Watch this BEFORE buying an AMD CPU! - Every RAM Speed Tested
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Everyone knows Ryzen LOVES fast RAM.. But AMD made some tweaks to the 3000-series that make it less straightforward. So what should YOU buy for third-gen Ryzen?
Buy a Ryzen 5 3600:
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Buy a DDR4-3000 Samsung B Die memory kit (for overclocking)
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Buy a DDR4-3600 Samsung B Die memory kit
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Attack!
Can't wait to listen to the album
Just giving you some promotion dude. I really liked the concept art I saw for your new album cover: a half-dried wall of paint.
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**waiting for DDR4 to re-appear in stock on Newegg** WHERE DID IT GO
Linus: 0:15 "Behind me are 22 kits of DDR4"
*11 kits of DDR4
@@lichkingethan2102 he counted the rams
@@juparkjr1285 while he literally said KITS in the quote
@@jerry1460 oh...
I finally found you from the forums!
2019 Linus: "Upto a whopping 3200MHz"
2020 Linus: "It's only 5100MHz, ugh its fine"
poor linus
rich linus
middle-class linus
working class linus
Linus Linus
"locked Anthony in a room until he was finished"
I died here
So did Anthony.
@@sky_004 F
Lol my name is Anthony '-' hahaaa .
Anthony is life.
Yeah Dude this part cracked me up too
Everyone: So what ram should I use with this ryzen?
Linus: Yes.
basically whatever your CPU says. For example AMD's site I got a Ryzen 7 3700x and it says 3200, so I'mma go with that
Thank you Linus, very cool!
@@kyriakos098 Funny, AMD tells me the 3200G needs 2933Mhz... But this video says everything under 3200 will hurt it...
@@saaiesue5186 The amd 3400g has infinity fabric 1 so it doesn't need higher ram speeds and the non g cpus need higher ram speed because it got infinity fabric 2
toaster man to elaborate for us Neanderthals, 3200g/3400g are based on zen+ (last gen) and next years APU will be on zen 2.
I came here confused, now im even more confused :|
@Tadas Nanartonis i read the tl;dw on the description. Thanks a lot!
In short: with 3rd gen, memory doesn't that important and latency(that 16-18-18-36 thing) more important than frequency(MHz)
@Tadas Nanartonis Thank you!
You should check out buildzoids videos about ram frequencies, it's more clear and a lot less yelling
Just check the motherboards QVL for RAM compatibility and pick the speed you want.
This was a very informative video but considering low latencies and higher infinity fabric clock speeds seem to matter more, it might be better just to spend less on the RAM and buy a better CPU or GPU with that extra cash. Also I don't think the differences are that dramatic especially with a lot of the workstation benchmarks. Now this does have an advantage over Intel atleast I would assume because RAM can be further optimized for better performance.
I'm just a casual so it doesn't matter all that much to me. If I got a Ryzen 9 3900X and 16GB of only 2400MHz RAM, I would not be complaining! The guts of the processor and the amount of RAM matters way more and contributes like 90% of the overall performance, no?
Ll0
@@pwnage44 You’d still be missing some frames compared to running 3200mhz
@@ludvigbjorck7133 Yeah but the main factors that determine performance rest on the GPU and CPU.
@@pwnage44 1 year later I hope that's 32 or 64 gb 😄 🤣
How safe is it to tweak your memory? I have been tuning my memory since the launch of zen2. It's takes painstaking long to test. I tested with prime95. Sometimes I get error after 7 hours.
After finaly getting to the tertiary timing settings 1 of my 2 memory dimms failed and gives instant errors.
I never changed the voltage (used the xmp 1.35v and also used the xmp rated mhz). Did one of my dimms degrade to destruction just by tightening the timings?
We are going to have another ram shortage thanks to linus ..!!!
It's ok, he's invested
The Dominator Platinum RGB full be plenty available if you have the money.
Yyyyep..!
still cannot find 3900X anywhere in Europe
@@allansh828 check customs
>Looks at the Brazilian market prices for 3600Mhz ram
>Mental breakdown
AliExpress. Não precisa agradecer. Não é taxado. :)
Surprisingly, prices in Serbia are relatively similar to those on AliExpress and NewEgg (I honestly thought they were much higher). For example, Kingston's HyperX Predator 2×8G at 3600MHz is around 200 € (= $220-230): itsvet.com/ram_memorija_kingston_hyperx_predator_rgb_hx436c17pb3ak2/16-pdaa1-71.i?id=3878
@@cleitonoliveira932 Como assim não é taxado? Não passa na alfandega?
@@rodrigoalister9593 Não chega a $100. Cada memória custa no máximo $40.
@@cleitonoliveira932 * recebê-lo estalado em dois da China * - droga!
É bom ter costumes de limite de US $ 100. Que país?
Europa Oriental, aqui temos impostos acima de US $ 11,11
0:21 “DDR4”
Subtitles: “DDR3”
Thanks, watching without sound right now.
Thank you! because im deaf lol i was like huh? wtf..
That really was a bruh moment right there... Had to check the video upload date to confirm if I read it right.
@@joelpassanha8996 anyways here's my DDR2 ram recommendation for zen2 cpus: [....]
Same
TL:DR,
If you run 1:1 using the base clock of your RAM and matching the infinity fabric speed, (2400 RAM and 1200 IF, for example) you will get a very stable performance that will improve as you reach higher RAM speeds. If you go over/under the 1:1 ratio, then make sure to adjust your RAM timing to compensate for latency.
How do i do that, i got 5900x now,just put Corsair LPX 2400mhz(from the old system) on the correct timings and voltage but the ratio is still at 1:12. This ram will go on sale with the old parts and i will have to get new ones,thinking of 32gb of 3200mhz or 3600mhz (from what i saw there is no notable difference between them in performance) but i can't get my head on how to solve the infinity stuff or with what ram does it work.
TL;DW (too long; didnt watch) as its a video
Me: just finished building my PC with Ryzen CPU and 16gb 2666mhz RAM
Linus: lemme ruin this man's day
2666 mhz ram is just as good, just 1-2 fps less. The difference is negligible.
Same here, got 2666mhz cl19 memory and here is linus making me think it was the worst purchase ever ;D
Lmao just overclock your ram
I feel poor now with my 2200G and 2x4GB 2400mhz RAM
**rips 2133mhz ram out of system**
Psssh who does that XD... ha...
Difficulty level: Anthony.
In the event of a RAM shortage, Anthony could pull a printer cartridge out of the printer and run it as 3200 Mhz ram with a CAS latency of C16.
I flipped xD
C16? More C1
To be fair, the printer cartridge sounds more expensive :D
@@auvski5903 That's funny. They are really expensive.
Trash
0:17 this must be enough for chrome
no u still need triple that, unfortunately
*n o*
Chrome: Pathetic.
0:22 The moment you thought its was a giveaway...
Customer:I want Samsung B-die single rank 3600mhz C15 ram
Seller: You want what?
Yeah, i found these g.skill ram 2x8GB - F4-3600C15D-16GTZ Someone OC them to 3800 cl14 and they are cheap too under 200$. Which is ridiculous, there are g.skill ram 3800 cl14 stable for higher price, which are basically same ram overclocked for exaggerated price. Also don't expect to get to 1900, or even 1800 infinity fabric for granted. It is possible on some motherboards, but unlikely. Choose mobo carefully ! Some people having problems to get to 1800 !!! But some got to 1900 without much problem and said it is stable, but performance gain was negligible and higher temps. 1800 is probably safe for daily use.
Seller: We sell food here, Sir.
=Turns out OP was at a Burger King=
@@gofai274 Well the samsung B-die chips are pretty awesome and easy to overclock with the right motherboard and CPU.And the warranty (999months) is pretty awesome so you can overclock it however you want.My Ripjaws V @3000Cl14 can do 46 gb/s with ease with 1-st gen ryzen and probably 50-52gb/s with the 3-rd gen
@@gofai274 Funny. In my country, the 3600 cl14 kit is €60 more expensive than the 3800 cl14 kit.
@@ThePerfectOwnage people are buying 3600 because of videos like this making them costs more due to demand.
Linus: "And locked Anthony in a room until he was done testing..."
Me: "So, this is your way to make sure Anthony cannot give his two weeks notice after that bad table-based pun of James?"
it rubs the ram on the slot or it gets the hose again
It wasn't pun, James hit him in the face with notes card 😢
@@igoresque Are you saying that James verbally assaulted Anthony? HR definitely needs to hear about this hostile work environment.
@@jackielinde7568 i.imgur.com/k5syLfZ.png 😟
Lol
Can you revisit this with the 5000 series.
should definitely explain how to read that graph
I've collected all the infinity fabrics. With one snap, half the macbook butterfly keyboards in the universe will break.
**snap**
My brother came back from the Blip and he's one of the only IBM buckling spring mech boards in my city! What the fuck!
Jokes on you, they were already broken.
did you do it?
yes
what did it cost?
all the ram
Infinity Fabric sure sounds like it would make the Infinity Gauntlet very comfortable
Me: Literally bought a new PC with an AMD CPU this morning...
Linus: wait a second...
That's why ya build one urself
@@willwastaken I did though, it's way cheaper... A pre-build PC they ask €1000 for, you can build yourself for €800.
Rick 'RlCK' not always cheaper
Titoepf X almost everytime but they use bad RAM MOBO and PSU
@@Rick020 Yeah usually the prices are similar, but its the quality of the components that varies. You'll usually get cheap RAM, cheap CPU cooler, cheap PSU and a below average motherboard on a pre built, however you can build your own with much higher quality parts for the same price. You also have the customisation aspect of building. I recently bought myself a Cooler Master MasterCase H500 case. Absolutely incredible. The airflow for the price is top notch. Also got myself a red and black Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo CPU cooler which looks sweet. I love a good custom built PC.
“Memory usually isn’t as sexy as GPUs”
*trident z has entered the chat*
Gaudy not sexy
Trident Z Royal*
@@ophatjb Yes sir.
imo trident z neo doesn't actually look so good i prefer corsair ram or hyper x
Crucial Ballistix in all white, no RGB.
Yes I said it, no RGB.
He got paid by Intel to confuse us to not buy new ryzen cpu ....
Lmao
i feel this hahahahahha
underated asf 😅
Well,if it could be true lol
0:20 Linus: ddr4
Auto-generated subtitle: dd3
I was like, Whaaaaaaat
Yeah
Same saw that to
ISoloist why are you watching it with subtitles?
Adrian 64bit Not everyone understand english as you guys
Long story short best combo is Zen 2 with 3600mhz CL14 ram.
@@BrawndoQC you're probably set for Ryzen 4000 though. ;)
I just bought 3600 but cl18 :(
Can you tldr some of this for me? A lot of this was to jargon-ey for me
@@Walhor CL18 is bad well it can be worse I'm using 3000mhz CL16 on my Ryzen 5 2600.
If you want to spend $100 more on RAM, sure. Is that worth the performance gain over 3200 cl16?
*thanks.* ill probably get a ryzen+navi system soon and this is really helpful.
a hardware unboxed video helped me lower my timings a couple of weeks ago (at same, rated, memory speed) and get some pretty reasonable improvements for mid-shelf memory!
I understood 5% of what Linus said
Time to hit the discord LTT for the 95%
95% of the people: *voice concern*
I didn't know that existed
exactly lmao
Do I look like I know what a latency is?
What is the name of discord..???
One does not simply mention Anthony without his VOICE in the video 👿
U mad bro?😂
@@dhruvjat8150 U GEI BRO?
Brian Homeyer At least nobody mentions his body fat.
@@user-qv5lr1sy9o Germans be like....
After reading up on a lot of DRAM frequencies and overclocking info and all, I came back and rewatched this video and it now makes more more sense. lol Just needs to be summed up better and in easier ways to understand. Good video afterall.
Great content, loved it! This feels like a return to form for LTT. I'd love to see more in depth analysis like this.
Linus: Makes a RAM video
RAM shortage: *ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF*
The cheap qucikest gettable ram, yes maybe. The expensive ones not so. No 16 year old has 1000 dollar to spend on just ram.
don't you dare jinx it
@@CheesyMcBeard One of the best modules is 100$ for an 8GB stick.
@@Aggnog With or without tax? B-die or Hynix?
M M I’m 13 and have 128gb of ram at $1400 so think again
7:50 Conclusion for most of us value oriented builders and users.
PRAISE THE Lord
thank you.
The video should have been 3 minutes long...
@@yatoakito2037 In their defense they didn't prolong it just for the 10 mins required for double ad
God bless u
uff thanks linus, this video helps me so much, gonna get tridenz Z neo right now with c16 3600mhz and only gonna change the timings and infinity fabric clock.
You help me too much with your reviews. Thanks for the HARD WORK!! LOVE U MAN ! :D
Sooo.... the best scenario is highest MHz, lowest latency, and highest IF clock
unsurprising... but generaly - you can consider it other way around - check how far your IF goes, pick lowest timing set you can with double the speed of the IF and you are done.
@@Paerigos not exactly. A 3000 with tight timing kit can put a 4000 with stock timing to shame. Check HUB channel. He tried all those combinations.
@@prdx8543 what's the exact name of the channel?
That you can get in a 1:1 ratio. The second you de-sync, latency spikes like mad & perfomance goes out the window. Thus, 3800MHz RAM/1900MHz IF with as low of timings as possible seems the limit for people/chips.
@@Cooe. Some people here has already tested 1900 IF. It is NOT stable. Check him out. You can do 1900 for PCIe 3.0, but PCIe 4.0 will have some "loss signal" with 1900 IF. It's kinda like PCI overclocking a few years back.
ua-cam.com/video/nugwAOvijHQ/v-deo.html
I'll just download RAM off the internet.
I think there may also be shortage :(
@@ybr8192 lol
I just upload my ram to you
Also found a site where i can download faster internet :steamhappy:
when will ever be cloud ram?
This was so
helpful! Thank you!
I LOVE YOU GUYS..... You have no idea how much you've helped me build my new rig.
"OH MY GOD, I'M SO BORED. WHEN WILL THIS END?" Didn't Yvonne say this during the Roast about Linus?
Nope just during sex, Bazinga!
I didn't get the impression that lasting too long was the issue.
LTT: Hey AMD, we've got an idea for your ads, do you want g.skill to pay for it?
AMD: YES...
Thank you so much for the video! It helped me a lot
Very interesting and useful testing!
Me, watching this immediately after buying an AMD CPU: •__•
😂😂 Same here. Hopefully didn't get ram that was too underpowered
I got 3200mhz haven't watched yet yikes
I got a F4-3200C16D-32GVK kit for 188$, and that's with 23% VAT that we have here in Poland. It should be perfect for my 3700X.
@@sulphurous2656 $188 for a 32gb kit
Well we pay $160 for 16gb kit 3000mhz
**cries in indian prices*
#wrekt
I was confident with my PC build and now you are making me doubt of my RAM... thanks Linus.
What's your cpu/ram?
yeah, i have team group TUF vulkan gaming 16gb 3200 cl16. and i am doubting my choice. thought i could overclock it to 3600. boy was i wrong. it does not like me changing anything. if i set it to 3400 and leave voltage and timing alone it boots and seems ok. would have to properly test stability though. and nothing else boots. or at least not without crashing 10 seconds into a test. also my cpu (3700x) on my motherboard (asus x570 gaming wifi plus) never goes over 4.25ghz. even on single core tests in cinebench.. i thought single core boost was supposed to be 4.4... im a bit annoyed.
@@wotever99ninynine You might want to try 3600Mhz 18-20-20-20-42 @ 1.37v
@@wotever99ninynine as I commented, I wish people would stop getting tricked into believing that RAM overclocking or "gaming RAM" is going to impact their performance. You should get a reliable and decent RAM kit for sure, but having the best CPU/GPU combo that you can afford and as much RAM as possible is always better.
I've had my own custom computer since the Athlon x2 and I've never bothered getting into RAM overclock since most of the performance gains are basically from overclocking the CPU and GPU due to impact of the internal cache has over external "slow" RAM has.
You are always better off having more RAM then faster RAM in a day to day basis.
If RAW speed is what you want then sure go for it, buy the ultimate overclocking kit...but just like the "insane" CPU overclock often run on one or two sticks or RAM, you'll find out that it's easier to face instability and you having to compromise on some stuff (dual vs quad channel).
I'm not saying that you won't see any improvement, I'm just saying that you'll be better off having a 32GB RAM disk with 20GB of cache on your SSD and still have 12GB spare for the OS @2100-3200, compared to getting a 16GB kitt of 4200Mhz @ 6969Mhz Inifinityswags.
@@MrVaykadji ill give it a go, i trie pretty similar timings, but a bit looser and it was a no go. even up to 1.4 (or was it 1.5? volts) the ram says its rated for 1.2-1.4/.5v cant remember which right now.
but thanks heaps, ill try it and post back how it goes :-)
Linus would love to see this with the Ryzen APU cores. For starting off budget gaming 1080p. Would be curious if it is good for 3400g/3200g to see the affect it has on the graphics
I'm running on a 4750G and previously had 2400 MHz CL15 which I later upgraded to a 3600 MHz CL16. It made about 10 FPS difference on this game I play (Satisfactory)
4:00 I just hope Anthony was locked with enough food and water!
What difference does it make when the human eye can't see more than 2 gigs of ram per eye per game.
ur a dummy its cant see more than 4.20 gigs per eyeball per game.
grow more eyes.
every console peasant ever
where can i download more ram
@@7Frosty7 at deditatedwam . com
Couldn't understand most of it. :( While showing the charts, could you please point at the sections you're referring to?
yeah, same i have no idea what i just watched tbh
Big issue was the annoying background music.
@Nguyen Anh Not knowing things doesn't translate to "being stupid". I understood everything Linus was talking about, which doesn't translate to "me being super smart".
@Nguyen Anh Dunning Kruger guy?
Yeah the charts are not representing what he is saying at all. You get the feeling that someone told him about the results and information got lost between the testing and this video.
Would love for an updated 2020 Zen3 list!
I LOVE how Gamers Nexus and Linus Tech tips get along so well. At least from what I see, they don't fight each other. They tend to work together! They may have different opinions here and there but over all, i love the jokes and the colab.
Really appreciate that you bothered to do it properly, testing varying CAS latencies at the same frequency and then testing a good amount of those combinations with varying infinity fabric clocks. Very thorough.
All the other videos compare for example 3200-CAS14 with 3600-CAS16 and leave it at that, let alone changing the FCLK. That's completely useless if you want to figure out what specs are most relevant to performance and where the sweet spot is for 1% lows vs averages etc. Thank you, Anthony.
Can you do a video on RAM overclock and tightening the memory timings ?
0:32
"Whats going in and out of your PC when you're connected to the internet?"
*video buffers*
Well apparently nothing...
Good stuff as always Linus. Thank you for the video.
Great video Linus as usual. I'm actually building a gen 3 and build so I really needed this. Keep going strong!
Man, Anthony you just made the best zen2 memory video.
Abhay Pratap Singh Agreed. Whatever they’re paying Anthony, they should probably pay him more. He appears to be the only one there with the chops to bring LTT a high level of technical credibility. Not to say that the rest of the crew isn’t great, excepting Jake who is white supremacist trash that they should’ve dropped instead of abetting. Linus certainly has a lot of networking chops too. And everyone else has great knowledge and skills in their fields and plays their roles well in creating great content as a team. But Anthony is quite clearly the IT wizard of the shop, presumably keeping everyone else’s tools working properly. And he still manages to make excellent content himself, even if he’s not presenting it. Perhaps most of all, he fills these roles without being a totally pompous jerk, which has value in and of itself.
Anthony: You should negotiate a raise. You’re valuable enough to them that I don’t think you’ll get much pushback.
@@fosterlewis7360 Why is he white supremacist ?
4:07 What's the timings like on the 2133mhz ram though? Realistic to achieve on a regularly priced 2133mhz or even a 2400 or 2666mhz kit?
Great video man!
Learned a fair about the new AMD processors, most likely will be my next one. Thank you for the video!
All credit to LTT for such a comprehensive test of all the options ! Anthony did a brilliant job on the analysis, and Linus presented EVERYTHING in such a short time ! It goes without saying that we have to use the pause button if we want to read all the data... A load of useful info for anyone wanting to build a good AMD gaming rig...
Nice comparison, guys! Bigup!
1:35 ...when I literally just came from that video LOL. Thanks for simplifying it for us
finally a video that's both interesting and useful to me, specifically.
now to actually get the money saved to buy a 3900x system
Oh look, it's the same Ting recording we see everywhere...
How about making an updated version of this video? Alot has changed in this year.
not really 3600mhz remains the default gtg for infinity fabric on the 5000 series.
@@KingLo no lol, 99% of chips can do 1866, some have a hole at 1900, and a good amount can do 1933. your better off just buying a good kit of b die or rev e and ocing, gives great performance.
Would love to see this overclocked 1900 1:1 with tightened timings alongside the overclocked 9900k in all the benchmarks. Intel got cpu oc headroom. while perhaps AMD got potential through infinityfabric and ram OC.
I think I'll just stick to my 3000MHz sticks that I just set to XMP profile...
Was literally thinking same thing but with 3200 at 1.3500V
@@Dyaltic literally same with me, 3200 16gb at 1.350v on ryzen 5 1600.
3000MHz gang
Same here. 3000MHz memory and a R7 2700.
R5 3500 , ddr4 3000mhz i hope that will work well
Well I got a used 32GB 2400MHz CL14 kit quite cheap, so I guess I'll do some IF overclocking 😁
I would love to see some reviews on g skills 3800 cl14 sticks that recently launched. I have my eyes set on a 3900x and would love to see performance on this memory config at that kind of speed and timing.
I know this video is kinda old, but it gave me an idea! I hope one of you guys see this. You guys should test overclocking on like 20 identical CPUs. Make a video about what a "golden chip" really is! That'd be pretty interesting!
4:00 "...locked Anthony in a room until he was finish testing them." :D
got a ryzen 5 2600. clocked it at 4GHz and I love the thing!
This video was uploaded a week ago
UA-cam: Well i guess i should notify him now.
Now It's been 9 months+ for me
Prateek Panwar make that more than 10
This is so helpful, thanks LTT
I am literally selling my laptop and purchasing a ryzen 3rd gen over the next few months so this is really really helpful! thank you so much Linus for this and all your other videos
Got 3600MHz/CL14 running on my 3700X/Crosshair VI Hero combo without any problems via the Ryzen DRAM Calculator. That's using four 8GB sticks too. Seems like the sweet spot for Zen 2.
the size and number of sticks depends more on the board than the chip
Brad Haines no it’s the CPU, more sticks strains the memory controller, which is on the CPU, not the board...
For instance, good luck getting his speeds to work on Intel 8700k or 7700k, their memory controllers kind of top out around 4000-4200 for really good memory controller binning on those CPUs and with 4 sticks that’s going to put too much load to run above 3600 (so they probably won’t run that tight of timings).
The board is just traces at this point (preferably you use 2 slot only boards for best overclocking thanks to more optimized EMI layout due to its simple nature and shorter trace runs, it’s just easier with half the wiring)
Crosshair VI Hero has T-Topology memory layout, so it doesn't really matter whether you have 2x or 4x 8GiB sticks.
Agree T topology mobo is good for 4 dimms.
Good video, what DRAM memory frequency do you recommend for Ryzen 9 9300X?
Yup. Already going x570 Crosshair VIII, 32gb trident royal 3600 cl16 and a 3700x. Gonna wait for sales next month and its back to hardware mode for the holidays.
there is a 50€ price difference between cl16 3000 and cl17 3600 for 16gigs where i live
so nice information to have but not really relevant to me im afraid
3600 cl14 - a golden sweet spot
Thank you for a great video!
Right up until you play with an old server motherboard and find out it'll share all 8 memory channels across both processors (Intel).
really dope review, i have Aorus Master X570 with ryzen 3700x which memory 3600 (brand) u suggest to me,
and better to get 2X16gb or 4X8gb? thanks
I have a Ryzen 7 3800x and I want to upgrade the ram and motherboard
What motherboard should i pick:
- GIGABYTE AORUS X570 ELITE
- ASRock X570 Extreme4
- MSI MEG X570 ACE
- MSI MEG X570 UNIFY
I chose these because they go up to 3200 Mhz without OC for the RAM. Any other good options? Ace is the most expensive here and i don't want to go higher than that
As for ram, I chose:
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16GB DDR4 3200MHz CL14 1.35v Dual Channel Kit
According to Captions, you are using DDR3.
Single channel DDR2 533MHz 2GB at the moment
Very nice review! Is this also relevant for the lower core ryzen procs like the R5 3600?
yes, the controller is the same, but the infinity fabric might not clock so high, because I guess AMD binns it. 1800MHz should be possible but dont expect more than that
Yes. All Ryzen 3000 series use the same IO chiplet/memory controller.
It's relevant for all Ryzen products since they all have the Infinity Fabric structure unlike Intel which turns off it's Hyperthreading structure for certain CPUs.
@@garrertthenze4378 Infinity Fabric isn't equivalent to Hyperthreading, SMT is. All Ryzen CPUs have infinity fabric, but not all have SMT.
If I could get this turbo charged Niken it would make my choice of motorcycle easy. It's beautiful, great work you did on this surprising invention.
I am currently deciding between the Yamaha Niken GT and the Indian FTR 1200 to get in the next few months
I got some cheapo 3600MHz for my... 3600, and just tightened the timings to within an inch of their lives.
Went from 18-22-22-42 to 16-19-16-36. Very happy - didn't even have to up the DRAM or SoC voltage.
Poor Anthony!
Anthony: But... I love doing this!
Well.... okay then! 👍 You're awesome for all your hard work!
This just makes memory overclocking more appealing so we weren’t have a memory shortage.
Unless everyone BREAKS their ram kits trying this
Great vid, does this logic still hold true for the Ryzen 5000 series or do we need an updated video?
Same question here
That makes so much sense now! I've got Corsair Vengeance RGB 32GB (2x16). And prolly the first things you'll ask is why do I need 32GB. Well first of all because I use one PC for gaming and work, including heavy tasks like rendering non stop in heavy software. Anyway apart from the 32Gb, I was also aiming to buy RAM faster than the 2400Mhz basic kit I've been using. So it turns out that since I have 2nd gen Ryzen processor it wouldn't be recommended to run more than 2933Mhz? After almost a week since I upgraded the RAM I've finally reinstalled some of the games I used to play previously (because I also reinstalled the OS). So today I tried playing Overwatch for the first time with the new RAM on 3200Mhz with the XMP profile enabled. For some reason when the RAM is running at 3200Mhz Overwatch crashes with the error message the virtual memory error. Only the game crashes, not the system. Ever since I've been using this PC, for a year now, I've haven't encountered any hardware issues, so I immediately decided that I should tone down the speed of the RAM, because it's probably something with it, since none of the other components have had problems before. After toning down the speed to 2933Mhz this hasn't happened again today. So now I am here looking that the max speed 2nd gen Ryzen supports, and it's 2933Mhz. So that makes sense, why maybe the game crashed on 3200Mhz, because it probably made the system unstable.
I bought a 3200mhz kit because according to asrock the steel legend only supports up to 3466mhz or something. I hope its good enough
Anthony must be hating AMD stuff by now! 😂🤦♂️
Thanks for the vid. Would be great to have same one for Zen2 on laptops
this was very informative
This makes me feel better about leaving the ram and IF at auto settings for the and PC's I built for friends and family. I don't usually oc for other people because of the increased chance of instability and seeing the performance gains being so small an average person wouldn't notice it makes me happy.
Sometimes even the automatic settings fail. When I want to fill all four slots on my board (B350, 2200G), I have to manually underclock the RAM while each of the pairs alone runs at 3200 without problem. This might be a problem of the CPU but is nevertheless annoying.
@@tz8785 you're using a very old board and a last gen cpu which wasn't supposed to run over 2933 at the very most. This video is about ryzen 3000 series.
Just before getting rid of my last system, I overclocked it. In benchmarks, I got over a 5% boost, but in real world tests, the difference wasn't noticeable. (Switching to an SSD had a much bigger impact.)
@o k that's called an overclock. You learned something new today congratulations.
At least use XMP / DOCP settings
I already have 2 weeks with my Ryzen 3rd time to watch this video and find out where did I mess up lol
The DRAM calculator looks helpful! Thanks Linus 🤓
Thanks for the video. I am watching these to catch up as I need to build a PC after 10 years for my home office due to pandemic. To get the best value for money in the performance, what would be the best option from following RAM's? (all are 3200MHz and 2x16GB kits) Variation is in Latency but two selected are claimed CAS latency=16. Setup is mainly for image processing, one file is about 12 GB, and software recommends 4x of the file size for better performance (rendering, segmentation and registration). Planning to get a Ryzen 5900x processor.
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Thanks in advance for your kind replies.