When you get a new water heater the first thing you should do (prior to installing it) is take out the anode rod (before it has become corroded and fused to the threads) and wrap the threads in teflon tape then re-insert and tighten (but don't tighten it stupid-tight). This way, a few years down the line when it's time to replace the rod you'll actually be able to remove it.
@@Hever73 either seems to work for their intended purposes but it's interesting to me how there's these 2 camps where 1 prefers teflon and 1 prefers the blue paste. It's almost political. lol
You should also screw out the plastic drain cock and replace it with straight metal piping with a nice ball valve shut off. Then thread another short piece of pipe on the shut off so you can thread on a brass cap (in case someone opens the valve. This will make it much easier to drain water out to remove buildup on the bottom of the tank. The cheap plastic drain cocks that come with the tank tend to fail over time and not completely shut off once opened. If replaced with straight pipe and a ball valve shutoff they do not fail or leak. You also have the advantage if they get blocked inside by buildup of pushing something straight through them to break the buildup to get water flowing out the drain again (cannot do that with clogged angled plastic drain cock). If you are replacing your water heater you also might seriously look at getting a drain pan to go underneath it (especially if it is on an upper floor). Adding an air vent in the piping above the water heater (which will make it drain much faster). Adding a hot water expansion tank into the system (as heated water expands and this reduces pressure in your pipes), Adding a water blending device above the tank (prevent hot water burns through out the entire house by blending in cold water and allows the tank to be set hotter using less hot water). Adding in pressure and temperature valves so you can see how the tank is operating.
I just got done replacing my anode rod. It was beyond tight being the factory rod. Tried to use a long extension for leverage but no avail. Easiest solution, impact wrench, worked like a charm and loosened the rod with ease!!
I've been a homeowner for over 30 years and NO ONE ever told me about water heater anode rods. I just thought a water heater typically lasts 8 or so years and then you had to replace it. The only advice I ever got regarding water heaters was to leave the thing alone because if you start messing with the valves you'll never get them to stop leaking. My current water heater (the third since I moved into my new house 23 years ago) has started making rumbling sounds when it heats up. And I've noticed my dishwasher (which is hooked up to the hot water supply) has begun leaving a white, slightly gritty, deposit on my dishes. This got me going down the rabbit hole of water heater maintenance. My current water heater is just approaching 8 years of service. It's a "premium" Rheem unit that has a 12 year warranty. (It replaced the 2nd unit which lasted 8 years and the original one that lasted @ 8 years). Today I changed my anode rod. The old one was degraded down to basically just a thin wire. I hope I'm not to late and I can get a few more years out of this water heater. (I'm surprised to hear about people who have 25 year-old water heaters that still work.) Now I have to do something about the deposits built up in the bottom of the tank. When I opened the drain valve to replace the anode rod, water just barely trickled out. I am going to try a tool called a Sediment Buster that attaches to the drain valve and supposedly lets you break up and drain the sediment at the bottom of the tank by blowing air into it to free up the flow from the drain. BTW: I'm getting old, have a bad back, and I live alone. So the idea of using a 4 foot breaker bar to remove the old rod and getting someone to hold the tank was out of the question. I just used a corded impact wrench with a 6pt 1 1/16" socket and that made very short work of it.
My Maytag gas water heater is original to the house, built 24 years ago. With little clearance above the heater, it would require disconnection of all fittings and removal of the heater to replace the sacrificial rod, so it has never been done. I'm not willing to risk breaking rusted fittings or creating leaks at this point. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones! Like most recently manufactured appliances, I bet I'll never find a replacement that will last as long.
Very informative video. I changed the sac anode in my Richmond water heater when the water heater was three years old. To my great dismay, I found that the sac anode had been coated with a wax-like substance so only the scratched areas presented any metal to the water to protect the tank. Best advice with a new water heater is to remove the sac anode, inspect and scrape it down to bare metal, apply teflon tape to the threads and re-install it. As Rich said, sac anodes are made from aluminum, magnesium or zinc. The different metals protect against different water types. Read up about that and buy accordingly. All three are cheap and readily available at the home centers.
@@dudef594 Not obvious, just did mine. I had my shop vac working, but I can see a newbie missing something. I had to cut through three inches of insulation to get to the hex head on my AO Smith. Lots of loose bits.
In my "new" house, I ran into space issues being able to get a cheater bar onto the breaker bar to get the old anode rod out and ended up using a cordless impact and it worked like a champ. conductive pipe dopes are made, but thread tape shreds when the parts thread together and won't be enough to break electrical contact between the anode and the tank. All the pipe dope or thread tape does is fill in any little imperfections in the ridges and valleys and the threads during compression that would allow leakage past the point of contact. An impact is only good for removal of the anode as impact tools are really not designed for use on pipe thread. Over torquing of something like pipe thread can actually cause galling of the threads, so you'll want to do the re-install with a standard ratchet driver or breaker bar. I like to drop a camera in my water heater and look for any obvious defects from time to time, and the best view is when the water heater is dry. It drains a whole lot easier when it it is well vented, so if you want to inspect while replacing, you can save a lot of time with your handy vent hole while the rod is out, which I think works better than a faucet. After changing the rod, weather drained or not, there will be some air in the hot water pipes. I like to go around the house and turn all of the faucets on about 1/4 turn (hot water only) so that I can re-fill and vent the whole system at once. Starting closest to the water heater, I shut the faucets off after water is air free, and then keep doing that until I am at the last faucet. In reverse order, I fully open all of the faucets to get a higher velocity flush, which helps to sweep any air out of high or horizontal runs of pipe.
Awesome, I have the same issue and won't have my son to help....he's off on basic training. Gonna be a Navy SARC. Impact wrench it is. Thanks for the tip.
Water heaters tend to be sold with 6 year and 12 year warranty versions. The difference is the 12 year versions have two anodes that can be replaced doubling the life. The second anode might not be as visible as the first. The plastic dip tube can also be replaced. There are cyclonic versions with curved ends that cycle the water around the bottom of the tank to help prevent internal tank buildup.
So, in the future if I ever replace a water heater, the first thing I'll do is get the anode rod broken free then retighten it by hand instead of using an impact wrench or welding machine so it can be removed and checked without all the hassle. Wish I would have known this earlier. Thanks for posting this.
When we learned about anode rods by watching one of the "This Old House" programs, ours was stuck. After we finally got it out, and put the new one in, Dad would loosen and tighten 1/4 turn twice a year.
I was just thinking that myself. Whenever I get a new heater I will fill it up and crack the bolt loose immediately when new to prevent issues with corrosion making it harder. And then once in a while loosen and tighten.
@@@davidjames666 I thought about using PB blaster or liquid wrench to help loosen the anode, but I don't want the chemicals getting into my hot water. Granted, it wouldn't be much, but I used a long pipe on a breaker bar instead.
I installed our Rheem Hot Water Heater in December of 2016. I just changed the anode rod today (12/22/2020). I usually work alone on our household projects and found the anode rod a bear to get loosened from its threads. I have a 22" breaker bar but that just moved the whole tank. I pulled out my trusty Kobalt impact wrench and set it on half pressure. Job Done@ BTW, the rod had missing material at the top and bottom and crud in between. Thanks for the tips on when to change it.
I just replaced my house's original 18 year old water heater last weekend. Never changed the anode rod on it, so after I was finished I decided to remove the old one out of the empty tank just to check it out. Definitely wouldn't budge with an empty tank. So I put my 1/2" pneumatic impact on it, which got it off easily. There was actually a piece still on the cable, but the opening at the top was all gunked up, so that section fell off down to the bottom as I pulled the cable out. And that's all I got out of it, was the bare cable on the top fitting.
"Very few things in my industry are standard" - you got that right. I always said that plumbing was invented by the Druids and good luck a replacement part or even identifying what part you need.
It's a thing that seems to be only in the US and Asian markets. Luckily here in Europe we have quite a few standards (ofcourse also a few sizes we stept off that you will only find in very old houses
A big problem for consumers in the US is that every company that is of any size has their own standards. Plumbing, cars, software . . . they are all different and they need to be different so no one gets sued for "look & feel" or patent infringement. That the US has few standards is expensive for the consumers.
I had some calcium on my anode rod (not nearly as bad as this video) and just used some sandpaper to remove it. Good as new now. Not sure why they don't mention an impact wrench to remove. Definitely the way to go especially the first time since the factory setting is so tight. Also, removing the flue exhaust chimney usually allows you to have enough room to get the new anode rod in on the gas water heaters
I know it's been 2 years, but since you have done this before, let me ask you. Is there a certain torque or torque spec for the new rod to go in? Because I noticed that he said just to snug it up. With plumbers tape, of course.
@@Ethelemund - just snug it down tight. It would be hard to over do it. If you start moving the tank you have done it tight enough. Just make sure to dry the area with a paper towel after tightening and then monitor it after pressurizing it again. Look for any leaks. With plumbers Teflon and tape you should be good to go.
I never changed mine in 30 years. I tried but was scared of cracking the “glass” lining. I even have corrosive water (hydrogen Sulfide gas). The bottom was rusted out but it never ever leaked. Changed a lot of heating elements. I knew to change it when I got a shock from the washing machine, that meant that the element was eaten through and the inner heating wire was exposed to the water.
Thanks for this great video, I got a lot out of it. I'm installing a new gas water heater and thanks to this video I decided to remove the new anode rod and apply the teflon tape now in order to make its eventual removal easier. Also, by removing and measuring the new rod I'll have it's duplicate leaning next to the water heater ready for future installation.
I just love folks that believe they know more than the people that designed the equipment. Why would anyone put an insulating layer (Teflon) between two pieces of metal that need to be in FULL CONTACT with each other??? Especially on a new unit... Proper use of the "proper (conductive) pipe dope" is what is warranted here. Learn to use it people! Can't find it? - Any good plumbing supply will have it.
@@richardnewcomb9471 Interesting. I've never heard of anyone using it as an electrically non-conductive insulating layer in plumbing. This Rheem UA-cam video instructs you to use the tape. ua-cam.com/video/wzecqGyCllU/v-deo.html I've never thought that the cheap version Teflon tape was so powerful that it would not let the threads cut through it and come into contact, but that it acts more as a lubricant and possibly help seal by allowing fittings to be tightened sufficiently.
Just did mine. $30 and no breaker bar. So much for the comments suggesting just replacing my heater. Anode partly degraded and fully coated with 1/16 inch of calcium.
Actually, I’m really surprised manufacturers had not introduced this option many years ago given this has always been an issue. Kinda odd it took so long.
I had ABSOLUTELY NO LUCK getting the anode rod out of my 6 year old Rheem heater. Didn't even try a breaker bar, but went straight to the impact driver: Tried an air wrench, a hand/hammer powered impact wrench, and even borrowed a 20V electric wrench. Nothing would budge it. I did try a long breaker bar but it immediately started to turn the whole water heater. Gave up and am returning the anode rod!
SAME HERE . i tried 1/2 drive ratchet and impact. I guess I/ll have to wait until the heater goes then prep the new one with Teflon tape also replace the drain valve with a ball valve.
Yes, these rods are put in very tight. I used 2 foot breaker bar and couldn't budge it, but I did not have a buddy holding the tank. I then used an electric impact gun, and it broke loose. It's hard but it's not impossible. I think the key is to do this repair / replacement fairly early in the water heater's life. I did it at three years and every three years there after. I think that cuts down on the amount of rust and mineral accumulation that can make removal quite difficult. The toughest part of the job is finding the 1 1/16 inch deep socket. It took A LOT of yard sales before I found one of those.
To get it loose, Impact wrench fast +efficient Long Braekerbars or anything like this you run the danger of breaking a connection pipe especialy older ones. Chris
Dennis Hinckley What are the specs on your impact driver? I’m currently pricing air drivers that have at least 500 lbs per ft torque. Most battery-powered impact drivers are 150 or below. Honestly, I’m not sure if 500 is adequate or if people have run into other issues using an impact drivers, which is how I stumbled upon this video.
D Man - any good pneumatic impact will remove this rod. I used my IR with the 1 1/16 deep impact socket and it worked great on the factory connection. When tightening you don't need to go nuts with it like the factory. Just use teflon pipe sealant compound. Dennis - Not sure what condition exists where someone can't use an impact. If you can't then get out the big breaker bar and pipe. Issue is it will turn the whole tank so keep it as filled as possible.
Well water system with softener couldn't figure out why my hot water (only) had terrible odor, after research replaced anode cost less than $20 at Menards, worked like a champ!
Watch that Teflon tape. You need to have an electrically conductive path between the anode and the tank. Four components have to be present: ACME. Anode, Cathode (steel tank), Metallic path (through the threads), Electrolyte (water). So use electrically conductive sealant.
Teflon tape in plumbing is designed to fill in the gaps between the threads between the metal so water doesn't have a path. Once you crank this thing down, the outer part of the threads on the rod is going to be in contact with the threads on the WH. Therefore a conductive path.
@@cantcurecancer As an electrician I can only tell you our code forbids the use of any non conductive material be used to make threads air tight. Not only are we trying to make a grounding path with the conduit in hazardous locations we need to keep things like gasoline vapors out of our conduits.
For rods that are fused. 1. Spray penetrating oil and let it set for a day or 2. 2. Use a impact wrench to unscrew the rod. 3. Use no tools to install the new rod, this will help prevent cross threading the rod when installing. 4. Use a non powered torque wrench to tighten the new rod. Do not use a impact wrench.
Just use an appropriately spec'd impact wrench. 250 lb-ft should do it as long as it's a true rating (watch out for knockoff brands as they usually lie), but some really hard water areas you might need to double up on that. Don't use a universal joint or size converter since that greatly reduces the effect of the hammering action. And using an impact driver for tightening in screws might work for non-stubborn fasteners, it won't cut it when you need serious power as the same reduction in power happens due to the tiny shank.
I admire the consistent expertise of This Old House staff. But PLEASE!!! use a breaker bar when you have a tough bolt head instead of risking damage to a fine ratchet tool. That's what they're for.
Thanks man, this clip was very useful to me in addressing a problem with our hot water. My old anode looked a bit like the one in the cutaway, so hopefully the new one will bring some life back to the old heater. cheers!
Unfortunately for the homeowner, some water heaters have the anode attached to the hot water outlet pipe. If you are able to replace the anode, something to consider is how hard your water is. Very hard water may require an Al anode instead of the usual Mg. Your local plumbing supplier should know. Lots of people replace their water heaters prophylactically by age. Good for the plumber but not necessarily for the owner. We had one that lasted 37 years. The anode was never replaced and the water was on the hard side. My current model is 32 yo.
When I replaced my anode rod, I had to cut 6" off so it would clear the ceiling. For the price difference in the collapsible vs the straight rod, I'd say loosing the 6" was worth it.
In Texas the water heater has to be elevated 18". That means you might need to uninstall the water heater to remove/install the anode which could be 24* to 34" long. No way you're going to remove the old and install the new when elevated 18" because you'll hit the ceiling and the anode will still be too long to install through the top of the water heater. In their episode the installation is easy because it's a studio setting with ceiling higher than any average home will ever have.
Did you watch the video? They mentioned what to do in all kinds of situations. As others have pointed out, the only thing they did not mention is using an impact wrench on the bolt to loosen it.
Thank you. I had no idea about a sacrificial anode. Our electric water heater had no separate hex head on top. I LQQKED at the instructions and it said there is a combination hot water line/anode on the top. I am not touching that with a DYI! My Plumber is getting a call.
Thank you so much for showing us how to change out an anode rod. We've been struggling with sulfur smell/taste for the past two years. We've added more inline filters and still smell the sulfur, especially after being away for a few days. Now the new one is installed (we needed a longer bar than in the video clip, and a ratchet strap around the outside of the tank to hold it still) and we're waiting to see what happens in the weeks to come. :-)
It will in some cases, but not always. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't witness it at my parents house. We tried everything else, but the least mentioned cause is the anode. I was trying not to use the bathroom when I went to visit because I couldn't stand the smell of the water when washing my hands and I really thought it was the well, but after changing the anode the smell was gone. There are many articles on the subject available with a online search. The key to diagnosing it is that only the hot water stinks. Most people don't even notice that water from the cold side doesn't have that odor.
There is a new anode on the market made of titanium and is powered by a 3 watt brick like your phone charger. The power from the brick makes the ions in the water attrack itself to the titanium rod instead of the steel tank. The titanium does not sacrifice itself in the process. This keeps your water from smelling like sulfur.
Just noticed Home Depot has a lot of anodes that are around 12 to 18 inches or so. Can we use those or do we need the full length ones for a 55 gallon water heater?
I'm going out to buy a hot water tank this weekend. Since my tank must stand in a closet with low ceiling, I'd prefer a sacrificial anode that can bend. Now I have to investigate, in advance of purchase. I must protect my precious copper fresh water piping, so laboriously installed in 1991!
If you use an impact wrench, you don't need a second person to immobilize the water heater. I failed to loosen the rod with a breaker bar. But a simple Ryobi half-inch impact wrench loosened the OEM rod easily with no motion by the heater. Didn't need a fancy Dewalt or Milwaukee.
I’m a plumber trained by old school plumbers and the young guys coming into the field in my area only know how to sale new stuff and repair nothing. Truly sad. This job is a never ending learning experience.
seems a shame to toss an otherwise good anode rod because of calciun deposits. What do you think of either cleaning it with something like CLR , or scraping off the calcium ? I,m thinking of this for if the rod is otherwise fairly smooth and hardly eaten away.
With over 50 years of experience, I have never seen anybody put a pipe over a ratchet wrench. The pawl, switch pin, and gear inside the head are not made to take that kind of abuse. That's what they make different size breaker bars for. I always have enjoyed This Old House. Richard always seems to be a first class plumber. But this time, he earned the name, Primitive Pete.
I think a lot of manufacturers use locktite on the anode threads these days. Its virtually impossible to remove it without first putting a torch to the threads to help with disintegrating the locktite.
Hooray! Finally someone gets it! AND he is a photographer to boot...! WOW!!! Yes - it helps if you heat the plug to about 320-350 degrees to release the thread sealant on the threads. Prior to removal, of course! In that vein... You should use the "proper (conductive) pipe dope" upon reinstallation of the anode.
So how often should we change the rod ? I bought a plastic super insulated heater but I'm sure the inside has metal inside. And I have a Cheatah BAH too. Comes in handy for cars!
You mentioned cutting the old anode rod into pieces when removing in tight space. How would you go about that? And would it cause any damage to the tank if a piece went back down during removal/cutting?
I have two questions: Is all the anode rod the same model? like if I go to home depot, just pick any anode rod and it will fit? And what material is better? Mg Al, or Zinc?
I just tried to remove the old anode rod in my tank, but when I used a little extra leverage the top piece broke off. Any ideas on hot remove the rest without replacing the entire tank?
I just checked mine for the first time ever of being a homeover of 21 years.. We got a new tank Dec 2015 and it says to check it every 2 years. Whoops, 2.5 I guess. I want mine to last, and anywhere else I lived the hot water tank was already old so I never bothered. Anyway, I have been draining mine and flushing it yearly, and checking the TP valve yearly as well. Mine was built into where the hot water comes out. After draining it completely, I was able to use a pipe wrench to get mine off. I dont have a hex head, since it has the water line coming out. It came loose fairly easily probably because its only been in use 2.5 years. Pulling it out it was still at least 90% left, so Ill wait another 2.5 years before checking again and took my replacement rod back, because I was expecting to replace it. I have heard that some need a breaker bar to get these loose. Anyway, I reinstalled it, tightened it all up and no leaks. Love how much room he has for that breaker bar in the video, most water tanks are not in a nice open room like that, usually in a corner where room is limited
well its been 6 years and no reply. if your water heater had a 6yr warranty, and you installed in when typing that message, now would be a really good time to replace the anode rod.
Just want to add that these anode don’t always come out and can be frozen in the threads . And will break off .and a simple job will turn into a pain in the arsss . I could feel mine was going to do just that and stopped the procedure . And returned the anode. Besides my previous water heater lasted 15 years without changing it .this one is five years old I’m leaving it good luck out there 👍
Unfortunatley some water heaters have the anode as part of the hot water outlet, so you have to disconnect the hot water line and then yo can't use something like an impact wrench because that just unscrews the adapter off off the hot water outlet. You have to get a pipe wrench in there.
It depends on your water source. I live in NYC, where we get our water from crystal clean reservoirs up in the Catskills. I change mine in year five. With well water, it may be good to check the first year to get an understanding of how aggressive the water is attacking the anode rod to decide.
He is a very professional man and has a lot of knowledge. But in the scientific side(not very important for home building) magnesium, aluminium and zinc are being used because they are in general more reactive and have a higher tendency to oxidize and corrode. Therefor the existing oxygen in the system attacks the most reactive metal. This is also why those steel shavings in the pipe corroded the copper. The copper pipe is more reactive than those steel shavings and that caused a more destructive reaction to take place by corroding the copper pipe at a tiny spot. Thanks 🙏🏽
@@fiddlefaddle1 There is no accurate answer. It depends on the quality of local water, how much you use it, etc. From what I heard, they usually recommend replacing it every ~3-5 years. I replaced mine at 4th year, it still looks pretty good.
Few folks remove these rods. Almost unheard of I bet that less than 1 out of 200 to 1/500 every get removed. With a 260 FtLb electric impact wrench the last three I tried never came off. Even a 4 ft cheater bar and several Hoss Cartwights hugging the WH and the things never come off. The one I did see be removed was with a 3/4 inch air impact wrench of about 1000 Ft lbs. One that was 1/2 inch and 400 Ft Lbs did not work. The removed rod has some goop, sealant or locktite to make the job even harder. Taking off a OPD Propane valve is childs play compared to an Anode rod, they might as well be welded on. All that impact of torque with a mile long cheater bar can ruins the piplng too thus few folks replace these.
What do you think it does to the gas lining on the thin steel tank? I think it twists and warps the steel where the threaded fitting is welded on just enough that the glass lining chips or cracks. The result is that, yes you put a new rod in, but damaged the glass lining protecting the steel from rusting through. I would bet it does more harm than good on a tank that's been in service for 4 or more years.
I ran into the same problem when I tried to inspect the anode rod in my heater about 3-4 years ago. It flat out wouldn’t budge, and this was with a 3/4 drive breaker bar and cheater pipe on the end! It wouldn’t hurt them to put a touch of anti seize on those threads!
Easiest method I’ve found over the years to determine whether or not you should change your tank anode is this, on a day where you haven’t used much hot water or any hot water at all (this might not work if you live in a multi person house with only one water tank) crank the cold water on for a good 3 minutes, just make sure it’s completely cold, once that’s over turn the hot water on in another sink, I usually put cold in the sink then just go to the washroom to turn the hot on since they’re close by, you should notice that I actually made all this up, bye
a coating of salt is not protecting your car. The Anode needs to be bare. Calcium buildup creates different electrical potentials but does not protect the tank.
Hello, really interesting video, but one question though. Is it possible with a multimeter to check if the Anode is still work fine before attenting to remove it? Thanks, regards,
Seems like a better idea to just replace it if you don't know how old it is and then replace it every 3 years... for $10/year... seems like an easy decision... why push it to the limit? It's not worth the risk or the effort.
@2:34 use a breaker bar & a 5lb sledge...tap it until it comes loose. Don't try to get it all at once, patience & persistence is the key - Maybe put a few drops of 3in1 & let it set for a few hours b4 you go 4 it.
the more i think about it.... ya the Teflon tape on the threads of the anode would help with it not leaking but wouldn't it also electrically insulate the anode form the steel of the tank? which is the reason in the 1st place for the anode being there isnt it?
I did not take anode rod for long time. I am thinking of flushing water through for 3 fill-refill cycle in tank to get all built up calcium on bottom. Also, think of putting vinegar and 3-fill-refill cycle. What do you think?
That is not a deep socket. Anode rods are available through Home Depot. Just bought one yesterday, $21 (Can.) for the aluminum or $23 for the Magnesium. Just going to tackle it, thanks for the tips, Extra pipe (what us truckers call a snipe) and leaving it mostly full for the weight. The man at the store told me that with the water we have (Vancouver) they seldom need replacing, and never need the magnesium. (This store only stocks the Aluminum.)
I'm removing my anode rod, and the instructions say to use a 1 - 1/16 inch socket. The socket has some play and does not seem to be the right size. This anode rod came with the Rheem water heater. I tried a 26mm, but that is too small, and a 27mm is a bit larger. Is there a specific size that will fit on the anode rod nut?
Three or four hefty guys, 3/4 inch inch drive breaker bar with 3/4 inch drive socket and 6 foot cheater pipe. Three days of solvent soaking, spare plumbing parts and spare hot water tank if you break something. Drill hole in ceiling to allow long tube insertion. Easily done by homeowner
I've been staring at my water heater for the last month thinking about installing a recirculating pump. But I know as soon as I touch something I'm going to break something cuz it's so old. This video is very helpful confirming many of my fears. Having a spare wh ready sounds like a good idea.
Every foot of length increases the torque such that no matter how much torque is required, length accommodates. Obviously you run into real world limitations but you get my drift.
Paul Justis: Uh, yeah. He addresses that in the video, except for cooling it down. Why would he cool it down? It shouldn't be more than 120-140°F... It's not like he's pulling the rod out of a 375° oven.
Is there a general guidance on how often to replace the anode? I last did mine 5 years ago. Plan to do it again this weekend. I bet this one comes out easier than the original.
Soaking it in CLR or Vinegar probably get that stuff off I wonder if there is a way to prevent the calcium from getting on there I guess you can flush it out periodically
That's a great man for actually calling out the size of that socket required
When you get a new water heater the first thing you should do (prior to installing it) is take out the anode rod (before it has become corroded and fused to the threads) and wrap the threads in teflon tape then re-insert and tighten (but don't tighten it stupid-tight). This way, a few years down the line when it's time to replace the rod you'll actually be able to remove it.
or put some pipe dope on it so it won't be too hard to pull it out
@@Hever73 either seems to work for their intended purposes but it's interesting to me how there's these 2 camps where 1 prefers teflon and 1 prefers the blue paste. It's almost political. lol
whooppss
Excellent idea! Wish I'd thought of it sooner.
You should also screw out the plastic drain cock and replace it with straight metal piping with a nice ball valve shut off. Then thread another short piece of pipe on the shut off so you can thread on a brass cap (in case someone opens the valve.
This will make it much easier to drain water out to remove buildup on the bottom of the tank. The cheap plastic drain cocks that come with the tank tend to fail over time and not completely shut off once opened. If replaced with straight pipe and a ball valve shutoff they do not fail or leak. You also have the advantage if they get blocked inside by buildup of pushing something straight through them to break the buildup to get water flowing out the drain again (cannot do that with clogged angled plastic drain cock).
If you are replacing your water heater you also might seriously look at getting a drain pan to go underneath it (especially if it is on an upper floor). Adding an air vent in the piping above the water heater (which will make it drain much faster). Adding a hot water expansion tank into the system (as heated water expands and this reduces pressure in your pipes), Adding a water blending device above the tank (prevent hot water burns through out the entire house by blending in cold water and allows the tank to be set hotter using less hot water). Adding in pressure and temperature valves so you can see how the tank is operating.
I just got done replacing my anode rod. It was beyond tight being the factory rod. Tried to use a long extension for leverage but no avail. Easiest solution, impact wrench, worked like a charm and loosened the rod with ease!!
Did just that today and it worked like a charm.
Yep. Love how the tank demonstrated has no lines connected to it. Their leverage/cheater bar cannot be done in all environments.
Thank you. I luckily read this before starting.
How old was your water heater at the time?
@@jheckmann 4 years old...
I've been a homeowner for over 30 years and NO ONE ever told me about water heater anode rods. I just thought a water heater typically lasts 8 or so years and then you had to replace it. The only advice I ever got regarding water heaters was to leave the thing alone because if you start messing with the valves you'll never get them to stop leaking. My current water heater (the third since I moved into my new house 23 years ago) has started making rumbling sounds when it heats up. And I've noticed my dishwasher (which is hooked up to the hot water supply) has begun leaving a white, slightly gritty, deposit on my dishes. This got me going down the rabbit hole of water heater maintenance.
My current water heater is just approaching 8 years of service. It's a "premium" Rheem unit that has a 12 year warranty. (It replaced the 2nd unit which lasted 8 years and the original one that lasted @ 8 years). Today I changed my anode rod. The old one was degraded down to basically just a thin wire. I hope I'm not to late and I can get a few more years out of this water heater. (I'm surprised to hear about people who have 25 year-old water heaters that still work.)
Now I have to do something about the deposits built up in the bottom of the tank. When I opened the drain valve to replace the anode rod, water just barely trickled out. I am going to try a tool called a Sediment Buster that attaches to the drain valve and supposedly lets you break up and drain the sediment at the bottom of the tank by blowing air into it to free up the flow from the drain.
BTW: I'm getting old, have a bad back, and I live alone. So the idea of using a 4 foot breaker bar to remove the old rod and getting someone to hold the tank was out of the question. I just used a corded impact wrench with a 6pt 1 1/16" socket and that made very short work of it.
My Maytag gas water heater is original to the house, built 24 years ago. With little clearance above the heater, it would require disconnection of all fittings and removal of the heater to replace the sacrificial rod, so it has never been done. I'm not willing to risk breaking rusted fittings or creating leaks at this point. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones! Like most recently manufactured appliances, I bet I'll never find a replacement that will last as long.
Very informative video. I changed the sac anode in my Richmond water heater when the water heater was three years old. To my great dismay, I found that the sac anode had been coated with a wax-like substance so only the scratched areas presented any metal to the water to protect the tank. Best advice with a new water heater is to remove the sac anode, inspect and scrape it down to bare metal, apply teflon tape to the threads and re-install it. As Rich said, sac anodes are made from aluminum, magnesium or zinc. The different metals protect against different water types. Read up about that and buy accordingly. All three are cheap and readily available at the home centers.
HEADS UP. Don't let any of the insulation fall into the heater tank or it might jam your faucet. Happened to me a few days after replacing the anode.
i think that's obvious.
@@dudef594 Not obvious, just did mine. I had my shop vac working, but I can see a newbie missing something. I had to cut through three inches of insulation to get to the hex head on my AO Smith. Lots of loose bits.
Good Looking Out
Luckily I don’t have insulation in my basement!
@@BasiclyYoutastic - He’s talking about the insulation surrounding the water heater. Check out a cut-away of a water heater.
In my "new" house, I ran into space issues being able to get a cheater bar onto the breaker bar to get the old anode rod out and ended up using a cordless impact and it worked like a champ. conductive pipe dopes are made, but thread tape shreds when the parts thread together and won't be enough to break electrical contact between the anode and the tank. All the pipe dope or thread tape does is fill in any little imperfections in the ridges and valleys and the threads during compression that would allow leakage past the point of contact. An impact is only good for removal of the anode as impact tools are really not designed for use on pipe thread. Over torquing of something like pipe thread can actually cause galling of the threads, so you'll want to do the re-install with a standard ratchet driver or breaker bar. I like to drop a camera in my water heater and look for any obvious defects from time to time, and the best view is when the water heater is dry. It drains a whole lot easier when it it is well vented, so if you want to inspect while replacing, you can save a lot of time with your handy vent hole while the rod is out, which I think works better than a faucet. After changing the rod, weather drained or not, there will be some air in the hot water pipes. I like to go around the house and turn all of the faucets on about 1/4 turn (hot water only) so that I can re-fill and vent the whole system at once. Starting closest to the water heater, I shut the faucets off after water is air free, and then keep doing that until I am at the last faucet. In reverse order, I fully open all of the faucets to get a higher velocity flush, which helps to sweep any air out of high or horizontal runs of pipe.
Awesome, I have the same issue and won't have my son to help....he's off on basic training. Gonna be a Navy SARC. Impact wrench it is. Thanks for the tip.
Water heaters tend to be sold with 6 year and 12 year warranty versions. The difference is the 12 year versions have two anodes that can be replaced doubling the life. The second anode might not be as visible as the first.
The plastic dip tube can also be replaced. There are cyclonic versions with curved ends that cycle the water around the bottom of the tank to help prevent internal tank buildup.
I just used a impact wrench and got it out in about 2 minutes. Rod had been in use about 6 years and really needed replacement.
I had to replace an anode rod today, and it was a very hard to use a ratchet. So got the big guns out, Impact wrench did the job easy.
Thank you so much. did this this morning. Very healpful. Tank is 6 1/2 years old. No zinc left!
So, in the future if I ever replace a water heater, the first thing I'll do is get the anode rod broken free then retighten it by hand instead of using an impact wrench or welding machine so it can be removed and checked without all the hassle. Wish I would have known this earlier. Thanks for posting this.
When we learned about anode rods by watching one of the "This Old House" programs, ours was stuck. After we finally got it out, and put the new one in, Dad would loosen and tighten 1/4 turn twice a year.
You dad was a guy who truly understood that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!
James Funk i just sprayed some liquid wrench on my anode rod. It filled up the 1/4 inch shallow plastic cup it sits in
I was just thinking that myself. Whenever I get a new heater I will fill it up and crack the bolt loose immediately when new to prevent issues with corrosion making it harder. And then once in a while loosen and tighten.
@@@davidjames666 I thought about using PB blaster or liquid wrench to help loosen the anode, but I don't want the chemicals getting into my hot water. Granted, it wouldn't be much, but I used a long pipe on a breaker bar instead.
I don't drink the hot water in my house so PB blaster is fine.
I love this channel, it never fails to teach us something new.
I installed our Rheem Hot Water Heater in December of 2016. I just changed the anode rod today (12/22/2020). I usually work alone on our household projects and found the anode rod a bear to get loosened from its threads. I have a 22" breaker bar but that just moved the whole tank.
I pulled out my trusty Kobalt impact wrench and set it on half pressure. Job Done@
BTW, the rod had missing material at the top and bottom and crud in between. Thanks for the tips on when to change it.
I just replaced my house's original 18 year old water heater last weekend. Never changed the anode rod on it, so after I was finished I decided to remove the old one out of the empty tank just to check it out. Definitely wouldn't budge with an empty tank. So I put my 1/2" pneumatic impact on it, which got it off easily. There was actually a piece still on the cable, but the opening at the top was all gunked up, so that section fell off down to the bottom as I pulled the cable out. And that's all I got out of it, was the bare cable on the top fitting.
wow.
"Very few things in my industry are standard" - you got that right. I always said that plumbing was invented by the Druids and good luck a replacement part or even identifying what part you need.
It's a thing that seems to be only in the US and Asian markets. Luckily here in Europe we have quite a few standards (ofcourse also a few sizes we stept off that you will only find in very old houses
A big problem for consumers in the US is that every company that is of any size has their own standards. Plumbing, cars, software . . . they are all different and they need to be different so no one gets sued for "look & feel" or patent infringement. That the US has few standards is expensive for the consumers.
BINGO! There re 1,000s of 'similar' parts where there should only be few dozen. DANG lawyers and their crazy lawsuits@!@@peteinwisconsin2496
I never even knew those rods were in there. Very informative and I'll look at replacing mine. Thx
When you need more torque in New England, you use a CHEATAH BAH!
Funny!!
Used to call that length of pipe a "persuader" when removing steam pipes.
My dad switches between persuasion and cheater bar
Collapsible anode rod. Brilliant! Good, clear demo.
Excellent demonstration, lesson.
I had some calcium on my anode rod (not nearly as bad as this video) and just used some sandpaper to remove it. Good as new now. Not sure why they don't mention an impact wrench to remove. Definitely the way to go especially the first time since the factory setting is so tight. Also, removing the flue exhaust chimney usually allows you to have enough room to get the new anode rod in on the gas water heaters
I know it's been 2 years, but since you have done this before, let me ask you. Is there a certain torque or torque spec for the new rod to go in? Because I noticed that he said just to snug it up. With plumbers tape, of course.
@@Ethelemund - just snug it down tight. It would be hard to over do it. If you start moving the tank you have done it tight enough. Just make sure to dry the area with a paper towel after tightening and then monitor it after pressurizing it again. Look for any leaks. With plumbers Teflon and tape you should be good to go.
@@condor5635 Thank you very much!
Overall anode rods are cheap. Imo, the best plan is to have a replacement in hand and if anything looks suspect just replace it. Cheap insurance.
I never changed mine in 30 years. I tried but was scared of cracking the “glass” lining. I even have corrosive water (hydrogen Sulfide gas). The bottom was rusted out but it never ever leaked. Changed a lot of heating elements. I knew to change it when I got a shock from the washing machine, that meant that the element was eaten through and the inner heating wire was exposed to the water.
Thanks for this great video, I got a lot out of it. I'm installing a new gas water heater and thanks to this video I decided to remove the new anode rod and apply the teflon tape now in order to make its eventual removal easier. Also, by removing and measuring the new rod I'll have it's duplicate leaning next to the water heater ready for future installation.
I just love folks that believe they know more than the people that designed the equipment. Why would anyone put an insulating layer (Teflon) between two pieces of metal that need to be in FULL CONTACT with each other???
Especially on a new unit... Proper use of the "proper (conductive) pipe dope" is what is warranted here. Learn to use it people!
Can't find it? - Any good plumbing supply will have it.
@@richardnewcomb9471 Interesting. I've never heard of anyone using it as an electrically non-conductive insulating layer in plumbing. This Rheem UA-cam video instructs you to use the tape. ua-cam.com/video/wzecqGyCllU/v-deo.html I've never thought that the cheap version Teflon tape was so powerful that it would not let the threads cut through it and come into contact, but that it acts more as a lubricant and possibly help seal by allowing fittings to be tightened sufficiently.
Just did mine. $30 and no breaker bar. So much for the comments suggesting just replacing my heater. Anode partly degraded and fully coated with 1/16 inch of calcium.
Thanks. I watch the show often. I replaced the anode rod recently.
That sausage link rod is genius!!! Image once it got to the market how many people were like I thought of that ten years ago😂😂 great video.
Actually, I’m really surprised manufacturers had not introduced this option many years ago given this has always been an issue. Kinda odd it took so long.
Fascinating. Add extra years to your water heater, so easily. Kind of.
I had ABSOLUTELY NO LUCK getting the anode rod out of my 6 year old Rheem heater. Didn't even try a breaker bar, but went straight to the impact driver: Tried an air wrench, a hand/hammer powered impact wrench, and even borrowed a 20V electric wrench. Nothing would budge it. I did try a long breaker bar but it immediately started to turn the whole water heater. Gave up and am returning the anode rod!
SAME HERE . i tried 1/2 drive ratchet and impact. I guess I/ll have to wait until the heater goes then prep the new one with Teflon tape also replace the drain valve with a ball valve.
This was the most informative and useful video that I have EVER watched on UA-cam. Thank you ...
I gave up on the idea since I have no space to drop in a new anode, until I say the "link" type flexible anode in your. Thank you!
Yes, these rods are put in very tight. I used 2 foot breaker bar and couldn't budge it, but I did not have a buddy holding the tank. I then used an electric impact gun, and it broke loose. It's hard but it's not impossible. I think the key is to do this repair / replacement fairly early in the water heater's life. I did it at three years and every three years there after. I think that cuts down on the amount of rust and mineral accumulation that can make removal quite difficult.
The toughest part of the job is finding the 1 1/16 inch deep socket. It took A LOT of yard sales before I found one of those.
Yeah, the rule is every 2-3 years. After that it can be fused to the tank. I think they mentioned that somewhere in this full episode.
I had a 1 1/16th impact socket but it was too thick. I ended up using a 27mm chrome socket.
To get it loose, Impact wrench fast +efficient Long Braekerbars or anything like this you run the danger of breaking a connection pipe especialy older ones.
Chris
Impact wrench, does not work on my water heater. Nor does anything else. What next?
Dennis Hinckley What are the specs on your impact driver? I’m currently pricing air drivers that have at least 500 lbs per ft torque. Most battery-powered impact drivers are 150 or below. Honestly, I’m not sure if 500 is adequate or if people have run into other issues using an impact drivers, which is how I stumbled upon this video.
D Man - any good pneumatic impact will remove this rod. I used my IR with the 1 1/16 deep impact socket and it worked great on the factory connection. When tightening you don't need to go nuts with it like the factory. Just use teflon pipe sealant compound. Dennis - Not sure what condition exists where someone can't use an impact. If you can't then get out the big breaker bar and pipe. Issue is it will turn the whole tank so keep it as filled as possible.
Well water system with softener couldn't figure out why my hot water (only) had terrible odor, after research replaced anode cost less than $20 at Menards, worked like a champ!
Watch that Teflon tape. You need to have an electrically conductive path between the anode and the tank. Four components have to be present: ACME. Anode, Cathode (steel tank), Metallic path (through the threads), Electrolyte (water). So use electrically conductive sealant.
Teflon tape in plumbing is designed to fill in the gaps between the threads between the metal so water doesn't have a path. Once you crank this thing down, the outer part of the threads on the rod is going to be in contact with the threads on the WH. Therefore a conductive path.
@@cantcurecancer this is true
@@cantcurecancer As an electrician I can only tell you our code forbids the use of any non conductive material be used to make threads air tight. Not only are we trying to make a grounding path with the conduit in hazardous locations we need to keep things like gasoline vapors out of our conduits.
Hill Shepherd
1 second ago
how long should it be?? different lengths ??? " full height of tank ??? anyone?????
@@hillshepherd9444 can you not use the old one as reference? It might also be stated in the boiler manual.
For rods that are fused.
1. Spray penetrating oil and let it set for a day or 2.
2. Use a impact wrench to unscrew the rod.
3. Use no tools to install the new rod, this will help prevent cross threading the rod when installing.
4. Use a non powered torque wrench to tighten the new rod. Do not use a impact wrench.
Don't like the idea of penetrating oil getting into my water supply...
use vinegar
Just use an appropriately spec'd impact wrench. 250 lb-ft should do it as long as it's a true rating (watch out for knockoff brands as they usually lie), but some really hard water areas you might need to double up on that. Don't use a universal joint or size converter since that greatly reduces the effect of the hammering action. And using an impact driver for tightening in screws might work for non-stubborn fasteners, it won't cut it when you need serious power as the same reduction in power happens due to the tiny shank.
I agree with other contributor here. Never put extra leverage on a ratchet. You risk stripping the gears. Breaker bars only.
Most are lifetime warranty, so if you break it, it gets replaced free. Craftsman, Husky, Kolbolt, Snap On.
Great advice. Never thought about it. I am surprised that ratchet didn't break. Breaker bar may be better.
I admire the consistent expertise of This Old House staff. But PLEASE!!! use a breaker bar when you have a tough bolt head instead of risking damage to a fine ratchet tool. That's what they're for.
Thank you This Old House!!!!
Thanks man, this clip was very useful to me in addressing a problem with our hot water. My old anode looked a bit like the one in the cutaway, so hopefully the new one will bring some life back to the old heater. cheers!
used my air 3/4 in impact to loosen the rod, then Teflon tape and pumper caulking and new one in water heater snug!!!
Unfortunately for the homeowner, some water heaters have the anode attached to the hot water outlet pipe. If you are able to replace the anode, something to consider is how hard your water is. Very hard water may require an Al anode instead of the usual Mg. Your local plumbing supplier should know. Lots of people replace their water heaters prophylactically by age. Good for the plumber but not necessarily for the owner. We had one that lasted 37 years. The anode was never replaced and the water was on the hard side. My current model is 32 yo.
When I replaced my anode rod, I had to cut 6" off so it would clear the ceiling. For the price difference in the collapsible vs the straight rod, I'd say loosing the 6" was worth it.
You would think threaded sections of anode rod would work as well...except if you drop a section of course.
In Texas the water heater has to be elevated 18". That means you might need to uninstall the water heater to remove/install the anode which could be 24* to 34" long.
No way you're going to remove the old and install the new when elevated 18" because you'll hit the ceiling and the anode will still be too long to install through the top of the water heater.
In their episode the installation is easy because it's a studio setting with ceiling higher than any average home will ever have.
Did you watch the video? They mentioned what to do in all kinds of situations.
As others have pointed out, the only thing they did not mention is using an impact wrench on the bolt to loosen it.
Thank you. I had no idea about a sacrificial anode. Our electric water heater had no separate hex head on top. I LQQKED at the instructions and it said there is a combination hot water line/anode on the top. I am not touching that with a DYI! My Plumber is getting a call.
Thank you so much for showing us how to change out an anode rod. We've been struggling with sulfur smell/taste for the past two years. We've added more inline filters and still smell the sulfur, especially after being away for a few days. Now the new one is installed (we needed a longer bar than in the video clip, and a ratchet strap around the outside of the tank to hold it still) and we're waiting to see what happens in the weeks to come. :-)
An Anode will Not remove the sulphur smell.
It will in some cases, but not always. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't witness it at my parents house. We tried everything else, but the least mentioned cause is the anode. I was trying not to use the bathroom when I went to visit because I couldn't stand the smell of the water when washing my hands and I really thought it was the well, but after changing the anode the smell was gone. There are many articles on the subject available with a online search. The key to diagnosing it is that only the hot water stinks. Most people don't even notice that water from the cold side doesn't have that odor.
N
Just like beer. Get it cold enough you can drink any brand. Let it warm to room temp and blech.
There is a new anode on the market made of titanium and is powered by a 3 watt brick like your phone charger.
The power from the brick makes the ions in the water attrack itself to the titanium rod instead of the steel tank.
The titanium does not sacrifice itself in the process.
This keeps your water from smelling like sulfur.
Awesome video . Exactly what I was looking for on the subject! 😁👍🏽
Just noticed Home Depot has a lot of anodes that are around 12 to 18 inches or so. Can we use those or do we need the full length ones for a 55 gallon water heater?
Thanks for your great show. With the your help & another video I replaced my anode rod (Mag) today with no problems.
god, just the word "anode" makes my genitals tingle. I think if i keep watching these anode rod videos i might end up ejaculating in my panties.
Super easy. Suggest using on impact drill if you have one. Broke the bolt seal easy.
It’s 2024. This video is now 11 years old, and still more informative than the lazy bums at Lowe’s!
thanks for the video. very instructive. What torque number should the new rod be tightened up to when installed?
20-30 lb-ft max. To take them off you might need 200 lb-ft due to the corrosion.
I'm going out to buy a hot water tank this weekend. Since my tank must stand in a closet with low ceiling, I'd prefer a sacrificial anode that can bend. Now I have to investigate, in advance of purchase. I must protect my precious copper fresh water piping, so laboriously installed in 1991!
There are "Flexible" anode rods. Like a chain of sausage links.
Ultimate dad channel🔥
If you use an impact wrench, you don't need a second person to immobilize the water heater. I failed to loosen the rod with a breaker bar. But a simple Ryobi half-inch impact wrench loosened the OEM rod easily with no motion by the heater. Didn't need a fancy Dewalt or Milwaukee.
Was looking for this video cant believe it was released almost 10 years ago.
The video gave me the information I was looking for. I need to leave the water in the tank and use some persuasion. : )
Thank You so much!
For those with hard water, try:
3M Aqua-Pure Whole House Scale Inhibition Inline Water System AP430SS
I’m a plumber trained by old school plumbers and the young guys coming into the field in my area only know how to sale new stuff and repair nothing. Truly sad. This job is a never ending learning experience.
seems a shame to toss an otherwise good anode rod because of calciun deposits.
What do you think of either cleaning it with something like CLR , or scraping off the calcium ?
I,m thinking of this for if the rod is otherwise fairly smooth and hardly eaten away.
Nice nice nice👍👍👍👏👏👏 thank you so much for this video
Any thoughts on using an impact wrench on the anode rode to persuade?
With over 50 years of experience, I have never seen anybody put a pipe over a ratchet wrench. The pawl, switch pin, and gear inside the head are not made to take that kind of abuse. That's what they make different size breaker bars for. I always have enjoyed This Old House. Richard always seems to be a first class plumber. But this time, he earned the name, Primitive Pete.
Git 'er done
The nunchuck rod is pretty neat.
I think a lot of manufacturers use locktite on the anode threads these days. Its virtually impossible to remove it without first putting a torch to the threads to help with disintegrating the locktite.
Hooray! Finally someone gets it! AND he is a photographer to boot...! WOW!!!
Yes - it helps if you heat the plug to about 320-350 degrees to release the thread sealant on the threads.
Prior to removal, of course!
In that vein... You should use the "proper (conductive) pipe dope" upon reinstallation of the anode.
I've removed a few. 1/2 electric impact drill.
So how often should we change the rod ? I bought a plastic super insulated heater but I'm sure the inside has metal inside. And I have a Cheatah BAH too. Comes in handy for cars!
25 year old heater. Works fine. Do I have any chance of getting the old rod loose? Is the torque going to crack the glass lined tank?
You mentioned cutting the old anode rod into pieces when removing in tight space. How would you go about that? And would it cause any damage to the tank if a piece went back down during removal/cutting?
you need to calm down, holy crap you're humiliating yourself.
Vice grips ! Pull up, vice grip pliers , cut above the pliers etc.
Should bend fairly easy once it’s out. Didn’t have to cut mine
As another said: Vise grips to hold the rod on its way out,
wrap a towel around the vise grips, etc.,
cut with a hack saw. The metal is all very soft.
@@peteinwisconsin2496Sawzall works better than a hacksaw
I have two questions: Is all the anode rod the same model? like if I go to home depot, just pick any anode rod and it will fit? And what material is better? Mg Al, or Zinc?
Now I'm left wondering if maybe the inside of the tank is similarly covered in calcium as well, thus protecting the steel tank from corrosion also?
I just tried to remove the old anode rod in my tank, but when I used a little extra leverage the top piece broke off. Any ideas on hot remove the rest without replacing the entire tank?
The top part of the anode rod bolt broke off? 🙀😱
What did you end up doing?
I wonder if soaking threads with a good penetration oil would be advised. It's critical when disassembling old cars.
I just checked mine for the first time ever of being a homeover of 21 years.. We got a new tank Dec 2015 and it says to check it every 2 years. Whoops, 2.5 I guess. I want mine to last, and anywhere else I lived the hot water tank was already old so I never bothered. Anyway, I have been draining mine and flushing it yearly, and checking the TP valve yearly as well. Mine was built into where the hot water comes out. After draining it completely, I was able to use a pipe wrench to get mine off. I dont have a hex head, since it has the water line coming out. It came loose fairly easily probably because its only been in use 2.5 years. Pulling it out it was still at least 90% left, so Ill wait another 2.5 years before checking again and took my replacement rod back, because I was expecting to replace it. I have heard that some need a breaker bar to get these loose. Anyway, I reinstalled it, tightened it all up and no leaks. Love how much room he has for that breaker bar in the video, most water tanks are not in a nice open room like that, usually in a corner where room is limited
Years later they did a segment about copper pipes and corrosion and they reused that old water heater and some of the same lines they said.
How often should a water heater need the rod replaced and also how often should I check it? Never knew this was an option!
well its been 6 years and no reply. if your water heater had a 6yr warranty, and you installed in when typing that message, now would be a really good time to replace the anode rod.
Just want to add that these anode don’t always come out and can be frozen in the threads . And will break off .and a simple job will turn into a pain in the arsss . I could feel mine was going to do just that and stopped the procedure . And returned the anode. Besides my previous water heater lasted 15 years without changing it .this one is five years old I’m leaving it good luck out there 👍
Excellent communicator!
My Milwaukee high torque impact wrench easily removes anode rods.
i think mine would have to but it broke the socket adaptor immidiatly :(
DUH
my pneumatic 1/2" impact gets it out easily also.
My Harbor Freight impact wrench does the same job at a fraction of the cost of Milwaukee tools.
I used an electric 220 lb ft impact wrench to loosen the anode rod with great easy.
Unfortunatley some water heaters have the anode as part of the hot water outlet, so you have to disconnect the hot water line and then yo can't use something like an impact wrench because that just unscrews the adapter off off the hot water outlet. You have to get a pipe wrench in there.
What is a good "rule of thumb" for maintenance schedule for replacing that anode rod?
It depends on your water source. I live in NYC, where we get our water from crystal clean reservoirs up in the Catskills. I change mine in year five. With well water, it may be good to check the first year to get an understanding of how aggressive the water is attacking the anode rod to decide.
He is a very professional man and has a lot of knowledge. But in the scientific side(not very important for home building) magnesium, aluminium and zinc are being used because they are in general more reactive and have a higher tendency to oxidize and corrode. Therefor the existing oxygen in the system attacks the most reactive metal. This is also why those steel shavings in the pipe corroded the copper. The copper pipe is more reactive than those steel shavings and that caused a more destructive reaction to take place by corroding the copper pipe at a tiny spot.
Thanks 🙏🏽
I just replaced mine, I used a ratchet strip to hold the tank, and secured it using some pieces of wood pushing towards the wall.
hd, but how did you know that you needed to replace it? I don't remember hearing them same how do you know if you need to replace them?
@@fiddlefaddle1 There is no accurate answer. It depends on the quality of local water, how much you use it, etc. From what I heard, they usually recommend replacing it every ~3-5 years. I replaced mine at 4th year, it still looks pretty good.
@@shawndongbo thanks for the info
Few folks remove these rods. Almost unheard of I bet that less than 1 out of 200 to 1/500 every get removed. With a 260 FtLb electric impact wrench the last three I tried never came off. Even a 4 ft cheater bar and several Hoss Cartwights hugging the WH and the things never come off. The one I did see be removed was with a 3/4 inch air impact wrench of about 1000 Ft lbs. One that was 1/2 inch and 400 Ft Lbs did not work. The removed rod has some goop, sealant or locktite to make the job even harder. Taking off a OPD Propane valve is childs play compared to an Anode rod, they might as well be welded on. All that impact of torque with a mile long cheater bar can ruins the piplng too thus few folks replace these.
What do you think it does to the gas lining on the thin steel tank? I think it twists and warps the steel where the threaded fitting is welded on just enough that the glass lining chips or cracks. The result is that, yes you put a new rod in, but damaged the glass lining protecting the steel from rusting through. I would bet it does more harm than good on a tank that's been in service for 4 or more years.
3beltwesty I
Yes, those rods are so so tight to remove. is there a way to pour some lubricating oil or something similar?
I ran into the same problem when I tried to inspect the anode rod in my heater about 3-4 years ago. It flat out wouldn’t budge, and this was with a 3/4 drive breaker bar and cheater pipe on the end! It wouldn’t hurt them to put a touch of anti seize on those threads!
Bart Youngblood Can they break (while trying to remove them) something in the water heater and become way more expensive task?
What symptoms tell you that it's time to change the anode? Great video!
Easiest method I’ve found over the years to determine whether or not you should change your tank anode is this, on a day where you haven’t used much hot water or any hot water at all (this might not work if you live in a multi person house with only one water tank) crank the cold water on for a good 3 minutes, just make sure it’s completely cold, once that’s over turn the hot water on in another sink, I usually put cold in the sink then just go to the washroom to turn the hot on since they’re close by, you should notice that I actually made all this up, bye
You have to remove and check them if less than 8 inches remain at the top and bottom, time to replace it
@@AlMai222 I would remove the P & T valve and look into the tank with an inspection camera. Just make sure you drain the tank below the valve.
If the mineral build up on the anode rod is keeping the rod from corroding then maybe it's also protecting the tank from corrosion :)
Steven Neuberger good point
a coating of salt is not protecting your car. The Anode needs to be bare.
Calcium buildup creates different electrical potentials but does not protect the tank.
Hello, really interesting video, but one question though. Is it possible with a multimeter to check if the Anode is still work fine before attenting to remove it? Thanks, regards,
Seems like a better idea to just replace it if you don't know how old it is and then replace it every 3 years... for $10/year... seems like an easy decision... why push it to the limit? It's not worth the risk or the effort.
@2:34 use a breaker bar & a 5lb sledge...tap it until it comes loose. Don't try to get it all at once, patience & persistence is the key - Maybe put a few drops of 3in1 & let it set for a few hours b4 you go 4 it.
With limited clearance for removal, would it be ok to use a reciprocating saw with Diablo blade for cutting or would I have to use hacksaw by hand?
the more i think about it.... ya the Teflon tape on the threads of the anode would help with it not leaking but wouldn't it also electrically insulate the anode form the steel of the tank? which is the reason in the 1st place for the anode being there isnt it?
The comments on this video are so awesome I can hardly believe I'm on the internet!
I did not take anode rod for long time. I am thinking of flushing water through for 3 fill-refill cycle in tank to get all built up calcium on bottom. Also, think of putting vinegar and 3-fill-refill cycle. What do you think?
That is not a deep socket.
Anode rods are available through Home Depot.
Just bought one yesterday, $21 (Can.) for the aluminum or $23 for the Magnesium.
Just going to tackle it, thanks for the tips, Extra pipe (what us truckers call a snipe) and leaving it mostly full for the weight.
The man at the store told me that with the water we have (Vancouver) they seldom need replacing, and never need the magnesium. (This store only stocks the Aluminum.)
Wish they would get these in Montana
I wish I can love this video instead of like! Great job fellas.
When do you replace the anode rod? How long are they good for?
I'm removing my anode rod, and the instructions say to use a 1 - 1/16 inch socket. The socket has some play and does not seem to be the right size. This anode rod came with the Rheem water heater. I tried a 26mm, but that is too small, and a 27mm is a bit larger. Is there a specific size that will fit on the anode rod nut?
Three or four hefty guys, 3/4 inch inch drive breaker bar with 3/4 inch drive socket and 6 foot cheater pipe. Three days of solvent soaking, spare plumbing parts and spare hot water tank if you break something. Drill hole in ceiling to allow long tube insertion. Easily done by homeowner
I've been staring at my water heater for the last month thinking about installing a recirculating pump. But I know as soon as I touch something I'm going to break something cuz it's so old. This video is very helpful confirming many of my fears. Having a spare wh ready sounds like a good idea.
Every foot of length increases the torque such that no matter how much torque is required, length accommodates. Obviously you run into real world limitations but you get my drift.
Also before changing,cool tank down and release pressure drain few gallons .Of course cut gas supply off.
Paul Justis: Uh, yeah. He addresses that in the video, except for cooling it down. Why would he cool it down? It shouldn't be more than 120-140°F... It's not like he's pulling the rod out of a 375° oven.
Just seen a video before that suggested cool down,rod hot to bare hands.
How long do the rods usually last? Or just check them every year?
Is there a general guidance on how often to replace the anode? I last did mine 5 years ago. Plan to do it again this weekend. I bet this one comes out easier than the original.
Check every 3
Would filing off the calcium extend the life of the rod?
Absolutely! He didn't do that in the video because replacement is only $30. His time is worth more than that.
Sabine
That's BS! I've done it before and there was no problem. Why buy a new one when, you can extend the life of the old one?
Neil Williams Because it’s uneconomic for a professional.
Soaking it in CLR or Vinegar probably get that stuff off I wonder if there is a way to prevent the calcium from getting on there I guess you can flush it out periodically