This patch really feels like it wasn't playtested. How does Ram's swordtoss bug make it past basic testing? How does Nago's damage go up? How does Goldlewis? The ideas and vision are there, but the execution feels incredibly rushed and balance is completely out of whack.
@@The_Blazelighter and the funniest part about it is sol and dizzy get a 100meter super, while calvados is a discount 100meter super that costs half and swords
To be fair, using calvados is a lot more situational now. Most of Ram's conversions don't work without throwing at least one of her swords, so the amount of times you actually get to use calvados is next to 0.
Ramlethal has been my favorite character in the game since I started. I love her aesthetic, I love her beast-like moves, I love her quiet demeanor, and I love the giant swords. I think she's so cool- but for some reason it's impossible for Arcsys to balance her or any of the other top tiers right. I genuinely wish she was more like XRD Ram now because her tools as they are seem so, so toxic unless they're straight up bad. (Also she was just cooler in XRD. I want the button rekka with multiple options back and the ability to set swords like, really bad. Unfortunately Wall Break has been a disaster for the kits of so many characters in this game.)
what was supposed to be a new and exciting season that would keep me motivated to keep playing strive has instead gotten me to play sf6 and under night lol (its crazy how refreshing playing a game with sensible damage levels is for once) Maybe Ram got giga buffed because she was supposedly top tier for the whole game's lifespan yet never won anything. This is the universe balancing itself out by making sure she cannot lose a tourney.
I think what is annoying at least at my level, is the fact that the one thing I loved was the flow if throwing and picking up swords. and now that's kind of gone, once I throw a sword I can't pick it back up and that annoys me. that was one of the things I loved and now that's it's gone, even after learning all the broken shit. it doesn't feel fun because they took away one of the major things I loved about playing this character. and it sucks knowing it's not coming back
Its exhausting being a Ram main. I just wanna play the character I like, but every time she gets hit with a huge rework to make her something that is supposed to make it nicer for everyone else and it just gets worse. I dont play this game to be liked, but fuck its annoying to have every one of my accomplishments and those of my peers shat on. At this point I'd rather her be bottom 1 so I can actually play the game without some kind of death threat. The infinite pressure clip is fake as hell though. There are a bunch of ways to get out of that at different points.
Totally get what you mean. Been a Ram player since the game dropped on Xbox, if I play her against my best friend he quits in three matches flat no matter what patch it was. It's infuriating that they haven't decided to kick her in the shins yet so I can play a character people won't whine about being dishonest.
I feel this on a deep, personal, level. I mainly play with friends and it gets tiresome hearing them complain about the character(s) I'm playing and summing their loss up because of arbitray factors like character tier, rather than the evident skill issues and them genuinely not knowing the matchup. Like I could be playing Jack-O and they'd be complaining about her reversal super despite them mashing meterless reversals during my offense/oki constantly as Leo, Sol and Baiken (S4). Or getting anti-aired by minion throws as if I'm Steph Curry shooting a 3 because I keep catching them over committing with IADs in neuch. Hell, they could pull off the worst reversal super I've ever seen where it wouldn't even land and they still complain it's Jack-O's fault that they didn't hit me.
Yeah absolutely, I've seen 2 reasons given as to why people drop Ramlethal, number 1 being character hate, and number 2 is that pre-season 4 she's honestly been overhyped, and there's better character picks for most people. People could lose for backing into the corner and jumping into sword throw, but win the majority of interactions and burst both her swords away a couple times, then believe they were at a disadvantage the entire time because of how oppressive the corner pressure felt; but at the end of the day, their character actually had numerous advantages (for example a meterless reversal, similar damage, faster buttons, better air to ground and ground to air coverage, better mix, easier reward off charged dust, etc.). I've even played a player near my skill level as Faust versus my main (Ramlethal) and I beat them 40-0, and they still thought Ramlethal was some easy baby "zoner"(?) who didn't have to work for anything. Like, huh? If she was easy, they should've won at least 1 match if we go even or 2-1 with almost any other matchup in the game, right? smh
@griffinfaw5697 the Faust ram matchup is rough though; not as bad as your example, nor does it justify their complaints, but with the tweaks they have been making to both characters I think there has been increasingly more counterplay now more than ever. Some aspects just are... a bit overturned(the only big thing with the matchup is that ram generally has more consistent damage, but faust has items so its fine). With the previous patches though, Twitter hype has just been blown out of proportion.
@retro_crasher True, I was 100% a better Faust than they were a Ramlethal, but I did end up winning 40-0 until he learned a lot more the next day (still lost to me, just not as bad). Ramlethal definitely does have higher consistent damage, and Faust is big (Ramlethal loves this) but a lot of normals Faust snuffed Ram in the games (some are bigger and/or faster than a couple of Ram's, kick and 2H really helps), and scarecrow rc is a surprisingly good teleport, especially if they know you might immediately grab them. However I'd say his main advantage is aerial gameplay? Besides morto, Ramlethal didn't have a lot to do against jumpers. Her 2H isn't reliable, her 6P isn't tall, high sword didn't guard break (and had 20f startup), jump jab could be stubby, jump slash had to be done preemptively, though I did like 2147S (down back into upback immediately into slash buffers her double swing) when applicable. Much worse at punishing jumpy Faust than characters with meterless dps, or taller 6Ps
Parts of me likes this patch in terms of concept because it reminds me of her in Xrd where she had unique playstyles, but now people are already beginning to hate fighting her again like they did three years ago.
11:12 don't mean to be that guy but I think a couple characters can avoid ram roundstart sword by dash blocking. Ik gio can and she can do it while blocking 2S and 2K
As a testament main, I’m amused at how they put all this attention to buffing Ram and Goldlewis and then for Testament they just nerfed the best move and made stain pops on throws we didn’t need.
I have hundreds of hours in this game, one of my favorites of all time, and dizzy has been my most anticipated character since Goldlewis. Despite all this, haven’t even touched this game since the update since it’s just clown town. Praying for you brother.
I was playing her after the patch, sucked. Didn't know how to win as my pressure no longer works. Now I wanted to find some guide on UA-cam, sorted by recent and saw this video and saw the corner to corner meterless with a goofy ahh rekka 1 loop at the end. The what? She is FAR LESS intuitive and apparently broken at the same time?
This clip reminding of Xrd ram experience. Since, i play that game offline mostly. I remember how easily Ai could able to bring me corner from round start with her tekken style. If you don't like this one. You probably don't like to fight against Xrd Ram.
Yeah, no character in the game was able to meterlessly wall to wall off a normal hit until this patch. that officially makes her more broken than 1.0 chaos, cuz at least with chaos it took execution. this is like the devs wanted every ram main to make top 8 in tournament.
Not at all saying it isn't all bullshit in every way and it definitely needs nerfs, but you don't need a 9f far slash to win roundstart. You can jump over the sword and get a full counter hit combo. Also if you have a low profile 2k or the like you can avoid the s sword in the corner if she gets greedy and doesn't space it out a lot. That's about all the counterplay I can find. It's not much :(
I still think Happy Chaos in S1 was the strongest Guilty Gear Strive character even better than this version of Ramlethal. I mean he had Slayer damage on any hit, his zonning was godlike, his pressure lasted way longer and was more insane than now, he had more health than this version of Ranlethal, his steady aim shots had insane chip damage. His offence and damage was so good that him having no defence didin't mean anything.
Ramlethal is way too crazy atm, like I have to do a raw P-dandy pilebunker to avoid losing off of roundstart if she decides to throw S-sword. And if the ram decides to wait on roundstart I still lose. They honestly should make it to where the sword guard crush if you hold down the button but you don't get an explosion and vice versa. But the sword bug is actually stupid.
i get so tired of arcsys. they decide ram needs to be godlike. refused nerfing johnny and barely doing a damn thing to HC's bullet reload time, covering whiffed normals, reloading super, curse that NEEDS to be changed. Meanwhile testament gets a stain grab while everyone else gets to do cool stuff...??? waiting 5 months for a fucking comboable grab...nothing else wtf but goldlewis and jonny get more stuff...screw arcsys lol. revert the lame nerfs...sure it might feel a little good but homies kapel not working, jackos 2d...why did they nerf perfectly good moves. No one really wants that. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HC winning for FREE!!! CHANGE HC!!! how are you cool w/hc but not ram, you all confuse me.
Its about percieved effort. Atleast watching jack play HC is fun. Slayer last patch and ram current patch just slobber on their controllers and win the world.
thoughts on this, domi?: What I don't like is that z a t o gets balanced dis patch like he is a already top tier character. like you would expect a top tier to get a side grade where one thing is taken away that is annoying while a bunch of other things get strengthened. 😊 What z a t o needed was a complete crazy super high power level increase like his fellow bottom tier b a i k e n got. not a side grade Why do they balance my man like he is already a top tier. does Japan rate him as high tier or something?
When he was strong Japan rated him very high. Hes universally known as bottom 3 across all of Season 3 and now 4. Issue is the devs prob don't want newcomers to feel trapped by zato due to the knowledge checks so they just shot him. They balance him like hes the best character in the game.
Play rivals of aether 2 instead of this game. The balance of this game makes any version of guilty first drive look like a joke, including this one or including literally any one
Too many of yall forget that they had to change the whole game because of happy chaos there will never be a more broken character than season 1 un nerfed happy chaos
@pancakes7483 there's a question mark at the end of his title meaning it's a question meaning I can answer it with "season 1 unnerfed happy chaos" love you bestie
In same patch where they nerf ky for no damn reason. Like sure I understand FA loops are bit cringe but cmon no one expect FA to turn from combo tool to comb killer on single use. 6H/DE nerf was unwarranted. They are forcing us to use SS but it doesn't last long enough and often it just expires right when you need it, and to make matters worse FA and SD(2) still consumes SS. Idea is cool but what they did is nothing short of tragic and made ky not only more boring to play but also weaker in environment where other characters are just bullshit blazing. Bring back Scamboling to talk about ky again that would be interesting to see.
Ou i know what i wanna say. Im whining because i suck but i have to guess right 100000 times in 20 seconds and if i dont it just keeps happening. But people have better mix and theres ways to get out. We could argue forever. But the character is fucking strong damnit.
not to hate on anyone or the people who do this, but ive seen people like this state in the game calling it what the game needed, ofc its a new game now and buffs and nerfs come and go but the bugs specifically makes the game less fun, its weird i know where theyre coming from but this is not it for me :/
Considering the fact the games still being patched and supported by the devs I think she should not be banned. Especially considering they're gonna do a bug fix soon as well
"I know how to fight against this character" With all due respect, no you don't. You KNEW how to fight the character. Ram's s sword toss is a confirmed bug, so that's gonna get patched, but everything else is as intended (To my knowledge). I don't know why people thought that they'd be able to fight Ram the same way they've been fighting her when she got such a major rework.
> Ram got the launch codes for nuclear rockets.
> Testament can pop stain with throw btw
Thank you, ArcSys.
The solution is simple. Make everyone happy. Remove testament from the game.
This patch really feels like it wasn't playtested. How does Ram's swordtoss bug make it past basic testing? How does Nago's damage go up? How does Goldlewis? The ideas and vision are there, but the execution feels incredibly rushed and balance is completely out of whack.
@@The_Blazelighter and the funniest part about it is sol and dizzy get a 100meter super, while calvados is a discount 100meter super that costs half and swords
I actually barfed watching Calvados one-shot you in the Flyquest Tourney
MICKEY
omg that was him 😭 help me
To be fair, using calvados is a lot more situational now. Most of Ram's conversions don't work without throwing at least one of her swords, so the amount of times you actually get to use calvados is next to 0.
@@MyNameIsIisan Every time I'm able to use it I forget I can and don't 🫠
@@moirasandwich785 Real.
They updated the bug list to include a lot more. Including ram
Where did you find this?
Nevermind, I found it
Ramlethal has been my favorite character in the game since I started. I love her aesthetic, I love her beast-like moves, I love her quiet demeanor, and I love the giant swords. I think she's so cool- but for some reason it's impossible for Arcsys to balance her or any of the other top tiers right. I genuinely wish she was more like XRD Ram now because her tools as they are seem so, so toxic unless they're straight up bad.
(Also she was just cooler in XRD. I want the button rekka with multiple options back and the ability to set swords like, really bad. Unfortunately Wall Break has been a disaster for the kits of so many characters in this game.)
I like how it feels like this video specifically had a lot more apparent emotion put into it, ram really got people crashing out
Arc sys confirm this morning that the sword trading hits is indeed a bug. THANK GOD
you see but is that a cover up girl,,, cause they in panic mode
Sword toss beating yrc, close enough welcome back old goldlewis drone
This is precisely why we have to play the heros
Til we die
what was supposed to be a new and exciting season that would keep me motivated to keep playing strive has instead gotten me to play sf6 and under night lol (its crazy how refreshing playing a game with sensible damage levels is for once)
Maybe Ram got giga buffed because she was supposedly top tier for the whole game's lifespan yet never won anything. This is the universe balancing itself out by making sure she cannot lose a tourney.
then they nerf'd zato and bedman, bc they were too good. After giving the top tiers yet more +frame extentions bc they need it
I think what is annoying at least at my level, is the fact that the one thing I loved was the flow if throwing and picking up swords. and now that's kind of gone, once I throw a sword I can't pick it back up and that annoys me. that was one of the things I loved and now that's it's gone, even after learning all the broken shit. it doesn't feel fun because they took away one of the major things I loved about playing this character. and it sucks knowing it's not coming back
Now imagine how Ram players from Xrd felt once her Strive version got revealed.
Its exhausting being a Ram main. I just wanna play the character I like, but every time she gets hit with a huge rework to make her something that is supposed to make it nicer for everyone else and it just gets worse. I dont play this game to be liked, but fuck its annoying to have every one of my accomplishments and those of my peers shat on. At this point I'd rather her be bottom 1 so I can actually play the game without some kind of death threat.
The infinite pressure clip is fake as hell though. There are a bunch of ways to get out of that at different points.
Totally get what you mean. Been a Ram player since the game dropped on Xbox, if I play her against my best friend he quits in three matches flat no matter what patch it was. It's infuriating that they haven't decided to kick her in the shins yet so I can play a character people won't whine about being dishonest.
I feel this on a deep, personal, level. I mainly play with friends and it gets tiresome hearing them complain about the character(s) I'm playing and summing their loss up because of arbitray factors like character tier, rather than the evident skill issues and them genuinely not knowing the matchup.
Like I could be playing Jack-O and they'd be complaining about her reversal super despite them mashing meterless reversals during my offense/oki constantly as Leo, Sol and Baiken (S4). Or getting anti-aired by minion throws as if I'm Steph Curry shooting a 3 because I keep catching them over committing with IADs in neuch. Hell, they could pull off the worst reversal super I've ever seen where it wouldn't even land and they still complain it's Jack-O's fault that they didn't hit me.
Yeah absolutely, I've seen 2 reasons given as to why people drop Ramlethal, number 1 being character hate, and number 2 is that pre-season 4 she's honestly been overhyped, and there's better character picks for most people. People could lose for backing into the corner and jumping into sword throw, but win the majority of interactions and burst both her swords away a couple times, then believe they were at a disadvantage the entire time because of how oppressive the corner pressure felt; but at the end of the day, their character actually had numerous advantages (for example a meterless reversal, similar damage, faster buttons, better air to ground and ground to air coverage, better mix, easier reward off charged dust, etc.). I've even played a player near my skill level as Faust versus my main (Ramlethal) and I beat them 40-0, and they still thought Ramlethal was some easy baby "zoner"(?) who didn't have to work for anything. Like, huh? If she was easy, they should've won at least 1 match if we go even or 2-1 with almost any other matchup in the game, right? smh
@griffinfaw5697 the Faust ram matchup is rough though; not as bad as your example, nor does it justify their complaints, but with the tweaks they have been making to both characters I think there has been increasingly more counterplay now more than ever. Some aspects just are... a bit overturned(the only big thing with the matchup is that ram generally has more consistent damage, but faust has items so its fine). With the previous patches though, Twitter hype has just been blown out of proportion.
@retro_crasher True, I was 100% a better Faust than they were a Ramlethal, but I did end up winning 40-0 until he learned a lot more the next day (still lost to me, just not as bad). Ramlethal definitely does have higher consistent damage, and Faust is big (Ramlethal loves this) but a lot of normals Faust snuffed Ram in the games (some are bigger and/or faster than a couple of Ram's, kick and 2H really helps), and scarecrow rc is a surprisingly good teleport, especially if they know you might immediately grab them. However I'd say his main advantage is aerial gameplay? Besides morto, Ramlethal didn't have a lot to do against jumpers. Her 2H isn't reliable, her 6P isn't tall, high sword didn't guard break (and had 20f startup), jump jab could be stubby, jump slash had to be done preemptively, though I did like 2147S (down back into upback immediately into slash buffers her double swing) when applicable. Much worse at punishing jumpy Faust than characters with meterless dps, or taller 6Ps
Parts of me likes this patch in terms of concept because it reminds me of her in Xrd where she had unique playstyles, but now people are already beginning to hate fighting her again like they did three years ago.
Damn i feel your frustration men this patch has been hella tough and idk how everyone else feels but also Sin is also strong
11:12 don't mean to be that guy but I think a couple characters can avoid ram roundstart sword by dash blocking. Ik gio can and she can do it while blocking 2S and 2K
As a testament main, I’m amused at how they put all this attention to buffing Ram and Goldlewis and then for Testament they just nerfed the best move and made stain pops on throws we didn’t need.
With the amount of bugs in this patch it was clearly not properly play tested
Why are we acting like they are not going to fix it? Thats the real question.
I have hundreds of hours in this game, one of my favorites of all time, and dizzy has been my most anticipated character since Goldlewis. Despite all this, haven’t even touched this game since the update since it’s just clown town. Praying for you brother.
Arcsys going from the dbfz patch to this one made it WAY easier to switch to rivals lol
Ramlethal is just too perfect
Even when shes nerfed shes buffed
You can compete
I was playing her after the patch, sucked. Didn't know how to win as my pressure no longer works. Now I wanted to find some guide on UA-cam, sorted by recent and saw this video and saw the corner to corner meterless with a goofy ahh rekka 1 loop at the end. The what? She is FAR LESS intuitive and apparently broken at the same time?
This clip reminding of Xrd ram experience. Since, i play that game offline mostly. I remember how easily Ai could able to bring me corner from round start with her tekken style. If you don't like this one. You probably don't like to fight against Xrd Ram.
and then theres me, a guy who never loses a match against Ram, and never saw one trully good on my celestials
Yeah, no character in the game was able to meterlessly wall to wall off a normal hit until this patch. that officially makes her more broken than 1.0 chaos, cuz at least with chaos it took execution. this is like the devs wanted every ram main to make top 8 in tournament.
Not at all saying it isn't all bullshit in every way and it definitely needs nerfs, but you don't need a 9f far slash to win roundstart. You can jump over the sword and get a full counter hit combo.
Also if you have a low profile 2k or the like you can avoid the s sword in the corner if she gets greedy and doesn't space it out a lot.
That's about all the counterplay I can find. It's not much :(
I still think Happy Chaos in S1 was the strongest Guilty Gear Strive character even better than this version of Ramlethal. I mean he had Slayer damage on any hit, his zonning was godlike, his pressure lasted way longer and was more insane than now, he had more health than this version of Ranlethal, his steady aim shots had insane chip damage. His offence and damage was so good that him having no defence didin't mean anything.
Ramlethal is way too crazy atm, like I have to do a raw P-dandy pilebunker to avoid losing off of roundstart if she decides to throw S-sword. And if the ram decides to wait on roundstart I still lose.
They honestly should make it to where the sword guard crush if you hold down the button but you don't get an explosion and vice versa.
But the sword bug is actually stupid.
i get so tired of arcsys. they decide ram needs to be godlike. refused nerfing johnny and barely doing a damn thing to HC's bullet reload time, covering whiffed normals, reloading super, curse that NEEDS to be changed. Meanwhile testament gets a stain grab while everyone else gets to do cool stuff...??? waiting 5 months for a fucking comboable grab...nothing else wtf but goldlewis and jonny get more stuff...screw arcsys lol.
revert the lame nerfs...sure it might feel a little good but homies kapel not working, jackos 2d...why did they nerf perfectly good moves. No one really wants that. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF HC winning for FREE!!! CHANGE HC!!! how are you cool w/hc but not ram, you all confuse me.
Man i play pot this patch hurts
Its about percieved effort. Atleast watching jack play HC is fun. Slayer last patch and ram current patch just slobber on their controllers and win the world.
This is not a competitive game
thoughts on this, domi?:
What I don't like is that z a t o gets balanced dis patch like he is a already top tier character. like you would expect a top tier to get a side grade where one thing is taken away that is annoying while a bunch of other things get strengthened.
😊 What z a t o needed was a complete crazy super high power level increase like his fellow bottom tier b a i k e n got. not a side grade
Why do they balance my man like he is already a top tier. does Japan rate him as high tier or something?
When he was strong Japan rated him very high. Hes universally known as bottom 3 across all of Season 3 and now 4. Issue is the devs prob don't want newcomers to feel trapped by zato due to the knowledge checks so they just shot him. They balance him like hes the best character in the game.
Play rivals of aether 2 instead of this game. The balance of this game makes any version of guilty first drive look like a joke, including this one or including literally any one
ALSO PLS ADD SAME MOVE PRORATION TO RAM REKKA 1. She should not be able to land 6 in a combo...
Please get Dany in to talk about Ky. That'd be really awesome.
That would be cool!
NOT what i wanted to see before 1v1s with a ram main ☹️
Too many of yall forget that they had to change the whole game because of happy chaos there will never be a more broken character than season 1 un nerfed happy chaos
There is no way you're talking about chaos rn when he's not the issue now. That shit was way before that chaos hate is getting old now lmao
@pancakes7483 there's a question mark at the end of his title meaning it's a question meaning I can answer it with "season 1 unnerfed happy chaos" love you bestie
What if we just reverted Ram back to what she was before? I feel like that'd be pretty nice
This Ram ain´t a week out and bros talking as if it is Smash4 Bayonetta or melee Fox lmao
it is hell
In same patch where they nerf ky for no damn reason. Like sure I understand FA loops are bit cringe but cmon no one expect FA to turn from combo tool to comb killer on single use.
6H/DE nerf was unwarranted. They are forcing us to use SS but it doesn't last long enough and often it just expires right when you need it, and to make matters worse FA and SD(2) still consumes SS. Idea is cool but what they did is nothing short of tragic and made ky not only more boring to play but also weaker in environment where other characters are just bullshit blazing.
Bring back Scamboling to talk about ky again that would be interesting to see.
How strong do you think she’ll be if just the sword toss big is fixed. Still top 1?
top 5
Season 4 gave some love to mid tiers, but let the top tiers turn the game into a borderline kuspge. I can't understand this patch, man.
well its getting patched out soon so your welcome
Ou i know what i wanna say. Im whining because i suck but i have to guess right 100000 times in 20 seconds and if i dont it just keeps happening. But people have better mix and theres ways to get out. We could argue forever. But the character is fucking strong damnit.
not to hate on anyone or the people who do this, but ive seen people like this state in the game calling it what the game needed, ofc its a new game now and buffs and nerfs come and go but the bugs specifically makes the game less fun, its weird i know where theyre coming from but this is not it for me :/
Meanwhile people are still calling johnny top 1
Considering the fact the games still being patched and supported by the devs I think she should not be banned. Especially considering they're gonna do a bug fix soon as well
ban the witch! & let her hawter xrd model be an option as apology
This video is the definition of yapping. 5 minutes in just saying how good she over and over
yes
"I know how to fight against this character" With all due respect, no you don't. You KNEW how to fight the character. Ram's s sword toss is a confirmed bug, so that's gonna get patched, but everything else is as intended (To my knowledge). I don't know why people thought that they'd be able to fight Ram the same way they've been fighting her when she got such a major rework.
the bug changes the way u approach the character. We know how to fight her but sadly shes bugged! takes away ur whole gameplan. DP dont even work lmao