Best Workstation GPUs 2019: Premiere, Blender, & More | RTX 5000 Review

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  • Опубліковано 17 тра 2019
  • We benchmarked professional Quadro, WX, and gaming cards in workstation applications. This looks at the best GPUs for video editing, Blender, & more.
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    Part of what we're looking at today is the performance of AMD's Radeon VII in video editing workloads, hopefully determining if its 16GB framebuffer actually proves useful in professional workloads. This will be compared and contrasted to other cards, like the RTX 5000 Quadro card, the Titan RTX, Radeon Pro WX 8200, RTX 2080 Ti, and more. Our workstation GPU benchmarks look at the best video cards for professional use, including Adobe Premiere, Magix Vegas, Blender, 3DS Max, Maya, financial and cryptography applications, V-Ray, LuxMark, SolidWorks, SiSoft Sandra, and more.
    GPUs TESTED (all links to Amazon):
    NVIDIA Quadro RTX 5000: geni.us/lAZms
    NVIDIA Quadro RTX 4000: geni.us/XYxs
    NVIDIA Titan RTX: geni.us/Tvir
    EVGA RTX 2080 Ti: geni.us/Vo11
    AMD Radeon VII: geni.us/QV3E
    AMD Radeon Pro WX 8200: geni.us/pXG6
    AMD Vega 64: geni.us/RQXnL
    And more
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  5 років тому +36

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    • @charliebrownau
      @charliebrownau 5 років тому

      So its better off getting a Vega 64 then professional Quadro

    • @Delcolux
      @Delcolux 5 років тому

      SpecViewPerf is not a good benchmark for SolidWorks performance. Have a look at @PugetSystems testing. They have found no perf diff between low end and high end quadros. www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2018-GPU-Comparison-What-Is-the-Meaning-of-This-1112/

    • @Delcolux
      @Delcolux 5 років тому

      Your rationale that it must be a good benchmark because both AMD and nVidia feature it, is faulty logic. They feature it because it yields results suggesting that you should spend more money on more powerful cards. In the case of SolidWorks, this is untrue.

    • @KenS1267
      @KenS1267 5 років тому

      @@charliebrownauDepends on the software you use everyday. There's a lot of CUDA specific stuff out there.

    • @mountedpatrolman
      @mountedpatrolman 5 років тому +1

      Great to hear from other members of team GN!

  • @peppybocan
    @peppybocan 5 років тому +583

    Steve was on helium, wasn't he?

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom 5 років тому +9

      lol. I do appreciate Rob from Techgage showing up at GN for some Pro gear test vids. B)

    • @georgeindestructible
      @georgeindestructible 5 років тому +18

      No on LN XD

    • @TryhardTechy
      @TryhardTechy 5 років тому +8

      it sounds like Steve on helium, his balls chopped off and his nose plugged while half being able to pronounce words properly. it's terrible.

    • @Fists91
      @Fists91 5 років тому +6

      They just sped up the audio because of all the burns at Linus' roast

    • @AlexanderKalish
      @AlexanderKalish 5 років тому +1

      Actually, Steve's voice is also high and it all just comes down to a particular speech habit.

  • @unlikelyoutcome3012
    @unlikelyoutcome3012 5 років тому +173

    Timestamps
    Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2019 RED 8K to 4K 2:49
    Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2019 AVC 3:29
    MAGIX Vegas Pro 16.361 Playback Framerate 4:01
    MAGIX Vegas Pro 16.361 Encode Time 4:43
    Autodesk Arnold Jaguar 5:40
    Autodesk Arnold Sophie 6:15
    AMD Radeon Pro Render 2.4.404 GT-R 6:56
    AMD Radeon Pro Render 2.4.404 Villa 7:27
    Blender 2.80.51 Viewport 1080p LookDev 8:40
    Blender 2.80.51 Viewport 4K LookDev 8:55
    Blender 2.80.51 BMW Cycles Render 9:24
    Blender 2.80.51 Classroom Cycles Render 9:51
    LuxMark 3.1 Luxball 10:17
    LuxMark 3.1 Hotel 10:50
    Chaos Group V-Ray 4.10.02 Flowers 11:44
    Chaos Group V-Ray 4.10.02 Teaset 12:13
    Redshift 2.6.23 12:39
    OctaneBench 4.00c 13:03
    OctaneBench 2019 RTX 13:34
    Autodesk 3ds Max (SPECViewPerf 13) 14:23
    Autodesk Maya (SPECViewPerf 13) 4K 14:57
    Dassault Systemes CATIA (SPECViewPerf 13) 15:35
    Dassault Systemes SolidWorks 16:14
    PTC Creo 16:33
    Siemens NX 17:12
    SiSoftware Sandra 2018 SP4a Cryptography 17:41
    SiSoftware Sandra 2018 SP4a Financial 18:27
    SiSoftware Sandra 2018 SP4a Scientific 19:02
    UL Firestrike 4K 19:41
    UL TimeSpy 4K 20:00
    UL VR Benchmark 20:07

  • @alexandermckay8594
    @alexandermckay8594 5 років тому +420

    Strangely enough, all that convinced me how good a deal the Radeon 7 is!

    • @gbitencourt
      @gbitencourt 5 років тому +8

      According to AdoredTV and Coreteks that is the reason why they are standing behind in gaming launches.

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy 5 років тому +21

      the radeon 7 is a good deal , thats why :D

    • @ericliu8434
      @ericliu8434 5 років тому +25

      But it isnt faster overall compared to its two direct competitors, the 2080 and 1080 ti. Cards that you would say arent good deals, so what makes vega the good deal in this scenario? In fact, anything above a 1660 ti is a bad deal, considering how minimal the performance gains are above that. But out of all the cards here, you single out radeon 7 as the card with the value. Absolutely bizzare.

    • @schwarziex3563
      @schwarziex3563 5 років тому +63

      @@ericliu8434 That highly depends on your workload. And i saw several charts in this video where the Radion VII was actually leading the pack. and that for a similar price as a 2080 and way below a Quadro is quite the bargain. Magicx, Luxmark, parts of Specviewperf Siemens NX etc. In all these the Radeon VIII outperforms the other gamingcards and sometimes even the professional ones which actually makes it quite the bargain. All depends on your workload though.

    • @ericliu8434
      @ericliu8434 5 років тому +13

      @@schwarziex3563 Luxmark is a benchmark only, you cant create anything with it. And there were plenty of other applications where the 1080 ti let alone the 2080 were ahead of the radeon 7. I dont believe that any of these aforementioned cards are exceptional value for pro work, but I've yet to see a single rtx 2080 or 1080 ti owner make a point about the pro value their card has. Yet plenty of radeon 7 owners, compensating for the underwhelming gaming performance perhaps? Yeah thats probably it.

  • @Thesinistereyes1
    @Thesinistereyes1 5 років тому +118

    Radeon 7 is a jack of all trades at a higher level.
    People talk trash about it but in reality its better than most GPU at a broader spectrum of workloads including gaming.
    VII has solid performance all around no arguments.

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy 5 років тому +33

      Its the threadripper of the GPU world . Not on top in any one thing but very good at everything.

    • @crookim
      @crookim 5 років тому +11

      It does have double precision, useless for gaming, but gold for workload!

    • @jeffreywarf
      @jeffreywarf 5 років тому +1

      Too bad it's too loud and too hot compared to its direct competition.
      Don't say "undervolt" because not all of them have equal undervolting capabilities. Out of the box performance with no fiddling is all that matters.

    • @Thesinistereyes1
      @Thesinistereyes1 5 років тому +6

      @@jeffreywarf All of them has an auto undervolt button(it takes 1 click to do) and a fan slider that could be adjusted...
      What do you mean too hot? My card never goes above 61c ... what you are thinking of is junction temperature which is not representative of real temps.
      The reason it's loud is the auto fan mode responding to junction temp instead of letting the real temps go to 70-80c but junction will say its 90-100c
      Think of it kinda like the temperature offset on Ryzen X cpu's those high temps are not an accurate representation of what it currently is. There is about a 20-30 degree difference between Junction and real temps.
      Just like Ryzen the first time temps got recorded everyone freaked out cause its really high but in reality it wasn't it's just so they can boost their clocks more... no different than radeon VII

    • @jeffreywarf
      @jeffreywarf 5 років тому

      @@Thesinistereyes1 is that out of the box performance? No. Because you need to adjust it in wattman. I said NO fiddling. Plus, what if your card won't undervolt? Because a LOT of them won't because of the silicon lottery.

  • @Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima
    @Foxtrot_Foxtrot_Lima 5 років тому +99

    This guy sounds like Nile Red with a cold!

    • @Uxcis
      @Uxcis 4 роки тому +1

      I was wondering why that voice sounded so familiar...!

  • @ianmelzer
    @ianmelzer 5 років тому +133

    When did Gamers Nexus hire Nile Red for voice-over work?

    • @bearriver685
      @bearriver685 5 років тому +2

      I got a good belly laugh from that one. Thanks

    • @veemyu
      @veemyu 5 років тому +5

      I though the same thing I was like wait a minute that sounds like NileRed

    • @xDmparto
      @xDmparto 5 років тому

      Blast it with the heat gun...

    • @RobWilliamsTG
      @RobWilliamsTG 5 років тому +9

      The last time I did a video here, people said the same thing. I finally had to check him out, and yeah... I actually agree completely. It's weird hearing myself. His subjects are a little out of my element though ;-)

    • @Mythricia1988
      @Mythricia1988 5 років тому

      OH damn, I didn't even realize how similar they sound until I read this. You're right!

  • @bootyconsumer6150
    @bootyconsumer6150 5 років тому +197

    Me: Damn, I've been wandering which GPU I should get for my work station....
    UA-cam: Gamers Nexus had uploaded a new video
    Nice

    • @SonGoku-mj5pq
      @SonGoku-mj5pq 5 років тому +2

      Illuminati, they're listening!

    • @SoFZlodei24
      @SoFZlodei24 5 років тому +6

      Not illuminati. It's tech jesus who cares about his people.

    • @casyhd463
      @casyhd463 5 років тому +3

      Get the Radeon VII best price for performance

    • @Artkidtek
      @Artkidtek 4 роки тому

      So what did you end up getting?

  • @andreasmass4492
    @andreasmass4492 5 років тому +3

    As a 3D artist this video was extremely helpful and I'm beyond grateful. This must've taken an incredible amount of time and money. You guys never cease to impress.

  • @DrMcCoJack
    @DrMcCoJack 5 років тому +2

    Holy Crap so much work! This is awesome as I'm working on setting up a room of multipurpose machines and this is exactly what I needed to see! Thank you so much!

  • @dongurudebro4579
    @dongurudebro4579 5 років тому +165

    Damn Radeon VII looks like to be exceptional value most of the times, but yeah AMD its totally a gaming card ^^

    • @ericliu8434
      @ericliu8434 5 років тому +3

      Its roughly equal to its two direct competitors, the 1080 ti and 2080 even in workstation task's. So I'm afraid it has no real value advantage even here.

    • @SpinneretteAlex
      @SpinneretteAlex 5 років тому +14

      @@ericliu8434 well if you need a gpu for macos then it gets an advantage lol

    • @FlicX
      @FlicX 5 років тому +5

      @@ericliu8434 2080 Ti*

    • @ericliu8434
      @ericliu8434 5 років тому +4

      @@FlicX incorrecto

    • @AstolfoGayming
      @AstolfoGayming 5 років тому +5

      @@FlicX It's a competitor to the 2080, not the 2080ti in games. How drunk are you?

  • @dixonsoftwaresolutions5031
    @dixonsoftwaresolutions5031 5 років тому

    I find it hard to overstate how much I appreciated this video. Great work!

  • @VeNkATesHDXTS
    @VeNkATesHDXTS 5 років тому +1

    I have a project going on for building a PC for an architect designer and I was confused whether to get gaming gpu or workstation gpu .... This video helped me to get the GPU performance of various cards for various softwares !!
    Thank you gamernexus !

  • @mendics
    @mendics 5 років тому

    thank you for doing this, I dont see a lot of coverage when it comes to workstation benchmarks and coverage.

  • @Saxie81
    @Saxie81 5 років тому +3

    Nile red is that you? Gj Rob. This was very well done

  • @caiocc12
    @caiocc12 5 років тому +79

    Didn't know NileRed was moonlighting as a tech reviewer.

    • @jeyendeoso
      @jeyendeoso 5 років тому +3

      my exact thoughts. have my thumbs up.

    • @themagiceye6723
      @themagiceye6723 5 років тому +1

      I reckon there's a bit of Langley from the Lone Gunman on the X-Files in there too!

    • @kat5607
      @kat5607 5 років тому

      are you sure the narrator is NileRed?

    • @NicolaiSyvertsen
      @NicolaiSyvertsen 5 років тому +1

      Steve better get ready for some chemistry lessons now.

  • @JacobdelaRosa
    @JacobdelaRosa 5 років тому +44

    Out of curiousity why isn't Davinci Resolve covered in this?

    • @RobWilliamsTG
      @RobWilliamsTG 5 років тому +7

      My collection is entirely independent from Steve's, so this is my reasoning, not his. You need the paid version of Resolve in order to unlock all of its performance features. There's a comparison doc on Blackmagic's website showing what's lacking in the free version. 100% of the software I benchmark with is provided by the vendor, and BM doesn't appear to have the same level of interest in benchmarking as other companies do. And it sucks, because its oft-suggested. It could still happen at some point in the future, so don't be afraid to suggest what kind of test is important to you.

    • @muf1772
      @muf1772 5 років тому +9

      So at the very least test the free version. I'm sure if you reach out to Blackmagic Design they will be happy to provide a key.

    • @RobWilliamsTG
      @RobWilliamsTG 5 років тому +7

      @@muf1772 I have gone back and forth with the company many times about it. But you are right, I will work on a test for next time.

    • @JacobdelaRosa
      @JacobdelaRosa 5 років тому +4

      @rob many thanks! That's so bizzare that they aren't willing to work with you on that. I have a full copy of resolve and it would be awesome to see the key differences in software design and hardware usage betwlween resolve and premiere. Because from what I've seen both programs are completely different animals and utilize hardware in their own way.

  • @aabbccddeeff7749
    @aabbccddeeff7749 5 років тому +43

    Please state the price of the card at the START of the article
    and provide price / performance charts.

    • @aabbccddeeff7749
      @aabbccddeeff7749 5 років тому +5

      @Damian Chiliński yeah tell that to my boss

  • @bordmike
    @bordmike 5 років тому

    Great Video love to see these workstation tests once in a while

  • @Rocketeer6
    @Rocketeer6 4 роки тому

    thank you so much for these comparisons. I needed this video badly!

  • @tormaid42
    @tormaid42 5 років тому +2

    Easily the best pro-focused video you’ve ever done. Kudos for bringing in an expert.

  • @Magmafire
    @Magmafire 5 років тому +16

    Thank you for including Vegas. It's typically ignored from too many benchmarks. I'm glad it made an appearance and has definitely helped me decide my next GPU.

    • @ttebroc236
      @ttebroc236 5 років тому +2

      ^ *proceeds to buy a gtx1050*

  • @loremipsum5697
    @loremipsum5697 5 років тому

    These benchmarks must of taken ages to compile but thank you for your hard work this really help people that are into workstations a lot.

  • @stijndederper6326
    @stijndederper6326 5 років тому

    I love the soundcard ad. It's very funny 🤣

  • @bassbatterer
    @bassbatterer 5 років тому +1

    Nice to hear other members of the GN team.

  • @Techgage
    @Techgage 5 років тому +11

    That guy sounds SO familiar. Cheers for having him do a vid!

    • @ttebroc236
      @ttebroc236 5 років тому

      Do I have to go to PirateBay and download Resolve for you? lol

    • @veemyu
      @veemyu 5 років тому

      This guy sounds like NileRed :D

    • @veemyu
      @veemyu 5 років тому

      But it’s you

    • @Pixel_FX
      @Pixel_FX 4 роки тому

      @Techgage well well, didn't expect to find ya here. Could you do some Blender benchmarks using Dual GPU setups? Like Dual 5700, Dual 2060Super. I want to see if midrange dual gpus can outperform top end 2080ti / titan cards.

  • @RobertShaverOfAustin
    @RobertShaverOfAustin 5 років тому +7

    That's an amazing collection of data and even more amazing analysis of that data. In the future I'd love to see you run your tests against the studio version of Black Magic Design's DaVinci Resolve covering rendering, transcoding and any other GPU intensive jobs. An alternative might be to let us know which of your tests would be most applicable to DaVinci. From some of what I've read, DaVinci "likes" GPUs different from Premiere Pro et. al. Thanks for a first rate channel.

  • @danshannon1001
    @danshannon1001 5 років тому

    incredibly in-depth video love your, content keep it up !!!

  • @pmpcmartins
    @pmpcmartins Рік тому

    We need a new video on this subject! :) Thank you for your excellent reviews!

  • @KingHalbatorix
    @KingHalbatorix 5 років тому +39

    wow, radeon vii performed consistently great and it's a far cheaper option than most other cards on the board

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 5 років тому

      Also the hottest card on the market, unless you buy the waterblock for it... Which brings it's price up to around the same as the other cards anyway. xD

    • @WinterCharmVT
      @WinterCharmVT 5 років тому

      Yeah, it's a great card.

    • @James-qu6ul
      @James-qu6ul 5 років тому +11

      @@MyouKyuubi It's not that bad. Temps for this card are measured as junction temps, which are higher. It's still rather hot and uses more power, but it's not as big of a deal as people make it out to be.

    • @KingHalbatorix
      @KingHalbatorix 5 років тому +6

      Madao the first part is true, but a low-end radeon vii can be found for about $650 and you don't actually need a custom block, just a big enough AIO and airflow over the VRM with maybe some cheap stick on heatsinks. I doubt you could find a 2080ti or any of the rtx quadros for under $900 at this point in time. prices do fluctuate, but amd cards have a habit of becoming much cheaper much faster after launch and then staying that way.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 5 років тому

      @@KingHalbatorix Well the standard price for R7 is 700 dollahs, right? And if i remember correctly, the waterblock for it is around 100-200 dollahs... I could be remembering things wrong, but anyways, that brings the price of the card, in total, to 900-ish dollahs, which is roughly the price for a standard 2080, right?
      2080 Ti's are more expensive than the regular 2080's, 1200 somewhere i believe?
      You do get about the same performance as a 2080 Ti, for the price of a regular 2080... so i guess it is technically cheaper with R7, but by no means cheap, lol.
      Also, not everybody is as confident in their ability to improvise a cooling block for their R7 without voiding warranty or destroying the card completely. So whilst it is possible to do what you suggested, it's not a reliable, and therefore, not a viable option for your average gamer, for example. So i don't consider it a valid suggestion for the purposes of this argument. : /

  • @alidollar1994
    @alidollar1994 5 років тому +1

    I don't care who does these reviews as long as we get to hear Steve's voice even as short as the advert.
    BTW i enjoyed this review as well :)

  • @TUNYMUSIC
    @TUNYMUSIC 5 років тому

    Thank you for the test and review.

  • @pixunPL
    @pixunPL 5 років тому

    Gr8 video like always. Thank you for your hard work.

  • @matthewkuhl79
    @matthewkuhl79 5 років тому

    *YES!* These _are_ the droids i've been looking for.

  • @Noine14159145
    @Noine14159145 5 років тому

    Love this. Please give us more of this. 🙏

  • @catalystguitarguy
    @catalystguitarguy 5 років тому +51

    was the radeon VII running the stock gaming drivers or the Pro Driver set?

    • @ttebroc236
      @ttebroc236 5 років тому

      It's more of a Mode than "the Driver" My Vega FE forces my Vii in to Pro Driver mode.

  • @dongurudebro4579
    @dongurudebro4579 5 років тому +16

    That was one hell of a review, thats what i like to see; great job!

    • @alymuni
      @alymuni 5 років тому +1

      Yes agreed

  • @BrianMcKee
    @BrianMcKee 5 років тому +88

    Radeon VII is the average man's workstation card it seems. I don't know how the others can compare for the money.

    • @TheDoomerBlox
      @TheDoomerBlox 5 років тому +3

      I certainly do not like how this video seems to be talking from the point of having a blank check for all your hardware needs.

    • @yvalson6534
      @yvalson6534 5 років тому +6

      @@TheDoomerBlox well because most of these cards will be bought by companies buying maybe 50 or more in one go and they might do thousands of renders every day so they greatly benefit from every 5 to 50 seconds they can get. Also having the better qualifications and tested cards. So there might defenitely be benefits. Heck even a single person who does this as his job will probably get the extra cost out of the more expensive cards

    • @WinterCharmVT
      @WinterCharmVT 5 років тому +6

      better value for sure, unless you *need* CUDA.

    • @yvalson6534
      @yvalson6534 5 років тому

      @@WinterCharmVT not if you need but of you can make use of. Because if you can you should it's a very good API

    • @0xCAFEF00D
      @0xCAFEF00D 5 років тому

      ​@@TheDoomerBlox When you make money off what you're doing with the hardware you can probably afford a difference like this. Taking a break to upgrade your computer can also be way more costly than it seems.

  • @veruzzzz
    @veruzzzz 5 років тому

    Thanks for this! Finally, no stupid game benchmarks. There should be more videos like this. You could go more deeper regarding Blender Cycles.. there is so many options/optimalizations available. I would pay for a more detailed analysis by your team!

  • @DestroyerMariko
    @DestroyerMariko 4 роки тому

    Awesome video, thanks so much, it's very helpful!

  • @VaibhavSoni
    @VaibhavSoni 4 роки тому

    full of information, thank you.👍

  • @calab777
    @calab777 5 років тому +1

    👋 Hi Gamers Nexus!
    Thank you so much for including Vegas Pro!
    For a few months I had been searching the internet regarding GPU information related to Vegas Pro when it comes to timeline and render performance. In my own experience, my RX 460 (lower end XFX model) beat the pants of my GTX 1070 (Asus Strix) when it came to both time by a very noticeable difference, and in rendering by a small margin. When researching the issue, it took a lot of digging to find Magix used OpenCL for accelerating the program. Also, in all my digging, I couldn’t find any charts on the internet that reflected what I was seeing performance wise of a 1070 vs 460 in OpenCL. Well my 460 has crapped out and due to some other things I was looking for another GPU. One that could play ARK Survival Evolved well and have good performance in Magix Vegas Pro. ARK is a poorly optimized game and my friends Vega 56 struggled to stay above 45 FPS on mostly high settings (where I kept my 1070 and got mostly 60 to 80)
    I didn’t know how the RTX 20XX cards would perform in Magix and was very hesitant to get one because of how my GTX performed. So I finally decided to take a leap of faith and get the Radeon VII. I don’t have the card yet, but your video came out only a few hours after I bought the card. I felt very reassured when I saw its placement compared to the RTX and GTX cards in your Vegas Pro testing.
    Again, thank you so much for including Vegas Pro! 👍

    • @RobWilliamsTG
      @RobWilliamsTG 5 років тому +1

      Thanks a lot for the feedback. When I've talked to MAGIX about the issue, it's just been brushed off. NVIDIA's looked into it, but I've again never heard more about it, and I've been going back and forth with both since December. I am at the point where I believe if better NVIDIA performance comes, it's going to be a surprise to everyone.

    • @calab777
      @calab777 5 років тому

      @@RobWilliamsTG At the very least, Magix did something. When Sony owned the IP, they just let video acceleration go to the way side. From what I found, under Sony, it was so bad that people were buying cards like the GTX 650 because it didn't support any newer cards. In VP 16 Magix added GPU acceleration back in and at least it supports the newer cards, even if it's not quite to the speed some people would like.
      I failed to mention, my workflow is 1080p. I don't have any 4K displays. Not that I would ask you guys to change your testing. I only wish to be complete with my comments. AND I'm just happy that you guys included both timeline and render performance for VP :)
      I personally will stick with Magix for now because it is a one time fee. Pay it once and I own the program. I don't make any money off of my video editing, so financially it wouldn't be a good strategy for me to pay a subscription to Adobe.
      Again, thank you and keep up the good work!

  • @bohdan_lvov
    @bohdan_lvov 5 років тому +5

    Finally you've switched to Blender 2.8, congrats!

  • @manbearpigsereal
    @manbearpigsereal 5 років тому +6

    My takeaway from this is that Radeon VII is a fantastic general-use card, not the greatest (except in some cases like Vegas pro) but does well enough in almost everything.
    Hard to go wrong with it, especially for its price.

    • @Kathdath
      @Kathdath 5 років тому

      As soon as their is a custom cooler card that is quieter than stock, I will be buting one.
      Heck if Raijintek release their new Morpheus first I will just get one of those.

  • @udaPeneliti
    @udaPeneliti 5 років тому

    Do more of these please.... incorporating more mid-range gpu will be a good bonus..

  • @InfraredVisuals
    @InfraredVisuals 5 років тому

    Great coverage.

  • @bmccrayusa
    @bmccrayusa 5 років тому

    Thank You, this was awesome info

  • @jeffreylevin9728
    @jeffreylevin9728 5 років тому

    Most excellent. Thanks for this content.

  • @swag-cc4uc
    @swag-cc4uc 5 років тому +1

    Finally, a use for the Radeon 7!

  • @leonardopinheiro6693
    @leonardopinheiro6693 4 роки тому

    Excelent video, thank you!

  • @mrnix1001
    @mrnix1001 5 років тому

    Yay for this content!!

  • @Quad_Awesome
    @Quad_Awesome 5 років тому +10

    Nothing against Steve, But it was nice hearing a different voice for this.

    • @vh-ali_n-teen
      @vh-ali_n-teen 4 роки тому

      Maybe next to him was hot muscle naked guy poster and that might intimidated him a bit .

  • @Prash1c
    @Prash1c 5 років тому

    Thanks for covering Blender! :)

  • @alymuni
    @alymuni 5 років тому +2

    Before I watch this video I wanted to say THANK YOU!!
    Ok now let me see this beauty

    • @alymuni
      @alymuni 5 років тому

      Perfect looovvveee to see more reviews like this.

    • @Techgage
      @Techgage 5 років тому

      What a coincidence to find you over here! ;-)

    • @alymuni
      @alymuni 5 років тому +1

      @@Techgage just a tech lover :)

  • @vladbobe26
    @vladbobe26 5 років тому +1

    Great benchmarking video, waiting for a long time on a fresh one. I wish you'd include davinci resolve encoding along the premiere cc one, for us that are crossing over. Thank you again

  • @HughGBols
    @HughGBols 5 років тому

    Finally, GN video featuring TechJudas!

  • @petrosianus
    @petrosianus 3 роки тому

    great video!

  • @ttebroc236
    @ttebroc236 5 років тому +6

    Pro drivers with 10 bit Colour Depth also not mentioned with Radeon Vii - As far as Pro Driver vs Regular Driver I haven't been able to see a difference but I didn't really look yet either, other than the obvious Driver overclocking with Wattman.

  • @james1seattle
    @james1seattle 4 роки тому

    Nice video. Thank you.

  • @rinusworldzm
    @rinusworldzm 5 років тому +1

    GN, thank you for this video. I've been stuck on the 2080Ti and now my stuck is justified. For both gaming and work... with this info, the 2080Ti for me is the best value card.

  • @Dia1Up
    @Dia1Up 5 років тому +3

    Are you from New Brunswick? -A fellow Canadian.....
    I'm still under the notion that Vega was gaming second. It proper compute workloads, Vega really comes into its own. The Lightroom "enhance details" makes my Vega work pure magic

    • @russtilley3416
      @russtilley3416 5 років тому +1

      Definitely east coast - I was thinking Newfoundland.

    • @RobWilliamsTG
      @RobWilliamsTG 5 років тому

      Are you a wizard? I am indeed from NB. You are right about Vega... AMD just has to keep promoting it as a gaming card to capture that market. It really is a good jack-of-all-trades card.

  • @monocore
    @monocore 5 років тому

    Well i've been thinking about building a rig with a 2070, and now I know that it performs quite nicely in arnold. Too bad the ram is still a limiting factor. Good info.

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland 5 років тому

    use vegas pro for my YT renders along with an RX580. The actual amount of card usage isn't much but makes a massive difference to the encode time. It nicely makes use of the ryzen cores as well.

  • @NVMDSTEvil
    @NVMDSTEvil 5 років тому +17

    Why didnt you run the Radeon Pro drivers for the Vega II to test vs the gaming drivers? EDIT - Is there a way to tell SVP13 to not disable non-native resolutions? I cannot select the 4K tests unfortunately as my monitor is 3840x1080. Is it possible through the debug console to disable non-native resolution support being turned off? It looks like it may be possible but I am not much of a coder so.. For what its worth some of the numbers look wrong after running the benchmark myself on my Vega FE.

    • @ttebroc236
      @ttebroc236 5 років тому

      Do you have Radeon Pro Image Boost turned on in the Display section of driver settings? It should rescale for you, maybe.

    • @NVMDSTEvil
      @NVMDSTEvil 5 років тому

      @@ttebroc236 Image boost only "enhances" image quality as far as I have read in the documentation. SVP13 reads your desktop display resolutions and disables anything not available. With an nV card you can get around this using using custom resolutions but the methods with AMD uses to create custom resolutions do not work the same and will not let you get around this.

    • @ttebroc236
      @ttebroc236 5 років тому

      @@NVMDSTEvil for example I can game at 5k with my Vega FE on my 4k monitor(image Boost resizes down to 4k), the program you have I guess doesn't allow it.

    • @NVMDSTEvil
      @NVMDSTEvil 5 років тому

      @@ttebroc236 I cant even turn the feature on in Radeon Pro Settings.

    • @MrChomiq
      @MrChomiq 5 років тому

      "The company today released a clarification on the matter, and explained that while it's true that some Radeon Pro features are being enabled, such as enterprise-grade security, standard feature-set, and Pro-grade driver stability; key features such as 3D application certifications and optimizations are being excluded. These would be the features you pay top-Dollar to buy Radeon Pro or competing NVIDIA Quadro products for." So according to AMD itself there would be no uplift in 3D performance with Pro driver.

  • @SurelyYewJest
    @SurelyYewJest 3 роки тому

    As someone who got their undergrad in multimedia production using video and 3D, what I'm amazed by is the fact that 23 years after the question was asked: "Is it possible to have a gaming- AND modeling-capable video card?", the answer remains: "Ehh....kinda, yes...?" All the cores in the world, the fastest memory, inline processing, and the answer is still "well it won't do anything for you in OpenGL applications."

  • @mattys3248
    @mattys3248 5 років тому

    Fantastic!
    1080ti still more than relevant yay!

  • @DaveStromberger
    @DaveStromberger 5 років тому

    Thanks for testing with Blender 2.80!

  • @Fastsim
    @Fastsim 5 років тому +4

    A new voice steps into the light!
    And it's a good one too!

  • @InderjeetSingh-im3eh
    @InderjeetSingh-im3eh 5 років тому +1

    I like the expansion of the GN testing methodology. I am curious if the SisSoft Sandra Scientific test is representative of the workunits available through BOINC. Also is there an opinion on the Drystone and Whetsone benchmarks that is in built with BOINC?

  • @rjeez95
    @rjeez95 5 років тому

    GAAAMING TESSSTTTT lol, I have an RTX 6000 on the way so thanks for posting this, its hard to find any information on these Quadro cards

  • @robertjif6337
    @robertjif6337 5 років тому

    idk if there is a way to compare this, but please do this kind of video for IDE like visual studio/android studio ect
    amazing work as always guys

  • @derptyderp5287
    @derptyderp5287 5 років тому

    This gives me hope for future AMD gpu's.

  • @mrle0719
    @mrle0719 5 років тому +1

    I am wondering about davinci resolve performance. Else really interesting. Keep up with that kind of content!

    • @TasteofTaboo
      @TasteofTaboo 5 років тому

      for resolve just buy the vega 7, or vega 64 - best bang for bug

  • @Kirinketsu_
    @Kirinketsu_ 5 років тому +3

    You should have added a GTX 580 to the Vegas Pro test, it was outperforming the GTX 1080Ti in render time because it is the last GPU using the CUDA cores that Vegas supports, would have been nice to see if any newer updates might have changed that but I doubt it.
    Sony believed Nvidia should pay them or be the ones to recode their software to support their new CUDA codex, not sure if that has changed since Magix took over or if the Nvidia CUDA settings are still openCL like it had been.

  • @aalfouzan
    @aalfouzan 4 роки тому

    Thank you. I just cancelled my Quadro RTX5000 order and replaced it with Titan RTX because of this review!

  • @johnbuscher
    @johnbuscher 5 років тому +3

    >Vegas Pro is AMD territory
    I've never been happier to discover this. I wonder if the version of Vegas Pro from Humble Bundle will play well with my Radeon VII.

  • @elahn_i
    @elahn_i 5 років тому

    Awesome, thanks! Please add Davinci Resolve to future benchmarks.

  • @drmindriot
    @drmindriot 4 роки тому

    This is an excellent video. Do you think the RTX 5000 MAX-Q in the new Razer Blade Studio Edition will offer decent performance for a laptop?

  • @ChristianStout
    @ChristianStout 5 років тому +2

    How would the WX 9100 stack up with the rest? Between the WX 8200 and V64, or between the V64 and RVII?

  • @lvseka
    @lvseka 4 роки тому

    I wish there was an Archicad/Revit section and elevation open test included as well as Lumion/ Twinmotion to give architects an idea of how the GPUs perform.

  • @thedarknightnicht
    @thedarknightnicht 5 років тому +3

    Why didnt you test the new Instinct cards? Like the Mi60?

  • @M1Ms88
    @M1Ms88 5 років тому

    Great Coverage from Microsoft Sam

  • @samghost13
    @samghost13 5 років тому

    AMD Vega 64 / 56 are really nice cards. I have both and i'am very happy and i got them new for a price that no other card can match them!

  • @cybercat1531
    @cybercat1531 5 років тому +2

    So when will you be reviewing that Nu Audio sound card? Funny Ad :D

    • @giglioflex
      @giglioflex 5 років тому

      Audio cards might be outside GN's testing capabilities. I don't believe they have equipment to test things like Signal to noise ratio, noise floor, ect. Not to mention many qualities of a sound card are often subjective.

  • @CuteLittleMiku
    @CuteLittleMiku 5 років тому

    Informational thank u.

  • @MLGJuggernautgaming
    @MLGJuggernautgaming 5 років тому

    Steve gave away the spotlight

  • @mytube001
    @mytube001 5 років тому +3

    NileRed, is that you? ;) Very similar voice and speaking style.

    • @BRUXXUS
      @BRUXXUS 5 років тому +1

      HAHA! I JUST commented the same thing! I spent half the video thinking, "WHO does this remind me of?!"

  • @Matthewv1998
    @Matthewv1998 5 років тому +4

    Vega. May not top charts in games. But its got no problem throwing punches when work needs to get done

  • @downwiththatsortofthing624
    @downwiththatsortofthing624 5 років тому +3

    Will you be reviewing the sound card that's advertising on your channel? What does it do for $250 that my $100 Soundblaster Zx doesn't, and why on earth does it have S/PDIF Out on a modern sound card, as optical downgrades hi-res (Atmos/DTS-HA MA etc) audio?

  • @tomdchi12
    @tomdchi12 5 років тому +2

    That EVGA sound card ad... totally missed by not putting Steve in a squarish-modern armchair with a floor lamp next to him. (Aka, the Maxell "blown away" ad.)

    • @ttebroc236
      @ttebroc236 5 років тому

      Best they had was a cheap bluetooth sound bar and a folding ikea chair.... it looses something in translation.

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS 5 років тому +3

    This guy's voice and speech patterns remind me so much of NileRed. Half the video I was thinking, "Who does this sound like?!"
    Edit: Apparently I'm not the only one that thought that! haha

  • @wadoryujh
    @wadoryujh 5 років тому

    This content is great as s lot of viewers will work as well

  • @bobbybobman3073
    @bobbybobman3073 5 років тому +33

    Who is this new voice? I feel bad for not knowing ... Steve is finally running out of hours in the day.

    • @enby-girl5020
      @enby-girl5020 5 років тому

      I believe his name is Rob and he's one of the writers/editors

    • @quantumbubbles2106
      @quantumbubbles2106 5 років тому +3

      @@enby-girl5020 -> 0:03 Rob Williams

    • @jasongooden917
      @jasongooden917 5 років тому +3

      Riley from LTT

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou 5 років тому +1

      probably making some videos to upload while they are headed to computex.

    • @MrChomiq
      @MrChomiq 5 років тому +1

      Computex is coming up, plus Rob sounds like the go to guy for workstation load review

  • @TimestormFilms
    @TimestormFilms 5 років тому +2

    Whenever I see Premiere Pro (or AE tbh) in a benchmark I know that it's software-bottlenecked. For real, it doesn't use more than 6-8 cores, use gpu only for certain effects and codecs. It's the worst at using a computers full performance (as confirmed by this video). Please also test some real high-end applications like DaVinci resolve, which eats GPU's for breakfast, or Lightroom image sequence rendering to TIFF16bit which uses every single CPU core you throw at it.

    • @torjusaanderaa3749
      @torjusaanderaa3749 3 роки тому

      as a long time premiere and AE user i am very sad to have to agree with this comment :'( adobe really need to get their act together soon, cause this is just getting ridiculous. Im not completly sold on resolve as a viable option to AE when it comes to capabilities and available plugins and resources. but if they can't fix their rendering engine soon they are really gonna loose their relavance, cause rendertimes cost you too.

  • @alexandresoaresdasilva1966
    @alexandresoaresdasilva1966 5 років тому

    It'd be cool if you guys tested deep learning tasks within the GPU workstation test batch. Radeon VII's 16gb of VRAM probably makes it a good value against Nvidia cards.

  • @joncepet
    @joncepet 5 років тому +1

    Nice voice! I like it!

  • @PalladianPD
    @PalladianPD 5 років тому

    This sort of stuff really piques my interest. I guy Titan RTX if you want the best all rounder, Radeon VII if you need cheap.

  • @antonievandermeer34
    @antonievandermeer34 5 років тому

    Can you add some of these workstations tests to the test suite would be very interesting for when a new generation probably Navi launches

  • @a_saker
    @a_saker 5 років тому +8

    While the RTX 5000 is decent, but it honestly makes the Titan RTX look even better for not much more money. Titan once again is a really good card if it is something you actually needs.

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged 5 років тому +2

      The Titan doesn't have ECC and the certified drivers

    • @RymeofDawn
      @RymeofDawn 5 років тому +1

      @@Supcharged Yeah but I feel that it's only important for businesses. Regular people who do both gaming and any type of content creation would be extremely happy with a 2080ti or Titan RTX since it's as good if not better then the RTX 5000 in most tests.

  • @SuperSilvi1990
    @SuperSilvi1990 5 років тому

    So is it like gaming when you add a second card via NV link, SLI, or crossfire where you don't get perfect scaling? I've been looking for videos on this but I've had no luck.
    I ordered a second used 1080ti to help out in some 3d work in blender because I figured that if it needs the extra performance to render it would utilize the second card because its just calculations. I also wonder if SLI would work great with brute forcing Ray Tracing since its on pascal now?