Great book, with a lot of insight. The power you gain from understanding possible future scenarios is knowing how to act, what ideas to stand behind, and what to stand against. We shouldn't forget that our individual actions and decisions contribute to the future of SA.
Joseph Hamby If you were highly intelligent you' d realise that no amount of whinging, moaning or old-skool Neo-nazi disparaging or belittling chat is going to change the situation. Things have changed, done, dusted. Adjust or Pack up!
South Africa's Cyril Ramaphosa, the new leader of the governing party ANC, said on Thursday he aims to pursue a policy of "radical economic transformation" that will speed up expropriation of land without compensation. This include Industry, Mining, Farm land and even suburbs. This is Africa western rules don't apply here.
Bastia ... did you learn who invented the elevator in your African school? Your comment proves how dumb you are. The truth, for posterity's sake, is Harry Waterman, in 1850, invented the elevator (that would have been when Alexander Miles, a black man who many blacks think invented the elevator, was about 12 yrs old). It was crude by today's standards. Elisha Otis (of the famous Otis Elevator company) vastly improved upon Waterman's invention in 1853, by inventing the elevator safety brake. In 1857, Otis demonstrated HIS steam powered elevator in New York. One of Otis' elevators was installed in the world's first skyscraper which was in Chicago in 1885 (where I was born and raised and know my Chicago history).
Daily Events ... So in Africa, cutting off your nose to spite your face works so well...meanwhile, in civilized countries, we all know this behavior is for children who haven't learned the rules that make a civilized society function well. All the best to you in your ignorance. Ramaphosa doesn't give a sh*t about the outcome of his policies ... he lives a completely different life from 98% of black South Africans.
+bastia Mars what theives??? 1947 papers show we bought our land from the SOUTH AFRICAN NATIVES - Bantu are not South African Natives!!! but We somehow STOLE your land???? this is not west africa???
I'm ashamed to admit I'm South African. Such a shame as the country is full of stunning potential but also extreme in beauty and cruelty (people and landscape). Where is the compassion, kindness and love? Nothing has changed. The comments here are revolting. Racism is rampant on all sides. Everyone for himself, no thought for future generations. What about climate change and global impacts? Everyone can make a difference with every discussion and action. It says something about your values, honesty, innovation, vulnerability, collaboration. When will we learn? Put the past behind and move towards a better future together.
In a word.... A Jungle... Here's the problem. A man wanted to be boss, but didn't realize what being Boss was all about. He gathered a gang & went about in a destructive manner, until he became Boss. But then, he didn't have a place to stay & there was no food. But, he was in charge. Proof Positive that "being Bright & being in Charge", might be two different things. When the last white man has left South Africa, the lights will go off without any effort being expended by that man. The Black Africans will cause the lights to dim & go out on their own. Back to the stone age....
Spare us the white race sanctimonious moral rectitude they are not the gate keeper of light besides light has never being consigned to one specific people group even American as an old democracy has its own foibles they had their own civil no one said they were going to be irrelevant they had depression in 1930 they did not become a doomed people every country has cycle that is unique to their situation and its normal. The recalcitrant dutches or the boers are hell bend on making themselves the savior while under apartheid they were despicable human to ever grace the earth with their perversion of God's characters white people needs to delivered from the bondage of delusional think that they possess monopoly of good ideas and only consigned to them the DA is racist political party disguised as if they care about black South African look apartheid that is white monopoly of God ideas they must be careful not push our people into civil.
By 2021 drought, famine, pestilence grips the land, and by the year 2030, SA people will be as sparse as few surviving drought resistant trees. A pack of hungry hyenas sleeps on Malema's dusty bed while pride of lions roam the empty halls of the SA parliament.
I grew up in a poor family of 8 children and i hated my parents and anyone eles who had it better life then me and i blame everyone and everthing for being poor And i left home and school at 15years old And became a very angry young man who got into trouble with law and join a gang. Till one day i realise the only person who can change my life and make it better and only person who should be held accountable and responsible for it is my self. We all have the power to change this fucked up world we live in. Its not going to happen over night or weeks or even years to make it happen but it can happen if we want it to. And the 1st thing is on how we bring up our children and what we teach and show them in our own homes by our actions and behavior and respect we as parents show to wards other people from different race or a persn skin colour or a person religious beliefs or none religious beliefs or gender to them. 2nd state and local governments are held accountable and responsible for the laws in thier country . That all people are treated equal and intiled to injusticed or discrimination solely base on a person race skin colour or religion beliefs or gender or being poor should be intiled to the same legal representation in a cout of law as the person who has committed it and all people should be held accountable for their own actions and behavior to wards other people if proven in a cout of law no matter of race or the colour of their skin or religious beliefs or rich or poor. And everyperson should be payed a decent wag for a decent days work. And everyperson should have access to proper education no matter of race or the colour of their skin or religious beliefs or gender or being rich or poor. And any person who has comminted any crime againts a person must be held accountable and punish for it no matter who they are under a court of law. Because no one can help what colour there skin is or what race they are or gender they where born with. But we do have the power on how we treat or behave to other human beings unless we let other people take controll our way of thinking by puting hatered and blaming someone or something for all our trouble in our lives . And thier has been people doing that since the beginning of time in every country , race , religious beliefs. and who always suffers not the very weathy or the elilt who have the power . Just the common people and poor and uneducated do the fighting and die in all thier wars and get used to hurt or even murder innocent people for them to gain new lands and wealth or to get into power its the 1% of the worlds population who wants this bullshit to never change.
These bottom-up scenarios should be filtered against outside influences. What happens to SA if the world is drawn into a global conflict? What if SA happens to have a monopoly on some emerging essential raw material which dramatically increases the country's GDP? What if there is a conflict somewhere north of SA which results in a refugee crisis etc.
This guy is living in a dream world ,there is only one way SA will go and that is down down down to meet Zimbabwe. All the floppies will be eating each other by 2030.
There is things that people want but I don't get it people come to God Was a request for their selfish ambition whether you white or black and God will not answer you he will answer those who is called by his name who lives in the spirit it is there responsibility to call on to God to heal the land and also to bring the ungodly to repentance
Well, it sounds like this guy has just about touched every single scenario that can happen in South Africa, so how can he be wrong. Or is this a way to write a novel in such a way that you will satisfy all your readers irrespective of how the book concludes, because it will end the way they want it to end. Genius! Economists is a bit like a Witch doctor, through the bones and tell your story, but make the wording of the story so you sound much more like a Philosopher than a Glorified Book keeper. His guess is slightly better than anybody else's guess especially if you are around the braai with a Castle in the hand, but I am sure he drink too!
Wake up we live in a spiritual world surrounded by Spirits there is the holy spirit and then there's always so the Fallen Angels if my people who is called by my name will humble themselves and pray I will heal their land and drive back the enemy. Who is the people that is called by my name 10% of all whites in South Africa knows Jesus another 10% of blacks knows Jesus the rest follow other gods they don't even know that because they do not know the one who is truth therefore if those 10% of all people will humble themselves and pray God will heal the land and push back the enemy
The problem with this scenario planning narrative is the assumption or notion that the resolution of problems associated with apartheid, poverty and inequality are obvious and self evident. My view is (based on what happens in other countries), the country will evolve and survive side-by-side all its challenges. With the emergence of the younger generations and the passing of the older generations, the nature of the challenges will also mutate and people will come to accept the situation that emerge (my guess is much higher levels of poverty and equality) as pert of a normal society - unfortunately.
South Africa's Economic Growth will start to falter in 2019 with the constitutional passing of the Land Reparations Without Compensation which is another word for Governmental Eminent Domain. With the present farmers on the land being kicked out by the native South African's the first economy to crash will be the agricultural sector. in 2020 with the emigration of 8.5 to 9% being threatened by genocide, the whole SA economy will begin a massive fall begining by at least a -10% drop and much worse from 2021 and beyond. This is due to the policies being set by the EFF and the ANC for this economic and political catastrophe. South Africa's destiny is to be a ramshackled mess for the next 1000 years onward from 2020.
You don't have to wait for 2030,Anc and SACP have allready destroyed SA!Things will change for the worst from now on,only pumpkins believe in Ramaphosa's magic stick!!😂😂😁😁😂😃😃
The Cape will have declared independence by then. SA will be two countries, one will be Zimbabwe 2.0 and the other one will contain most of the whites left and will be well on the road to recovery. I am sorry if anyone finds this offensive but I prefer facts over political correctness.
@@harveysmith100 why are you offended, u just said zim 2 no one said racist, you being one sided like a leopard, well IMF just gave RSA 70 billion and the country u laughing at zimbabwe paid off IMF debt what do u have to say baaas
@@nqobilekhumalo2158 The IMF didn't give RSA 70 billion. They lent it. I was offended because Tlou Tlou assumed the Corona virus would wipe out all the Westerners.
Ok, so Frans Cronje starts his thesis statement by saying: "The REAL crisis is that the standard of living overall has been improved and created a certain expectation to be met by the ruling party, the slump in economy has made that target hard to be met". Well then why isnt the reasons for why the economy tanked in teh first place the first order of discussion and real problem?
This Dr . Frans Cronje talks in circles and difficult to understand what his message really is. He gives too many possibilities whilst naming his book " what will happen in 2030" . Any fool that buys this book can use his/her own logic with his/her own possibilities..
@@juliusmaehlich3138 tell me is there free food or meals in rsa like halls in UK where destitutes go in and eat for free. I doubt zim, malawians etc work and buy food, sorry Shoprite, picknpay, pep opened stores in zim, we have mukuru, malaicha, zimbogrocer to name a few and we buy south african made products just like other neighbouring countries, lesotho, swaziland, mozambique, botswana, have products from mzansi i it wrong for zim to buy from mzansi, lastly its 2020 we have farmers and slowly without IMF funds we coming up, so far we had a good tobacco bumper harvest from BLACK farmers, ate today thank the farmer, letme be precise thank the blak farmer hapoy now,
And the winner is..... Scenario 5: A global pandemic shuts down a third of the world's economy, plunging us into a level of uncertainty which we haven't seen since the Cuban missle crisis.
SA should have been partitioned when the British left. It should have been partitioned when Mandela was freed. Twice, we had the perfect opportunity at just land reform. But instead we keep trying to force 11 nations to live together in a ticking time bomb.
Don't need to write a book in the wests future!! See intellectual Clem Sunter also has some enthusiastic visions - guest it's the same Clem with his properous SA from the 1980s. In the meantime keep on smoking and bulshitting!!
Shirley Tigg Saudi Arabia thought the same idea. Look what happened. Another country found a way to find oil. Some countries involved in the oil markets suffered, when business went elsewhere. Business want to make a profit. However, they don't want the hassle to make it.
+bastia Mars "whites fled their countries in millions to seek asylums in the north of africa." have any sources for that? or did it come out of the book of kangz?
Great book, with a lot of insight. The power you gain from understanding possible future scenarios is knowing how to act, what ideas to stand behind, and what to stand against. We shouldn't forget that our individual actions and decisions contribute to the future of SA.
If I was a gambler I know which scenario I'd put my money on! There is a pattern in Africa ... which never changes!
lol... I too noticed a pattern without exceptions
Sadly true
Hl A If you can't cure, leave!
Guillaume Rusengo white Afrikaners need to leave SA behind and let the highly intelligent people of color do for themselves.
Joseph Hamby If you were highly intelligent you' d realise that no amount of whinging, moaning or old-skool Neo-nazi disparaging or belittling chat is going to change the situation. Things have changed, done, dusted. Adjust or Pack up!
South Africa's Cyril Ramaphosa, the new leader of the governing party ANC, said on Thursday he aims to pursue a policy of "radical economic transformation" that will speed up expropriation of land without compensation. This include Industry, Mining, Farm land and even suburbs. This is Africa western rules don't apply here.
how do you starve on easy mode?
for fucks sake people can feed themselves better in siberia
Bastia ... did you learn who invented the elevator in your African school? Your comment proves how dumb you are. The truth, for posterity's sake, is Harry Waterman, in 1850, invented the elevator (that would have been when Alexander Miles, a black man who many blacks think invented the elevator, was about 12 yrs old). It was crude by today's standards. Elisha Otis (of the famous Otis Elevator company) vastly improved upon Waterman's invention in 1853, by inventing the elevator safety brake. In 1857, Otis demonstrated HIS steam powered elevator in New York. One of Otis' elevators was installed in the world's first skyscraper which was in Chicago in 1885 (where I was born and raised and know my Chicago history).
Daily Events ... So in Africa, cutting off your nose to spite your face works so well...meanwhile, in civilized countries, we all know this behavior is for children who haven't learned the rules that make a civilized society function well. All the best to you in your ignorance. Ramaphosa doesn't give a sh*t about the outcome of his policies ... he lives a completely different life from 98% of black South Africans.
+bastia Mars what theives??? 1947 papers show we bought our land from the SOUTH AFRICAN NATIVES - Bantu are not South African Natives!!!
but We somehow STOLE your land????
this is not west africa???
you can't even compose a simple sentence - not one functioning brain cell
Like a cross between mad max without the cars and resident evil.
I'm ashamed to admit I'm South African. Such a shame as the country is full of stunning potential but also extreme in beauty and cruelty (people and landscape). Where is the compassion, kindness and love? Nothing has changed. The comments here are revolting. Racism is rampant on all sides. Everyone for himself, no thought for future generations. What about climate change and global impacts? Everyone can make a difference with every discussion and action. It says something about your values, honesty, innovation, vulnerability, collaboration. When will we learn? Put the past behind and move towards a better future together.
The IRR is one of the few remaining think tanks/organisations that think rationally & make informed statements ... rather than emotion & "gut feel".
When will this guy get to the point?
When you buy his book.
Ian Smith did nothing wrong
RSA 's participation in the founding of BRICS will one day be seen as one of our greatest achievements.
We need God.we have to pray.its no joke.South Africa has backslided from the things of God.
Yes!
Wow please re look and upload this now in 2022!!!!
A Failed state
compare what this guy says to what the current politicians are saying and you can see there is a level of understanding that is vast in contrast.
In a word.... A Jungle... Here's the problem. A man wanted to be boss, but didn't realize what being Boss was all about. He gathered a gang & went about in a destructive manner, until he became Boss. But then, he didn't have a place to stay & there was no food. But, he was in charge. Proof Positive that "being Bright & being in Charge", might be two different things. When the last white man has left South Africa, the lights will go off without any effort being expended by that man. The Black Africans will cause the lights to dim & go out on their own. Back to the stone age....
Spare us the white race sanctimonious moral rectitude they are not the gate keeper of light besides light has never being consigned to one specific people group even American as an old democracy has its own foibles they had their own civil no one said they were going to be irrelevant they had depression in 1930 they did not become a doomed people every country has cycle that is unique to their situation and its normal. The recalcitrant dutches or the boers are hell bend on making themselves the savior while under apartheid they were despicable human to ever grace the earth with their perversion of God's characters white people needs to delivered from the bondage of delusional think that they possess monopoly of good ideas and only consigned to them the DA is racist political party disguised as if they care about black South African look apartheid that is white monopoly of God ideas they must be careful not push our people into civil.
By 2021 drought, famine, pestilence grips the land, and by the year 2030, SA people will be as sparse as few surviving drought resistant trees. A pack of hungry hyenas sleeps on Malema's dusty bed while pride of lions roam the empty halls of the SA parliament.
Fidez Ustradiz I doubt this. CHINA is about to step in
Lolz it wasn't, it was covid >
Anarchy to the likes the world has never seen.
I grew up in a poor family of 8 children and i hated my parents and anyone eles who had it better life then me and i blame everyone and everthing for being poor
And i left home and school at 15years old
And became a very angry young man who got into trouble with law and join a gang.
Till one day i realise the only person who can change my life and make it better and only person who should be held accountable and responsible for it is my self.
We all have the power to change this fucked up world we live in.
Its not going to happen over night or weeks or even years to make it happen but it can happen if we want it to.
And the 1st thing is on how we bring up our children and what we teach and show them in our own homes by our actions and behavior and respect we as parents show to wards other people from different race or a persn skin colour or a person religious beliefs or none religious beliefs or gender to them.
2nd state and local governments are held accountable and responsible for the laws in thier country .
That all people are treated equal and intiled to injusticed or discrimination solely base on a person race skin colour or religion beliefs or gender or being poor should be intiled to the same legal representation in a cout of law as the person who has committed it and all people should be held accountable for their own actions and behavior to wards other people if proven in a cout of law no matter of race or the colour of their skin or religious beliefs or rich or poor.
And everyperson should be payed a decent wag for a decent days work.
And everyperson should have access to proper education no matter of race or the colour of their skin or religious beliefs or gender or being rich or poor.
And any person who has comminted any crime againts a person must be held accountable and punish for it no matter who they are under a court of law.
Because no one can help what colour there skin is or what race they are or gender they where born with.
But we do have the power on how we treat or behave to other human beings unless we let other people take controll our way of thinking by puting hatered and blaming someone or something for all our trouble in our lives .
And thier has been people doing that since the beginning of time in every country , race , religious beliefs.
and who always suffers not the very weathy or the elilt who have the power .
Just the common people and poor and uneducated do the fighting and die in all thier wars and get used to hurt or even murder innocent people for them to gain new lands and wealth or to get into power its the 1% of the worlds population who wants this bullshit to never change.
Stephen Johnson. You are right.
These bottom-up scenarios should be filtered against outside influences. What happens to SA if the world is drawn into a global conflict? What if SA happens to have a monopoly on some emerging essential raw material which dramatically increases the country's GDP? What if there is a conflict somewhere north of SA which results in a refugee crisis etc.
1st sover comment. Well said sir
By 2030, Boers will be back on top, according to van Rensburg prophecies. Go Boers!
Josip Rakonca loooool pathetic
LOL! You'll be begging the Boers to come back, just like Zimboonwe!
Josip Rakonca Seiner!
Go back to holland
In holland? or Australia? it is ur obnoxious ways that is getting u get kicked out!
This guy is living in a dream world ,there is only one way SA will go and that is down down down to meet Zimbabwe. All the floppies will be eating each other by 2030.
Most of SA population hail from Zimbabwe... Is it any wonder why they are going the same direction?
So what scenario do you think it will be? So far it looks overwhelmingly like number 2 to me. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I agree, but #4 is strongly in the running.
Five years later and the enclave society is becoming fact. The state has lost power and importantly, lost credibility.
What will SA look like in 2030? That is a no brainer and can be summed up in one word ZIMBABWE except with more violence.
But as youth of this country what can we do, where can we start? because we simply feel left out and silenced on the development of our economy.
It will be the fourth scenario.
There is things that people want but I don't get it people come to God Was a request for their selfish ambition whether you white or black and God will not answer you he will answer those who is called by his name who lives in the spirit it is there responsibility to call on to God to heal the land and also to bring the ungodly to repentance
This is a very informative analysis.
Wish I had confidence in our future..sadly I have none.
Well, it sounds like this guy has just about touched every single scenario that can happen in South Africa, so how can he be wrong. Or is this a way to write a novel in such a way that you will satisfy all your readers irrespective of how the book concludes, because it will end the way they want it to end. Genius! Economists is a bit like a Witch doctor, through the bones and tell your story, but make the wording of the story so you sound much more like a Philosopher than a Glorified Book keeper. His guess is slightly better than anybody else's guess especially if you are around the braai with a Castle in the hand, but I am sure he drink too!
Wake up we live in a spiritual world surrounded by Spirits there is the holy spirit and then there's always so the Fallen Angels if my people who is called by my name will humble themselves and pray I will heal their land and drive back the enemy. Who is the people that is called by my name 10% of all whites in South Africa knows Jesus another 10% of blacks knows Jesus the rest follow other gods they don't even know that because they do not know the one who is truth therefore if those 10% of all people will humble themselves and pray God will heal the land and push back the enemy
Well... Remember that movie with Charlton heston.....he went forward in time.
Regroup and stick together. Educate your sons snd daughters. Teach them about European history and culture. Survive at all cost.
The issue may also be that the majority of South Africans probably don't understand much of what is being said here. Sadly 😔
The problem with this scenario planning narrative is the assumption or notion that the resolution of problems associated with apartheid, poverty and inequality are obvious and self evident. My view is (based on what happens in other countries), the country will evolve and survive side-by-side all its challenges. With the emergence of the younger generations and the passing of the older generations, the nature of the challenges will also mutate and people will come to accept the situation that emerge (my guess is much higher levels of poverty and equality) as pert of a normal society - unfortunately.
South Africa's Economic Growth will start to falter in 2019 with the constitutional passing of the Land Reparations Without Compensation which is another word for Governmental Eminent Domain. With the present farmers on the land being kicked out by the native South African's the first economy to crash will be the agricultural sector. in 2020 with the emigration of 8.5 to 9% being threatened by genocide, the whole SA economy will begin a massive fall begining by at least a -10% drop and much worse from 2021 and beyond. This is due to the policies being set by the EFF and the ANC for this economic and political catastrophe. South Africa's destiny is to be a ramshackled mess for the next 1000 years onward from 2020.
Hope the Orks are defeated eventually otherwise there is no hope for middle earth
Not a constructive comment
When ther wil be nuthing
If folks haven't connect the dots by now there is no hope for us.
You don't have to wait for 2030,Anc and SACP have allready destroyed SA!Things will change for the worst from now on,only pumpkins believe in Ramaphosa's magic stick!!😂😂😁😁😂😃😃
I know which scenario I believe will happen...thats why I am GTFO !
Please leave 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I dread to think
The Cape will have declared independence by then. SA will be two countries, one will be Zimbabwe 2.0 and the other one will contain most of the whites left and will be well on the road to recovery.
I am sorry if anyone finds this offensive but I prefer facts over political correctness.
There ll be no 1 in Western Corona would have dealt with them
@@tloutlou2655 Thanks for the racist comment. Have a nice day.
@@harveysmith100 why are you offended, u just said zim 2 no one said racist, you being one sided like a leopard, well IMF just gave RSA 70 billion and the country u laughing at zimbabwe paid off IMF debt what do u have to say baaas
@@nqobilekhumalo2158 The IMF didn't give RSA 70 billion. They lent it.
I was offended because Tlou Tlou assumed the Corona virus would wipe out all the Westerners.
@@nqobilekhumalo2158 🤣🤣 You're dreaming....
Ok, so Frans Cronje starts his thesis statement by saying: "The REAL crisis is that the standard of living overall has been improved and created a certain expectation to be met by the ruling party, the slump in economy has made that target hard to be met". Well then why isnt the reasons for why the economy tanked in teh first place the first order of discussion and real problem?
This Dr . Frans Cronje talks in circles and difficult to understand what his message really is. He gives too many possibilities whilst naming his book " what will happen in 2030" . Any fool that buys this book can use his/her own logic with his/her own possibilities..
No one needs to buy a book to know what is going on in S A.
The pandemic certainly put a unforeseen spanner in the works.
Zimbabwe currency went down but guess what there was no mass death due to starvation or famine.
that's what you think, or else it wasn't reported
Nicky Apenahier. Because many blacks ran to S Africa to eat.
@@juliusmaehlich3138 tell me is there free food or meals in rsa like halls in UK where destitutes go in and eat for free. I doubt zim, malawians etc work and buy food, sorry Shoprite, picknpay, pep opened stores in zim, we have mukuru, malaicha, zimbogrocer to name a few and we buy south african made products just like other neighbouring countries, lesotho, swaziland, mozambique, botswana, have products from mzansi i it wrong for zim to buy from mzansi, lastly its 2020 we have farmers and slowly without IMF funds we coming up, so far we had a good tobacco bumper harvest from BLACK farmers, ate today thank the farmer, letme be precise thank the blak farmer hapoy now,
Come and collect the fat ones in SA and take them back to Zim
[♡] Aren't you that guy who's been a lifetime member of the ANC ????
theres a huge difference between forecast and prediction
REVELATION 2:9
And the winner is..... Scenario 5: A global pandemic shuts down a third of the world's economy, plunging us into a level of uncertainty which we haven't seen since the Cuban missle crisis.
nou wat se jy nou eintlik ? 2030 - gat nog lekker braai en suip en rugby kyk
netdirect cpt. Jy het my lekker laat lag. Fantastiese humor.
It's already heading to fullblown failed state status in July '21!
😀😀
Better hungry in your own land than foreigner on your own land.
Interesting ,,,,, Looks like they are doing well,,,,
It means more children of Fallen angels will be poor.
Neanderthals become Prophets,
Dont need to be a prophet to see where SA is going ya golly wog.
SA will be the next Liberia.
SA should have been partitioned when the British left. It should have been partitioned when Mandela was freed. Twice, we had the perfect opportunity at just land reform. But instead we keep trying to force 11 nations to live together in a ticking time bomb.
#judgementday is coming for s. africa
:)
You wil see nathing
It will be a greater shithole than it is now.
Don't need to write a book in the wests future!! See intellectual Clem Sunter also has some enthusiastic visions - guest it's the same Clem with his properous SA from the 1980s. In the meantime keep on smoking and bulshitting!!
China needs lebensraum,if I was Chinese SA would be my first choice then Australia...
2030?😆😆😆😆
No mention of the Chinese, this guy knows nothing.
opgesteel ..afgebrand en opgefok
Failed state? Africa is Europe's country.
I am sorry , but for me this video was useless.
In a nutshell , you say , in the future SA could either look good , or look bad.
Cry babies
Why worry about the
Africans..it looks
Like you people can't
Do without them..
Are their..resources
Shirley Tigg Saudi Arabia thought the same idea. Look what happened. Another country found a way to find oil. Some countries involved in the oil markets suffered, when business went elsewhere. Business want to make a profit. However, they don't want the hassle to make it.
Watch Will Smith's movie, I am Legend.
That's how S.Africa will look like.
SA is best in Africa
Is they any other Country Growing in Africa ?
+bastia Mars
"whites fled their countries in millions to seek asylums in the north of africa."
have any sources for that?
or did it come out of the book of kangz?
That's not saying much.
But we have stopped growing... we're stagnant soon the rest of Africa will pass us.
Leago Mnguni racist much?