First off, YES! REIGN OF CHAOS RETURNS!!!! Second off, Dave chose the best shirt to record this episode with, because this video came out just in time for the Lunar New Year. Happy Year of the Rooster!
Challenge for Reign of Chaos; build each other a list, the idea is to make it as comically, hopelessly bad as possible... The rules are; Traitor Legions only, no allies, you must be Battle Forged, useless upgrades are 100% allowed, 1500 pts limit, try to use that legion's detachment, forget the fluff, have fun, what happens on the battle field stays on the battle field... If you were doing this with loyalist scum, Vanguard Veterans with 2 Thunder Hammers and no jump pack (hint, hint, future batrep)...
I'm glad MWG hired Josh. He's got a great attitude towards the game and does a good job to get his rules right. I've enjoyed every batrep that he's been in. Keep it up dude!
Awesome!!!Dave!! i'm glad you're playing more maelstorm missions :) at 59:20 you actually draw the 15 objective from emperor's children table,not objective 5...but still good game!!!
Felipe Caldeira True! But I think 6x min squads of 5 noise marines , fully tooled up with 1x Blastmaster, 1x Doom siren and 3x sonics = 149 each...its 894 points, for a 1500 game, gives you enough points for a lord on bike, some bikers and put the icon of excess with them! Plus some rhinos , would have made a more dangerious army! Strength 9 blastmasters will pop enemy Rhinos and enemy marines with ease!
so, have i missed some announcement or something, or has the Traitor Legions book been sold out for quite a while now? Every store in 100 miles doesn't have it and I cant find anything from a search about it being restocked or anything.
what was that leadership thing for driving through his guys? from what I saw in the rules tank shock, which is what you did, they move out of the way, or they can do death or glory where one does a leadership I believe and tries to attack it. if he fails only that one dies. if he passes wound like normal.
Fun match to watch! I have a question though: why didn't you roll for leadership-tests due to Fear as per Night Lords legion rules? Did all Emperor's Children units have Fearless?
To answer my own question, Emperor's Children get Fearless from Veterans of the Long War special rule. I was thrown off by Dave actually stating it once explicitly.
Nice video, would have loved to see a measurement on that last scatter. It appeared dangerously close to the Warp Talons and that would have been hilarious.
love the reports but i really wish you zoomed out to see the battle field more often so we can keep track of where the other units are in relation to the current action.
I would like to see more of Ultra marines and NIght Lords. as i am going to field them in 30K and i'd like to see how they play. (I play ultras and Grey Knights in 40K)
Question, where are all of these games played? I really want to stop by at the store/location to play a game or two, but don't have any idea where it is.
Idea for topic for this show: res corsairs. They and the crimson slaughter were the only renegade chapters that you could play as previously, but now everything has its own rules except for red Corsairs and if you want to use the rules from the traitor legions book that fit them then you can't use Huron. Maybe do an episode focused on fluffy tactics or work around?
I've been wanting to pick up wh40k and been watching your channel for weeks. Have you played the red corsairs yet? And would they be a good starter army? I know they're a csm. Any feedback would be hugely helpful thank you guys and keep up the awesome diy how to's and batreps!
Yeah you know what i mean, something interesting and different. Why no daemon hunting pack, heldrake terror sqaud, etc. If one of them takes the boring minimum 1 spawn the other player shouldn't Dave gets props for his EC army making use of it's unique core with the noise marines, but then it's Night lords and Josh didn't even take the Raptor talon, the signature core of the NL and an awesome formation to boot. i understand if they don't own raptors, but i'm sure MWG has tons of models at it's disposal
Ishfar Jashim I think he had 6 units ...just 1 was in the back of the battle feilds not doing much, the other was unupgraded and the other unit hid in it Rhinos all battle!
I want to see Chaos fighting non-Chaos armies for a change. I want to see what the new Chaos armies can do. It is not a very clear representation of the power that the new Chaos has when they only fight each other. Good Video, but switch up the opponents every now and then.
They don't need to be 'power gamers' to play the one weapon that makes Noise Marines better than normal CSM's. 6 Units of 5 Noise Marines with Blastmaster & Sonic blasters is cheaper than units of 8 & 6 Noisemarines with the Flamer & Power Swords. Strip the Flamer & the Sword & you get the Blastmaster for free..
Shit, you're right i always thought they had it. Must have been the old dex i was thinking of,unless i've gone mad completely, thanks for correcting me.
Whilst I understand it from a gameplay point of view, it kind of annoys me from a fluff viewpoint seeing any Daemons really, but especially a Daemon Prince as Warlord, of a Night Lord's army. It just seems like putting an Archon in charge of a Craftworlder army. It just doesn't sit right.
I know what you mean, but after ready the Night Lords Trilogy I have to say I can accept it. they may not like it in general, but some Night Lords still seem to embrace it or acept the change.
Dave is playing "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD", wait he is Slaanesh??? Khorne is not pleased with Dave.......Nice battle guys and nice armies though watching Dave playing Slaanesh is...odd.
No not really. It still costs about 300p or so and Daves list wasn't good at all. Having not a single AP2 weapon in your whole list is stupid and he deserved to have such a hard time with the Daemon Prince
saschapanzer Even so, a re-rollable 2+ save is ridiculous, especially since it can also has a 2+ dodge with jink, which doesn't effect melee, which is what he mainly did.
It sure is but always keep in mind that these days we have a lot more AP1-2 weapons around than in the past. He would easily get wrecked by any dedicated anti-TEQ unit unless he flies or hides. Grav and Plasma are real threats to him. And again. He costs friggin 300p. You could get almost two Heldrakes or a Knight for that instead. 2+ re-rollable is only really ridiculous if the enemy has no AP1-2 weapons in his list or if there is some other means to save him as well like a 4++ (or better) or an additional FnP.
K Gallagher I think Nightlords are slightly psychic and live in the eye or Terror...so becoming mutated by chaos and becoming deamon princes, kinda justs happens..eg: Winning a challenge and rolling a 6 and a 5-6 ...so even just being a badass could make you a deamon princes.
Aww, for a second I thought that Noise Marine's name was Nugget, and that was adorkable!
First off, YES! REIGN OF CHAOS RETURNS!!!!
Second off, Dave chose the best shirt to record this episode with, because this video came out just in time for the Lunar New Year. Happy Year of the Rooster!
I think that is the first time in the two years I've been playing this game that I see a tank shock actually doing something :D
Sometimes it completely dominates games, a lot of the time people do not think to do it, at the times it would be really effective.
Challenge for Reign of Chaos; build each other a list, the idea is to make it as comically, hopelessly bad as possible... The rules are; Traitor Legions only, no allies, you must be Battle Forged, useless upgrades are 100% allowed, 1500 pts limit, try to use that legion's detachment, forget the fluff, have fun, what happens on the battle field stays on the battle field... If you were doing this with loyalist scum, Vanguard Veterans with 2 Thunder Hammers and no jump pack (hint, hint, future batrep)...
I'm glad MWG hired Josh. He's got a great attitude towards the game and does a good job to get his rules right. I've enjoyed every batrep that he's been in. Keep it up dude!
Have you ever tried chaos Hellblade flyer Dave ?
If I remember right the rulebook says flying monstrous creatures have the jink special rule. They do not need to be swooping in order to jink.
"They're Night Lords, they don't get anything cool!"
HAHAHAHA
I really enjoyed your commentary style on this one guys. chilled and informative. I won't criticise your wackier ones but this was great. top stuff.
Awesome!!!Dave!! i'm glad you're playing more maelstorm missions :) at 59:20 you actually draw the 15 objective from emperor's children table,not objective 5...but still good game!!!
Good to see a Emperor children army in a game...But they needed more Blastmasters and Doom sirens!
He had 5 Doom Sirens
Felipe Caldeira True! But I think 6x min squads of 5 noise marines , fully tooled up with 1x Blastmaster, 1x Doom siren and 3x sonics = 149 each...its 894 points, for a 1500 game, gives you enough points for a lord on bike, some bikers and put the icon of excess with them! Plus some rhinos , would have made a more dangerious army! Strength 9 blastmasters will pop enemy Rhinos and enemy marines with ease!
so, have i missed some announcement or something, or has the Traitor Legions book been sold out for quite a while now? Every store in 100 miles doesn't have it and I cant find anything from a search about it being restocked or anything.
Man, josh is just kind of a likeable guy
Who paid you to say this?
Nobody, can't I just think a person is a good person? It's what I personally think
Oh this is Josh, I was just joking but thx dude!
No prob
what was that leadership thing for driving through his guys? from what I saw in the rules tank shock, which is what you did, they move out of the way, or they can do death or glory where one does a leadership I believe and tries to attack it. if he fails only that one dies. if he passes wound like normal.
Fun match to watch! I have a question though: why didn't you roll for leadership-tests due to Fear as per Night Lords legion rules? Did all Emperor's Children units have Fearless?
To answer my own question, Emperor's Children get Fearless from Veterans of the Long War special rule. I was thrown off by Dave actually stating it once explicitly.
Nice video, would have loved to see a measurement on that last scatter. It appeared dangerously close to the Warp Talons and that would have been hilarious.
love the reports but i really wish you zoomed out to see the battle field more often so we can keep track of where the other units are in relation to the current action.
More Emperor's children for sure. Also you should totally do a Path to Glory with the new Legion Rules for extra win.
Word Bearers, cultist core with possessed auxilary and a bunch of summoning sorcerers as command choices!
Alcatrazz13 warhammer 40k demonTide?
yapp =D
Josh is fast becoming my favourite mwg member. And not just because he's a fellow night lord player 😁
Ave Dominus Nox Brother! :P
Death to the false Emperor!
Wasn't Josh supposed to roll on the chaos boon table twice when he won the challenge with the warp talons?
Yes I forgot all about that
Chaos reigns! I would like to see an Iron Warriors tactics.
Hey Dave try the new world Eaters in a new list
I would like to see more of Ultra marines and NIght Lords. as i am going to field them in 30K and i'd like to see how they play. (I play ultras and Grey Knights in 40K)
Question, where are all of these games played? I really want to stop by at the store/location to play a game or two, but don't have any idea where it is.
on the website they have a challenge section with all the info
www.miniwargaming.com/challenge
when a tank moves flat out should it not trigger a dangerous terrain test
Idea for topic for this show: res corsairs. They and the crimson slaughter were the only renegade chapters that you could play as previously, but now everything has its own rules except for red Corsairs and if you want to use the rules from the traitor legions book that fit them then you can't use Huron. Maybe do an episode focused on fluffy tactics or work around?
I would love to see how well Iron Warriors and Death Guard work together.
Thousands sons please!
Wow i was just watching reign of chaos from 2 years ago and you post new one :)
I've been wanting to pick up wh40k and been watching your channel for weeks. Have you played the red corsairs yet? And would they be a good starter army? I know they're a csm. Any feedback would be hugely helpful thank you guys and keep up the awesome diy how to's and batreps!
Josh Campos crimson slaughter is a possessed army and not really good for newbs its what I am doing.
Hey Dave, I am all about the World Eaters and Angron. Please do a video about the Worldeaters.
Something to do with the Thousand Sons would be awesome!
Why does no one take any auxiliary's and why just one little spawn? i'd love to see Iron warriors with the daemon engine pack
Spawn is an auxiliary
Yeah you know what i mean, something interesting and different. Why no daemon hunting pack, heldrake terror sqaud, etc. If one of them takes the boring minimum 1 spawn the other player shouldn't
Dave gets props for his EC army making use of it's unique core with the noise marines, but then it's Night lords and Josh didn't even take the Raptor talon, the signature core of the NL and an awesome formation to boot. i understand if they don't own raptors, but i'm sure MWG has tons of models at it's disposal
krilc josh used the raptors when he played vs Matt recently
Dave you should play death guard against quirk
Why no Blastmasters?
have a missed something how come the whole noise marine squad can shoot out of the rhino. don't they only.have 2 fire points?
He only fired with 2 models while inside the Rhino. Each one fires 3 shots, though
how is the chaos lord hitting the prince on 3 plus isnt the prince WS9?
Thousand Sons/Alpha Legion vs. World Eaters/Word Bearers.
Can you play with some skitarii
why is there a plunger just sticking out of the wall?
darknight 912 cuss orks
man, I would love to see some stuff for renegades and heretics. IA13 and SoV both
You dudes need to name two of the noise marines in the Kakophoni formation Marty and Jason
Ishfar Jashim I think he had 6 units ...just 1 was in the back of the battle feilds not doing much, the other was unupgraded and the other unit hid in it Rhinos all battle!
Why is the demon prince rerolling his armor save?
Silly Dave, your Noise Marines have Splitfire as well. Could have shot the Warp Talons with the Doom Siren and charge the other unit still. :D
Do World Eaters vs Emperor's Children. Or World Eaters vs Death Guard.
THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLAANESH!
THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW
BZZZZZWUBWUBWUBWUBBZZZZZZZZ
AMPLIFY!
HumanoidCableDreads
I want to see Chaos fighting non-Chaos armies for a change. I want to see what the new Chaos armies can do. It is not a very clear representation of the power that the new Chaos has when they only fight each other. Good Video, but switch up the opponents every now and then.
dunno if this is the right spot ...but my wife would like too see 30k death guard vs someone if at all possible.
You can always email josh@miniwargaming.com I have a few buddies with 30K DG armies but no luck with scheduling a game as of yet.
No Blastmaster? Right - let's ignore one of the best weapons in the game.
They're not power gamers...
Shari K. Blast masters are pretty great.
Probably down to points so he can field 6 units of Noise Marines for +1 Strength Shredding Sonic Blasters!
They don't need to be 'power gamers' to play the one weapon that makes Noise Marines better than normal CSM's. 6 Units of 5 Noise Marines with Blastmaster & Sonic blasters is cheaper than units of 8 & 6 Noisemarines with the Flamer & Power Swords. Strip the Flamer & the Sword & you get the Blastmaster for free..
good point
hmmm I would love to see more of the new tzeentch
Order trough Terror! The Lesson of Konrad Kurze!
Poor Billy the Chaos Spawn. Nobody remembers him :(
THIS SILENCE OFFENDS SLAANESH! THINGS SHALL GET LOUD NOW!!
u said reigns of chaos.... will that just be 40k?
wish you read your rules about cover
Comment bookmark 40:40
World Eaters? Please?
do world eaters
Dave NURGAL!
Man, I really like both of these armies. But I REALLY hate cheese, so I'll be rooting for Emperor's Children on this one.
Michael Layman cheese is great m8
WAIT TERMINATORS GET AN 5 plus invulnerable save!
Man. That demon prince is sick.
I thought playing night lords meant you couldn't take any marks of chaos
for a second i thought this was gonna be a path to glory :(
Not the best showing for the EC but then the list wasn''t that imaginative. I just wish I could get more games...
play death guards
Id mainly like to see something else than chaos.
I need either World Eaters or...if the heavens are willing...ANGRY MARINES! Need the rage!
21:00 Dave spawn are daemons and so have a 5+ invulnerable.
no
They do Kimmo, spawn have the daemon special rule, and in the big rule book on pg 163 says that they have 5+ invulnerable and the fear special rule.
They are not daemons.. just checked the CSM codex
Shit, you're right i always thought they had it. Must have been the old dex i was thinking of,unless i've gone mad completely, thanks for correcting me.
Whilst I understand it from a gameplay point of view, it kind of annoys me from a fluff viewpoint seeing any Daemons really, but especially a Daemon Prince as Warlord, of a Night Lord's army. It just seems like putting an Archon in charge of a Craftworlder army. It just doesn't sit right.
I know what you mean, but after ready the Night Lords Trilogy I have to say I can accept it. they may not like it in general, but some Night Lords still seem to embrace it or acept the change.
Yay return of the apple of Khorne!
All the Deathguard!
Spoiler: Dave won!!!! With points!!!! Which I feel wasn't that impressive since it was mostly Rhinos doing the hard work.
Grounding test on that prince after the perils! He might have one day died!
He was gliding. Also, the grounding test is at S9, so no way to outright die from falling
Indeed
its a +3 feel no pain FNP stack
No, it does not.
FAQ angles of death
World Eaters vs Death Guard
Ave Dominus nox
Dave is playing "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD", wait he is Slaanesh??? Khorne is not pleased with Dave.......Nice battle guys and nice armies though watching Dave playing Slaanesh is...odd.
HEAR THE SONG OF SLAANESH
warp talon can deep strike
HERESY!!!!!!!!
Apple of Khorne ftw
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!
Thousand Sons!!!!!!!
WORLD EATERS!
Thousand Sons
Not enougth blood for Khorne
That Daemon Prince needs to be nerfed.....
No not really. It still costs about 300p or so and Daves list wasn't good at all. Having not a single AP2 weapon in your whole list is stupid and he deserved to have such a hard time with the Daemon Prince
saschapanzer Even so, a re-rollable 2+ save is ridiculous, especially since it can also has a 2+ dodge with jink, which doesn't effect melee, which is what he mainly did.
It sure is but always keep in mind that these days we have a lot more AP1-2 weapons around than in the past. He would easily get wrecked by any dedicated anti-TEQ unit unless he flies or hides. Grav and Plasma are real threats to him. And again. He costs friggin 300p. You could get almost two Heldrakes or a Knight for that instead.
2+ re-rollable is only really ridiculous if the enemy has no AP1-2 weapons in his list or if there is some other means to save him as well like a 4++ (or better) or an additional FnP.
Josh stop bringing the cheesy demon prince josh
NIGHT LORDS NIGHT LORDS NIGHT LORDS NIGHT LORDS
That daemon prince is gross. Since when did night lords worship tzeench anyway
K Gallagher Night Lords are mostly Undivided, but I'm sure at least some of them have a personal favorite god.
Daemon Princes must take a "Daemon of..." option
K Gallagher Any chaos mark "counts as" the mark of Shadows and Fear for Nightlord deamon princes!
Oh I don't have a problem with it, it's just everything I've read of the Night Lords has them viewing those who worship the gods with contempt.
K Gallagher I think Nightlords are slightly psychic and live in the eye or Terror...so becoming mutated by chaos and becoming deamon princes, kinda justs happens..eg: Winning a challenge and rolling a 6 and a 5-6 ...so even just being a badass could make you a deamon princes.
Leave crabhands Billy alone!!!
G
EC's Spawn should be called Nippy
world eaters are the best
wtf is this?
2+ with re roll is boring