7.6 Chinese Pinyin r IS NOT English r | Pronunciation - ChineseFor.Us Pinyin Drills Course
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It's always the letter R that get complicated to pronounce when I learn new language. Why cant we just agree to roll our rrrr? 😅
慢慢来。Practice makes perfect! 加油!💪
This is sooooo helpful!!! I had a hard time explaining how to pronounce the R sound for my students. Now it's so clear! Thanks a lot.
You're welcome!! I'm glad it is helpful. Good luck with your teaching!
其实您可理解为,拼音的【r】就是英语音标的/ʒ/于decision的s音。
My God,this lady teached me in 60 second what i didn't learn in the last 12 months ahahahaahh and my girlfriend is chinese.she is always saying that i speak chinese like a japanese.starting to pratice this everyday starting now. thank you so much to the teacher.
your relationship still strong? if it is then congrats mate!
Give me 10 years and I get it all :D
@艾米 oh my god you gonna check me? at some point i just stopped
@@2sdd We definatelly have to check that you're practising
@@fairyfellermasterstroke help me please
@@DjaildoQSjr i practice writing bopomofo so i could write nice postcards to my female friend from taiwan. i dont think i ever start talking tho without moving to asia :( i can ask 你吃了吗 :X
5 more years, you got this. 💪
For those who likes phonetics, it's the [ʐ] sound, but for those who are wondering why words like 二 (pinyin: èr; it means two) or 儿 (pinyin: ér; it can be used as a suffix in Northern China, but it also means son) sound like R in American English, that's because at the end of a word it's basically the curled pirate version [ɻ] ^^
I get so confused because my Chinese teacher pronounces it with the English r sound but I always hear the sh/z from other Chinese speakers
0:38 starts sounding like a violin now
Alright, so Ж it is.
this is so difficult, man. 😭😭😭
Hello Kushi. In Mandarin, there are 2 R sounds, we can pronounce it as the "s" in "pleasure" or the "r" in "red", but lips are unrounded.
Honestly
I am a native Mandarin speaker. Honestly, this sound varies the most by accent. If you just pronounce it with the standard English “r” sound, no one will notice or think you have an accent. It’s your vowels and tones that will make you sound like you have an accent.
銳 = ray
This is helpful, I started to learn chinese mandarin, and the "r" looks the most complicated one.
when you cant do this because of something for your braces ;-;
Enri NoLastName ahh shiiiiiit
for some reason, I read "When you can't do this because of bees"
It's similar to the letter j in French except for the 'sh' sound in there is softer. I'd say it's between the French j and the English r.
This.
This was very helpful! This is the first sound I have run into that has stumped me, and I knew I needed some extra explanation. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
The same as /ʒ/ sound in "deciSion", and if you pronounce "sion" in the rising second tone, it becomes rén (people) in the word "RMB".
Thanks 👍
Actually, it's a [ʐ] sound, the voiced version of /sh/ [ʂ]. The /s/ in decision is, indeed, a [ʒ] sound, but that's just a /j/ in Portuguese or French, although it's really similar to the Mandarin Chinese one
Thanks
Thank you! This is helpful. I could tell it was different but couldn’t understand how
Wow this helps so much. Thanks a lot!
English Tutorial: Make SH sound and make it voiced.
Russian: Just say "Ж" (We already have a letter for this sound, so XDD)
The vowel after the pinyin R also resembles the Russian Ы, so "zi ci si zhi chi shi ri" are basically "цы цʰы сы тшы тшʰы шы жы". Except that Russian orthography doesn't allow "жы шы", so "цы цʰы сы тши тшʰи ши жи". Also, "ji qi xi" = "чи чʰи щи".
This was actually the most useful tutorial I've had on it. It's just a voiced Chinese sh sound! I approximated the R sound for 人 (rén), but then noticed I was unable to make the sound with any other vowel following (like in "ru"). It turns out, that's just because my tongue was in the wrong position when approximating the R sound. Thank you for this!
So glad it helped!
Best explanation!!!
I watched a few other videos on this and I think I can provide a straightforward cue without such detailed and possibly confusing tongue positioning instructions.
So the sound is produced basically like you're trying to blend a "j-r" sound, which exists in English but is executed differently. So for "person" in Mandarin you need to say "jrun", but you need to extend the j sound like you're slurring your words, make it VERY soft and almost nonexistent. It becomes more like "jjjrun". It sounds better in a sentence like "Are you Chinese?" because it flows from the previous word. I guess it's like saying English words like "drug" or "drum" but you're really slurring the initial sound.
** Hmm, I need to revise this. The sound seems to be more like a very short "yur" before the word. The instructions in this video are actually pretty helpful, but I'm trying to present it in a different way. So for "person", it sounds like "yur-run" but the first syllable is very quick and not emphasized. It's like making the sound all in one's throat, but makes a word like "ri" pretty awkward.
@NRG You nailed it with this description
lol i can make this sound because this is how I would pronounce the spanish "rr" when I was little.
i still cant roll my tongue mate. it's rough
But it's nothing like the Spanish "rr".
@@chiaraippoliti I know it's not. It's just that I couldn't pronounce the Spanish "rr" when I was little
Thank you!!
谢谢 !
别客气!
this video was the best! thanks!
Thanks for such a great feedback! Appreciated!
谢谢🙏🏾
谢谢。。 恭喜发财。。
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I’m having such a hard time making this sound 😭
So when it's at the BEGINNING of a word, it's essentially the exact same thing as an English J except the tongue is slightly more curled back/higher in the palate. Otherwise they sound essentially identical. And otherwise at the end of a word it's just an r sound.
So is the tongue near the hard palate when pronouncing an english?? I pronounce mine (english as second language) with my tongue one the floor of them mouth.
Back to school babyyyy
Thank you. So there is no difference in pronunciation from 'r' and 'ri', right (or wrong)?
Right
All these 'r' videos are about /how/ they say the 'r' sound. I was wondering if anyone knows of any Chinese words that use the 'r' sound, maybe with a different Chinese character. Not how they say it, but if it exists in Chinese speech in the English form via another symbol.
I understand what you saying, and the answer is no.But the chinese "r" when in the end of the word is basically the same as the english "r".
the word for "Japan" and "Japanese" use this "ri" sound.
This is what I was looking for because I’m like why is it not sounding like English R when Chinese say it? But now I’m like why don’t they just spell it with the SHZ or something? R is not a good representation.
Oh my word, 2 weeks in and this “r” sound is kicking my boo-tay.
I can’t figure out how to put guó and rén together 😵💫
谢谢🙏🏼
Caleb Ford 不客气!
What's the difference between the pronunciation of 日,热,and 至?。i.e. Ri,re, and zhi sound the same?
There's subtle differences between the sounds, we go into detail about it on our course page: chinesefor.us/courses/learn-chinese-pinyin-pronunciation/
holy SHIT this was the best way to explain it !!!
And some people think the French R is difficult...I feel stressed out just trying to pronounce the R in Mandarin...😭😭😭😭😭
I'm here as I am studying my TEFL course uwhoo ai its thafu😭🤣🤣
É estranho pq o japonês (que não tem o som de L) veio do chinês (que não tem o som de R)
I still don't get it. How can r be pronounced as "z"?
How do we say 2 in Mandarin
I see that many asian languages have true sounds l and r
Wait but 2 does sound like r in Mandarin...
yap.when in the end of any word is really a pure R
Lol, Chinese phonology (at least consonants) seems to be very similar to Polish one!
P Lrc Really? I didn't know that! Thanks!
Just compare the Polish and Chinese tables of consonats at Wikipedia :D I connot paste IPA symbols here, but they are almost identic!
How do you pronounce MATHILDE
is it pronunciated like S in meaSure?
Anh Châu I can say pretty close. Imagine in English, when you want someone to be quiet you make a pinyin “shi” sound (exact same sound but that sounds like an extended one “shiiiiii”). Then just eliminate the consonant “s”. Then you should probably get it.
Exactly. Also, it's /ʒ/.
Not really. It varies by accent.
Ughhh I've watched so many videos for this sound and it's still not clicking 😭
you can do it!
0:52
Still confused 😂
So it sounds more like a j than r.
PinYin [r] is exactly /ʒ/ in IPA. It's like the "s" in "television".
rudrani to Chinese please help
Saya bisa suara R ERRRRRR
I can't do that.
Show the man.
xiE xie
Saya bisa suara R ERRRRRR