10 Speedrunners Who Were Caught Cheating
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- 10 Speedrunners Who Were Caught Cheating
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Todd's Interview w/ Kotaku: kotaku.com/doubt-and-drama-st...
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Todd Rogers Playing Dragster: • Todd Rogers Playing Dr...
Todd's Fake 5.54 Post: atariage.com/forums/topic/3415...
Retro's Video on Cheating in Speedrunning: • Cheating in Speedrunni...
GothicLogic Exposes holymoly2207: docs.google.com/document/d/1r...
holymoly2207's Spliced Run: • Video
One of TSA's Spliced Runs: • Video
TSA's Runs Removed From SDA (you can find his response here): forum.speeddemosarchive.com/p...
One of TSA's Splices: • Dat Splice (aka TSA is...
GoronGuy Admits His 5:19 Majora's Mask Run Was Faked: / goron_guy_admits_his_5...
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theifbug's paste has been deleted
Henning's Spliced Frigate SA Run: • GoldenEye 007 (N64) - ...
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"I would really prefer if you'd be quiet": • "I would really prefer...
Chibi Cheated Summary by YetiHype: • Chibi CHEATED?!? - A s...
YetiHype Answers Questions about Chibi: • Video
FLYING's Fake GTA:SA Run: • Video
KZ Exposes FLYING: • The 4:01:13 San Andrea...
New Way of Detecting Splices in Super Meat Boy: / new_way_for_detecting_...
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The people who can detect these cheats need to investigate murders wtf
I'd say that'd be a more responsible use of their uhhh... "talents". I honestly don't know how they have the time to watch all these runs, let alone with such an eye for detail they'd see this sort of thing.
- Forensic Files:
The False Speedrun
voteZDLR I doubt they'd even bother watching and analyzing a speedrun for cheating if it isn't in the top 10 times.
@@sheriffaboubakar9720 I guess
@@sheriffaboubakar9720 No socialised human being would bother analyzing a speedrun, period.
"You cheated on a speedrun."
Him: "I was born at a very young age."
i don't get it
晶彩世界Peggy Him: “I was *born at a very young age*”
The floor here is made of floor.
At age 6 I was born without a face
Lmboooooooooooooooooo
People: **exposes the cheaters**
Speedrun cheaters: I was born with glass bones and paper skin. Every morning I break my legs, and every afternoon I break my arms. At night, I lie awake in agony until my heart attacks put me to sleep.
Lol. Nice SpongeBob reference.
Love it
This made me laugh too much my neck hurts badly
this made me laugh so hard, want some chocolate rn, maybe with nuts
@@cm5g im scared
11:08 “That didn’t seem right. I’m accusing you of cheating.”
“You’re right. I cheated and I’m admitting it.”
“Thank you.”
Lol what universe is this
The best one.
Canada
The universe of common sense.
It's a quick mistery from rick and morty. Who did it? I DID here's the knife with all the blood on it.
Just two npcs having a conversation in oblivion
“Gets exposes for fake speedruns”
His explination: I had depression at the age of 15
Sounds like hes talking to chris hansen
East Coast Rider seems legit
Just Because you feel bad to yourself it doesn't mean you can cheat in a speedrun!
if you want to cheat in games,do it offline and DON'T Upload the run!
Sanicbiscuit exactly
Explination? Really? Lol
I like how one of the biggest speedrunning scandals is based on a game where you just tap left on a controller
Almost 69 likes
LPSP what's with this 69 stuff?
@@samirjohnson4524 cause of the sexual practice.
@@1989Ezal FR!?
@@BajaToxic I hope you just didn't tell an 8 year old to look up something questionable.
2014: fake "the legend of zelda" speedruns
2020: fake "american dad intro" speedrun
2000 : super Mario 64 and super Mario bros speedruns
2020 : super Mario 64 and super Mario bros speedruns
Fake? Wait, what? You mean to tell me American Dad isn’t on the GameCube and N64?
The American Dad intro speedruns are real, what are you talking about?
Who would have the audacity to fake an American Dad Intro Speedrun
@@thetopicwarden8926 Billy Mitchell, probably.
Todd was like a kid caught with his hands in the cookie jar, and saying the cookie jar went to his hand.
Ok, that's probably the funniest analogy of Todd Rogers I've ever heard.
It makes sense, you have to take into account the human element of how the jar would respond.
In his defense, the person who caught him wasn't there.
If any part of you happens to be in my mouth, it's you're own fault, pie!
Homer simpson
"When I was 15 I started having depression issues"
Yeah okay, but what tf does that have to do with cheating in a VIDEO GAME?
I love how someone in chat could instantly, with his naked caveman eyeball and without checking a recording tell that a jump wasn't frame-perfect.
That man probably has spent more time trying to get that run then the time it took Valve to make TF2. I'm pretty sure it's burnt into his brain at this point.
even by watching the video it's pretty easy to see mario begin to lose height, isn't that hard
UZ my thoughts exactly
Never doubt weaponized autism
Naked caveman eyeball? Lmao
I actually have clinical depression and anxiety. Taking 2 different drugs for it and about to be prescribed a third. Guess it's time to fake a speed run.
gamer moment
I attempted suicide better fake a speedrun
Nobody cares loser
@@gyphryphobia edgy
WizardNinja I know you can get the world record!
Apollo Legend. The name that will be remembered by the speedrunning community as one of the best speedrunning youtubers in the history. Rest in Peace.
what happened?
@@Death.Died0 He committed suicide
@@Death.Died0, He speedran life.
@@spilledmilk4801 Jesus Christ
@@spilledmilk4801 lol
Moment of silence for our brother. RIP Apollo. You were a legend.
RIP.
@Roth Asta Tf is wrong with you?
What happened to him?
@@bobmarobs8376 he killed himself nearly a year ago
Were? More like Is.
nobody:
Speedrun cheaters:
"It all started on the day of my birth, both of my parents failed to show up."
Phineas and Ferb!
Poor doof
Doofenshmirtz
I still wonder what was going through the doctors head during the delivery
@@beefboss1853 The glass from the test tube probably, they saw the future and offed themselves...
Update: holymoly2207 deleted his run.
Thoeny65 I think he deleted his channel 👀
Thoeny65 holy moly!
Haha
@DerpyFish01 he changed the name lol
Link to his channel please
“You’re cheating, you spliced your run”
“I have depression”
"Right then, in that case lead on"
bro i literally found this channel about 7 hours ago, what the actual fuck, rip
Same here these videos showed up on my suggestions and by sheer curiosity I happened upon the news in this comment section. I hope his family and friends find peace he seemed to be a decent guy.
If you want to fake a speedrun, at least make sure it's possible.
but it is possible...if you take in account the human factor
Multiapplecat Todd Rogers is beyond human feasibility, you cannot comprehend the Marvel of his playing.
The issue is the game is not a human element. It's code and will always behave in the same way given the same input. All possible Imputs were tested and that time was not possible
I beat Half-Life 3 in 4 hours, 2 minutes, 45 seconds.
NEW WORLD RECORD.
@@murrfeeling I beat it in 10 mins
-Bro I caught you, this is not a speedrun, you were cheating! Anything to say?
-Well yeah at the age of 15 I suffered from depression.
"You banged my wife, anything to say before you get an ass-whopping?"
" Well yeah, at the age of 15 I suffered from depression."
Mycroft Lannister You are accused with the charges of raping the Queen of England. Anything to say for yourself?
Well yeah at the age of 69 i suffered from depression.
Bro, you murdered this dude!
- Yeah well, at age 15 I suffered from depression
"I was born with glass arms and paper skin...during the day i break my legs. At night, i break my arms."
GLa TRES oh well that makes everything fine sorry for that
"You cheated!!"
"In my defense, neither of my parents were there when I was born. :("
HAHA HOW LOLZ
shut up your not dr doof not admit it you cheated. (my responce to if someone tryed to use that bullshit on me its like what my grandfather said "you cant bullshit a bullshiter")
this was the first apollo video i ever watched, i remember getting it in my recommended one day and it really helped me discover speedrunning and even pour some time into the hobby myself. so saddened to hear about what happened. RIP
Same bro. I'll really miss the guy.
Same I just found out that he died
@@kizuki8962 LOL
@@Cat-yx7xc tf
@@Cat-yx7xc The hell is your problem? Why would you even laugh at something like this? This is heartbreaking.
the amount of forensic work it takes and eye for incredibly minute detail tells me there's some talent in the speedrunning community that's being underutilized...
Tony C Tru
Tony C
Gaggedw
I'm pretty sure there's already a name for it: weaponized autism
So much wasted talent
Kind of like a group of people using star charts, plane route mapping and the background noise of frogs to find a flag.
"When I was 15 I started having depression issues"
Yeah okay, but what tf does that have to do with cheating in a VIDEO GAME?
Im not saying this to be an excuse of any kind. But i think it's a seek of congratulations of sorts
@@justinhopkins626 That's pretty low.
MarkyPaligs And the person behind it must have been pretty high.
Actually I shouldn’t have even posted this
@Hulk Hogan This coming from the guy with the Hulk Hogan pfp.
@@olivebranch7769 no u
RIP Apollo, you done well in helping us with learning about cheaters
rest easy, man
I did not cheat, it's bullshit, I did not cheat, I did naaaaaaht.
LuigiaTV "Oh hi Marc"
What a story
anyway, how is your sex life?
Everybody betray me! I'm fed up with this world
LuigiaTV oh hi Apollo
He had the balls to commit to an interview, the least you could've done was hold back on the "dirty cheater" comment.
There is also the fact that it was 10 years ago, and the guy makes youtube videos about speedrunning to this day. According to his history it makes sense that he just wanted to bring attention to it, so I really wish he'd get SOME recognition for that.
I don't think he did this to discredit the guy, it may have just been lazy writing. I just think he should've given the guy the benifit of the doubt before dissmissing him as a cheater and nothing else.
He's a dirty cheater.
Dude whitegoose is an anti-semitic piece of shit.
@@danielhernandez2575 No he isn't. He's an awesome guy
*Get caught cheating*
Excuse: "I was born on my birthday"
so you where born when you where dead
people die when they are killed.
I wasn’t born on my birthday can I legally fake sppedruns
Have watched this one video somehow multiple times over the past few years, thank you for making the content you did Apollo, we will miss you. Rest in piece bud.
the guy with the joystick in the beginning reminds me of my brother whenever he screwed up on guitar hero, "CLEARLY IT ISN'T CALIBRATED CORRECTLY!"
This can be a real thing though. There are also guitars that double strum when you flick it once if not pinching the clicker. The calibration is super important when you are trying to stretch and get an optimal score. It's not like you couldn't adjust if it is slightly off, but if using sound cues that you are used to hearing on your setup, you will miss stretches consistently if you don't calibrate.
@@DimebagDerekS oh I know it can be real....but it wasn't happening every single time lol
Sometimes one of the buttons on my dad's guitar hero controller don't work, then I must wait for it to work. It's really annoying when it's a real issue but luckily I don't think it happened in the middle of the song, only at the start.
Well actually it was annoying during online play
guitar hero the new one? i played the old ones for years smash hit metallica 3 etc until my guitar died from abuse even then i still did it, i loved hearing the music it was my poor mans mp3 there you go my life story your welcome
"There we go, guys. I am now a verified cheater."
Well, at least you deleted the run.
Hey, gotta test the system to find bugs.
Zwataketa, The Aspy Gamer Yeah, I understand that to be honest.
Nice. That was amusing.
Larus McMahon
No, he showed a video of him deleting a run. This video has made me very skeptical of video evidence, including that.
shelvacu Oof, you're right. Didn't even thought of that.
Man, I remember watching your videos back then, you brought me so much joy. It sucks that it had to end this way. Lived up to your name, RIP Apollo Legend.
Rest In Peace, Apollo. I’m gonna miss you.
Never trust a 50 year old man with a ponytail
In a different life he could have been Ron Jeremy... but video games ruined it for him.
😂
Never trust a 50 year old who still plays video games. Time to put the toys away.
never trust a ... man with a ponytail
never trust a young person wasting his precious youth commenting about some old guy and his toys.
"I admit it. I cheated."
"I believe it was an honest mistake."
Uh, what?
Maybe he meant "it was honestly a mistake" which still doesn't fix anything, but yeah.
Maybe they meant it in the sense that it was a mistake in judgement? I don’t defend them either way. Cheating is deplorable.
Chibi is kind of a weird dude in the speed running community. I think Apollo is kind of taking pity on him for all the shit he takes.
Brandon Johnson a mistake is not an accident, a mistake is misguided judgment.
Ye mistake = bad take, SW(is)M is right.
Who comes back here to watch these videos. This was definitely top investigation and quality journalism.
RIP Apollo Legend. You are definitely missed.
Rest in Peace man. I’m devastated to hear you’re really gone. Thank you for everything you’ve done for us.
Idk i kinda respect the guy that actually accepted the interview
Goose is a good guy now (and he makes awesome UA-cam vids at RWhiteGoose), he was just a dumb, angsty teen then. Sinking hundreds of hours of grinding into a single level only to get pipped by someone else, feelsbadman. I think he might've been having personal problems at the time too. He owned up to faking after only a week (can't remember if he was caught or just came clean though) so he's at least taking responsibility.
Hype 420 how you gonna believe that bs? 'Yes I cheated so they took drastic action, it was devil's advocate, I'm a good guy really!!' Lol, sure mate
Katja Senpai
Go to his YT channel: RWhiteGoose. He has two (long) videos in which he addresses the subject: one about the history of cheating at The Elite and one about the "lore" of the Frigate level (both fantastic videos). He's right that, at the time, proof moderation was a shitshow, and he was fighting for better standards even at that time, but I don't believe those were his primary reasons for cheating. He was just being a drama queen.
That said, this all happened 11 years ago when he was still a teenager, it was only one time (unlike Henning), and he owned up to it shortly after. Everyone did dumb shit when they were a teenager, but if you judge him as the man he is now you'll see he's a good guy.
He also saved my son Ben from drowning, he's a good boi. People make mistakes, you can't just lord that over them for the rest of their lives. Even if what he said sounded a bit iffy, he has done a lot for the speedrunning community since then and has redeemed himself.
Yeah me too, he gives a very open and honest story. Meanwhile this dude that runs the youtube channel apollo legend constantly shits on _everyone_ in the video, even the guy who appears in it for the interview and then he wonders why no-one will show up for his """""""interviews""""""""
How is intentionally cheating an "honest mistake"?
And indeed, knowingly passing off a segmented run as a single-segment run. If they actually submitted them as segmented runs then nobody would have had a problem. No 'honest mistakes' in sight.
Nate the Great he probably meant it as in "cheating was an honest mistake" as in it was stupid to do and he regrets it but idk oof
exactly, i didnt like hearing that cause in the video he speaks down on all the other runners for cheating but when chibi does it? nah honest mistake hes a cool guy
my name jeff Agree wholeheartedly. That comment made me cringe, shocked there aren’t more comments about it here.
Nate the Great It was a mistake in judgement you fucking idiot
RIP Apollo. It’s crazy that I had his videos stuck in my head all week leading up to everything. Sleep well, Sir.
"Sir, can you show how you're able to get this time that others claim is impossible?"
"I would, but the sun is on my controller and the screen is too sweaty, I need a better console as well, because this one is just too heavy to play on, and the cameras make the game function slower, it's just not possible to do on camera, or in front of people, or in interviews."
It's stupid cause MAYBE he could get away with it with trying and not succeeding because obviously just because you establish a world record doesn't mean you can easily do it again.
Using these pathetic excuses makes it only more suspicious.
Still never been caught yahooooooo
SimpleFlips outshouts to pimple tits
Shoutout to simpleflips
Speedrunners hate him
SimpleFlips I bet if we look at the bups, we’ll find the inconsistencies
FIRST TRY, IDIOT
There should be speed splice runs to see how fast someone can get footage for a speedrun, edit it, and get it verified. That's taking speedrun cheating to an art.
Vladimir Putin we need to go deeper.
lmfao i would gild this if reddit
That is an amazing idea!
*inception sound effect*
Spliced TAS runs... is that even a thing?
You will be missed.
Rest in peace. This was the first video I've ever watched from Apollo but I ended up watching many of them after. Goodnight. Legend.
speedrunner caught cheating ON THEIR WIFE during a speedrun
erica *ON THEIR WIFE*
Wife cheating on a cheating speedrunner.
*in the hood* *gone wrong*
Speedrunner cheating on speedrunning cheating on wife cheating on husband cheating on cheating cheating cheetos
tmaz85 saying that out loud made me laugh so fuckin hard omfg
I'm not interested in the cheaters, but more so the detectives. That Super meat boy one was absurd
Then you'll love the detective work that went into figuring out a run is spliced in a link to the past. goo.gl/cLqAbm
RichterVonFuchs interesting read, thanks
hyyyoooo what is up Rick
Funny thing is if they had decent editing skill they would never get caught.
There was a video I watched where a speedrunner showed how he thinks when he plays a game. A lot of speedrunners (or at least, the ones watching record runs and participating in the communities) watch people playing games frame-by-frame paying attention to the smallest details because that's the way they play their games for their speedruns. If something doesn't seem right, they pick it up and can determine what's wrong pretty quickly while the average non speedrunner wouldn't realize something was amiss.
That's my theory anyway.
The video that introduced me to the speed running community I’m grateful for that may you Rest In Peace.
Rest In Peace Apollo. You shouldn’t have gone this way.
"Im a verified Cheater" LMFAO
I mean, at least he's honest about it.
true
he was testing the system, so big props to him :)
Hey, I made a job out of that! :)
“The joystick is broken”
“My computer is broken”
“I don’t have enough storage on my computer or camera”
*what did technology ever do to you.*
Idkthatgirl23 technology lives matter
Idkthatgirl23 You forgot about depression at the age of 15
Tony McCrea his computers running slow, at 15 years old maybe it's got depression
Fkn lag
But can it run Crysis?
goodbye good sir. We will miss your commentary. To the family, I love you, and I grieve with you
Rest In Peace.
The "checkerboard pattern" is also known as "jpeg compression artifacts", often used to check if an image was photomanipulated or not.
Bayandur Pogosyan why do people wanna cheat so fucking much At everything
@@quintoncameron4725 Because they want the clout instead of just enjoying the art of speedrunning.
I think that could also be faked though, if you're dedicated enough.
@@DaBonkinator too much effort, tbh. Anything you do at that point will be destructive to the image and can result in other signs that the image has been tampered with.
@@quintoncameron4725 well, when I started playing multiplayer games back in the 90s, I found out I wasn't as good as I thought I would be against real people. I've written, as a journalist, on the problem of MMO games - when all are exceptional, nobody really is.
It is hard to be faced with the prospect of never being the best in a field, especially when you're this close. So people either do it the hard way - "git good" - or take a shortcut: fake it.
So it's mostly about wanting to be special. As zhengyingli justly stated, the art and science of speedrunning were less important to them than being special.
Respect to the guy who actually admitted it and didn’t make a excuse he’s just straight up admitted it
*Zephyr*
I don’t know. He made some kind of “for the greater good” excuse. That he cheated to save the website
Kyle Schaff Devil's Advocate is a legitimate reason
5 years later, this video is still great. RIP Apollo
This is the video that got me into speed running and that community. Rest In Peace, Legend.
Alright fine youtube, you've had this video sitting in the sidebar for months so I'm finally watching it now!
Mandrid Hugh very much the same for me.
Right, after it sitting there for so long I caved. Just had to get rid of it finally.
I've pressed the 'not interested' action multiple times over the entire course of this videos existence and STILL it won't leave my sights!
Mandrid Hugh same
Mandrid Hugh same
#1 Verified Cheater: Apollo Legend
*insert Trust No One Not Even Yourself meme*
can we trust squidwards house?
Nope
Yes.
😐🔫😐 Here it is in aids emotes
he right doe.
especially don't trust people who try talking you into not trusting your own healthy doubts.
those are the ones who ram a knife into your back, when you least expect it.
god the news of his suicide hit me hard RIP dude 💔
Huh
@@bc_7644 He took his own life on December 30, 2020
@@NEELZE99 Sorry I'm unaware of the event, who killed themself?
@@bc_7644 Apollo did
@@adrienbrody6778 yep, I read up about it since my comment. Tragic end
We miss you big homie!!
My Gramps was a big golfer. He told me a story of how he was 1 stroke off a P.B. He chose to lie and tell his golfing buds he had finally done it. A few weeks later he legitimately hit that same score. He was surprised at how much better it felt when he actually hit this score only this time he couldn't brag he had to keep it to himself since he already lied about it. That story always stuck with me. And since he told me that the idea of cheating just seems silly. These are games were talking about and you play them to achieve personal goals. Lying, cheating just seems sad when you see it that way.
I like this story.
me roo
Well people do that for """""fun""""", ofcourse to nobody else it's fun and seems really pointless and stupid but some people just like dicking around on dead online games with cheats for some reason. I still play the old CoDs every now and then and see them a lot, and this is the reason they seem to have, as a form of dumb trolling. Sometimes they're really funny people who just don't care about the game, although I don't think that justifies ruining others' experience. But then some of them genuinely want to pretend they're really good at some dead game, so it's stupid either way
Tony Matarrese tru dat
overclockeador You're talking about Unreal Tournament aren't you
Goose admitted within a week to his spliced run and then came back and helped write the new proof policy standards for the elite. In fact he was the one who caught Henning's frigate 1:00 run, which at that time was an untied record for almost two years.
He sure did. I love his SpeedLore.
Wow. It’s cool when people are able to fess up and turn around like that. Humility can be a good thing!
That's so Goose. rofl. In every way
He pretty much cheated on purpose to prove a point. Same with why Apollo made this video and cheated a spliced run to prove a point.
IIRC he didn't cheat to prove a point (though he did think the proof standards sucked), he cheated because he'd sunk so many hours into the level and felt he "earned" the record (knowing he COULD get it despite never ACTUALLY getting it). It was legit, childish cheating, but he's learned his lesson.
still one of my favourite videos, been coming back to it ever since I first watched it. gonna miss this man a lot.
Man, this video got me interested in speed running years ago. Thank you, RIP
I cheated on my slow run. I accidentally ran.
Damn bro
Digital Gamer underrated.
I feel like this is a PeanutButterGamer reference
how DARE you!
10:32 "Chibi is best known for his couch commentary at SGDQ 2014..."
*APPLY COLD WATER TO BURNED AREA.*
Its always called couch commentary at GDQ. It wasn't a burn...
@@auraguardianred4771 Have you *seen* Chibi's couch commentary at SGDQ 2014?
I assure you, it's a burn.
@@auraguardianred4771 I would really prefer if you'd be quiet.
It's no use.The damage is already done.
this video introduced me to the speedrunning scene RIP legend
Me too, it sucks so bad to hear what happened, I wish he could still be with us.
I know he did a lot of stupid stuff but i generally liked his videos and im going to miss him...
I've seen this sentimate a lot, what exactly did he do? I'm not into speed running and I've only occasionally watched Apollo's video so I'm genuinely curious.
@@dickindynamo Hello, if you do a UA-cam search for "apollo legend darkviper". There a video of a guy explaining it in detail.
@@vivalaJamie01 Thanks for the info my dude.
*Paranoia in the speedrunning community intensifies*
its like the digital version of doping.
Todd looks like a used car salesman who doesnt know how to sell cars.
He looks like an asshole
@@theD0gfish all those backwards long jump schmucks coulda gotten to bowser instantly if they'd started mario in second gear.
A *Used Car* Salesman or a Used *Car Salesman?*
I bet every single one of his speedruns is fake. None of them are even *slightly* real. They're all 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999% fake. Even his shirts are fake ones from China.
I love how mundane his commentary is. It adds to the shame of being caught cheating to have a male version of Lisa Simpson describing your fail in a totally dry and boring way.
It's like a modern-day Chris Hanson.
@@RetroIsaac don't you dare insult the legend Chris Hanson. Also, modern day? As if Hanson isn't around?
@@Xeno_Solarus you still think that?
@@Xeno_Solarus Well this didn't age well...
"Something doesn't doesn't seem right, i'm accusing you of cheating"
"You're right, both were faked"
"Thank you"
Welcome to Canada
@ierdnA adrecaL yea same dude
as a canadian i can confirm
as a canadian observer i‘m happy to dropship the last like for your comment to reach the 200
@@melaniefeher1609 thank you
I couldn't cheat. It would gnaw at me for the rest of my life that people admire my fake record...
I can't even cheat at a family game of monopoly. Its weird to me to get something you didn't earn.
I think the problem with cheaters is that they excel at nothing. Think about it, you don't cheat because you know it's wrong, but also because you probably have that one good thing that you are amazing at that people know you do really well. There is no pull for you to lose your reputation by risking it all because you like the reputation you have already. Cheaters don't have any of that, so they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
@@DamienDarksideBlog They can potentially excel at cheating if they don't get caught
I could totally do it, I'm just not good enough at any games to be able to speedrun them... lol
feels too wrong for me, too.
I love the fact that some of the speedrunners actually admitted to cheating because of good sportsmanship.
It does end up making me respect them a slight bit more then if they claim it wasn't cheating when it clearly was
Or they just don't care about it because they are now grown up and have better stuff to do than cheating records for a game lol
Chang Ye
Either way, it shows that they are willing to admit wrongdoing and have no intention of doing it again. Whether it’s out of noble intent or not, it’s still a nice touch.
@S H I Ω I N G You can develop good sportsmanship after doing something stupid, my guy.
why are you people so naive and soft, they’d do it again in a heartbeat.
Ok but can we just admire the Goldeneye speedrunner who actually admitted he cheated?
Sara Klingenborg He exposes cheaters on his UA-cam channel now. I actually recommend watching him.
Conrad Nickelson But he did redeem himself as a person by making his UA-cam channel expose cheaters.
Conrad Nickelson bro he cheated a speed run hahaha he didn’t rape and murder anyone that’s an awful comparison
Yeah I THINK it should be easier to redeem from cheating a speedrun rather than raping and murdering a woman but that's just my opinion.
I’m pretty sure that guy thinks he’s a master manipulator and is probably continuing to cheat, now undetected, and now with a channel to ‘front’ with.
props to the guy owning to his mistake and showing up to the interview
didn’t he say that he did it to show how easy it is to cheat, because that sounds like one big excuse
Watch Karl Jobst video on the same subject. The true story is way different than what he told Apollo. The community had a period where they could tell if they had faked runs after he got first exposed and didn't come out that more were faked. The world record may be legit but in the aftermath many more of his runs were found to be fake.
If you think you have no life, think about the people who cheat in speedrunning
well, they are actually doing something productive, unlike people who do speedrunning.
Snooby66 How dare you take a break! Get back in the factory you toddler!
mhm izme Except for those people it’s their job, that they’re paid for.
If you think the people who cheat in speedrunning have no life, think about the people who investigate to catch them cheating at speedrunning
Kazu Nabe You literally just copied mhm izme.
I cheat in wii fitness
I replied
moodles you'll probly get the same results from beatin off
Yeah me too. Thats why im still so fat
I'm calling the police.
you're dispecable person (jk)
TSA: "I just want to say that I've never cheated a speedrun but through further analysis I found that I have in fact cheated a speedrun"
Rest in peace, Apollo. You're no longer suffering.
At least Goose admits it and is willing to talk about it. Whereas everyone else tries to justify it.
sad apologist
he does justify it though.
Lando Well I suppose that's true, but I feel like he had a better explanation than "oh I have a crappy pc"
I don't think he justifies it he just explains his reasoning and thought process behind it at the time. He was one of the main people who was trying to get cheaters banned from the leaderboards entirely so I doubt he thinks he was justified.
Goose is legit a chill guy.
The audio at 14:09 ... This review is itself a fake run!
Bidoof definitely a splice. Can't fool us
14:13
Bidoof it can be used for editing. It's not a speed run. Idiot.
Minecraft Fan23039 Its a joke. Idiot
GizmosAndGadgets The fact that you were 100% confident that this was not indeed a speedrun made me laugh XD
You're too young for the internet kid.
Rest in peace Apollo.
What happened to him?
@@totallyacurate7778 He committed suicide
@@lowdilemma is this like a joke meme or something?
@@troywright359 no he actually did, theres videos showing his last words
Rewatching these old videos, rest in peace apollo
I find goose to be the most respectable one shown in this video.
he's openly admitted to the shenanigans of his youth and is doing his best to move forward while producing fresh new content. I'm not sure i agree with calling him a 'dirty cheater'.
You are also cheating sir. The audio at 7:36 sounds different than the audio on 7:38. Good video though!
*oMg RePoRt HiM!1!1!1!1!*
he's going to lose his wr in "Exposing Speedrunners" Any%
Yeah, so many obvious splices. Guy's just an obvious faker.
Ikr what a low life
@@fightmaster-xu6zw Yeah!!! Breathing is over rated!
We all miss you, you absolute legend. Rest In Peace Apollo.
I searched "Projared cheated on his wife" and this was a result
youtuber drama = speedrunner drama
sounds about right
"Thats why I rate this a broken marriage out of 10"
He's trying to be the fastest career destroyer in the world
he definitely has a WR for that
@Johnny Revenue cheating on his *wife
Now I’m no speed runner but....
Why the hell did that Chibi guy get an “honest mistake” free pass. Since when is cheating and refusing to admit it until presser considered an honest mistake
Honest mistake *in judgement* Also he didn't refuse to admit that he was cheating, he said he didn't splice with intent of cheating.
*+GTpcGaming* The moment he spliced with intent, he automatically had the intent of cheating. What you speak of makes as much sense as having salty food with no salt.
lol so he used his autism "Get out of jail free" card? Like Chris-Chan does?
Chibi didn't splice though, he used action replay. Which is still cheating, but yeah that doesn't deserve an "honest mistake" free pass.
+Sif
Goddamn sploicers!
"I have had depression since I was 15"
Dude, don't even try to guilt-trip me.
Rest in pease Apollo, this is my favorite video of yours 🥺
Okay UA-cam. I watched it. Happy?
Hello I am a representative from the UA-cam heroes program. Since this video is popular it will be in your recommended feed for many weeks. Enjoy!
I'm gay and I like to shove traffic cones up my ass
Best comment EVER ! XD
you can take videos out of your recommended feed you ducking duck
Yes, Damn it! UA-cam forced me to watch this. ffs.
*I AM ACCUSING YOU OF CHEATING*
I REJECT YOUR ACCUSATION OF CHEATING SINCERELY!
YOU HAVE COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST SKYRIM AND HER PEOPLE
George Harrison YOU HAVE NOT BEEN EATING YOUR NOODLES
Flippant Balloon I HAVE NO IDEA
NOPE.AVI
This man deserves a huge praise. So much heart and passion put into tearing down what each SR cheater did and also showing us truly just how easy it is to submit a false spliced recording. Really opening our eyes to just how many people are taking shortcuts to take the satisfaction and pleasure from all those who spend countless, countless years of their life devoting to a speed run testing skills, muscle memory and frame perfect movements 100% of the time. A good example is the Super Mario 64 speed runs, both visual and blindfolded attempts. Good on ya Apollo Legend, for a first time viewer, this video was very enticing and entertaining nonetheless!!
thanks for making what you made. your content was interesting and gave me perspective about a community i would have otherwise not cared to look into. rest in peace, dude.
The RWhiteGoose guy is cool all around and it's way more respectable that a guy would admit cheating and openly talk about it, but I did feel like he tried to start playing the "hero" card there at the end by saying that part of his reasons for cheating was to exploit how wonky of a verification system it was. I just don't know how much I believe that.
i would stay not believing at ALL. if he wanted to exploit the system he would tell that his cheated time got accepted right after it. that like trying to rob a bank and after being busted saying something like: " i only wanted to show how weak the security system is. you can't act like i am a real bank rober
Yep
So many speedrunners who cheat have the lamest, most pathetic excuses.
But RWhiteGoose is still in the Goldeneye speedrunning community. A speedrunning community that has had a lot of issues with cheaters and been surprisingly forgiving as well. He by all accounts has gone legit, doesn't make his excuse seem less suspect though. XD
Shame about the whole hating Jews thing.
@@RonPaul42069 and people of color.
And disabled.
And...
I get Chibi might not be a 'bad guy', but to call splicing speed run footage an 'honest mistake' is being far too kind. It's an extremely dishonest, calculated decision.
Yes, but it gets worse: if I recall correctly, he fucked the wife of one of his friends, while they were drinking away.
RedHairdo Actually, that was Stiv who had sex with Sam's wife.
He didn't splice, he used a gameshark code, not that it changes your point that much.
Well, to be fair he's not wrong, a mistake by definition is a decision you made that turns out to be negative... Not saying that makes it any more honest or not, but that's literally what a mistake is, a bad decision.
What are you talking about? An honest mistake is like leaving the keys in the car, or bumping into somebody on a crowded street or misspelling a word in an email. You can make bad decisions by accident, with no bad intent, hence the addition word 'honest'. This was not that.
Miss you buddy
Coming back to this legend's videos always makes things great. Awesome content, really well made and well researched. We'll all miss him so much. RIP Apollo :(
This video is a year old at this point, but I don't think I've seen anyone mention it. I hope no one actually got mad at you for the intentional splices submitted, especially since you deleted the one that got verified anyway, but there is a such thing as penetration testing. The fact that you've proven it's still possible to splice runs and get away with it so long as it's within human reason, is a good point that the checks for validity do need to be improved upon.
Also, this was really informative!
Im just barely watching in 2019 lmao
its called being lazy or having a bad day
@@xgc_darkrise2418
Me too!
White-hat run faking.
Well, I would understand if the people checking those runs would be mad at him, he basically stole more than 2 hours of their life checking for cheating (probably more time)