Thanks for this video. I like your knot, that you used to attach the swivel. I used more advanced knots for FG, but this one is very simple and reliable.
@@Mikko.seppanen I tested your leader for 2 days in the Netherlands and I am thrilled! It is great to move into the rings and throw with the baitcaster. Pikes up to 1.07m were absolutely no problem and in a few seconds, again ready for use. Thanks for sharing 😊🤙
I will have to try this knot out sometime, although I haves always used a knot called the (Canoe Man Knot) that’s never failed me the 15 years I’ve been using it. Works well with 20-130lb test fluorocarbon or monofilament. I made a video on my page here about Tipup Leaders for Pike and Musky Leaders showing how one the knot. Great info though, fluorocarbon definitely helps land more Pike, and gives a more stealthy approach to your lures.
Mikko, what size of swivel and split rings are you using in the video? Or better yet, how do you go about picking the correct size for a swivel or split ring?
An FG knot would probably be much better than weakening the line with heat. Not to mention that you'll probably end up with sharp hard fluorocarbon edges rubbing against your braid.
Well although it’s 3yrs late. You’re not weaken the line with heat. Only the stops were heated at the tips but will have zero effect if n the actual leader.
I only trying to make a leader like this weedless. It is annoying that the knot will pick up grass when i fish jigs between plants. I was thinking shrink tube and boiling water at home before giong to the lake
I would prefer to use a Surgeons Knot when tying Mono or Flurocarbon to Braid, Sowing it (3 times) with no swivel at all. I use this method for Snook and Tarpon in Florida and Stripers in Tennesee.
I am going to give this a whirl. The line to line set up looks a bit suspect but he would not tie this way if it was. Looks like a simple set up and easy enough to try.
Not sure what to think about uni knot part… I'm sure FG or Alberto knots are much stronger, but this is so quick and simple to do, even on stronger wind. I'll give it a try, for sure. I found perfect snaps, so i will just skip the swivel/split ring combo :)
Cool if you want to give it a try 😊 Me and loads of my friends have used this setup, including the uni knot, the last 7-8 years I think and it will hold. Never had a break on it and just as you said, it's very easy and fast to do 😊
johnny magee the problem with wire is that it gives you no signs. Perfect one minute, broken the next. The benefit of fluorocarbon over wire in this comparison is that you can see the damage and act before it’s finished.
@@Rapala I have never had a wire trace( or titanium) fail unexpectedly. Some of my to jerkbait traces are 2-3 seasons old and still look like new. I check the swivel for signs of wear. How many of your fluorocarbon traces last more than a few weeks?
@@nortchul11 Hi Johnny :) Just want to share my point of view and experience with different traces materials. I have truly tried them all and been experimenting for some good 15+ years and the solution in this video is in my opinion and experience the safest bet to not get bite offs och opened snaps. The thing with fluorocarbon is that it´s an honest material. If its damaged in any way it will always show.A quick inspection will tell if its safe to keep using or not. If there is no sign of getting worn out its safe to use. I also want to point out that im talking about Northern Pike fishing and thick fluorocarbon of at least 1,10mm (1,17mm used in vid). If you were to use a thinner fluorocarbon, lets say 0,90mm then even a fresh one can be cut in a single bite. And when were talking about 0,60 or even 0,40 some like to use its really asking for trouble and you will be lucky if its holding even for one bite. Of course even a very thick FC can be bit off if youre super unlucky but during my years of using the 1,17mm i have never had a bite off and ive only heard one of my friends had that happened. Thats close to 10 years of using this leader by many anglers and one time a big tooth hit so unforunate it cut the leader. If we want to be 100% we would use an inch thick stainless wire but thats not realistic. When talking about other materials like single and multi strand stainless, titanium, piano wire, coated or uncoated ive had them all and have had all them break many times. These materials are very strong at first but they are sneaky. Youre not always gonna see them kink which totally destroyes the strength of the material and suddenly they snap like nothing. They become very weak when kinked. Many times you see the kink and hopefully trash and replace it but sometimes you dont. Ive had so many suprise snaps on non seen kinked wires i couldnt trust them at all in the end. Crimped wires will also break and the crimps come loose sometimes. Fluorocarbon doenst get weak by bending but all metallic material does. I just dont feel more safe but actually are more safe with a fluorocarbon leader as long as i use a thick one and dont get lazy but inspect the leader after every fish. It takes only seconds to check and if we cant take a few seconds to check for the sake of the fish well being maybe we shouldnt be fishing. Its also very fast to cut off the damaged part and retie it, much faster than replacing the entire traces. This is also much more cost effecient than replacing very expensive stainless/titanium tracers. Ive had so many more bite offs and snaps so other materials cant even compare to fluorocarbon and we have had this discussion many times among friends and on Swedish fishing forums and people seem to agree that fluorocarbon is the way to go. Of course we all should use what we believe in and done proper field test for many years but be carefull with those old wire and titanium tracers, they have been bent many times and therefore weakened. Kind regards, Mikko
Comments section summary: UK and Irish anglers insist on wire trace leaders for pike, Nordic anglers often prefer heavy fluorocarbon. Here in Canada I've used both. I prefer titanium wire for when I am fishing exclusively for pike or using topwater lures. I use heavy fluorocarbon leader when I am fishing in multi-species waters (like my local river with ~20 game fish species) so that I can catch other species, but if I happen to hook a pike I am not concerned about a bite-off. I have to check the leader quality often while river fishing anyway, so no problem.
love this comment, 100% using anything but metal wire and people would tell me that im doing it wrong. i would like to use this method if it really is tough enough to stand up to the teeth of the pike.
Relying on a small heat damaged flare ball end of the fluorocarbon to hold that half of a uni knot is not sufficient in my mind. You're far better off tying an FG knot
You are correct that they can easily bite of thin fluorocarbon. I see this over and over again when people insist using some 0,40mm fluorocarbon in waters with pike and get bit off all the time. But when you use a 1,17mm on they wont bite it off. Me and my friends, say 8 people in total, have been using this leader for 7-10 years and one of us have had one bite off on a fresh one. On wire and titanium ones me alone have had tens and tens of sudden snaps due kinking and bending which weaken the material and you dont always see the damage. With a FC you will see when its time to cut of the bad part. Be safe and care for the fish :)
Thin fluorocarbon they can, but I’ve seen a lot of pike and Muskie anglers these days using fluoro with great success. Especially in clear water. The thick diameter stuff is very durable.
Pike can easily bite through this stuff, there are enough videos showing people losing lures and the pike swimming away with a mouthful of metal/plastic/wood and hooks.This is very irresponsible advertising for Rapala. Use wire not fluorocarbon, it doesn't just suddenly break as claimed and pike cant bite through it.
Been using flourocarbon at 0.9 to 1.15 for a couple of years and not a single brake. Used wire for one season (both handmade and storebought). Had 10 to 12 brakes. Never use wire now exept for when im fishing for perch in waters with a lot of pikes. Would believe that Mikko knows whats up, after all hes out on the water way more than us (probably)
I think it has a lot to do with both rods, line and size of the pikes as well the way you set the hooks. But I think we can agree on that for some wire works best and för some the flourocarbon. No needs to argument more than we need. Tight lines man or Skitfiske as we say here in Sweden :)
no, no, no 1) FG knot 2) 0.6 millimeters is enough 3) 45 centimeters is enough 4) swivel is not needed, only the clasp. The equipment in the video is too cumbersome.
NEVER EVER USE FLUOROCARBON AS A LEADER . It's not even 80 percent safe . A Pike swimming around with line hanging out its mouth , plus a hook is not good enough and shame on any of you using it. Please do not fish here with that crap , you don't care about fish safety , only the sport .
You are correct that they can easily bite of thin fluorocarbon. I see this over and over again when people insist using some 0,40mm fluorocarbon in waters with pike and get bit off all the time. But when you use a 1,17mm on they wont bite it off. Me and my friends, say 8 people in total, have been using this leader for 7-10 years and one of us have had one bite off on a fresh one. On wire and titanium ones me alone have had tens and tens of sudden snaps due kinking and bending which weaken the material and you dont always see the damage. With a FC you will see when its time to cut of the bad part. Theres plenty more pikes swimming around in Swedish waters with lures in their mount from snapped wire and titanium leaders than with a very thick fluorocarbon. That is a fact. Be safe and care for the fish :)
@@Mikko.seppanen that's still one too many . I have fished for Pike for over 25 years and have never had a wire trace snap . Learn to make them properly . One dead fish is too many so don't be proud of that .
@@TheSavagederek i have a hard time believing that someone fishing for 25 years never had a tracer or line break with a fish. Anyways what i tried to say is that we had 1 bite of in 10 years with the thick fluorocarbon but tenfolds with wire. One is of course unfortunate but its still better than say 30. The most important thing for us is to always do whatever we can to prevent these things happening and me and my friends get far less bite offs with the thick fc kept fresh so we will continue on that path. Tight lines Derek :)
@@TheSavagederek you dont speak to Mikko that way you twat. he is a professional fisherman unlike you. To say that you've fished for 25 years without a break means to me you've fished for 25 years without catching any fish. gtfo.
mind. blown. Awesome. Not that there aren't other methods out there, but because I learned something new.
Mikko, you're providing excellent information like always. THANKS
Thanks for this video. I like your knot, that you used to attach the swivel. I used more advanced knots for FG, but this one is very simple and reliable.
Superbe vidéo
Nice Video Mikko! Thank you for the tipp!
Wow. Impressive. Thanks.
Amazing! Going to try it tonight. Thank you! Can you do a video on how to tie the pre-made Sufix Wind-On Fluorocarbon Leader?
Looks verry quick and easy, i will try it 😁👍
Cool! 😊👊
@@Mikko.seppanen
I tested your leader for 2 days in the Netherlands and I am thrilled! It is great to move into the rings and throw with the baitcaster. Pikes up to 1.07m were absolutely no problem and in a few seconds, again ready for use. Thanks for sharing 😊🤙
@@normenbuchmuller4705 thanks for reporting back! Im glad you liked the leader and can be more effective targeting those big pike :)
Thanks for the tips👍
I will have to try this knot out sometime, although I haves always used a knot called the (Canoe Man Knot) that’s never failed me the 15 years I’ve been using it. Works well with 20-130lb test fluorocarbon or monofilament. I made a video on my page here about Tipup Leaders for Pike and Musky Leaders showing how one the knot. Great info though, fluorocarbon definitely helps land more Pike, and gives a more stealthy approach to your lures.
Amazing 👍👍👍
Mikko, what size of swivel and split rings are you using in the video? Or better yet, how do you go about picking the correct size for a swivel or split ring?
Good ideas
An FG knot would probably be much better than weakening the line with heat. Not to mention that you'll probably end up with sharp hard fluorocarbon edges rubbing against your braid.
Well although it’s 3yrs late. You’re not weaken the line with heat. Only the stops were heated at the tips but will have zero effect if n the actual leader.
Bry dig inte om alla idioter Mikko, grymt informativt och bra som vanligt!
I only trying to make a leader like this weedless. It is annoying that the knot will pick up grass when i fish jigs between plants. I was thinking shrink tube and boiling water at home before giong to the lake
what size of braid was that?
que calibre de fluorcarbono usar
Which jacket model you're wearing?
Dear friend, how thick is your hand and how do you like Duel Yuriki?
Damn good tip ...
I would prefer to use a Surgeons Knot when tying Mono or Flurocarbon to Braid, Sowing it (3 times) with no swivel at all. I use this method for Snook and Tarpon in Florida and Stripers in Tennesee.
Smart!
I am going to give this a whirl. The line to line set up looks a bit suspect but he would not tie this way if it was. Looks like a simple set up and easy enough to try.
I make the FG Not,if i take Hardmono.
Bra video. Kastar du skarven genom ögglorna?
Nej, jag lämnar alltid skarven utanför ringarna :)
Funkar det med nylon tafs?
tyvär nej
@@jesperbjorn7880 det gör de visst, varför skulle de inte gå
How thic is flurocarbon
Not sure what to think about uni knot part… I'm sure FG or Alberto knots are much stronger, but this is so quick and simple to do, even on stronger wind. I'll give it a try, for sure. I found perfect snaps, so i will just skip the swivel/split ring combo :)
Cool if you want to give it a try 😊 Me and loads of my friends have used this setup, including the uni knot, the last 7-8 years I think and it will hold. Never had a break on it and just as you said, it's very easy and fast to do 😊
@@Mikko.seppanen It's always nice to learn new things. Thanks for sharing!
@@arabarran thx for your feedback 😊
1.17mm ? This is targeted for 79 kg? Are you fishing for a crocodile? Haven't seen such pike around here :)
Zlati Pehlivanov well you use a thick one so it can withstand teeth, stones etc better then lets say a 0.80mm
more proof that fluorocarbon is not suitable for traces.
@@nortchul11 yeah i bet Mikko doesn't know what he's talking about xD
Line weight has absolutely nothing to do with how heavy or strong the fish is, and everything to do with how sharp pike teeth are.
If you have to check the leader after every fish for teeth marks would it not be better to use wire?
johnny magee the problem with wire is that it gives you no signs. Perfect one minute, broken the next. The benefit of fluorocarbon over wire in this comparison is that you can see the damage and act before it’s finished.
@@Rapala I have never had a wire trace( or titanium) fail unexpectedly. Some of my to jerkbait traces are 2-3 seasons old and still look like new. I check the swivel for signs of wear. How many of your fluorocarbon traces last more than a few weeks?
Rapala shame on you . That is utter nonsense . Go ask Mick Brown if he thinks fluro is safe . I'll never buy your lures again .
@@TheSavagederek totally agree, "use strong line so you don't break off but use flouro and get bit off instead"
@@nortchul11
Hi Johnny :)
Just want to share my point of view and experience with different traces materials. I have truly tried them all and been experimenting for some good 15+ years and the solution in this video is in my opinion and experience the safest bet to not get bite offs och opened snaps.
The thing with fluorocarbon is that it´s an honest material. If its damaged in any way it will always show.A quick inspection will tell if its safe to keep using or not. If there is no sign of getting worn out its safe to use. I also want to point out that im talking about Northern Pike fishing and thick fluorocarbon of at least 1,10mm (1,17mm used in vid). If you were to use a thinner fluorocarbon, lets say 0,90mm then even a fresh one can be cut in a single bite. And when were talking about 0,60 or even 0,40 some like to use its really asking for trouble and you will be lucky if its holding even for one bite.
Of course even a very thick FC can be bit off if youre super unlucky but during my years of using the 1,17mm i have never had a bite off and ive only heard one of my friends had that happened. Thats close to 10 years of using this leader by many anglers and one time a big tooth hit so unforunate it cut the leader. If we want to be 100% we would use an inch thick stainless wire but thats not realistic.
When talking about other materials like single and multi strand stainless, titanium, piano wire, coated or uncoated ive had them all and have had all them break many times. These materials are very strong at first but they are sneaky. Youre not always gonna see them kink which totally destroyes the strength of the material and suddenly they snap like nothing. They become very weak when kinked. Many times you see the kink and hopefully trash and replace it but sometimes you dont. Ive had so many suprise snaps on non seen kinked wires i couldnt trust them at all in the end. Crimped wires will also break and the crimps come loose sometimes. Fluorocarbon doenst get weak by bending but all metallic material does.
I just dont feel more safe but actually are more safe with a fluorocarbon leader as long as i use a thick one and dont get lazy but inspect the leader after every fish. It takes only seconds to check and if we cant take a few seconds to check for the sake of the fish well being maybe we shouldnt be fishing. Its also very fast to cut off the damaged part and retie it, much faster than replacing the entire traces. This is also much more cost effecient than replacing very expensive stainless/titanium tracers.
Ive had so many more bite offs and snaps so other materials cant even compare to fluorocarbon and we have had this discussion many times among friends and on Swedish fishing forums and people seem to agree that fluorocarbon is the way to go.
Of course we all should use what we believe in and done proper field test for many years but be carefull with those old wire and titanium tracers, they have been bent many times and therefore weakened.
Kind regards,
Mikko
Comments section summary: UK and Irish anglers insist on wire trace leaders for pike, Nordic anglers often prefer heavy fluorocarbon.
Here in Canada I've used both. I prefer titanium wire for when I am fishing exclusively for pike or using topwater lures. I use heavy fluorocarbon leader when I am fishing in multi-species waters (like my local river with ~20 game fish species) so that I can catch other species, but if I happen to hook a pike I am not concerned about a bite-off. I have to check the leader quality often while river fishing anyway, so no problem.
love this comment, 100% using anything but metal wire and people would tell me that im doing it wrong. i would like to use this method if it really is tough enough to stand up to the teeth of the pike.
Relying on a small heat damaged flare ball end of the fluorocarbon to hold that half of a uni knot is not sufficient in my mind. You're far better off tying an FG knot
The PAC would not advocate the use of flurocarbon when fishing for pike.
Sorry not a fan of Fluorocarbon
Don't do it, pike have teeth they bite through florucarbon then die. We'll done Rapala for for such an informative video on how to kill pike 👍
You are correct that they can easily bite of thin fluorocarbon. I see this over and over again when people insist using some 0,40mm fluorocarbon in waters with pike and get bit off all the time. But when you use a 1,17mm on they wont bite it off. Me and my friends, say 8 people in total, have been using this leader for 7-10 years and one of us have had one bite off on a fresh one. On wire and titanium ones me alone have had tens and tens of sudden snaps due kinking and bending which weaken the material and you dont always see the damage. With a FC you will see when its time to cut of the bad part.
Be safe and care for the fish :)
Thin fluorocarbon they can, but I’ve seen a lot of pike and Muskie anglers these days using fluoro with great success. Especially in clear water. The thick diameter stuff is very durable.
Bad practise, very surprised Rapala endorse the use of anything other than wire for leader material.
One customer lost here!!!
Oh I bet they will go bankrupt without your business. LMAO 😂
Are you daft? :D
Pike can easily bite through this stuff, there are enough videos showing people losing lures and the pike swimming away with a mouthful of metal/plastic/wood and hooks.This is very irresponsible advertising for Rapala. Use wire not fluorocarbon, it doesn't just suddenly break as claimed and pike cant bite through it.
Been using flourocarbon at 0.9 to 1.15 for a couple of years and not a single brake. Used wire for one season (both handmade and storebought). Had 10 to 12 brakes. Never use wire now exept for when im fishing for perch in waters with a lot of pikes. Would believe that Mikko knows whats up, after all hes out on the water way more than us (probably)
funny that---I've used wire for over 40 years, still waiting for the first break.
I think it has a lot to do with both rods, line and size of the pikes as well the way you set the hooks. But I think we can agree on that for some wire works best and för some the flourocarbon. No needs to argument more than we need. Tight lines man or Skitfiske as we say here in Sweden :)
@@skidrow2016 well said
no, no, no 1) FG knot 2) 0.6 millimeters is enough 3)
45 centimeters is enough 4) swivel is not needed, only the clasp. The equipment in the video is too cumbersome.
NEVER EVER USE FLUOROCARBON AS A LEADER . It's not even 80 percent safe . A Pike swimming around with line hanging out its mouth , plus a hook is not good enough and shame on any of you using it. Please do not fish here with that crap , you don't care about fish safety , only the sport .
You are correct that they can easily bite of thin fluorocarbon. I see this over and over again when people insist using some 0,40mm fluorocarbon in waters with pike and get bit off all the time. But when you use a 1,17mm on they wont bite it off. Me and my friends, say 8 people in total, have been using this leader for 7-10 years and one of us have had one bite off on a fresh one. On wire and titanium ones me alone have had tens and tens of sudden snaps due kinking and bending which weaken the material and you dont always see the damage. With a FC you will see when its time to cut of the bad part.
Theres plenty more pikes swimming around in Swedish waters with lures in their mount from snapped wire and titanium leaders than with a very thick fluorocarbon. That is a fact.
Be safe and care for the fish :)
@@Mikko.seppanen that's still one too many . I have fished for Pike for over 25 years and have never had a wire trace snap . Learn to make them properly . One dead fish is too many so don't be proud of that .
@@TheSavagederek i have a hard time believing that someone fishing for 25 years never had a tracer or line break with a fish. Anyways what i tried to say is that we had 1 bite of in 10 years with the thick fluorocarbon but tenfolds with wire. One is of course unfortunate but its still better than say 30. The most important thing for us is to always do whatever we can to prevent these things happening and me and my friends get far less bite offs with the thick fc kept fresh so we will continue on that path.
Tight lines Derek :)
@@TheSavagederek you dont speak to Mikko that way you twat. he is a professional fisherman unlike you. To say that you've fished for 25 years without a break means to me you've fished for 25 years without catching any fish. gtfo.
ultimate care about fish safety would be staying away from waters and quitting the fishing in the fist place. You might start with that.