Catelyn may have done/said many (many, many many) stupid things, but ultimately all of her children ended up suffering because they didn’t listen to her advice in very specific instances. If Robb had married the Frey girl like he was supposed to, he wouldn’t have been murdered. If Bran had stopped climbing, he wouldn’t have been crippled. If Arya had behaved herself around the royal family, she wouldn’t have ended up in Braavos. If Sansa had listened to her mother’s words (family, duty, honour) and sided with her family instead of Joffrey, she wouldn’t have gone through what she did and Lady would still be alive. Rickon is the exception because he’s about three and therefore not really a player in the game
@@trevormarshall2817except that if Barristan doesn't get dismissed from the Kingsguard and then go seek her out, odds are good that she gets got by that dude who tries to assassinate her with a scorpion. "Arstan Whitebeard" is the one to save her; no one else moved swiftly enough. If Barristan is still in KL, then Dany never makes it out of that market.
Totally see Ned disagreeing and trying to stop the Assassins going after Dany, maybe warning Jorah. Arya will continue training with Syrio Forrel and maybe eventually he goes into Ned's service and ends up at Winterfell. The three- eyed raven may also go after Jojen to take his place, he has visions too.
What if Petyr didn't think to tell Catelyn the dagger was Tyrion's? What if Bronn did volunteer to be Tyrion's? champion? What if Renly accepted Stannis offer at Storm's End? What if Jaime died at the whispering wood? What if Ser Barristan weren't dismissed from the Kingsguard?
What if Catelyn did not leave the North and none of her bad decisions were made. She didn't tell Ned to trust Petyr, she never takes Tyrion prisoner, she never negotiates Robb marrying a Frey, she never releases Jaime. She just stays in the North.
Bronn doesn't become Tyrions Champion, Tyrion is sent through the moon door and I don't think the Vale actually gets to set out the War in this timeline. They'd be hard to invade but I imagine they'd be forced to actually side with the North and the Riverlands.
@@movieloverfan18she makes bad decisions but if she never negotiates with the Freys, Robb might not be able to cross at the Twins. He seemed intent on besieging them from what I remember in the books if Walder did not allow them to cross, which would fall into the Lannister trap.
Jon Snow being trained by Brynden Rivers is a very intriguing concept, especially if he can learn about his true parentage that way. Also, if Ned does survive and goes back North, he can have that conversation with Jon as well. Hmmmmm
Had another idea in pop in my head, and this one actually makes a lotta sense. What if instead of lucerys going to Storms End, Rhaenyra sends Rhaenys to secure the Baratheon's loyalty. Since shes half Baratheon, I could see her having a better chance of swaying Borros to her side, or at least keeping him neutral. Then theres the whole Aemond problem, but I have no idea how that would play out.
There would be no reason for him to do that. Why would he give up him dream or being a Knight, and how would a child convince his father to let him go out by himself to be the three eyed raven
Wait a minute, Bloodraven would’ve reached out Jon which would’ve made it even more of a song of ice and fire because John would’ve been a Targaryen and taken on brand role as well?! So not only whatever character have been better and all the conflict have been avoided but season eight wouldn’t have been a disappointment too?!
@@mariedaparellio5686 Bloodraven in book cannon reached Jon multiple times. BUT he have completely different role to play for Jon so thats all just straight inaccurate with book cannon. As I wrote in other comment the person that would replace Bran would be Rickon who was already speculated to be the “one” and more powerful but Jojen choose Bran because the visions are hard to interpret.
19:45 well that’s inaccurate. Bloodraven wouldn’t go for Jon because he had different plans for Jon from the beginning. He would go for Rickon and it’s already speculated that Rickon was probably the “one” and more powerful than Bran but the visions are unclear that’s why Jojen decided that’s Bran.
What if Jaime Lannister & Lyanna Stark fell in love? And they ran away together? How would the events change? That would've been a video I would love to watch ❤❤❤❤😊
What if Brandon Snow had actually used the weirwood arrows and killed the Conquerors' dragons ? (but maybe not their riders or maybe even just one or two of the dragons) What would Westeros look like now ? Cause would the ones who bent the knee still be on the Targs side after that ? How would the Targs-Starks relationships have developed?
Regarding bronn: iirc when tyrion arrives at the inn where he got captured in Canon, there is No free room, so he offers anyone WHO shares their room with him Money. Bronn is the one to Take the offer. I would guess that would be enough dor the two of them to Bond ans bronn, seeing more Money in the Future, trying to follow bronn. Beides that, tyrion would probably never meet shae.
3:10 Unless I am super mistaken, is it not confirmed that Joffrey was the one who sent the catspaw after he overheard Robert saying that Bran would be better off dead? I could've sworn that was canon.
The show kind of made the Starks more rustic than they where in the books. House Stark in the novels where not as wealthy as the Lannister's but they where a lot wealthier than the show. First lets look at what they wear in the books which is nothing like there costumes in the show. Side note Lord Rickard owned Steel armour and gold spurs. When Arya is packing to go to Kings Landing she files where chest with silk and Sansa is fond of blue silk. In Kings Landing Eddard looked nothing like what he did in the show, he always wore what he called his council silk. Ned also commissions a new uniform for his guards. Long cloaks of heavy grey wool decorated with white satin borders. Their cloaks are pinned with hands of beaten silver representing there Lords office as hand of the King. When he was on the Iron Throne Ned wore a white double embosomed with a grey dire wolf. In Winterfell at the feast welcoming the King and Royal Family they all dressed grandly, including Benjen Stark. There are high born brothers in the Nights Witch from the north and south and I have never seen one dressed as well as Benjen at that feast, not even Lord Commander Mormont himself. He wears rich black velvet high black leather boots. His wide belt has a silver buckle and very heavy silver chain. When Bran is attacked by Wildlings he is attacked for what he is wearing and he is second legitimate son and he is wearing a wolfs head broch of silver and jet. Jet is a gemstone and this is not a formal event this is just outriding in the woods. Jon wears fine blacks and mole skin gloves which would not be cheap. At Winterfell harvest feast Bran is dressed quote, as befits a Prince and Robb wears a bronze crown and Catelyn describes her sons royal Kingly attire as quote magnificent. Also Theon Greyjoy dressed very well when he was living with Stark in silk and Gold and Balon fears the Starks have made him soft. I doubt Greyjoy money was funding Theon's extravagant lifestyle. When he takes Winterfell he crowns himself Prince of Winterfell and orders and orders a new crown forged with black diamonds and chunks of gold. Where did he get the gold and diamonds if not from Winterfell's plundered treasury. And before Winterfell Bran and Luwin gave the Manderley's gold and build a royal fleet and mint coins. At the Winterfell harvest feast Now lets look at Winterfell it is much bigger and much grander than in the show this is a Castle built of granite which is an opulent martial. Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres and encircled by two massive granite walls. Remember the Castle is built over natural hot springs and as the wiki explains. The water is piped through walls and chambers to heat them, making Winterfell more comfortable than other castles during the harsh northern winters. Also from the wiki Inside the walls, the complex is composed of dozens of courtyards and small open spaces. Weapons training and practice take place in those yards. The inner ward is a second, much older open space in the castle where archery practice takes place. It is located next to the broken tower. Inside Winterfell stands the inner castle, which contains the Great Keep and the Great Hall. Winterfell's towers and halls have diamond-shaped window panes.[6] Inner Castle The Great Keep is the innermost castle and stronghold of the castle complex. It was built over natural hot springs to keep it warm.[5] The Great Keep contains bedchambers for House Stark[5] as well as the solar of Lord Eddard Stark.[7] The building is connected to the armory by a covered bridge.[8] From a window on the covered bridge, one can see the entire yard.[9] Beneath the Great Keep are cellars with narrow windows.[10] The Great Hall is used for receiving guests and the place where the household dines together, including the Lord of Winterfell. It is made of grey stone[11] and has wide doors made of oak and iron,[12] which opens to the castle yard, and a rear exit leads to a dimly-lit gallery.[12] Inside it can hold eight long rows of trestle tables, four to each side of the central aisle,[12] and the hall can seat five hundred people.[13] There is a raised platform for noble guests, and the walls are covered with banners.[11] The hall contains the high seat of the old Kings in the North. The seat's cold stone has been polished by the many lords who have sat upon it, and its massive arms are decorated with the carved heads of snarling direwolves.[14][15] The small sept was built for Lady Catelyn Tully, a southron, by her husband, Lord Eddard.[16] Courtyard and Other Buildings The First Keep, a squat and round drum tower, is the oldest surviving part of the castle but is no longer in use. Around it lies a lichyard where the Kings of Winter would bury their loyal servants. The keep has gargoyles atop it.[17][6] Maester Kennet determined it was built after the Andals arrived.[18] The broken tower, also known as the Burned Tower, was once the tallest watchtower in Winterfell. Over 140 years ago a lightning strike set it afire and the top third collapsed inward, but no one rebuilt it.[19][20] It stands behind the old inner ward. Crows nest atop the broken tower.[19] The ancient godswood of Winterfell has stood untouched for ten thousand years, with three acres of old packed earth and close-together trees creating a dense canopy, which the castle was built around. At the center of the grove stands an ancient weirwood with a face carved into it, standing over a pool of black water.[16] Across the godswood from the heart tree, beneath the windows of the Guest House, an underground hot spring feeds three small pools, with a moss-covered wall looming above them. The godswood is enclosed by walls, and is accessed by a main iron gate, or smaller wooden ones. The Glass Gardens[21] is a greenhouse heated by the hot springs, which turn it into a place of moist warmth.[5] It is used to grow fruits, vegetables, and flowers.[9][22] The garden has green and yellow glass panes[10] locked in frames.[8] The crypt of Winterfell, located near the First Keep, is where members of House Stark are buried. The underground crypts are long and narrow, with pillars moving two by two along its length. Between pillars stand the sepulchers of the Starks of Winterfell, the likenesses of the dead seated on thrones, with iron swords set before them to keep the restless spirits from wandering, and snarling direwolves at their feet. The crypts are deep under the earth, cavernous and bigger than the complex above ground. They are accessed by a twisting stone stair and a huge ironwood door that lies at a slant to the floor. The stair continues below to older levels where the most ancient Kings in the North are entombed.[23][17][10] The Bell Tower is connected to the rookery by a bridge. The bridge is covered and runs from the fourth floor of the tower to the second floor of the rookery.[6][8] The maester's turret is below the rookery.[24] The Library Tower houses the library at Winterfell. A stonework staircase winds about its exterior.[8] The Guards Hall is in line with the Bell Tower, and further back, the First Keep.[6] Winterfell has undercrofts and cellars.[25] The castle also has dungeons,[25] including tower cells.[26] Walls Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres, defended by two massive walls of grey granite with a wide moat between them.[4] The outer wall is eighty feet high, while the inner is one hundred feet high.[4] There are guard turrets on the outer wall and more than thirty watch turrets on the crenelated inner walls. The great main gates[7] have a gatehouse made of two huge crenelated bulwarks which flank the arched gate[8] and a drawbridge that opens into the market square of the winter town.[27][28] There is a narrow tunnel inside of the inner wall stretching halfway around the castle, allowing travel from the south gate all the way to the north gate without interruption.[19] The Hunter's Gate is close to the kennels and the kitchens. It opens directly onto open fields and the wolfswood, so people can come and go without having to cross through the winter town. It is favored by hunting parties.[4] The East Gate[10] or east gate[29] leads to the kingsroad.[10] The Kingsroad Gate[7] may be another name for the same gate. The Battlements Gate is a small arched postern in the inner wall. It crosses the moat between the walls but does not have a passageway through the outer wall.[7]# When Jon Snow becomes Lord Commander of the Nights Watch he considers building a glass building but thinks it will be costly and for such fine glass he would need to look Myr and by the freedom of a few glass makers. We know Sansa loves lemon cakes and lemon trees do not grow naturally in the north importing lemon seeds to Winterfell from the reach or Doren would not be cheap. My guess would be the seeds came form Doren as one need only sail up the narrow sea than the up the White Knife. Finally Maester Luwin has his own turret and mentions having servents of his own. The Starks top servants have servants Not as wealthy as the Lannister but it clear Ned and Robb after him where unlike in the show 2 of the wealthiest man in the world.
Then imagine how rich the Tyrells are, considering they have all of the food, it seems the Isles are even more broke than some small lords in the Westerlands, like the Westerlings and Cleganes
What if Rhaenyra took Gwayne Hightower as a Lover instead of Harwin Strong? What if Lucerys lost his eye *instead* of Aemond? What if both Lucerys & Aemond died in episode 10? What if Aemma Arryn last child, Baelon was born a girl that married Aegon-II? What if Viserys had Aegon II married Rhaenyra *After* Laenor’s death? What if Rhaenyra was like Jaehaerys The Conciliator? What if Rhaenyra Targaryen married Borros Baratheon? What if Viserys-I made Rhaenyra Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death? What if Viserys-I made Rhaenys Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death? What if Viserys-I made Daemon Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death? What if Rhaenyra married Otto after Alicent married Viserys? What if Aegon-III lived longer and made his Daughter Daena hair after the death of his sons? What if Myrcella “Baratheon” married Robb Stark instead Joffrey & Sansa? What if Jamie Lannister was at the Tower Of Joy instead of Gerold Hightower? What if Rhaelle Baratheon, Robert, Stannis & Renly’s grandmother was still alive during Robert’s Rebellion?
Besides the possibility of Bran squiring to Selmy, there's also Ser Loras Tyrell... which might have resulted in Bran learning about a different liaison. I wonder if Ned (and Cat) had started looking into possible marriage matches for Arya and Bran. I suppose for Bran, Lyanna Mormont might have been an option. Jojen Reed would likely come up as a possible match for Arya. And then there's Theon that Ned has to deal with. On paper, Arya would make sense... but it's hard to see that one actually being realized.
@@Hektols And also the Reeds and the Mormonts are super loyal already anyway, they wouldn't need to make those alliances. If anything, Cat will probably want to marry them off to southern houses, most likely from the Reach, or even the Westerlands but Ned might oppose the latter because he doesn't like Lannisters.
Disagree, I think the fact that he survived is directly linked to him being injured at the time. It also moved the plot and helped it. If he had been healthy, he would have been killed long ago
Still would have problems. Ned was already becoming aware of because of his investigation of John Arryn's murder. So if Bran didn't fall, he wouldn't be the raven and winter would come with a lot less notice so the whitewalkers would be able to cause a lot more damage.
how? most of bran's warnings went completely ignored. in the books im sure its important but in the show, he arguably only ever made things worse by going to the Raven
Lyanna was like 12 when rhaenys was born, and probably 11 when they got married, so it wouldn't be that great. I dont even think rhaegar knew about lyanna then
Vow of Celibacy not Chasity those are two entirely different things: the former is no sex at all, the latter is only during marriage, abstenance before marriage and faithfulness afterwards, these are two different things. Also anyone else think the vows of Celibacy in this setting are dumb I think they are due to the fact that they are largely ignored. Also for a more interesting scenario what if Aegon never converted to the Faith of the Seven and burned Oldtown, also what if this scenario Rhaenys never died to a fluke incident because I honestly think that was the Valyrian gods lashing out for apostasy, the Seven don't exist but the Valyrian Gods likely due because of the fact Valyrian magic exists, Magic has a source and it by and large it tends to be tied to external factors like deities I mean the Drowned Men are evidence enough that the Drowned God exists in my opinion and the magic of the Red Priests is proof that the Red God also exists and well the White Walkers existing in the books at least means the Great Other (Who in my opinion is Nyarlathotep) exists and the Old Gods most certainly exist they are the Weirwoods, the Faith of the Seven has no magic of any kind and thus that means there isn't really anything to back their faith up. With this in mind I think Rhaenys avoids being killed by the Scorpion due to Aegon not offending the Valyrian Gods and they continue to favor the Targaryens as to why he does this well Aegon did have Dragon Dreams and we'll just say he has dragon dreams of what will happen if he lets Oldtown stand and the Faith continue to exist and thus with those visions burns Oldtown to the ground for defiance of his conquest.
What does that say about Bran how much he wasn't talked about here. WHAT IF..... ....Myrcella survived being poisoned? .....Viserys didn't remarry anyone?
What if you don't give a F, and never watched, especially because the book (this bookworm hasn't read any of his tripe) is never going to be finished...
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Should do “what if Jaime and Cersei didn’t see Bran” that would be very interesting
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So basically everyone would have been better off if Bran just listened to his mom.
Catelyn may have done/said many (many, many many) stupid things, but ultimately all of her children ended up suffering because they didn’t listen to her advice in very specific instances.
If Robb had married the Frey girl like he was supposed to, he wouldn’t have been murdered. If Bran had stopped climbing, he wouldn’t have been crippled. If Arya had behaved herself around the royal family, she wouldn’t have ended up in Braavos. If Sansa had listened to her mother’s words (family, duty, honour) and sided with her family instead of Joffrey, she wouldn’t have gone through what she did and Lady would still be alive. Rickon is the exception because he’s about three and therefore not really a player in the game
Karen catelynn didn't listen to anyone else either. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree
until daenaeres comes in from slavers bay with a steel chair! (3 fire breathing dragons)
@@trevormarshall2817except that if Barristan doesn't get dismissed from the Kingsguard and then go seek her out, odds are good that she gets got by that dude who tries to assassinate her with a scorpion. "Arstan Whitebeard" is the one to save her; no one else moved swiftly enough. If Barristan is still in KL, then Dany never makes it out of that market.
17:00 Bran squires for Jamy & stumbles on the incest. Jamy kills him showing the futility of time travel.
*Jaime learn to spell.
This should’ve been a what if bran didn’t get caught spying on the lannisters. He could’ve witnessed them doing the dance of the dragons and escaped
Totally see Ned disagreeing and trying to stop the Assassins going after Dany, maybe warning Jorah. Arya will continue training with Syrio Forrel and maybe eventually he goes into Ned's service and ends up at Winterfell. The three- eyed raven may also go after Jojen to take his place, he has visions too.
What if Petyr didn't think to tell Catelyn the dagger was Tyrion's?
What if Bronn did volunteer to be Tyrion's? champion?
What if Renly accepted Stannis offer at Storm's End?
What if Jaime died at the whispering wood?
What if Ser Barristan weren't dismissed from the Kingsguard?
What if Catelyn did not leave the North and none of her bad decisions were made. She didn't tell Ned to trust Petyr, she never takes Tyrion prisoner, she never negotiates Robb marrying a Frey, she never releases Jaime. She just stays in the North.
Bronn doesn't become Tyrions Champion, Tyrion is sent through the moon door and I don't think the Vale actually gets to set out the War in this timeline. They'd be hard to invade but I imagine they'd be forced to actually side with the North and the Riverlands.
@@movieloverfan18she makes bad decisions but if she never negotiates with the Freys, Robb might not be able to cross at the Twins. He seemed intent on besieging them from what I remember in the books if Walder did not allow them to cross, which would fall into the Lannister trap.
Jon Snow being trained by Brynden Rivers is a very intriguing concept, especially if he can learn about his true parentage that way. Also, if Ned does survive and goes back North, he can have that conversation with Jon as well. Hmmmmm
What if Jamie retake his place as the heir of Casterly Rock
after he kills the king Aerys, by being dismise as a favor for Tywin Lannister
It's surprising that Robert didn't do that in first place, Jaime already proved that he was not trustworthy as a guard.
Had another idea in pop in my head, and this one actually makes a lotta sense. What if instead of lucerys going to Storms End, Rhaenyra sends Rhaenys to secure the Baratheon's loyalty. Since shes half Baratheon, I could see her having a better chance of swaying Borros to her side, or at least keeping him neutral. Then theres the whole Aemond problem, but I have no idea how that would play out.
Aemond would still beat Rhaenys in a fight. But I definitely see Rhaenys successfully escaping because Meleys is actually the fastest dragon.
@@KaiHung-wv3ulalso I think Aemond was motivated my spite and emotion, he wouldn’t have chased Rhaenys like he did Luke.
@@Natalie_11188 Good point.
Bran should still be the three eyed raven, Bloodraven was a warrior but still was a three eyed raven.
There would be no reason for him to do that. Why would he give up him dream or being a Knight, and how would a child convince his father to let him go out by himself to be the three eyed raven
Just for fun. What if Queen Rhaenys and Meraxes weren’t shot down in Dorne?
Dorne palace burns?
What if it was the other sister wife?
@@skeletonnoise6178 No Maegor since Maegor is a couple years younger than Aenys, and he was a toddler when his mother passed.
Wait a minute, Bloodraven would’ve reached out Jon which would’ve made it even more of a song of ice and fire because John would’ve been a Targaryen and taken on brand role as well?! So not only whatever character have been better and all the conflict have been avoided but season eight wouldn’t have been a disappointment too?!
@@mariedaparellio5686 Bloodraven in book cannon reached Jon multiple times. BUT he have completely different role to play for Jon so thats all just straight inaccurate with book cannon. As I wrote in other comment the person that would replace Bran would be Rickon who was already speculated to be the “one” and more powerful but Jojen choose Bran because the visions are hard to interpret.
Jon can't be the 3 eyed raven he's not a greenseer
19:45 well that’s inaccurate. Bloodraven wouldn’t go for Jon because he had different plans for Jon from the beginning. He would go for Rickon and it’s already speculated that Rickon was probably the “one” and more powerful than Bran but the visions are unclear that’s why Jojen decided that’s Bran.
What if Jaime Lannister & Lyanna Stark fell in love? And they ran away together?
How would the events change?
That would've been a video I would love to watch ❤❤❤❤😊
What if Brandon Snow had actually used the weirwood arrows and killed the Conquerors' dragons ? (but maybe not their riders or maybe even just one or two of the dragons) What would Westeros look like now ? Cause would the ones who bent the knee still be on the Targs side after that ? How would the Targs-Starks relationships have developed?
Regarding bronn:
iirc when tyrion arrives at the inn where he got captured in Canon, there is No free room, so he offers anyone WHO shares their room with him Money. Bronn is the one to Take the offer. I would guess that would be enough dor the two of them to Bond ans bronn, seeing more Money in the Future, trying to follow bronn. Beides that, tyrion would probably never meet shae.
3:10 Unless I am super mistaken, is it not confirmed that Joffrey was the one who sent the catspaw after he overheard Robert saying that Bran would be better off dead? I could've sworn that was canon.
It's not "confirmed", but it is heavily implied, and both Tyrion and Jaime thinks so.
The show kind of made the Starks more rustic than they where in the books. House Stark in the novels where not as wealthy as the Lannister's but they where a lot wealthier than the show.
First lets look at what they wear in the books which is nothing like there costumes in the show.
Side note Lord Rickard owned Steel armour and gold spurs.
When Arya is packing to go to Kings Landing she files where chest with silk and Sansa is fond of blue silk.
In Kings Landing Eddard looked nothing like what he did in the show, he always wore what he called his council silk. Ned also commissions a new uniform for his guards. Long cloaks of heavy grey wool decorated with white satin borders. Their cloaks are pinned with hands of beaten silver representing there Lords office as hand of the King. When he was on the Iron Throne Ned wore a white double embosomed with a grey dire wolf.
In Winterfell at the feast welcoming the King and Royal Family they all dressed grandly, including Benjen Stark. There are high born brothers in the Nights Witch from the north and south and I have never seen one dressed as well as Benjen at that feast, not even Lord Commander Mormont himself. He wears rich black velvet high black leather boots. His wide belt has a silver buckle and very heavy silver chain.
When Bran is attacked by Wildlings he is attacked for what he is wearing and he is second legitimate son and he is wearing a wolfs head broch of silver and jet. Jet is a gemstone and this is not a formal event this is just outriding in the woods.
Jon wears fine blacks and mole skin gloves which would not be cheap. At Winterfell harvest feast Bran is dressed quote, as befits a Prince and Robb wears a bronze crown and Catelyn describes her sons royal Kingly attire as quote magnificent.
Also Theon Greyjoy dressed very well when he was living with Stark in silk and Gold and Balon fears the Starks have made him soft. I doubt Greyjoy money was funding Theon's extravagant lifestyle. When he takes Winterfell he crowns himself Prince of Winterfell and orders and orders a new crown forged with black diamonds and chunks of gold. Where did he get the gold and diamonds if not from Winterfell's plundered treasury. And before Winterfell Bran and Luwin gave the Manderley's gold and build a royal fleet and mint coins.
At the Winterfell harvest feast
Now lets look at Winterfell it is much bigger and much grander than in the show this is a Castle built of granite which is an opulent martial.
Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres and encircled by two massive granite walls.
Remember the Castle is built over natural hot springs and as the wiki explains.
The water is piped through walls and chambers to heat them, making Winterfell more comfortable than other castles during the harsh northern winters.
Also from the wiki
Inside the walls, the complex is composed of dozens of courtyards and small open spaces. Weapons training and practice take place in those yards. The inner ward is a second, much older open space in the castle where archery practice takes place. It is located next to the broken tower. Inside Winterfell stands the inner castle, which contains the Great Keep and the Great Hall. Winterfell's towers and halls have diamond-shaped window panes.[6]
Inner Castle
The Great Keep is the innermost castle and stronghold of the castle complex. It was built over natural hot springs to keep it warm.[5] The Great Keep contains bedchambers for House Stark[5] as well as the solar of Lord Eddard Stark.[7] The building is connected to the armory by a covered bridge.[8] From a window on the covered bridge, one can see the entire yard.[9] Beneath the Great Keep are cellars with narrow windows.[10]
The Great Hall is used for receiving guests and the place where the household dines together, including the Lord of Winterfell. It is made of grey stone[11] and has wide doors made of oak and iron,[12] which opens to the castle yard, and a rear exit leads to a dimly-lit gallery.[12] Inside it can hold eight long rows of trestle tables, four to each side of the central aisle,[12] and the hall can seat five hundred people.[13] There is a raised platform for noble guests, and the walls are covered with banners.[11] The hall contains the high seat of the old Kings in the North. The seat's cold stone has been polished by the many lords who have sat upon it, and its massive arms are decorated with the carved heads of snarling direwolves.[14][15]
The small sept was built for Lady Catelyn Tully, a southron, by her husband, Lord Eddard.[16]
Courtyard and Other Buildings
The First Keep, a squat and round drum tower, is the oldest surviving part of the castle but is no longer in use. Around it lies a lichyard where the Kings of Winter would bury their loyal servants. The keep has gargoyles atop it.[17][6] Maester Kennet determined it was built after the Andals arrived.[18]
The broken tower, also known as the Burned Tower, was once the tallest watchtower in Winterfell. Over 140 years ago a lightning strike set it afire and the top third collapsed inward, but no one rebuilt it.[19][20] It stands behind the old inner ward. Crows nest atop the broken tower.[19]
The ancient godswood of Winterfell has stood untouched for ten thousand years, with three acres of old packed earth and close-together trees creating a dense canopy, which the castle was built around. At the center of the grove stands an ancient weirwood with a face carved into it, standing over a pool of black water.[16] Across the godswood from the heart tree, beneath the windows of the Guest House, an underground hot spring feeds three small pools, with a moss-covered wall looming above them. The godswood is enclosed by walls, and is accessed by a main iron gate, or smaller wooden ones.
The Glass Gardens[21] is a greenhouse heated by the hot springs, which turn it into a place of moist warmth.[5] It is used to grow fruits, vegetables, and flowers.[9][22] The garden has green and yellow glass panes[10] locked in frames.[8]
The crypt of Winterfell, located near the First Keep, is where members of House Stark are buried. The underground crypts are long and narrow, with pillars moving two by two along its length. Between pillars stand the sepulchers of the Starks of Winterfell, the likenesses of the dead seated on thrones, with iron swords set before them to keep the restless spirits from wandering, and snarling direwolves at their feet. The crypts are deep under the earth, cavernous and bigger than the complex above ground. They are accessed by a twisting stone stair and a huge ironwood door that lies at a slant to the floor. The stair continues below to older levels where the most ancient Kings in the North are entombed.[23][17][10]
The Bell Tower is connected to the rookery by a bridge. The bridge is covered and runs from the fourth floor of the tower to the second floor of the rookery.[6][8]
The maester's turret is below the rookery.[24]
The Library Tower houses the library at Winterfell. A stonework staircase winds about its exterior.[8]
The Guards Hall is in line with the Bell Tower, and further back, the First Keep.[6]
Winterfell has undercrofts and cellars.[25] The castle also has dungeons,[25] including tower cells.[26]
Walls
Winterfell is a huge castle complex spanning several acres, defended by two massive walls of grey granite with a wide moat between them.[4] The outer wall is eighty feet high, while the inner is one hundred feet high.[4] There are guard turrets on the outer wall and more than thirty watch turrets on the crenelated inner walls.
The great main gates[7] have a gatehouse made of two huge crenelated bulwarks which flank the arched gate[8] and a drawbridge that opens into the market square of the winter town.[27][28]
There is a narrow tunnel inside of the inner wall stretching halfway around the castle, allowing travel from the south gate all the way to the north gate without interruption.[19]
The Hunter's Gate is close to the kennels and the kitchens. It opens directly onto open fields and the wolfswood, so people can come and go without having to cross through the winter town. It is favored by hunting parties.[4]
The East Gate[10] or east gate[29] leads to the kingsroad.[10] The Kingsroad Gate[7] may be another name for the same gate.
The Battlements Gate is a small arched postern in the inner wall. It crosses the moat between the walls but does not have a passageway through the outer wall.[7]#
When Jon Snow becomes Lord Commander of the Nights Watch he considers building a glass building but thinks it will be costly and for such fine glass he would need to look Myr and by the freedom of a few glass makers.
We know Sansa loves lemon cakes and lemon trees do not grow naturally in the north importing lemon seeds to Winterfell from the reach or Doren would not be cheap. My guess would be the seeds came form Doren as one need only sail up the narrow sea than the up the White Knife.
Finally Maester Luwin has his own turret and mentions having servents of his own. The Starks top servants have servants
Not as wealthy as the Lannister but it clear Ned and Robb after him where unlike in the show 2 of the wealthiest man in the world.
Then imagine how rich the Tyrells are, considering they have all of the food, it seems the Isles are even more broke than some small lords in the Westerlands, like the Westerlings and Cleganes
I sometimes wonder what if Joffrey was just a decent person? Like not a good person or anything just not a brat
What if Rhaenyra took Gwayne Hightower as a Lover instead of Harwin Strong?
What if Lucerys lost his eye *instead* of Aemond?
What if both Lucerys & Aemond died in episode 10?
What if Aemma Arryn last child, Baelon was born a girl that married Aegon-II?
What if Viserys had Aegon II married Rhaenyra *After* Laenor’s death?
What if Rhaenyra was like Jaehaerys The Conciliator?
What if Rhaenyra Targaryen married Borros Baratheon?
What if Viserys-I made Rhaenyra Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
What if Viserys-I made Rhaenys Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
What if Viserys-I made Daemon Hand Of The King after Otto’s dismissed/Lyonel’s death?
What if Rhaenyra married Otto after Alicent married Viserys?
What if Aegon-III lived longer and made his Daughter Daena hair after the death of his sons?
What if Myrcella “Baratheon” married Robb Stark instead Joffrey & Sansa?
What if Jamie Lannister was at the Tower Of Joy instead of Gerold Hightower?
What if Rhaelle Baratheon, Robert, Stannis & Renly’s grandmother was still alive during Robert’s Rebellion?
Dude, just number them.
Besides the possibility of Bran squiring to Selmy, there's also Ser Loras Tyrell... which might have resulted in Bran learning about a different liaison.
I wonder if Ned (and Cat) had started looking into possible marriage matches for Arya and Bran. I suppose for Bran, Lyanna Mormont might have been an option. Jojen Reed would likely come up as a possible match for Arya. And then there's Theon that Ned has to deal with. On paper, Arya would make sense... but it's hard to see that one actually being realized.
Sir Loras is not on the KG at this time. He only joined the KG because Renly was dead and Margaery was Queen.
Cat would have opposed to Bran marrying Lyanna Mormont and Arya marrying Jojen, their families were among the poorest in the North
@@Hektols And also the Reeds and the Mormonts are super loyal already anyway, they wouldn't need to make those alliances. If anything, Cat will probably want to marry them off to southern houses, most likely from the Reach, or even the Westerlands but Ned might oppose the latter because he doesn't like Lannisters.
what happens if jamie tell nedd about the mad king
What if Rodrick Greyjoy survived the battle at sea guard
Great video! I have a suggestion if I can. What if Jon and Dany married?
Maybe you should use fan art
Bran would be closer to the isle of faces so perhaps he would be more like howleen reed
Disagree, I think the fact that he survived is directly linked to him being injured at the time. It also moved the plot and helped it. If he had been healthy, he would have been killed long ago
Still would have problems. Ned was already becoming aware of because of his investigation of John Arryn's murder. So if Bran didn't fall, he wouldn't be the raven and winter would come with a lot less notice so the whitewalkers would be able to cause a lot more damage.
how? most of bran's warnings went completely ignored. in the books im sure its important but in the show, he arguably only ever made things worse by going to the Raven
What if Rhaegar married lyanna instead of elia
Lyanna was like 12 when rhaenys was born, and probably 11 when they got married, so it wouldn't be that great. I dont even think rhaegar knew about lyanna then
@@officialredactor Lets assume that Rhaegar remained unmarried until he met Lyanna.
Vow of Celibacy not Chasity those are two entirely different things: the former is no sex at all, the latter is only during marriage, abstenance before marriage and faithfulness afterwards, these are two different things. Also anyone else think the vows of Celibacy in this setting are dumb I think they are due to the fact that they are largely ignored.
Also for a more interesting scenario what if Aegon never converted to the Faith of the Seven and burned Oldtown, also what if this scenario Rhaenys never died to a fluke incident because I honestly think that was the Valyrian gods lashing out for apostasy, the Seven don't exist but the Valyrian Gods likely due because of the fact Valyrian magic exists, Magic has a source and it by and large it tends to be tied to external factors like deities I mean the Drowned Men are evidence enough that the Drowned God exists in my opinion and the magic of the Red Priests is proof that the Red God also exists and well the White Walkers existing in the books at least means the Great Other (Who in my opinion is Nyarlathotep) exists and the Old Gods most certainly exist they are the Weirwoods, the Faith of the Seven has no magic of any kind and thus that means there isn't really anything to back their faith up. With this in mind I think Rhaenys avoids being killed by the Scorpion due to Aegon not offending the Valyrian Gods and they continue to favor the Targaryens as to why he does this well Aegon did have Dragon Dreams and we'll just say he has dragon dreams of what will happen if he lets Oldtown stand and the Faith continue to exist and thus with those visions burns Oldtown to the ground for defiance of his conquest.
What if daemon and caraxes lived what if young griff and dany married what if the tragedy at summer hall never happened
What if aemond got sent to the wall for burning aegon or otherwise punished when Otto comes back
What if Robert didn’t send everyone out of the room when he named Ned his “heir” until Joffrey comes of age????
Then we would have gotten an actual good ending, probably
So we are talking about 2 season worth of the show
Would it not simply delay?
Theres still Lysa's letter and Jon Arryns last words.
The most important factor is probably Bran going south and Catelyn NOT going south.
@@KaiHung-wv3ul For Little Finger to kite him into seeing the incest anyway? 😏
What if Catelyn died protecting Bran from assasin ?
What does that say about Bran how much he wasn't talked about here.
WHAT IF.....
....Myrcella survived being poisoned?
.....Viserys didn't remarry anyone?
What if Ned told Caitlyn about the truth of Jon Snow's parents?
Part 2?
What if the Dragonseeds didnt rebel.
What if Visenya and Vhagar got shot down over dorne?
Please: What if Lyanna and Jaime got married (after Lyanna pleading to have the engagement with Robert annullued due to forseeing his infidelity)?
What if you don't give a F, and never watched, especially because the book (this bookworm hasn't read any of his tripe) is never going to be finished...