Well, I bought a 1070 based on your recommendation (coming from an r7 260x) and I have honestly no idea what to do with the power. I love your channel and keep up the good work!
One thing I really appreciate about your benchmarks is that you try and keep things practical. You show settings that can get the most performance out of the game while not having it look like dogshit. For example, the settings you showed on Fortnite suit the game, especially with that view distance, without having to resort to performance mode. You didn't crank the settings to the absolute lowest to get as many frames as you can. You also didn't mislead people into thinking that this card is some preferable solution for today's gaming, you showed games where it absolutely struggled to give a playable experience. Awesome vid!
He really does feel like the tech channel "for the people", It's not just GPU tortureporn, but also not flowery sweet nothings to butter people up. Just a giving examples and context so that you can get a reasonable idea on products that people might be considering, weather they're shiny and new or old and dusty.
Love your videos as always man! If you were looking for some pain and suffering for a future video, I suggest mobile Kepler. I just fixed up my 2013 razer blade and the 765m has aged even worse than normal kepler. Driver support ended in 2019.
Love the videos man! I'd love to see coverage of the 1660/ti/super lineup. I just picked up a 1660S locally for $150CAD ($115USD), and it seems to be a good 30-45% step up from my old RX480 4GB, which seems to be excellent bang for the buck. Also, despite being a small single fan model, it gets +7-10% performance with an OC, which bumps it comfortably ahead of stock 1070 performance, I believe. Sweet little card!
I've gone from Intel GMA 950, to GeForce 210 (daddy's first NVIDIA "gaming graphics card" LOL) to GT 750M, to a sudden leap into RTX 2060, heights of 6950 XT, and am now picking up a 2200M in a laptop. I'm ceaselessly amazed by what frames and visual fidelity you can get by making the right adjustments and tempering expectations in line with the hardware you own.
I got a M2000, and it handles decently as you showcased... though appears to dip down in fps greatly at specific intervals, know anything about this, could it be the GPU itself having a problem or my other hardware?
It can supposedly work on Windows too using DXVK, but I've never had any luck with it. Got about 1 frame per minute in AC Valhalla and a white screen of death in Elden Ring.
@@IcebergTech DXVK will never work with dx12 titles due to it being designed for DX9,10, and 11. VKD3D-Proton (valve's gaming focused fork of vkd3d from mainline wine) is what does dx12.
@@nepnep6894 ahh sorry, got my acronyms mixed up. It was indeed VKD3D, via a mod on Nexusmods. I have some old Kepler and cards lined up, I might give it another shot!
I bought one of these for £40 recently - thats about what they are worth to a gamer - and a good option for that price - esp if you're pc doesnt have a 6/8pin graphics card cable
i went to built a gamer pc for a little girl of my neighborhood and her father gave me one of this quadro and a mobo with cpu haha y tested it on my own pc and performs very well, i think for casual gaming and non triple a games it's a good choise.
Paired one of these with an Optiplex 7050 (has an i5-7500) works way better than I expected. Been using it casually over my 2080ti build just for noise and power reasons Runs Overwatch 2 at medium 1080p with 60 fps+
Its been working like a charm throughout the gpu pandemic for me. Only nitpick, that I got though gaming experience, is that maybe it has the 3.5gb of fast vram and 0.5gb slow vram issue of the gtx 970, as most games seem to go to 3.5, and only if I go to 4k, is when the game uses more.
@@IcebergTech Yep, tore down mine too, to give it watercooling, due to my tesla m40 datacenter card restricting its airflow. A strange thing I noticed with mine, is with the memory chips on the back. The one closer to the pcie connector stays cool, below 40, but for some reason, the outer one goes to around 57 degrees at times. Makes me believe maybe 3 chips are faster vram, while 1 chip is slower vram, so the gpu prefers to use below 3gb of vram whenever possible to keep vram speed up.
@@IcebergTech I believe the "3.5 Gb" is not due to the dram chips on the board, but because the chip does not have enough ROPs for 4gb, so nVidia had to do some kind of work around
I got a great deal on a 1440p Acer Predator monitor in 2019 so I sold my 1070 FE for $150 and I bought a 2070 for $500. I wish I had kept that 1070 FE and not sold it, the good ole days.....
@@IcebergTech yeah 60 pounds is too much, on US ebay they can be had for $40. I think the HD 7750 is fairly similar if you find one that doesn't need additional power, and there's the r7 260x, which while not quite as similar surprisingly has full dx12 support and is considered the closest one can get to the xbox one GPU
I've been doing more research into low end GCN GPUs, and came up with a couple interesting things: the R7 450 is essentially a HD 7750 rebrand with 4gb GDDR5, only GCN1 so middling DX12 support, very similar to the R7 350. What gets my interest is the Firepro W5100, a 4gb GDDR5 GCN 2.0 variant of the R7 260x, but without the need of a 6 pin power connector with DX12 feature level 12_0 support (Halo infinite MP possible?) and Freesync support. It has a low profile variant called the Firepro W4300 as well. Hoping to buy one once I sell off some old parts so I can experiment with Nimez drivers on it.
@@livingthedream915 Surprised to hear there was a 4GB version of the R7 450, even more so to see it's GDDR5! Less surprised to see they're £70 on UK eBay- you can almost get an RX 470 for that... Those Firepros are a little too expensive for my tastes, too.
@@IcebergTech yeah the firepros are a little more palatable on the other side of the ocean but to be frank these sellers are asking way too much for the lot now that prices are coming down.
The free option is to mod the BIOS and reduce the clock speeds and/or voltage, but that's a whole can of worms and you might brick your card. The cheap- but not free- option is to dismantle your card, clean off the old thermal paste and apply some new, good stuff like Arctic MX4 or Noctua NT1. If you haven't already done this, it's an excellent way of improving thermals but, again, isn't for the faint of heart. Find some instructions online for repasting GPUs if in doubt!
No, that would be a step down. The M2000 is on par with the GTX 950. The M5000 or M6000 would be upgrades, but honestly if you want a good step up from a 970 I’d suggest a 1060 6GB or 1070
HI bro! Wassup? You need to help me, now i got this gpu on laptop (quadro m2000m), playing gta v, I got my fps on high settings like 40-50, I think you got 65? If I make vsync off, I got more fps but start to tearing, can you explain for me, and is there any way I can get rid of tearing (without vsync?)
It’s not exactly the same GPU, the M2000M is more like a GTX 750Ti where the M2000 is more of a GTX 950; plus, laptop GPUs have different power and thermal limits. The ways to avoid tearing are v-sync, g-sync, freesync and just raw high FPS. You’re probably limited to v-sync with your setup, I think. Dumb question, but you don’t have your monitor refresh rate set to 50hz by any chance? Either in Windows or in the game?
@@IcebergTech thx so much for the fast answer, really appreciate it... OK now I see, so it's a difference between m2 and m2m, and no I got 60 on my monitor on both w and game
I guess I need to be pleased with 60 fps on normal settings (gtav)... pls If it's possible do you know some good games for this gpu... Will watch dogs 1,2,legion work🙂🙃
Of the PC? It’s a Ryzen 5 5600G @ 4.6GHz w/ 16GB DDR4-3600 (spec at 01:57) If you mean the card, it’s a Maxwell 2.0 card with 768 CUDA cores at 796-1163MHz, 4GB of 1653MHz GDDR5 on a 128 bit bus with 48 TMUs, 32 ROPs and 8 SMs. It’s very close to the GTX 950.
Yes, a few. The M2000M is built on Maxwell 1.0 rather than 2.0, so will have compatibility problems with some DX12 titles. Also- although I haven’t tested it myself- as a mobile card, the M2000M will most likely be more affected by thermal and power limits. I’d expect the M2000M to run slower than the M2000.
@@IcebergTech thank you . one more question pls . which one do u suggest me for gaming , quadro m2000 4gb or gtx1050 2gb ? wich one u think will give more fps ?
i want to buy a new computer and tbh i am not that good in this stuffs. I want to play games like fortnite, fifa, rocket league, GTA, can u help me? is this worth itv
1. This graphics card can play all of those games pretty well. Two of them are in the video, and Rocket League will run very well too. I haven’t played FIFA in ~10 years, but I think it should be fine. 2. I don’t know if it’s worth it, that depends on how much this and other graphics cards cost where you live.
Well, although there's a lot more to a laptop than just the core specs, I *can* tell you that I have an i7-7700HQ in my Dell XPS 15, which isn't all that different to a 6820HQ on paper, and it runs most stuff just fine! I don't know if you'll be able to undervbolt it though- I know I can't undervolt mine, and that does mean it runs pretty hot. The M2000M doesn't look quite as interesting as the desktop M2000, as it's Maxwell 1.0 not 2.0. This means it doesn't have DX12_1 feature support, so a couple of newer games won't start.
@AL-Reyashi [FM] Well, the M2000 simply isn't available in a laptop, and the M2000M can't easily be used on a desktop. One isn't really an alternative to the other. Being a mobile chip, the M2000M will frequently kick into a lower power state when not needed or when on battery. Depending on the power delivery and thermals of the laptop, it may also not work at its maximum potential performance, so I wouldn't be able to accurately guess how it will perform.
Never tried it, but it appears to have some issues. It’s Terascale, which means very old drivers and will have some compatibility problems with modern games. At a guess, it probably isn’t any faster than modern integrated graphics either.
In a best-case scenario, I.e. not thermal or power limited, the M2000M is maybe 15-20% slower. It is also Maxwell 1.0, so is slightly less compatible. It’s probably closer to a K2200 than the M2000
Well, I bought a 1070 based on your recommendation (coming from an r7 260x) and I have honestly no idea what to do with the power.
I love your channel and keep up the good work!
One thing I really appreciate about your benchmarks is that you try and keep things practical. You show settings that can get the most performance out of the game while not having it look like dogshit. For example, the settings you showed on Fortnite suit the game, especially with that view distance, without having to resort to performance mode. You didn't crank the settings to the absolute lowest to get as many frames as you can. You also didn't mislead people into thinking that this card is some preferable solution for today's gaming, you showed games where it absolutely struggled to give a playable experience. Awesome vid!
He really does feel like the tech channel "for the people", It's not just GPU tortureporn, but also not flowery sweet nothings to butter people up.
Just a giving examples and context so that you can get a reasonable idea on products that people might be considering, weather they're shiny and new or old and dusty.
Love your videos as always man! If you were looking for some pain and suffering for a future video, I suggest mobile Kepler. I just fixed up my 2013 razer blade and the 765m has aged even worse than normal kepler. Driver support ended in 2019.
Love the videos man! I'd love to see coverage of the 1660/ti/super lineup. I just picked up a 1660S locally for $150CAD ($115USD), and it seems to be a good 30-45% step up from my old RX480 4GB, which seems to be excellent bang for the buck.
Also, despite being a small single fan model, it gets +7-10% performance with an OC, which bumps it comfortably ahead of stock 1070 performance, I believe. Sweet little card!
THANK YOU! BEEN GAMING ON THIS FOR PAST 2 YEARS!
Keep doing your thing buddy! It's a good thing.
You too 😃
I've gone from Intel GMA 950, to GeForce 210 (daddy's first NVIDIA "gaming graphics card" LOL) to GT 750M, to a sudden leap into RTX 2060, heights of 6950 XT, and am now picking up a 2200M in a laptop. I'm ceaselessly amazed by what frames and visual fidelity you can get by making the right adjustments and tempering expectations in line with the hardware you own.
same story but stops in the gt 750m part. rather a quadro k620. im getting an m2000 soon or a 1650
I got one for £90 right in the middle of the GPU pandemic. It's been brilliant! The Mrs is still using it in her pc.
I got a M2000, and it handles decently as you showcased... though appears to dip down in fps greatly at specific intervals, know anything about this, could it be the GPU itself having a problem or my other hardware?
The HD7000 series with GCN1 can technically have fl12 compatibility if you use Linux with the RADV vulkan drivers with vkd3d.
It can supposedly work on Windows too using DXVK, but I've never had any luck with it. Got about 1 frame per minute in AC Valhalla and a white screen of death in Elden Ring.
@@IcebergTech DXVK will never work with dx12 titles due to it being designed for DX9,10, and 11. VKD3D-Proton (valve's gaming focused fork of vkd3d from mainline wine) is what does dx12.
@@nepnep6894 ahh sorry, got my acronyms mixed up. It was indeed VKD3D, via a mod on Nexusmods.
I have some old Kepler and cards lined up, I might give it another shot!
I bought one of these for £40 recently - thats about what they are worth to a gamer - and a good option for that price - esp if you're pc doesnt have a 6/8pin graphics card cable
i went to built a gamer pc for a little girl of my neighborhood and her father gave me one of this quadro and a mobo with cpu haha y tested it on my own pc and performs very well, i think for casual gaming and non triple a games it's a good choise.
Paired one of these with an Optiplex 7050 (has an i5-7500) works way better than I expected.
Been using it casually over my 2080ti build just for noise and power reasons
Runs Overwatch 2 at medium 1080p with 60 fps+
Its been working like a charm throughout the gpu pandemic for me. Only nitpick, that I got though gaming experience, is that maybe it has the 3.5gb of fast vram and 0.5gb slow vram issue of the gtx 970, as most games seem to go to 3.5, and only if I go to 4k, is when the game uses more.
Doesn’t look that way, I just torn mine down and it has four identical memory chips on board.
@@IcebergTech Yep, tore down mine too, to give it watercooling, due to my tesla m40 datacenter card restricting its airflow. A strange thing I noticed with mine, is with the memory chips on the back. The one closer to the pcie connector stays cool, below 40, but for some reason, the outer one goes to around 57 degrees at times. Makes me believe maybe 3 chips are faster vram, while 1 chip is slower vram, so the gpu prefers to use below 3gb of vram whenever possible to keep vram speed up.
@@IcebergTech Still a very cool card, and great video as always Iceberg!
@@IcebergTech I believe the "3.5 Gb" is not due to the dram chips on the board, but because the chip does not have enough ROPs for 4gb, so nVidia had to do some kind of work around
I got a great deal on a 1440p Acer Predator monitor in 2019 so I sold my 1070 FE for $150 and I bought a 2070 for $500.
I wish I had kept that 1070 FE and not sold it, the good ole days.....
So what is the dedicated video memento vram for m2000
Dose Nvidia Quadro M2000M 4GB good For gaming
Hi . Pls can u make a video of quadro m2000 test with ResidentEvil 8 and Warzone ?
I regret to inform you that you can buy a rx 580 or 570 for 100 or less in the us
No need for regret, that's a good thing!
@@IcebergTech lol
You need a moderately priced pre built OEM 🤩
I have been thinking about getting a Precision T3600 or T3610, but I have too many PCs right now…
@@IcebergTech There’s never too many 🤣👌🏼
Kinda wanna see you test the OEM R7 350 if you can find a GDDR5 variant, bought one for a friend as a gift and he was very happy.
There are none on UK eBay right now, and the 350X is way too expensive. £60+!
I'll keep an eye open
@@IcebergTech yeah 60 pounds is too much, on US ebay they can be had for $40. I think the HD 7750 is fairly similar if you find one that doesn't need additional power, and there's the r7 260x, which while not quite as similar surprisingly has full dx12 support and is considered the closest one can get to the xbox one GPU
I've been doing more research into low end GCN GPUs, and came up with a couple interesting things: the R7 450 is essentially a HD 7750 rebrand with 4gb GDDR5, only GCN1 so middling DX12 support, very similar to the R7 350. What gets my interest is the Firepro W5100, a 4gb GDDR5 GCN 2.0 variant of the R7 260x, but without the need of a 6 pin power connector with DX12 feature level 12_0 support (Halo infinite MP possible?) and Freesync support. It has a low profile variant called the Firepro W4300 as well. Hoping to buy one once I sell off some old parts so I can experiment with Nimez drivers on it.
@@livingthedream915 Surprised to hear there was a 4GB version of the R7 450, even more so to see it's GDDR5! Less surprised to see they're £70 on UK eBay- you can almost get an RX 470 for that...
Those Firepros are a little too expensive for my tastes, too.
@@IcebergTech yeah the firepros are a little more palatable on the other side of the ocean but to be frank these sellers are asking way too much for the lot now that prices are coming down.
Only 4gbs? Bro so many games had issues with the 8gb vram on the 30 series. You want at least 10gb now.
I have a Dell precision 7520 Nvidia Quadro 2200
So could I play final fantasy Vii using low end resolution?
What background music are u using here?
I have a plate similar to this one, it is getting 80 degrees, do you have any tips to lower the temperature?
The free option is to mod the BIOS and reduce the clock speeds and/or voltage, but that's a whole can of worms and you might brick your card.
The cheap- but not free- option is to dismantle your card, clean off the old thermal paste and apply some new, good stuff like Arctic MX4 or Noctua NT1. If you haven't already done this, it's an excellent way of improving thermals but, again, isn't for the faint of heart. Find some instructions online for repasting GPUs if in doubt!
Would it be worth the upgrade from a GTX 970 4gb
No, that would be a step down. The M2000 is on par with the GTX 950. The M5000 or M6000 would be upgrades, but honestly if you want a good step up from a 970 I’d suggest a 1060 6GB or 1070
@@IcebergTech I greatly appreciate the reply, I'll take your advice into careful consideration.
HI bro! Wassup? You need to help me, now i got this gpu on laptop (quadro m2000m), playing gta v, I got my fps on high settings like 40-50, I think you got 65? If I make vsync off, I got more fps but start to tearing, can you explain for me, and is there any way I can get rid of tearing (without vsync?)
It’s not exactly the same GPU, the M2000M is more like a GTX 750Ti where the M2000 is more of a GTX 950; plus, laptop GPUs have different power and thermal limits.
The ways to avoid tearing are v-sync, g-sync, freesync and just raw high FPS. You’re probably limited to v-sync with your setup, I think.
Dumb question, but you don’t have your monitor refresh rate set to 50hz by any chance? Either in Windows or in the game?
@@IcebergTech thx so much for the fast answer, really appreciate it... OK now I see, so it's a difference between m2 and m2m, and no I got 60 on my monitor on both w and game
I guess I need to be pleased with 60 fps on normal settings (gtav)... pls If it's possible do you know some good games for this gpu... Will watch dogs 1,2,legion work🙂🙃
In this day and age this card should be $50
Can i run spiderman Miles Morales?
What's the other Specifications?
Of the PC? It’s a Ryzen 5 5600G @ 4.6GHz w/ 16GB DDR4-3600 (spec at 01:57)
If you mean the card, it’s a Maxwell 2.0 card with 768 CUDA cores at 796-1163MHz, 4GB of 1653MHz GDDR5 on a 128 bit bus with 48 TMUs, 32 ROPs and 8 SMs. It’s very close to the GTX 950.
@@IcebergTech bro sorry for asking u again but I need u to watch this I just can't believed this
No OC?
Is there any difference between m2000 and m2000m?
Yes, a few. The M2000M is built on Maxwell 1.0 rather than 2.0, so will have compatibility problems with some DX12 titles. Also- although I haven’t tested it myself- as a mobile card, the M2000M will most likely be more affected by thermal and power limits. I’d expect the M2000M to run slower than the M2000.
bro , pls tell me how did u get the mod fsr 2.0 ? i need to apply to my gpu
There’s more info here:
FSR 2.0 (unofficially) comes to Cyberpunk 2077
ua-cam.com/video/Qs2LV9t6Qlc/v-deo.html
@@IcebergTech thank you . one more question pls . which one do u suggest me for gaming , quadro m2000 4gb or gtx1050 2gb ? wich one u think will give more fps ?
They should be pretty close, but the 1050 will be better unless it’s a particularly memory intensive game.
This is 2gb or 4gb
i want to buy a new computer and tbh i am not that good in this stuffs. I want to play games like fortnite, fifa, rocket league, GTA, can u help me? is this worth itv
1. This graphics card can play all of those games pretty well. Two of them are in the video, and Rocket League will run very well too. I haven’t played FIFA in ~10 years, but I think it should be fine.
2. I don’t know if it’s worth it, that depends on how much this and other graphics cards cost where you live.
Well, although there's a lot more to a laptop than just the core specs, I *can* tell you that I have an i7-7700HQ in my Dell XPS 15, which isn't all that different to a 6820HQ on paper, and it runs most stuff just fine! I don't know if you'll be able to undervbolt it though- I know I can't undervolt mine, and that does mean it runs pretty hot.
The M2000M doesn't look quite as interesting as the desktop M2000, as it's Maxwell 1.0 not 2.0. This means it doesn't have DX12_1 feature support, so a couple of newer games won't start.
@AL-Reyashi [FM] Well, the M2000 simply isn't available in a laptop, and the M2000M can't easily be used on a desktop. One isn't really an alternative to the other.
Being a mobile chip, the M2000M will frequently kick into a lower power state when not needed or when on battery. Depending on the power delivery and thermals of the laptop, it may also not work at its maximum potential performance, so I wouldn't be able to accurately guess how it will perform.
I have 24 core and 48 thread workstation with 32 gb RAM, 512gb SSD, quadro m2000 4 gb can i play call of duty mw on it?? Or CS GO
I just picked one up for $30
Amd firepro M2000 can use for gaming?
Never tried it, but it appears to have some issues. It’s Terascale, which means very old drivers and will have some compatibility problems with modern games. At a guess, it probably isn’t any faster than modern integrated graphics either.
Does the M2000M come close to performing like this
In a best-case scenario, I.e. not thermal or power limited, the M2000M is maybe 15-20% slower. It is also Maxwell 1.0, so is slightly less compatible. It’s probably closer to a K2200 than the M2000
I got one for 5$ at a garage sale