I'm continually fascinated by the depth of knowledge and the attention to detail in these Ancient Egypt videos. They truly bring the mysteries of the Nile to life!
History professor for 40 years. Now, at 79 yo going on Viking Cruise on the Nile. I have read several books and watched many Dr. Chris Naunton lessons. I am ready for Viking Hathor in Sept. 2024.
I'm Egyptian. I thank God that the Brits and French decided to ship those treasures away from Egypt. Egypt at the time -- and you could argue, still today -- dominated by an anti- enlightenment culture, namely Islam. People in my own country of birth were then -and to some extent, even today- clueless as to the importance of this history, when they are not actively trying to destroy this heritage in the name of some religious lunacy. So, stop being apologetic about this.
thats an interesting point aye and nice that something good came from it, but i still feel that shouldn't have been a choice for europeans to make and that it isn't exactly what they had in mind when they took most stuff, it was mostly for wanky white people to feel more cultured. plus the fact that many museums refuse to return items shows how they don't really care about cultural preservation but keeping the monitary value for themselves. I also imagine most other cultures whos treasures have been taken don't feel the same way and would like them returned. *don't mind my ranting i find this interesting* the opinion of preservation also differs between cultures eg, Pakeha in NZ "preserved" Maōri heads by capturing and beheading indigenous people, sure the heads are historical artifacts that now are surviving in museums, but the family (whanau) of the people and the culture would prefer returning to the earth once more and completing the circle of life. Its not preservation, its preventing rest and peace of the person who was decapitated. -- my point is: super cool that many items have been able to survive but still there is a lot for us europeans/ colonisers to be apologetic for, looting no matter who or how one does it is bad
The people insisting that artifacts must be repatriated are woefully naïve about the treatment of antiquities in the Middle East. Despite the best efforts of scholars, even in Turkey things have a habit of disappearing or not being studied or made available to the public.
@@beckyjordan2770 The “colonizers” in Egypt were acquiring items that the locals were either already selling or did not care that European archaeologists were taking back to Europe. The Islamic tradition that Egyptians were a part of at that time did not place substantial emphasis on the pre-Islamic past aside from the prophets and kings common to the Jewish and Christian traditions. Even today management of antiquities in the Middle East is highly politicized and prone to corruption.
Imagine a vase you made during a pottery class becomes buried & uncovered thousands of years later, shipped to a country thousands of miles away, & put into a museum people pay to see almost every day & marvel at.
Well done documentary, but not once was an Egyptian person mentioned - not even the foreman of Carter's work crew, who supposedly is the one who found the stone step of Tutankhamen's tomb. For a modern piece of historical writing, that was a strange omission to me. Belzoni didn't "move the colossus" by his own strongman self! And many modern Egyptologists are Egyptians.
“Return all the artifacts” is a nice sentiment until you have actually spent time in this region and understand how quickly things disappear into the hands of those connected with whatever government is in charge or have enough money to buy them. Then no one can appreciate or study them.
It's crazy, but if a country today just went and took a bunch of stuff from another country like they did back then....I think it wouldn't happen on such a large scale before it would be stopped...I hope...
Earliest form of "archaeology" was treasure hunting. Even though modern archaeology would never do this, native looters continue to actively cause much destruction. Given the immense amount of buried historical material, I'd be surprised if even 1% has been removed to other countries.
@@enriqueteruel6574 I would beg to differ. They knew it was there and just didn’t care as the Egyptian society collapsed. Few people could read or write and if those who could disappeared, knowledge is lost. Almost like Rome. Population didn’t suddenly vanish. Nobody knew and/or cared how to maintain what was there and didn’t care to rebuild what was destroyed. Also Athens, South America, Asia. Many places get abandoned outright and forgotten but, well, pyramids in the desert are hard to miss.
The great favor done archeology and posterity by the French with their magnificent volumes, seems to myself as having been essentially selfless and serving of Necessity. As only one smaller example: the then somewhat surviving Theater at Antinopolis, built by command of Emperor Hadrian for his new city dedicated to the drowned Antinuous-Osiris, was very well documented. Today, there, the original is totally gone, it having been picked apart by builders using it for their material! But for the French of then and their exquisite work, we'd now know nothing of it. Hats-off to them, I say!
Egypt under successive Islamic rule had limited interest in the antiquity and many of the major sites today were under sand. The Ottoman historians native to Egypt prior to European archaeology did not take significant interest in the pre-Islamic period aside from how it related to the Koranic presentation of history.
4:15 What? Are we seriously going to conflate King Tutankhamun with the Pyramids? One minute in and I want to say Good Bye,...yet I am hungry so I will continue to watch... I hope there are no more confabulations dressed up as history for the lay viewer Edit: I apologize just after five minutes. Disculpe, Disculpe, Maximus Disculpe
Almost everything that could be looted was looted already. Selling mummies to make paint pigment (mummy brown). Locals weren’t maintaining anything and well, they were occupied too.
Ugh! The British Museum is a blight on modern civilized society! It should have been emptied out, everything boxed up, organized and shipped promptly back to its original owners just as systematically as when it was stolen. (If not more so.) I always go right to the obligatory example of Stonehenge, well aware of how cliché, because it's as true as anything. The U.K. wouldn't tolerate for a second some foreign people coming in, condoning off, and then hauling away the ancient megalithic structure back to their country, whether they invoked; "conservation," or tried using posterity as a justification or not. The fact is; the historical artifacts kept locked up inside the British Museum, (let alone all of the other Museums and Universities around the Western World, particularly in the United States, Canada, France, Australia, etc.,) no more belong uprooted from their points of origin than Stonehenge, if it were to be dug up and carted away somewhere else. And that should be obvious, especially to such a supposed; "educated," civilization. Since the proliferation of the internet, especially, and the ability for just about every human being to have access to any information available therein, with modern computer and cell phone technology, there hasn't been any justification whatsoever for those significant cultural artifacts to NOT be sent back to their rightful owners. Beginning with the British Museum. Then, Berlin the Louvre and all the way down to the most relatively obscure, like Eugene Oregon, Carson City Nevada, and of course Philadelphia, New York and Washington DC. (And every one in between. Correcting the mistakes of the past, colonialism in particular, (and there are some atrocities that can never be fully made up for,) was never going to be easy, but that one effort would be a start. If healing the world's deep divides is ever to stand a chance. (I'm just sayin' ✌️) #ConstructiveCriticism #DontShootTheMessenger
This statement is so dumb. The archeologists would not have been allowed to find anything if not invited. Nothing would have been found if they did not come, there was no real interest in looking. All European’s aren’t evil. Just sayin’.
So, Champollion beat out the Brit in the translation game but, did not Howard Carter more than make up for it? I'd say. WHY no "Sir" Howard Carter??? Might have there been special honors and recognition granted him by H.E.M. King Fuad? Well at that time political factors were intervening, which might well have gotten in the way in both cases. (Lecau!) How about a posthumous granting of knighthood to Carter by the present H.M. King Charles? So many questions; so few answers.
Egyptians had to have been Saharians heirs? What lies to the west the direction Egypt dedicated to death and a symbolic setting sun. What lies still undiscovered buried deep in ancient valleys beneath the sand and sand dunes ?
And the only reason it took the English so long was because the Chrsitian religion suppressed history and ancient knowledge for almost 1,000 years - wild. The Christians and governments even spread myths of Giants when people asked about roman structures in England Napoleon had access to this information and he didnt care what the politcal and religious powers told him - he was against the supression
Sorry I usually love these documentaries but calling colonisers “brave European souls bitten by the exploration bug” had me leaving this video in a heartbeat. Do better.
Shocked no one else has said this. The rest of the comments are from long time history buffs who view history from their white lens and their white lens only.
The title should be more fitting like : history of looting and colonization in Egypt... The only good thing this petty thieves did was at least document what they stole. One day all those museums will be almost empty, I'm hoping to be alive to see it.
IMO-While arguments can be made, post-hoc, for safe preservation of Dynastic artifacts, the entirety of export of Egypt's treasured history, was the raping of a culture. Shame on France and England, and anyone who participated. Repatriate all Egyptian artifacts!! If safe preservation is the aim, the world can offer financial support for a "grand world museum," sister to the new Giza Museum. Time is long past this historic crime should have been addressed.
It's sad to see all the looted treasure still sitting in British museums as a national point of pride. It belongs to Egypt you greedy bastards, give it back already.
Of course the items should be returned to their home countries. Taking items to western countries was part of colonialism. No matter if the items were ‘gifted’ or ‘sold’, because of the power imbalance the trades can’t be considered fair, equal nor freely consented to. It’s up to the home countries to decided how and if they want to preserve their cultural items. To say another country knows better than them what their history is worth, is simply patronising and part of the infantalising colonialist mindset. Finally, I have seen plenty of mummies in Britain that are visibly rotting away because the damp climate is not suitable to preserving them 🤡
Dr. Naunton is FABULOUS. FANTASTIC DOCUMENTARY ❤
I'm continually fascinated by the depth of knowledge and the attention to detail in these Ancient Egypt videos. They truly bring the mysteries of the Nile to life!
History professor for 40 years. Now, at 79 yo going on Viking Cruise on the Nile. I have read several books and watched many Dr. Chris Naunton lessons. I am ready for Viking Hathor in Sept. 2024.
Sounds exciting! I hope you enjoy your voyage!
Fall of civilisations channel is exceptional on Egypt, 4 hours.
Amazing book, the drawings are stunning, and to think there were 11 volumes of illustrations 😳
Fantastic documentary Dr Chris, extremely informative and very well presented, thank you!! ❤
Utterly brilliant, combining so many facets of the metahistory of the discipline with a genuine appreciation of the personalities involved.
I'm Egyptian. I thank God that the Brits and French decided to ship those treasures away from Egypt. Egypt at the time -- and you could argue, still today -- dominated by an anti- enlightenment culture, namely Islam. People in my own country of birth were then -and to some extent, even today- clueless as to the importance of this history, when they are not actively trying to destroy this heritage in the name of some religious lunacy. So, stop being apologetic about this.
thats an interesting point aye and nice that something good came from it, but i still feel that shouldn't have been a choice for europeans to make and that it isn't exactly what they had in mind when they took most stuff, it was mostly for wanky white people to feel more cultured. plus the fact that many museums refuse to return items shows how they don't really care about cultural preservation but keeping the monitary value for themselves. I also imagine most other cultures whos treasures have been taken don't feel the same way and would like them returned. *don't mind my ranting i find this interesting* the opinion of preservation also differs between cultures eg, Pakeha in NZ "preserved" Maōri heads by capturing and beheading indigenous people, sure the heads are historical artifacts that now are surviving in museums, but the family (whanau) of the people and the culture would prefer returning to the earth once more and completing the circle of life. Its not preservation, its preventing rest and peace of the person who was decapitated.
-- my point is: super cool that many items have been able to survive but still there is a lot for us europeans/ colonisers to be apologetic for, looting no matter who or how one does it is bad
The people insisting that artifacts must be repatriated are woefully naïve about the treatment of antiquities in the Middle East. Despite the best efforts of scholars, even in Turkey things have a habit of disappearing or not being studied or made available to the public.
@@beckyjordan2770 The “colonizers” in Egypt were acquiring items that the locals were either already selling or did not care that European archaeologists were taking back to Europe. The Islamic tradition that Egyptians were a part of at that time did not place substantial emphasis on the pre-Islamic past aside from the prophets and kings common to the Jewish and Christian traditions. Even today management of antiquities in the Middle East is highly politicized and prone to corruption.
@@MrSomethingElse you’ve left more than enough banal drivel in this comments section
@@Corvinuswargaming1444 happy now cuz? man, you must be a real bumout at festivals and parties.
Really exceptional documentary; very detailed and well put together.👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
if you think this is good check out the fall of civilisations, 4 hour one on Egypt
This is an amazing documentary
is this part of a series? This was especially well done.
Imagine a vase you made during a pottery class becomes buried & uncovered thousands of years later, shipped to a country thousands of miles away, & put into a museum people pay to see almost every day & marvel at.
I would love to thumb through that book ..
That Big one? I wonder if it's available digitally...me too
Thank you
Well done documentary, but not once was an Egyptian person mentioned - not even the foreman of Carter's work crew, who supposedly is the one who found the stone step of Tutankhamen's tomb. For a modern piece of historical writing, that was a strange omission to me. Belzoni didn't "move the colossus" by his own strongman self! And many modern Egyptologists are Egyptians.
Right on!
Modern Egyptologists came into being after Western excavations and study.😉
The impetus and funding of early work came from Europeans and later Americans. That's the focus of this documentary.
Of course a woke liberal idiot will find something to criticize
I want a film about Schliemann's life, the excavations, etc.
He makes grave robbing sound so wonderful
wait a second i feel like this was too soon to finish the video ur telling me the last discovery was in 1922 , what about these 100 years
“Return all the artifacts” is a nice sentiment until you have actually spent time in this region and understand how quickly things disappear into the hands of those connected with whatever government is in charge or have enough money to buy them. Then no one can appreciate or study them.
Have you heard of the new billion $ Egyptian Museum? Lol. So much for your ignorant diatribe.
@ that doesn’t refute anything I said
@@Corvinuswargaming1444ok so name the region that you are referring to ?
@ the topic of the video is about Egypt. Therefore “this region” refers to the Middle East.
@@Corvinuswargaming1444 ok so where and how have you spent time in this region to observe what you have mentioned ?
It's crazy, but if a country today just went and took a bunch of stuff from another country like they did back then....I think it wouldn't happen on such a large scale before it would be stopped...I hope...
Word! 👍
Before the Western Europeans, the countries were plundered by invaders/barbarians etc. We have no record of what was robbed or items to be seen.😉
Earliest form of "archaeology" was treasure hunting. Even though modern archaeology would never do this, native looters continue to actively cause much destruction. Given the immense amount of buried historical material, I'd be surprised if even 1% has been removed to other countries.
Brilliant video
Sands...had a good name for what he did!
Very well done documentary ❤
“Hardly anyone has been in Egypt”
Well, that is except anyone who lived there, people trading, etc.
Ok, I’m pedantic.
Egiptians has zero idea about the ancient ruins plus they never cared to translate the hierogliphs
@@enriqueteruel6574 I would beg to differ. They knew it was there and just didn’t care as the Egyptian society collapsed. Few people could read or write and if those who could disappeared, knowledge is lost.
Almost like Rome. Population didn’t suddenly vanish. Nobody knew and/or cared how to maintain what was there and didn’t care to rebuild what was destroyed. Also Athens, South America, Asia. Many places get abandoned outright and forgotten but, well, pyramids in the desert are hard to miss.
this is wonderful
The great favor done archeology and posterity by the French with their magnificent volumes, seems to myself as having been essentially selfless and serving of Necessity.
As only one smaller example: the then somewhat surviving Theater at Antinopolis, built by command of Emperor Hadrian for his new city dedicated to the drowned Antinuous-Osiris, was very well documented.
Today, there, the original is totally gone, it having been picked apart by builders using it for their material!
But for the French of then and their exquisite work, we'd now know nothing of it.
Hats-off to them, I say!
I'm sure the Egyptians knew ancient Egypt was there all along....no "rediscovery" needed for them...
Well they couldn’t read the hieroglyphics until the Europeans deciphered it so rediscovery is the appropriate description.
Egypt under successive Islamic rule had limited interest in the antiquity and many of the major sites today were under sand. The Ottoman historians native to Egypt prior to European archaeology did not take significant interest in the pre-Islamic period aside from how it related to the Koranic presentation of history.
Can't helping not all Pyramids were tombs if their uniqueness can be believed though some were 'incorporated' by others in a different age.
Colonialism is alive and well.
Can someone explain how
Je tiens la fair means I have got it? I am learning french
Yes. Google
"Two Ton Common" get it right! lol
Actually, they didn’t have vowels and his real name ends with Aten or tn
we don't need a brass choir, cymbals, bad repetitive string section. the music is a huge distraction
France & the UK sound like they used to be like Russia & the US during the Cold War.
If Egeyptologists would work toghether from other disciplined like Geologist, the world woud know much more. Just think of the Sphinx.
4:15 What?
Are we seriously going to conflate King Tutankhamun with the Pyramids?
One minute in and I want to say Good Bye,...yet I am hungry so I will continue to watch...
I hope there are no more confabulations dressed up as history for the lay viewer
Edit: I apologize just after five minutes. Disculpe, Disculpe, Maximus Disculpe
Weren’t the Egyptians horrified about this looting? Did they try to stop it?
Almost everything that could be looted was looted already. Selling mummies to make paint pigment (mummy brown). Locals weren’t maintaining anything and well, they were occupied too.
They were profiting off it.
They not only took mummies and burned them for fuel but they ate them as medicine too
@@cejann3926 “eating them” was apparently a European thing too, since Roman period. Imagine in 1000 years what people will think about our medicines.
Nice try
But we aren’t looting grave sites to find corpses to grind down and eat
Ugh!
The British Museum is a blight on modern civilized society!
It should have been emptied out, everything boxed up, organized and shipped promptly back to its original owners just as systematically as when it was stolen. (If not more so.)
I always go right to the obligatory example of Stonehenge, well aware of how cliché, because it's as true as anything.
The U.K. wouldn't tolerate for a second some foreign people coming in, condoning off, and then hauling away the ancient megalithic structure back to their country, whether they invoked; "conservation," or tried using posterity as a justification or not.
The fact is; the historical artifacts kept locked up inside the British Museum, (let alone all of the other Museums and Universities around the Western World, particularly in the United States, Canada, France, Australia, etc.,) no more belong uprooted from their points of origin than Stonehenge, if it were to be dug up and carted away somewhere else.
And that should be obvious, especially to such a supposed; "educated," civilization.
Since the proliferation of the internet, especially, and the ability for just about every human being to have access to any information available therein, with modern computer and cell phone technology, there hasn't been any justification whatsoever for those significant cultural artifacts to NOT be sent back to their rightful owners.
Beginning with the British Museum.
Then, Berlin the Louvre and all the way down to the most relatively obscure, like Eugene Oregon, Carson City Nevada, and of course Philadelphia, New York and Washington DC. (And every one in between.
Correcting the mistakes of the past, colonialism in particular, (and there are some atrocities that can never be fully made up for,) was never going to be easy, but that one effort would be a start.
If healing the world's deep divides is ever to stand a chance.
(I'm just sayin' ✌️)
#ConstructiveCriticism
#DontShootTheMessenger
😴 Museums have been at the forefront of modern study, education, and inspiration.
This statement is so dumb. The archeologists would not have been allowed to find anything if not invited. Nothing would have been found if they did not come, there was no real interest in looking. All European’s aren’t evil. Just sayin’.
So, Champollion beat out the Brit in the translation game but, did not Howard Carter more than make up for it?
I'd say.
WHY no "Sir" Howard Carter???
Might have there been special honors and recognition granted him by H.E.M. King Fuad?
Well at that time political factors were intervening, which might well have gotten in the way in both cases. (Lecau!)
How about a posthumous granting of knighthood to Carter by the present H.M. King Charles?
So many questions; so few answers.
Egyptians had to have been Saharians heirs? What lies to the west the direction Egypt dedicated to death and a symbolic setting sun. What lies still undiscovered buried deep in ancient valleys beneath the sand and sand dunes ?
And the only reason it took the English so long was because the Chrsitian religion suppressed history and ancient knowledge for almost 1,000 years - wild.
The Christians and governments even spread myths of Giants when people asked about roman structures in England
Napoleon had access to this information and he didnt care what the politcal and religious powers told him - he was against the supression
Rediscover is where it's wrong 😂
And Ancient Egyptians were never black
Great video but England and the other countries should have to return these stolen artifacts that belong to Egypt.
thank u so much
Thives loting culture of others
Sorry I usually love these documentaries but calling colonisers “brave European souls bitten by the exploration bug” had me leaving this video in a heartbeat. Do better.
Shocked no one else has said this. The rest of the comments are from long time history buffs who view history from their white lens and their white lens only.
The title should be more fitting like : history of looting and colonization in Egypt... The only good thing this petty thieves did was at least document what they stole. One day all those museums will be almost empty, I'm hoping to be alive to see it.
IMO-While arguments can be made, post-hoc, for safe preservation of Dynastic artifacts, the entirety of export of Egypt's treasured history, was the raping of a culture. Shame on France and England, and anyone who participated. Repatriate all Egyptian artifacts!!
If safe preservation is the aim, the world can offer financial support for a "grand world museum," sister to the new Giza Museum. Time is long past this historic crime should have been addressed.
They're our best mates, but the Brits would of took back the pyramids if could 😂
It's sad to see all the looted treasure still sitting in British museums as a national point of pride. It belongs to Egypt you greedy bastards, give it back already.
Agreed!!
Nah, bad idea. Much of it was paid for or granted by Egyptian government in exchange for services.
Recovered ?? You meen stolen 😮😔
Up to its neck to driftsans then
Of course the items should be returned to their home countries. Taking items to western countries was part of colonialism. No matter if the items were ‘gifted’ or ‘sold’, because of the power imbalance the trades can’t be considered fair, equal nor freely consented to. It’s up to the home countries to decided how and if they want to preserve their cultural items. To say another country knows better than them what their history is worth, is simply patronising and part of the infantalising colonialist mindset. Finally, I have seen plenty of mummies in Britain that are visibly rotting away because the damp climate is not suitable to preserving them 🤡
How do you become an egyptologist? Like where do you send your CV, who pays your wages?
Same lol, i think of the same, oddly several times throughout the day.
Ancient Egyptians were White.
😂
You wish darling
@ariyalstellaire Your ignorance is talking and your Jealousy of White Women is Obvious.
Why the pronunciation? How come we can’t just keep traditional pronunciation- it sounds so pretentious and weird
What a big troll. With a very big ego
The dead should never be disturbed.. remember the curse of King tut?...gosh its scary
They get disturbed all the time. Or you would be surrounded by cemeteries. They have to make room
Evolution is a thing.
THIS GUY LOOKS LIKE HE'S JUST ABOUT TO GO OUT AND CUT THE GRASS, BOOOO !
British pronunciation CAN'T be that bad! He's got to be making it up.
TV presenter or actors go through voice training to neutralise the accent so it will be understandable by all instead of regional.
If you think this is bad, you should listen to how brits pronounce japanese names.
The phrase _"scientific archaeology"_ is a joke.
Science/Archaeology is no different than Magic/Logic.
So you think science is like magic ? Can you really be that stupid?
As opposed to pillaging?
@@barbaraleonard8379 Science is to archaeology, what magic is to logic.
There is no question about your level of intelligence.
What an ignorant take
@@andrewbowen2837 Which phase of an archaeological excavation would you say applies the scientific method?
Qualify your ignorant statement.