Bach - famous Minuet in G major. SF Christo, harpsichord.
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- This is the companion piece to the Minuet in G minor from Anna Magdalena's Notebook. Both works have been attributed to Christian Petzold. I have never heard of him in any other context, but I would like to find more pieces by him like these two little gems.
This was played on the "back" 8' stop of our William Dowd 1967 Italian harpsichord. To hear the "front" 8', check out the Minuet in G minor.
FAQ:
Can you tell more more about harpsichords, how much they cost and how they work?
Yes, please check out my video, "Harpsichord 101: How it Works".
I often wonder why the harpsichord isn't used anymore almost at all.
A piano may have a fuller and stronger sound (and possibly a much larger scale), but the harpsichord has such unique finesse to it... I think it's sad that it's not used anymore for music.
It seems like most people have never heard of the harpsichord.
@@fadial-khameesi2953 tho that is true, as a harpsichordist an ex pianist harpsichord still has more playability and usaully has a plethra of options and music interpretation, infect most harpsichord performances are interpretation of the performer as most music of the time didn't have clear instructions when t change manuals and or add stops that part is solely to the interpretation of the harpsichordist
I think it because harpsichord are generally more baroque oriented. The piano doesn't have those boundaries and can play other genres. The piano in a way is more adapted while the harpsichord is more specialized
+1
Rick Wakeman plays it is some songs. Actually, he plays everything that has a keyboard haha
I don't care what the other people saying. I LOVE IT!!! it is sound so classic, joyful and relaxing. I really like it and plus this is my first time hearing it. I really love piano but I never know that we have this beautiful harpsichord instead. I love it! I love it! I love it!!!!
This is one of my favorites. I love the harpsichord; it has such a unique sound. What a few have described as "cheap," I find hauntingly beautiful. I wish it were used in today's music; there is a grace and an elegance to it. I also wish there were more information about Christian Petzold. He died in obscurity not realizing what he contributed to the world.
Kathy Cobb it was used. The Toys recorded a lovers concerto in 1965. They changed the time from minuet 3/4 to 4/4. Simple but elegant.
Kathy Cobb the harpsichord is a strummed instrument. Similar to a harp or guitar. A piano, which came later, has keys & strings like a harpsichord but a hammer strikes the string whereas a harpsichord strums the string.
Kathy Cobb, From 1703 Christian Petzold (or Chretien Pezold) worked as organist at St. Sophia (Sophienkirche) in Dresden, and in 1709 he became court chamber composer and organist. He led an active musical life, giving concert tours that took him as far as Paris (1714) and Venice (1716). In 1720 he wrote a piece for the consecration of the new Silbermann organ at St. Sophia, and he performed a similar task at Rötha, near Leipzig, where another Silbermann organ was built. Petzold was also active as a teacher, his most noted student, Carl Heinrich Graun (Harpsichord), Graun also studied singing with Grundig, organ with Emanuel Benisch, and composition with J.C. Schmidt, at that time Kapellmeister of the Dresden Opera. Similar to many famous in their day Baroque Composers of note, much of Petzold's music is lost. Among his surviving works, three trio sonatas (Violin, Cello and Harpsichord continuou), two partitas for solo viola d'amore, a Recueil de 25 concerts pour le clavecin (ou Organ) (1729) ks.imslp.net/files/imglnks/usimg/7/73/IMSLP428832-PMLP696547-pezold_25_concertos_469811617_vol1.pdf which contains 25 harpsichord solo concertos (Harpsichord only) of the same variety as J S Bach's Italian Concerto published (Bach's differs as being written for a two manual Harpsichord), Orgeltabulatur (1704) chorale settings for organ, 11 fugues for harpsichord or organ, single pieces for harpsichord, three suites (G minor-which ends with a minuet, G major (which contains the G major and G minor minuet to my knowledge) and F major which also ends with minuet as the last movement) for harpsichord, and a Toccata for Harpsichord in Bb.
Amazingly the starting of savant's sledgehammer uses a harpsichord
a lot of baroque pop uses harpsichords
The Harpsichord- the most beautiful instrument ever!!!
I strongly agree! I must point out that Bach never composed for the piano, but for the harpsichort.
Too Bad Not Much People Knows About it.
:(
@SEVENTHSON89 Hello, that is correct. Petzold composed it. Bach, his wife and his children made a beautiful empty book for music. They filled it with many pieces by Bach but also pieces by other composers. But they were not labelled with the name of the composers. The book was just a place to store favorite smaller teaching pieces. Unless a piece was formally published (rare and expensive because metal plates had to be engreaved)- all other pieces were hand copied from teacher to student.
Nice, clean, and crisp sound. Nice playing. This piece has been in the beginners repertoire for almost 300 years (AMB, 1725).
One of my favorite classical pieces. I use this for my guitar warmups.
One of my favorite pieces, and I love the harpsichord!
I love how this masterpiece sounds when played with harpischord
Feels like time is gold again and everything become back to classic
this is STUNNING, it fills me up with life and wonder
So peaceful and calm😇
A lot of people say that the harpsichord sounds bad and ugly, but it’s a truly amazing instrument to me; especially when you play this song on it. Sounds better on this than the piano
That was of the first songs I ever learned. I should dig up back out again for fun.
Near my town of Tilburg in the center of the southpart of the Netherlands, one can find a large fairytail park for children and all those how like to feel young.
The park is situated near the little place of Kaatsheuvel and is called "the Efteling" inspirated on de Dutch drawing artist "Anton Pieck".
Out of the many little mushroom along the many little roads inside the park, is sounding this melody played on clavichord.
Long ago it once was my eye opener to the wonderful world of baroque music.
Evry time I heare this tune, I an grateful to Mr Bach and its performer !
De Efteling! In Kaatsheuvel!
I remember About 20 years ago, my niece practiced this music Kawai Spinet Harpsichord At the my home .
she was delighted to be able to play this music completely.
Good music that is not a large number of notes.
So I like baroque music !!
I so appreciate the refined tones of the harpsichord and to hear this pretty piece in its original context.
"¡¡¡ Y agradezcan, agradezcan... que soy una dama!!!" by Paty Cofré
Wonderful It's Wonderful music thank you
Beautiful piece, and the harpsichord adds so much more...
@Enix5548 Hello. The instrument was tuned by me, quite accurately, just before making the recording. The temperament is not equal as on the piano. It was either tuned to Valotti or perhaps Kellner.
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing :)
Thank you. Yes, certainly Petzold deserves his due. I still have not checked out more of his works. Perhaps he has many many other perfect gems.
I love harpsichord sound and this one, although perhaps modern, has a very good sound. For people missing piano, you can go to Beethoven. What you are here is the "piano" in Bach times, I don't like this piece performed on piano, I like music in its original form. Thanks for sharing.
this was the first piece I had to play when I started to learn the piano. Excellent. Thank you for posting.
This is quite nice.
I was looking for this song so hard!
Hello. No, the piece is complete and does not have a missing part. Sometimes I have heard it played with its companion piece in G minor place in the middle. That seems to work very well (A B A form) but there is no indication that I've seen that it was intended to be this way. Key-scheme-wise it would make more sense to interject a piece in e minor (relative minor) instead of G minor (parallel minor).
thanks for sharing!
We have a music box with this song at home, a really nice wooden one :) We loved listening to it when we were children
Though long attributed to Bach, it's actually by Petzold.
Sergio Mallorga Read the description
@Enix5548 (part II) This means that one could set a temperament and then a few minutes later its not precise anymore. Basically all major 10ths sounded wretched to me in equal temp (on harpsi). Almost any well temp. works to eliminate that. The Well Temp. Clavier was not intended to be played all at one setting. The first book was put together from pieces he had written over a period of time.-- Notice that the suites maintain their main key for each mov't. That was FAR more typical writing.
@thegrayplace Thank you. The harpsichord can immediately create that antique atmosphere.
Hello! SF Christo. My name is Sokwon. Thank you for your music.❤
I had no idea Bach did not compose this, thank you for the history lesson!
delightful !!
beautiful!
way more beautiful than that... Heavenly sound, i'm blessed that God gave me an ear to enjoy this piece. Bless Bach and the player.
Sounds just perfect to dance to.
@GerardRatigan Thank you. "I do what I can with what little I have." :) I hadn't seen you posting new videos recently. Good to hear from you.
@thegrayplace Just recently I started using a tuning (mean-tone) that takes me back 400(!) years. Hope to put up some videos of that soon.
@Enix5548 (part III) I have yet to hear a good temperament for the fugue in B major from WTC I. When I record it I'm going to retune the instrument as bass the well tempered tuning around B instead of C. (on the advice I have gotten after consulting with several organists and harpsichordists). It is easy to retune and harpsichordists did that all the time to make the temp needed as sweet as possible. -- these are some of my thoughts. Thanks for your interest.
wonderfull! You also happen to play it with the modifications i personally prefer! Also this minuet sounds so perfectly nice on Harpsichord! Good job :)
*Re: Harpsichord in modern times*
There was a revival and the harpsichord is often used when they are trying to recreate the original sound of the musical piece as the composer intended it. Talking about Bach and Mozart, because the piano wasn't invented yet in their times.
A few of my absolute favourites:
*Handel: Harpsichord Suite No. 7 in G minor HWV 432 - 6. Passacaglia*
*Harpsichord Concerto No. 5 in F Minor, BWV 1056: II. Largo*
Although if you just look up the name of the composer + harpischord you'll find many more.
Hello, lovely playing. From english wikipedia:
Selected work by Christian Petzold:
Vocal
Cantata Meine Seufzer, meine Klagen
Ensemble
Three trio sonatas
Two partitas for viola d'amore
Solo instrumental
Recueil de 25 concerts pour le clavecin (1729), 25 harpsichord pieces
Orgeltabulatur (1704), chorale settings for organ
11 fugues for organ or harpsichord
A suite and single pieces for harpsichord
He was a composer and organist in Dresden. Search him wiki!
it is so good that it is unbeliveable
Hi Christo. Sounds good.
i've read some complaints about the "piano" sound perceived as "bad" or "cheap". Others sorted the basics out :-), however I wanted to add that there are different flavours of harpsichord styles out there, like the french, the flemish, the italian, english and german, even spanish. And the 20th century harpsichords that sound distinctively different from their historic counterparts. Not 100% positive but I daresay the harpsichord we hear in this performance is a 20th century style harpsichord, not a harpsichord following a historical type of making. But, of course, I may be mistaken. Personally, I find harpsichords to be difficult to record, especially at home and when you're not a recording expert (I'm not). Anyway, a nice recording & performance that does not deserve 18 dislikes.
Copy of Italian Harpsichord by the Dean of the Historical Movement, sounds nothing like it a modern "revival instrument." 20th century Harpsichords, Pleyel, Neupert, Sabathil, Wittmeyer, Challis sound very different. Best example, watch any Addams Family TV show episode from the 1960's or any of the E Power Biggs Pedal Harpsichord works (Challis), Wanda Landowska, Pleyel, or Karl Richter (German mass produced "Serien"). These instruments usually have shortened bass strings, 16' stops and the German instruments have the 4' stop on the upper manual. Sometimes called "plucking pianos," because of their massive, open bottom cases, thick sides, and many with metal frames. Side by side with a historical based instrument, they are quieter, do not project as well, (nickednamed "Whisperchords."
Modern (20th century) Pianos have muddy bass notes, indistinct attacks, and generally no tonal variation (except in the extreme ends of the compass) in comparison to a historical harpsichords clear, precise attack, and transparent bass.
There's nothing wrong with a piano, it takes more effort to play Bach on the piano, to have every line sing. Too many pianists play a Bach fugue by banging out the subject marcato and F or FF, (how can anyone follow the counterpoint) instead of playing with balance among the voices (to blend) on equal terms (and volumes) as a choir should sing. The damper pedal is used, and frankly too much, and the sonic blur. How much more is gained by forgetting one possesses a right leg, using the una corda pedal and listening than using the crutch of the piano (the damper pedal)?
You are quite correct about the national schools (and in these schools different cites predominate) and and see no reason for the thumbs down. An excellent performance of two pieces from Christian Petzold suite in G major.
You might like his other public domain work at imslp.org/wiki/Category:Pezold,_Christian
Hello Michael, the harpsichord here was built with historical principles in mind and isn't a revival instrument. It actually sounds truly wonderful live. Thanks for listening and commenting.
nice playing
nice instrument
nice tuning
nice music
Nice sound.
In most piano versions the repeated Gs at the end of a phrase in the top section tend to be played as short staccato notes. This version you don't hear the notes play as short.
Very good music
A dream of harmony and peace 🌺🎶...BACH
I have an electric piano and I can play that on harpsichord to. sounds great. :)
One of my first pieces. I always reckoned it was not Bach. I speculated that Anna Magdalena had written it.
you have a beautiful harpsichord :')
grande signor cristo, stato un fan dal giorno 0. non mollare, io ti supporterò sempre anche quando purtroppo gli anni avanzeranno, il tempo si prenderà la sua anima ma non si preoccupi; il suo valore e tutto ciò che mi ha insegnato quando ero solo un piccoolo pargolo : non scompariranno ma anzi persevereranno sempre nella mia memoria finché lassù tra le stelle non ci ricongiungeremo, e vivremo per sempre felici e contenti
groda
tu ma @@pisq_
Quite a fine tune I dare say my jolly old friend.
AWESOME basis for Lover's Concerto!
Merci
A man by the name of Christian Petzold wrote this, not Bach. Still a beautiful piece, and it is played beautifully!
Interesting how the harpsichord was painted the right-side-up with the white & black keys like a piano than the original with the keys painted in reverse.
@Enix5548 Hello. I've looked into it. Bradley Lehman is behind that interpretation. I hear that it is wonderful. He even sent me instructions on how to do it. But I have yet to try it myself. -- I live in a climate controlled house with electricity, if the temp or humidity changes just a little bit, the harpsichords change their tuning. This throws off any exact temperament. Imagine uneven heat, high humidity and wood fireplaces in Bach's time. Unheated churches, etc.
@HerrWarja THank you!
Great! Did you pay attention, that there are more "likes" for the minuet in g-dur than for minuet in g moll?
Assistido TTM
Maria Aparecida de Sousa Silva
I feel this is played at the right tempo. Often these days it's played too fast!
@1811FranzLiszt Perhaps, I don't have the Urtext or a manuscript copy. In any case, ornaments are always optional and in fact the idea is to add your own spontaneously each time you play the piece. They are not fixed.
Lover's concerto a song by the "Toys" was made from this minuet
It sounds like something you would hear inside a castle or something like that
Hello Lei, I'm not sure where it happens. Let me know the minute and second it happens and I'll listen carefully for the change. As far as I anything I did, I played piece in one take and did not change any of the "stops"/sets of strings on the instrument.
This song was changed from 3/4 time to 4/4 time & lyrics added by the group the Toys in 1965. It's called a lovers concerto. Surprised? I was. Check it out.
"Lover's Concerto" has been one of favorite songs for almost 50 years. Everybody knows it was modeled after this piece.
The attribution to Petzold, not Bach, is correct.
Man it only took me like 5 years to figure this one out! Still less than can can though :-)
I like the arpeggiated G-major (I think? I don't really know chord names that well ... or at all, but given the title of the piece ...) at the end of the second parts. I might have to try playing it that way ... seems more likely I could hit that than those trills.
@Enix5548 Well, it was easy to hear it's not modern tuning. xD But Cembalos are from a time when the tuning we use now wasn't invented, so it should be left that way, I think. :)
I HATE THIS SONG WITH A BURNING PASSION!!!
When I was a kid I was studying the piano. One of the last songs I ever learned there was this one. And after 6 months of constant learning it I still couldn't get it right. I cried, the teacher was seriously angry and no matter what I did, I could never get my diminuendos and stoccatas right. I had blocked this memory out until recently when the same tune decided to start haunting me, resurfacing long forgotten nightmares.
But the harpsichord is the bomb, yo. Makes nice sounds.
아름다운 음악이다 뭔가 마음이 평온해지는 느낌
Hi, Christo - you are a good beginner ;-)
Christian Petzold
@ruthavega I just put up a video where I am playing some small pieces by Bartok on the pipe organ. Would you please do me a favor and listen to that and tell me if you are hearing the same type of sounds?
Assistido...Rosemari Oliveira...TTM...
Assistido! Persília! GTTM!
It's actually hard to find his pieces on the web. Post some links here if you find it! =D
Assistido. Gleiciene Carrias. G TTM. Amooooo
JS Bach was a gift from God to mankind.
@ruthavega Hello. Hmmm, I tried but I can't hear the kluk. Perhaps its the sound of the plectrum (little guitar pick) coming back down after I let go of the key or its a little action/key noise or when the jack hits the wooden felt covered jack rail.
"This is the companion piece to..."
@dolofonos Isn't just a perfect small piece?
Little bit of trivia. The Toys, a girl group, did a song based on this melody, and it was titled Lovers' Concerto. You can listen here: ua-cam.com/video/_muziTEnNWs/v-deo.html
Hello. The description says that this is the "companion piece" to the one in G minor. It puzzles me that that seems hard to understand.
@girlpalooza Thanks GP!
Christian Petzold must be an angel, he gave Bach the Minuet in G Minor and then he returned to heaven!
Assistido.Jamili Carvalho. GTTM
It should just go on and on like Bolero☺
Assistido Maria GTTM, encantada
¡Clavicordios!
Me gustan :)
Soledad Luna oh sí 💗
No es un clavicordio, sino un clavicémbalo.
Totalmente de acuerdo.
Clavichord = Clavicordio, Harpsichord=Clavicémbalo
Assistido. Rute Eli de Souza. TTM
Assistido! Kelli - GTTM.
@PianoFoool Thank you. My title says "G Major", am I missing something?
Assistido. Vânia Cristina. TTM.
i need to lisen to dise becaus of school