It's so silly, if xqcs message was to be taken so uncharitably why do we not give the same lens to the tweet by hasanabi? that gave the impression of a careless friend who abandons his duties to gamble, and he said he gave a lot of cop outs and qualifiers but if he could ignore everything about that in his own statement, then the same should be applied to his.
@@yhhkj529 what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
To be fair he looked really strong at the start. It seemed to me like the tides didn't start turning until Destiny gave x some ammo in the form of the clip, then later more reinforcements came to seal the deal. It was a total L for Lasan in the end though.
Hasan pushed Destiny against the wall, sneering, "I hate you." Destiny scoffed. "I hate you too." His eyes glanced down to Hasan's lips, and Hasan smirked. "Like what you see?" Destiny flushed, twisting his head. "As if."
D: "HASAN, I have Repeatedly asked you Not to call me 'Woman'!" H: "I'm sorry, Ms. Destiny" D: "Thank you" H: "My street slang is an increasingly valid form of expression. Most of the feminine pronouns do have mocking, but not necessarily in misogynistic undertones"
@@zamokuhlethusi2964 To be fair xqc English is kinda weird and he doesn't know how to explain his thoughts. He says things in a weird way and too fast and sometimes it just doesn't make much sense.
@@zamokuhlethusi2964 i mean doesn't his honesty just make him a human being?? its normal to be afraid of death. basing his entire personality off a TATE HYPOTHETICAL is the most pathetic reasoning i've ever heard. at least pick something else to dislike him for
The fact that Destiny can effortlessly provide arguments to completely destroy Hasan even turning the debate 180 degrees against him is so fucking insane
Hasan went from the top of the mountain during this debate to a filthy peasant asking for handouts by the end. This was an Atlanta Falcons level type of choke
I love how xQc is "crazy", "disgusting", etc but when Adrianah says the same thing about it sounding dismissive Hasan acts like a 6 year old afraid of getting grounded.
Fuck hasan, but xqc is definitely the more unhinged person. And he doesn’t really Have a moral high ground to stand on over hasan when he lets his greed win over his moral belief. To say it’s morally wrong but gamble on stream anyways makes me atleast as morally in the wrong as anything hasan has said or more so I’m the short term
@@stuff4812 Hasan doesn’t have a moral high ground to stand on either. Saying it’s wrong to use slurs against people except for the ones he likes to use against people he doesn’t like.
@@austinshoemaker1553 oh i know hasan doesnt have much ground to stand on, i dislike hasan way more. i was just responding to this guy seemingly acting like xqc is a reasonable person. hes very unstable with unreasonable anger at times with sketchy morals. he may be in the right by standing behind adrianna but he isnt some moral person.
@@stuff4812 Well, if you want the right position on this Adriana and gambling situation, you should probably look for the destiny, trainswrecks and devon nash video. It puts into perspective Poki, Ethan and Hasan's hypocritical position on luck based gambling being banned, but sportsbetting being fine.
Streamer watching another streamer watch another streamer talk about drama and eventually gets into a live streamed debate of multiple other streamers talk about drama. I love it.
XQC needs someone like Destiny, Hasan is the biggest weasel. The only reason he chose to even talk to X is bcs he thinks he is confident enough to win the entire thing.
I love how Hasan was like yeah calling someone a gusano is like calling someone a snake. Well then just call them a snake? Youre only calling them a gusano to add their ethnic background to the insult
This was one of the greatest streams in a long time. I can't believe that destiny managed to get a rage moment out of Hasan through text and being read out by XQC.
what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
Bro pokimane has literally used the N word on stream while playing league lmao yet she's like the golden girl of twitch and PR and political correctness. Her excuse was she grew up in Toronto and everyone talks like that lmao. As a strong black woman the only streamer that should be allowed to use this horrible word is our streamer Destiny.
I'm about to give you a really hot take. The internet should go back to the days between 2000 and 2010, when everyone engaged in constant, unrestrained bullying of one another and when using racial slurs was not taken seriously. In the long run, I believe this total unrestrained would be far better for online discourse and the online world than the current politically correct fake ass bullshit that everyone is trying to uphold. Give me back the previous era of the internet, when you could tell someone to kys, and people would wave their hands as if it was nothing. Total freedom of speech combined with almost no interference from large corporations unironically results in an internet world that is much more peaceful and enjoyable to be a part of.
Destiny got exiled from twitch and is now slowly watching it burn it’s like Nero and Rome. His influence still is wide spread throughout the entire platform but he’s completely separate from it it’s fucking hilarious.
Destiny's channel is the best place to gremlin lurk on internet drama and laugh guilt free, every other communities shame you into taking sides and whereas destiny understands the entertainment value in just flat out drama.
wish xqc understood and spoke english better. I see where the convo dips and it’s when he uses metaphors that help him understand but confuse others. When he said the thing about heavier rocks and scales instead of saying “this tips the scale” it threw the others off. Hasan doesn’t try to understand him and he talks forever and interrupts xqc a lot so it muddies the convo even more. It’s pretty obvious when someone doesn’t interact with bilingual people because they do dumb shit like this and derail the convo.
yeah. hasan was using steven crowder tactics when talking to xqc, just repeating yelling over him trying to big bro him and dominate the conversation. really gross.
why is Destiny the only streamer who doesnt jump around and avoid the issue. it seems like hasan and even xqc sometimes just argue without actually saying anything
I think the main reason is that it’s actually pretty hard to do. Destiny is exceptionally well spoken and logical. Typically people crumble under the pressure of needing to respond and lose the conversations objective/logical strand and it just devolves into people grasping at whatever surface level things come to mind. Destiny can juggle all the arguments and still keep it focused on the essentials.
When most people get into a heated debate, emotions flare up from confrontation. To make rational points, you have to internally manage the emotional blockage. To be successful in delivering your rational points, you need to respond quickly and understandably. It's SUPER HARD to do this without either being a little autistic/sociopathic or having very rigid and deeply explored core principles. Destiny probably has both of these things going for him plus years and years of experience of actively seeking out this kind of conflict. Basically every other streamer has no deeply understood value system that they can draw from naturally in debate. Most of them like xQc end up self-destructing at the emotional step and finish the debate feeling like they just couldn't say what they meant to. I hate the fucks in the online debatosphere as much as the next DGGer but I think we should make sure to not assume these streamers are being "weasily" or "avoiding the issue" out of malice. We're just accustomed to listening to the only person here that's actually equipped to have reasonable conversation about difficult topics.
@@Zetsuuga This is why Destiny does this thing where he calms himself before he explodes its so cool. Sneako makes fun of him for it but doesn't know its a god tier tactic
It took Hasan 3 hours and for the victim to come on to appologize which further proved X's point. Someone just needs to teach X how to talk lmfao and in a calm manner where it doesnt escalatae to screaming cuz logically he was right. Like Train said its not always about the intentions of a streamer its about the effect that it has. It took Poki like 5 mins to come on and appologize multiple times and still explain her reasoning in a decent way regardless of her PR voice or not. I still respect that ngl. Im glad I was able to watch this cuz it clarified a lot of the situation on both sides.
Hasan is allergic to apologizing. I think he's got PTSD from apologising. He did the same thing with the JayExci situation. Situation: Hasan watched Jay's 45 minute video and left to make chicken nuggies for himself while Jays video played. He spoke for about 4 out of the 45 minutes and never paused the video. He kept the title and channel name hidden for the entirety of the video except the brief moments that his cursor moved over the video. At the last 3 minutes Jay was advertising his channel and suggesting other videos and as soon as Jay did this Hasan lightspeed closed the tab and started watching another video. Jay found out and said don't just watch my videos without adding anything to them or if you do please just give me credit and suggest that if your viewers liked the video they can go the channel name. Option 1: Hasan can apologise and say in the future he won't watch the videos or if he does he will make sure to advertise the channel content at the end. Option 2: Hasan can say he won't watch any videos then if the creator is too stupid to understand that him watching their entire video and not giving any credit is actually great exposure. Then after Jay makes a video explaining the entire situation and suggesting what Hasan can do, Hasan will call him a Nazi live on stream to thousands of people. Take a guess which option our racist dude-bro picked.
what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
Yeah but isn't Destiny helping out the infamous gamba-peddling scumbag xQc? As much of a goober as Hasan is, he's still in the right on this topic: X and Train roped him into this for no reason and both hate him for the single reason that he's against gambling - i.e. their only true love.
It’s so funny that the first couples hours I just kept thinking hasan could’ve just said “yea, I see where you’re coming from and I’ll try not to jump to conclusions next time” and when poke came in she just did exactly that destiny gave her kudos. I think it’s so clear that these guys are SO scared to misstep and admit to it, at least typically
Yeah.. I've also been noticing a lot of "sorry if it seemed like..." or "I'm sorry if you felt..." type apologies, where it feels like they're completely dodging responsibility
@@deadzoneternity okay sure. But I typed up this comment before the end like half hour where Hasan tried pulling people to make xQc look bad, and everything came crashing down and he finally started changing his tune. That looked exponentially worse than what I said. It might’ve gone completely differently as xQc maybe wouldn’t have popped off, Destiny maybe wouldn’t have felt a need to jump in, Hasan wouldn’t have brought in people to try to own xQc, etc.
@@mialia15104 at times I kinda see where he’s coming from, it’s a passing comment in like a 40 second clip. I know destiny was sure it was maliciously dodged, and maybe it was, but I thought it was more him and xQc just straight up talking past each other unfortunately
“Xqc was looking a little rough, pretty antsy and nervous in the first half. I’m not sure what coach bonnell told him in the locker room, but boy has he come out ready to play in the third.”
Hasan weighing in on SA allegations to his tens of thousands of viewers is a really awful thing to do. "Hey, im just going to take strong stances on SA allegations i know nothing about"
honestly crazy, I don't understand how "I was just going off of what chat was saying and trying to piece together information" is ever an acceptable defense or apology. It shouldn't be, "I'm sorry I was confused," it's "I'm sorry I take this subject matter so frivolously I was willing to operate off of chat."
and he kept repeating literally hundreds of times throughout the conversation “i didn’t know what was going on.” completely irrelevant every single time he repeated the phrase. so frustrating
Destiny showing how Hasan could easily pretty much get himself out of the heat and making himself look better opened my eyes to lots of things within minutes of thinking lmao. The language you can use to manipulate the flow of a conversation within just a few sentences is simply crazy
Correct. Now, the trick is to recognize when the master himself, Destiny, is doing it. None of these streamers care about this girl or are genuine, including destiny. We can see Destiny farming and having a blast over this situation. He is great at manipulating words and creating narratives, which is why he’s a great debater and always wins rhetorically.
@@mrmr2488 Yes, but Destiny holds himself accountable to the beliefs he has, and part of those beliefs is that justice is important. So while the victim here might not personally matter to Destiny, principally, it's still important for that situation to be resolved. Farming drama, and helping x get Lasan angry, is very muxh appreciated on my end xD.
@@RS-fy9hb lol. Destiny certainly claims to do that but that’s not true. He was LOL’ing out of his mind when that girl was crying about her experience because of how bad it make Hassan look. Don’t fall for his silly rhetoric. He can and will roll around in the mud with the rest of them for his career, 100%, which is FINE imo. The problem is that he does pretend to hold himself to a high standard and that’s just all talk on stream to come across as an honest person.
@@mrmr2488 Does he hold himself to a high standard though? Does he say he is above others and holds himself to a higher standard than others? Or is that just us commentators putting him somewhat on a pedestal and glamorizing him unintentionally? I'm genuinely asking, I don't have much skin in the game. I just recently started rewatching destiny's content and know nothing about all this drama and who you say Destiny purports himself to be.
The whole debate was a headfuck to watch i was routing for x from the start of all this but by the end i kinda hate all of them except train hes kinda cool
I don’t think I’ve laughed and smiled at a destiny video this much before. You can see and hear the pure joy he’s having over Lasans rage. *Inserts destiny is a girls name joke here*
what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
Never in a billion years did I expect xQc to be the winner in an argument against a full-time debater ( even if said debater is terrible at it ). Dude had to bring in Ludwig and Poki to even stand a chance, great job on Steven Bonnel II for supporting a man in need. Daliban zindabad !
I had a black Cuban roommate in college and Destiny’s take on “ask people who are from there” 100% true. He grew up here mostly but his parents spent most of their lives there and he was like “Yeah it’s horrific; they ate burnt chunks of towels just to keep from starving completely” I know even Castro had his points and moments but he’s not some heroic liberator just because he wasn’t pure evil. Edit: also I’ve never seen a Hasan clip where he’s ever been as genuinely unhinged/angry as he is at 1:40:33
Destiny’s problem in this whole drama is his inability to recognize the opinion of the other side. he has good rebuttals for some things, but can’t accept that he has a woman’s name
New secret win tactic for destiny: Whenever you want Hasan to win an argument, dm him the exact winning strategy as if you're trying to help him out. He then cannot use the strategy cause you take credit for the W and if he doesn't use it, he's using a sub optimal one making him more likely to lose. We do a little trolling.
Oh my god Train and X are like the ultimate combo we got a master of small picture and a master of big picture watching Train see the same thing Destiny saw, X about to derail HARD, then watching Train adjust the rails to avoid it, sealed the deal for me
I watched most of this live, and it was glorious. xQc is smart, but he’s just not consistently great at articulating his points. And I think the language barrier and his speech impediment also can sometimes hurt him in arguments/debates. That said, once Destiny started essentially proxy debating for him, and then Hasan started getting so fkn mad, that was the best content, I was dying. All xQc needed was a little help, and he started to turn it around so hard and fast that it began making Hasan mald. Then, when Adrianah and Train entered, Hasan pretty much HAD to sit there silently and just take all the hits. Which made it EVEN better. Yeah, this was hilarious and entertaining. NOT because of what it was based around, but finally seeing the big steamer clique full of these insanely privileged narcissistic scumbags crumble a bit was incredibly satisfying. Been a long time coming ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*Consistently* great?! he's not great AT ALL, he is AWFUL at articulating his points, was the same with with his previous debates, it feels like he's ignores/doesn't see the obvious points and gets led off on tangents and taken for a ride while he gets increasingly mad and unhinged. Meanwhile Train just comes in and says what X should have said hours ago edit: not to mention he says things in a disjointed rambly way that leaves loads of holes for people who want to disbelieve or aren't listening in good faith, Awful
The clique didn't crumble - Destiny literally helped xQc, the biggest one of them all, cement himself further. When what he needed was to be brought down a peg, all Destiny did was inflate his ego even more.
That was super disappointing to listen too. He keeps taking full advantage of xqc's inability to articulate certain ideas because he's bilingual, and then even uses that to miscontrue his points sometimes when he gets backed into a corner
@@shadowgame0630 I don't know if it's Xqc being ESL as the reason for not being articulate. Hasan is ESL too and we took the piss when he tried to use it as an excuse
@@MrKiingpin yeah but XQC clearly doesn’t have as good of a grasp on the English language as hasan, hasan speaks English in his daily life, xqc doesn’t. Like with their family and friends and shit.
Apparently it's not happening anymore. IMO, it's probably best to just ignore her and let her fade into irrelevancy, she needs Dman more than he needs her.
James Cameron’s Avatar 2: twitch-pandora Destiny is normally a wheelchair-bound youtuber, but with the power of discord dms he can inhabit the body of a tall, lanky Frenchman and expel the brainrot from these sacred lands
poke sounded like the president talking how she did. "Im SO sorry..." "If you need something, DONT hesitate, ill be right there..." Makes me sick how fake it sounds. Idk how tf so many ppl like her
Damn this was a rollercoaster, xQc started out on the floor, rose like fucking tidal wave, dropped to the bottom again and then finally Adriana and Train came to fish him out of the hole he dug himself into. The accent was tanking him the whole time, unfortunately.
Not really the accent. He speaks way to fast thus slurring his words and then uses confusing metaphors. If he would just slow down and stop talking about rocks and shit, he would sound fine.
@@Roderik95 it's a bilingual problem, if he was talking in his native language he'd get his point across far easier, it's and unfortunate handicap that can't really be dealt with
@@ember4303 It is true it would make his point come across easier. But the handicap can be dealt with by staying away from those metaphors. Instead of using pebbles and rocks. Say that small pieces/statements all add up to something larger or something akin to that. English is my second language and I am doing fine. X is a smart guy, he can do the same.
Oh my sweet baby jesus! This is one of my all time favs just watching Destiny fight a literal proxy war and seeing that much just sheer joy and happiness from him. I had such a good belly laugh like honestly my sides hurt. This is pure joy!
Hasans chat: Why does Poki get a pass? Hasan: because she apologized LMAO HE'S COPING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING WRONG.
I'm gonna be honest Train sounds like the only person who has had to deal with this stuff in real life. Besides Destiny. Like to actually help a victim of SA that was not in theory lol. Everyone else is working off textbook cases which cover about 0% of real world situations lol. It shows when people who have never undergone the hardships they are saying they know the proper ways to get through and it shows glaringly lol
It can be open and shut in regards to nabbing the perpetrator and you'll still have to deal with a mountain of bullshit in regards to how other people view it. There's a reason why a lot of people don't come forward with their SA or CSA experiences.
A gamba-peddling degenerate who's completely detached from reality. Not nearly as bad as Nick Fuentes however, whom this community seems to love, so I guess having a liking for xQc is on the more normal side for DGG.
Destiny, you talk about how Poki is soft-spoken and how this shouldn't annoy people since a soft-spoken argument in a heated situation can be more constructive than the more aggressive discourse we see a lot during debates these days. Personally my problem is not with Poki being soft-spoken, my problem is with Poki being in 100% damage control mode and trying to spin accusations away from Miz. Train, as well as Adrianah herself have stated that Miz sent Maya over to what comes down to 'take control of the narrative'. They haven't provided proof for that, at least not yet, although there is at least some proof out there of Miz playing things down with very vicious statements and Train has mentioned in last nights stream that such evidence exists. My problem here is not with the way Poki speaks, my problem is that she is trying to manipulate things in a way that look like Slick is the only one who has done anything wrong here. She constantly presents this as an "either or"-scenario between Slick and Miz ("I wasn't sure if you were accusing Miz or Slick") and then puts Slick more and more into focus, trying to pull Miz out of the fire by agreeing that, oh yes, it was Slick. Which in the "either or"-narrative she is trying to push would mean that Slick is guilty and Miz is innocent. But if we are to believe Train and Adrianah - and considering that so far they have proven their main accusation and judging from the fallout, the connected accusations against Miz and Maya also have a lot of weight to them, even without clear evidence so far - then Miz and Maya went so far with this cover-up that it can be considered its own form of abuse. Now, I don't know if Poki was part of the five(?) hour long crisis phone call, but if she knows all the details or not, Adrianah is a very credible victim and by trying to spin it that way, Poki is actively trying to sweep her testimony under the rug.
I truly dont understand how people don't get the ick whenever poki speaks, you can hear in the voice all the characters and mask swapping throughout conversations.
Dude watching Xqc struggle at the beginning was so worth it when Destiny started to help and ultimately we got to see Hasan get destroyed for an hour 🤣🤣 had his tail between his legs
why does hasan keep saying “i didn’t know what was going on okay” for literally hours, literally repeating it hundreds of times when that’s exactly the point of what xqc was saying
Destiny when I first met you I didn’t really click with some of your messages, but as the years went on and really over the last couple weeks I’ve really enjoyed the ins and outs of your streams and videos! You really are a intelligent guy that has a superior amount of common sense and know how to put it into action snd absorbed by the varying lvls of intelligence . It truly is a art form what you do and highly underrated what you accomplish! I hope one day I we cross paths and I can meet you in person!!
ive never been a fan or liked xqc over the years, but honestly? i really have a lot of respect for him recently, and how well he's delt with some pretty bad shit
I just want to say... Isn't it weird that when Adrianah joined she didn't know what they were arguing about and then you take a step back and realize that all this back and forth was just them fighting to defend all their own reputations? they didn't give a rats ass about Adrianah. Shameless the whole lot of them. Adrianah said it herself.. How did they even go 2 hours before even considering having her on the call? She was in Hasan's chat the whole time and he didn't even consider it.
1000x this. This is such a content black hole. We haven’t had normal content for so long it seems. Everyone is so sucked into the drama and their personal vendettas that we’ve come to using SA (that the victim didn’t want to get heat over) as “nukes” and to morally grandstand. Every single fucking streamer makes it so apparent they don’t give a fuck about the victim but they are happy to sling shit at each other for big drama content. Streaming has been so fucked.
Honestly, if you watch the argument between Mizkif and Trainwreck (With, Xqc, asmongold, barry and mitch) you will notice most if not all the big streamers have a huge ego on their shoulders. During the call it went from finding out the truth about if Miz was trying to manipulate Adriannah into changing her story to Train and Miz arguing about their personal beef and personal drama. It always go backs to them because in all honesty they really only care about themselves.
@@CadetChicken they're dumb dudes who got lucky by getting rich playing video games and acting like idiots. Of course they're just gonna be basic and selfish. People gonna people
I think when you talk abou the gusano stuff, it might be better to compare it to calling Hispanic people “Pablo” when you don’t know their name, or when you’re trying to insult them. Does it actually mean anything harmful on its own? Doesn’t matter - the point is you’re using somebody’s perceived race or ethnicity as the basis for using the insult.
I mean gusano does mean something insulting. It’s an insult used for a specific race/ group/ ethnicity of people; it is racist by every definition of the word. How this is even a discussion twitch is utterly baffling to me, and how these lefties have gaslit their entire audiences into believing a slur based upon the ethnicity of a person is not racist is truly beyond me.
I'd guess it's because the cultural baggage associated with gusano is all from Cuba to describe counter-revolutionaries where a lot of slurs that tend to offend Americans have etymological roots in America. My only reference is my Italian family was never offended by dago, it's even been "reclaimed" in some way. WOP and Guinea was a bridge too far. (tbf I doubt anyone uses or is offended by those slurs anymore though)
No a better comparison is how white people took our word for the color black (negro) and made it racist. Lasan took our word for worm (gusano) and made it racist.
Why is it that every stream I watch of destiny I start off skeptical, then actively hating him, then loving him at them end. Good old destiny lmao, never change man.
I love how Hasan goes on about how his initial reaction to the Adriana SA accusations was to wait for further information and how he practices what he preaches and he didn't say anything bad, and as soon as XCQ mentions a clip he immediately back pedals into "well I said this before I had knew what was going on" THATS CALLED YOUR INITIAL REACTION. He looked so bad with how defensive he got after the clip.
I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE that xQc ended up being the debate vessel from which Steven can FINALLY go against Hasan I'm currently at about 1:41:00 and this shieeeeeeeeeeet is grandiosely funny
Jumping into this without knowing anything about it and jumping straight to Hasan malding is like a carousell ride of madness. I understand nothing they’re talking about lmao
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It's so silly, if xqcs message was to be taken so uncharitably why do we not give the same lens to the tweet by hasanabi? that gave the impression of a careless friend who abandons his duties to gamble, and he said he gave a lot of cop outs and qualifiers but if he could ignore everything about that in his own statement, then the same should be applied to his.
Is funny how a multimillionaire never paid me for the luxury airbnb they used for Mia Khalifa date.
But doesn't remember me on stream.
Isn’t roach racist against tuzsi tribe of Africa when the socialists came to exterminate them?
Watching Hasan and X debate situational ethics is like watching 2 starving coyotes fight over garbage
This needs to be the top comment.
Quite accurate
@@yhhkj529 what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
that was beautiful
I love how Hasan will only debate with someone when he's 100% confident he can win or thinks they're an idiot and yet still manages to fuck up.
To be fair he looked really strong at the start. It seemed to me like the tides didn't start turning until Destiny gave x some ammo in the form of the clip, then later more reinforcements came to seal the deal. It was a total L for Lasan in the end though.
And he thinks there's winning or losing while the other is trying to compromise and not destroy you in a "debate"
he should go back to debating tik-tokers lol
What are you even talking about? Did you even watch the whole thing you idiot
He should have employed some blitzkrieg shit. He was fine in the beginning lol.
Hasan pushed Destiny against the wall, sneering, "I hate you." Destiny scoffed. "I hate you too." His eyes glanced down to Hasan's lips, and Hasan smirked. "Like what you see?" Destiny flushed, twisting his head. "As if."
That made me actually burst out laughing, good shit homie, thanks for the laughs
This makes me wonder how much it costs to commission a mangaka for a short piece about some streamers who finally meet...
D: "HASAN, I have Repeatedly asked you Not to call me 'Woman'!"
H: "I'm sorry, Ms. Destiny"
D: "Thank you"
H: "My street slang is an increasingly valid form of expression. Most of the feminine pronouns do have mocking, but not necessarily in misogynistic undertones"
There is a hell for men like you
Bro XD
I wish I could have a fraction of the joy that Destiny feels when he watches Hasan do something foolish.
@@moonookiee idk man the malding is pretty hilarious
@@moonookiee we like to do a little trolling
@@zamokuhlethusi2964 To be fair xqc English is kinda weird and he doesn't know how to explain his thoughts.
He says things in a weird way and too fast and sometimes it just doesn't make much sense.
@@zamokuhlethusi2964 i mean doesn't his honesty just make him a human being?? its normal to be afraid of death. basing his entire personality off a TATE HYPOTHETICAL is the most pathetic reasoning i've ever heard. at least pick something else to dislike him for
@@holorenSHORTS His answer was survival of him, his wife and child. The hypothetical was dumb to begin with.
The fact that Destiny can effortlessly provide arguments to completely destroy Hasan even turning the debate 180 degrees against him is so fucking insane
Tbf xqc had the right ideas (like destiny said) he just struggles to say them
It literally feels like the "1% of my full power" meme
Hasan went from the top of the mountain during this debate to a filthy peasant asking for handouts by the end. This was an Atlanta Falcons level type of choke
Damn the falcons catching strays in a destiny videos comments. Cant say they haven’t earned it though.
Sadge imagine being a Falcons fan and getting shit on in a random Destiny video comment's page
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Destiny being the puppet master half way was glorious lmao. So good
Fantastic analysis 😂
I love how xQc is "crazy", "disgusting", etc but when Adrianah says the same thing about it sounding dismissive Hasan acts like a 6 year old afraid of getting grounded.
Fuck hasan, but xqc is definitely the more unhinged person. And he doesn’t really
Have a moral high ground to stand on over hasan when he lets his greed win over his moral belief. To say it’s morally wrong but gamble on stream anyways makes me atleast as morally in the wrong as anything hasan has said or more so I’m the short term
@@stuff4812 maybe yeah but atleast xqc isnt a slimy weasel rat.
@@stuff4812 Hasan doesn’t have a moral high ground to stand on either. Saying it’s wrong to use slurs against people except for the ones he likes to use against people he doesn’t like.
@@austinshoemaker1553 oh i know hasan doesnt have much ground to stand on, i dislike hasan way more. i was just responding to this guy seemingly acting like xqc is a reasonable person. hes very unstable with unreasonable anger at times with sketchy morals. he may be in the right by standing behind adrianna but he isnt some moral person.
@@stuff4812 Well, if you want the right position on this Adriana and gambling situation, you should probably look for the destiny, trainswrecks and devon nash video. It puts into perspective Poki, Ethan and Hasan's hypocritical position on luck based gambling being banned, but sportsbetting being fine.
Streamer watching another streamer watch another streamer talk about drama and eventually gets into a live streamed debate of multiple other streamers talk about drama. I love it.
This is the new meta, or maybe it was always part of the meta. A meta meta.
We out here with Jerry Springer from the year 2049
Yeah as someone new to twitch it was difficult to understand what was going on
@@AyeSayGang oh my, then good luck with understanding chat. I've seen several streams, yet I understand a negative amount of twitch chat culture.
Lmfao Destiny really used XQC as a conduit to slap Hasan around 💀
I love it when our favorite PoC woman streamer Destiny utilizes her ancestral magicks to become a Channeler of the French.
XQC needs someone like Destiny, Hasan is the biggest weasel. The only reason he chose to even talk to X is bcs he thinks he is confident enough to win the entire thing.
Hassan slapped himself around pretty badly most of the time.
@@duanebailey6253 Well, yeah. Because Lasan would never put himself in a situation where he could lose.
@@RS-fy9hb he did in this one. Says me and chat aren't anti white. Uses every slur against whites. It's OK when we do it.
I love how Hasan was like yeah calling someone a gusano is like calling someone a snake. Well then just call them a snake? Youre only calling them a gusano to add their ethnic background to the insult
Racism moment
This was one of the greatest streams in a long time. I can't believe that destiny managed to get a rage moment out of Hasan through text and being read out by XQC.
It was CRAZY 🤣 - 1:40:33 is when Hasan COMPLETELY melts down for folks wondering 😂
@@bean-pod it's gold
what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
hahahahhaah I always come back to this vid when i need a good laugh
Imagine if destiny was there himself, Lasan would've broke his fucking setup.
XQC lost this debate because he failed to mention that Destiny is a girls name
Ffs why do I keep falling for these comments 🤣
I hope this never gets old 🤣🤣
Amazing!
i really hate how "meme culture" has programmed people to be able to laugh at the same joke repeated literally hundreds of times.
True and based comment
Bro pokimane has literally used the N word on stream while playing league lmao yet she's like the golden girl of twitch and PR and political correctness. Her excuse was she grew up in Toronto and everyone talks like that lmao. As a strong black woman the only streamer that should be allowed to use this horrible word is our streamer Destiny.
Are you talking about the Anivia thing or did she actually say it some time?
I'm about to give you a really hot take. The internet should go back to the days between 2000 and 2010, when everyone engaged in constant, unrestrained bullying of one another and when using racial slurs was not taken seriously. In the long run, I believe this total unrestrained would be far better for online discourse and the online world than the current politically correct fake ass bullshit that everyone is trying to uphold. Give me back the previous era of the internet, when you could tell someone to kys, and people would wave their hands as if it was nothing. Total freedom of speech combined with almost no interference from large corporations unironically results in an internet world that is much more peaceful and enjoyable to be a part of.
The time she actually said it I don't think she was playing league
tbf that's a valid excuse. nobody thought the soft a version was a bad word when i was in high school in toronto 10ish years ago.
Pretty sure she said "this anivia" it would be insane if she says the n word so nonchalantly think what you want about her she knows PR.
If only XQC could speak english he would be unstoppable.
Lmfao
Destiny got exiled from twitch and is now slowly watching it burn it’s like Nero and Rome. His influence still is wide spread throughout the entire platform but he’s completely separate from it it’s fucking hilarious.
Instead of a lyre destiny plays the piano as it burns
Common Destiny W
@@deckleberry I acknowledge your feelings.
@@deckleberry damn bro 💀💀 didn’t know it hurt that bad
"Destiny is like the Joker at the end of Dark Knight where he is defeated by Batman but laughs because chaos or something". Lmao get a grip brother.
Destiny's channel is the best place to gremlin lurk on internet drama and laugh guilt free, every other communities shame you into taking sides and whereas destiny understands the entertainment value in just flat out drama.
wish xqc understood and spoke english better. I see where the convo dips and it’s when he uses metaphors that help him understand but confuse others. When he said the thing about heavier rocks and scales instead of saying “this tips the scale” it threw the others off. Hasan doesn’t try to understand him and he talks forever and interrupts xqc a lot so it muddies the convo even more. It’s pretty obvious when someone doesn’t interact with bilingual people because they do dumb shit like this and derail the convo.
xqc can barely speak, i have no idea why people enjoy listening to him.
how is the rock/scale thing hard to understand for anyone?
yeah. hasan was using steven crowder tactics when talking to xqc, just repeating yelling over him trying to big bro him and dominate the conversation. really gross.
@@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713 don’t want steven crowder much but if he does that i agree
Then hassan will be like “whaatt” in a condensing way tryna make it seem dumb. Or repeat what x says In a condensing way.
why is Destiny the only streamer who doesnt jump around and avoid the issue. it seems like hasan and even xqc sometimes just argue without actually saying anything
I think the main reason is that it’s actually pretty hard to do. Destiny is exceptionally well spoken and logical. Typically people crumble under the pressure of needing to respond and lose the conversations objective/logical strand and it just devolves into people grasping at whatever surface level things come to mind. Destiny can juggle all the arguments and still keep it focused on the essentials.
I've watched him jump around and "avoid the issue" more times than I can count, he's just better at hiding what he's doing
I'd say that destiny in the past has definitely argued with hasan for what seems like the sake of it too ngl
When most people get into a heated debate, emotions flare up from confrontation. To make rational points, you have to internally manage the emotional blockage. To be successful in delivering your rational points, you need to respond quickly and understandably. It's SUPER HARD to do this without either being a little autistic/sociopathic or having very rigid and deeply explored core principles. Destiny probably has both of these things going for him plus years and years of experience of actively seeking out this kind of conflict. Basically every other streamer has no deeply understood value system that they can draw from naturally in debate. Most of them like xQc end up self-destructing at the emotional step and finish the debate feeling like they just couldn't say what they meant to.
I hate the fucks in the online debatosphere as much as the next DGGer but I think we should make sure to not assume these streamers are being "weasily" or "avoiding the issue" out of malice. We're just accustomed to listening to the only person here that's actually equipped to have reasonable conversation about difficult topics.
@@Zetsuuga This is why Destiny does this thing where he calms himself before he explodes its so cool. Sneako makes fun of him for it but doesn't know its a god tier tactic
It took Hasan 3 hours and for the victim to come on to appologize which further proved X's point. Someone just needs to teach X how to talk lmfao and in a calm manner where it doesnt escalatae to screaming cuz logically he was right. Like Train said its not always about the intentions of a streamer its about the effect that it has. It took Poki like 5 mins to come on and appologize multiple times and still explain her reasoning in a decent way regardless of her PR voice or not. I still respect that ngl. Im glad I was able to watch this cuz it clarified a lot of the situation on both sides.
Hasan is allergic to apologizing. I think he's got PTSD from apologising. He did the same thing with the JayExci situation.
Situation: Hasan watched Jay's 45 minute video and left to make chicken nuggies for himself while Jays video played. He spoke for about 4 out of the 45 minutes and never paused the video. He kept the title and channel name hidden for the entirety of the video except the brief moments that his cursor moved over the video. At the last 3 minutes Jay was advertising his channel and suggesting other videos and as soon as Jay did this Hasan lightspeed closed the tab and started watching another video.
Jay found out and said don't just watch my videos without adding anything to them or if you do please just give me credit and suggest that if your viewers liked the video they can go the channel name.
Option 1: Hasan can apologise and say in the future he won't watch the videos or if he does he will make sure to advertise the channel content at the end.
Option 2: Hasan can say he won't watch any videos then if the creator is too stupid to understand that him watching their entire video and not giving any credit is actually great exposure. Then after Jay makes a video explaining the entire situation and suggesting what Hasan can do, Hasan will call him a Nazi live on stream to thousands of people.
Take a guess which option our racist dude-bro picked.
what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
He's not allergic to apologizing, he's allergic to accountability
I love how Destiny knows exactly how to get under Hassan’s skin 😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂 the moment Destiny started chiming in Hassan began losing his mind 😂😂
I fucking loved it xD
Yeah but isn't Destiny helping out the infamous gamba-peddling scumbag xQc?
As much of a goober as Hasan is, he's still in the right on this topic: X and Train roped him into this for no reason and both hate him for the single reason that he's against gambling - i.e. their only true love.
i have fallen uncomfortably in love with referring to emotional delivery on stream as someone "ulting" in a very short period of time
LASAN ULTED
hasan uses the word "literally" 87 times per minute. does he think that makes him sound smart?
he watches old leafy vids before he goes to sleep
All I hear is sneako impersonating literally🤣
he’s just californian
It's funny because he's stupid
“…… Okay?”
-Hasan
It’s so funny that the first couples hours I just kept thinking hasan could’ve just said “yea, I see where you’re coming from and I’ll try not to jump to conclusions next time” and when poke came in she just did exactly that destiny gave her kudos. I think it’s so clear that these guys are SO scared to misstep and admit to it, at least typically
Yeah.. I've also been noticing a lot of "sorry if it seemed like..." or "I'm sorry if you felt..." type apologies, where it feels like they're completely dodging responsibility
@@syl59281 I love Hasan and I watch his streams regularly, but I noticed this as well. "I'm sorry if it seemed like" is just not a proper apology.
@@deadzoneternity okay sure. But I typed up this comment before the end like half hour where Hasan tried pulling people to make xQc look bad, and everything came crashing down and he finally started changing his tune. That looked exponentially worse than what I said. It might’ve gone completely differently as xQc maybe wouldn’t have popped off, Destiny maybe wouldn’t have felt a need to jump in, Hasan wouldn’t have brought in people to try to own xQc, etc.
@@mialia15104
Respect
@@mialia15104 at times I kinda see where he’s coming from, it’s a passing comment in like a 40 second clip. I know destiny was sure it was maliciously dodged, and maybe it was, but I thought it was more him and xQc just straight up talking past each other unfortunately
“Xqc was looking a little rough, pretty antsy and nervous in the first half. I’m not sure what coach bonnell told him in the locker room, but boy has he come out ready to play in the third.”
the absolute glee on Destiny's face during this is golden
As soon as Destiny sends xqc 1 message Hasan instantly blows up, Destiny is just too good its so fucking funny watching this live.
When the daliban pulled up and started whispering in X’s ear he understood the plan and executed it to perfection
Hasan weighing in on SA allegations to his tens of thousands of viewers is a really awful thing to do. "Hey, im just going to take strong stances on SA allegations i know nothing about"
Most of the people are there to get off to Hasan's faux morality. And I mean literally.
It was hard to listen to Hassan his takes were so retarded
Hasan weighing in on anything is a really awful thing to do, dude has a fuggin brain the size of a pea.
honestly crazy, I don't understand how "I was just going off of what chat was saying and trying to piece together information" is ever an acceptable defense or apology. It shouldn't be, "I'm sorry I was confused," it's "I'm sorry I take this subject matter so frivolously I was willing to operate off of chat."
and he kept repeating literally hundreds of times throughout the conversation “i didn’t know what was going on.” completely irrelevant every single time he repeated the phrase. so frustrating
Destiny showing how Hasan could easily pretty much get himself out of the heat and making himself look better opened my eyes to lots of things within minutes of thinking lmao. The language you can use to manipulate the flow of a conversation within just a few sentences is simply crazy
Correct. Now, the trick is to recognize when the master himself, Destiny, is doing it. None of these streamers care about this girl or are genuine, including destiny. We can see Destiny farming and having a blast over this situation. He is great at manipulating words and creating narratives, which is why he’s a great debater and always wins rhetorically.
@@mrmr2488 Yes, but Destiny holds himself accountable to the beliefs he has, and part of those beliefs is that justice is important. So while the victim here might not personally matter to Destiny, principally, it's still important for that situation to be resolved. Farming drama, and helping x get Lasan angry, is very muxh appreciated on my end xD.
@@RS-fy9hb lol. Destiny certainly claims to do that but that’s not true. He was LOL’ing out of his mind when that girl was crying about her experience because of how bad it make Hassan look. Don’t fall for his silly rhetoric. He can and will roll around in the mud with the rest of them for his career, 100%, which is FINE imo. The problem is that he does pretend to hold himself to a high standard and that’s just all talk on stream to come across as an honest person.
@@mrmr2488 you are so delusional, destiny is just normal bro go get help
@@mrmr2488 Does he hold himself to a high standard though? Does he say he is above others and holds himself to a higher standard than others? Or is that just us commentators putting him somewhat on a pedestal and glamorizing him unintentionally? I'm genuinely asking, I don't have much skin in the game. I just recently started rewatching destiny's content and know nothing about all this drama and who you say Destiny purports himself to be.
This is the 1st time I've actually sat through a video with Hassan featured. It's astounding how much he projects.
My dude, go watch the n word drama if you haven't. There's a documentary someone made on UA-cam
If you get frustrated with x losing in the beginning skip 1:23:38 where XQC (Destiny) vs Hassan
Thank you for the timestamp brother, inshallah
The whole debate was a headfuck to watch i was routing for x from the start of all this but by the end i kinda hate all of them except train hes kinda cool
A real one
I think it's a lot more fun to watch xqc losing and then watch the comeback
bro u need to watch the whole things that's like linking the climax of a movie 💀
I don’t think I’ve laughed and smiled at a destiny video this much before. You can see and hear the pure joy he’s having over Lasans rage. *Inserts destiny is a girls name joke here*
what i get out of this whole discussion is Hasan is a piece of garbage and his only defense is that Xqc is gambling?... well after all they said i can safely say Hasan is a piece of garbage and Xgc is promoting gambling... thanks for clearing this up for me
Lmao X nailing Hasan at 1:40:00 is absolutely fucking hilarious
Destiny is like a proud dad in that moment
Never in a billion years did I expect xQc to be the winner in an argument against a full-time debater ( even if said debater is terrible at it ). Dude had to bring in Ludwig and Poki to even stand a chance, great job on Steven Bonnel II for supporting a man in need. Daliban zindabad !
When did Hasan become a debater? I thought he just watched other people's content while he eats chicken tendies.
@@Segphalt I mean he's been on TV as a debater before
@@Segphalt Oh sorry, I completely forgot about Hasan's react andy arc...
@@laster3753 Is he actually off that arc? I don't watch Hasan so I really had no idea he does debates now.
watching Destiny peg Hasan without even being on the call is the best thing ever
you might want to reword that
@@MrsNeedlemouse jun is the sexiest persona character of All Time fr this is not up for debate
@@valco8371 I'll take your word for it xD, but Lasan's pegging by Destiny, is gold.
The "I know you're getting talking points from destiny" was when 3 million dollar commie lost his shit.
Did anyone else hear the echo of Destiny at 2:00:54 and notice Hasan reacted to the sound?
I had a black Cuban roommate in college and Destiny’s take on “ask people who are from there” 100% true. He grew up here mostly but his parents spent most of their lives there and he was like “Yeah it’s horrific; they ate burnt chunks of towels just to keep from starving completely”
I know even Castro had his points and moments but he’s not some heroic liberator just because he wasn’t pure evil.
Edit: also I’ve never seen a Hasan clip where he’s ever been as genuinely unhinged/angry as he is at 1:40:33
You gotta give it to Hassan, its quite beautiful seeing him snatching defeat from the jaws of victory ✌️
It was amazing.
Destiny’s problem in this whole drama is his inability to recognize the opinion of the other side. he has good rebuttals for some things, but can’t accept that he has a woman’s name
Keep in mind destiny is an actual worth with actual meaning to it and not just a girls name 😂
New secret win tactic for destiny:
Whenever you want Hasan to win an argument, dm him the exact winning strategy as if you're trying to help him out. He then cannot use the strategy cause you take credit for the W and if he doesn't use it, he's using a sub optimal one making him more likely to lose.
We do a little trolling.
And if he does use the argument, EASY clickbait, "Hasan uses DESTINY talking point and wins!?!?!?"
Destiny sending xqc points mid debate is actually one of the funniest fucking things I’ve seen in a while. Good content.
Watching this was like a WWE tag team match. Train comes in and RKO’s out of nowhere
train with the iron chair from the top rope!!!!
destiny casually playing factorio while all this goes down is my modern day fireplace 🔥☮
My favorite part is how Adrianah responds to all of PR Poki and Hasan's critisms against Train's Tweet as wrong lmfao.
Poki really do be sounding like a customer service representative.
She’s so fake
Oh my god Train and X are like the ultimate combo
we got a master of small picture and a master of big picture
watching Train see the same thing Destiny saw, X about to derail HARD, then watching Train adjust the rails to avoid it, sealed the deal for me
Train do be a master of the rails
@@mattimeikalainen6963 domer do be on the white
@@AscendedBeyond the what? Can someone translate?
@@RS-fy9hb trains on cocaine
@@RS-fy9hb PJSugar
I watched most of this live, and it was glorious. xQc is smart, but he’s just not consistently great at articulating his points. And I think the language barrier and his speech impediment also can sometimes hurt him in arguments/debates.
That said, once Destiny started essentially proxy debating for him, and then Hasan started getting so fkn mad, that was the best content, I was dying. All xQc needed was a little help, and he started to turn it around so hard and fast that it began making Hasan mald.
Then, when Adrianah and Train entered, Hasan pretty much HAD to sit there silently and just take all the hits. Which made it EVEN better.
Yeah, this was hilarious and entertaining. NOT because of what it was based around, but finally seeing the big steamer clique full of these insanely privileged narcissistic scumbags crumble a bit was incredibly satisfying. Been a long time coming ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I fucking relish in this xD. Whenever we can see Lasan lose his mind, I'm a happy camper.
*Consistently* great?! he's not great AT ALL, he is AWFUL at articulating his points, was the same with with his previous debates, it feels like he's ignores/doesn't see the obvious points and gets led off on tangents and taken for a ride while he gets increasingly mad and unhinged. Meanwhile Train just comes in and says what X should have said hours ago
edit: not to mention he says things in a disjointed rambly way that leaves loads of holes for people who want to disbelieve or aren't listening in good faith, Awful
@@Ven_detta_ *not consistently great
@@Ven_detta_ learn 2 read cuh
The clique didn't crumble - Destiny literally helped xQc, the biggest one of them all, cement himself further. When what he needed was to be brought down a peg, all Destiny did was inflate his ego even more.
Man this was hilarious. Once I found out destiny was trying to help him during this I had to see this POV and it's hilarious
The part where Hasan gaslit XQC was hard to watch. Hate when Hasan wiggles out of something when he's so clearly in the wrong.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!
That was super disappointing to listen too. He keeps taking full advantage of xqc's inability to articulate certain ideas because he's bilingual, and then even uses that to miscontrue his points sometimes when he gets backed into a corner
Which part?
@@shadowgame0630 I don't know if it's Xqc being ESL as the reason for not being articulate. Hasan is ESL too and we took the piss when he tried to use it as an excuse
@@MrKiingpin yeah but XQC clearly doesn’t have as good of a grasp on the English language as hasan, hasan speaks English in his daily life, xqc doesn’t. Like with their family and friends and shit.
Gohan went HARD on Cell, "Destiny" was on his side. PogU
I'm only halfway through and this might be one of my most favorite Destiny moments of all time
I never realized to what extent Twitch is basically held together by mutual assured destruction, and apparently this is nuke dropping month.
It's like machiavellian and they're all inbred
It's a wretched hive of scum and villainy
when X said "racism is bad across the board" somehow Hasan's chat managed to disagree
I have never seen Destiny more maniacally happy than he was at 1:40:40 lol
I died laughing at that entire life 2 minutes
Destiny looked like a proud father during the second half of the debate
This is like a shonen protagonist channeling the spirit of their dead sensei to turn the fight around at the last second.
And said dead sensei used to be friends with the antagonist.
It was so satisfying to see Adriana in support of xqc and slam dunk Hassan
Where's the manifesto lol it's been 2-3 days already 😭
I watched Charlie’s video on it yesterday, and then I got stuck in a chess black hole, yeah I can’t stay up with all of this.
Reddit said he's not doing it. He risks conflict going Nuclear and getting his YTB banned.
Apparently it's not happening anymore. IMO, it's probably best to just ignore her and let her fade into irrelevancy, she needs Dman more than he needs her.
Don't need no manifesto got content for at least a week
He said he changed his mind
When felix gets rattled the constant, frantic stuttering completely changes the dynamic of any debate he hopes to win.
It's the French Canadian in him
He is so awful at arguing his side lol even when he is right.
P
Tbh I thought it was clear that hasan was trying to overpower him by not giving him time to explain and talking over him
"Felix" cringe. I watched the entire thing twice at this point and he only really slips up 3 maybe 4 times
Hasan malding at the end of this whole thing was chef's kiss. Legit hope Adrianah is good and glad she has a support system.
Watching destiny and Hassan debate through xqc is my favorite
The drama may be very entertaining but don't let that distract you from the realization that Destiny is a woman's name
bro you comment that all the time 😭😭,
you like Destiny’s high school bully 😭
FUCK I ALMOST FORGOT, thank you man
Yay rehashing same old jokes over and over 😂
August knows what he’s doing… using this juicy drama to try and obfuscate the fact that Destiny is a girls name
But is August a girl's name?
@@zirene5237 BIG TRUE. NOBODY has yet realized this fact! 5-head Zirene
This has to be one of the best of videos i have seen in a while. THanks for recording this
Twitch banning destiny is the best thing to ever to happen to hasan lmaooo 💀
I can honestly say as much as I love watching destiny debate I think watching him play Godmode through others is way better😂
XQC reminds me of Bruce Banner 💯%,
the problem is what his Hulk looks like when he rages on stream 😟
Fr
On me
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Good reference
Ily Championzeme
James Cameron’s Avatar 2: twitch-pandora
Destiny is normally a wheelchair-bound youtuber, but with the power of discord dms he can inhabit the body of a tall, lanky Frenchman and expel the brainrot from these sacred lands
Real LASSAN and Pokie Lame moment.
its crazy how are she was back tracking
Google translated Lassan to slow, I'm fucking DECEASED
poke sounded like the president talking how she did. "Im SO sorry..." "If you need something, DONT hesitate, ill be right there..." Makes me sick how fake it sounds. Idk how tf so many ppl like her
It doesn't matter, hassan's and poki's simp army will always be there to defend them and grow more and more
@M S Nah 2 S because he’s a sssssnake
Hasan and Poki prove you should invest in a good microphone to gain an advantage
Damn this was a rollercoaster, xQc started out on the floor, rose like fucking tidal wave, dropped to the bottom again and then finally Adriana and Train came to fish him out of the hole he dug himself into. The accent was tanking him the whole time, unfortunately.
Not really the accent. He speaks way to fast thus slurring his words and then uses confusing metaphors. If he would just slow down and stop talking about rocks and shit, he would sound fine.
@@Roderik95 it's a bilingual problem, if he was talking in his native language he'd get his point across far easier, it's and unfortunate handicap that can't really be dealt with
@@ember4303 It is true it would make his point come across easier. But the handicap can be dealt with by staying away from those metaphors. Instead of using pebbles and rocks. Say that small pieces/statements all add up to something larger or something akin to that.
English is my second language and I am doing fine. X is a smart guy, he can do the same.
@@ember4303 I’m ESL and speak much better than X. His brain is fried
@@MrCaptainTea haha probably. He's definitely worse than most
Oh my sweet baby jesus! This is one of my all time favs just watching Destiny fight a literal proxy war and seeing that much just sheer joy and happiness from him. I had such a good belly laugh like honestly my sides hurt. This is pure joy!
i watched this from felixs pov and had no idea this was happening, thankyou Destiny and you guys for super powering x. this pov is so fucking funny
Hasans chat: Why does Poki get a pass?
Hasan: because she apologized
LMAO HE'S COPING BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO APOLOGIZE FOR BEING WRONG.
I'm gonna be honest Train sounds like the only person who has had to deal with this stuff in real life. Besides Destiny. Like to actually help a victim of SA that was not in theory lol. Everyone else is working off textbook cases which cover about 0% of real world situations lol. It shows when people who have never undergone the hardships they are saying they know the proper ways to get through and it shows glaringly lol
It can be open and shut in regards to nabbing the perpetrator and you'll still have to deal with a mountain of bullshit in regards to how other people view it. There's a reason why a lot of people don't come forward with their SA or CSA experiences.
I don’t watch XQC, but anytime he comes up in content I do watch it genuinely makes me smile. Always fun to hear from.
A gamba-peddling degenerate who's completely detached from reality. Not nearly as bad as Nick Fuentes however, whom this community seems to love, so I guess having a liking for xQc is on the more normal side for DGG.
@@cinatiropel damn alright man. Just said he’s fun to hear from and he’s funny.
Destiny, you talk about how Poki is soft-spoken and how this shouldn't annoy people since a soft-spoken argument in a heated situation can be more constructive than the more aggressive discourse we see a lot during debates these days.
Personally my problem is not with Poki being soft-spoken, my problem is with Poki being in 100% damage control mode and trying to spin accusations away from Miz. Train, as well as Adrianah herself have stated that Miz sent Maya over to what comes down to 'take control of the narrative'. They haven't provided proof for that, at least not yet, although there is at least some proof out there of Miz playing things down with very vicious statements and Train has mentioned in last nights stream that such evidence exists.
My problem here is not with the way Poki speaks, my problem is that she is trying to manipulate things in a way that look like Slick is the only one who has done anything wrong here. She constantly presents this as an "either or"-scenario between Slick and Miz ("I wasn't sure if you were accusing Miz or Slick") and then puts Slick more and more into focus, trying to pull Miz out of the fire by agreeing that, oh yes, it was Slick. Which in the "either or"-narrative she is trying to push would mean that Slick is guilty and Miz is innocent.
But if we are to believe Train and Adrianah - and considering that so far they have proven their main accusation and judging from the fallout, the connected accusations against Miz and Maya also have a lot of weight to them, even without clear evidence so far - then Miz and Maya went so far with this cover-up that it can be considered its own form of abuse.
Now, I don't know if Poki was part of the five(?) hour long crisis phone call, but if she knows all the details or not, Adrianah is a very credible victim and by trying to spin it that way, Poki is actively trying to sweep her testimony under the rug.
I truly dont understand how people don't get the ick whenever poki speaks, you can hear in the voice all the characters and mask swapping throughout conversations.
Dude watching Xqc struggle at the beginning was so worth it when Destiny started to help and ultimately we got to see Hasan get destroyed for an hour 🤣🤣 had his tail between his legs
When Hasan sees the part where destiny was giving xqc answers he's gonna be so mad
Someone messaged him because he raged mid stream about destiny sending him talking points.
why does hasan keep saying “i didn’t know what was going on okay” for literally hours, literally repeating it hundreds of times when that’s exactly the point of what xqc was saying
Destiny when I first met you I didn’t really click with some of your messages, but as the years went on and really over the last couple weeks I’ve really enjoyed the ins and outs of your streams and videos! You really are a intelligent guy that has a superior amount of common sense and know how to put it into action snd absorbed by the varying lvls of intelligence . It truly is a art form what you do and highly underrated what you accomplish! I hope one day I we cross paths and I can meet you in person!!
ive never been a fan or liked xqc over the years, but honestly? i really have a lot of respect for him recently, and how well he's delt with some pretty bad shit
i agree, not a big fan of him but i'll admit he has his share of great takes and some not so great takes
Yeah I used to hate him during the overwatch days, but his ability to rile people up has grown on me over the years.
@@ember4303 Degenerate attitude. Moral relativism: starting a nuclear war to own the _____.
hasan literally shaking and crying when he watches this and sees you sent the clip
That Ad placement was tactical...
Watching Destiny lol while pulling Xqc from the jaws of defeat is peak content
Hasan literally shifts XQCs point every time he gets busted. Pretends he doesn’t know XQCs point
I just want to say... Isn't it weird that when Adrianah joined she didn't know what they were arguing about and then you take a step back and realize that all this back and forth was just them fighting to defend all their own reputations? they didn't give a rats ass about Adrianah. Shameless the whole lot of them.
Adrianah said it herself.. How did they even go 2 hours before even considering having her on the call? She was in Hasan's chat the whole time and he didn't even consider it.
1000x this. This is such a content black hole. We haven’t had normal content for so long it seems. Everyone is so sucked into the drama and their personal vendettas that we’ve come to using SA (that the victim didn’t want to get heat over) as “nukes” and to morally grandstand. Every single fucking streamer makes it so apparent they don’t give a fuck about the victim but they are happy to sling shit at each other for big drama content.
Streaming has been so fucked.
Honestly, if you watch the argument between Mizkif and Trainwreck (With, Xqc, asmongold, barry and mitch) you will notice most if not all the big streamers have a huge ego on their shoulders. During the call it went from finding out the truth about if Miz was trying to manipulate Adriannah into changing her story to Train and Miz arguing about their personal beef and personal drama. It always go backs to them because in all honesty they really only care about themselves.
@@CadetChicken they're dumb dudes who got lucky by getting rich playing video games and acting like idiots. Of course they're just gonna be basic and selfish. People gonna people
It's so wild coming back to this conversation hearing Hasan make the EXACT SAME ARGUMENTS he rejects from Ethan during the Leftover Podcast drama.
Imagine being Adrianah and having Hasan moral grandstand and back pedal about a SA you experienced.
I love how destiny is commentating on this conversation like it’s an esports event
I think when you talk abou the gusano stuff, it might be better to compare it to calling Hispanic people “Pablo” when you don’t know their name, or when you’re trying to insult them. Does it actually mean anything harmful on its own? Doesn’t matter - the point is you’re using somebody’s perceived race or ethnicity as the basis for using the insult.
I mean gusano does mean something insulting. It’s an insult used for a specific race/ group/ ethnicity of people; it is racist by every definition of the word. How this is even a discussion twitch is utterly baffling to me, and how these lefties have gaslit their entire audiences into believing a slur based upon the ethnicity of a person is not racist is truly beyond me.
I'd guess it's because the cultural baggage associated with gusano is all from Cuba to describe counter-revolutionaries where a lot of slurs that tend to offend Americans have etymological roots in America.
My only reference is my Italian family was never offended by dago, it's even been "reclaimed" in some way. WOP and Guinea was a bridge too far. (tbf I doubt anyone uses or is offended by those slurs anymore though)
No a better comparison is how white people took our word for the color black (negro) and made it racist. Lasan took our word for worm (gusano) and made it racist.
Bad argument. This is the same energy as Hassan saying Karen is a slur lmfao. Can't be comparable to gu***
pablo is a name, gusano was literally used as an insult/slur.
Hasan "I don't want to cancel you, I just want you to change your behavior [so I don't have to cancel you]" Piker
Why is it that every stream I watch of destiny I start off skeptical, then actively hating him, then loving him at them end. Good old destiny lmao, never change man.
1:26:34 the moment that turned the tides, Hasan, sitting on top of the mountain, could not had foreseen the disaster that was heading his way.
This was the most entertaining video I've seen in a very long time. Destiny and X for the win!
I love how Hasan goes on about how his initial reaction to the Adriana SA accusations was to wait for further information and how he practices what he preaches and he didn't say anything bad, and as soon as XCQ mentions a clip he immediately back pedals into "well I said this before I had knew what was going on" THATS CALLED YOUR INITIAL REACTION. He looked so bad with how defensive he got after the clip.
I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE that xQc ended up being the debate vessel from which Steven can FINALLY go against Hasan
I'm currently at about 1:41:00 and this shieeeeeeeeeeet is grandiosely funny
It's fucking golden xD.
Destiny and Hasan are so obsessed with each other, I honestly ship them. it would be peak enemies to lovers.
i agree, just kiss and make up
Jumping into this without knowing anything about it and jumping straight to Hasan malding is like a carousell ride of madness. I understand nothing they’re talking about lmao