Imagine you are wheeled into Azkaban with a Hannibal style face mask, your character gazing into the camera as if you’re next…and then it fades to credits.
I never used the curses in the presence of anyone but Sebastian because I would feel guilty but I expected that poppy would react the worst out of everyone lol
If you know Poppy's past you realize she's probably used to people casting unforgivable curses around her. And Sebastian.. well he's Sebastian! He's the Top G!
My nephew and I were talking about that. Avada Kedavra seems more humane to me. It kills instantly whereas freezing them, slicing them, and then blowing them up is not very humane at all. T
This though. I used Accio to pull an enemy towards me, above a cavern; then used descendo to slam them straight down. Avada Kedavra seems like the mercy route at this point lmao
Unforgivable magic is a no go but freezing someone with glacius and blowing them up with bombarda or transforming them into an explosive barrel and tossing them at another killing both is A okay.
This was exactly my thought. I was playing as a Gryffindor and trying to be a good guy, but then I realized I’m already killing folks left and right I might as well learn the unforgivable curses.
@@killercroc9138 Ended up in Slytherin, and honestly, same tbh. The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with using Avada Kedavra, considering it's a quick and painless death as opposed to what you give your enemies frequently throughout the game. Not crazy for Crucio or Imperio, but Avada Kedavra seems acceptable enough.
this tbh, they trying to brand it as something evil when we've already been *defeating* (killing) enemies left and right before we even learn crucio LOL
Because it's the intent that matters, the other spells you mention arent made for the purpose of killing someone, sure you can, and if you do they will send you to azkaban, but the unforgivables are made for dark purposes only, like crucio really? A spell made to torture people? Of course it's unforgivavable, but that doesn't mean you won't go to askaban for torturing people with other spells asell. Avada kedavra is made for killing people only, and you have to WANT to kill someone for it to work. Of course they will send you to azkaban for murdering people with other spells to, but avada kedavra spell is unforgivable because it's made to kill period. Imperio the same thing, controlling you against your will? That's some sick thing and i'm sure we wouldn't want people in our society to be able to control us against our will in any circomstance. Even against criminals.
I thought that was awesome. You basically yell all the other spells but the big 3 is like a devious, hate filled, almost under your breath tone. You KNOW what you're doing when you say it, its evil, and it feels... goooood. 😈
@@BigDanGaming Love this video. I was thinking along the same lines, especially in regards to how odd it is that the dialogue options allows the player to play Sebastian and Ominis against each other by saying 'I stand by Sebastian in wanting to help him find a cure for his sister despite letting him teach me the curses', but at the same time, the player can say that they are trying to stop him by siding. with Ominis despite trying to stay as a good guy.
Pretty sure I got another line too! A bit hard to hear over surrounding noise but I think it was something along the lines of "Have my teachings meant nothing to you?!"
You'd think he wouldn't care, considering his quote early in the game of "Magic is no different than any power. What really matters is the one who wields it." Dark magic is no different from light magic. It's on the one who uses those "Unforgivable Curses"
Maybe another game would give us good/bad system like in Red Dead Redemption. Imagine bunch of aurors showing up after using Crucio on some random wizard.
That’s literally my only qualm with the game, it could have been a near perfect experience with a morality system. Hopefully one gets introduced with dlc but seems unlikely
@@michaelparker3373 Maybe in next game when we're gonna play adult wizard. Let's not forget that everyone(including Albus) really didn't do antything with Voldemort when he was a student and already lost his mind and was balls deep into dark Magic.
@@OlovelTwix I don’t think that’s true, I’m sure all of his mentors tried to steer him away from dark magic, Dumbledore especially. But power is as addictive as any drug, the more you dabble with it the harder it is to get away from it. Not to mention he already had a dark predisposition.
@@warlockwod the witcher 3 barely had any choice in it at all but i don't see anyone complaining Hell literally almost every jrpg barely has branching storylines
their is actually one long term affect, if you use dark magic a couple if times in fights enemies throughout the rest of the game get lines like “ive heard about you, youre one of the few who use the dark arts” or “so youre the one who uses the dark arts”
I mean, given Ominis' backstory, I totally get it. His upbringing was child abuse and it involved being forced to cast crucio as a child on muggles, and when he declined they cast it on him until he did it... which he eventually did to escape the pain. Yeah, he has a right to pretend that thing doesn't exist.
@@rozirosandi1414 The woman that sells you the haunted Hogsmeade shop had a similar line. But I honestly can't recall if you can use Unforgivables on her.
@@PauloVLopes you could before but after the last update you can't anymore which is lame and annoying and no fun also last time I remember it didn't 1 shit her it took 1 bar of health of her
@@msvinegarchip4368 Talent upgraded Crucio and AK are the most OP combo in the game. Use Crucio and spread the curse on all enemies and then cast AK to insta kill 3 trolls + 5 goblins.
To be fair, if anyone should be allowed to use the unforgivable curses, it's our main character. I mean, they're basically wizard Jesus. Also, ancient magic comes so naturally to them that they can raise a wand and vaporize an enemy instantly with a lightning bolt. Before I could even disarm my opponent, I could lift him 20 ft in the air and give him the ol space jam come on and slam
Poppy Sweetings reaction is appropriate for a passive aggressive doormat. She notices it, and she wants you to notice her noticing it so you'll empathetically understand that she wants you to stop, without ever actually challenging you about it.
Saddest part is the bosses near the end of the game ignore avada kadavra. They get blasted to zero health, but then go in a QTB event or cutscene where they are alive either way.
Combat overall bothers me a lot, because it's in Harry Potter world and in my head the "do not kill" is a default setup for me. It was so important in the books, but in Legacy you run around killing people and animals every 10 minutes or so.
But that was just harry and dumbledore. Harry can be seen as Jesus and Dumbledore as Death/God. Its no secret the franchise has a lot of references to Christianity and their morals.
Ominis sounds more concerned than disapproving. Tho the phrase about regretting using Crucio is really goody-two-shoes vibe. But combat ones are more in the lines of: "hope you don't kill yourself and me" and "others may think you're crazy".
To be fair, Ominis was tortured by his family and forced to use the curse when he was only a child. Which means that, since the curses are tied to intention, he had to basically destroy his own self and the values that he staked his identity on. Guess all that left him with quite a bit of trauma rather than a "goody two shoes."
Also his family is all products of a few decades of cousins marriage to make sure they could all speak parceltongue. They all speak it exclusively inside thier house. So that's why ominous is blind he was inbreed and got a incest trait and caused him to be born blind
Minecraft: Human-traffick and then enslave a bunch of villagers for books that let your tools be renewed before they can break, and turn mob spawner dungeons into torture chambers to mass-murder said mobs Stellaris: Genocide or BE genocided Hogwarts legacy:
If there are no consequences for the sake of story narrative, maybe they can add a reputation bar like in red dead redemption, where casting curses darkens your morality
I was also thinking along the lines of Oblivion, where NPCs will make comments based on your morality. We do get a little bit of that here, but it'd be kind of neat if you walked by your classmates and overheard rumors about yourself and how good or evil you are!
they should've implemented that INTO the story narrative, but they were just too lazy - or incapable - to do that. instead we got platforming and merlin trials. incredibly undwerwhelming.
I think what would be cool is if they send Aurors after you, and if you keep using the unforgiveable curses then they send more and harder Aurors until they take you down..
I could have misheard over the repeated and overlapping spell name castings, but I could swear during one of my battles with Poppy, after I casted Imperio on an enemy she went and attempted Avada Kedavra on them. I could be wrong but the enemies were spiders/bog toads or whatever so it wasn't them saying it.
Didn't they say there will be no moral system? I still think it's a good idea to add one, but only if you use unforgivable curses in front of those companions who disapprove it.
@@sabnock31 well they are expanding the map with dlcs so eventually they will have to address it so it makes sense that maybe post uprising use could cause issues unless your smart that could be cool as like harry using unforgivable curses it is perfectly allowed during war time if your on the winning side
None of this would be added to the game at any point. You think they would add completely different mechanics in dlc or update? Thats crazy. Maybe in sequel.
if there is a Hogwarts Legacy 2, I'd like to get the element as the InFamous. The best of that game is that you can become either the hero or the villain depending on your actions. The more bad things you do, the villain meter will rise up to the point that you become the infamous. The end of the story also depend on what road you take.
It's a great RPG... from a company not exactly known for AAA rpgs. First attempt, and they made it a good one. This should easily set them up to get DLCs (which could add in a morality system), and very likely mean a sequel (which also could have a morality system).
The Cruciatus Curse seems to get retconned alot, If I remember right, when it was first used in Goblet of Fire, it didn't shoot out a red effect, it just made the victim wince and squirm in agonizing pain.
Part of me likes that it doesn't affect the story line but part of me wishes It had been a little more involved like a red dead 2 kind of system honorable and dishonorable.
It would be interesting if the more you used dark magic the more you could see it affecting you and possibly locking you out from more "Honourable" paths/ choices. As in, the more you Crucio people, the more it forces you down that dark path as it is supposed to "Change you".
Just a few changes would’ve made a true corruption arc possible: If most of your friends bail because you use dark magic, you‘re locked out of future quests with them, but you unlock the option to agree to work with Victor Rookwood when he approaches you toward the end. The gameplay in those final quests could remain mostly unchanged, the keepers and professors unaware of the alliance, but more cutscenes with Rookwood would be added, ending with the two of you in Azkaban or facing an end like Isadora’s (so the canon future would remain as we know it).
technically the companions aren't companions but just side quest ones where they accompany you for their quest line. Wished you could choose your companions to bring alongside you.
Crucio is probably horrible, and Imperio pretty bad indirectly, but with Avada Kedavra it's pretty much over immediately. The red spells, however...has to be just as painful as Crucio. And still they teach them to children with a smile on their faces.
I can't make myself use the curses in front of my classmates besides Sébastien, it's kinda a fun challenge, forcing myself to not use my powerful dark magic to turn the tide in combat.
It would be more fun if using said curses changed your character (splitting the soul and all) - your appearance but also locking you out from some "good" dialog options and so on.
Never liked the idea of locked dialogue. It removes your freedom to RP, it could forcefully lead you to being a Chaotic Evil for example or irrational evil acts just for the sake of being evil and leads you to feel that your character is dumb and evil just because, without being smart and so on. I had that exp with other games and it's bad design imo.
One of my favorite responses to Crucio happens when you're fighting Ashwinders. Sometimes, if you use Crucio, someone will go "Crucio?!" They're so surprised that this young Hogwarts student is using an Unforgivable curse and I love it.
Right On!!! I like how in almost all of these hogwarts walk through, where to find stuff, how to get past this part videos. When they pop up the quest menu the “man in the moon” or what ever it is called. The quest to find all the moon stones, is still there. Thought I was the only one who couldn’t find them all.
Yeah, people seems to be bewitched (pun intended) with the game and doesnt realise it's a bad RPG. No consequences for your actions and choices doesnt really matter at all.
@@warlockwod Not everyone wants those things in their RPG. Being a Wizard/Witch and using a wand is all many players care about. The game is made for them.
Actually the Order of the Phoenix video game had a mechanic like that. If you attacked other students, it had consequences. E.g. you could try attacking McGonagall and it would cause a cutscene.
Big Dan, we all love you and your massive work you were doing so far, covering all little RPG aspects and outcomes. Starting with your without a doubt legendary Mass Effect videos series.
I will say I wish that the relationship questlines were more individualized and unique based on which path you take. Also wish there were like 3 other "unforgivable spell-tier spells" that correspond more towards the light/good side. It would be cool if you have to pick a side, good/bad. With 3 different "green-tier spells" spells on each side.
@@AKA_Keegs I wouldn't necessarily say using one makes you evil. Harry wasn't above using them (although that Could have been the influence of the horcrux) but you wouldn't say Harry is evil, would you? Intent behind the spell matters. What you're using it for is important.
@AgentK1000 exactly. McGonagall used Imperio flawlessly on death eaters as well. She's definitely not evil. In one of my playthroughs I learned the curses (as a nerdy ravenclaw I felt it was my duty too haha) but imposed on myself not using them.
I'm choosing a moral middle-ground with the Unforgivable Curses. I'm learning them, but I'm not eager to use them. Honestly, I'm hoping there's a hidden trophy for learning them, but I'm not holding my breath if there isn't one.
The only time that I use them is mainly for enemies that overwhelm me. It’s a last resort kind of thing for me. I don’t enjoy swinging it around Willy nilly, only when absolutely necessary.
When you throw down with the old Witch who sells you the haunted shop using an unforgivable curse; she will ask accusingly "What are they teaching students at that school!?"
After turning dozens of poachers into chickens and then taking them to my vivarium (a mod allows me to bring regular animals to my vivariums), I realized it would have been kinder to avada kadavra them, probably
I liked that they didn't make it a big deal because it doesn't make any sense that these specific spells are Unforgivable. There are spells that can blow people up, slice them, set them on fire. Love potion, many spells that can probably cause pain.
except that spells that can cause harm are not soley used to do so "burn this" is not a spell meant to physically char someone to death when you can use it to warm yourself in a cold climate or unfreeze shit "torture" the spell has no use besides causing harm same with "kill" and the "remove free will" spell
when i used crucio on the last couple of goblin fights in my first playthru, fig said something like "let's not do that here, yeah?" so he doesn't say *nothing*
I'm glad there's no consequence other than your companions getting annoyed. I'm roleplaying as a Ravenclaw who, while being ultimately good and helping others around him whenever they need him, is near obsessed with perfecting his magic. In the early game, the professors hammer into you that you have all this talent and owe it to yourself to perfect your craft, and when you do the side content and learn spells from them, they praise you for that hard work, and Professor Fig also makes it clear multiple times that because you have all of these powers, you need to train them and maximize that potential. As such, my character will take all of that to heart, and make full use of any resource available to him, including the incredible versatility of curses. He is a Ravenclaw obsessed with knowledge to utilize the incredible power he's been given, but wishes to do so in order to help and save his friends and defeat the bad guys, leaving nothing to chance. With this kind of narrative in mind, typical morality consequences that deal with things in a black and white manner would likely punish this kind of nuanced morally grey character, and now I don't have to deal with it and can play my character my way XD
I think people should overlook using unforgivable curses on dark wizards or evil people in general. Is it really wrong if you only use those spells on evil people who deserve it? Sounds like justice by giving them a taste of their own medicine to me.
How they handled dark magic in this game does remind me of how they handle blood magic in dragon age 1 and 2 when it came to game play versus plot elements, basically f$$$ all.
Not true. Dragon Age: Origins had strong consequences for defiling the Urn of Sacred Ashes (among other things, you had to kill two of your companions), which you had to do to unlock the specialization.
@Kai , No, that was particular to that particular event and unlocking the reaver specialization. What I was referring to was being able to use blood magic during game play like during a major event like the landsmeet of all things, with representatives of the chantry in plain view no less, and basically not saying a d$$$ thing when you use blood wound on Logian.
Funny, how my character never learned any of the curses but she’s still a 15 year old schoolgirl who killed more people than Lara Croft did in her last trilogy of games 😜😜
I used, I can't remember if it was Crucio or Aveda Kadavera when all the professors joined in with the troll and I swear I heard Prof Sharp say, "where did you learn that spell !! "
Yeah, that whole talk about the player being able to freely use the dark arts without consequence because "we wanted to let the player be evil if they wanted" is a load of obvious BS. It's just a simple excuse for what really is them not wanting to have to implement it in a way that would actually make sense. Truth is, you cannot be evil in this game. Period. For somebody to be evil they must be considered evil by others, morality is subjective after all. Does the game treat you like you're evil if you kill people with the instant death spell? Do the characters treat you any different except for a meaningless remark? Nope. No matter how many acts of evil you commit from the player's point of view, from the game's point of view you're always the hero of the story and nothing else. Which is totally fine by the way, I just don't like the devs pretending it's anything else other than this and using flimsy excuses. They could've just said that they made it like this because, otherwise, it would've taken them too long to make it work properly and that would be perfectly understandable. They wanted to have the unforgivable curses in the game and were willing to compromise on the immersion to let the players play around with them, that's perfectly understandable. "it's this way because we wanted to let players be evil without consequences"? Get outta here with that crap...
always wanted to know what makes dark magic inherently evil. Does it cause you to become more cruel? or do people just hate it because they're damaging spells? Because I dunno about you but I don't like the idea of being set on fire or being blasted away with bombarda anymore than I like the idea of being electrocuted with crucio.
The difference is you have to mean it. Crucio? You want to inflict suffering. Avada Kedavra? You want them dead. Sure, you can brutally murder without it, but pretty much every spell has some utility. Kinda like banning assault weapons versus chainsaws. Both do massive damage, but one is designed to kill, the other is just a tool used as a brutal weapon. Imperio? ... Both my Ravenclaw and me agree that I don't really get this one. Whatever way you make inferi seems like the better choice for the three unforgiveables. I guess you recognize necromancy from the beginning, but Imperio just means a guilty person may actually be completely innocent. Then you have your main attack spells. Diffindo? Basically a magic machete. Incendio and confringo? Useful firestarters, and remember that normal people can't create the deadly ring of murder fire and fire shrapnel. Bombarda? I think this one might legitimately just be a weapon spell, but more for beasts like the startling number of trolls in the area. You're basically killing with a hunting rifle designed to take down wild firetrucks.
I would have loved if you used dark magic and they send you Azkaban after the credits 😂
secret ending
Imagine you are wheeled into Azkaban with a Hannibal style face mask, your character gazing into the camera as if you’re next…and then it fades to credits.
only illegal if you get caught and none of your companions seem to be snitches
Unless you're too powerful they can't, become the ultimate power and just die of old age at some point.
Then have a DLC where you go full evil after learning how to control Dementors with Ancient Magic.
Returning from Azkaban with an army.
Poppy doesn't really judge you for using Unforgivables and Sebastian is straight up proud of you. Best companions yet.
The most based people at hogwarts
I never used the curses in the presence of anyone but Sebastian because I would feel guilty but I expected that poppy would react the worst out of everyone lol
@@spacechimp3199I think it’s because she only cares about animal cruelty
@@user-wh5fj6pj6m yeah she’s got a Vendetta
If you know Poppy's past you realize she's probably used to people casting unforgivable curses around her. And Sebastian.. well he's Sebastian! He's the Top G!
With the stuff you can do with your ancient magic I feel at times Avada Kedavra is more ethical
My nephew and I were talking about that. Avada Kedavra seems more humane to me. It kills instantly whereas freezing them, slicing them, and then blowing them up is not very humane at all. T
@@benseac or turning them into a barrel any throwing them at someone lol or setting them up to be a chicken for the rest of there life
@@curtisjeffress I love turning them into an explosive powderkeg! It's so brutal! And completely disrespectfull :D
This though. I used Accio to pull an enemy towards me, above a cavern; then used descendo to slam them straight down. Avada Kedavra seems like the mercy route at this point lmao
@@curtisjeffress I got a kick out of turning poachers into chickens though who knows if it’s permanent. I like to think it is lol
Unforgivable magic is a no go but freezing someone with glacius and blowing them up with bombarda or transforming them into an explosive barrel and tossing them at another killing both is A okay.
Or use ancient magic to inplode our foes😂 allways good👍🏼
This was exactly my thought. I was playing as a Gryffindor and trying to be a good guy, but then I realized I’m already killing folks left and right I might as well learn the unforgivable curses.
@@killercroc9138
Ended up in Slytherin, and honestly, same tbh. The way I see it, there's nothing wrong with using Avada Kedavra, considering it's a quick and painless death as opposed to what you give your enemies frequently throughout the game. Not crazy for Crucio or Imperio, but Avada Kedavra seems acceptable enough.
this tbh, they trying to brand it as something evil when we've already been *defeating* (killing) enemies left and right before we even learn crucio LOL
Because it's the intent that matters, the other spells you mention arent made for the purpose of killing someone, sure you can, and if you do they will send you to azkaban, but the unforgivables are made for dark purposes only, like crucio really? A spell made to torture people? Of course it's unforgivavable, but that doesn't mean you won't go to askaban for torturing people with other spells asell. Avada kedavra is made for killing people only, and you have to WANT to kill someone for it to work. Of course they will send you to azkaban for murdering people with other spells to, but avada kedavra spell is unforgivable because it's made to kill period. Imperio the same thing, controlling you against your will? That's some sick thing and i'm sure we wouldn't want people in our society to be able to control us against our will in any circomstance. Even against criminals.
1:40 "Ominis, the angel on Sebastian's shoulder"
couldn't have described him better 😌
I like how when the player uses crucio, their voice deepens and sound spiteful. Really highlights the hate behind the spell.
same to avada
@@muzanjackson8827 I wish I could just scream unintelligible words like Voldemort does for avidi kidivi
@@Li_Mn Well, in actual aramaic it's pronounced differently (like Avra Kedarva or something) so it might work
I thought that was awesome. You basically yell all the other spells but the big 3 is like a devious, hate filled, almost under your breath tone.
You KNOW what you're doing when you say it, its evil, and it feels... goooood. 😈
ominis did say that you have to want to hurt some for crucio to work properly so its very fitting thats reflected
Heck, go further back, to Dragon Age: Origins, and your companions would try to kill you if you performed acts of absolute evil.
True, brother
@@BigDanGaming Love this video. I was thinking along the same lines, especially in regards to how odd it is that the dialogue options allows the player to play Sebastian and Ominis against each other by saying 'I stand by Sebastian in wanting to help him find a cure for his sister despite letting him teach me the curses', but at the same time, the player can say that they are trying to stop him by siding. with Ominis despite trying to stay as a good guy.
The good old days 😂
As lord popo once said bitch don’t tell me what to do
I know, they're so overdramatic 😒
I actually did get a line from professor Fig. He said "Let's not travel down that path if we can afford it."
Yeah that’s the same line I got
Pretty sure I got another line too! A bit hard to hear over surrounding noise but I think it was something along the lines of "Have my teachings meant nothing to you?!"
You'd think he wouldn't care, considering his quote early in the game of "Magic is no different than any power. What really matters is the one who wields it." Dark magic is no different from light magic. It's on the one who uses those "Unforgivable Curses"
I got that line as well. I wish every possible character had a dialogue after seeing one.
I got a line from one of the poachers. I think they said "how dare you...."
I love how fun it is to use the unforgivable curses but I really wish the devs implemented a good wizard, evil wizard distinction
Maybe another game would give us good/bad system like in Red Dead Redemption. Imagine bunch of aurors showing up after using Crucio on some random wizard.
No one did it better then Infamous. Maybe we got a Hogwarts Legacy 2 adult wizard out in London could be good or evil
That’s literally my only qualm with the game, it could have been a near perfect experience with a morality system. Hopefully one gets introduced with dlc but seems unlikely
@@michaelparker3373 Maybe in next game when we're gonna play adult wizard. Let's not forget that everyone(including Albus) really didn't do antything with Voldemort when he was a student and already lost his mind and was balls deep into dark Magic.
@@OlovelTwix I don’t think that’s true, I’m sure all of his mentors tried to steer him away from dark magic, Dumbledore especially. But power is as addictive as any drug, the more you dabble with it the harder it is to get away from it. Not to mention he already had a dark predisposition.
They are called the Unforgivable Cruses yet everyone seems to forgive you for using them. RIP
Yet people are praising an RPG for having no consequences for your actions and branching paths. Go figure
They are unforgivable... by the person on the landing side of the curse. 🤷🏻♂️
@@warlockwod Some people disliked Dishonoured for having a character call out evil actions the player took.
Sad to see games be stifled in such a way.
@@warlockwod the witcher 3 barely had any choice in it at all but i don't see anyone complaining
Hell literally almost every jrpg barely has branching storylines
@@TheEFedsAreComin what exactly does a 8 year old game and a completely different genre have to do w/ Hogwarts Legacy?
I used the Killing Curse on the horde of poachers in Poppy's last quest, and her reaction was basically "Meh, they deserved it."
I like to imagine that all hufflepuffs are secretly evil af.
She reacted the same with Crucio
their is actually one long term affect, if you use dark magic a couple if times in fights enemies throughout the rest of the game get lines like “ive heard about you, youre one of the few who use the dark arts” or “so youre the one who uses the dark arts”
"Any words you want me to pass on to your mom"
"I can think of one word"
"what"
"Crucio"
That had me dying
Avada Kedavra
@@garethalford682 Two words, mate
@@redstinger0966 any words you want me to pass on to your mom
I was like yeah this
Crucio
@@redstinger0966 then Avda kadva I prefer to have a little fun with them first then kill them
@@Nathanrichards1370 Wow
I mean, given Ominis' backstory, I totally get it. His upbringing was child abuse and it involved being forced to cast crucio as a child on muggles, and when he declined they cast it on him until he did it... which he eventually did to escape the pain. Yeah, he has a right to pretend that thing doesn't exist.
I wish I could hug that kid.
He is so hurt to be a descendant of Salazar Slytherin.
The best is using aveda kedavera on Victor Rookwood in the story battle near the end. His response is gold "Where did you learn that?!"
when i fought victor, he said like "what did you learn at hogwarts these day?" then i cast "avada kedavra" on him
@@rozirosandi1414 The woman that sells you the haunted Hogsmeade shop had a similar line. But I honestly can't recall if you can use Unforgivables on her.
@@PauloVLopes you could before but after the last update you can't anymore which is lame and annoying and no fun also last time I remember it didn't 1 shit her it took 1 bar of health of her
@@PauloVLopes
No you can't
God knows how much I tried to avada kedrava that woman as a repay for the jumpscare on the fastidio quest
Can I just say, the way the player character says Crucio is really badass...
I love the way they say it so much, gotta be like 1/3 of the reason I cast it and the sick ass sfx adds to it too
Hell yeah i thought that too. He says it with pain like if that makes sense. So badass 10/10
@@Blusmj The sfx for crucio really drives in the pain you're inflicting, such great work by the devs
That’s why it’s the only unforgivable I use, and it’s arguably the worst one 😅
@@msvinegarchip4368 Talent upgraded Crucio and AK are the most OP combo in the game. Use Crucio and spread the curse on all enemies and then cast AK to insta kill 3 trolls + 5 goblins.
Enemy: "How dare you use an unforgivable curse on me!!"
Most sane Hogwarts student: "Do you want me to use another one on you?"
Player: *CRUCIO!*
Professor Fig: Oh, he’s still standing! *DEPULSO!*
To be fair, if anyone should be allowed to use the unforgivable curses, it's our main character. I mean, they're basically wizard Jesus. Also, ancient magic comes so naturally to them that they can raise a wand and vaporize an enemy instantly with a lightning bolt. Before I could even disarm my opponent, I could lift him 20 ft in the air and give him the ol space jam come on and slam
Poppy Sweetings reaction is appropriate for a passive aggressive doormat. She notices it, and she wants you to notice her noticing it so you'll empathetically understand that she wants you to stop, without ever actually challenging you about it.
I like Poppy 😥
Don't be mean to my wife
Poppy Sweetings is Best Girl. Change my mind
Like a true Hufflepuff
Pretty none of the companions challenge you besides being shocked.
Saddest part is the bosses near the end of the game ignore avada kadavra.
They get blasted to zero health, but then go in a QTB event or cutscene where they are alive either way.
Which bosses would that be?
@@eslin2845 Harlow and Victor.
@@jefthereaper I was like com on Victor do you think your Harry potter
How are you still alive
Combat overall bothers me a lot, because it's in Harry Potter world and in my head the "do not kill" is a default setup for me. It was so important in the books, but in Legacy you run around killing people and animals every 10 minutes or so.
That's something that breaks my immersion since killing Rookwood seems like it was a big deal to the protagonist.
But that was just harry and dumbledore.
Harry can be seen as Jesus and Dumbledore as Death/God.
Its no secret the franchise has a lot of references to Christianity and their morals.
Big Dan is secretly a sith lord who's convincing us to go to the dark side on each game LOL
LOL💀 I want to go on the dark side anyways
Ominis sounds more concerned than disapproving. Tho the phrase about regretting using Crucio is really goody-two-shoes vibe. But combat ones are more in the lines of: "hope you don't kill yourself and me" and "others may think you're crazy".
To be fair, Ominis was tortured by his family and forced to use the curse when he was only a child. Which means that, since the curses are tied to intention, he had to basically destroy his own self and the values that he staked his identity on. Guess all that left him with quite a bit of trauma rather than a "goody two shoes."
Also his family is all products of a few decades of cousins marriage to make sure they could all speak parceltongue. They all speak it exclusively inside thier house. So that's why ominous is blind he was inbreed and got a incest trait and caused him to be born blind
I also like how you bring out the darkness in games that seem harmless
Minecraft: Human-traffick and then enslave a bunch of villagers for books that let your tools be renewed before they can break, and turn mob spawner dungeons into torture chambers to mass-murder said mobs
Stellaris: Genocide or BE genocided
Hogwarts legacy:
Poppy's defense would be "as long as it doesnt hurt the animals, im ok with it"
If there are no consequences for the sake of story narrative, maybe they can add a reputation bar like in red dead redemption, where casting curses darkens your morality
I was also thinking along the lines of Oblivion, where NPCs will make comments based on your morality. We do get a little bit of that here, but it'd be kind of neat if you walked by your classmates and overheard rumors about yourself and how good or evil you are!
they should've implemented that INTO the story narrative, but they were just too lazy - or incapable - to do that. instead we got platforming and merlin trials. incredibly undwerwhelming.
Voldemort gonna look like Gandhi after I am done with this game
😂
I think what would be cool is if they send Aurors after you, and if you keep using the unforgiveable curses then they send more and harder Aurors until they take you down..
"if you use killing curse i wont work with you anymore" okay. uses transfiguration and toss that explosive barrel into another enemy.
I could have misheard over the repeated and overlapping spell name castings, but I could swear during one of my battles with Poppy, after I casted Imperio on an enemy she went and attempted Avada Kedavra on them. I could be wrong but the enemies were spiders/bog toads or whatever so it wasn't them saying it.
Poppy doesn't care because she's probably using them on the poachers when she's on her own. She's not as sweet as her name implies.
They deserve it.
Actually when I used crucio in the part leading up to the boss fight, Professer fig said “Best not to go down that Path right now”
Ominis: If you use Crucio you will regret it forever
Narrator: NO REGRETS
Got a laugh out of me
sure, like repeatedly smacking a person to the ground until their brain spill out is a cleaner death than an Insta-death spell. whatever game.
aside from quidditch hopefully a moral system, online pvp or more spells will be added in the future the game has potential tbh
Probably DLC this game has so much ways to add to it I could see twenty years of plans for dlc with this game
Didn't they say there will be no moral system? I still think it's a good idea to add one, but only if you use unforgivable curses in front of those companions who disapprove it.
@@sabnock31 well they are expanding the map with dlcs so eventually they will have to address it so it makes sense that maybe post uprising use could cause issues unless your smart that could be cool as like harry using unforgivable curses it is perfectly allowed during war time if your on the winning side
that would require redoing a lot of stuff, they're can't just stick it in there and hope for the best. It ain't happening.
None of this would be added to the game at any point. You think they would add completely different mechanics in dlc or update? Thats crazy. Maybe in sequel.
3:44 "Any special words ya wan me to pass on to your mum?"
Me: Only two. AVADA KADAVRA!
if there is a Hogwarts Legacy 2, I'd like to get the element as the InFamous. The best of that game is that you can become either the hero or the villain depending on your actions. The more bad things you do, the villain meter will rise up to the point that you become the infamous. The end of the story also depend on what road you take.
It's a great RPG... from a company not exactly known for AAA rpgs. First attempt, and they made it a good one. This should easily set them up to get DLCs (which could add in a morality system), and very likely mean a sequel (which also could have a morality system).
The Cruciatus Curse seems to get retconned alot, If I remember right, when it was first used in Goblet of Fire, it didn't shoot out a red effect, it just made the victim wince and squirm in agonizing pain.
I don’t think it ever had a visual effect in the movies. They likely just added the red lightning in the game to give it more distinction
“Bust out the fun spells”💀😂
Part of me likes that it doesn't affect the story line but part of me wishes It had been a little more involved like a red dead 2 kind of system honorable and dishonorable.
It would be interesting if the more you used dark magic the more you could see it affecting you and possibly locking you out from more "Honourable" paths/ choices. As in, the more you Crucio people, the more it forces you down that dark path as it is supposed to "Change you".
How is it OK to kill your opponent using a regular spell 10 times, but bad to finish the same job using 1 spell?
10 times = showing mercy
1 time = no mercy shown
Or using ancient magic to completely obliterate them🤣 which I would say is just as bad as Avada.
Absolute power corrupts-absolutely.
@@ivanvallejo1011 how is it showing mercy when you throw exploding barrel on them?
It's like comparing shooting someone in the face, vs punching someone against a wall. One is clearly more deadly than the other.
Just a few changes would’ve made a true corruption arc possible: If most of your friends bail because you use dark magic, you‘re locked out of future quests with them, but you unlock the option to agree to work with Victor Rookwood when he approaches you toward the end. The gameplay in those final quests could remain mostly unchanged, the keepers and professors unaware of the alliance, but more cutscenes with Rookwood would be added, ending with the two of you in Azkaban or facing an end like Isadora’s (so the canon future would remain as we know it).
technically the companions aren't companions but just side quest ones where they accompany you for their quest line. Wished you could choose your companions to bring alongside you.
Crucio is probably horrible, and Imperio pretty bad indirectly, but with Avada Kedavra it's pretty much over immediately. The red spells, however...has to be just as painful as Crucio. And still they teach them to children with a smile on their faces.
I can't make myself use the curses in front of my classmates besides Sébastien, it's kinda a fun challenge, forcing myself to not use my powerful dark magic to turn the tide in combat.
I’m so glad that you’re playing this game. Can’t wait to see more videos
It would be more fun if using said curses changed your character (splitting the soul and all) - your appearance but also locking you out from some "good" dialog options and so on.
I like the idea of a morally gray character using Dark Magic. But that's more for any magic system
as like Renegade in Mass effect games makes your face have red glowing scars
Never liked the idea of locked dialogue. It removes your freedom to RP, it could forcefully lead you to being a Chaotic Evil for example or irrational evil acts just for the sake of being evil and leads you to feel that your character is dumb and evil just because, without being smart and so on. I had that exp with other games and it's bad design imo.
One of my favorite responses to Crucio happens when you're fighting Ashwinders. Sometimes, if you use Crucio, someone will go "Crucio?!" They're so surprised that this young Hogwarts student is using an Unforgivable curse and I love it.
1:46 OMG a Slytherin descendant telling someone off for using dark magic? How times have changed…
Right On!!! I like how in almost all of these hogwarts walk through, where to find stuff, how to get past this part videos. When they pop up the quest menu the “man in the moon” or what ever it is called. The quest to find all the moon stones, is still there. Thought I was the only one who couldn’t find them all.
*Casts Crucio on an Inferi*
Ominis: "Do you know what you're doing?"
Now that's an excellent question
I like how poppy is super nice and caring, but is totally fine watching you torture people to death
Poppy was such a great character, completely dead set on her motive to help animals but doesn’t judge others for how they complete that task.
She should react differently if you use an unforgivable on a creature.
I used Crucio while practising a new spell from professor weasley. And she didn't even noticed it.
i swear i heared something like "i heard you're using dark arts, im not afraaid of you" or something like that
i wished there was counter meter on screen just like splinter cell double agent which fills the bars of dark wizard or Aurora based on your choices .
There are really no consequence on what ever to choose. Even when the quest requires/ suggest you go stealth but instead go out wands blazing.
Yeah, people seems to be bewitched (pun intended) with the game and doesnt realise it's a bad RPG. No consequences for your actions and choices doesnt really matter at all.
@@warlockwod Not everyone wants those things in their RPG. Being a Wizard/Witch and using a wand is all many players care about. The game is made for them.
@@Ishmachiah that's fine, it would still make it a bad rpg
Having a cutscene when the Headmaster or a professor is screaming at you for doing it would be halarious
I was so sure that using dark magic would somehow corrupt us and provide an unsatisfying ending
Actually the Order of the Phoenix video game had a mechanic like that. If you attacked other students, it had consequences. E.g. you could try attacking McGonagall and it would cause a cutscene.
The problem with your "companions" in this game is that they're not really companions they're NPCs that are assigned to you for a mission
I love how when you use crucio your characters voice has some hatred in their voice i always get chills amazing voice acting
Prof. Fig will actually respond to the use of Dark Magic in the final section of the game. He says "Let's not go down THAT route now, shall we?"
Big Dan, we all love you and your massive work you were doing so far, covering all little RPG aspects and outcomes. Starting with your without a doubt legendary Mass Effect videos series.
“How DARE you use that on me!” after I imperio enemies as if I know who they are lol
I will say I wish that the relationship questlines were more individualized and unique based on which path you take. Also wish there were like 3 other "unforgivable spell-tier spells" that correspond more towards the light/good side. It would be cool if you have to pick a side, good/bad. With 3 different "green-tier spells" spells on each side.
@@AKA_Keegs I wouldn't necessarily say using one makes you evil. Harry wasn't above using them (although that Could have been the influence of the horcrux) but you wouldn't say Harry is evil, would you? Intent behind the spell matters. What you're using it for is important.
@AgentK1000 exactly. McGonagall used Imperio flawlessly on death eaters as well. She's definitely not evil. In one of my playthroughs I learned the curses (as a nerdy ravenclaw I felt it was my duty too haha) but imposed on myself not using them.
I’m god you talked about Fig cause I figured he’d be real upset about it, but nope dude was just chilling
Didn't even realize this was a Big Dan video. Got even another flashbang as I see you use a clip from FluffyNinjaLlama's fallout video.. good video!
The way the player whispers curcio after the mom comment this dude wants all the smoke to the point where he is willing to make his own
I'm choosing a moral middle-ground with the Unforgivable Curses. I'm learning them, but I'm not eager to use them.
Honestly, I'm hoping there's a hidden trophy for learning them, but I'm not holding my breath if there isn't one.
The only time that I use them is mainly for enemies that overwhelm me. It’s a last resort kind of thing for me. I don’t enjoy swinging it around Willy nilly, only when absolutely necessary.
@@spencertang5155 I love it
Same here. I only want to learn them in the game to use them as a last resort
Ok goody two shoes 🤓
@@Wandasolosurfavs how can I be a goodie to shoes ?
When you throw down with the old Witch who sells you the haunted shop using an unforgivable curse; she will ask accusingly "What are they teaching students at that school!?"
Best part about those voice lines is that you can't even hear them during the combat lmao.
After turning dozens of poachers into chickens and then taking them to my vivarium (a mod allows me to bring regular animals to my vivariums), I realized it would have been kinder to avada kadavra them, probably
I liked that they didn't make it a big deal because it doesn't make any sense that these specific spells are Unforgivable. There are spells that can blow people up, slice them, set them on fire. Love potion, many spells that can probably cause pain.
except that spells that can cause harm are not soley used to do so
"burn this" is not a spell meant to physically char someone to death when you can use it to warm yourself in a cold climate or unfreeze shit
"torture" the spell has no use besides causing harm same with "kill" and the "remove free will" spell
It is more than just that. They are banned for a reason. What they supposed to do, allow everything.
I used it on a quest with Fig and he responded, "Let's not go down that path right now," or something along those lines.
Poppy: i see someone else isn't afraid of using the unforgivables
MC *double takes*
10/10 have been waiting for SOMEONE to do a video on this since early access
They use dark magic on isadora with no consequences
I thought you where going to use avada kerdarva 3:47
On the last mission of the game, Fig will comment, “Please don’t go down that path.” Something like this
3:46 litterally me 30mins earlier testing my new crucio in the same place at the same time😂
when i used crucio on the last couple of goblin fights in my first playthru, fig said something like "let's not do that here, yeah?" so he doesn't say *nothing*
I remember one time i was fighting some poachers and one of them said "i hope you're not doing anything "unforgivable" "
Love your videos thank you
Love the video it was fun!
I'm glad there's no consequence other than your companions getting annoyed. I'm roleplaying as a Ravenclaw who, while being ultimately good and helping others around him whenever they need him, is near obsessed with perfecting his magic. In the early game, the professors hammer into you that you have all this talent and owe it to yourself to perfect your craft, and when you do the side content and learn spells from them, they praise you for that hard work, and Professor Fig also makes it clear multiple times that because you have all of these powers, you need to train them and maximize that potential. As such, my character will take all of that to heart, and make full use of any resource available to him, including the incredible versatility of curses. He is a Ravenclaw obsessed with knowledge to utilize the incredible power he's been given, but wishes to do so in order to help and save his friends and defeat the bad guys, leaving nothing to chance.
With this kind of narrative in mind, typical morality consequences that deal with things in a black and white manner would likely punish this kind of nuanced morally grey character, and now I don't have to deal with it and can play my character my way XD
I think people should overlook using unforgivable curses on dark wizards or evil people in general. Is it really wrong if you only use those spells on evil people who deserve it? Sounds like justice by giving them a taste of their own medicine to me.
How they handled dark magic in this game does remind me of how they handle blood magic in dragon age 1 and 2 when it came to game play versus plot elements, basically f$$$ all.
Hate that, put consequences for that shit
Not true. Dragon Age: Origins had strong consequences for defiling the Urn of Sacred Ashes (among other things, you had to kill two of your companions), which you had to do to unlock the specialization.
@Kai , No, that was particular to that particular event and unlocking the reaver specialization. What I was referring to was being able to use blood magic during game play like during a major event like the landsmeet of all things, with representatives of the chantry in plain view no less, and basically not saying a d$$$ thing when you use blood wound on Logian.
Blood magic was sooooo good lol
@Tedeus , Until of course; you ran into undead or golems, and if you didn't have another means of offense, you were just up to creek without a boat!
1:29 "I do not like it when you use EXPELLIARMUS!!!" 🤣
Thanks for this. was afraid to use it, even afraid to learn the curse from the beginning. good to know it doesn't matter.
the male mc sounds so much more dark when he says crucio. I love it
Fig doesn't fk around. He is brutal himself when fighting
Funny, how my character never learned any of the curses but she’s still a 15 year old schoolgirl who killed more people than Lara Croft did in her last trilogy of games 😜😜
I used, I can't remember if it was Crucio or Aveda Kadavera when all the professors joined in with the troll and I swear I heard Prof Sharp say, "where did you learn that spell !! "
Yeah, that whole talk about the player being able to freely use the dark arts without consequence because "we wanted to let the player be evil if they wanted" is a load of obvious BS. It's just a simple excuse for what really is them not wanting to have to implement it in a way that would actually make sense.
Truth is, you cannot be evil in this game. Period. For somebody to be evil they must be considered evil by others, morality is subjective after all. Does the game treat you like you're evil if you kill people with the instant death spell? Do the characters treat you any different except for a meaningless remark? Nope. No matter how many acts of evil you commit from the player's point of view, from the game's point of view you're always the hero of the story and nothing else. Which is totally fine by the way, I just don't like the devs pretending it's anything else other than this and using flimsy excuses. They could've just said that they made it like this because, otherwise, it would've taken them too long to make it work properly and that would be perfectly understandable. They wanted to have the unforgivable curses in the game and were willing to compromise on the immersion to let the players play around with them, that's perfectly understandable. "it's this way because we wanted to let players be evil without consequences"? Get outta here with that crap...
Yea it’s dishonesty more than anything else I can’t stand
If you use an unforgivable curse in front of Professor Fig he’ll say “Let’s not travel that path right now, shall we?”
always wanted to know what makes dark magic inherently evil. Does it cause you to become more cruel? or do people just hate it because they're damaging spells? Because I dunno about you but I don't like the idea of being set on fire or being blasted away with bombarda anymore than I like the idea of being electrocuted with crucio.
The difference is you have to mean it. Crucio? You want to inflict suffering. Avada Kedavra? You want them dead. Sure, you can brutally murder without it, but pretty much every spell has some utility. Kinda like banning assault weapons versus chainsaws. Both do massive damage, but one is designed to kill, the other is just a tool used as a brutal weapon. Imperio? ... Both my Ravenclaw and me agree that I don't really get this one. Whatever way you make inferi seems like the better choice for the three unforgiveables. I guess you recognize necromancy from the beginning, but Imperio just means a guilty person may actually be completely innocent.
Then you have your main attack spells. Diffindo? Basically a magic machete. Incendio and confringo? Useful firestarters, and remember that normal people can't create the deadly ring of murder fire and fire shrapnel. Bombarda? I think this one might legitimately just be a weapon spell, but more for beasts like the startling number of trolls in the area. You're basically killing with a hunting rifle designed to take down wild firetrucks.
Professor Fig does comment. He occasionally says something like, "Let's not go down that path right now"