I call this game "Shula's Revenge" considering that the Jets gave him possibly the worst moment of his career at this very same stadium in Super Bowl III. Didn't help that Richard Todd forgot that AJ Duhe wasn't a Jets receiver...
I'm so relieved that the NFL finally discovered common sense and allowed its clubs to sign players after the regular season ends. I'm not sure how von Schamann was able to play in the AFCCG, but he found a way!
I suspect the NFL did that because of the injury. I remember a couple of years later a team signing a player for a wild card game where they were facing the Giants in The Meadowlands and the New York papers made a big deal of that.
I'm remembering a Washington game from a couple years later where their punter was injured. Joe Theisman filled in and booted the ball exactly one yard. I'm not making this up.
Kickers were so much more important back then, and as a kid I knew every teams kicker like I knew every team’s quarterback. A few notables here, I miss the old jets uniforms, that was a great time to be a football fan. The nfl was so much fun in that period between so many great juggernauts. The Steelers & Cowboys had gotten old, the 49ers were not yet the unbeatable force they would become. Being a Steelers fan, I did enjoy watching these games, especially after thinking there might not even be a season in 82
Yes! I can still name most of the kickers and what team they played on in 82. Remember it was in 1983 (the video said 82 but I thought it was 83, I'll have to look it up) that Mark Mosley won the MVP. As a Dolphins fan, I never trusted Von Schaman after the two misses (well blocked FG) against the Chargers the year before. But he was a decent kicker.
Fact : the 6 seed advance to the AFC Championship game because due to the 57 day player strike to reduce 9 games and special for the 16 playoff tournament
Yes. The NFL was forced to do this because making up all games missed by the strike would have had the season extended to mid-late March and overlapping the NCAA Tournament.
40 years later and this game still hurts. I truly thought the Jets were going to the Super Bowl. Miami defeated the Jets three times that season. As you said, Uwe replaced Garo a few years earlier. He was really good as you said earlier. How ironic that the Dolphins defense got so weak by 1984. From 1978 to 1981 the Jets were 7-0-1 vs Miami. But 0-3 in 1982. Excellent about a game in mid December. If Miami had not made that 47 yard field goal , the Jets could have been the 2 seed and hosted this game
That's ok. As much as it still hurts for you today, what happened 2 weeks later hurt for me. More like ONE play still hurts. Theismann knocking that ball out of Bokamper's hands, still makes it too hard to watch. 😆
Hey, take some solace in the fact that at least your team isn’t a complete laughingstock of the NFL like the Arizona Cardinals or the Detroit Lions LOL.
This game, Shula ordered the field uncovered which left the field at the Orange Bowl in horrible shape. It played a huge part in why the Jets lost that game. The NFL after this I believe passed a rule the field has to be covered ahead of games in case unexpected weather hits. Never knew about this with von Schaman. This never was noted in the New York papers at the time.
Apparently, there was at least one season for the Wyoming Cavalry (an indoor team) had no kickers on their roster and just went for two after every touchdown. They got away with this because their league, the American Indoor Football Association, was loosely monitored from the league office, and they had to hire a kicker again when they moved to the better-run Indoor Football League.
Honestly Joe Burrow trying to be a field goal kicker doesn't seem all that bad. You never know. Patrick Mahomes could even try to be field goal kicker for one play. 😅
The rule in 1965 froze the roster after the next-to-last game. That is why Tom Matte had to play QB in the playoff with Green Bay. They had used street free agents in the regular season finale.
Okay, I'm going to put my ignorance on display here for everyone to make fun of, but that's okay, asking questions is how you learn things. What, exactly is the rule now as far signing players off the street? The college season is over by the time the NFL playoffs come around, could you sign a senior who just completed his eligibility. And if you can do that, what's to prevent you from signing the top quarterback prospect as an "emergency substitute" and getting around the draft? I'm sure the scenario I described isn't legal, but what exactly is the rule that prevents it?
In the opening game of the 1950 season -- essentially the game that decided the 1949 championship, as the two leagues from 1949 had coalesced and the champions from each league were playing each other -- the Browns' great kicker Lou Groza got injured on the opening play and a fellow named Chubby Grigg had to take over the kicking duties. He went 5-for-5 on extra points and did not have to attempt a field goal as the Browns smashed the Eagles 35-10.
Different era then. Plus miami was still more of a running team and their passing game was one of the worst back then. Until the next year with Marino of course. But in 3 games against the Jets that year, Miami had 13 interceptions against them in '82.
Correction. There were 5 playoff teams in 81 and 83, 2 wildcards and 3 division winners per conference. In 82 it was 8 per conference. All I know is use never was right again
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how Danny White’s dentist allowed White to play in the Cowboys playoff game that season against the Buccaneers.
Unfortunately, even though the Dolphins were 3 point favorites for _Super Bowl XVII_ on January 30, 1983, they lost to the Washington Redskins, 27-17, as the Redskins would win their first Super Bowl ever.
First time a team lost a super bowl having the lead going into the 4th quarter. Theismann knocking that ball out of Bokamper's hands is still painful to watch as a vintage Phin fan. 😆
@@bdog1323 I know how it feels... basketball, but Game 7 of the 2005 NBA Finals, and my Detroit Pistons implode in the second half of the fourth quarter to miss out on their opportunity for back-to-back NBA Championships.
@@bjchit Even though he was 0 for 3 on his only drive, I agree, Strock should have been put in earlier, like at the beginning of the 4th quarter at least.
I was a college freshman and bet a Dolphins fan a 6 pack of beer over the game. When I saw that von Schamann was injured and doubtful, I doubled the bet. Then we turned on the game, saw the miserable conditions of the field, and realized the Jets were going to lose because their one advantage, team speed, was useless in the swamp that Shula had created by leaving the tarp off of the field the day before. The only lucky thing for me was that the Dolphins fan didn't have rich tastes. He was okay with two 6 packs of Budweiser to settle the bet.
I'm surprised Rozelle's NFL didn't gift Shula an exemption for his roster, maybe Old Shu's (sounds like shoes) didn't ask "Sneaky" Pete for a break since the NFL always bent over backwards for him!
The only person I have heard named Uwe. It's hard to believe the Dolphins did so well with David Woodley at QB. I still wish that 81 Dolphins team had made it to the super Bowl. There was about a 5-year run where the Dolphins were One of the top two or three teams in the NFL, from about 81 to 86. I miss those days.
Uwe Krupp from Germany played defense in the NHL for the Buffalo Sabres, New York Islanders and Colorado Avalanche - scored the Stanley Cup winning goal in OT in 1996
David Woodley, the worst QB to ever make a Super Bowl He was a below average quarterback that got carried by the Killer B’s I’ll never understand what Shula saw in that guy
Why are these old game videos so bad? Not just here but everywhere. I watched football back in the late 70s and early 80s and it was clearer. All these old game vids look so blurry now
Worn down tapes and recording technology The footage here was probably watched over and over for a period of 35 years before getting uploaded and converted to UA-cam and digital
So who was the kicker for the dolphins in the Super Bowl 2 weeks later when they got spanked by at that time the Washington Redskins? Obviously they shot Uwe up cmon dog u can kick the ball 3~5 times it’s the Super Bowl
von schamann was mediocre at best. in 84 his longest fg was only 37 yards though his services were limited due to some kid named Marino. got beat out in the 85 preseason by Faud Reveiz and you dont hear from him ever again.......
I call this game "Shula's Revenge" considering that the Jets gave him possibly the worst moment of his career at this very same stadium in Super Bowl III. Didn't help that Richard Todd forgot that AJ Duhe wasn't a Jets receiver...
Of course it happened in the 1982 season. The season that just keeps on giving.
I'm so relieved that the NFL finally discovered common sense and allowed its clubs to sign players after the regular season ends. I'm not sure how von Schamann was able to play in the AFCCG, but he found a way!
I suspect the NFL did that because of the injury. I remember a couple of years later a team signing a player for a wild card game where they were facing the Giants in The Meadowlands and the New York papers made a big deal of that.
I'm remembering a Washington game from a couple years later where their punter was injured. Joe Theisman filled in and booted the ball exactly one yard. I'm not making this up.
yep vs the 85' bears of all teams... got destroyed 45-10 by bears
Didn't JG9 do a video about Theismann also being a kick/punt returner? The man was versatile
@@jeffanderson3962 well theisman was obviously a great athlete but that day he punted vs bears didn't show it
Hey isn't that Ray Finkel?
Kickers were so much more important back then, and as a kid I knew every teams kicker like I knew every team’s quarterback. A few notables here, I miss the old jets uniforms, that was a great time to be a football fan. The nfl was so much fun in that period between so many great juggernauts. The Steelers & Cowboys had gotten old, the 49ers were not yet the unbeatable force they would become. Being a Steelers fan, I did enjoy watching these games, especially after thinking there might not even be a season in 82
Yes! I can still name most of the kickers and what team they played on in 82. Remember it was in 1983 (the video said 82 but I thought it was 83, I'll have to look it up) that Mark Mosley won the MVP. As a Dolphins fan, I never trusted Von Schaman after the two misses (well blocked FG) against the Chargers the year before. But he was a decent kicker.
Fact : the 6 seed advance to the AFC Championship game because due to the 57 day player strike to reduce 9 games and special for the 16 playoff tournament
Another fun fact, '82 is the first year a team beat another 3 times in the same year. Miami over the Jets.
Yes. The NFL was forced to do this because making up all games missed by the strike would have had the season extended to mid-late March and overlapping the NCAA Tournament.
I thought maybe the reason the Dolphins couldn’t sign a kicker was because there wasn’t a Mike-Mayer available.
A bright spot on an otherwise woeful Falcons team!
Both Mike-Mayers were available: Nick had been cut by the Bills after the strike, and Steve last played with the Colts in 1980.
40 years later and this game still hurts. I truly thought the Jets were going to the Super Bowl. Miami defeated the Jets three times that season. As you said, Uwe replaced Garo a few years earlier. He was really good as you said earlier. How ironic that the Dolphins defense got so weak by 1984. From 1978 to 1981 the Jets were 7-0-1 vs Miami. But 0-3 in 1982. Excellent about a game in mid December. If Miami had not made that 47 yard field goal , the Jets could have been the 2 seed and hosted this game
That's ok. As much as it still hurts for you today, what happened 2 weeks later hurt for me. More like ONE play still hurts. Theismann knocking that ball out of Bokamper's hands, still makes it too hard to watch. 😆
Hey, take some solace in the fact that at least your team isn’t a complete laughingstock of the NFL like the Arizona Cardinals or the Detroit Lions LOL.
Surprise! The 2023 NFC championship game just showed us what a team without a quarterback on the roster looks like.
1982, the gift that keeps on giving. Thank you JG9!
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If Bengals need a kicker, it's LB Logan Wilson.
Teaching a Punter how to Kick
That post season roster rule was ludicrous.
The A.J. Duhe game!
77% these days means your cut from the roster these days 😆
This game, Shula ordered the field uncovered which left the field at the Orange Bowl in horrible shape. It played a huge part in why the Jets lost that game. The NFL after this I believe passed a rule the field has to be covered ahead of games in case unexpected weather hits.
Never knew about this with von Schaman. This never was noted in the New York papers at the time.
Coaches at that time had the power to order the field uncovered?
@@mikevanriel7573 At that time they did. It was changed after this game.
That's Ray Finkle, not Uwe 😂😂😂
10:05 Between the Uprights is Lava ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Laces out!
Apparently, there was at least one season for the Wyoming Cavalry (an indoor team) had no kickers on their roster and just went for two after every touchdown. They got away with this because their league, the American Indoor Football Association, was loosely monitored from the league office, and they had to hire a kicker again when they moved to the better-run Indoor Football League.
What say you about the controversy of not putting a tarp over the field, thus leaving a wet/muddy field and a clusterfuck of a game?
Oh that's another story for another video. There's so much to dive into there
Honestly Joe Burrow trying to be a field goal kicker doesn't seem all that bad. You never know. Patrick Mahomes could even try to be field goal kicker for one play. 😅
The rule in 1965 froze the roster after the next-to-last game. That is why Tom Matte had to play QB in the playoff with Green Bay. They had used street free agents in the regular season finale.
13:05 when you have a three-letter first name, but your surname is too long.
Every time I hear, "THIS IS THE STORY", I think of the 80's Voltron cartoon. 👏
Okay, I'm going to put my ignorance on display here for everyone to make fun of, but that's okay, asking questions is how you learn things. What, exactly is the rule now as far signing players off the street? The college season is over by the time the NFL playoffs come around, could you sign a senior who just completed his eligibility. And if you can do that, what's to prevent you from signing the top quarterback prospect as an "emergency substitute" and getting around the draft? I'm sure the scenario I described isn't legal, but what exactly is the rule that prevents it?
If this happened to the browns, they could just let Kareem Hunt do the kicking…
"When you're a kicker... your body is not built for that."
There's a Mr. Janikowski on line 3 who wants a word with you. :)
Forgot about VCR tracking settings....ah the memories.😊
It didn't even matter my j-e-t-s lost
Just End The Season
Just Embrace The Suck
BRO!-Joe in Saddle River
I remember this WELL.
In the 1976 AFC Championship game Ray Mansfield had the place kick after Roy Gerela pulled a groin. Mansfield did have experience kicking in college.
Anybody remember "Gerela's Gorillas", which included a fan who actually wore a gorilla suit to the games?
In the opening game of the 1950 season -- essentially the game that decided the 1949 championship, as the two leagues from 1949 had coalesced and the champions from each league were playing each other -- the Browns' great kicker Lou Groza got injured on the opening play and a fellow named Chubby Grigg had to take over the kicking duties. He went 5-for-5 on extra points and did not have to attempt a field goal as the Browns smashed the Eagles 35-10.
Today half the coaches would go for the 1st or TD if within red zone especially with a dominating D.
Only 14 points on 5 INTs ...?
Different era then. Plus miami was still more of a running team and their passing game was one of the worst back then. Until the next year with Marino of course. But in 3 games against the Jets that year, Miami had 13 interceptions against them in '82.
Correction. There were 5 playoff teams in 81 and 83, 2 wildcards and 3 division winners per conference. In 82 it was 8 per conference. All I know is use never was right again
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how Danny White’s dentist allowed White to play in the Cowboys playoff game that season against the Buccaneers.
Unfortunately, even though the Dolphins were 3 point favorites for _Super Bowl XVII_ on January 30, 1983, they lost to the Washington Redskins, 27-17, as the Redskins would win their first Super Bowl ever.
First time a team lost a super bowl having the lead going into the 4th quarter. Theismann knocking that ball out of Bokamper's hands is still painful to watch as a vintage Phin fan. 😆
And lose to a QB that they once drafted.
@@bdog1323 I know how it feels... basketball, but Game 7 of the 2005 NBA Finals, and my Detroit Pistons implode in the second half of the fourth quarter to miss out on their opportunity for back-to-back NBA Championships.
@@bdog1323 Strock should have been inserted after 6th 3 and out in a row.
@@bjchit Even though he was 0 for 3 on his only drive, I agree, Strock should have been put in earlier, like at the beginning of the 4th quarter at least.
Maher > Dak
Wouldn’t the punter be the one to kick?
The 2 strike shortened seasons seem to be rife with controversy all these years later. However...
Why did they have the frozen roster rule anyway? I assume that problem wouldn't happen today.
I love this rule
Obviously overshadowed by the field conditions...
You mean by the Jets fans whining.
Okay . . . now I saw everything
the '82 season. the shortened season when nfl let every team into the playoffs. a playoff where even jets were a factor.
Miami didn't have Ray Finkle on the roster to back up von Schamann?
I was a college freshman and bet a Dolphins fan a 6 pack of beer over the game. When I saw that von Schamann was injured and doubtful, I doubled the bet. Then we turned on the game, saw the miserable conditions of the field, and realized the Jets were going to lose because their one advantage, team speed, was useless in the swamp that Shula had created by leaving the tarp off of the field the day before. The only lucky thing for me was that the Dolphins fan didn't have rich tastes. He was okay with two 6 packs of Budweiser to settle the bet.
The NFL changed the rules after that to where the fields have to be covered before a game.
I'm surprised Rozelle's NFL didn't gift Shula an exemption for his roster, maybe Old Shu's (sounds like shoes) didn't ask "Sneaky" Pete for a break since the NFL always bent over backwards for him!
He had to do it because otherwise they were screwed.
The only person I have heard named Uwe.
It's hard to believe the Dolphins did so well with David Woodley at QB. I still wish that 81 Dolphins team had made it to the super Bowl. There was about a 5-year run where the Dolphins were One of the top two or three teams in the NFL, from about 81 to 86. I miss those days.
Uwe Krupp from Germany played defense in the NHL for the Buffalo Sabres, New York Islanders and Colorado Avalanche - scored the Stanley Cup winning goal in OT in 1996
@@ericfett9218 oh yeah, I actually remember the guy now that you mentioned it. That was a stacked Avs team that year
0:20 Ray Finkle
Lol, somehow, in the 1980s, a player with a serious injury "miraculously" managed to play in the game. Hmmm.
David Woodley, the worst QB to ever make a Super Bowl
He was a below average quarterback that got carried by the Killer B’s
I’ll never understand what Shula saw in that guy
All that lead up to say he played in the game. Talk about clickbait.
Don't ASSUME, JG9
because neither of us are jackasses😏
Why are these old game videos so bad? Not just here but everywhere. I watched football back in the late 70s and early 80s and it was clearer. All these old game vids look so blurry now
Worn down tapes and recording technology
The footage here was probably watched over and over for a period of 35 years before getting uploaded and converted to UA-cam and digital
Uwe von Schamann aka Ray Finkle. Lol
This video could’ve been done in 3 minutes with all of the needed context.
So who was the kicker for the dolphins in the Super Bowl 2 weeks later when they got spanked by at that time the Washington Redskins?
Obviously they shot Uwe up cmon dog u can kick the ball 3~5 times it’s the Super Bowl
von schamann was mediocre at best. in 84 his longest fg was only 37 yards though his services were limited due to some kid named Marino. got beat out in the 85 preseason by Faud Reveiz and you dont hear from him ever again.......
Isn’t Von Schamann the guy in the Ace Ventura footage of Ray Finkel? Mustache and all
As a Dolphin fan, I can say we hated him.
I know how von Schamann was able to play. It's called novocaine.
Miami wasn't missing much without Uwe von Schamann.
Uwe is pronounced Oo-vay
Of course the Jests always find a way to lose