Others have said it, but I love this bonus boss for making you FEEL like a random encounter to this guy. You'e got to pull out a highly specific set of bullshit if you want to win, just like endgame protagonists will only lose to highly specific BS from random encounters. And if you go into the fight equipped to null all of demi-fiend's offensive options, he does what any player in that situation will do - says "fuck it" and busts out the expensive insta-kill move rather than deal with this crap.
Best part is that gaea rage isnt just an insta kill, it’s the only endgame skill he’s packing. So it’s more that he almost tries for a second and can kill you several times over
I got cocky cuz I was fighting him on safety difficulty just to see what he was about in SMT V. Then he pulls Gaea Rage and everybody dies and I’m like WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!
He was probably on Auto Mode cause he saw the Digital Devil Saga team as just another random encounter. Demi-Fiend: Huh, never seen these fuckers before... Welp imma just punch them cause it's faster.
Yosemine Sam: This will be easy. *sees Serph and friends get wiped out by Demi-fiend's Gaea Rage attack* Ooooooohhh I hate that varmint. *throws controller at TV in rage, throws hat and stomps on it*
Player:*Tries using repel/absorb/Resist phys* Demi-fiend: No no that's cheating take off the repels/absorbs/Resist phy's attacks or else Imma pull out the gaes rage.
"Who are these soldiers? Huh? They turned into demons? ...Big deal Okay, TeethingTits, time to dance crazy until you drop DEAD!" TRRRRRR...!!! AAHHHH...!
I once had a 15 minutes long random encounter, consist of 7 different random encounters in one go. The experience amount I got was almost equal to a boss battle.
reminder that the Demi-fiend's not even trying in this battle, he's using mid-tier skills and demons. the moment he pulls an endgame skill (Gaea Rage) it deals thousands of damage lmao
@@lisasemarron5413 Demi-fiend uses Javelin Rain, Xeros Beat and Heat Wave as part of his normal skillset here, all of which are unlocked in his game early on (or mid-game at most). The demons he summons here (Cu Chulainn, Girimekhala, Parvati and so on) are all mid-tier demons, and aside from Super Pixie they're all obsolete in the endgame. If the Demi-fiend was serious here, he'd have summoned endgame demons (Metatron, Beelzebub, Shiva etc.) and used other endgame skills like Freikugel and Deadly Fury... in his eyes, you're just a random encounter.
@@lisasemarron5413 Demi-fiend: "Huh, I've never seen those demons before... whatever, shouldn't be too bad." 30 mins later Demi-fiend "Okay.. this random encounter is taking WAY TOO LONG!!!" (dies)
"Who are these soldiers? Huh? They turned into demons? ...Big deal Okay, TeethingTits, time to dance crazy until you drop DEAD!" TRRRRRR...!!! AAHHHH...!
doki doki ahegao Digital devil sage is a game where you transform into Demons... And since SMT is a series where you always encounter Random Demons from any Myths......
@@rickynguyen5108 and the reward is even less worth it in that than here. It's literally just a pat on the back and got some bragging rights. What makes it worse is that he's not even trying which is even scarier.
If Nocturne remake ever happens, there needs to be this battle from Demifiend's perspective 7/20/2020 edit: NOCTURNE REMASTER HAPPENING!!! 8/01/2020 edit: if this fight happens, the combo move Black Sun can be the Gaea Rage BS equivalent lmaoooo
The dev team of SMT V said that a Nocturne Maniax remake or Port is on their radar. www.siliconera.com/2018/08/27/shin-megami-tensei-v-producer-shares-a-development-update/
this was just a crazy hallucination of the Demi-fiend? Well imagine how the fight would have went if you would have been forced to fight the real demi-fiend
@@CereDulce37 I really, REALLY wish I could find the source, and I hate sounding like a "dude, trust me" type of person, but I can't even remember where I heard it. Sorry.
AnonimousOtaku he was sandbagging REAL hard. If he really did care, he would’ve brought high level demons like Metatron, Lilith and skills like Freikugel and Deadly Fury.
I actually manage to make it kinda trivial by having max stats and phys resist. Surviving until the Pixie and abusing her low MP is a very good strategy. The problem for Max Stats is the grind tho
@@Krelos1114 It's also completely optional and requires you to play through the whole game twice *and* grind for hours to max out your stats. So you know, at some point it's on the player, not the dev.
decaying ghost I think he meant what if they made SMT Nocturne for the PS4 and has the DDS party as a secret boss you could only find in the Amala Network
Imagine this: you're in your SECOND play through, on hard mode, grinding hundreds of hours, maxing out every stat there is, meticulously crafting your party and skills, fighting the ultimate secret boss for literally half an hour (keeping track of invisible counters and enemy HP bars), only to see all your efforts get wasted by a bad RNG roll... lol. I know this battle exists, I still can't believe it. It's certainly epic though.
So as it turns out, fighting the guy who was picked out by fucking *Lucifer* to one day lead armies of demons to kill the God of the Multiverse himself in an epic, upcoming war is a *pretty* difficult battle.
It's from a Gamefaqs user named "Red Star"; he sent an email to a Gamefaqs guide maker who made a Secret Boss guide for the game. It's the arguably easier way to do the fight other than straight up brawling with him and relying purely on damage and Null Sleep. By using buffs and debuffs every turn, you can force the Demi-Fiend's party to waste all of their press turns on Dekunda and Dekaja. It makes the fight take longer, but it's a far less luck-based strategy and helps curb the Demi-Fiend's maddeningly finnicky RNG.
@@brandenharned7004 I remember there is a strategy in which you follow a very specific sequence of steps and you can force Pixie to deplete her MP. Creating a scenario in which his demos become completely useless, turning this seemingly impossible fight into a Last Word spamming massacre. This is how I defeated Demi-fiend back in the day.
@@PronounDisrespecter The pixie loop? That and the Red Star is literally the only 2 ways you can beat this fight. Shit is still almost impossible about a decade later since no one has found a 3rd way to beat him
@@hahalery Hours and hours of my life devouring Samaels in the sewers to go in, be obliterated by a single Gaea Rage... To end up killing him by an exploit because the intended way depends on stupid amounts of RNG. I regret nothing.
Alright my dudes, question; do you think Demi-Fiend is here because he killed the God of his timeline, or is here to be punished by that God for attempting to do so?
Mustekalan Didn't Satan in DDS2 say something along the lines of, "and now you choose to retaliate, just as that man did." I always figured he was referring to DF. I suppose that Satan's punishment was this RNG hell hole.
Ultra Mega Jesus I took it to mean he was talking about Aleph from SMT2, but I suppose it could apply to Demi Fiend as well. Def something to think about!
I remember seeing someone cheesing this fight with Psycho Rage, Buffing Magic and Megidolon spam. It still took at least 5-10 Minutes, even with Somas to refresh their MP.
Gaea Rage is pretty evil but can we talk about the fact that this guy knows what skills you have equipped as soon as you enter the battle? Including Null Sleep, presumably.
Fun fact: Null Sleep and Null Critical are mistranslated. That's why you're allowed to have them in this fight. Comparing them to the correctly-translated Null Element, Null Sleep should be Sleep Dodge and Null Crit would be Crit Cancel. This was fixed in, of all games, Persona 3 where Null Sleep was renamed Sleepwalker
You know, one thing I noticed, and this is something I could be wrong about, but the version of Demi-fiend we fight in DDS is lazy. Think about it, his resistances match with Masakados magatama(not resisting Earth and Gun attacks, which were not present in Nocturne; and almighty ones). Yet he's using low to mid tier skills like Javelin Rain and fucking Heat Wave(which you would presume that he might have at least Freikugel, Deadly Fury, Magma Axis or Pierce at this point, which he might/might not since he has Uber Pixie in his team, stating that he did went to at least the fifth kalpa) and he's using demons in his team which can be found around level 60(with Uber Pixie being the exception, which I believe you can get even if you yourself are at a low level, but I don't know about this, someone please correct me if I'm wrong). So from what I conclude in this version is that DF is himself around level 60 and got really lazy with his grinding. But even then, the guys at DDS are having such a hard time against him. Just imagine if he were to fight seriously. I wouldn't want to imagine how many ways their bodies would be blown up into.
Endgame Demi fiend would be a impossible boss, only with hacks he would be beated. And imagine you beat him with a hack and the game crashes, too powerful that he crashed my game haha.
"Who are these soldiers? Huh? They turned into demons? ...Big deal Okay, TeethingTits, time to dance crazy until you drop DEAD!" TRRRRRR...!!! AAHHHH...!
That and the fact that it's just the normal random encounter music from Nocturne, meaning he only views this as another random fight he could easily win.
Back here after beating demifiend in SMT V, I am so glad grimoires/essences/balms/incenses exist in 5 because I did not have the patience back then to level grind/max stats in DDS for this fight (and playthrough the game twice).
You know you have a hard fight when there are ZERO strategies to kill Demi-fiend before he can use Gaea Rage at least once. Yes, you have to plan around the fact he WILL use Gaea Rage and he WILL kill your party with it
@@dedark0il131 Not to my knowledge. In order to avoid Gaea Rage you would have to kill Demi-fiend in 30 turns, which isn't practical with Girimekhala and Cu Chulainn alive. If you leave them alive for 30 turns, they kill themselves with Recarmdra, and then Demi-fiend uses Gaea Rage anyway. The two main strats are "normal" (which I shall call "Gradual Grinder") and "Red Star." Gradual Grinder is what you see in this video, you just kill the summons every 29 turns and then use Close Call/Null Sleep to tank the Gaea Rage. Red Star requires you to kill Cu Chulainn as quickly as possible, then tank Gaea Rage, then trick Pixie into wasting all her MP before she takes her 31st turn. With no MP she can't cast Recarmdra. You still have to kill Girimekhala so HE can't use Recarmdra either. The end result is Demi-fiend, Pixie with no MP, and Arahabaki who can't use Dekunda. It's much easier to kill Demi-fiend with 4 Debilitates, the hard part is just getting there
@@dedark0il131 Yeah, compared to SMT5, classic Demi-Fiend really made you work out everything and plan dozens of turns in advance. Also in going over my evidence I need to make two minor corrections: Arahabaki can use Dekunda/Dekaja after all, and Recarm doesn't cost MP. However Pixie will ALWAYS prioritize Dekunda/Dekaja over Recarmdra (she'll try to cast them but not have any MP), and Arahabaki will not use the same spell Pixie uses, so Red Star still works; you just might have to use Charge instead of Debilitate
I'm still playing this and Nocturne. I heard about some Demi-fiend in DDS and couldn't recognize what people were saying till now. It really is Demifiend from Nocturne. Atlus is just cruel.
@@Oxman7077 Oh, he gets to cast a spell of almost endgame if you take too many turns, it obliterates the hp bar with a non-insta death type of damage. The thing is that you have to think in the strategy how to defeat the motherfucker while he trats you like a random encounter and tries to save mana. That is the thing. The AI for the battle plays with you.
I think it's really hilarious that the main thing that lets you win is that Earth and Gun weren't elements in SMT3. Demi-Fiend is using the Masakado Magatama and would otherwise be immune to anything but Almighty damage.
SMT Nocturne has an excessive amount of random music tracks that only show up in specific situations and aren’t in the official soundtrack. I think there was just too much audio for the PS2?
It's Nocturne that actually swapped them. It makes sense, because Javelin Rain is now actually a rain of projectiles. No clue what the hell Xeros Beat is supposed to represent though.
Joseph Maiorana I mean, SMT still exists. Mainline doesn’t get too many games, but they’re still here. Also, SMT V is still being developed (hopefully).
Serph: Cielo you're too underlevel stay outside Cielo: But.. Heat: You heard him, this is going to be an easy meal. *10 seconds later and a Gaea Rage* Heat: Okay time to Level grind you Cielo Cielo: I'm sorry what?
There's some cheese strat called Red Star or something where you lock Pixie and Arahbaki in some loop to make it a lot quicker, but I couldn't get that to work. Now I know why they rated DF the hardest boss in games, but it's heavily luck based tho.
When I normally look up ''hardest bosses ever'' I mostly see games like Tekken or street fighter popping up, but from turn based it's DF. What game is Demi-God from?
A small detail that i saw in this fight exepct for gaea rage all atacks that demi fiend uses are heavy atacks and the demons that demi fiend uses are mid to high tier demons this just says that he is not even using full power
Frying Pan You should be glad that this Demi-Fiend is weaker. Imagine this fight, but with demons like Metatron, Beelzebub, and Shiva, and moves like Freikugel and Deadly Fury. It’d actually be unfair.
29:29 first time I experienced and was insta wiped by this, and seeing the damage. Literally dropped the controller and took a walk outside to think on wat just happened Definitelly one of my gaming vietnam flashbacks as a kid
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Fun fact: While definitions do differ, the bare minimum for a feature length film is 40 minutes, this is literally a movie
How tf do some people put up with this lol?
Demi-fiend gangbangs a bunch of other weak demi-fiends: the movie
Imagine losing at the end
RIP ETIKA
fuukataba_
Others have said it, but I love this bonus boss for making you FEEL like a random encounter to this guy. You'e got to pull out a highly specific set of bullshit if you want to win, just like endgame protagonists will only lose to highly specific BS from random encounters. And if you go into the fight equipped to null all of demi-fiend's offensive options, he does what any player in that situation will do - says "fuck it" and busts out the expensive insta-kill move rather than deal with this crap.
Best part is that gaea rage isnt just an insta kill, it’s the only endgame skill he’s packing. So it’s more that he almost tries for a second and can kill you several times over
I got cocky cuz I was fighting him on safety difficulty just to see what he was about in SMT V. Then he pulls Gaea Rage and everybody dies and I’m like WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!
@@Darkoriax17 even in safe mode you’re not safe from the Demi fiend
Also it's Demi-fiends random encounter music. To him, your party is just another fight
@Lucidplays34 I mean they're all in their demon forms so yeah he could def be thinking "these new dlc demons do be quirky"
Serph: Why do I hear boss music?
Demi: Boss?
Sauce of your dp?
Pfft that was a good one.
Gaea’s Rage?
_slow clap_
@@TUCell-ps5mi me: 'panik'
the fact that the fight opens with mamudoon is genuinely fucking evil lmfao
Never played SMT before?
@@Zer0Main43 i have
Ruby Weapon tactics
Ruined your 666th likes.
@@quiet8690 cool thanks for the like
I get a bit of a chuckle whenever Demi-Fiend decides to go for the basic attack. It's like a slap in the face.
More of a punch to the face, to be honest.
He was probably on Auto Mode cause he saw the Digital Devil Saga team as just another random encounter.
Demi-Fiend: Huh, never seen these fuckers before... Welp imma just punch them cause it's faster.
He’s like *slaps you* “no!”
It feels so disrespectful lol
Serph: NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST GAEA RAGE AND ONE SHOT US NOOOOOO!
Demi-fiend: haha ground go boom.
Yosemine Sam: This will be easy.
*sees Serph and friends get wiped out by Demi-fiend's Gaea Rage attack*
Ooooooohhh I hate that varmint. *throws controller at TV in rage, throws hat and stomps on it*
Disgusting meme
I think the Demi-fiend here feels what we all feel whenever we fight against something with Almighty attacks. The feeling of "Can you fucking not?"
*can you don't?*
Can you isn’t
Can you aren't
Can you no
Could you hadn't?
40 mins full of sweat and terror
1x soma
*worth it*
Demi-fiend: “felt sorry man” *drops an item*
It really feels like a case of “I spent several revival gems on beating the Demi-Fiend and all I got was this T-Shirt”
@@brandongreenland9632 but a legendary tshirt that you survived XD
Gotta love how if you try to use anything the Demifiend dislikes, he will just instantly slap you down
Hey man.
Demi-fiend will force you to struggle
Well in Nocturne if I encounter enemies with bs null/repel/absorb, then it's Freikugel time lol
Player:*Tries using repel/absorb/Resist phys*
Demi-fiend: No no that's cheating take off the repels/absorbs/Resist phy's attacks or else Imma pull out the gaes rage.
@@shinigami9851 it's funny since he can't use pierce when a enemy repels physical
Demi-fiend's revenge for all the game overs he suffered by randomly getting nailed by Death effects.
or random expel attack when you dont have endure
That was a very long random encounter
"Who are these soldiers?
Huh? They turned into demons?
...Big deal
Okay, TeethingTits, time to dance crazy until you drop DEAD!"
TRRRRRR...!!!
AAHHHH...!
I once had a 15 minutes long random encounter, consist of 7 different random encounters in one go. The experience amount I got was almost equal to a boss battle.
@@nagabe6394 i made sure to pick up will o wisp in shinjuku medical center for riberama for that exact purpose
@@nagabe6394 what?
Yeah like half way Demi fiends like "goddamn you guys are still ALIVE!?"
i love how after this crazy difficult fight, all serph has to say about it is "must've been a weird hallucination or somethin'"
I like how if you defeat Demi-Fiend first, the battle ends, reminiscent of how actual MegaTen games work.
As opposed to Demi-fiend defeating you, wherein the battle screen goes on forever.
reminder that the Demi-fiend's not even trying in this battle, he's using mid-tier skills and demons.
the moment he pulls an endgame skill (Gaea Rage) it deals thousands of damage lmao
How you know that?
@@lisasemarron5413 Demi-fiend uses Javelin Rain, Xeros Beat and Heat Wave as part of his normal skillset here, all of which are unlocked in his game early on (or mid-game at most). The demons he summons here (Cu Chulainn, Girimekhala, Parvati and so on) are all mid-tier demons, and aside from Super Pixie they're all obsolete in the endgame.
If the Demi-fiend was serious here, he'd have summoned endgame demons (Metatron, Beelzebub, Shiva etc.) and used other endgame skills like Freikugel and Deadly Fury... in his eyes, you're just a random encounter.
@@ghostlanceryderwilson Welp that overconfidence just killed him
@@lisasemarron5413 Demi-fiend: "Huh, I've never seen those demons before... whatever, shouldn't be too bad."
30 mins later
Demi-fiend "Okay.. this random encounter is taking WAY TOO LONG!!!"
(dies)
@@ghostlanceryderwilson in short you fucked up
Just be glad Dante isn't in the party. But considering the demons I ended up having in SMT 3, Demi-Fiend is definitely holding back.
Also, considering I rode literally with some of the Horsemen in my PT...where are they?
Man, that Rebellion Crit rate was RIDICULOUS and that Provoke didn't help either.
Beelzebub dante and metatron
Even though Dante is really bad
Beelzebub, Daisoujou, Raidou, Metatron, Mother Harlot...
He was just running around to adjust the phases to do some fusing and he runs into us.
"Who are these soldiers?
Huh? They turned into demons?
...Big deal
Okay, TeethingTits, time to dance crazy until you drop DEAD!"
TRRRRRR...!!!
AAHHHH...!
"Meh i have a full party i wont bother with talk"
0:46 Cu Chulainn: "Eat Shit!"
Lmao i cant stop repeating this now😂
I can't unhear this and I'm glad.
This is my head canon now.
I don't wanna be that guy, but this comment is stolen
@@FshineK :o
Imagine Demi-Fiend just walks up and talks to you.
*Gets recruited*
CaN I haVe mAcCA?
Demi fiend talking: ...
> The gas must have been causing hallucinations.
> A message is written on the floor:
"YOU SUCK, LOL!"
- With love, Demi-fiend.
"Get naenaed"
-Devilman
"Will see you in HD remake"
-Demi-Fiend
"XD"
- My best wishes, Demi-fiend
-Upon closer examination theres a small cat paw stamped on the side.
Let's boogie, Raidou.
-Best regards Gotou
"HMPH"
-demi-la-fiend
Imagine if he was at full power with endgame Pixie and Dante.
Too weak, he needs to have Lucifer too since he has an open party slot.
For Japan it would that guy from devil summoner.
@@KordellCunningham Raidou?
@@av4960 Yeah.
he's gonna shin megami tensei nocturne those 3
teacher: why didn’t you do the homework
the homework:
... that's nonsense
not so In-Shane at all No that’s a comment
@@sorakh4119 Haha yeah, definitely a NICEEEEEE JOKE, i laughedddddd sooo harddddd. Whatever
not so In-Shane at all You’re welcome.
@@noyoucantnoicantnowecantsostop Calm down lol
I never understood why they put demifiend in this game, but he's one hell of a boss battle.
decaying ghost You fight protagonists and characters from other games in almost every game.
pikistikman I know, I just thought someone like Aleph would be more fitting as a protagonist boss battle.
He is one *HELL* OF A BOSS BATTLE
doki doki ahegao
Digital devil sage is a game where you transform into Demons...
And since SMT is a series where you always encounter Random Demons from any Myths......
That's easy......... the amala network is a good device for cross overs
the funny thing is
look at what moves he uses, and what demons he has, and compare to what's possible in Nocturne
*he's going easy on you*
That's it not even the actual demi fiend.
I'll go as far as to say that even seraph after achieving the nirvana can't beat the real demi fiend.
@@jackour8167 pretty hard to beat someone who is literally backed by the king of Hell. I'm not sure anyone can.
@@Corrupted-Sun abel begs to differ.
aleph solos I fear
@@Corrupted-Sun Nahobino?
And once again Demi-Fiend will be a boss fight in SMT V
And he's as brutal as ever, even on freaking casual difficulty
They done it
They actually done it
The mad men at atlus made one of the most hardest jrpg bosses even HARDER
@@TorraShinjiro17
Wait, he's even more difficult in SMT 5? HOLY SHIT!
@Luke Morgan Tell that to Persona fans lol. The P3 and P4 protagonist boss battles are a joke.
@@rickynguyen5108 and the reward is even less worth it in that than here. It's literally just a pat on the back and got some bragging rights. What makes it worse is that he's not even trying which is even scarier.
If Nocturne remake ever happens, there needs to be this battle from Demifiend's perspective
7/20/2020 edit: NOCTURNE REMASTER HAPPENING!!!
8/01/2020 edit: if this fight happens, the combo move Black Sun can be the Gaea Rage BS equivalent lmaoooo
天雄軍 • 豫汐 I suspect that it'll have the normal battle theme from this game if it happens.
The dev team of SMT V said that a Nocturne Maniax remake or Port is on their radar.
www.siliconera.com/2018/08/27/shin-megami-tensei-v-producer-shares-a-development-update/
@@BlueForSureRight God I hope so, literally dream come true.
Demi-Fiend going up against both Dante, Raidou and Serph. Hoo boy.
@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 i want to see this
this was just a crazy hallucination of the Demi-fiend? Well imagine how the fight would have went if you would have been forced to fight the real demi-fiend
I keep telling people that this was a fake demi fiend but no one believes me 😭😭
Focus + Divine shot/spiral viper / Freugacal(?)
but the real question is why was he only doing 1/3 his normal base damage?
@@jackour8167 yea... the real demi-fiend would be doing 3x damage
@@zarthemad8386 that's his solar data. Less than a fraction of the actual demi fiend's power
He’s probably grinding his demon’s level to make something.
For you, he's an incredibly hard super boss. For him, you're just another random encounter he doesn't even feel like trying on.
Apparently. The last save was an hour ago so he regrets deeply
I bet you that Demifiend sees Serph spamming Fire of Sinai and expecting the worst, then being disappointed when it only does 1% of his health
Fun fact about this fight: Atlus themselves couldn't beat it, even when in debug mode.
Good joke
Atlus noob
@@cantufekci23 Not joking.
@@risdio51 source?
@@CereDulce37 I really, REALLY wish I could find the source, and I hate sounding like a "dude, trust me" type of person, but I can't even remember where I heard it. Sorry.
Gotta love how Demi told Dante/raidou to wait outside while he plays with the kids.😂
Dead ass 😂?
Yeah
Ok, i bet Demi-Fiend was going easy on them
AnonimousOtaku he was sandbagging REAL hard. If he really did care, he would’ve brought high level demons like Metatron, Lilith and skills like Freikugel and Deadly Fury.
@@jaderabbit898 hey, it's you again.
I was mainly because I was on vactation and not in the mood to put in maximum effort
Demi-Fiend of Time have mercy on I our souls you monster
@@WardenKaz No
Girimehkala making elephant noises makes it all the better.
So much luck is required to win this fight. Guess that's what should be expected coming from ATLUS.
This fight really is the culmination of the SMT franchise's worst elements.
I actually manage to make it kinda trivial by having max stats and phys resist. Surviving until the Pixie and abusing her low MP is a very good strategy. The problem for Max Stats is the grind tho
@@Krelos1114 It's also completely optional and requires you to play through the whole game twice *and* grind for hours to max out your stats.
So you know, at some point it's on the player, not the dev.
NIS has second place for me in the PS2 era.
"Who the hell is this guy?! You gotta be kidding! Level 4000!?"
666?
Imagine if they remade this game for like PS4 and the dds party was a rare to encounter secret boss only found in the amla network
Toby Paet this is dds
decaying ghost I think he meant what if they made SMT Nocturne for the PS4 and has the DDS party as a secret boss you could only find in the Amala Network
Twisting Dervole that makes more sense.
Imagine replacing The Reaper in the Persona games with this guy
Chaos Yeshua it would give me more of a reason not to stay on a floor for too long...
Imagine this: you're in your SECOND play through, on hard mode, grinding hundreds of hours, maxing out every stat there is, meticulously crafting your party and skills, fighting the ultimate secret boss for literally half an hour (keeping track of invisible counters and enemy HP bars), only to see all your efforts get wasted by a bad RNG roll... lol. I know this battle exists, I still can't believe it. It's certainly epic though.
How cute, the Demifiend still hangs around with the Uber Pixie. Best SMT couple ever.
He will never let go of his fairy fleshlight.
@@smithwimm1575 i despise you. 10/10 joke
@@smithwimm1575 take my like and leave
So as it turns out, fighting the guy who was picked out by fucking *Lucifer* to one day lead armies of demons to kill the God of the Multiverse himself in an epic, upcoming war is a *pretty* difficult battle.
It was just an data copy of demi fiend not even the real one .😂
Demi-fiend:"These three annoying fucks keeps healing themselves,should've used Gaea Rage to end this stupid random encounter and call it a day
thats what i do after i get Pierce and Gaea Rage
This game got me into smt as a kid. Very well done dude
Gotta love that mans still out here using his first demon, pixie is a real one!!
He's using Super Pixie :).
@@SolarisKane true it ain’t the same one but this ones better :)
@@kevinkweeflowe Über Pixie isn't the same Pixie you find in the hospital?
I know, but it’s still a pixie in general and I respect that cause a pixie was his first demon :)
@@devilbuster20xx37 it is the same pixie, she's just powered up
Kinda like how you insisted on makakaja making his team burn turns. Good job.
It's from a Gamefaqs user named "Red Star"; he sent an email to a Gamefaqs guide maker who made a Secret Boss guide for the game. It's the arguably easier way to do the fight other than straight up brawling with him and relying purely on damage and Null Sleep.
By using buffs and debuffs every turn, you can force the Demi-Fiend's party to waste all of their press turns on Dekunda and Dekaja. It makes the fight take longer, but it's a far less luck-based strategy and helps curb the Demi-Fiend's maddeningly finnicky RNG.
@@brandenharned7004 I remember there is a strategy in which you follow a very specific sequence of steps and you can force Pixie to deplete her MP. Creating a scenario in which his demos become completely useless, turning this seemingly impossible fight into a Last Word spamming massacre.
This is how I defeated Demi-fiend back in the day.
@@PronounDisrespecter The pixie loop? That and the Red Star is literally the only 2 ways you can beat this fight. Shit is still almost impossible about a decade later since no one has found a 3rd way to beat him
@@hahalery Hours and hours of my life devouring Samaels in the sewers to go in, be obliterated by a single Gaea Rage... To end up killing him by an exploit because the intended way depends on stupid amounts of RNG.
I regret nothing.
@@hahalery The answer is CONSISTENT way to beat him. Other strategies are possible, but when you are rolling the dice every time, he is not fun.
the gaea rage happen RIGHT as the guitar rift starts playing at 29:29 will never be not cool to me
I remember watching this a few years ago and damn it's still satisfying... can't believe I sat through the whole vid and I have a poor attention span
I know, i don’t usually pay attention during these kinda vids, but this one I enjoyed to watch so much for some reason
Alright my dudes, question; do you think Demi-Fiend is here because he killed the God of his timeline, or is here to be punished by that God for attempting to do so?
Mustekalan Didn't Satan in DDS2 say something along the lines of, "and now you choose to retaliate, just as that man did." I always figured he was referring to DF. I suppose that Satan's punishment was this RNG hell hole.
Ultra Mega Jesus I took it to mean he was talking about Aleph from SMT2, but I suppose it could apply to Demi Fiend as well. Def something to think about!
Maybe demi just got bored and took a stroll through the amala. o3o *Very enthusiastic strolls*
Nah he probably went off to grind and ended up here
I'm pretty sure he isn't actually here, the end of this fight suggests it was just a gas induced hallucination.
The fact that this one fight took basically 40 minutes shows how crazy difficult it is, oml.💀
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I remember seeing someone cheesing this fight with Psycho Rage, Buffing Magic and Megidolon spam. It still took at least 5-10 Minutes, even with Somas to refresh their MP.
Me: Who would recommend awfully satisfying JRPGs to me?
YT Algorithm: HOO BOY AWFULLY SATISFYING JRPGS
Ok I believe you
hoo boy
wait wrong series-
The protagonists are literally just a random encounter to the Demifiend. That's how strong he is
At least he didn't have Freikugel
Gaea Rage is pretty evil but can we talk about the fact that this guy knows what skills you have equipped as soon as you enter the battle?
Including Null Sleep, presumably.
>Analyze
@@NucleaRaptor That takes up a turn, what happens here is that Gaea Rage is his /first move/ if you have skills he doesn't want you to have.
Fun fact: Null Sleep and Null Critical are mistranslated. That's why you're allowed to have them in this fight. Comparing them to the correctly-translated Null Element, Null Sleep should be Sleep Dodge and Null Crit would be Crit Cancel.
This was fixed in, of all games, Persona 3 where Null Sleep was renamed Sleepwalker
@@TheRoboKitty P3 doesn't have Sleep ailment
@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 That is correct. Past me meant to say Strange Journey, not Persona 3
It's all the cycle of life, Dante(and Raidou) treat the Demi-Fiend as a random enemy, now the Demi-Fiend treats you as random enemies
You know, one thing I noticed, and this is something I could be wrong about, but the version of Demi-fiend we fight in DDS is lazy.
Think about it, his resistances match with Masakados magatama(not resisting Earth and Gun attacks, which were not present in Nocturne; and almighty ones). Yet he's using low to mid tier skills like Javelin Rain and fucking Heat Wave(which you would presume that he might have at least Freikugel, Deadly Fury, Magma Axis or Pierce at this point, which he might/might not since he has Uber Pixie in his team, stating that he did went to at least the fifth kalpa) and he's using demons in his team which can be found around level 60(with Uber Pixie being the exception, which I believe you can get even if you yourself are at a low level, but I don't know about this, someone please correct me if I'm wrong).
So from what I conclude in this version is that DF is himself around level 60 and got really lazy with his grinding. But even then, the guys at DDS are having such a hard time against him. Just imagine if he were to fight seriously. I wouldn't want to imagine how many ways their bodies would be blown up into.
Endgame Demi fiend would be a impossible boss, only with hacks he would be beated. And imagine you beat him with a hack and the game crashes, too powerful that he crashed my game haha.
"Who are these soldiers?
Huh? They turned into demons?
...Big deal
Okay, TeethingTits, time to dance crazy until you drop DEAD!"
TRRRRRR...!!!
AAHHHH...!
Besides that, it would also be harder if he uses items like you the player does so it would be harder to beat.
A focused Freikugel would've destroyed the entire party with one hit lol
That and the fact that it's just the normal random encounter music from Nocturne, meaning he only views this as another random fight he could easily win.
The protagonist's path has no end... Not even sequels will hinder his journey forward.
Digital devil saga 2 ended seraph story as he réincarnation as child
@@fuckingking6796 he meant demi feind not serph
I like how he's sandbagging so hard that he isnt even using a full party
24:26 that's some luck right there
24:24 lucky shit lmao
Back here after beating demifiend in SMT V, I am so glad grimoires/essences/balms/incenses exist in 5 because I did not have the patience back then to level grind/max stats in DDS for this fight (and playthrough the game twice).
16:18 - the Gaea Rage moment
Pixie appearance has never been so terrifying
You know you have a hard fight when there are ZERO strategies to kill Demi-fiend before he can use Gaea Rage at least once. Yes, you have to plan around the fact he WILL use Gaea Rage and he WILL kill your party with it
@@TARINunit9 Aren't there SOME runs that had no gaea rage in them?
@@dedark0il131 Not to my knowledge. In order to avoid Gaea Rage you would have to kill Demi-fiend in 30 turns, which isn't practical with Girimekhala and Cu Chulainn alive. If you leave them alive for 30 turns, they kill themselves with Recarmdra, and then Demi-fiend uses Gaea Rage anyway.
The two main strats are "normal" (which I shall call "Gradual Grinder") and "Red Star." Gradual Grinder is what you see in this video, you just kill the summons every 29 turns and then use Close Call/Null Sleep to tank the Gaea Rage. Red Star requires you to kill Cu Chulainn as quickly as possible, then tank Gaea Rage, then trick Pixie into wasting all her MP before she takes her 31st turn. With no MP she can't cast Recarmdra. You still have to kill Girimekhala so HE can't use Recarmdra either. The end result is Demi-fiend, Pixie with no MP, and Arahabaki who can't use Dekunda. It's much easier to kill Demi-fiend with 4 Debilitates, the hard part is just getting there
@@TARINunit9 thanks for sharing, never knew this much about counter-demifiend strategies
@@dedark0il131 Yeah, compared to SMT5, classic Demi-Fiend really made you work out everything and plan dozens of turns in advance.
Also in going over my evidence I need to make two minor corrections: Arahabaki can use Dekunda/Dekaja after all, and Recarm doesn't cost MP. However Pixie will ALWAYS prioritize Dekunda/Dekaja over Recarmdra (she'll try to cast them but not have any MP), and Arahabaki will not use the same spell Pixie uses, so Red Star still works; you just might have to use Charge instead of Debilitate
For the Demi-Fiend party it looks like those speedrun fails where you randomly die
Even the ambient theme in the beginning is from SMT Nocturne haha
Serph: Who are you?
Demi Fiend: I'm you but better
I'm still playing this and Nocturne. I heard about some Demi-fiend in DDS and couldn't recognize what people were saying till now. It really is Demifiend from Nocturne. Atlus is just cruel.
dw is implied that is an hallucination. Also, this "secret boss" is actually just the demifiend half way the story haha
@@onemoregodrejected9369 So if I'm getting this correct, the Demi-Feind super boss is only at half strength?!
@@Oxman7077 Mid tier demons and atacks any random demon mid game know?
Yes.
@@onemoregodrejected9369 Kinda makes me wish you could rematch him at full strength
@@Oxman7077 Oh, he gets to cast a spell of almost endgame if you take too many turns, it obliterates the hp bar with a non-insta death type of damage. The thing is that you have to think in the strategy how to defeat the motherfucker while he trats you like a random encounter and tries to save mana. That is the thing. The AI for the battle plays with you.
the fact that this lasted for almost 41 minutes makes this boss fight terrifying
yeah... Demi-Fiend just hits different -harder- in this game
Imagine if he had Raidou and Dante in his party.
I will throw this game to trash if he had them
Finally beat him after 5 tries:)) Probably the most stressful 40 minutes of my life
I think it's really hilarious that the main thing that lets you win is that Earth and Gun weren't elements in SMT3. Demi-Fiend is using the Masakado Magatama and would otherwise be immune to anything but Almighty damage.
24:24 very rare moment
What sheer luck 0.0
Imagine if Demi-fiend could use charge or Freikugel.
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"PANIC INTESIFIES"
Why is the audio quality 10x better in this game, for the same system?
SMT Nocturne has an excessive amount of random music tracks that only show up in specific situations and aren’t in the official soundtrack. I think there was just too much audio for the PS2?
Ok so no one else gonna mention how Xeros Beat and Javelin rain are swapped?
It's Nocturne that actually swapped them. It makes sense, because Javelin Rain is now actually a rain of projectiles. No clue what the hell Xeros Beat is supposed to represent though.
Actually yeah, that makes more sense.
I loved this effing game's theme so much as a teen. I wish they made more mature themed RPGs like this nowdays
Joseph Maiorana
I mean, SMT still exists. Mainline doesn’t get too many games, but they’re still here. Also, SMT V is still being developed (hopefully).
@@haru.4267 😬
@@haru.4267 You prob already heard the news :P
@Latios I did, and I couldn’t be happier!
Holy shit this is literally just picking attack, heal, and buff/debuff every round for 40 mins 💀💀💀💀💀 I think I would just run out of patience lol
It's even worse if you do this fight without demon form, because all your damage must come from counter skills or Wild Bombs
Serph: Cielo you're too underlevel stay outside
Cielo: But..
Heat: You heard him, this is going to be an easy meal.
*10 seconds later and a Gaea Rage*
Heat: Okay time to Level grind you Cielo
Cielo: I'm sorry what?
Serph: I can't believe I'm saying this Cielo, but I'm glad you're weak to ailments.
Cielo: Man... I can't catch a break, ya?
Me who used Close Call strategy:
The amount of luck you need to win this fight is insane
Cu Chulain: "Eat Shit!"
It takes that long to beat him and all his demons Dang and i though SMT3 was hard.
There's some cheese strat called Red Star or something where you lock Pixie and Arahbaki in some loop to make it a lot quicker, but I couldn't get that to work.
Now I know why they rated DF the hardest boss in games, but it's heavily luck based tho.
BuffMaister really i thought Demi-God was harder.
When I normally look up ''hardest bosses ever'' I mostly see games like Tekken or street fighter popping up, but from turn based it's DF.
What game is Demi-God from?
BuffMaister Whoops i was wrong your right it was Demi_Fiend i must have thought of something else
BuffMaister Tekken and street fighter? They most have not played many RPGs...
A small detail that i saw in this fight exepct for gaea rage all atacks that demi fiend uses are heavy atacks and the demons that demi fiend uses are mid to high tier demons this just says that he is not even using full power
There is a lore reason about why Demi-fiend appears in Junkyard other than "let's put the protag of our previous game as Super Boss"?
No, there isn't. Demi-fiend isn't even there. That's just a digital version.
i like to think that some amala network stuff happened which caused the demi-fiend’s data to be transferred over to wherever the junkyard is lol
I like how his boss theme is just the normal battle theme from nocturne
Argilla: “hup”
Gale: “AAAAARGH”
Serph: (yeah)
A fucking amazing game! I want see a remake before I pass away.
demi-fiend last word: did i just lose to a random encounter with more than 90 turns?!?!?!?!?!?!
This is how a previous demon protagonist is supposed to feel
Should feel like God has forsaken you
Lmao that's the plot of Digital Devil Saga. It makes this fight even more meaningful
I don't know how, but the attack sounds and vocalizations and UI beeps really feel like another layer of the music
Demifiend finding 3 unfortunate victims in the Amala network
I just want to know why he even uses heat wave. Even if he's just messing around it's still garbage.
To show us how trash we are compared to him
"Ehh, this isn't worth the MP, I'll just use Heat Wa- oh... okay then."
It's there to spam crits for him. Get those extra turns.
@@jamesputterlik225 There are better moves for that though. Like Deadly Fury.
Frying Pan You should be glad that this Demi-Fiend is weaker. Imagine this fight, but with demons like Metatron, Beelzebub, and Shiva, and moves like Freikugel and Deadly Fury. It’d actually be unfair.
That was an ordeal I never would have taken. Thank you.
People coming here for Vietnam flashbacks after SMT V News
Serph: How much powerful you are?
Demi Fiend:
Yes
Serph: Noo! Demi fiend this my game not your game!
Demi fiend: Hahaha my demon go
brrrr
12:56 pain
God I love the fact they somehow managed to make him even harder in 5 lmao.
Yeah Giea Rage spam is real 😅 On top of his insta-kill attack 😨😨
Bless your heart because I don’t think I will ever have the patience for this boss fight.
You're kicking his ass with some pretty strong attacks and crits.
**sees video length**
oh.......
Demi-fiend isn't even trying here.
Funny how Xeros Beat and Javelin Rain got their animations swapped from Nocturne.
Plot Twist: The message is written in blood, your blood
29:29 first time I experienced and was insta wiped by this, and seeing the damage. Literally dropped the controller and took a walk outside to think on wat just happened
Definitelly one of my gaming vietnam flashbacks as a kid
Damn this a long-ass boss fight.
Pretty cool though.
You cannot escape me funny man
Demi Fiend must be on New Game+, he has the extra press turn lol
I think it's possible to get the Visor without NG+
It’s gotta be annoying for Demi Fiend to keep getting challenged by these new kids.