But the whip cut in half the umbermoth with ease, Quimir should be dead, if it was the light whip, unless she can lower the blade intensity to prevent it from cutting deep into the flesh
@graedee6666 well depending on how far away she was. Was one of them moving. Etc. I totally think it was the light whip. She seems waaaaay to sketchy to not be involved haha
Roe was his master, that's been made fairly clear with the whip and his scars and even his saber is built to fight a whip. that hidden Shoto blade is the same solution that Luke came up with to handle light whips in legends.
@@passiondono I wouldn't recommend a group with unchecked authority. But a group who could help investigate issues within the order. The Jedi High Council reports to the Senate. And Jedi are realizing they don't report to the council if they want to keep secrets... With this type of freedom. Technically the higher-ranked members of the order have unchecked authority to do their own thing, if they just don't inform the council.
@@emaldir4067 And being quite a stretch unless he got a massive boost to his fortune teller stat. But we still don't know how he even met Mae, so who knows, but so far I don't see that being the case.
That scar on his back looks more like a lightning strike to me. Wouldnt a whip still leave a single slash ? The plot suggest a light whip but idk .....that scar is really jagged as if it was multiple attacks or force lightning .
in an interview the actress said "prongs" of her lightwhip. to be pronged, there needs to be at least 2 tips. I wonder if it splits at the end sometimes
Thank you. The scar is force lightening. I think he was kicked out by his sith master too. I think he is looking for his second in order to overthrow whoever the real sith is.
Hello 👋 to all fans and haters of Jordan Peterson. If the show portrays Kimir more like a darker version of Jordan Peterson what bits would you like him to do ? Personally I would like him to base his hole philosophy on lobsters and/ or make a costume with his life’s story told in pictures on it.
@@WasThisMail Okay so Soul and May burst into Kimirs layer. Soul: RELEASE OSHA !!! Kimir: Of course but first you must observe these lobsters. Soul: What ? May: Oh no we are going to be here for a while. Kimir: You see in this pod of lobsters everything is ordered in a perfect hierachy under the guidance of the green one. Soul: What has this got to do with anything ?? Kimir: But then a lobster hatches that dosen't fit into the pod maybe he is stronger than the others, maybe he has a different fighting style or maybe he just dosen't like sand. Osha: You seem to know way to much about lobsters. Kimir: The other lobsters in the pod try to force him to fit in but by doing so they push him further away and then the dark lobster takes him in and makes him even stronger. But the dark lobster dosen't stop there he gets a scool of helmet fish to join the pod of lobsters and then arfter 66 days he orders the helmet fish and his lobster apprentice to DESTROY THE POD AND TAKE OVER THE OCEAN !!!!!! Soul: Kimir I ... Kimir: HEED THE LESSONS OF THE LOBSTERS OR YOU WILL SUFFER THE SAME FATE AS THEM !!!! Soul: Kimir I don't know what you have been smooking but can we leave with Osha now ? Kimir: Yes but only if you buy my new book "12 rules for jedi life"
The Stranger is unreliable, his lack of answer to if it was his Jedi master specifically who did that made me feel he just wanted Osha to draw that conclusion herself. I can't wrap my head around how Venestra could be made to punish a padawan like that.
@@ZakHac he's probably misrepresenting events (seduction through ideas or in the strangers case, actual seduction) and that's how the sith or dark side people, can sway people to their side
I stumbled across your channel maybe 2 weeks ago and I just want to say thank God . What a breathe of fresh air. I was so tired of videos just hating on everything so negative. Love your approach and your takes. Thank you
Thank you for covering new content with genuine interest and not just rage baiting like a lot of others in the space seem to be doing. I appreciate you immensely.
The fact they revealed both Qimir's scar and the Light Whip in the same episode certainly seems to make us connect the two - but that could be foreshadowing, or a fun misdirect to add to our growing suspicions about Vernestra. The fact this show has us asking all these questions 3/4 of the way through the season is the mark of a good mystery. I WANT to know the truth, but I am afraid of what learning the truth may do to my feelings for these characters. It's compelling storytelling, even in spite of some of the shows flaws.
No, that's not the sign of a good mystery, that's the sign of an unnecessarily convoluted plot. When the audience is kept artificially ignorant of information the main characters know, that's not a mystery, that's bad faith on the part of the writers.
@@kirkdarling4120 have you ever watched a movie? Or read a book? That is a very, very common thing. Sounds like you'd enjoy just reading wookipedia after the show is finished airing 😁
I wonder if this is Disney bringing that story into Canon, where the Jedi masters went crazy and tried to kill all their Padawans to stop them from going to the Darkside
It's already Canon in a way. Luke went crazy and tried to kill his nephew because he had a vision Ben Solo was going to the dark side. Tunes in with the Jedi the actual reason dark siders/Sith exist.
I was looking at the real life ages of the actors for Qimir and Osha. 37 and 25. Qimir saying a long time ago could be 20-25 years. Maybe he left the Jedi as a teen. In that timeline he and Osha would have never crossed paths at the temple.
If Qimir was in The Order, was he expelled as a youngling or as a padawan? Perhaps he even made knight. Rather harsh if those were lightwhip scars on his back, so it must've been a fight. Yeah the ages and some knowing each other but others not knowing each other is a bit of a stretch. So Qimir may be lying about being in The Order as a Jedi...perhaps he was there in another capacity, which would explain why he knows a thing or two about the goings-on.
Hey Allen, I also want to say that from the POV of a Geologist, the Kortosis deposit on that island makes enough sense to fall within "this is jussssst close enough to reality to be allowed to stretch" Basically, you can expect to find native metals on an extinct volcanic island like the one shown, but a vein that thick would be exceedingly rare as well as horizontal rather than vertical in a lot of cases this vein would have formed as debris solidifying in a melt and falling to rest at the bottom of the magma chamber. This debris being grains of kortosis that then weld together to create the mineral lattice of the Pegmatite shown on screen (but 90 degrees rotated :P ) Also, it would be more likely to form an oxide or sulfate mineral than the native metal if it was formed where this was in the basaltic environment of the island. Anyway, I'll press play on the video and let you talk about the writing, LOL
As someone who is NOT a geologist so would know less overall about this than you likely do, wouldn't some of these answers be able to explain it being vertical? 1.) The vein originally was horizontal but formed near the edge of a tectonic plate that, when it collided with the other plates, slowly overtime changed the angle to be more vertical 2.) The vein location was originally something like a Lava Tree Mold and then a later eruption that had the cortosis (or whatever mechanism that happens to cause cortosis to form) found that opening and, if cortosis was more dense than the surrounding liquid rocks, ended up filling the bottom of it with the other metals floating above it 3.) The vein location was originally the spot of something like a Karst Fissure that later filled up with cortosis when that was formed (likely meaning that there's a horizontal layer somewhere higher up the rock strata it's just not visible due to the surrounding rocks
Could just be an extremely nuggety, high-grade hydrothermal vein, eh? Maybe kortosis likes to precipitate out in the presence of salt water, or some such.
Solid theories. The Qimir/Vernestra connection is blatantly telegraphed but so was the Qimir reveal, so I expect it to be the case. My big concern is the show *won't* have any "big twists." There were lots of little hints particularly in the first 3 episodes and they're starting to look like red herrings. We'll have to see the last 2 episodes but Acolyte still needs to justify describing itself as a "mystery show." If you look at The Sixth Sense, Fight Club, etc. what makes the shows work is you *could* have seen the big reveal coming if you paid close enough attention. If there isn't enough foreshadowing, it's a bad twist. And if there's foreshadowing without the reveal, it's even worse. None of which would make the show bad, overall, it just means it's not really a mystery show, and we need to be sparing with the word "twist."
Good points regarding twist endings. Mysteries don't necessarily have all the foreshadowing, but the writers must play fair with the audience: The audience should be told everything the investigator knows, learning new details as the investigator does. The writer isn't playing fair when the investigator's knowledge is being kept from the audience. That's more like summer camp counselors telling ghost tales over the campfire.
That would make more sense.. though I think using someone whose claim to fame was being an asshole to college kids also makes sense as inspiration for a villain
@@Dwapook @Dwapook I guess he's a villain. If you consider giving good advice and correcting college students about their stupid ideologies is wrong, then yeah, he's a villain🙄 😂😂😂😂
@@Wyomingchief being respectful about how someone prefers to be addressed isn’t some great battle to be fought, being antagonistic about it isn’t something to take pride in. The guy is good at sounding smart, but I remember him being full of hot air and broken ideas, it’s been a long time since I’ve examined him though.. it’s kind of foggy in my mind
The original full quote is "Wherever I go in the world people come up to me and they often have a pretty rough story to relate. It's an awful thing because you see, even in the revelation of their Triumph, the initial depth of their despair." It's just an astute observation of the journey of broken people. When they triumph over their brokenness or their struggles, the joy they express or exude is proportionate to how bad off they were when they started to turn their life around. Also, JP never refused to address any specific person by their pronoun. He objected to a law that coerced compliance and attempted to force people to not "misgender". There's a big difference there. Government should never be able to tell people what they can and can't say and they especially shouldn't be able to tell people what they MUST say. That was his objection and imo he was right to object on those grounds. As viewers of this awesome channel, let's continue to support Alan's dedication to nuance by practicing the same approach in his comments section. I would even say there is absolutely nothing political or divisive about this specific quote whatsoever.
I wouldn't be surprised if Qimir is just a fallen jedi. I do love theories, but sometimes I feel expectations can ruin a show. So I take all theories as a grain of salt. That doesn't mean I don't hope my favorite theories come true. BTW Thank you, Generation Tech, for typically scripting your channel less opinionated. I love to learn without embracing my hatred, lol. ❤
Exactamundo - audiences need to consider phrasing: Qimir suggests and Sol considers, but nothing is either declarative or conclusive that Qimir is of the Sith doctrine just because he’s contrarian against the Order’s dogma
Allen, this is awesome. This show is giving us such a great new conduit through which we can enjoy and speculate about the Star Wars universe. I'm really so happy the Acolyte is turning out to be so good. I can see that it's genuinely giving you content and topics you're excited to explore-- and the authenticity of that love for Star Wars just radiates in your enthusiasm in videos like this one. Dude, I love this show. Also, love this channel. Cheers, pal. Great video.
Why is everyone so stuck on the rule of two shit, ventress was a sith apprentice, maul was a sith, savage opress was a sith all these people lived at the same time for a while in addition to count dooku and emperor palpatine. And if you don’t consider those people sith, without a master or apprentice how could you consider qimir a sith? Stop being babies and enjoy the show. This is some great Star Wars and I’m tired of hearing people cry about breaking cannon. Not every Jedi knows everything. That’s the whole point of the prequels don’t take everything so literal and pray they don’t ruin Star Wars like they’re doing with marvel.
It's possible that this is a bit too obvious, and the reveal of Vernestra's lightsaber whip and Qimir's scar in the same episode is a bit of a red herring. After all, the whip mark splits, which is more indicative of Force lightning. Qimir might have started off as a Jedi (maybe even as Vernestra's padawan), but it's possible that after being rejected as a Jedi, he sought a new master who also eventually discarded him.
@@mycelia_ow I haven't watched the original interview it was pulled from, but yes it appears to be his original quote. or rather, a paraphrase thereof. his actual quote being : "Wherever I go in the world people come up to me and they often have a pretty rough story to relate. It's an awful thing because you see, even in the revelation of their Triumph, the initial depth of their despair." the broader context is that these people who come up to him are describing having been through depression and contemplated self harm and deletion
Leaving this comment to air out my own thoughts : I'm emphatically not a JP fan, but I do believe he has helped folks out of very dark places. Self-harm and self-deletion are incredibly delicate topics, and I'm honestly a little shocked the show would choose to lift a quote about individuals who contemplate it. Making a political statement that even indirectly trivializes the subject is crossing the most crimson of lines.
I noticed the light whip seemed to remain a rigid blade until the green lady (can’t remember the name for the life of me) flings it backwards. Perhaps the light whip’s, well… whip effect can be toggled with a switch?
We could be looking at Canon Tenebrous and Plagueis. It would make half the fandom lose their minds, but the species of both Tenebrous and Plagueis is Legends.
They show Qimir's whip-like scars in the same episode where they introduce a whip-like lightsaber... he claims to be a former Jedi, probably a padawan considering his rougher skills, who clearly has some baggage about his previous master... and Vernestra seems pretty keen on hiding certain things from the Jedi Council and/or the Republic Senate, particularly in regards to mistakes and failures within the Jedi Order... it could all be a red herring, sure, but it does all fit nicely with what we've learned so far.
Introducing a new character in the 3rd act is generally not a good idea. So it is safe to assume it is Vernestra. The details of how this came to pass, will be interesting nonetheless.
@@GenerationTech the real mystery is not any of the mini mysteries that are set up and then revealed immediately, the real mystery is “how dark can the Jedi get?”
Honestly i think Qimir could be one of the first Knights of Ren. Only because when we see him a few times in the armor you hear Kylo's theme. Also is it just me but his "Red" lightsaber has some Pink mixed in.
I just want to say I appreciate the approach you take with Star Wars on your channel. When you praise something, it's not with an over-exaggerated effusiveness (is that a word?) and when you are critical about something, you don't take it as a personal affront (which I see with a lot of channels that have a larger audience, built through ragebaiting) It's really showed in your approach to The Acolyte & I just wanted to say thanks.
If you look at pictures of scars made by whips, they don’t look jagged and curved. Instead the whip cuts straight lines. But it just might be that the light whip has different damage than a typical Earth whip. Thanks for the video.
8:25 Respect for the balls where you said you listened to him. I haven't listened to really much that he said, but because you said "a controversial figure" I respect that and it helped to even further support your message of "let's talk more to one another with more respect so this whole democracy thing can keep on working", since your once again moving ahead as an example.
Man I have always loved your channel it's now my favourite one on UA-cam you can actually have a talk about this show without salt and look at it dare I say without bias I love it I know you are a diehard star wars fan so freshing
It is odd that they wouldn't return the youngling to their family. But, perhaps the family too rejects the child that they were told to let go of, leaving them as orphans. What a way to grow up. In a strict monastery that doesn't encourage exploration or otherwise truly feeling the emotions that make them "people".
@@bestlexluthor7596 Also, the service core existed, and we see Yord becoming knight in his early 30's. "Discarding" is odd, and might have meant prison for Dark-siders as we saw Offee ending up there after expulsion. Other sources speak of stasis cells at Jedi temples on distant worlds where such Dark-siders may be held and possibly "counseled".
I dunno. I COULD see this going the route of one of the twins becoming the apprentice, and becoming a female version of Darth Tenebrous. This is NOT a commentary. Just an observation that Osha's good at working with machines, they could be tweaking it a bit. Sith don't ALWAYS make it to old age, so there's plenty of time for her to become Darth Tenebrous, then train Plageous in time for Palpatine.
Alan, a couple nights ago I came up with this same idea of imri being qimir , and its exciting to now hear you say it. I was not familiar with the character as I have not read the books, but with the lightsaber whip scars I began researching vernestras past and he fits the bill in a lot of ways. It even still leaves it open for a connection w tenebris, as a possible early apprentice.
Yup, makes a ton of sense. Also, I'm dead sure that the Jedi party on Brandok killed all those quasi-Nightsisters. Question is why would Vernestra order that herself then?
The only guy out there with a positive look on Star Wars. Completely baffled that the majority of the channels that literally make their living off of the saga, are working hard to convince subs to not watch anything. I don't expect pandering, dishonesty and glowing reviews, but sheesh, it's like they want to kill off their cash cow lol. I mean (no names mentioned, but he caught some tears) even the biggest SW channel has resorted to shatting on the franchise. Maybe they got the stink eye from the Mouse for being too critical, and now they striking back.
Check out Rebel Force Radio if you enjoy measured, comprehensive analysis while also maintaining a critical eye. I often enjoy Generation Tech and Rebel Force Radio together. Some of the best conversations about Star Wars.
his' a space vampire that consume his acolyte, when they're ripe.. and, Sol is the father of twins , donate some of his midichlorian to the Space Witches.
It appears that the Jedi have committed the ultimate hubris, by keeping secrets from each other. Qimir knows something and it's connected to Vernestra; she can see the who is responsible. Are the sisters just pawns in this game of revenge? I think in another reality, Qimir and Jecki would've been friends and Yord would've found someone to balance his awkwardness.
15:00 bacta tanks weren't invented until 15 minutes after Qui-Gon Jinn had died. So I don't think Bacta tank is in Qimir's youthful look. Maybe he's just not Human?
Alan, what was the conventional use of Cortosis? How was it used in ships and was it ever used in the DS1 and 2? Did it help in the main firing laser? Could it be used to deflect a blaster bolt? The Mandalorian must've found it somewhat useful in their armor, especially against the Jedi? Could it resist Sith lightening? As a metal it seems fragile yet there must be more conventional uses for it in the wider galaxy if not in combat, in power plants on Naboo etc?
Given how convoluted and overly-dramatic that final line was, it actually makes sense that its a Jordan Peterson quote; that guy's very skilled at SOUNDING more intelligent than he is. Thank you for bringing up this connection, I look forward to your exploration of this depiction of the dark side! You'll win no love from the angry online incel crowd, but it will be their loss.
How dumb do you have to be to confuse Socrates with Jordan Peterson? Like I get he's the most recent person to have been heard saying it. But history is real its out there. You just have to read it. This just shows both sides of the Fandom are filled with dumb duche bags, that spit out whatever any other popular youtuber says.
I’ve tried to find this supposed wisdom JP fanboys claim he has and I come up with nothing. The guy literally said that society is fundamentally moe unfair to males because they aren’t allowed to hit women anymore 😂 Sorry incels, you’ll never be taken seriously when these kinds of dudes are your thought leaders.
If those marks on his back are from a Light saber whip she must be a damn good with it hitting someone without slicing him to pieces, she must really barley touching him with it, unless she used a normal whip. I would say they are more marks from force lighting.
You mention Daggan Gareth and didn't get in a TANALOR IS MINE!!! quote? Not sure if I should feel ashamed for you or be impressed by your great willpower.
Lot of good background information on this vid that helps fill some of the context especially related to the oversight standpoint for the Republic and the Jedi. I think you are on to something with regards to the Police overextension issue with regards to the Jedi as well. I do wonder though if something else happened between the events of this period and episode 1 given how restricted Qui-Gon (not a paragon of acting purely by the book) was so hesitant to intervene in Naboo (despite lack of authorization) and really it was Amidala who drove the entire intervention that resolved it. The Jedi of the Acolyte appear to strain against any restriction on their authority while they appear far more reticent in the prequel period (especially Episode I).
The Peterson quote in Ep. 5 caught me completely offguard and somehow hit me more than I thought coming from this character. But only because I heard it before and can somewhat relate to it. I don't think it clicked with most people who heard it the first time, and I don't think it was too well set up to be more meaningful to a wider audience.
I would be a little more judicious in use of extended media as the source for material. Especially since Disney essentially dropped anything and everything that wasn't in a series, a cartoon, a movie, or something official in a non-book format. They're doing what Star Trek has been doing for decades: Disavowing anything not in official content. Books, unfortunately in both scenarios, are not considered canon unless explicitly stated (this extended universe material isn't considered canon by Disney). As such, it should be assumed that that former material (regardless of quality) is out the window. It's a mixed blessing, but that's how it works now.
I would've thought that a light whip strike would probably cut you nearly in half the same as a saber so yeah a long time in stasis to heal such a horrible wound make sense.
@@jasonmarbach Yord is most likely talking about the presence in the force as they are in a saber lock which connects the 2 force users minds because of the kyber crystal
@@jasonmarbach yeah, feeling your duel opponent through the force when you lock blades is emerging lightsaber lore. Think I heard about it on GF first.
Considering I just learned from @orokusaki1243 comment that Vernestra had a twin sister who also used a whip, I'm guessing: Qimir is the twin sister's pupil. Vernestra using a whip is misdirection/red herring to convince you she's his master. She could be seeking Qimir OR her twin sister (my vote is on sister). Two sets of twins, one a pair of opposing masters and the other a pair of opposing pupils. Each twin seeking the other. Each with a difficult path of confronting the other twin; like they're confronting themself. Fits the Lucas style of "it's like poetry, they rhyme, every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one"
Very much think you're on the right track, green jedi is the master that wounded him. Storytelling 101 is the mystery box character is someone you've already seen or heard mentioned already as build-up.
Both Vanestra Ro and Kimir seem like cases of "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Both have seen so much trauma, hardship and corruption that in order to survive both physically and mentally they turned corrupt themselves. And even if Kimir isn't a TRUE Sith yet, I think he's been researching them a lot. He seems to know a lot about them and their ways, to the point of outright quoting parts of their doctrine. "Peace is a lie" and "The Force shall set me free."
I don’t think Qimir is a true Sith. The Jedi have volumes upon volumes of data about the sith in their archives including sith holocrons. It’s more practical for him to gain access to Sith teachings through the Jedi temple as a former Jedi than it is for him to find a true Sith Lord to mentor him. I think it’s more likely he’s self taught and just identifies as Sith. “The power of two” Qimir refers to is already established in canon. It’s a special bond acknowledged by both Jedi and Sith: The master and the apprentice. This does not mean he follows “the rule of two” created by Bane or even knows about Bane’s lineage of Sith Lords.
Though, can a Jedi open a Sith holocron? Seems not, if you go by what we saw in Rebels. Though anyone who uses the Dark Side to open it, should be able to - Jedi or otherwise. Which Jedi are volunteering to use the Dark Side to open up acquired Sith holocrons? The Dyad would be the ultimate version of the "power of two", but there could certainly be lesser degrees. Qimir says to Sol that he might "be considered a Sith". That doesn't exactly imply that he believes himself to be one or that he is otherwise proclaiming to be one. Writers can be quite deliberate in their phrasing in order to evoke certain understandings from the audience.
I feel so sorry for him in that thumbnail I mean you broke his neck so badly that it make his head swell up my about 25% I don’t even know how that’s biologically possible? 😂 also I know I wouldn’t still be smiling if my head was on backwards 😅
One thing I find odd that maybe Allen could explain in a subsequent video is that if the Jedi are so concerned about force sensitives outside of their control, how would they ever allow someone they had been training to ever leave their supervision/active surveillance as such person would be a potential loose cannon especially if they left at the sensitive time of being a padawan or knight. I can see letting masters like Dooku may retire on their own recognizance as the order would trust them too much at that level, but letting a padawan or even pre-padawan who has begun to tap their force powers just wander loose seems odd. I had thought from previous videos that those who didn't make it to padawan were still kept in the order but just given mundane assignments like the agri-corps. They weren't allowed to leave though. Did the Jedi have some way that they thought they could strip someone leaving the order of their force sensitivity, but in their hubris didn't realize it wasn't permanent, so they thought they had neutralized the threat. It just seems like an organization like the Jedi could not just let their former students wander at will, almost to the point of "imprisoning" them at the Jedi Temple if they had to. Kind of Hotel California, "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave."
As long as they are not trying to make Qimir another version of "Reborn Revan" as a token crumb to the Legends Fandom. Reven deserves better, and Qmir has more character potential as a new character than that. Fallen Jedi with Sithly aspirations (doomed to failure as the names are known) is a good bet. His wounds are less lightwhip and more lightsaber tipscribble (Zorro style) or other energy discharge (lightning?).
I have a feeling it was the light whip weilding jedi
I was thinking force lighting, but.. the whip makes a helluva lot of sense.
But the whip cut in half the umbermoth with ease, Quimir should be dead, if it was the light whip, unless she can lower the blade intensity to prevent it from cutting deep into the flesh
@@graedee6666 that's also on my mind
@graedee6666 well depending on how far away she was. Was one of them moving. Etc. I totally think it was the light whip. She seems waaaaay to sketchy to not be involved haha
@@graedee6666but since the scar is on his back it would seem he was running away, and it could’ve grazed him instead of a full attack. Just a thought.
Roe was his master, that's been made fairly clear with the whip and his scars and even his saber is built to fight a whip. that hidden Shoto blade is the same solution that Luke came up with to handle light whips in legends.
Excellent catch with the shoto
Sounds like the Jedi need an Internal Affairs division within their order.
Yes, some kind of inquisitors.
@@KlingonCaptain ah, I see what you did there!
Like… a security bureau with dapper white military uniforms and unchecked authority
@@passiondono I wouldn't recommend a group with unchecked authority. But a group who could help investigate issues within the order.
The Jedi High Council reports to the Senate.
And Jedi are realizing they don't report to the council if they want to keep secrets...
With this type of freedom. Technically the higher-ranked members of the order have unchecked authority to do their own thing, if they just don't inform the council.
@@Peter_The_Great I was kind of joking and alluding to the imperial security bureau
He was green Jedi's padawan, he's using the twins to get her out of the temple to confront her personally.
Now that's an interesting idea.
That seems most likely to me as well.
@@emaldir4067usually the simplest ideas tend to be what get shown on screen.
@@emaldir4067 And being quite a stretch unless he got a massive boost to his fortune teller stat. But we still don't know how he even met Mae, so who knows, but so far I don't see that being the case.
Honestly I wouldn't put it past him.
That scar on his back looks more like a lightning strike to me. Wouldnt a whip still leave a single slash ? The plot suggest a light whip but idk .....that scar is really jagged as if it was multiple attacks or force lightning .
ahhh i like this take interesting
@GenerationTech are you Muslim?
in an interview the actress said "prongs" of her lightwhip. to be pronged, there needs to be at least 2 tips. I wonder if it splits at the end sometimes
@@TheDarkPorkinsbut a split end would make multiple, somewhat parallel straight marks, not one curvy branching scar
Wouldn't surprise me if it was a punishment by his sith master as the scar looks deep like someone really took there time inflicting it on him
Qimir is just a very very naughty boy . Each to their own .
Well from my point of view the jedi are evil
Oooh yes he is! I could fix him😂😂😂😂
@Fuzzmo147 I just made a comment some where that is the reaction Disney was trying to get from peeps
Don't worry too much about the myrrh next time.
“You want to know how I got these scars? You see, my sith master…”
“I got punished for something I never did, and you sir, will never get punished, even for things you did do”
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"And what happened was... I saw the Jedi do it but..."
"A little fight in you, i like that."
Thank you. The scar is force lightening. I think he was kicked out by his sith master too. I think he is looking for his second in order to overthrow whoever the real sith is.
Wondering if Qimir was subject to a padawan purge (possibly Vernestra) or if his Sith master is responsible?
Darth teeth quoting Jordan Peterson was not on my Star Wars, the acolyte bingo card
Hello 👋 to all fans and haters of Jordan Peterson.
If the show portrays Kimir more like a darker version of Jordan Peterson what bits would you like him to do ?
Personally I would like him to base his hole philosophy on lobsters and/ or make a costume with his life’s story told in pictures on it.
@@TomTriyingtothink Please give him a lobster rant
@@WasThisMail Okay so Soul and May burst into Kimirs layer.
Soul: RELEASE OSHA !!!
Kimir: Of course but first you must observe these lobsters.
Soul: What ?
May: Oh no we are going to be here for a while.
Kimir: You see in this pod of lobsters everything is ordered in a perfect hierachy under the guidance of the green one.
Soul: What has this got to do with anything ??
Kimir: But then a lobster hatches that dosen't fit into the pod maybe he is stronger than the others, maybe he has a different fighting style or maybe he just dosen't like sand.
Osha: You seem to know way to much about lobsters.
Kimir: The other lobsters in the pod try to force him to fit in but by doing so they push him further away and then the dark lobster takes him in and makes him even stronger.
But the dark lobster dosen't stop there he gets a scool of helmet fish to join the pod of lobsters and then arfter 66 days he orders the helmet fish and his lobster apprentice to DESTROY THE POD AND TAKE OVER THE OCEAN !!!!!!
Soul: Kimir I ...
Kimir: HEED THE LESSONS OF THE LOBSTERS OR YOU WILL SUFFER THE SAME FATE AS THEM !!!!
Soul: Kimir I don't know what you have been smooking but can we leave with Osha now ?
Kimir: Yes but only if you buy my new book "12 rules for jedi life"
@@TomTriyingtothink love it
The Stranger is unreliable, his lack of answer to if it was his Jedi master specifically who did that made me feel he just wanted Osha to draw that conclusion herself. I can't wrap my head around how Venestra could be made to punish a padawan like that.
@@ZakHac he's probably misrepresenting events (seduction through ideas or in the strangers case, actual seduction) and that's how the sith or dark side people, can sway people to their side
@@ZakHac or she might be actually evil... we'll find out
I stumbled across your channel maybe 2 weeks ago and I just want to say thank God . What a breathe of fresh air. I was so tired of videos just hating on everything so negative. Love your approach and your takes. Thank you
Thank you for covering new content with genuine interest and not just rage baiting like a lot of others in the space seem to be doing. I appreciate you immensely.
The fact they revealed both Qimir's scar and the Light Whip in the same episode certainly seems to make us connect the two - but that could be foreshadowing, or a fun misdirect to add to our growing suspicions about Vernestra. The fact this show has us asking all these questions 3/4 of the way through the season is the mark of a good mystery. I WANT to know the truth, but I am afraid of what learning the truth may do to my feelings for these characters. It's compelling storytelling, even in spite of some of the shows flaws.
No, that's not the sign of a good mystery, that's the sign of an unnecessarily convoluted plot. When the audience is kept artificially ignorant of information the main characters know, that's not a mystery, that's bad faith on the part of the writers.
@@kirkdarling4120 have you ever watched a movie? Or read a book? That is a very, very common thing. Sounds like you'd enjoy just reading wookipedia after the show is finished airing 😁
I wonder if this is Disney bringing that story into Canon, where the Jedi masters went crazy and tried to kill all their Padawans to stop them from going to the Darkside
It's already Canon in a way. Luke went crazy and tried to kill his nephew because he had a vision Ben Solo was going to the dark side. Tunes in with the Jedi the actual reason dark siders/Sith exist.
I was looking at the real life ages of the actors for Qimir and Osha. 37 and 25. Qimir saying a long time ago could be 20-25 years. Maybe he left the Jedi as a teen. In that timeline he and Osha would have never crossed paths at the temple.
If Qimir was in The Order, was he expelled as a youngling or as a padawan? Perhaps he even made knight. Rather harsh if those were lightwhip scars on his back, so it must've been a fight.
Yeah the ages and some knowing each other but others not knowing each other is a bit of a stretch. So Qimir may be lying about being in The Order as a Jedi...perhaps he was there in another capacity, which would explain why he knows a thing or two about the goings-on.
Qimir is 'The Acolyte'.
This is what I think
No. An Acolyte is an apprentice of an apprentice. It's been confirmed that Qimir is a Sith Lord but he's not the master.
@@Tyrone-Ward who confirmed he's a sith lord?
@@smash_lab_creationsDisney refers to him as sith lord at least. But yeah that could just be smoke too
Acolytes all the way down...
It just seems incredibly coincidental that the scars and the whip were revealed in the same episode for them not to be connected.
Yeah very shit
Jason ? Jason !....Oh man, that's a really low point 😂😂😂
Jason figured it out? Jason?!
@@alexthegamer8433 Yeah, this one hurt 😂😂
Hey Allen, I also want to say that from the POV of a Geologist, the Kortosis deposit on that island makes enough sense to fall within "this is jussssst close enough to reality to be allowed to stretch"
Basically, you can expect to find native metals on an extinct volcanic island like the one shown, but a vein that thick would be exceedingly rare as well as horizontal rather than vertical in a lot of cases this vein would have formed as debris solidifying in a melt and falling to rest at the bottom of the magma chamber. This debris being grains of kortosis that then weld together to create the mineral lattice of the Pegmatite shown on screen (but 90 degrees rotated :P )
Also, it would be more likely to form an oxide or sulfate mineral than the native metal if it was formed where this was in the basaltic environment of the island.
Anyway, I'll press play on the video and let you talk about the writing, LOL
Thank you for your insight. If i remember though in the book it definitely wasn't an island.
As someone who is NOT a geologist so would know less overall about this than you likely do, wouldn't some of these answers be able to explain it being vertical?
1.) The vein originally was horizontal but formed near the edge of a tectonic plate that, when it collided with the other plates, slowly overtime changed the angle to be more vertical
2.) The vein location was originally something like a Lava Tree Mold and then a later eruption that had the cortosis (or whatever mechanism that happens to cause cortosis to form) found that opening and, if cortosis was more dense than the surrounding liquid rocks, ended up filling the bottom of it with the other metals floating above it
3.) The vein location was originally the spot of something like a Karst Fissure that later filled up with cortosis when that was formed (likely meaning that there's a horizontal layer somewhere higher up the rock strata it's just not visible due to the surrounding rocks
@@RobertHinchey Fun Fact: We got 2 main veins in this episode!
Could just be an extremely nuggety, high-grade hydrothermal vein, eh? Maybe kortosis likes to precipitate out in the presence of salt water, or some such.
Solid theories. The Qimir/Vernestra connection is blatantly telegraphed but so was the Qimir reveal, so I expect it to be the case. My big concern is the show *won't* have any "big twists." There were lots of little hints particularly in the first 3 episodes and they're starting to look like red herrings. We'll have to see the last 2 episodes but Acolyte still needs to justify describing itself as a "mystery show." If you look at The Sixth Sense, Fight Club, etc. what makes the shows work is you *could* have seen the big reveal coming if you paid close enough attention. If there isn't enough foreshadowing, it's a bad twist. And if there's foreshadowing without the reveal, it's even worse. None of which would make the show bad, overall, it just means it's not really a mystery show, and we need to be sparing with the word "twist."
Good points regarding twist endings. Mysteries don't necessarily have all the foreshadowing, but the writers must play fair with the audience: The audience should be told everything the investigator knows, learning new details as the investigator does. The writer isn't playing fair when the investigator's knowledge is being kept from the audience. That's more like summer camp counselors telling ghost tales over the campfire.
I have a feeling that Peterson *himself* might be quoting something. It sounds like that kind of line to me, not something Peterson originated.
That would make more sense.. though I think using someone whose claim to fame was being an asshole to college kids also makes sense as inspiration for a villain
The depths of our despair is a direct quote from Jordan Peterson
@@Dwapook
@Dwapook I guess he's a villain. If you consider giving good advice and correcting college students about their stupid ideologies is wrong, then yeah, he's a villain🙄
😂😂😂😂
@@Wyomingchief being respectful about how someone prefers to be addressed isn’t some great battle to be fought, being antagonistic about it isn’t something to take pride in. The guy is good at sounding smart, but I remember him being full of hot air and broken ideas, it’s been a long time since I’ve examined him though.. it’s kind of foggy in my mind
The original full quote is
"Wherever I go in the world people come up to me and they often have a pretty rough story to relate. It's an awful thing because you see, even in the revelation of their Triumph, the initial depth of their despair."
It's just an astute observation of the journey of broken people. When they triumph over their brokenness or their struggles, the joy they express or exude is proportionate to how bad off they were when they started to turn their life around.
Also, JP never refused to address any specific person by their pronoun. He objected to a law that coerced compliance and attempted to force people to not "misgender". There's a big difference there. Government should never be able to tell people what they can and can't say and they especially shouldn't be able to tell people what they MUST say. That was his objection and imo he was right to object on those grounds.
As viewers of this awesome channel, let's continue to support Alan's dedication to nuance by practicing the same approach in his comments section.
I would even say there is absolutely nothing political or divisive about this specific quote whatsoever.
its nice hearing you talk about and explain the show in detail unlike a lot of other youtubers that just complain about it
I wouldn't be surprised if Qimir is just a fallen jedi. I do love theories, but sometimes I feel expectations can ruin a show. So I take all theories as a grain of salt. That doesn't mean I don't hope my favorite theories come true.
BTW Thank you, Generation Tech, for typically scripting your channel less opinionated. I love to learn without embracing my hatred, lol. ❤
7:44 I've been trying to tell people this SINCE he said that line 😂
Exactamundo - audiences need to consider phrasing: Qimir suggests and Sol considers, but nothing is either declarative or conclusive that Qimir is of the Sith doctrine just because he’s contrarian against the Order’s dogma
Allen, this is awesome. This show is giving us such a great new conduit through which we can enjoy and speculate about the Star Wars universe. I'm really so happy the Acolyte is turning out to be so good.
I can see that it's genuinely giving you content and topics you're excited to explore-- and the authenticity of that love for Star Wars just radiates in your enthusiasm in videos like this one.
Dude, I love this show. Also, love this channel. Cheers, pal. Great video.
Sleeping on an old spring mattress. That's why you gotta flip your mattress every 6 months
hehe
😂😂😂
They went from Smilo Ren to Darth Man meat
D'oh! Stupid sexy Qimir!
Why is everyone so stuck on the rule of two shit, ventress was a sith apprentice, maul was a sith, savage opress was a sith all these people lived at the same time for a while in addition to count dooku and emperor palpatine. And if you don’t consider those people sith, without a master or apprentice how could you consider qimir a sith? Stop being babies and enjoy the show. This is some great Star Wars and I’m tired of hearing people cry about breaking cannon. Not every Jedi knows everything. That’s the whole point of the prequels don’t take everything so literal and pray they don’t ruin Star Wars like they’re doing with marvel.
Wanna know how I got these scares? -The Joker
Why so serious?
More interested in how he got those scars
scares? Lol
BOO!
Hey wassup guys it’s scares here!! 🌲🙋🏻♂️
Damn this was a phenomenal theory. The bacta tank point makes so much sense.
It's possible that this is a bit too obvious, and the reveal of Vernestra's lightsaber whip and Qimir's scar in the same episode is a bit of a red herring. After all, the whip mark splits, which is more indicative of Force lightning. Qimir might have started off as a Jedi (maybe even as Vernestra's padawan), but it's possible that after being rejected as a Jedi, he sought a new master who also eventually discarded him.
qimir's line was a jordan peterson quote? that's wild
I thought Jordan himself was quoting that quote, but is it really his?
@@mycelia_ow I haven't watched the original interview it was pulled from, but yes it appears to be his original quote. or rather, a paraphrase thereof. his actual quote being :
"Wherever I go in the world people come up to me and they often have a pretty rough story to relate. It's an awful thing because you see, even in the revelation of their Triumph, the initial depth of their despair."
the broader context is that these people who come up to him are describing having been through depression and contemplated self harm and deletion
Leaving this comment to air out my own thoughts :
I'm emphatically not a JP fan, but I do believe he has helped folks out of very dark places. Self-harm and self-deletion are incredibly delicate topics, and I'm honestly a little shocked the show would choose to lift a quote about individuals who contemplate it. Making a political statement that even indirectly trivializes the subject is crossing the most crimson of lines.
JP is a horrible person.
@@claudegrenier3180how
I noticed the light whip seemed to remain a rigid blade until the green lady (can’t remember the name for the life of me) flings it backwards. Perhaps the light whip’s, well… whip effect can be toggled with a switch?
IT was the SOUP!!
His Scar is also on the back of his helmet
The way you describe a dark Jedi yearning for their former life brings to mind Baylan Skoll. The Jedi certainly were good at alienating their members.
Man I miss Baylan Skoll already, Star Wars villains are always so fun l
@@GenerationTech my hope is that they can continue his story while still giving respect to Ray Stevenson’s fantastic performance.
What a cursed thumbnail 🤣
He got the Yord treatment on the thumbnail.
too soon mannnn
Looks normal to me
@@GenerationTech “You brought the thumbnail here.”
We could be looking at Canon Tenebrous and Plagueis. It would make half the fandom lose their minds, but the species of both Tenebrous and Plagueis is Legends.
I like how Alan dives into dialogues spoken in episodes 🙂
I hope it's not obvious who gave him those scars
Its seems like most of the twist are pretty obvious, there's a lot of foreshadowing involved and clues being dropped i think
They show Qimir's whip-like scars in the same episode where they introduce a whip-like lightsaber... he claims to be a former Jedi, probably a padawan considering his rougher skills, who clearly has some baggage about his previous master... and Vernestra seems pretty keen on hiding certain things from the Jedi Council and/or the Republic Senate, particularly in regards to mistakes and failures within the Jedi Order... it could all be a red herring, sure, but it does all fit nicely with what we've learned so far.
Introducing a new character in the 3rd act is generally not a good idea. So it is safe to assume it is Vernestra. The details of how this came to pass, will be interesting nonetheless.
@@GenerationTech the real mystery is not any of the mini mysteries that are set up and then revealed immediately, the real mystery is “how dark can the Jedi get?”
@@GenerationTech Are we sure Qirmir doesn't have a form of self loathing like Issac from Castlevania's season 1😅 Maybe Qimir a little freaky🤭🤭
Honestly i think Qimir could be one of the first Knights of Ren. Only because when we see him a few times in the armor you hear Kylo's theme. Also is it just me but his "Red" lightsaber has some Pink mixed in.
Go, Alan, go!!!!!📣
Lightning stroke scar... hmmm... *big grin* "You're a sith lord Darth Potter!"
I just want to say I appreciate the approach you take with Star Wars on your channel. When you praise something, it's not with an over-exaggerated effusiveness (is that a word?) and when you are critical about something, you don't take it as a personal affront (which I see with a lot of channels that have a larger audience, built through ragebaiting) It's really showed in your approach to The Acolyte & I just wanted to say thanks.
This is pretty obvious, that Qimir isn’t a Jedi, just a DJ from Jacksonville, Florida.
I think Qimir needs to clean his room.
Hey at least his mattress isn’t on the floor
If you look at pictures of scars made by whips, they don’t look jagged and curved. Instead the whip cuts straight lines. But it just might be that the light whip has different damage than a typical Earth whip.
Thanks for the video.
Generation Tech Rules!!!!🧡💛
8:25 Respect for the balls where you said you listened to him.
I haven't listened to really much that he said, but because you said "a controversial figure" I respect that and it helped to even further support your message of "let's talk more to one another with more respect so this whole democracy thing can keep on working", since your once again moving ahead as an example.
interesting I hadn't considered him in a bacta tank for long duration to extend his age.
Man I have always loved your channel it's now my favourite one on UA-cam you can actually have a talk about this show without salt and look at it dare I say without bias I love it I know you are a diehard star wars fan so freshing
Watching a man i admire (allen) speak about another man i admire (jordan) really fills me with joy
Ok low key, this has become my favorite lore channel by far
Taking you from your family and then expelling you later is messed up 😂
It is odd that they wouldn't return the youngling to their family. But, perhaps the family too rejects the child that they were told to let go of, leaving them as orphans.
What a way to grow up. In a strict monastery that doesn't encourage exploration or otherwise truly feeling the emotions that make them "people".
@@orokusaki1243 yep. It’s creepy and unnatural . I think it’s cool to explore . It’s just done clumsily ( in my opinion) .
@@bestlexluthor7596 Also, the service core existed, and we see Yord becoming knight in his early 30's.
"Discarding" is odd, and might have meant prison for Dark-siders as we saw Offee ending up there after expulsion.
Other sources speak of stasis cells at Jedi temples on distant worlds where such Dark-siders may be held and possibly "counseled".
That Green Jedi with Purple lightsaber
honestly could have left it as a cop bringing a gun can quickly escalate things lol
I dunno. I COULD see this going the route of one of the twins becoming the apprentice, and becoming a female version of Darth Tenebrous. This is NOT a commentary. Just an observation that Osha's good at working with machines, they could be tweaking it a bit. Sith don't ALWAYS make it to old age, so there's plenty of time for her to become Darth Tenebrous, then train Plageous in time for Palpatine.
Alan, a couple nights ago I came up with this same idea of imri being qimir , and its exciting to now hear you say it. I was not familiar with the character as I have not read the books, but with the lightsaber whip scars I began researching vernestras past and he fits the bill in a lot of ways. It even still leaves it open for a connection w tenebris, as a possible early apprentice.
“I sent them there”
Yup, makes a ton of sense. Also, I'm dead sure that the Jedi party on Brandok killed all those quasi-Nightsisters. Question is why would Vernestra order that herself then?
The only guy out there with a positive look on Star Wars. Completely baffled that the majority of the channels that literally make their living off of the saga, are working hard to convince subs to not watch anything. I don't expect pandering, dishonesty and glowing reviews, but sheesh, it's like they want to kill off their cash cow lol. I mean (no names mentioned, but he caught some tears) even the biggest SW channel has resorted to shatting on the franchise. Maybe they got the stink eye from the Mouse for being too critical, and now they striking back.
Check out Rebel Force Radio if you enjoy measured, comprehensive analysis while also maintaining a critical eye. I often enjoy Generation Tech and Rebel Force Radio together. Some of the best conversations about Star Wars.
his' a space vampire that consume his acolyte, when they're ripe..
and, Sol is the father of twins , donate some of his midichlorian
to the Space Witches.
Is Qimir "Darth Kinkmir" confirmed ?
I came to the exact same conclusion when he showed his wound
It appears that the Jedi have committed the ultimate hubris, by keeping secrets from each other. Qimir knows something and it's connected to Vernestra; she can see the who is responsible. Are the sisters just pawns in this game of revenge? I think in another reality, Qimir and Jecki would've been friends and Yord would've found someone to balance his awkwardness.
15:00 bacta tanks weren't invented until 15 minutes after Qui-Gon Jinn had died. So I don't think Bacta tank is in Qimir's youthful look.
Maybe he's just not Human?
I like the stasis pod idea. Those Jedi games are awesome.
Alan you're bangin out these uploads, appreciate you brother 🙏🏻
I don't think he wanted to kill Jedi. He said something to the effect of "I just want to live".
Alan, what was the conventional use of Cortosis? How was it used in ships and was it ever used in the DS1 and 2? Did it help in the main firing laser? Could it be used to deflect a blaster bolt? The Mandalorian must've found it somewhat useful in their armor, especially against the Jedi? Could it resist Sith lightening? As a metal it seems fragile yet there must be more conventional uses for it in the wider galaxy if not in combat, in power plants on Naboo etc?
Like the theory of Qimir being connected to Vernestra Rwoh.
Given how convoluted and overly-dramatic that final line was, it actually makes sense that its a Jordan Peterson quote; that guy's very skilled at SOUNDING more intelligent than he is. Thank you for bringing up this connection, I look forward to your exploration of this depiction of the dark side! You'll win no love from the angry online incel crowd, but it will be their loss.
You unfortunately do NOT sound smart, because you aren't.
@@hitmixhyepock9405oohlala someone got a nerve touched 😂 poor you
@hitmixhyepock9405 *gently patting you on the shoulder* It's okay, kid; you'll learn one day. Hopefully, sooner rather than later."
How dumb do you have to be to confuse Socrates with Jordan Peterson? Like I get he's the most recent person to have been heard saying it. But history is real its out there. You just have to read it. This just shows both sides of the Fandom are filled with dumb duche bags, that spit out whatever any other popular youtuber says.
I’ve tried to find this supposed wisdom JP fanboys claim he has and I come up with nothing.
The guy literally said that society is fundamentally moe unfair to males because they aren’t allowed to hit women anymore 😂
Sorry incels, you’ll never be taken seriously when these kinds of dudes are your thought leaders.
qimir is the better man
hes more at peace than all of the jedi and has more power
aspire to be as succint and as succesful as qimir
You were right the first time the correction wasn't needed. Armed Police almost always do escalate hostilities and are useless at calming crowds.
If those marks on his back are from a Light saber whip she must be a damn good with it hitting someone without slicing him to pieces, she must really barley touching him with it, unless she used a normal whip. I would say they are more marks from force lighting.
You mention Daggan Gareth and didn't get in a TANALOR IS MINE!!! quote?
Not sure if I should feel ashamed for you or be impressed by your great willpower.
Lot of good background information on this vid that helps fill some of the context especially related to the oversight standpoint for the Republic and the Jedi. I think you are on to something with regards to the Police overextension issue with regards to the Jedi as well. I do wonder though if something else happened between the events of this period and episode 1 given how restricted Qui-Gon (not a paragon of acting purely by the book) was so hesitant to intervene in Naboo (despite lack of authorization) and really it was Amidala who drove the entire intervention that resolved it. The Jedi of the Acolyte appear to strain against any restriction on their authority while they appear far more reticent in the prequel period (especially Episode I).
The Peterson quote in Ep. 5 caught me completely offguard and somehow hit me more than I thought coming from this character.
But only because I heard it before and can somewhat relate to it. I don't think it clicked with most people who heard it the first time, and I don't think it was too well set up to be more meaningful to a wider audience.
Carbon Freezing
Makes sense considering Vanestra's lightsaber is purple.
I would be a little more judicious in use of extended media as the source for material. Especially since Disney essentially dropped anything and everything that wasn't in a series, a cartoon, a movie, or something official in a non-book format. They're doing what Star Trek has been doing for decades: Disavowing anything not in official content. Books, unfortunately in both scenarios, are not considered canon unless explicitly stated (this extended universe material isn't considered canon by Disney).
As such, it should be assumed that that former material (regardless of quality) is out the window. It's a mixed blessing, but that's how it works now.
Im calling force lightning on the scars
I would've thought that a light whip strike would probably cut you nearly in half the same as a saber so yeah a long time in stasis to heal such a horrible wound make sense.
I thought the scar looked more like it came from force lightning.
Interesting hypothesis...."always in motion, the future is, difficult to see", 😔!!!
Yeah, but Yord, recognized Darth Teeth before his neck got broke.
Yeah…because they met in the apothecary shop…?
@@jasonmarbach Yord is most likely talking about the presence in the force as they are in a saber lock which connects the 2 force users minds because of the kyber crystal
@@PBST_RAIDZ man, WHAT 🤣
@@jasonmarbach oh yeah. whoops. my bad, i thought there was something there.
@@jasonmarbach yeah, feeling your duel opponent through the force when you lock blades is emerging lightsaber lore. Think I heard about it on GF first.
Considering I just learned from @orokusaki1243 comment that Vernestra had a twin sister who also used a whip, I'm guessing: Qimir is the twin sister's pupil. Vernestra using a whip is misdirection/red herring to convince you she's his master. She could be seeking Qimir OR her twin sister (my vote is on sister). Two sets of twins, one a pair of opposing masters and the other a pair of opposing pupils. Each twin seeking the other. Each with a difficult path of confronting the other twin; like they're confronting themself. Fits the Lucas style of "it's like poetry, they rhyme, every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one"
Great video and content against, very interesting theories as well, keep up great work
If the audio description says he's a Sith, then he's a Sith.
Yep I agree. She just acts shady.
Thanks Alan👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
He is obviously a fallen angel. The scars are from losing his wings.
His helmet is actually from Darth Momin. 😂
You ever see that crazy film legion
@@GenerationTech yeah. I would kinda love to see wild stuff like that in some star wars show eventually.
Very much think you're on the right track, green jedi is the master that wounded him. Storytelling 101 is the mystery box character is someone you've already seen or heard mentioned already as build-up.
Both Vanestra Ro and Kimir seem like cases of "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Both have seen so much trauma, hardship and corruption that in order to survive both physically and mentally they turned corrupt themselves.
And even if Kimir isn't a TRUE Sith yet, I think he's been researching them a lot. He seems to know a lot about them and their ways, to the point of outright quoting parts of their doctrine. "Peace is a lie" and "The Force shall set me free."
I don’t think Qimir is a true Sith. The Jedi have volumes upon volumes of data about the sith in their archives including sith holocrons. It’s more practical for him to gain access to Sith teachings through the Jedi temple as a former Jedi than it is for him to find a true Sith Lord to mentor him. I think it’s more likely he’s self taught and just identifies as Sith. “The power of two” Qimir refers to is already established in canon. It’s a special bond acknowledged by both Jedi and Sith: The master and the apprentice. This does not mean he follows “the rule of two” created by Bane or even knows about Bane’s lineage of Sith Lords.
Though, can a Jedi open a Sith holocron? Seems not, if you go by what we saw in Rebels. Though anyone who uses the Dark Side to open it, should be able to - Jedi or otherwise. Which Jedi are volunteering to use the Dark Side to open up acquired Sith holocrons?
The Dyad would be the ultimate version of the "power of two", but there could certainly be lesser degrees.
Qimir says to Sol that he might "be considered a Sith". That doesn't exactly imply that he believes himself to be one or that he is otherwise proclaiming to be one. Writers can be quite deliberate in their phrasing in order to evoke certain understandings from the audience.
I feel so sorry for him in that thumbnail I mean you broke his neck so badly that it make his head swell up my about 25% I don’t even know how that’s biologically possible? 😂 also I know I wouldn’t still be smiling if my head was on backwards 😅
Awesome insight!!!!
I'd be very surprised if his scarring wasn't from sort sort of whip.
Qimir is basically the emo Dark Jedi.
One thing I find odd that maybe Allen could explain in a subsequent video is that if the Jedi are so concerned about force sensitives outside of their control, how would they ever allow someone they had been training to ever leave their supervision/active surveillance as such person would be a potential loose cannon especially if they left at the sensitive time of being a padawan or knight. I can see letting masters like Dooku may retire on their own recognizance as the order would trust them too much at that level, but letting a padawan or even pre-padawan who has begun to tap their force powers just wander loose seems odd. I had thought from previous videos that those who didn't make it to padawan were still kept in the order but just given mundane assignments like the agri-corps. They weren't allowed to leave though. Did the Jedi have some way that they thought they could strip someone leaving the order of their force sensitivity, but in their hubris didn't realize it wasn't permanent, so they thought they had neutralized the threat. It just seems like an organization like the Jedi could not just let their former students wander at will, almost to the point of "imprisoning" them at the Jedi Temple if they had to. Kind of Hotel California, "You can check out any time you want, but you can never leave."
As long as they are not trying to make Qimir another version of "Reborn Revan" as a token crumb to the Legends Fandom. Reven deserves better, and Qmir has more character potential as a new character than that.
Fallen Jedi with Sithly aspirations (doomed to failure as the names are known) is a good bet.
His wounds are less lightwhip and more lightsaber tipscribble (Zorro style) or other energy discharge (lightning?).