Browning 1892 at Load data dot com and it also calls for W296 with magnum primers. That load is two full grains hotter than maximum charges listed in the Lyman 50th Edition and Modern Reloading 2nd Edition. Keep in mind the Browning '92 has a 1:38 twist where the Miroku Winchesters have 1:26.
Target Suite Are you using pistol loads or rifle loads for the 44. Did find some for rifle, but don’t have any of the powder they call for. And powder in general is in very short supply. PS Don’t have any magnum pistol primers either.
I'm using rifle loads with W296 and magnum primers. I broadened the search in Load Data Dot Com and also found Browning '92 loads using H-4227 and A2400.
Target Suite I’ve since been able to find large and magnum pistol primers and expecting delivery today of Accurate 9, IMR 4227 and WIN 296 for 240 Gr Berry’s Plated Bullets and Speer 240 gr JSP bullets. I’ve already loaded some using H110. Also have some 220 gr Berry’s Plated Bullets. Waiting for delivery of some H CFE Pistol and H Universal to load them with Winchester brass. What’s your favorite bullet for the 44 mag?
I liked the Speer 240's but found a couple of examples where they separates pretty bad in the water jugs. Right now I am using Nosler 240 JSP and a real cool wide flat nose 260 hard cast bullet from Montana bullet works.
I had a Rossi 1892 with the 12" barrel in .44 magnum and sold it on an idea that didn't work out. I really miss it, here in Canada it was a non restricted rifle so I had a full stock on it and it was a sweet little stalking rifle.
Oh, the guns we let slip through our fingers! There are several from my own past that I "yearn" for!
@@TargetSuite amen to that.
TurtleWolf Pack it is legal with the full stock am I right I thought barrel had to be at least 16 inches in Canada Trudeau must go or he will have no gun allowed in Canada stay safe folks
Sorry Jeff. I missed your comment. Good luck. It seems guns are increasingly in the cross hairs. Even here!
@@jeffleblanc8850 non semi automatics in Canada must be manufactured to have an overall length of 26.2", barrel length doesn't matter. However, semi automatic center fire firearms must have a barrel of 18.5" or longer. We can not cut a barrel to less than 18.5" on any firearm but if they are manufactured shorter they are legal. Rimfires are not dictated by barrel length no matter the action type but we still can not cut a barrel to less than 18.5".
Hi, that's a nice one for sure. Just a question, I've just bought the same Winchester caliber 45 long colt. From your point of view, is it a good choice?
Hi John. Yes, The 45 Colt 1892 is a great choice. My son has one and it is a blast!
I'm also a big fan of the 92's. I have 3 of them. I grew up watching the same shows you did and at the time as a kid I always thought those rifles were the 94. Later on in life I learned that the guns used in those old shows were actually 92's. and that was the gun I fell in love with. I consider them to be the most beautiful rifle ever made. However I recently acquired a new 1895 Marlin CBA in 45-70 which is the short version of their Cowboy model.. It feels and handles like the 92's but chambered in my favorite cartridge. What is there not to like. I'm working in our church today otherwise I would be out to the range. Beautiful day here. BTW are you seeing any leading issues with those Missouri bullets at 1700-1800 fps?
David, I had the same impression as you, that the "cowboy" rifles were 94s. I took my 92 over to a friend's house last night to show him and we compared it to his US made 94. "Quality" aside, the 92 really shines above the 94. I'm really glad to have one. I'll let you know about the MBC leading. It was terrible in my Marlin 1894, but I traded that rifle to one of my other subscribers for a Ruger 44 Carbine and then bought this 92. I only have a handful of cast bullets through it. If I may ask, where is your beautiful weather? It has been raining for days here in Houston.
I live in Minnesota and in my part of the state it's moderately dry. If you don't mind send some of your rain up our way.
I could send you the last month of rain and it would still be green here. We are waterlogged.☔
You might check the Rossi website, they have some nice peepsights there. Beautiful rifle... "go get 'em Lucas !
Haha! The tang safety is what kills so many otherwise great solutions for the Miroku 1892.
@@TargetSuite Have you considered of a tang site?
Also, I know you are wanting to really pile them in there but your last groups for a 44 mag lever gun are pretty good as they stand, especially considering its a new acquisition.
I don't know why Winchester/ Browning hasn't pre drilled receiver sight holes on the side of the receiver. They did that starting in 1952 or 1953 for the model 94s. My 1957 30-30 is pre drilled . Gun companies need to listen to shooters .
Oops , just saw where you ordered a sight.
I installed a Marble Arms Bullseye rear sight to replace the buckhorn. But AL 500 sent me links to all the tang sight components at Midway USA. If the Bullseye sight doesn't work out, I'll order the tang sight.
@@TargetSuite Sounds like a plan.
Very nice new rifle I look for older all steel Lyman sights on the used market. They work very well for me.
Great idea Craig. I have looked a time or two and the vintage Lyman sights are really sweet.
Target Suite if you do a little shopping you can find a good one and they really do improve my shooting.
Lots of comments about the Lyman sights. High on my list. Thanks!
I'm really trying to avoid the larger caliber ammo. I want to stick to .357m as the largest centerfire with the exception of the 36 cal BP handguns
I understand completely. My son bought the '92 in 45 Colt not only because his dad already had the 44 Mag, but because the Colt cartridge can easily be loaded to very mild recoil and report. Thanks for the comment!
You ought to see the high velocity impacts I dig up. I have some Civil War Minie balls that are "blow throughs". The .69 calibers are the size of a .50 cent piece with a hollow center! I have a feeling that soldiers were overloading their muskets. Cheers from Tennessee!
Interesting. We are close to several Civil War hotspots here in Louisiana, so I bought my son a metal detector in hopes we could find some of that history. He's still trying to learn how to "optimize" it so we're not digging up 22 cases and shotgun shells :-)
great video. I found one Miroku made LNIB with box and papers localy for $1100 is this a good price? thanks
That is already way better than the 94 with a little more practice probably looking at 1 3/4. If you get a peep 1 inch give or take. For a 44 mag ? That is a little tack driver. And its a beauty.
Thanks! Yes, I was encouraged. I really liked that little Marlin but it just wasn't what I wanted. It went to a good home though. One of my subscribers traded me for his old Ruger 44 Carbine. You'll see that little rifle soon.
Beautiful rifle, George. Is it a real Winchester or a Rossi/Chiappa clone? I have a Rossi Puma '92 clone in .45 Colt. All of my lever-action rifles have Marbles tang peep sights which my 67 yo eyes can acquire very quickly. The bluing and finish on your rifle is beautiful, just like on my Rossi. Another great video from Target Suite.
Hi Roy. It's a Winchester, but purists might argue the "real" designation since it is made in Japan. But the origin doesn't bother me because, as you said, it is beautiful, and well made.
Target Suite all I’ve heard is good about miroku I’ve heard buy a few well know collectors they think these are the best Winchester’s ever made even better than the pre 64
@Jeff Leblanc I think the quality is superb. It's just the infernal additions like the rebounding hammer and tang safety that keep them from being "perfect". Some have major issues with these features. To me they are well executed and not a big distraction.
I think i see a tang safety...that I don't like. I'm very traditional. In my modest opinion the most elegant aperture sight you could mount is the venerable Lyman 98 bolt peep, it was used in the Win.65 ( which is a 92 frame ) , in the 71 and the 64 . An original is outrageously expensive but Pedersoli makes a decent replica for around $100. It requires work on the bolt- a lot- but looks great.
I was not aware of the Lyman 98, or that Pedersoli made sights like that. Thanks! Skinner makes a bolt mounted peep for the 1886 that only requires two holes drilled and tapped. I posted a video about that in October of last year ua-cam.com/video/VkCNQN0HAOc/v-deo.html My hope is that Skinner will eventually develop a similar design that fits on the much shorter 92 bolt. In the mean time, I have installed a simple and very cheap replacement for the buckhorn that so far is proving to be very functional, if a little non-traditional. www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/rifle-short-bullseye-rear-sight-prod27265.aspx
pecospest yup .... the tang safety is because of lawyers getting evolved
My eyes are getting hard to see the sights too. I bought some Marbles bulleyes rear sights for my Rossi 92. Not sure tho if I'll like them tho. Waiting for them to come
Thanks Larry. Please let me know what you think.
I have same rifle with Skinner dovetail barrel mount.
Much better for me than marbles bullseye sight.
Thanks Bill. I haven't tried the barrel mount Skinner sights yet.
A Lever Action is all U need ❤👏🏻👍🏻🤠.
A .357 is like a big Brother of the old .30 Carbine Cartridge imo.
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Hello Target Suite!
Does this little 92 agree to cycle 44 special?
From the 44 special magtech CAS for example.
In advance thank you and good luck.
Great video.
PS: I'm French and I unfortunately speak very little American so excuse me for the clumsiness.
Great question. I understood you perfectly. The '92 with easily cycle 44 special ammunition.
@@TargetSuite
Super !
Thank you so much for this good news.
Very good continuation.
On my Winchester model 1892 in 32-20, I have a Tang mounted Peepsight, I think it’s Lyman number two, but if the receiver was drilled and tapped for a Williams receiver mounted that’s what I would go with, my 90s model 1886 is not drilled and tapped
The Lymans look great. Well built, classic design. I really want a slim bolt mount aperture like on my 1886, but it's looking like that may be hard to pull off on the Miroku '92
I've been looking for one..thank you
Hi Mark. I had been on the waiting list for a new one to show up at the distributors, but found this one o n l i ne and pulled the trigger. Other than "The Issue", I'm not sure why nothing is showing up from the Miroku factory. Good luck and thanks for the comment.
Thank you very much for the video. Is this one of the made in Japan Miroku rifles? I have 2 newer (purchased in 2014) Winchester 1892 "short rifles" in 44 mag, both made in Japan. They have the tang safety and rebounding hammer. I know some people don't like those features, but I do not mind it. My neighbour, whom I trust, loaded me up 240 gr H110 22 gr with magnum primers. Those rounds hit steel HARD out of these guns! The only cartridges it didn't feed were Sellier and Bellot, which seemed to hang up a lot and not want to feed. Go figure! Do you reckon the velocity from a 24" barrel would be greater than the 20", or do you think 20" is about max velocity you're gonna see out of this cartridge? I find a lot of people underestimate 44 mag in a rifle but it seems to really put a hurt on my targets. You can really see how hard it lays waste to targets compared to my Marlin Cowboy in .357 mag.
@Jimmy870 it is a Miroku Winchester. We have three. Two 1892s (the other is in 45 Colt), and an 1886 45-70. Love the Miroku guns! As to barrel length you would get a little more velocity with a longer barrel, but it wouldn't be a dramatic improvement. Regardless, even with your fairly conservative handloads the 44 magnum is a powerful rifle. The video I plan to post this coming Tuesday will be comparing the 44 Magnum (using the 1892) with the 30-30. I hope you'll stop back by and check it out.
Taylor & Company makes a sight for the 1892 Alaskan takedown that may work. Front sight is a red fiber optic.
I think that is just a standard Skinner sight that mounts to one of the flats on the octagonal barrel. Were you thinking about a different sight?
How would this rifle compare to the Henry big boy in color case hardened steel receiver? I do believe that you sir, know what you are talking about. Thank you!
Based on what I hear from their passionate followers, the Henry's are great rifles. But my personal experience with Henry rifles is limited to the X Model 45-70 which has a lot of similarity to the Marlin 336/1895 action design. And I can say without hesitation it is an excellent rifle. But what separates my two Miroku made Winchesters from both the Henry's and Marlins is fit, finish, and cost. The Winchesters are more expensive. But I don't think you can go wrong with a Henry if you like the style of those rifles.
@@TargetSuite indeed....I have two (2) Marlins model 336 in 35 rem. And model 1895 classic in 45-70. I guess I was trying to pick your brain about it. I want a 44 mag so I think I will buy one soon....
Good luck John. Rifles are tough to come by these days, especially the Winchesters. I got lucky on mine.
Buy yourself a bottle of luminous sight paint and just dab the very top of the front sight. You need the slightest amount of that paint that is made specifically for painting your sight and the smallest dab that you can see on the very top of the front sight will improve your groupings tremendously by allowing you to get the finest bead that you can draw into your rear sight. And why are you shooting such heavy bullets? Have you tried shooting anything closer to 180 grain bullets yet? If not you might ry some lighter, faster bullets and it may surprise you to find what a lighter weight bullet can manage to do. Weight is a definite advantage if you can maintain enough speed, but on the other hand weight is also an advantage if you have a heavy enough bullet but you also pick up speed in the process. You might find that a lighter bullet moving a hell of a lot faster will give you a much flatter trajectory and will also enable you to produce a much more accurate grouping and overall better performance at longer ranges. A 180 grain bullet is still a pretty massive chunk of lead to hit anything with.
Thanks for the comment. I did exactly what you suggested and used a fluorescent orange paint pen to touch up the brass bead on the front sight. Huge improvement! I'm just getting started working up loads for the '92 and have everything from 180gr to 300gr. So lots to "play' with.
@@TargetSuite You are welcome. And thanks for telling me. I found your channel to be refreshing and new and I learned something I didn't know before by watching. I have subscribed and will be enjoying your videos. I'll tell you that .45 long Colt is a pretty good round too, I hope I get to see what that Winchester can do with that round also. .44 magnum is also a really potent round. I don't have a long gun chambered in that caliber but I have two .44 magnum handguns in .44 mag. I also have an old Colt army single action in .45 long Colt and it is a brisk shooter also. Looking forward to new videos.
I appreciate your comments. Lord willing, more videos are coming . . . Usually on Tuesday.
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Perhaps you should consider a dab of red or orange paint on the front sight?
I used orange. It made a huge difference, especially if there is a little light behind the shooter. Thanks!
Suggestion: I have a Mossberg 30-30 (Winchester clone) that came with a brass bead. Had a very hard time seeing the front sight in anything but direct sunlight. It would have been useless in the woods past 50 yards. I picked up some fluorescent orange paint and put a nice dab of it on the brass bead (just the bead). Now it stands out even in pretty low light. I have taken deer (nice big Ohio deer) with it out to 130 yards. Off the bench I can group minute-of-deer at 150 …. usually!!??
Hi Tony. Great minds think alike. I got an early suggestion to do that and have already made the addition of fluorescent orange and shot a few mags full. It was a great improvement. Thanks!
I have a Rossi .45 Long Colt mare's leg. It has what I think is the Winchester 92 action.
I also have a Pederseli 1886 in 45-70 and that has the 92 action. Wait, is that possible? Can an 1886 have a 92 action? That's what it looks like. Anyway fun video. I never tire of watching watermelons explode as if a granade went off inside.
Hi Stuart. Your Rossi is an 1892 and the Pedersoli is an 1886 Two different designs. If you (carefully) lay the 1892 on top of the 1886 you should see that the 1886 is much larger because it was designed for large rifle cartridges where as the 1892 was a pistol caliber rifle (carbine). I hope this helped.
I only have two lever guns, wishing for more. One in 45LC and the other in
38 only, both Marlins. Do you have any levers other than Winchester ?
Do you do any casting of your own bullets and how are or you
going to pull the lead bullets, have always had trouble pulling lead ones ?
Hi Nick. I just traded my Marlin 1894 but still have the Marlin 39a I got in the early '60s. I really liked the 1894, but didn't have room right now for to lever gun 44 Mags. I used to cast bullets back in the '70s and '80s but unfortunately sold all that hardware, along with the 100# of Linotype I had scrounged. I would love to get back into that, but UA-cam is such a time hog that adding that to my schedule just wouldn't work. As far as pulling those bullets, I use the cave man approach I have always used the RCBS kinetic hammer. But I found out last night that doesn't work with lead bullets because the powder gets mixed in the grease rings and . . . well it's a mess. I may look into a collet puller for my press.
@@TargetSuite Thanks, I know what you mean with powder getting stuck
on the bullet. Selling 100# of Linotype made me cringe !! :-))
@@TargetSuite I have a collet puller, it works OK when the bullet is really sitting proud.
If you have a tight crimp it has trouble pulling it out. It has a tendency
to squeeze and compress the lead in the bullet. I had to send a collet
back because it broke trying to tighten on the bullet. If you buy one,
buy it on Amazon so if you want to return it you have that option.
Thanks. At least the 300gr Montana Bullet Works bullet has a long flat area to grab. And it is very hard at 22BHN. I'll take your advice and go to Amazon.
Target Suite check out @logcabinlooms and logcabinlooms ghost he has 2 channels and loads all kinds of stuff pours his own lead he’s got so many different caliber and all this stuff he knows a lot he also has a Thompson whitch is quite a good video to watch he’s a different old fellow lives with no hydro like a old homesteader but he does a lot of loading videos check him out I’m sure you all ready have as he’s pretty popular on the channels he has
Nice! I want one but with a big loop lever! Thanks
Thanks. Miroku makes just what you are looking for. But finding one will be tough. Good luck www.winchesterguns.com/products/rifles/model-1892/model-1892-current-products/model-1892-large-loop-carbine.html
I have an old Savage in .303 and i can't see anything with the original sights so i put a Marbles tang sight on it and presto i can see again.All my lever-guns will be so equipped unless it's a scope.Nice 92 you have there i have an old Rossi in .45 Colt without the ridiculous rear safety that's getting a Marbles the Lyman tang sight won't work on it so it's going on my 94.
Hi Albert. Aperture sights are just short of a miracle for aging eyes. I wonder how many shooters have just quit because they didn't know how much they helped. With pistols, magnified shooting glasses have done the same thing. I had given up my pistols for 10 years because I couldn't make out the sights. But low power magnified shooting glasses have solved that problem, at least for my eyes which don't need distance correction.
I have a Brownie 92b 357 and I love it.
Sweet!
Very Nice Video. Thanks For Sharing.
I haven't noticed you in the comments before. Thanks for checking out my channel, and thanks for the comments!
very good accuracy what is the twist rate of that rifle
Hi Andy. The twist rate is 1:26, much faster than the Marlins which is 1:38.
I have been trying to find one of those for years. I have a winchester 94 16in, in 44 mag. I once fondled a marlin 94 16in. 44. Butt have never found another.
Scotty, the Miroku Winchesters are out there, just not in great numbers. A friend just sent me pics of a couple of them at a gun store in Shreveport.
How about octagon barrel and buckhorn sights.
Octogon Barrel . . . Yes! Buckhorn sights . . . not so much😉
Is the trigger crisp like the old browning 92s, or sloppy like a factory marlin?
It's pretty crisp, but a little heavy. My son's 1892 has a great trigger. Neither of them are sloppy. Thanks!
@@TargetSuite jealous!
The Japanese Winchesters have that effect😄
Nice classic sleek design. I hope the make a stainless trapper all weather model in 454 casull.
I asked my son about converting his to 454 Casull. His wife said not if it costs money😄
George if you have a minute, does this 92 Short rifle cycle factory 240 without issue as far as feeding ?
No feeding issues at all. It will even cycle 300gr WFNGC lead bullets, just not fully chamber them.
@@TargetSuite Thanks
I see it cycles but the chambers run a little short. I wonder if factory 240s would chamber. Trying to decide between Marlin ,not micrgroove but ballard or a 92. One I could peep or small scope on other for woos hunting.
I've used Remington and Winchester factory loads with 240gr jacketed bullets with no issues as well as Hornady XTP 240gr, Missouri Bullet Company 200 and 240, and Montana Bullet Works 240 and 260gr bullets in handloads with no cycling/chambering issues in the '92.
@@TargetSuite Awesome . Thats good to hear. Thanks George. Looking foward to your next video.
So I've had an 1892 Winchester and could never figure out was caliber it is. the numbers are In the 541 So I believe it's from. 1909 but not sure are they worth anything
If it is in decent condition, I think your 1892 will have some value. But I'm not an expert on those older Winchesters, so I can't quantify that.
I just ordered 2, 1892’s with 24” barrels
Sounds like fun times ahead. What calibers did you get?
Nice rifle!
Thanks James. Yes. The Miroku Winchesters are both classic and very well made, probably better than the originals.
That thing is a beauty.
It really is. Thanks for the comment!
Hi George Iam thinking of buying a Henry x in 44mag for home defense n deer
I like the Henry X and the 44 Mag would serve well, in my opinion, in both scenarios. But you'd have to plan your home defense carefully and pay attention to where your pass-through's might go in your home (or even leaving the home) and pick your bullets with that in mind.
@@TargetSuite thank you 👍
Can you please describe what the proper sight picture looks like with buckhorn sights?
I'll do better than that. Tomorrow I'll post a picture on my Instagram page. Will that work?
@@TargetSuite Can you please provide your instagram address? Keep up the good content. Thx Will
@targetsuite. Thanks
Sorry for the late response, but I finally posted that sight picture on my Instagram page @targetsuite. It's not perfect but I think you'll "get the picture"😉😄
@@TargetSuite thank you. Going to the range tomorrow. Will work on it. Look forward to your new videos.
Hi what is the barrel length on your 92, l have a short rifle with a 20” barrel in 44 mag,
Mine is also a short rifle . . . 20" barrel. How do you like yours?
I like the rifle a lot, also have a 94 in 30-30 win 20” barrel and a 1885trapper in 45-70 gov, I think Miroku makes very good Guns.
I'm with you Bill. I love Marlin but if you can afford to spend a little more, you can get a much better rifle from Japan. I get the American made thing and just wish Marlin would offer a premium line of their designs with better fit, finish and function. I told someone else in another comment that I think people would line up to by a really nice Marlin 1894 even if it was 20% more expensive.
Target Suite While Remington and their overseers have a hand in Marlin there is no chance of Marlin improving, I forgot to mention love your channel.
Thanks Bill!
I have an original Winchester 92 that was built in 1909 that was converted to .357 Mag and a Chiappa 1892 Alaskan in .357 as well. The 92 is a great rifle, no matter how you cut it. Just absolute joys to shoot. Love em
I agree, and couldn't have said it any better. An absolute joy!