Loved the video! As a GIS person with the 13 pro I was excited to get a general model of my yard using LiDAR. Great to hear from a surveying prospective
Also, which software apps are you using to: 1. Capture the scans on the iPhone 13 Pro 2. Process the scanned point clouds on your computer? 3. Register the different scans into one big scan Thanks!
Very nice About the GCPs, we've now added support for the viDoc RTK, it's a much cheaper solution to existing devices, and you can measure GCPs in the app. Not only that, we also use it during capture to get much better initial results
It is really awesome to see this type of video. I still remember the forums back in 2020 full a surveyors excited and asking if it will be possible to measure accurate and make workflows using just your iPhone’s lidar. The answer was yes and obviously it is the same proven workflow we had for years with conventional equipment. I really hope we get to the point where surveying equipment will be much more accesible ($$$).
What is the app you are using on the iPhone? I have android, but this ability is intriguing. I am the GPS machine control model builder and topo guy at my company and if I could get stock pile quantities with an iPhone over physically taking every shot with gps, this could be beneficial.
HYD Spindle is movable, use a bonnet bolt on the HYD. then call out which bolt is used for the benchmark! Just a tip. I sometimes use a chisel to make an XCUT in the bonnet bolt, but DPW is not a fan of this.
Hi sir hope you’re doing great !! I just want to know, that is there any course which is related to the use of lidar technology in building construction? On Coursera or on any other platform, or you can teach us like surveying, levelling, etc. Of roads and building by using iPhone 15 pro. That would be very helpful sir. Thanks for giving me your precious time!!
Very good technology. Im cartographer tecnician. I am very happy that the technology has advanced so much.With this technology, GPS and many other measuring devices can be history. It would be great if there is a feature to give coordinates to the area measured with the camera.
I'm a drone mapper, and you can do that with an RTK PPK drone such as the autel evo 2 pro RTK. It's pretty great at creating ground control points with quite remarkable accuracy and giving coordinates outside of the control points. Often within a few cm 🤙 pretty expensive setup and software though
At 6:44 when you talk about making layers, is the iPhone good enough to distinguish between ground and ground cover? If I could create a micro elevation of the soil under my lawn and garden that would be very helpful for fixing a drainage problem. I'm thinking of resolution to 1/4-inch. Would more passes with the iPhone give better resolution. Criss-cross patterns? Spiral patterns?
Awesome video. This is great information... my application would be for metal detecting if like regular Lidar it could spot areas that used to have buildings on them. I'd also like to get a new drone that has this built in.
You have some pretty cool videos. Wondering how a noob like me can use some of what you show to practical use. I'm looking to buy some land and many of the plots are not level. I don't want to replace having a proper survey but might want to eliminate some properties from my search. So, how can I use the lidar of my iPhone to let me know the elevations I may have across different areas of my property? Definitely not buying AutoCad.
hey Rami, i have a question. How accurate is the gnss app and rtk rover integrated as one compared to a normal base station and rover set up? I saw in your video you use the gnss app and rtk rover to collect ground control points, but i always wondered how precise is that set up, is it similar to the leica gs18I tilt compensation rtk rover?
Rami, thanks for sharing your videos, they are amazing. I wonder if the sensor is able for mapping topographic surfaces in shallow water (1-2 feet for example) from above the surface, of course. Have you tested it already?
Thanks for the video. I’m an architect and I use Revit 3D software for my design work. I’ve done about ten projects using a (expensive) Faro scanner and can import the point cloud using Autodesk’s Recap software. How can the iPhone’s scans be imported into Revit? That would be a real gamer-changer!
If you use Autodesk flow of work it should be an ease. All point clouds can be exported in .laz and you can import .laz files into recap. Maybe more relevant questions would be if accuracy and georeferencing is important to you?. For real projects accuracy are often a must and iPhones do not have the accuracy you need for that. Then you have a project that is not really attached to any coordinate systems unless you establish ground control points and measure them physically (that requires a gnss receiver). I would definitely give this a go for preliminary sketches/ideas, preliminary existing conditions that do not require accuracy. I would concentrate my efforts on small projects since the iPhone can only do so much on bigger sites (larger files tend to be a problem).
hey tamimi. can you make a video about the dji phantom 4 pro rtk drone connected to the cors station by the ppk method. then the photos from the drone already have global coordinates. do comparison correction if not tied to gcp
Hi Tamini. wich do you prefer? Iphone or Ipad, when we need better precision in industrial work? which scanner device to attach to Apple do you recommend? can you help me with a good device for this that does not cost so much
Can I do an accurate merge of the scanning projects into one with out GCP? Just with the iphone and perhaps using a DJI gimbal? Great content mate! Greetings from Paraguay!!
iPhone 13 Pro, but you can use any iPhone with a LiDAR Sensor. I used the Pix4Dcatch app. And no, you simply hit the shutter button once and it begins collecting data.
Rami, great work, thank you! I am curious if you were to mount the phone to say a camera tripod and do the scans from fixed points. If it would improve the data. This would mean the data relied less on the IMU to keep track of all erratic movements. Thoughts?
I'm in the surveying business and this technology is both good and bad, i have ran into surveyors in new york that clearly use technology like this and when we go back to the subject property the client is wondering why the results are so different. This type of work needs to be done at centimeter level accuracy but some surveyors are abusing the fast and easy yet not accurate technology like this and producing legal documents.
Rami: You can make a topo survey with just an iphone! Also Rami: uses a GNSS receiver for control points😂 I love this channel. I'm learning so much. Please do tons more videos. I actually just switched to the iphone and bought the dji om 5. Totally revamping how my company does site investigation. Now I just need to get a GNSS receiver.
Rami greetings from Peru, I would like to know if you know if the lidar of the iphon was tested in a closed environment such as a salon to know if it also registers it. Thank you
Is it legal for a person who is not a licensed surveyor to provide data to a surveyor? I'm in NC, which has statutes on the subject if that makes any difference. Your content is great at any rate.
I love this video, I am just curious if any other phone can be used like this. I have been a fan of Samsung always, the RTK surveys we do seem to go a lot smoother whenever I am running a hotspot off of my Samsung vs my coworkers Iphone. I am due for an upgrade and would love to go for the note 10 or the s20 plus because they may have similar 3d modeling abilities. Is an attempt at a Topographic survey like this only possible with an iphone or would one of the android models be capable of this as well?
What about Vidoc pix4d? The rtk antena to use with iPhone lidar? Do you know a cheaper vidoc antena or rtk phone solution? 3d scanner app just got updated with many new features!
Hey @Rami Tamimi I have a question for you... Using the iPhone LiDAR can we measure the volume of a big boulder??? If we can please make video about it please.
@@RamiTamimi everything looks better in feet 🤣 I haven't realize the iPhone was using gnss with Lidar, which means that with an external simple rtk receiver we could possibly achieve stunning results while highly reducing drift... I don't know how those apps work but they clearly use some kind of sensor fusion algorithm between lidar odometry and gnss... They're really one tiny step away from getting awesome results with the aid of an external device. Real-time would be a little bit trickier but post processing would definitely be easy. There's probably no market for that for anyone to get their hands on it though. Thanks for the test, it's always interesting anyway.
In this area topo is pronounced toe-po when used as just topo. When topographical is used it's top-o-graphical. Hearing it pronounced toe-po-graphical is driving me crazy. (But everyone just calls it toe-po most of the time.) A guy at work would use top-o for the plan old topo (not the full topographical). My bother-in-law (we work together) kept telling him, "It's toe-po. Stop saying top-o." It drove him crazy. I thought it was funny. (Not my brother-in-law telling him over & over. Just the guy not even thinking about saying it any differently. I would have tried a few times then let him say it how he wasted. The guy didn't listen to a lot of things & that was one of them. He never acknowledged ever hearing it.) He keep calling Surveyors asking for a Top-o that I've known for years & I've never heard a single one of them say anything but toe-po, unless they use the the whole thing with "graphical" on the end. Before that job I worked for a couple of those surveyors as party chief & I did a good many topos (toe-po/tow-po) not one single person ever pronounced topo as top-o. Hearing the full topographical pronounced toe-po-graphical I realize the guy at work saying top-o must have really drove my brother-in-law nuts. But, that's how we say it around my area. Also... ...Cool video on all that. Thanks for sharing it. That's one thing I wish Samsung had stuck with (& used better tech than they did when they used similar tech). It's something I find myself needing more & more. (Well beoynd what you can get on any Apple product, but could use it to the level that's found I'm their products. But, I am surprised at the accuracy they manage to get without it & I'm also curious as to how that is done and also how far it could be taken.)
The fact that you give out that Information for free is just amazing. Thank you!
Loved the video! As a GIS person with the 13 pro I was excited to get a general model of my yard using LiDAR. Great to hear from a surveying prospective
Also, which software apps are you using to:
1. Capture the scans on the iPhone 13 Pro
2. Process the scanned point clouds on your computer?
3. Register the different scans into one big scan
Thanks!
Was wondering the same thing regarding the phone application.
Very nice
About the GCPs, we've now added support for the viDoc RTK, it's a much cheaper solution to existing devices, and you can measure GCPs in the app. Not only that, we also use it during capture to get much better initial results
accuracy to what level is it to cms?
Cool. May I know what app were you using to scan to produce the point cloud?
What is the name of the app?
It is really awesome to see this type of video. I still remember the forums back in 2020 full a surveyors excited and asking if it will be possible to measure accurate and make workflows using just your iPhone’s lidar. The answer was yes and obviously it is the same proven workflow we had for years with conventional equipment. I really hope we get to the point where surveying equipment will be much more accesible ($$$).
It's amazing this tech is so readily available. I feel bad for not buying an iPad with LiDAR when they first came out!
Absolutely amazing what technology can do. Will be interesting to see how surveying evolves over the next decade. Really neat video!
You and me both! Thanks for the kind words.
Awesome video Rami, you are seeking answers for questions a lot of people have!
Mind blown. How cool is this. Thanks Rami for putting this together
Hello Rami, pretty cool job you did there. One question..which app are you using for capturing the point cloud?
Very informative. Which scanning application have u used for scanning?
This music makes me want to start skating
BRO! Wow, nothing for the average Joe\Jane! Lol. It was fun to watch, you're content was fire!
what's the name of the app that you used to scan on the iPhone??
Rami, thanks for your video. What app do you use to make the photos?
You would make a great LS. I enjoyed watching this video. Thank you and happy 2022!
I really appreciate that. Soon, very soon!
What is the app you are using on the iPhone? I have android, but this ability is intriguing. I am the GPS machine control model builder and topo guy at my company and if I could get stock pile quantities with an iPhone over physically taking every shot with gps, this could be beneficial.
Hi Rami , could you share with us the app. that used in iphone for scanning?
HYD Spindle is movable, use a bonnet bolt on the HYD. then call out which bolt is used for the benchmark! Just a tip. I sometimes use a chisel to make an XCUT in the bonnet bolt, but DPW is not a fan of this.
Hi, thanks for the practical examples. Always interesting. Can you tell me what APP you used for scanning?
of course no problem. Pix4dCatch
Honestly even having the scans would help tremendously with drafting surveys done in the field.
Yes, this data as a supplement would be great!
Hi sir hope you’re doing great !! I just want to know, that is there any course which is related to the use of lidar technology in building construction? On Coursera or on any other platform, or you can teach us like surveying, levelling, etc. Of roads and building by using iPhone 15 pro. That would be very helpful sir. Thanks for giving me your precious time!!
Many thanks - a very informative and useful video.
Go off, Rami 😩👏🏻
Thank you!
What is the application with which you use the mobile and the rtk gps. congratulations for the videos
For the scanning I used Pix4dCatch, and for the GNSS I used Emlid Reachview 3
@@RamiTamimi hi! I can’t work with those apps. Could you please show us how to.
Great job Rami 👍
Thanks 😀
Very good technology. Im cartographer tecnician. I am very happy that the technology has advanced so much.With this technology, GPS and many other measuring devices can be history. It would be great if there is a feature to give coordinates to the area measured with the camera.
I'm a drone mapper, and you can do that with an RTK PPK drone such as the autel evo 2 pro RTK. It's pretty great at creating ground control points with quite remarkable accuracy and giving coordinates outside of the control points. Often within a few cm 🤙 pretty expensive setup and software though
Fantastic content👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This is awesome, Rami. Curious if any of your work/experimentation with the iPhone LiDAR sensor has made its way into your academic research?
Would be nice if you make Acquired data available, just for practice purposes
At 6:44 when you talk about making layers, is the iPhone good enough to distinguish between ground and ground cover? If I could create a micro elevation of the soil under my lawn and garden that would be very helpful for fixing a drainage problem. I'm thinking of resolution to 1/4-inch. Would more passes with the iPhone give better resolution. Criss-cross patterns? Spiral patterns?
Rami ur videos are excellent . can u make more videos by using iphone 15 pro max in the field of civil engineering field problems
Excelente aporte.
If you had more GCP, over lapping scans, would that increase the accuracy?
Of course, in the future videos I am going to try increasing the accuracy of the project.
Awesome video. This is great information... my application would be for metal detecting if like regular Lidar it could spot areas that used to have buildings on them. I'd also like to get a new drone that has this built in.
Great suggestion!
What app are you using to scan?
You have some pretty cool videos. Wondering how a noob like me can use some of what you show to practical use. I'm looking to buy some land and many of the plots are not level. I don't want to replace having a proper survey but might want to eliminate some properties from my search. So, how can I use the lidar of my iPhone to let me know the elevations I may have across different areas of my property? Definitely not buying AutoCad.
hey Rami, i have a question. How accurate is the gnss app and rtk rover integrated as one compared to a normal base station and rover set up? I saw in your video you use the gnss app and rtk rover to collect ground control points, but i always wondered how precise is that set up, is it similar to the leica gs18I tilt compensation rtk rover?
How about doing wooded land, more useful example for developers
Rami, thanks for sharing your videos, they are amazing. I wonder if the sensor is able for mapping topographic surfaces in shallow water (1-2 feet for example) from above the surface, of course. Have you tested it already?
Love Your Stuff Rami. I have a 13 Max with Catch, just not getting it right. Can you do a settings and how to export video,
Thanks for the video.
I’m an architect and I use Revit 3D software for my design work. I’ve done about ten projects using a (expensive) Faro scanner and can import the point cloud using Autodesk’s Recap software.
How can the iPhone’s scans be imported into Revit? That would be a real gamer-changer!
If you use Autodesk flow of work it should be an ease. All point clouds can be exported in .laz and you can import .laz files into recap. Maybe more relevant questions would be if accuracy and georeferencing is important to you?. For real projects accuracy are often a must and iPhones do not have the accuracy you need for that. Then you have a project that is not really attached to any coordinate systems unless you establish ground control points and measure them physically (that requires a gnss receiver). I would definitely give this a go for preliminary sketches/ideas, preliminary existing conditions that do not require accuracy. I would concentrate my efforts on small projects since the iPhone can only do so much on bigger sites (larger files tend to be a problem).
Engineer here, same question. We use a Leica scanner
hey tamimi. can you make a video about the dji phantom 4 pro rtk drone connected to the cors station by the ppk method. then the photos from the drone already have global coordinates. do comparison correction if not tied to gcp
Great idea. Expect this video in the Spring.
Hi Tamini.
wich do you prefer? Iphone or Ipad, when we need better precision in industrial work? which scanner device to attach to Apple do you recommend? can you help me with a good device for this that does not cost so much
Can I do an accurate merge of the scanning projects into one with out GCP? Just with the iphone and perhaps using a DJI gimbal? Great content mate! Greetings from Paraguay!!
What iPhone model and software are you using. Does the software have you hold the shutter open or take snapshots?
iPhone 13 Pro, but you can use any iPhone with a LiDAR Sensor. I used the Pix4Dcatch app. And no, you simply hit the shutter button once and it begins collecting data.
@@RamiTamimi Sir, May I ask are there any skills of holding the iPhone to get better result?
Please explain the concept of least count in PHOTOGRAMMETRY !!!
Does it exists or not?!????
can u mount on drone to plot map of proposed A to B robotaxi? then mount back to robotaxi for further naviation autonomously using mapped data?
Excelente!!
Rami, great work, thank you! I am curious if you were to mount the phone to say a camera tripod and do the scans from fixed points. If it would improve the data.
This would mean the data relied less on the IMU to keep track of all erratic movements. Thoughts?
So there is no IMU in the iPhone. We could introduce one coupled with an RTK Antenna.
@@RamiTamimi is ppk a possibility with the Emlid?
Maybe I missed it but do you explain what softwares you are using in this video? (Scan software, data processing software, etc)
brother you must put more option of payment methods in your survey shirt website such as VISA I could not purses items from Saudi Arabia!
Very good! How the apple meter acurate?
I'm in the surveying business and this technology is both good and bad, i have ran into surveyors in new york that clearly use technology like this and when we go back to the subject property the client is wondering why the results are so different. This type of work needs to be done at centimeter level accuracy but some surveyors are abusing the fast and easy yet not accurate technology like this and producing legal documents.
my first question is which is the best total station or iphone lidar my sec question is is only iphone 13 has this lidar. thanks
Total Station is better of course, it is a professional piece of equipment. The iPhone 12 Pro also has a LiDAR Sensor
Wonder if the accuracy could be increased if using a DJI iPhone gimbal to stabilise the iPhone better when scanning?
Rami: You can make a topo survey with just an iphone!
Also Rami: uses a GNSS receiver for control points😂
I love this channel. I'm learning so much. Please do tons more videos. I actually just switched to the iphone and bought the dji om 5. Totally revamping how my company does site investigation. Now I just need to get a GNSS receiver.
Hahaha contradiction is my main skill set 🤥😅
Looks like my neighborhood in Sterling Heights lol
As for using it to gather information of the ground heights, totally plausible for a project right?
Rami greetings from Peru, I would like to know if you know if the lidar of the iphon was tested in a closed environment such as a salon to know if it also registers it. Thank you
Is it legal for a person who is not a licensed surveyor to provide data to a surveyor? I'm in NC, which has statutes on the subject if that makes any difference. Your content is great at any rate.
Hello Rami! Did you check the 14 PRO? Is there an upgrade to the Lidar Scanner? Could the new gyroscope improve the Lidar accuracy?
I love this video, I am just curious if any other phone can be used like this. I have been a fan of Samsung always, the RTK surveys we do seem to go a lot smoother whenever I am running a hotspot off of my Samsung vs my coworkers Iphone. I am due for an upgrade and would love to go for the note 10 or the s20 plus because they may have similar 3d modeling abilities. Is an attempt at a Topographic survey like this only possible with an iphone or would one of the android models be capable of this as well?
Great 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Please test this moasure device
Does the RTK unit on the Mavic 3 Enterprise make a difference with out a base station?
Rami, can i put 3d model from lidar on iphone, on google earth pro to saw some objects
Fascinating. Thank you. How large are the point cloud files?
My pleasure, they are surprisingly very small, less than 100 MB each.
I'm currently looking for a Samsung version with lidar we use a C10 and ap40 at work
Why don't you tape the phone to your drone and do a gride scan
What about Vidoc pix4d? The rtk antena to use with iPhone lidar?
Do you know a cheaper vidoc antena or rtk phone solution?
3d scanner app just got updated with many new features!
Bonjour,
Quel logiciel avez vous utilisez sur l’iPhone?
Do Companies in America need or require a survey Engineer ?
Hai rami, can you make a tutorial to make a corridor in Autocad civil 3D used photogrametry/drone data? Thank you!
Whats app in iPhone used?
Why no one has used the iphone and wrote an app to do topographical survey. Will be a big money maker, it think.
What software other than Civil 3D can you display the topo points?
DAY-TOOK-CAR-JOBS! 🤣
I didn't catch which app you are using for the capture.
And I don't see it in the description.
Hey @Rami Tamimi I have a question for you... Using the iPhone LiDAR can we measure the volume of a big boulder??? If we can please make video about it please.
There are apps that will calculate stockpile volumes
lidar x3
Video of with Catch
can this method be used for geodetic surveying via iPhone? Does it provide a cloud of points that can be imported into civilian 3d and georeferenced?
Yes it does, the hardware and software still needs improving but the methodology is there.
LiDAR WHICH AAP USED IN IPHONE
What is this application on your iphone?
What is the name of the app used?!??
Muito bom
Obrigada
Which app did you use on iphone?
Try mounting the iphone on a drone next time maybe will be more accurate
I was going to use a gimble next time, should give cleaner data.
What software are you using?
What app were you using?
who aplication you use?
What app is that please?
what iphone app is useed
What app is this?
what app are you using to generate the point cloud within the iphone?
Pix4Dcatch
name of the application?
Why? If someone wanted to LiDAR slam your home you’ve just given them extra data.
5:45 what are the units of these residuals ? If meters it seems pretty terrible...
These are in feet, which is still pretty terrible because the iPhones GPS isn’t very good.
@@RamiTamimi everything looks better in feet 🤣
I haven't realize the iPhone was using gnss with Lidar, which means that with an external simple rtk receiver we could possibly achieve stunning results while highly reducing drift... I don't know how those apps work but they clearly use some kind of sensor fusion algorithm between lidar odometry and gnss... They're really one tiny step away from getting awesome results with the aid of an external device. Real-time would be a little bit trickier but post processing would definitely be easy. There's probably no market for that for anyone to get their hands on it though.
Thanks for the test, it's always interesting anyway.
In this area topo is pronounced toe-po when used as just topo. When topographical is used it's top-o-graphical. Hearing it pronounced toe-po-graphical is driving me crazy. (But everyone just calls it toe-po most of the time.)
A guy at work would use top-o for the plan old topo (not the full topographical). My bother-in-law (we work together) kept telling him, "It's toe-po. Stop saying top-o." It drove him crazy. I thought it was funny. (Not my brother-in-law telling him over & over. Just the guy not even thinking about saying it any differently. I would have tried a few times then let him say it how he wasted. The guy didn't listen to a lot of things & that was one of them. He never acknowledged ever hearing it.)
He keep calling Surveyors asking for a Top-o that I've known for years & I've never heard a single one of them say anything but toe-po, unless they use the the whole thing with "graphical" on the end. Before that job I worked for a couple of those surveyors as party chief & I did a good many topos (toe-po/tow-po) not one single person ever pronounced topo as top-o.
Hearing the full topographical pronounced toe-po-graphical I realize the guy at work saying top-o must have really drove my brother-in-law nuts.
But, that's how we say it around my area.
Also...
...Cool video on all that. Thanks for sharing it. That's one thing I wish Samsung had stuck with (& used better tech than they did when they used similar tech). It's something I find myself needing more & more. (Well beoynd what you can get on any Apple product, but could use it to the level that's found I'm their products. But, I am surprised at the accuracy they manage to get without it & I'm also curious as to how that is done and also how far it could be taken.)
Again thanks for making a video on this. It's cool to me & new. (Even if the video is a couple or years old.