Foster Associates. The quality of this proposal was head and shoulders above the others. Foster Associates always brings expertise to the table that no other firm in the world can match. In the US, building proposals are rarely selected based on excellence, more often on the web of professional connections among decision-makers and financial backers.
It's the Peterson Littenberg design but with towers as high as the original towers. But I want to tell that many of the concepts are very creative and a lot of the ideas and designs had been compromised with the current plain design. I also like one of the Libeskind design similar to Merdeka tower, probably better than Merdeka. I like the hollow grid design at the top. I wonder what it will really look like.
I wish they had just rebuilt the towers but made them sturdier, safer, and maybe a *slightly* different facade. I always just wanted the towers and the skyline back that was taken from us.
Honestly I don't really think the fascade needs to be changed at all, it's what gave them that simplistic, easy to draw appearance that so many people love, but then again you did say only slightly. I understand why they went with what we have, but having to rebuild them would go so hard.
I agree. They should have replaced the towers but NO, they replaced them with a piece of sh-t. Slapped New York in the face with that ugly and uninspired tower of crap.
Many of the plans struck me as being what you called, "a city within a city." Separated from the grid and functions of lower Manhattan, yet still being a part of the location. My only visit to the Twin Towers was in the 1990s on a cold winter Sunday when the site was barren of people. It struck me as a frigid wasteland, as the cold wind that blew across the vast plaza reminded me of this. Having walked for many blocks to reach this area, through what is the normal function of the people of NYC to what seemed like a dead zone in the city I was surprised how Liebiskind's design attempts to reconnect the area and not be just another 'city within a city.' Many of the other designs seemed massive in scale to the surrounding structures and if they were to be massive, then they should have been twice as tall as planned. Two thousand eight hundred feet tall and not just 1,400 feet tall. Overall, I feel they got it right. The scale, symbolism, and connection all seem to work with the whole of NYC.
I'm happy with the current set of buildings and memorials as they are today. Just thinking about that day and how it changed our country forever brings tears to my eyes. I've not been to the site yet but friends who have say it will grip you to your bones. I'll never forget the sounds of the people hitting the roof of the ground floor after they jumped from the windows to avoid burning to death. RIP all who passed.
It should be better but what was done is reasonably successful. It could have been much worse. The strenuous oversight of the projects kept that from happening.
I thought about it for a while, the lobbies' skeletons memorial fits better. The pools represent the emptiness that was created after they torn the skyline apart, a painful reminder of the day that changed the world for the worse, so it would look weird to have the very identical towers that were taken away next to them
YOUR TAX-DOLLARS AT WORK - - from WORST to NEAR-WORST 13:09 - - hideous 13:12 - - atrocious 13:06 - - hidi-a-trocious 11:47 - - tranquil plaza ?! 13:53 - - hope ?! looks like a b🗯️mb went off 13:35 - - clown show unveils mangled building 3:24 - - used car salesman presents smashed punch-bowl 10:05 - - disgusting glut of crooked office space 10:10 - - builds all over footprints - no park space 10:28 - - wtf am I even looking at ??? 7:31 - - field goal posts 8:08 - - builds all over footprints - 7:36 8:49 - - BLOOD RED streets for 15 blocks ?! - 8:58 9:28 - - crooked shadows ? - 9:07 5:59 - - dented 5:34 - - bented 5:59 - - demented 3:55 - - doesn’t “restore” - too skeletal 3:58 - - too rickety - not strong or safe 4:03 - - terr🗯️r-ists won 6:25 - - topped with a dust-buster
Rather it looks like the individual panels of the facade of the original complex, especially visible on Ground Zero, as the towers desintegrated into bits. But still, it looks monstrous because of the scale.
Quite frankly, all of these are ugly and way too gimicci. It feels like the designers designed them with a cool building in mind first, and an actually functional site and memorial second. Non of these fit in the city at all, and especially the skyline. The thing about the original WTC is that it was very big yes, but everything was connected with each other pretty nicely, while here stuff feels like it's thrown all over the place without much thought. Even though I don't like it as much as the original, I do like the current WTC overall and it was easily the best choice out of all these ridiciolous concepts.
Thanks for watching it! We get what you’re saying about some of the designs feeling a bit over-the-top or disconnected. They definitely had a tough job trying to honor the past while creating something new and bold. The final design of One World Trade Center ended up being a more functional and cohesive choice for the skyline.
@@MegaBuilds5280 david childs STOLE the 1wtc design from architecture student Jeehoon Park + was summarily sued - - he settled out of court to avoid further embarrassment (which he rightfully deserved); before that he stole the previous design from architecture student Thomas Shine - - and also settled that lawsuit out of court as well.
@@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu Fr Like, what were United Architechts smoking when they designed their proposal. It looks more like a giant alien than it does a building.
Foster Associates' scheme would have been a real achievement, but it was blocked by the political machinations of New York real estate big shots out to maximize their own benefit financial benefit. The scheme offered up by Richard Meier, Steven Holl, and Peter Eisenman was not well developed or presented, but it had enormous potential. I think there is widespread agreement in the architectural community that David Child's unimaginative, banal design was not built because it was good but because Child's and SOM worked the levers of power and pandered to developers in New York real estate better than anyone else. The best you can say is that it could have very easily been much worse. The development of the site was well done overall; its not an embarrassment but it was no great achievement. The opportunity to do something great that the events of 9/11 seemed to call for was missed.
I don't normally agree with Trump, but the Twins needed rebuilding. Glass cladding like OWTC has now would've been perfect. I love Foster + Partners 2WTC but I'll be amazed if that ever gets built. Otherwise, some awful proposals here. Those submissions were mostly a joke, surely?
The only problem with rebuilding the twin towers exactly how they were, is just how eerie it would be, especially with the plane that hit and the people who jumped to their deaths :(
2:25 This but Instead have the New Twins Farther diagonally from the pools Giving Respectable Space while opening up in the Center alas having a more Cohesive new Complex that honors Everyone
@@Curlywhrly yes, i know, but i like the general idea of that, not only Trump proposed this idea, but he was the one who was most interesting in the public to support this idea
I think they did the best they could. The tower is impressive, but not intrusive. The surrounding plaza is extremely handsome, and the grace of the transportation center is superb. The other towers are ordinary and without grace, but after Covid, all office space in Manhattan has become almost redundant. Overall, I think it's a success. Conservative, but successful.
I disagree as they couldn’t even make it a true 1776 ft in height and had to put a ridiculous large spire on top to make up the difference. The best NY and America could do would at least make the tallest building in the world in response. But really the NY cesspool of politics failed them as it took nearly a decade to even get the building built, when in comparison the Empire State Building took only 2 years nearly a Century ago. It just goes to show you how much red tape and corruption there is in real estate and building anything in NY anymore.
I really like the one with the memorial & muesuem platforms on the skeleton structures, I think that would have someway brought them back but still ofcourse honoring the ones we lost that day. RIP. The new tower is nice but its just like any ordinary city skyline with one building. I'll visit it someday.
Wow One horrible ugly design after another, they should just have let the place stand as is, a perfect monument to the government's incompetence that allowed this horror.
Even tho it's to late the failed legacy is still dead but the one that's advertising and show casing first should of been the one the one that looks like the twin towers with the twisted shape they messed up big time
Theres only one correct answer here: The Twin towers (with obv more modern material/safeguards) should have been rebuilt with the exact same design as the first 2. I always felt in changing the design, we gave up on them. No statement would have been stronger then putting them both right back tf up (with the memorials included)
Like most Americans, you hate architecture and want buildings to be unchallenging to your sensibilities-or more or less just like what you see around you.
@@MT34829What I said. Take it at face value. I'm an architect, and among the things we note is that many clients and members of the public dismiss or express dislike of objectively better design proposals in favor of design schemes that are consistent with what they know. And what they know is McMansions and the dumbed-down architecture of real estate developers.
Should have built President Trump's design. This is carbon free urban planning with low cost infrastructure. These towers should be built by the thousands throughout the world. If built in Central America there would be no need for mass exodus of the population.
You have got to be kidding. Trump's proposal shows what many already knew about him: that he was a schlock real estate developer who was constantly trying to push himself into the spotlight. Where do you get "carbon-free planning and low-cost infrastructure and how do you build office towers in New York with thousands worldwide? How does that make sense? How would building these buildings in Central America end the mass exodus from those countries? Migrants from Central America aren't coming here in search of class-A office space. Get a grip on reality.
@@davidjgill4902 Thank you, I highly agree. I get some of Trump's sentiment regarding the towers, but it just wasn't feasible. Logistically it would have been a nightmare filling that office space back in. Also people should properly attribute the design of "Twin Towers 2" to the architect Herbert Belton and engineer Kenneth Gardner. Trump had little bearing on the WTC project apart from saying "hey I like the idea of rebuilding the originals but better" and (this is coming from someone who doesn't support him) doing a decent job of promoting it. It's among the few intentions of his where I actually saw him thinking a sentiment shared across a good number of people, yet I believe there would have been an outweighing opposition due to the painful memory of the original towers and that day of infamy.
If you could choose one of the seven alternative designs, which one would it be and why?
Foster Associates. The quality of this proposal was head and shoulders above the others. Foster Associates always brings expertise to the table that no other firm in the world can match. In the US, building proposals are rarely selected based on excellence, more often on the web of professional connections among decision-makers and financial backers.
None of them. They are all absolutely hideous.
It's the Peterson Littenberg design but with towers as high as the original towers.
But I want to tell that many of the concepts are very creative and a lot of the ideas and designs had been compromised with the current plain design. I also like one of the Libeskind design similar to Merdeka tower, probably better than Merdeka. I like the hollow grid design at the top. I wonder what it will really look like.
I wish they had just rebuilt the towers but made them sturdier, safer, and maybe a *slightly* different facade. I always just wanted the towers and the skyline back that was taken from us.
Honestly I don't really think the fascade needs to be changed at all,
it's what gave them that simplistic, easy to draw appearance that so many people love, but then again you did say only slightly. I understand why they went with what we have, but having to rebuild them would go so hard.
@@ZIOMEB256Think the windows could’ve been wider
@@artistmi5361 Hmm, maybe
I agree. They should have replaced the towers but NO, they replaced them with a piece of sh-t. Slapped New York in the face with that ugly and uninspired tower of crap.
That was Donald Trump's idea.
Many of the plans struck me as being what you called, "a city within a city." Separated from the grid and functions of lower Manhattan, yet still being a part of the location. My only visit to the Twin Towers was in the 1990s on a cold winter Sunday when the site was barren of people. It struck me as a frigid wasteland, as the cold wind that blew across the vast plaza reminded me of this. Having walked for many blocks to reach this area, through what is the normal function of the people of NYC to what seemed like a dead zone in the city I was surprised how Liebiskind's design attempts to reconnect the area and not be just another 'city within a city.' Many of the other designs seemed massive in scale to the surrounding structures and if they were to be massive, then they should have been twice as tall as planned. Two thousand eight hundred feet tall and not just 1,400 feet tall. Overall, I feel they got it right. The scale, symbolism, and connection all seem to work with the whole of NYC.
I'm happy with the current set of buildings and memorials as they are today. Just thinking about that day and how it changed our country forever brings tears to my eyes. I've not been to the site yet but friends who have say it will grip you to your bones. I'll never forget the sounds of the people hitting the roof of the ground floor after they jumped from the windows to avoid burning to death. RIP all who passed.
It should be better but what was done is reasonably successful. It could have been much worse. The strenuous oversight of the projects kept that from happening.
I like the vertical city idea.
Imagine the Donald Trump design with the footprint pools we have IRL, would be way better
I thought about it for a while, the lobbies' skeletons memorial fits better. The pools represent the emptiness that was created after they torn the skyline apart, a painful reminder of the day that changed the world for the worse, so it would look weird to have the very identical towers that were taken away next to them
YOUR TAX-DOLLARS AT WORK - - from WORST to NEAR-WORST
13:09 - - hideous
13:12 - - atrocious
13:06 - - hidi-a-trocious
11:47 - - tranquil plaza ?!
13:53 - - hope ?! looks like a b🗯️mb went off
13:35 - - clown show unveils mangled building
3:24 - - used car salesman presents smashed punch-bowl
10:05 - - disgusting glut of crooked office space
10:10 - - builds all over footprints - no park space
10:28 - - wtf am I even looking at ???
7:31 - - field goal posts
8:08 - - builds all over footprints - 7:36
8:49 - - BLOOD RED streets for 15 blocks ?! - 8:58
9:28 - - crooked shadows ? - 9:07
5:59 - - dented
5:34 - - bented
5:59 - - demented
3:55 - - doesn’t “restore” - too skeletal
3:58 - - too rickety - not strong or safe
4:03 - - terr🗯️r-ists won
6:25 - - topped with a dust-buster
“Dented… Bented… Demented” have me absolutely dying omg 😭
@@sergpie 😁thanks - - yes they ARE!
I think the other designs bordered on the absurd, with one looking like a giant game of Tic Tac Toe.
Rather it looks like the individual panels of the facade of the original complex, especially visible on Ground Zero, as the towers desintegrated into bits. But still, it looks monstrous because of the scale.
You misspelled Raphael Vinoly's name
1:17 the Great Seal of the State of Alexandria? Where’s that?
Thanks for watching it and pointing that mistake.
In other words, we could've gotten something wayyy worse built there instead...
Quite frankly, all of these are ugly and way too gimicci.
It feels like the designers designed them with a cool building in mind first,
and an actually functional site and memorial second.
Non of these fit in the city at all, and especially the skyline.
The thing about the original WTC is that it was very big yes, but everything was connected with each other pretty nicely,
while here stuff feels like it's thrown all over the place without much thought.
Even though I don't like it as much as the original, I do like the current WTC overall and it was easily the best choice out of all these ridiciolous concepts.
Thanks for watching it! We get what you’re saying about some of the designs feeling a bit over-the-top or disconnected. They definitely had a tough job trying to honor the past while creating something new and bold. The final design of One World Trade Center ended up being a more functional and cohesive choice for the skyline.
@@MegaBuilds5280 david childs STOLE the 1wtc design from architecture student Jeehoon Park + was summarily sued - - he settled out of court to avoid further embarrassment (which he rightfully deserved); before that he stole the previous design from architecture student Thomas Shine - - and also settled that lawsuit out of court as well.
It was like they thought of those designs as sculptures
@@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7hu Fr
Like, what were United Architechts smoking when they designed their proposal.
It looks more like a giant alien than it does a building.
@@ZIOMEB256 more like something off transformers movies..
I think fosters design was the best one. The other ones look ridiculous
El de Foster de torres gemelas se veia mejor pero el estúpido de Larry silvestein desaprovechó proyectos espectaculares para la zona Cero
The music with speaking is too loud 😞
Thanks for wathging it and for the feedback!
Foster Associates' scheme would have been a real achievement, but it was blocked by the political machinations of New York real estate big shots out to maximize their own benefit financial benefit. The scheme offered up by Richard Meier, Steven Holl, and Peter Eisenman was not well developed or presented, but it had enormous potential. I think there is widespread agreement in the architectural community that David Child's unimaginative, banal design was not built because it was good but because Child's and SOM worked the levers of power and pandered to developers in New York real estate better than anyone else. The best you can say is that it could have very easily been much worse. The development of the site was well done overall; its not an embarrassment but it was no great achievement. The opportunity to do something great that the events of 9/11 seemed to call for was missed.
I don't normally agree with Trump, but the Twins needed rebuilding. Glass cladding like OWTC has now would've been perfect.
I love Foster + Partners 2WTC but I'll be amazed if that ever gets built.
Otherwise, some awful proposals here. Those submissions were mostly a joke, surely?
The only problem with rebuilding the twin towers exactly how they were, is just how eerie it would be, especially with the plane that hit and the people who jumped to their deaths :(
The underground ideas were great but the tower itself wasn’t the twin tower today is better
Larry silvestein se beneficio del 11 de septiembre el codicioso
2:25 This but Instead have the New Twins Farther diagonally from the pools Giving Respectable Space while opening up in the Center alas having a more Cohesive new Complex that honors Everyone
i really like the foster and partners however Donald Trump's proposal is just perfect
Se podía haber echo el de Foster thim pero el tonto de Larry silvestein desaprovechó proyectos espectaculares para la zona Cero me dio una rabia 🤬
I’d rather not
@@Hellmood_CZ Larry silvestein de las pelotas
Not proposed by him some other architect did it and he took credit for it
@@Curlywhrly yes, i know, but i like the general idea of that, not only Trump proposed this idea, but he was the one who was most interesting in the public to support this idea
I think they did the best they could. The tower is impressive, but not intrusive. The surrounding plaza is extremely handsome, and the grace of the transportation center is superb. The other towers are ordinary and without grace, but after Covid, all office space in Manhattan has become almost redundant. Overall, I think it's a success. Conservative, but successful.
I disagree as they couldn’t even make it a true 1776 ft in height and had to put a ridiculous large spire on top to make up the difference. The best NY and America could do would at least make the tallest building in the world in response. But really the NY cesspool of politics failed them as it took nearly a decade to even get the building built, when in comparison the Empire State Building took only 2 years nearly a Century ago. It just goes to show you how much red tape and corruption there is in real estate and building anything in NY anymore.
President Donald Trumps design would have been just perfect 👌
Si, pero el estúpido de Larry silvestein y el estúpido del alcalde de entonces lo desbarató el proyecto de Donald Trump
Me gustaba mas el diseño de diciembre de 2003
6:28 United Architects is best one. Mind you these are very basic 3D renders and would look different in real life, or even with a better render.
El estúpido de Larry silvestein desaprovechó proyectos espectaculares para la zona Cero como el que mencionas me dio una rabia 🤬
@@joseollero3788 alright thank you for spamming it a hundred times, got anything else?
I really like the one with the memorial & muesuem platforms on the skeleton structures, I think that would have someway brought them back but still ofcourse honoring the ones we lost that day. RIP. The new tower is nice but its just like any ordinary city skyline with one building. I'll visit it someday.
C'mon Dubai, how about appropriating some of these designs. You know you can do it!
Did anyone else see the Golden Gate Bridge when he said New York City?
Yeah was wondering why that was inserted in there. 🙃
Wow One horrible ugly design after another, they should just have let the place stand as is, a perfect monument to the government's incompetence that allowed this horror.
Even tho it's to late the failed legacy is still dead but the one that's advertising and show casing first should of been the one the one that looks like the twin towers with the twisted shape they messed up big time
THEY SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO OUR SOON TO BE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!
Kamala Harris wasn't involved in the discussions for the WTC designs 😊
Theres only one correct answer here:
The Twin towers (with obv more modern material/safeguards) should have been rebuilt with the exact same design as the first 2.
I always felt in changing the design, we gave up on them.
No statement would have been stronger then putting them both right back tf up (with the memorials included)
Like most Americans, you hate architecture and want buildings to be unchallenging to your sensibilities-or more or less just like what you see around you.
@ lol what
@@MT34829What I said. Take it at face value. I'm an architect, and among the things we note is that many clients and members of the public dismiss or express dislike of objectively better design proposals in favor of design schemes that are consistent with what they know. And what they know is McMansions and the dumbed-down architecture of real estate developers.
The final design was better all of theme where ugly
Should have built President Trump's design. This is carbon free urban planning with low cost infrastructure. These towers should be built by the thousands throughout the world. If built in Central America there would be no need for mass exodus of the population.
You have got to be kidding. Trump's proposal shows what many already knew about him: that he was a schlock real estate developer who was constantly trying to push himself into the spotlight. Where do you get "carbon-free planning and low-cost infrastructure and how do you build office towers in New York with thousands worldwide? How does that make sense? How would building these buildings in Central America end the mass exodus from those countries? Migrants from Central America aren't coming here in search of class-A office space. Get a grip on reality.
@@davidjgill4902 Thank you, I highly agree. I get some of Trump's sentiment regarding the towers, but it just wasn't feasible. Logistically it would have been a nightmare filling that office space back in. Also people should properly attribute the design of "Twin Towers 2" to the architect Herbert Belton and engineer Kenneth Gardner. Trump had little bearing on the WTC project apart from saying "hey I like the idea of rebuilding the originals but better" and (this is coming from someone who doesn't support him) doing a decent job of promoting it. It's among the few intentions of his where I actually saw him thinking a sentiment shared across a good number of people, yet I believe there would have been an outweighing opposition due to the painful memory of the original towers and that day of infamy.
Trump is like me that wanted to rebuild the buildings
What.ever