I just purchased the 23' brz 2 days ago. I absolutely f love my car! Fun to drive,...I opted for the manual purposely. BTW not sure what your definition of cheap vs expensive is but I can guarantee you that I worked my ass off for every penny that I paid on my not so cheap BRZ! 😉
Your grandpa invented that horrible imperial system of measurement but now you are using metric. But in America we are are stuck with the imperial garbage.
I Just went through this myself and ended up going the GR86. I'm 186cm and the mx5 even with the seat all the way back just felt a little uncomfortable and the weird driving position of the ND put me off. You sit with your legs off to the side and not straight which was off putting for me. Also I've owned both cars before as older versions (2012 86 & 1990 Japanese Eunos roadster (mx5)) before and the new mx5 is missing the raw sportiness of the older ones, it's much nicer car inside and out than the gr86 though, but the ability to throw the 86 sideways at any time did it for me. The MX5 felt like you had to be going really hard to enjoy the handling, the 86 feels alive even at slow speeds.
I had an MX-5 (the 1.5 litre model), it was amazing fun to drive. But like you said I had to keep a second car for daily use. The MX-5 has a tight interior and I also found the seats a bit lacking in support and durability. The manual transmission was the best I’ve ever experienced.
Have had my BRZ(ed) for a week now and love it. Was originally going to get the MX5 but after sitting in one, the complete and utter lack of room swayed me towards the Subbie. Drives well, more space, looks incredible in the WR Blue (10th Anniversary spec) with black rims and sounds better than the MX5. Now, just to get a space saver spare wheel to reclaim some boot space and I’m set.
Do you have a source for a space saver spare? In the US, I keep getting told there is no space saver available for the BRZ from suppliers. Many that own BRZs say an impreza spare works fine.
I am an Mx-5 ND owner. I love the car! If you are looking for a convertible, then the BRZ/GR8 is just not on your shopping list. It's an odd comparison, performance is comparable, but the deal breaker as always is you can't take the roof off the BRZ. If you need space in the back and practicality is important, then sure, the BRZ wins, but if you are fine with a smaller cabin and smaller boot (trunk) then the MX-5 is ideal. Also, I don't believe the the Brembo's are worth it. It's important to note that ONLY the front brakes a Brembo, the rear calipers are standard brakes but painted red! It might be useful if you are doing a lot of track work with the car, but for day to day driving the standard brakes are actually very very good. Regarding practicality, my wife and I went on a 5 week interstate road-trip in the MX-5, we took two small wheelie carry-on cabin bags that you'd take on a flight, plus a couple of backpacks. No problems at all!
@theretoocs, great review. I am on the market for MX-5 RF. You covered everything I was worried about w.r.t practicality. I agree brembo brakes dont matter if you not doing track.! Do you have the soft top or RF? Which one do you like the best?
@@krisrocker437 thanks! I have the soft top, saw no need for the heavier folding RF top. It’s the pure MX-5 experience. Anecdotal evidence suggests the RF might be a little noisier when open, the side buttresses causing some wind flow disturbance. Even at speed in the soft top you can hear music, take a phone call and chat to your passenger without raising your voice. Very happy with that choice.
I have the new BRZ and after 1 year of owning it I can say the 99% of the time the back end is very nice and it's only in the wet or when you get a bit of wear on the wheels do you see the back end go out as much as I saw in your video
My mx5 ND1 screen has spider cracks at the corner. It is a known issue by Mazda for that generation. They refuse to repair it outside warranty. Poor form by Mazda. I was going to upgrade to ND2 but the experience has pushed me to the BRZ. I now drive the 2023 BRZ with many pros over the mx5. The manual of the BRZ is very good but Mx5 is slightly better.
I have a 2016 mx-5 and after the woeful after sales experience mazda gave me , including dishonesty and refusal to repair things they broke and denying two warranty claims, I swore never to give them a cent more. It now gets serviced by a great private mechanic and if I were ever to recommend a car to buy new it would be either KIA or Hyundai. Because of Mazda Australias terrible attitude, I refuse to upgrade my pathetic head unit through them. Looking at an aftermarket upgrade as it's so shitty and slow the rest of the interior is falling apart and the leather on all surfaces wore very badly and that was after twelve months from new and there is rust starting in several places. It's a real shame that you believe all the hype and because maz Aust have such a terrible attitude to looking after owners that it becomes a big no to repeat purchase.
Subaru BRZ has a boxer engine and subaru are known rally car champions and all sedans are specked to rally car specs also all sedans have always been minimal optional extras as your paying for performance not blind spot indicators the Mazda is based on a family car experience with a slower engine and not heavy torque engine so its going to be a elderly person cruiser for sundays
Just bought an MX5 RF. The GR86 just didn't do it for me. The Mazda feels like a 'real' sports car. As for space, I have a Triton ute for when I want practical.
Be honest! Which are you taking? Why??!
Neither. same $ get a used GOLF R
I got the MX5 RS as a second car.....because it puts a smile on my dial.
@@Vikturus22 Risky business! I like it
Miata is always the answer ! Topless life
BRZed because it doesn't make you sick.
I just purchased the 23' brz 2 days ago. I absolutely f love my car! Fun to drive,...I opted for the manual purposely. BTW not sure what your definition of cheap vs expensive is but I can guarantee you that I worked my ass off for every penny that I paid on my not so cheap BRZ! 😉
Nice you should disabled the fake engine noise, its in the passage side dash. first thing I done
Same here. I have owned 20 or so new cars over the decades and the BRZ is the most expensive car I have ever owned by 20%.
Your grandpa invented that horrible imperial system of measurement but now you are using metric. But in America we are are stuck with the imperial garbage.
I Just went through this myself and ended up going the GR86. I'm 186cm and the mx5 even with the seat all the way back just felt a little uncomfortable and the weird driving position of the ND put me off. You sit with your legs off to the side and not straight which was off putting for me. Also I've owned both cars before as older versions (2012 86 & 1990 Japanese Eunos roadster (mx5)) before and the new mx5 is missing the raw sportiness of the older ones, it's much nicer car inside and out than the gr86 though, but the ability to throw the 86 sideways at any time did it for me. The MX5 felt like you had to be going really hard to enjoy the handling, the 86 feels alive even at slow speeds.
I had an MX-5 (the 1.5 litre model), it was amazing fun to drive. But like you said I had to keep a second car for daily use. The MX-5 has a tight interior and I also found the seats a bit lacking in support and durability. The manual transmission was the best I’ve ever experienced.
Agree with the seats, when buying ND Miata then the Recaro seats are must have, the standard seats are that great for your lower back.
I have had my BRZ for about 550 miles. I have yet to have the rear wheels get lose.
Where are you getting the information about wheels, its just cast wheels MADE IN CHINA ?
@@hsv215i i was almost going to ceramic coat it, it said made in CHINA lol
@@hsv215i 10.4 KG stock, i'm looking at WEDS 105x 7.3KG
@@bosshogg690 I am going to put 105x on my GR86 as well
Have had my BRZ(ed) for a week now and love it. Was originally going to get the MX5 but after sitting in one, the complete and utter lack of room swayed me towards the Subbie. Drives well, more space, looks incredible in the WR Blue (10th Anniversary spec) with black rims and sounds better than the MX5. Now, just to get a space saver spare wheel to reclaim some boot space and I’m set.
Do you have a source for a space saver spare? In the US, I keep getting told there is no space saver available for the BRZ from suppliers. Many that own BRZs say an impreza spare works fine.
It doesn’t sound better than the MX5, it’s all fake engine noise. The car has zero sound.
The problem is with the MX5 us stockier blokes look like bloated sardines in it.
I am an Mx-5 ND owner. I love the car! If you are looking for a convertible, then the BRZ/GR8 is just not on your shopping list. It's an odd comparison, performance is comparable, but the deal breaker as always is you can't take the roof off the BRZ. If you need space in the back and practicality is important, then sure, the BRZ wins, but if you are fine with a smaller cabin and smaller boot (trunk) then the MX-5 is ideal. Also, I don't believe the the Brembo's are worth it. It's important to note that ONLY the front brakes a Brembo, the rear calipers are standard brakes but painted red! It might be useful if you are doing a lot of track work with the car, but for day to day driving the standard brakes are actually very very good. Regarding practicality, my wife and I went on a 5 week interstate road-trip in the MX-5, we took two small wheelie carry-on cabin bags that you'd take on a flight, plus a couple of backpacks. No problems at all!
@theretoocs, great review. I am on the market for MX-5 RF. You covered everything I was worried about w.r.t practicality. I agree brembo brakes dont matter if you not doing track.! Do you have the soft top or RF? Which one do you like the best?
@@krisrocker437 thanks! I have the soft top, saw no need for the heavier folding RF top. It’s the pure MX-5 experience. Anecdotal evidence suggests the RF might be a little noisier when open, the side buttresses causing some wind flow disturbance. Even at speed in the soft top you can hear music, take a phone call and chat to your passenger without raising your voice. Very happy with that choice.
“Let’s face it, you won’t be breaking any speed limits in the MX-5”. Wanna bet? Lmao.
I have the new BRZ and after 1 year of owning it I can say the 99% of the time the back end is very nice and it's only in the wet or when you get a bit of wear on the wheels do you see the back end go out as much as I saw in your video
My mx5 ND1 screen has spider cracks at the corner. It is a known issue by Mazda for that generation. They refuse to repair it outside warranty. Poor form by Mazda. I was going to upgrade to ND2 but the experience has pushed me to the BRZ. I now drive the 2023 BRZ with many pros over the mx5. The manual of the BRZ is very good but Mx5 is slightly better.
I have a 2016 mx-5 and after the woeful after sales experience mazda gave me , including dishonesty and refusal to repair things they broke and denying two warranty claims, I swore never to give them a cent more. It now gets serviced by a great private mechanic and if I were ever to recommend a car to buy new it would be either KIA or Hyundai. Because of Mazda Australias terrible attitude, I refuse to upgrade my pathetic head unit through them. Looking at an aftermarket upgrade as it's so shitty and slow the rest of the interior is falling apart and the leather on all surfaces wore very badly and that was after twelve months from new and there is rust starting in several places. It's a real shame that you believe all the hype and because maz Aust have such a terrible attitude to looking after owners that it becomes a big no to repeat purchase.
Never knew Luka Doncic is a car guy!
Shouldn't have got hair cuts this week 😂
Y’all are hilarious and provide a great review. Glad I came across this page
Subaru BRZ has a boxer engine and subaru are known rally car champions and all sedans are specked to rally car specs also all sedans have always been minimal optional extras as your paying for performance not blind spot indicators the Mazda is based on a family car experience with a slower engine and not heavy torque engine so its going to be a elderly person cruiser for sundays
What are you on about m8? You had a stroke or something?
Do a study on the new Subaru/Toyota engine. You might be surprised.
You will find a very reliable Subaru engine that has been well tested over the years and a few people who have had problems when tracking their cars.
Just bought an MX5 RF. The GR86 just didn't do it for me. The Mazda feels like a 'real' sports car. As for space, I have a Triton ute for when I want practical.
Replace thr MX-5 tyres with some ContisportContacts or PS5s and you're gucci. The stock Potenzas are good but not great.
This man has power of Helium voice
Better than a slap in the eye with a dead fish! ...I'm dead!🤣