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The INDIAN Chief Dark Horse Review
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2023
- The Indian Chief Dark Horse is a solid v-twin cruiser/bobber designed motorcycle from Legendary American manufacturer 'Indian Motorcycles'.
With a thumping 1,890cc Thunderstroke 116 engine, producing 162Nm of torque at only 3,500rpm, this bike has oodles of grunt to put a smile on your head, with technology and build quality levels that leave certain other American manufacturers in their wake.
But is it any good to ride?
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It's so nice to see a biker enjoying the business of riding a bike. When you're chuckling away to yourself in your helmet, you know life is good! Thanks for taking us along with you. Sorry the bike didn't suit you for comfort, but you don't know if you don't try? Ride safe and be well! 🙂
That’s awesome to read, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your comment 👏👍
That laugh when you blip the throttle is so great!! Every rider knows exactly what you mean.
I’m only five foot seven (and a half) and I’ve fitted a cruiser bar and forward controls to my chief dark horse. Even at my height it was uncomfortable but these modifications made a massive difference to being able to use the bike all day.
I've just bought the Indian Chieftain Darkhorse. I traded it from a 2022 Honda Goldwing. It has the Thunderstroke 116 and it's an animal. You get a larger touchscreen and a better seat by far. Thriw a backrest on and your gonna be just fine. Oh it's also got twin disks.
I got the reduced reach bars for mine, and it made a big difference from stock. I’m 6’2”. I initially got cramped legs on long rides, but it gets more comfortable as your body and gets used to the riding position. Overall it’s a very comfortable ride. I would recommend swapping bars though if you’re a taller rider.
Owning a CDH since this summer and changed from the stock to a mid rise bar finally to a cruiser bar bc of the same experience (arms, shoulders). 😒 That made a HUGE difference.😍 Am about the same size/weight as you.
LOVE it now and it's really comfortable. If you have another chance with a cruiser bar installed give it a try. 😉
Thanks for the entertaining, honest clip.
The surgeon that fixed me ownes this bike. Seeing him Wednesday. I will pass it along. Thanks for the review
Thanks for the review
I own the 111 Chief Bobber and straight away stage one’d it- they have so much torque and usable power
Mine has forward controls and mini apes and being 6’3, it’s comfortable- I did switch to a 2up saddleman and put a road warrior fairing
It looks badass and hauls it too
Bruce, when you said the difference between Primark and top end High Street is abit like the footage in this Vlog, really like the 360 of the bike and close up work, top notch mate. Proper spot on editing right there! Quality. Ride safe pal
I sometimes frown at bike reviews but seldom grin, so well done there! Tried a Fat Bob once and yeah, that feet forward and low bars layout is not for me…
Very pretty bike. That low and lean look is what it’s all about… good thing for Indian there’s no shortage of people who will sacrifice comfort to look cool😂
Lovely bike. I’m sure the seating position with different bars or foot control positions could be easily adjusted to get the best comfort for you.
Apes needed I reckon! Great review other than comfort. Gotta love an indian. 😊
Ride safe, LJ
Don't forget there's four Chief's to choose from, all the same bike with the same great engine gearbox and chassis but all configured a little differently. If you want dual front discs, more suspension travel, more cornering clearance, then check out the Sport Chief. If you want more ergonomic comfort than the base Chief, look at the Chief Bobber and if you want touring accommodations then look at the Super Chief Limited. Oh and don't forget to adjust the preload on the rear shock to suit your weight, the ride will greatly improve. ;)
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I just bought a Chief Dark Horse and didn't even know that the preload is adjustable. Gotta figure out how to do that
@@Guatrau3 There'll be two C Wrenches that should have come with the bike.
@@BikesILike I bought the bike used and didn't get any wrenches 🤔. That sucks
@@Guatrau3 Ahh, you should be able to buy them from Indian dealer
Hey Teapot, maybe you should give the Chief Dark Horse Bobber a try. It has forward pegs and slightly raised handlebars which should help with the comfort. It also has spoked wheels if you're into that. If you wanna go all out on touring comfort, then the limited might be interesting.
My chief bobber DH 22 has an awful stock seat. Like every American bike those need some upgrades like comfy seats, mini ape bars, etc. It's still worth it, because reliability and technology is much better than...
I fell head over heels for the Chief DH on a test ride and got one.
Before I picked it up, I got the shop to change to forward pegs and Cruiser bars. The bars are wider and further back.
At the first service I picked up a 'Comfort' seat. Looks almost the same, but went from 1/2hr to all day in comfort. I tried gel pad and sheep skin prior to that and nothing worked.
I find sport mode too aggressive for everyday riding, but it does make you grin, even better than the Vmax because its all torque and from tick over just about.
I love it, but not happy with the changes I had to make.
I'm now looking for mudguards that are worthy of the name that don't cost £1200 each!
I love my 2022 Indian Chief bobber. I have the Ruby metallic. Love the looks and comments I get on it. It’s a dream to drive. The way you feel enjoying it, I feel every time I take it out. lol. I’m a 5’4” female and it fits me perfect. It’s good for those of us who are vertically challenged. 😂
Damn mommy. 😅
I think you'll like the challenger. The ride is smooth and you have that torque. I've had Harleys since 1972 and this year I bought a challenger and to have a bike straight out of the box is great. Indian y'all outdone yourself
With someone of your height, you can get the footpegs moved forward a little. That, and more relaxed jeans, would make it much more comfortable for you.
I've an Indian Scout Bobber, which is much less sophisticated, but is so much fun to ride. The Chief is a beast.
They are so much better than the Harley, especially at the pricepoint.
You can easily do 60mph in 3rd or 4th gear. 🙂
You only really feel, and dislike, the naked bike bit, when doing motorway riding. On those back roads, it's just fun. I agree that they really should go with dual disc/caliper brakes.
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better👍
Those are mid-controls on the Chief Darkhorse. The Chief Bobber Darkhorse comes with forward-controls which would probably be more comfortable for you. Upgrading the shocks will put to rest any back issues. I also upgraded to a Comfort + solo seat. I can ride all day long and come home feeling fine. I even do some weekend touring on it. Don't worry, you can make the bike fit you! I have the bobber darkhorse by the way and it's the best!
When I'm do in Maidstone by the shell garage next I'll buz you ... and take my Harley-Davidson low rider s 117 with forward control's on for a ride ... i tried both bikes and picked the Harley-Davidson ... but did like the dash on Indian
Aye that dash is a work of art isn’t it, so intuitive 👍
Dude I feel your pain, I had to give up my chef for the same reason but it was my shoulders that had a problem
but listening and watching your first impressions put a huge grin on my face - that engine- nothing like it , if anyone is offered a chance to test ride the chief do not pass it up, it made me feel like Batman.😊
Always a pleasure watching your vids Bruce 👌. That enjoyment when you crack open the throttle never really goes, trust me! Take care and ride safe sir and see you in the next one 👍.
These bikes are made for customisation , I am sure it can be set up specifically for you.
I am not a cruiser fan (yet), but if I had to choose one, it would be an Indian.
I could almost see you with that bike in your garage Bruce, shame it got uncomfortable over time. Maybe good for short journeys though. I think I'd get a bad back too, still a Lovely bike :)
I LOVED it bud… for the first 30 mins or so, then it was torture😭
But I really think it was mostly because my jeans were too tight across the thighs - I got the next size up now and they’re loads better, so I’d love to try this again 👍
You need to try an Indain challenger. It's better all-around bike. Also better for big guys 😎👍
I'll mention upfront, I'm not into cruisers anyway, but my back simply wouldn't let me enjoy the ride with the seating position found on them. I do appreciate the looks and style of them though, and the Indian is a looker for sure. I also noticed that wee mobility scooter beat you off the line at the rail crossing...and she had somewhere to put the messages, just sayin' 😉😁
Any bike that makes you giggle like that must be good! 😂
I tried the bobber version a few days ago. I think you would benefit from the forward pegs, which you can fit to this aswell, no need for the full bobber version
Aye a few folk have said that, would be great to give it a go👍
@@teapotone nice! The bike I tried did have the short monkey bar handles, first time I've given anything like that ago. I wouldn't chose them personally, but quite enjoyed the feel. Although could see my arms getting tired fairly quickly being up.
That was from Krazy Horse too, I just live around the corner. Nice place :)
Loved the vid Bruce, drone shot was cool!!
Thanks bud 👍
I like the sound of that engine Bruce, but would want it in a conventional styled bike eg. gsx1400/xjr1300/zrx1200 and with dual discs up front to give me some chance of pulling up sharpish in an emergency !
Same problem as the Harley Streetbob, this has mid foot pegs but needs forwards. Think you can get them as an option.
You just love it...I like this Indian, I'd love a go x great review...🎉
Wondering how much longer I'd have to wait before you jumped onto an Indian.
I'm still waiting on a Road King Special review 🤞
If you want comfort and power try the Challenger.
Bike looks great. Seating position seems to. E like the Honda Revel 1100 T Rebel.
But like the looks of this better. And the sound probably a lot lot better.
But I do prefer the dressed up version of this one..
I am researching and looking to purchase my first motorcycle. I really enjoyed your review and commentary. It was very informative as I am trying to decide between the Indian and the Harley. I have been looking at Fat Boy’s and the Chief Dark Horse. Thank you so much for this video and review.
The cruisers don't really do anything for me. But the FTR looks like a lot of fun.
I felt the exact same way. It was nice. Loaded with great interactive features. It lacked clearance and braking performance. It should have dual discs and at least 5 more degrees of lean, that would be resolved with better suspension. Yes, I know it's a 'cruiser', but they're selling it as a bruiser cruiser, performance cruiser whatever the niche word of the day is. Went for the Heritage Softail instead.
The Sport Chief has all those features. ;)
Heh heh....i saw that footpeg scrape coming. The third eye jams shut pretty hard doing that. 😆
Only brand of cruiser I’d buy, my Roadskin jeans are lovely🤣👍
I love this style of bike but I could never own one for the reason you mentioned about your knees being high. I rode the Harley 48 with the added forward controls and the dealer looked at me like I'd pissed in his cereal when I said its too small. Even the big road glide felt too awkward and cramped. These bikes all feel like they are designed for children... Or Tom Cruise.
The position is like sitting on a toilet with one of them little boosters for your feet so your kness are up round your ears. What really sealed rhe deal was when I saw myself in a shop window and i looked like i was riding 125cc, most guys over like 5'10 look absolutely ridiculous on cruisers... So I've still got my big old Africa Twin Adventure Sport.
I've never seen such large license plates! Hahahah. Thanks for the video, I've been interested in the Chief DH myself, good to have such a thorough review.
would absolutely love one of these
I like the look of the rogue just something about it that appeals to me
I'd really like a go on the bobber version, looks cooler IMO 👌
I’m not into cruiser bikes and dislike the sound but I like this bike and sounds naughty, I even like the tft
If you’re after some bike jeans try hood jeans, customer service is first class and top quality.
It needs forward controls, they look like mids. I’ll never understand why they make cruisers with mids. Forwards would make a world of difference!
It does,makes a better ride
Can't believe you were in my home town and I didn't get to meet you 😂😂
Nice bike brother. The forward controls do take awhile to get used too. You probably would need to have the extended controls to let you stretch out a bit. Scrape those pegs!!!!!! Loved the vid!
LOVE the real facts being reported. Keep up being honest. This approach will serve you well;-)
Always am bud - you won’t get anything else here 👍
“Just wants to Punch anyone in the face” 😂 .....Now there’s an honest review...Made me smile 😊👍🥃🏴
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love the addition of the side profile with you sitting on it.
Thanks bud 👍
I had the same issue re inner thighs ache when I hired a Harley in the States. Took a few days to get used to forward pegs
Nice looking bike apart from the pipes. But I’ve still got a bit of my racing instinct in me still at 56 I think I’ll stick with me multi 🥃. Brilliant video 🤘
Primark! My Harley is not of Primark quality I'll have you know. Never ridden an Indian but they are well rated from what reviewers say (except by Harley guys!). Good review despite the Harley snub😅
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You need the forward foot controls and or the longer reach seat if you’re on the taller side:like 6.0’ or taller.
Probably all you need is different handlebars and a looser pair of pants and everything would be fine.
Great looking bike- especially the Chief Bobber🥰
Aye a few folk have said I should try the Bobber 👍
Very nice 👍 great review, thanks mate 👍
My pleasure bud, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Ha ha, love it! You've convinced that I just have to buy myself.....................................................................a 'Nash-Nulls!' tee shirt.
I know you are a tall chap, but it does look a little cramped, the mid controls are def more appealing than the forward controls on other cruisers for me as I have little legs, but the ground clearance would not be able to cope with the grunt of the bike 😀 I wish the HD Fatbob had mid controls, cracking looking bike... I can't afford either of these bikes, but I do like the idea of all that grunt!
I love the look of these bikes too but I took the Scout out for a weekend a couple of years ago and I was hoping this one would be a big improvment! Like you I couldn't get on with the riding position, too uncomfortable long distance. Great power for a cruiser but just flighty, cramped and low, I'm 6ft and 15 stone and couldn't get on with it. Ended up swapping with my brother on his old Shadow 750.
Quick question… are you wearing a rucksack with an airbag? Is that ok? I always thought the rucksack would impact the airbag being able to go off or would cause too much pressure onto you if it goes off?
You need to make the rucksack a bit looser if you wear an airbag vest
Good looking bike, except the rocket launcher end cans. Great review though, keep it up 👍🏻
Only thing that would put me off is the lack of dealers where I live in the north east of England
Lovely looking bike, but needs nicer end cans for me. Ive got the scout bobber and a nice set of vance and hines makes it sound like an absolute beast. The dash on the dark horse is impressive. Im torn between that and the more analogue speedo of the scout bobber. Great review as well, even with the imaginary auto suspension lol. Wish it did have that. Maybe ill move on to a dark horse bobber down the line
Ha Ha, it’s insane what your mind can do - I’d have sworn blind that the suspension felt different in each mode?! 🤣🤦♂️🤷♂️
@@teapotone lol. My only guess is the altered torque output from the different modes meant that the suspension reacted differently as you opened the bike up.
Brilliant review really enjoyed it.I think that looks the nuts shame you was uncomfortable,I think I prefer the fatboy but I haven’t ridden either, thanks Bruce 👍
I have always wanted to ride that motorcycle
And the water cooled engine 2 version 🤔🤔
Hope you and yours are doing well ❤️🩹
Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇲
If you like the Indian tech, engines and dash, etc, maybe you'd be more comfortable on the FTR?
I love everything about the styling apart from the display. Yamaha had a similar looking thing on their heritage models (also one on the Enfield meteor I believe) and I'm just not keen.
I felt like that with the Himalayan Loved the look and the good reports but couldn’t like it enough
There's tuning companies that turn this thing into a 131ci (2146cc) with cams and a tune.
Great bike just the footpegs are to high even at my size at 1.75cm. More dealerships would help to boost sales because the Indians are great bikes
Hi Bruce, enjoyed the video, it's a shame it was so uncomfortable for you, because after seeing so many riders of Harley's and Indians you only needed the waistcoat to be part of the chapter. Thank you.
O and regards comfort. I had a similar issue with the scout bobber with having to hang on when accelerating energetically. I changed the seat for the indian syndicate two up seat which provides a little lower back/bum support and that stopped the hanging on feeling. I think there are similar options with the chief dark horse. As for your cramped feeling im willing to bet that is a height and therefore leg length thing. Im six foot on the scout bobber and legs dont feel like they are up round my neck. Why dont you try the scout rogue, has the syndicate seat and slightly higher bars. May feel better
Cheers but I think it was more to do with my jeans being too tight to be honest!
I’ve bought some bigger ones now 😉🤣👍
@@teapotone lol very honest of you. I also struggle with similar issues haha.
Correct me if im wrong but l think you have the mid pegs on that...forwards are available for a better position.
What do you distinguish by comparing it to the Triumph Speed Master? Can you hi light the principal differences between the two bikes, not on features and numbers, but mainly concerning the riding filling that you get from one to the other? Many Thanks 🙏🏼
My xv1900 (2009) has 166Nm of torque, SO not much engine development over the tears as teh engine id from 20000 (i think)
It does look nice ,apart from the tail pipes look extremely long ,
Absolutely love that bike. Only thing not cool is those pipes... extra ugly and sound awful... but easy fix. So not a big deal really.. forward controls and different bars would probably greatly improve comfort..
Wish they made a trike.
Single disc put me off. Nice looking bike. I'll stick with my thunderbird.
where did you get the clear signal lights, or were they stock in the UK?
This thing about people not wanting to say anything bad about Harleys, means they'll probably never improve.
It's O.K. to like flawed things and own up to it people. 🤣
Mr teapot what’s happening with ur custom helmet
Hi, tea pot
I wanted to comment today because I had a question I wanted to ask you.
I am Japanese and I want the bike you show in this video.
But I heard that Indian bikes are more fragile than Japanese bikes too.
So now I am hesitating to buy one.
Has your dark horse had any breakage so far?
Also, I would appreciate it if you could tell me which parts of Indian bikes are more fragile.
Japan is very warm and humid, so I don't think it would be a good match for an American Indian bike.
Would it be difficult to have a dark horse in Japan?
It is a very cool bike and I would like to have one someday.
Your knees are up because the seat is too low. It's not you jeans....its the ergonomics made for a 5' 5" person.
Noice.... stunning bike
3:45 to 4:30 = perfect comparison to Harleys
Captain Price?
Tiger Jamie Glasgow
Great review
ZZ Top is back folks!!! Lol
I found the Breakout to be really comfortable and the Sportster
The ergonomics of the bike is uncomfortable. I don't like the mid controls. They should be forward controls with mini ape bars
The standard Chief will be more comfortable
love the brand what a bike ! harleys over rated !
Any vibrations when on the throttle ?
Not that I remember? If I don’t mention it in the vid, then I wouldn’t have noticed it 👍
ask them about the sport chief