The Biggest Cheater In Goldeneye 007 Speedrunning History

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  • Опубліковано 15 лют 2019
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    Today, we will take a look at one of the saddest stories in goldeneye speedrunning history. A story of one of the best players to play the game, who eventually fell to the dark side and faked many runs, eventually leading to his removal from the ranks. Thousands of hours sunk into the game by an extremely talented player, wiped from the history books completely.
    I'm excited to make a lot more vids, I've been working hard on making my recording set up a lot better and it shows on this video. As always let me know if you have any feedback!
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  • @karljobst
    @karljobst  5 років тому +5192

    You are a bunch of legends

  • @tigermunky
    @tigermunky 5 років тому +7955

    I didn't fake anything.
    Oh, OK, I faked that one, but I didn't fake anything else.
    Oh, alright, I faked 6 other runs. But everything else is legit.
    Ah whatever, I faked the others too, but I certainly didn't fake this one.
    Oh fine, I faked that one too...but I'm not a cheat.

    • @erwinlommer197
      @erwinlommer197 5 років тому +461

      There could also be some more fakes but everything else is legit.

    • @GlobalWarmingSkeptic
      @GlobalWarmingSkeptic 5 років тому +637

      I think we should trust him and keep all of his records. He seems like a pretty cool guy.

    • @codefive6480
      @codefive6480 5 років тому +399

      @@GlobalWarmingSkeptic yeah, he's so cool. Like, we all cheat and lie about 12 records every now and then. people are so irrational smh

    • @John_Longbow
      @John_Longbow 5 років тому +215

      Somehow this make me think about my ex wife.

    • @philtanics1082
      @philtanics1082 5 років тому +49

      Ha! I hear that John

  • @randyweller4622
    @randyweller4622 3 роки тому +1127

    "Nah, I never faked." "Okay, only these 3 are but the other ones aren't." "Okay, the other ones are too, but my newest ones aren't." "Okay, even my newest ones are too." And people are STILL fighting to keep him on rankings! Unbelievable.

    • @lennygirlthetruesavvysavag2410
      @lennygirlthetruesavvysavag2410 2 роки тому +4

      You are a great pet lover in the video has to be something you can get on to your own idea of Bernard's and the world

    • @anism0010
      @anism0010 2 роки тому +42

      The same reason why Trump became president

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 2 роки тому +26

      @@anism0010 How do you figure

    • @anism0010
      @anism0010 2 роки тому +28

      @@xenn4985 lies lies lies and more lies, yet he has actual supporters..

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 2 роки тому +49

      @@anism0010 Less lies than most other politicians. That's a good track record imo.

  • @commonmistake1942
    @commonmistake1942 4 роки тому +1815

    He should have just stopped cheating, they literally gave him second chance then continued to cheat after.

    • @brianjensen5661
      @brianjensen5661 4 роки тому +79

      @Greg Fakerson seriously. I can only doubt that any of his runs were legit now.

    • @TheGreatDrake
      @TheGreatDrake 3 роки тому +156

      Hell he tried to prove he didn't cheat by cheating.

    • @badvoodoo2097
      @badvoodoo2097 3 роки тому +72

      Getting caught cheating lying and then confessing then lying then confessing then lying then confessing it’s great

    • @littlemisseevee2309
      @littlemisseevee2309 3 роки тому +16

      @Greg Fakerson thats not the point? the point is they gave him chances and he didnt take them mate

    • @projectpitchfork860
      @projectpitchfork860 3 роки тому +5

      @@badvoodoo2097 Well you can't trust him in anything of this regard anymore.

  • @CloaksCosplays
    @CloaksCosplays 3 роки тому +2130

    “Henning is such a great guy, ya know?”
    Henning: *Pasando Goldeneye en Cinco Minutos*

    • @Ten2
      @Ten2 3 роки тому +279

      At least he didn’t have Coke Zero and pizza...
      *unless*

    • @startcasual3840
      @startcasual3840 3 роки тому +64

      Haha not many people got that but we certainly did :)

    • @CloaksCosplays
      @CloaksCosplays 3 роки тому +5

      @@startcasual3840 How ya'll liking the MNK rework in 5.4?

    • @spydertekd9370
      @spydertekd9370 3 роки тому +19

      I get that reference!!

    • @NguyenKien1808
      @NguyenKien1808 3 роки тому +11

      Minus the pizza and the coke lol

  • @holyknightthatpwns
    @holyknightthatpwns 5 років тому +2000

    In the first clip of his 2007 secret agent tied WR, Bond says "even trusted friends are capable of betrayal."

  • @chronovac
    @chronovac 5 років тому +4347

    Have you heard the tale of Darth Henning the Fast? It isn't a tale the moderators will tell you

    • @esteban20969564
      @esteban20969564 5 років тому +210

      darth henning was so skillfull, that he can "beat" world records by cheating his game and fooling most of the people without they even suspect him.

    • @threegenders201
      @threegenders201 5 років тому +148

      He could even keep the records he set, from breaking..

    • @dermetzger
      @dermetzger 5 років тому +92

      What happened to him?

    • @AndyHoward
      @AndyHoward 5 років тому +188

      @@dermetzger He could save others from being banned... But he could not save himself.

    • @gertkimsen
      @gertkimsen 5 років тому +103

      @@AndyHoward ironic

  • @littlecatfaceboi3072
    @littlecatfaceboi3072 3 роки тому +379

    This entire time I was just thinking "JESUS CHRIST MAN JUST STOP CHEATING YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT SO MANY TIMES"

  • @GoblinLord
    @GoblinLord 4 роки тому +170

    Henning seems less of a "I'm sorry I cheated" and more "I'm sorry I got caught" which I know the feeling of all too well so I can catch it easily

    • @co7769
      @co7769 Рік тому

      I am just in awe at how everyone was sucking this guy’s dick. In other games, when a player is caught cheating they are almost banned for life but not this idiot for some reason. The people in charge of moderating things at that time were not absolute legends at all.

  • @SpiritedSpy
    @SpiritedSpy 5 років тому +4351

    Me: never done anything productive ever
    Karl Jobst: hello you absolute legends!
    Me: :)

    • @marcusgraham5777
      @marcusgraham5777 5 років тому +22

      lmao

    • @knightlife98
      @knightlife98 5 років тому +56

      Ikr...lol!!!! Makes ya feel all warm and fuzzy inside, doesn't it!? 😊😊😊

    • @nigelchristian7491
      @nigelchristian7491 4 роки тому +3

      YES!!!!

    • @nottenouun8539
      @nottenouun8539 4 роки тому +31

      I always assumed that he's referring to someone else.

    • @MrDasfried
      @MrDasfried 4 роки тому +9

      Makes me always quite uncormfortable... Couse Yeah... Am just sittin on my fat ass Smoking weed allday and watch yt

  • @TrueShilic
    @TrueShilic 5 років тому +2538

    He cheated not only the game, but himself.
    He didn't grow.
    He didn't improve.
    He took a shortcut and gained nothing.
    He experienced a hollow victory.
    Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.
    It's sad that he didn't know the difference.

    • @rawr51919
      @rawr51919 5 років тому +60

      Essentially what Kristoph Gavin was in the Ace Attorney series. He fooled everyone, and himself (in a way), and faced the consequences for it.

    • @mikea4464
      @mikea4464 5 років тому +13

      Best comment

    • @r2dezki
      @r2dezki 4 роки тому +33

      One of my favorite memes.

    • @denoww9261
      @denoww9261 4 роки тому +20

      What's this from? I recognise it from somewhere.

    • @szinnias
      @szinnias 4 роки тому +22

      deNoww getting over it

  • @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087
    @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087 3 роки тому +54

    I love how all of his thumbnails look super clickbaity but actually mean something.

    • @Wayte13
      @Wayte13 3 роки тому +4

      It's more like the legitimate "here's a non-obvious thing and I'm pointing it out" thumbnail is something clickbait tries to fake by having the arrows point to nothing

    • @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087
      @aplanenerdandagamenerd9087 3 роки тому +7

      @@Wayte13 I'm just saying they look like they *would* be clickbait.

  • @avenged277693
    @avenged277693 2 роки тому +262

    Karl Jobst: "completely erased from history forever"
    Also Karl: tells the history in excruciating detail

    • @DJIncendration
      @DJIncendration 9 місяців тому +2

      also Henning: unnecessarily removed.
      The times that were legit should have stayed on the leaderboards.

    • @stuntboy0372
      @stuntboy0372 9 місяців тому +24

      ​@DJIncendration Imagine thinking that a person who consistently lies and manipulates people into thinking he's honest should have A fourth chance. Not saying the runs were cheated, but you don't look at someone who has a terrible track record and let them go just like that

    • @thehale_
      @thehale_ 8 місяців тому +3

      @@DJIncendrationSmartest default pfp

    • @tafua_a
      @tafua_a 8 місяців тому +18

      @@DJIncendration The thing is, when you cheat so many runs, one cannot in good faith assume that the rest of your runs are legit, especially if you're a skilled player. Every time he was given another chance, more faked runs were found

  • @ZachAttackIsBack
    @ZachAttackIsBack 5 років тому +883

    GameShark; the performance-enhancing drug for speedrunners.

    • @EveryTimeV2
      @EveryTimeV2 5 років тому +17

      Nah that's ritalin.

    • @tonygunk.
      @tonygunk. 4 роки тому +6

      No, if u want something weak drink like 4 redbulls

    • @chambeet
      @chambeet 4 роки тому +14

      EveryTimeV2 I’m guessing you’re actually allowed to take Ritalin for speedruns, though?
      I used to play Guitar Hero competitively (I wasn’t actually very good, but I’d record my scores, etc.), and I also used to use drugs, and felt that taking certain drugs actually made me a better player, but I wouldn’t count scores when using them, since I felt like it was cheating to me.

    • @SalvageET
      @SalvageET 4 роки тому +10

      I mean doping is not allowed in sports so I assume it also shouldn't be allowed in speedruns.

    • @jjgaming347
      @jjgaming347 4 роки тому +1

      Comedy gold :^)=)

  • @Larry
    @Larry 5 років тому +2892

    The Billy Mitchell of Goldeneye speedrunners :D

    • @josiahmcgill638
      @josiahmcgill638 5 років тому +62

      Hello, you fact hunt

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 5 років тому +17

      Yes, but Billy Mitchell can actually perform.

    • @lewisd5004
      @lewisd5004 5 років тому +8

      Hello youuuu! Love your vids, Larry. Keep up the good work.

    • @ElroyJetson318
      @ElroyJetson318 5 років тому +10

      I see you everywhere

    • @solidus4prez
      @solidus4prez 5 років тому +17

      Larry I love how you watch and support many of the same youtubers I do. But, hello you!

  • @kargaroc386
    @kargaroc386 3 роки тому +106

    The fact that he made that thread so fast, it almost seems that he was scared shitless, keeping an eye on people's opinions all the time, and jumped the gun.

  • @BigBrotherMateyka
    @BigBrotherMateyka 4 роки тому +96

    *"Even trusted friends are capable of betrayal."*

  • @whirl3690
    @whirl3690 5 років тому +185

    Even if he pressed A on the last possible frame, the weapon after unarmed is the PP7 anyway.

    • @gozinta82
      @gozinta82 4 роки тому +47

      "He could've quickly entered the pause menu, switched tabs, switched weapons, then quickly hid it last second" F**KING LOL

    • @Rarok666
      @Rarok666 4 роки тому +11

      peepee 7inches

    • @whirl3690
      @whirl3690 4 роки тому +3

      walther's pp is k

  • @robertt9342
    @robertt9342 5 років тому +604

    I am not part of any speed run community but I cannot understand how he wasn't removed and banned sooner. It wasn't a zero tolerance, it was like a 9 strike rule.

    • @nanakimurasaki
      @nanakimurasaki 5 років тому +42

      To put it in the simplest terms
      He was removed, lost all his records, lost all respect, lost all credibility to his runs.
      In other words banning the guy from the forum is no where near as harsh as what they did to him. He genuinely earned the right to be called a "cheater". If I was an admin in a community like that. I'd actually do the same and let them stay. The guy clearly was at least apologetic but only after being caught x amount of times. But not once did they show any obscene reaction from what we saw in the video. The guy was simply being a dumbass but wasn't bad enough to warrant a ban.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 5 років тому +21

      TheNanakisan . Sounds like he got of easy given how people were talking about him with so much admiration.

    • @Nick-ce6lt
      @Nick-ce6lt 5 років тому +35

      It's cos he was a cool guy : )

    • @swapode
      @swapode 5 років тому +58

      Reminds me of doping in cycling, especially the whole Lance Armstrong story. It was pretty obvious that he was juiced up to superhuman levels but lots of people, from his fans to the highest officials, had interest in protecting the american cancer survivor super star. There's a couple of fascinating documentaries about all that on UA-cam, well worth a watch.
      Cycling also shows that a zero tolerance policy is the only way to go. No warnings, no temporary bans, nothing. Sadly they refuse to learn that lesson to this day, so the golden eye community is better than the UCI.

    • @dtester
      @dtester 4 роки тому +39

      @@nanakimurasaki Speaking from experience, you don't want to have this kind of person around. You will never be able to trust him. "They" didn't do anything...he did it to himself.

  • @renav.3239
    @renav.3239 3 роки тому +32

    Henning must have gotten really swole, moving the goalposts that often. "Okay i did THIS, but I didnt do THAT. Alright I did THAT, but I didn't do the OTHER thing"

  • @jackfables3470
    @jackfables3470 4 роки тому +75

    And to say that, at that time, having cutscenes that actually change, depending on the player's actions, was such a novelty that many players actually finished levels multiple times : with different weapons, with different modes (such as fast or slow), with or without killing the enemies closest to the exit, with or without previously placed mines that would activate during those cinematics.
    So, how the hell could he imagine that no one would notice his end cutscene would not match the way he played ?

  • @TriceratopsUnicorn
    @TriceratopsUnicorn 5 років тому +1224

    Shocked they let him stay after he faked evidence to prove himself innocent.
    Also that was a powerful outro

    • @TvShopOnTv
      @TvShopOnTv 5 років тому +82

      im shocked it took him so long to get everything removed, proven to be cheating 500 times apparently wasnt enough.

    • @gsp3987
      @gsp3987 5 років тому +51

      Reminds me of how a lot of people defended Obama's, "like your doctor, keep your doctor," even though it's still a lie to this day. Some people are just completely blinded by their own biases.

    • @stevefox1200
      @stevefox1200 5 років тому +117

      @@gsp3987 Please don't, just don't

    • @gsp3987
      @gsp3987 5 років тому +38

      @@stevefox1200 You don't want to hear the truth, that's fine.

    • @JustAnotherPest
      @JustAnotherPest 5 років тому +37

      The mental gymnastics we'll run to defend someone because "I like him and I know he's really a good guy" or "at least he's not [person I don't like]" are as astounding as they are strong.

  • @zyvan3179
    @zyvan3179 5 років тому +2005

    Don't know why I'm watching this. Not interested in speed running or goldeneye but wtf I'll watch it

    • @asingularcheesepuff6383
      @asingularcheesepuff6383 5 років тому +74

      You and me both. Still interesting tho

    • @ryaquaza3offical
      @ryaquaza3offical 5 років тому +39

      I thought I was the only one tbh

    • @gav1nbeyond
      @gav1nbeyond 5 років тому +49

      This is how they suck you in

    • @bergiTown69
      @bergiTown69 5 років тому +13

      m2! its just interesting isnt it? and well done video

    • @blessuu
      @blessuu 4 роки тому +8

      It's crazy that's exactly how I entered the chat

  • @PepperDoom
    @PepperDoom 4 роки тому +27

    Henning: No one can fake speedruns as shamelessly as I do.
    Tavo: Hold my coke.

  • @luckydragonwolf
    @luckydragonwolf 4 роки тому +418

    That last segment hit me hard.
    Why?
    I’m going to be completely honest:
    I was technically an art thief.
    I traced art and didn’t credit the original artists. Nobody seemed to notice or care, and 2 years after I had done it, I went back and confessed to tracery, showing the original artworks alongside the traced versions.
    This was on an obscure app which I won’t name here, but in the community I was accepted to post in an art tag which was meant for only the best artists on there. As time went on, I felt guilt for the traceries and knew, considering how the community is, that someone would eventually go back and find the traceries.
    My conscience was literally screaming at me, and finally I confessed.
    People actually took it well, and they appreciated my confession. I am still allowed to post in that art tag, and now the traceries are way behind me.
    Confessing before you’re even caught is the best way to go.

    • @stardust6004
      @stardust6004 4 роки тому +60

      An Aldmeri Dominion Enforcer dude, everyone does things that they are not proud of later or don’t care about the possible consequences at the time of doing so. Nevertheless I’m happy of OPs decision to do the right thing later on and the reaction of the community shows again that an honest confession is the best thing to do most of the time. So no need to be offensive.

    • @omologo95
      @omologo95 4 роки тому +49

      Yes, confessing without being put under scrutiny is a respectful deed.

    • @luckydragonwolf
      @luckydragonwolf 3 роки тому +5

      @@420sakura1 no I was not, but how’s that related fo the topic?

    • @Bishtpd
      @Bishtpd 3 роки тому +8

      @@luckydragonwolf according to the rules of anime in Asia you are not supposed to bring dishonor to your family

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah remember if you confess?
      You'll be spared

  • @doublechindoge7
    @doublechindoge7 5 років тому +1750

    when you mis-click, but it's a good vid.

    • @ITSMRFOXY
      @ITSMRFOXY 5 років тому +48

      Lmao frame perfect

    • @tiza3583
      @tiza3583 3 роки тому +23

      Trust me it will save more frames later

    • @thatguy811
      @thatguy811 3 роки тому +4

      Lmao me too

    • @Xtremepoophead
      @Xtremepoophead 3 роки тому +1

      420 likes my friend! You did it

    • @doublechindoge7
      @doublechindoge7 3 роки тому +5

      @@Xtremepoophead Thank you poop, very cool.

  • @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427
    @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427 4 роки тому +253

    *I think we should trust him and keep all of his records. He seems like a pretty cool guy.*

  • @Memz23
    @Memz23 3 роки тому +53

    While this was a well put argument, I have to disagree on his runs being taken down having a negative effect on other speedrunners. If he is a cheat, getting him out of the community pretty much guarantees everyone else a more legitimate chance to compete. Personally, I think his first offense warranted the removal of all his records. Once a cheater, always a cheater. If he came back and had 100% verification of his new runs maybe we can talk, but everything before the incident is instantly discredited. When this first came to light, how many people do you think quit trying saying "If he can cheat, what chance do I have? I'm not willing to cheat, so I guess I should find a new hobby." I'm not trying to be mean, but fairness is all we have in competition. Without it, there can be no winner.

  • @jeremykothe2847
    @jeremykothe2847 5 років тому +345

    I'd be real suspicious of the people not wanting all his times removed. Do the people voting on this have any times themselves they're particularly proud of?

    • @hotpockets2224
      @hotpockets2224 5 років тому +3

      Good ovservTion

    • @samharper5881
      @samharper5881 5 років тому +40

      Yup. These are people who don't value honesty, clearly.

    • @handsomebrick
      @handsomebrick 5 років тому +106

      Good call, actually. The-Elite is founded on competitiveness, the thrill of moving up the ranks as high as you can go and defending your position. You'd think it would be a black and white issue for them: that guy fakes his times, I don't fake my times, therefore his records should be all thrown in the trash and my records should move up. If they seem scared by the possibility that people caught cheating have all their times erased, something's up.

    • @DelRae
      @DelRae 5 років тому +8

      The flaws of social protection

    • @jizzwardo9653
      @jizzwardo9653 5 років тому +21

      It's cause they liked him so they didn't want to see him banned.

  • @Alexo670
    @Alexo670 5 років тому +68

    Some say Henning is still out there... alive in some form... drinking unicorn blood to become a legend like karl.

  • @conflickt3130
    @conflickt3130 3 роки тому +13

    This guy after his first post: "I'm never gonna crack and tell the truth."
    Same guy 12 hours later: "I can't handle this, I gotta come clean!"

  • @jennyinutil2018
    @jennyinutil2018 4 роки тому +426

    Damn the clickbait red arrows are totally legit here.

    • @justinquintela3369
      @justinquintela3369 3 роки тому +6

      It is

    • @ShotokunWulf
      @ShotokunWulf 3 роки тому +1

      Nice

    • @cringe__6040
      @cringe__6040 3 роки тому +12

      You have a trans "peoples" rights flag and a big bird profile pic so I do not care

    • @khirek5335
      @khirek5335 3 роки тому +27

      @@cringe__6040 it's not a bird it's actually a giant dragon thingy that walks on 4 legs and has horns

    • @epkurnissheoway
      @epkurnissheoway 3 роки тому +39

      @@cringe__6040 it's a kulve taroth from monster hunter.... also that sounds kinda transphobic ngl dunno why their pfp mattered

  • @Hachiae
    @Hachiae 5 років тому +717

    it it my ignorance on the speed running community, or does goldeneye have the most drama of any speedrunning group

    • @RedHairdo
      @RedHairdo 5 років тому +159

      Surprisingly, not even close.

    • @Hachiae
      @Hachiae 5 років тому +57

      @@RedHairdo oh please tell

    • @kingjames4886
      @kingjames4886 5 років тому +241

      there's a whole documentary about donkey kong drama...

    • @bbynmmyneedddy8954
      @bbynmmyneedddy8954 5 років тому +95

      Because all secret agents are a little bit dodgy

    • @hotpockets2224
      @hotpockets2224 5 років тому +182

      Theres a bunch of drama about some guy who got an impossible completion time in an arcade drag racing game

  • @dannybowers8017
    @dannybowers8017 5 років тому +357

    This puts the entire speed runners community's credibility in question if their so willing to let a cheater keep his place in the records

    • @imaremi351
      @imaremi351 5 років тому +50

      whiterottenrabbit
      *triggered*

    • @dannybowers8017
      @dannybowers8017 5 років тому +63

      @@whiterottenrabbit so angry over a simple "thier" i apologize for the sin of bad grammar

    • @sludgerat666
      @sludgerat666 5 років тому +2

      @@whiterottenrabbit dang.

    • @stephen3293
      @stephen3293 5 років тому +7

      @@whiterottenrabbit hahahaha calm down

    • @FlokiTech
      @FlokiTech 5 років тому +15

      @@whiterottenrabbit Reeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @madgenus
    @madgenus 4 роки тому +32

    Removing the runs of a splicer who repeatedly lied "goes against the best interest of everyone else who continues to speedrun and uphold the INTEGRITY of the game." Yeah, sure.

  • @picklepastepete
    @picklepastepete 4 роки тому +29

    The message at the end about being the best you that you can be was my favorite part of this video

  • @Perpetucake
    @Perpetucake 5 років тому +165

    The ending message of this video is stated incredibly well and I hope it inspires people to have honor in their speedrunning careers as well as their lives.

    • @mathprodigy
      @mathprodigy 5 років тому +3

      Agreed

    • @josiahmcgill638
      @josiahmcgill638 5 років тому +4

      >honor
      >speed running
      >career

    • @JamieTannerPresents
      @JamieTannerPresents 5 років тому +1

      you nailed it!
      this, unfortunately, is the tip of the iceberg.. cheaters gonna cheat and there's a whole lot of unchecked vids out there. I think live events is the only way. security watching the carts and consoles carefully

    • @Perpetucake
      @Perpetucake 5 років тому +3

      @@JamieTannerPresents I don't think the youtube comments is a constructive place to continue the never-ending proof standards debate, and I've spoke on this topic at great length before in other places. I do want to stress managed expectations, however. The time required to complete these achievements is beyond unreasonable to have employed, unbiased, knowledgeable security at a live event monitoring hundreds of hours of runs. A counter-point stated against simply having live streamed, or even simply video captured is for accessibility- and statements like this are often used in the claim that improving proof standards is a slippery slope.
      This is why I stress honor and appreciation as deterrents and motivation for achieving goals. A strong, passionate community built on these ideals can go much farther (and grow much larger) than requiring a bunch of mostly hobbyist gamers travel across the country or world to sit in a room for days with security guards staring at them as they play a video game.

    • @thetruthwillout9094
      @thetruthwillout9094 5 років тому +2

      What lives? You obviously don't have one because your sat on your arse playing computer games all day.

  • @dustinschouest8405
    @dustinschouest8405 5 років тому +61

    I gotta say Karl, the speech at the end of your video had me feeling good.
    I am wanting to learn speed running, especially Goldeneye and the original RE titles. My times are absolute garbage compared to even decent runners but I keep trying.
    That message can go for any hobby. I'm an active fly fisherman. And I learned early I cant judge my own skill based on what I show others or how more experienced anglers see me. I make my own worth.
    Thanks for the amazing videos and entertainment Karl. Keep it up

  • @markm734
    @markm734 3 роки тому +14

    It's like in a court of law: once a witness is shown to be a liar, you have to throw out all of their testimony.

    • @borkerman
      @borkerman 3 роки тому +2

      Your wrong, I played enough ace attorney to know you get them to keep testifying until it's discovered they didn't see what they saw or confess to the crime

  • @Dominick_twu
    @Dominick_twu 2 роки тому +120

    I love how some of “the speed running community” was completely fine with someone cheating, with proof. However, if you’re a new/rising person in the ranks you are obviously faking it or cheating. It makes me sick how some of these people had no problem with Henning cheating then when someone new like Rayan starts submitting times back in the day he was vilified.
    Maybe it’s just me, but from what I’ve seen the “community” seems toxic as hell. It’s almost like you have to be born into this shit to be taken seriously. It’s a joke.

    • @JackTheripper911
      @JackTheripper911 Рік тому +16

      Thats why "the elite" is the most pathetic group of speedrunners on the internet

    • @catscanhavelittleasalami
      @catscanhavelittleasalami 4 місяці тому

      Humans are idiots. They'll give someone a pass just because "he's nice and popular guys"

  • @OfflineSetup
    @OfflineSetup 5 років тому +266

    "community": We hate cheaters, scum, Never trust a cheater, total outright BAN!!!!!!".
    "community": Ahh, yes, but, no, wait, yes, hold on, ....."
    Time and time this happens in all forums. It makes me suspicious of their integrity.

    • @corinabanu7556
      @corinabanu7556 3 роки тому +42

      Tbh the Doom community is the only one I've seen being consistent about this. They really won't take cheating from anyone.

    • @seantaggart7382
      @seantaggart7382 3 роки тому +5

      Its like their "Integrity" disappeared from their soul

    • @Bourikii2992
      @Bourikii2992 3 роки тому +3

      What do you expect from a community of people that literally cheat to go fast through levels.

    • @SuperNerd000
      @SuperNerd000 3 роки тому +5

      Projection is a hell of a thing.

    • @fort809
      @fort809 2 роки тому +6

      @@corinabanu7556 Minecraft too. The bedrock community completely banned Dream when he got caught cheating in the PC version, even knowing that he’d lie about them and that his fans would harass them to the end of time

  • @DanRamGim
    @DanRamGim 5 років тому +213

    Your ending got me in tears, I am having a difficult time in my life, but as you say I should not derive my self worth from what others have achieved, I must set my own goals and try and be satisfied of the effort I am making even if I am not the best. Thank you

    • @IntenseLizard
      @IntenseLizard 4 роки тому +10

      it hit me as well, hope youre okay bro.

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 3 роки тому +5

      Watch Jordan peterson man.

    • @anti-ethniccleansing465
      @anti-ethniccleansing465 Рік тому

      @@martymcfly88mph35
      Lol! The irony of your avatar, while promoting Jordan Peterson, is absolutely hysterical with how ironic it is. You really don’t know enough about him, do you?

    • @martymcfly88mph35
      @martymcfly88mph35 Рік тому

      @@anti-ethniccleansing465 lol, what argument are you trying to start? "Dr Jordan Peterson is a communist"? Is that really it?

  • @sodaddict
    @sodaddict 3 роки тому +17

    This is an important lesson that i never take for granted: Patience brings the bigger reward
    Had Henning spent just a little extra time to perfecting his runs instead of splicing, he would not only be respected, but would have kept his hard work in the history books, and would have even learned something along the way.

  • @briandietz9524
    @briandietz9524 3 роки тому +10

    I still come back to this video every so often because of the speech at the end, specifically the part starting at 13:34. Speedrunning aside, this is perfect advice for anything that comes up in life, and brought a tear to my eye. Thank you for this.

    • @zenmikey
      @zenmikey 8 місяців тому

      Gonna necro this comment and point out how much Aerith’s Theme adds to it.

  • @theendofit
    @theendofit 5 років тому +62

    Catching a half decent cheater is alot harder then people think.
    If he just posted one or two of these hed probubly never have been caught. He had what 20+ faked times scattered around and even then it took 2 years to notice them all.
    This is another reason why all times must be thrown out there is no way to know for sure he did not cheat every single time.
    It may very well be that hes crap at golden eye and just a good editor and cheater. And only got caught due to the combination of posting way to many cheated times and geting lazy and complacent thinking it was easy to trick people why wast so much time making the fake times so perfect when no one will notice anyway.

    • @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427
      @xxunilizzyxxxxunilizzyxx5427 4 роки тому +1

      *thAn*

    • @ryanwalsh5019
      @ryanwalsh5019 4 роки тому +8

      Makes you wonder how many of records are faked, or if there are any that are legit. Seems like more of a competition as to who can cheat the most without getting caught.

    • @504gucci4
      @504gucci4 4 роки тому

      @@ryanwalsh5019 Patriots do the same thing , but they try to walk on the line where it's technically not in the rule, then the rule gets change and then they try something else

    • @vincevvn
      @vincevvn 3 роки тому +2

      It’s mind blowing how light on punishment cheaters get in speed running communities. That’s why so many people cheat because the worse that can happen is a slap on the wrist. So moronic

    • @youtube-kit9450
      @youtube-kit9450 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, just a complete purge of any time pre-2015 or whatever that isn't a direct livestream, doesn't have video evidence, or isn't that demo stuff from doom.
      Standard is that speedrunners have to show their rig before they start up anything and have their hands and face and the recording visible at all times. You know, just the basic measures to make sure someone's not cheating.

  • @jakeevara
    @jakeevara 3 роки тому +18

    It's amazing how much time I spend on this channel, despite having no real interest in GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, or speedrunning in general. I just think Karl makes great, interesting content. 👍

  • @JoeVannoy
    @JoeVannoy 3 роки тому +21

    I love the "darker side of speed running" videos. I think these are cautionary tales that need to be told.

  • @EdwardHowton
    @EdwardHowton 4 роки тому +20

    8:40 I can't help but think "Sock accounts owned by Henning defending himself".

  • @jishatinkle7504
    @jishatinkle7504 5 років тому +11

    How can someone be a cool dude, if they’re being deceitful? The dude just kept on lying and cheating and admitting to it, yet people kept defending him. Is this some kind of cult of personality situation?

  • @kngpin41
    @kngpin41 3 роки тому +8

    Plot twist: Henning Blom is still speed running under another tag.

  • @paonquinho
    @paonquinho 4 роки тому +12

    12:29 Imagines Henning Blom praying at an altar and Ryan White falling from above with the Masamune aimed straight at Blom's heart.

  • @evamiller4886
    @evamiller4886 3 роки тому +29

    I’d assume some of the accounts posting in his defense are him. Anyone willing to fake a world record speed run is more than capable of making a few alt accounts on a forum

    • @mccarthy5825
      @mccarthy5825 2 роки тому +1

      Oh for sure. I would absolutely believe that. Sure I've seen where some people have 'sleeper' alt accounts where they just pepper the Post history a bit and then all of a sudden these unknown accounts with a handful of random posts burst to life and start defending the person.

  • @AndyYumYum
    @AndyYumYum 5 років тому +26

    Aerith's Theme accompanied by the statement at the end was amazingly done!

  • @fucklinkingmyaccount
    @fucklinkingmyaccount 5 років тому +9

    Your videos keep getting better Karl, keep up the great work.

  • @dankachilles9356
    @dankachilles9356 4 роки тому +2

    I'm a year late Karl but the ending of your video moved me in a way that I both needed and didn't even see coming. Thank you Karl, a year later, from the bottom of my heart for your kind words. You have no idea how much I needed to hear those words.

  • @Sextusheap
    @Sextusheap 3 роки тому +6

    I never understood cheaters. Cheating in any game, even Minecraft , ruined the fun for me because I know its not me winning. Henning must be good at lying to himself.

  • @skatersirian
    @skatersirian 5 років тому +20

    Clicked for the story, stayed for the life lesson.

  • @pauljamieson9908
    @pauljamieson9908 5 років тому +5

    Thank you very much for sharing, Karl. You absolute legend 👍☺

  • @kqrulz3000
    @kqrulz3000 4 роки тому +4

    Every time I hear you call me a legend, it makes me feel great about myself. Instant like before the video even starts, as always. Thank you Karl!

  • @yves_23
    @yves_23 3 роки тому +1

    I love the inspirational message at the end there. Thank you, you absolute legend.

  • @AmoralTom
    @AmoralTom 5 років тому +6

    The end speech goes well beyond the realm of speedrunning. It is admirable and I commend you for it

  • @GardinerBlue
    @GardinerBlue 5 років тому +65

    Henning Blom: I swear I didn't fake any other times.
    Ryan White: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

    • @eisgnom7383
      @eisgnom7383 4 роки тому

      I have to always think of clue because of the names

    • @brianjensen5661
      @brianjensen5661 4 роки тому +2

      Funny cause Ryan got caught doing the same shit.

    • @usualunusualkid7149
      @usualunusualkid7149 3 роки тому

      @@brianjensen5661 I'd like to read more about this

    • @eymed2023
      @eymed2023 3 роки тому

      As Ryan put it himself: "It takes one to catch one".

    • @eymed2023
      @eymed2023 3 роки тому +1

      @@brianjensen5661 Yes, both Ryan and Henning cheated runs on a frigate.
      The thing is, Ryan stopped cheating after he first got caught, and took it upon himself to write a new proof policy. He moved on and wanted GE leaderboards to be taken seriously. So after some reunion with other runners, they declared a new zero-tolerance proof policy.
      The thing about Henning is he never stopped lying no matter how many times he got caught. Heck, I dare say his BEHAVIOR was worse than his cheating.
      The best way I can put it is Henning didn't just cheat the game, he cheated his own fans. I'd argue he's more comparable to a lip-sync artist than a traditional cheater.

  • @LifeWithMatthew
    @LifeWithMatthew 4 роки тому +3

    I just came across (and subbed to) your channel. I don't do speedruns but your breakdown on how they are accomplished and the sad stories of the cheaters are well done and fascinating!

  • @meystryke5255
    @meystryke5255 2 роки тому +1

    Seen a few videos now. Thank you for making these. They're really nifty.

  • @decrepitjew2572
    @decrepitjew2572 5 років тому +3

    "You absolute legends" has become a catch phrase like "my friends". Good work man, loved the vid.

  • @vigs_
    @vigs_ 5 років тому +6

    Love the music in this video Karl ❤️😁
    Much Love from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @PrimevalDemon
    @PrimevalDemon 2 роки тому +1

    scars of time! lovely and poetic choice of soundtrack considering the subject of discussion! been loving your videos and have been binging em this past week! very enjoyable and informative! a rare and delicate balance!

  • @celineawproductions
    @celineawproductions Рік тому +1

    This is still one of my favorite Karl Jobst videos. The speech at the end is some serious words of wisdom. Would go along way to have it be more of a standard and pushed idea in the speed-running community. Love you Jobst, you're awesome.

  • @bluediamonddirector
    @bluediamonddirector 5 років тому +45

    Keep up with the videos dude, I really enjoy them. You absolute legend!

  • @damonb2000
    @damonb2000 5 років тому +3

    The background music at 0:44 gave me a nostalgic stroke dude, I couldn't focus on the video anymore damn the flashbacks

  • @someoneout-there2165
    @someoneout-there2165 Рік тому +1

    I love that you're playing Donkey Kong Country music in the background. Definitely the best musical score for a game ever, it really gets you in the feels.

  • @strawberrylemonadelioness
    @strawberrylemonadelioness Рік тому +1

    I really love seeing speed running clips from the early 2000s, it shows how much things have changed, and I love seeing VHS recordings of runs too. They add a certain feel to them.

  • @ChromeDonutGaming
    @ChromeDonutGaming 5 років тому +3

    This is the first time I'm watching a video from your channel and simply calling your viewers legends is awesome
    You got a new sub

  • @machineofadream
    @machineofadream 3 роки тому +33

    Okay it's been like 8 years now. Maybe we can reinstate his times since he's a pretty cool guy.

    • @VelkanAngels
      @VelkanAngels 3 роки тому +1

      @@levieverhart8640 - Pretty sure he is, lol.

  • @stepheng8061
    @stepheng8061 3 роки тому +3

    Those last 2 minutes
    I actually teased up a bit. Thank you Karl

  • @Lauren_Tyler
    @Lauren_Tyler 3 роки тому +1

    Well said near the end. That part about setting one's own personal goals is important to remember.

  • @emailjwr
    @emailjwr 5 років тому +10

    I love how you played the Aeris death theme on when describing him being deleted 😂

  • @chuychongas
    @chuychongas 5 років тому +18

    I subscribed, now I feel like an absolute legend

  • @Bigben154
    @Bigben154 3 роки тому

    I just wanted to say, thank you so much for your amazing videos man! You even gotten me interested in trying out some speed running in the original DOOM!

  • @mustanggt33
    @mustanggt33 4 роки тому +8

    That moment when I learned that I was suddenly ranked 6th instead of 7th lol :)

  • @nappkins9346
    @nappkins9346 5 років тому +50

    Chrono Cross opening music. Most emotional track of all time. So apt. Great video Karl. Aeris 😢

  • @dept-7443
    @dept-7443 5 років тому +23

    Two arrows? Shit, this is gonna be good!!

  • @Lowebotz
    @Lowebotz 3 роки тому +31

    I hope that Henning has genuinely learned from his mistakes and has moved forward.

    • @stronglift1873
      @stronglift1873 3 роки тому +13

      Legends has it he's still faking speedruns. But with another name

    • @Enigma1788
      @Enigma1788 3 роки тому +23

      Highly doubtful. Dude got caught time and time again, and yet he kept doing it. People like that never fucking learn.

    • @madvtecyo546
      @madvtecyo546 Рік тому +1

      People like him don’t. And his actions show it

    • @jasonmartinez5116
      @jasonmartinez5116 Рік тому +1

      Henning likely retired after his ban

    • @oneandonlyjaybee
      @oneandonlyjaybee 4 місяці тому +1

      Moved forward, whilst going diagonally and looking at the floor

  • @Elab2369
    @Elab2369 3 роки тому

    I am not sure but I love hearing your voice and listening to all of these speed runs . Thank you

  • @StainedShuriken333
    @StainedShuriken333 5 років тому +5

    That outro was great. Every person on the planet needs to hear something like that.

  • @dannyaudio5054
    @dannyaudio5054 5 років тому +10

    Very professional video, need more views

  • @caseysanchez5303
    @caseysanchez5303 Рік тому

    Damn bro made me tear up a lil at the end. Keep being awesome Karl

  • @CC_Th1rst
    @CC_Th1rst 3 роки тому

    13:29 - Man, that outro hit way harder than I imagined anything could to me right now... I'm extremely competitive by nature and my 2021 New Year's resolution is going to be that I will stop getting so frustrated and angry with myself, when I lose at video games, or feel like I underperform. I'm way too hard on myself because I always feel like I could have done better to the point where certain things stop becoming fun. The fact that I could sit down with myself and logically come to that conclusion, then the next completely random UA-cam video directly addresses everything I just thought about, is kind of ominous with the timing... You saying those kind words at the end, directly addressing what I was feeling, makes me feel better about my performances and validates me. I can't compare myself to other people.
    Keep up the good stuff brother. I hope you can help others out too.

  • @raphwalker9123
    @raphwalker9123 3 роки тому +10

    Those "people" defending him were probably just him on fake accounts.

  • @raamzilla
    @raamzilla 5 років тому +4

    I'd recognise that track any where, the good ole GTA V Pause music. Nice pick, Karl

  • @mikeveroni
    @mikeveroni 5 років тому +2

    That gta music u have is so good gives me goosebumps. Your the absolute legend!

  • @TIRK125
    @TIRK125 2 роки тому +5

    13:46 - 14:01. 15 seconds of pure wisdom. Thanks for being awesome, Karl

  • @khepri3266
    @khepri3266 5 років тому +5

    My friends, it just keeps happening. Karl Jobst's videos keep getting better.

  • @PLTINSAIN
    @PLTINSAIN 5 років тому +4

    You're doing God's work here, awesome video!

  • @dannyb982
    @dannyb982 4 роки тому +1

    This guys videos are addicting. He has a way with words.

  • @TheHunters_Wall
    @TheHunters_Wall 4 роки тому

    Pretty late but found this channel late as well.. and couldn't agree more. Competition sure can be hard in all ways of competition. And is sad when someone that has so much potential falls for their own feet. The last part when you say how sad it is when someone is pretty much gone from history is moving. And pretty much sums up how sad it is to see people fall and is gone..

  • @thebeyonder8814
    @thebeyonder8814 3 роки тому +3

    To this day, Hennings is still confessing.

  • @etherealessence
    @etherealessence 3 роки тому +8

    How you win is just as important as winning. That's the lesson. This is the consequence.

  • @dynagamerproductions8249
    @dynagamerproductions8249 4 роки тому

    All I could think about at the end there was Aeris. Great vid btw Karl!

  • @aggelos_
    @aggelos_ 3 роки тому +1

    Love the videos!