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The amount he had to look away from the road in the Tesla was terrifying! Not blaming the driver, blaming the user interface ( I hate touch screens in cars )
I hate Analog instruments in cars. I always have to decipher what they want to tell me. Why should i look at the center screen while driving? Only to look at the speedometer. Rarely.
Tesla technology for self driving is much better than the competition, it will stop or steer in a safe direction by itself if something happens in the few seconds looking at the screen. Keep in mind driving an ice car properly involves scanning three mirrors and 4 windows while driving
I'm pretty sure that if you are buying a second hand EV, your main priority is always going to be the battery life. Most 10 year old cars are still pretty solid. i.e. They were built pretty well in the beginning. After all, they were made in 2013'ish and all the shoddy stuff people were buying and selling in the 1980's and before, have now been turned into domestic appliances.
I agree, I look forward to an EV one day BUT I still want physical buttons for aircon and indicators and wipers etc. Like anything, you'd get used to your most commonly used functions very quickly, owners apparently say it's not a big deal, and you simply don't dig around for complex stuff while driving, but I think screen-only design is a massive step backwards.
I'm sure if you had an 8 year old petrol engine die on you you'd be straight round the main dealer for them to fit a brand new one. With an out of warranty EV you'd either have the faulty cells replaced or buy a refurbished battery for a fraction of the cost of a new battery. That been said most EV batteries will out live the car.
OK so the Leaf could do 84 miles on an ideal day. This one can only manage 50 miles using AC and to stop it becoming a driveway brick, you should only charge between 10 & 80%. Therefore if you owned one you'd actually be able to use 35 miles in the summer and likely nearer 20 in the dark winters. What a staggering way to waste money.
Battery charge amount grow exponentially over time there is no even loss over time. So when it say 4% loss over three years in 6 years could be as high as 12% or more. The loss over time is never even year to year. The batteries do however have a non showing charge amount on expensive batteries that are used to compensate the charge loss over time making it seem like the car is loosing less charge. Some thing like 10% of the overall charge is not accessible and this is used to reduce that loss over time.
10k for an 8year old ev seems a bit steep! You can get a 3year old IoniQ 38kwh for just over 13k has an 8 year battery warranty Upto 125000 miles so potentially 5year battery worry free 😂 real winter range of 155 miles
When was this filmed? In 2022, EV were in demand, my 64 reg Leaf Tekna (highest trim) was offered over £6000. In 2023, EV market had a correction. Same car is now £3500 on motorway. Surely that higher mileage lower trim Leaf is not worth £8000 in 2023! (For reference, my Leaf battery is now at 79% health, 9 years old)
After 8 years most EV batteries are out of warranty. How reliable are batteries over the long haul? Would you risk spending 10K on a new battery if one fails after 8 years? Not me.
I did watch the video but they did NOT talk about warranties. So my question stands - will you risk potentially spending 10K on a dead battery on a car that cost you 12K to buy with no warranty? @@spowagematthew
@@amerriaz batteries degrade at 2% a year is the answer given in the video to your "How reliable are batteries over the long haul?" question. I am sorry your rhetorical quibble about warranties was not addressed.
So you have a choice of spending >4k on a vehicle thats about as practical as a chocolate teapot (range of less than 70 miles and all the space of a shoe box) or 40k+ for a family sized vehicle with a half decent range. My wife and I both work full time and theres no way we could afford an EV thats practical enough for us and our kids. They are going to have to do a whole lot better if they want to convert the man on the street to EV by 2035.
I drove an eqc during the week and it was incredible, down to €57g from €91000 But I simply couldn’t buy it. My a6 has over 150k on the clock, 870km per fill in under 60 seconds. That can’t be beat
@@bruts82 please explain it again to me. I leave with full charge every morning. Long trips have never been an issue in my Model S drove 4k Miles the past month. Only stopping to charge when I needed. Can't stop the future. You can keep driving your vehicle no one forcing you to give it up.
It depends on government incentives. My $38,747 Model 3 RWD will get me around $8,500 from the US Government, state, and county. Hard to not go new when they are doing that.
I have actually owned all three of these cars. Currently havd the Tesla. Its grest car for ling trios very comfortable, fanstanic charging few buttons woukd be nice. The i3 is actaully one of my favourites have had owned 3 of them. The leaf just did not fit my lifestyle.
Every Nissan Leaf is sans thermal management even now in 2023. In Australia they are the laughing stock of EVS and anti EV people benchmark them as what happens to your EV. Tesla from China, BYD, base spec MG4 have LFP batteries which should do 800,000km or more and only degrade 10%. A shonky car company in Australia imports Japan's spoils (Leafs 5 years old and discarded by the Japanese), Australianises the cars to an extent then sells them for stupid like $30k price when for $10k more you are in a new BYD or MG4.
Subaru Outback is my current ideal family car, but it cost me $115 of my local dollars to fill my current car with 91RON this week, and I don't see prices going down in the future, only up. So being able to charge an EV from my solar panels and never visit another petrol station, and only pay for servicing every 2 years vs every 12 months is very enticing
And the cost to install a wall box home charger? Between £750-1000 and let’s not forget to add in all those coffees you’ll have to buy whilst hanging around for your EV to ‘fuel up’. All adds up EVangelists...
I haven't got a wall box charger, I charge using the 3 pin socket. I leave home with over 300 mile range every morning. No smelly, greasy diesel pumps to endure, no inclement weather to endure, car pre heated, including seats & steering wheel, or cooled to my desired temperature in the summer upon leaving home. I rarely charge away from home, only on long trips. Then no more than 20 mins, typically less than 10 mins, the time it takes to take a pee, then I'm on my way. I drove 3500 miles from Lancashire to marbella and back last year...no hassle at all, no range anxiety, no charging issues, no waiting to charge. Nor did I spew out any carcinogenic toxins throughout my journey for innocent bystanders to injest into their lungs either. No road tax, no ulez charges to pay, no servicing to pay for. In fact my maintenance cost for the whole of last year was £ 2.99....for screenwash.
@@David-bl1bt Yeah, and then you woke up and had your Rice Krispies. You must have a fantastical vehicle that can charge from a 3 pin socket overnight AND charge in ‘less than 10 mins’. Think it must all have been a dream.
@keithlivingstone2525 🤣😆 you must be on the wacky backee, or are lysdexic! Yes, I do charge overnight, I don't need a wall charger for my use case. I have been charging on a 3 pin plug for 4 years, no problem. And, no, i dont charge 10 mins and get 300 miles, only the ignorant would think that this is possible!....if you are able to fully concentrate on the content of my post above, you will glean that I charge typically for 10-20 mins when on a long road trip. That's all I need to do, there is no necessity to sit at a supercharger to charge to 100%, totally unnecessary. I top-up whilst I have a pee and then I'm on my way...without greasy, smelly diesel on my hands. I did a 3500 mile road trip to the costa del sol (southern Spain) and back last year using exactly this strategy I speak from Real world ownership experience, I guess that you are a non EV owner who clearly spouts nonsense because you know no different. If you don't want (or can't afford) an EV then buy something else, I couldn't care less either way. You do what suits you and what you can afford. Maybe educate yourself with some proper research next time you're eating your alphabetee spaghetti. to save any further embarrasing comments.😉
@@callumcurtis15 That is definitely how it works for me with my Tesla Model Y dual motor. I just tell it like it is. But hey. I'll bite. You tell us what you have and what you get for miles SOC 92% down to 26% at 85mph. I get 91 miles. What do you get?
@grabir01 🤔 well my tesla Model 3 has a 100% range of 340+ miles (real world, I have been compiling a spreadsheet since I took ownership) I leave home with over 300 mile range every morning. I rarely charge away from home, only on long trips. Then no more than 20 mins, typically less than 10 mins, the time it takes to take a pee, then I'm on my way. I drove 3500 miles from Lancashire to marbella and back last year...no hassle at all.
@@David-bl1bt I charged my new Model Y Dual motor for 1hour and 15 mins to get it to 92 %SOC. I dove it at 85mph down to 26%SOC in 91 miles. So there you go. Charge and hour to drive an hour. If I had charged it on the 220v grid, it would have been charge 6-8 hrs to drive an hour.
@@grabir01so that's a Long Range or Performance Model Y with a range of only 137 miles you have there. I'd be talking to Tesla if I were you. I did 150 miles at motorway speed in torrential rain yesterday using 52% of my battery. We have a Long Range Y. Based on that there is something wrong with yours.
Its not battery degradation you should worry about, its the failure of a single battery cell (of which there are more than 17,000 in a battery), which will render your ev junk. Yes the bad cell could be diagnosed and replaced but Tesla won't do it on an old model S, and I doubt there'll be much support for old models from other manufacturers.
I would never consider buying a vehicle that spews out carcinogenic toxins for unsuspecting bystanders to injest into their lungs. You buy what you are comfortable with.
Your idea of a high mileage car and mine are very different, high mileage for me start at a minimum of 150k personally I don’t class it as high mileage till it hits 165k
😂😅😂 don't hold your breath. She'll have shut down their hydrogen filling stations, Mercedes benz threw in the towel on hydrogen after spending €millions on research & development for over a decade. Fact checking before commenting would do wonders for your credibility!
@@David-bl1bt GM, Honda, BPS, Hyundai, Toyota and commercially MAN, JCB, Volvo, Ford, Sandvik....prototype Le Mans race cars...six other manufacturers with engines at the start of production stage, including Renault and Kia....but not Audi or Mercedes.
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The amount he had to look away from the road in the Tesla was terrifying! Not blaming the driver, blaming the user interface ( I hate touch screens in cars )
There is much easier way to do this from the steering wheel. I own model S took me bit to realise this. Few bottons would be nice !
I hate Analog instruments in cars. I always have to decipher what they want to tell me. Why should i look at the center screen while driving? Only to look at the speedometer. Rarely.
Tesla technology for self driving is much better than the competition, it will stop or steer in a safe direction by itself if something happens in the few seconds looking at the screen. Keep in mind driving an ice car properly involves scanning three mirrors and 4 windows while driving
I'm pretty sure that if you are buying a second hand EV, your main priority is always going to be the battery life.
Most 10 year old cars are still pretty solid. i.e. They were built pretty well in the beginning.
After all, they were made in 2013'ish and all the shoddy stuff people were buying and selling in the 1980's and before, have now been turned into domestic appliances.
Makes me laugh you get a fine for using your phone but these car have tablets in the dashes and that teslas looks so complex
I agree, I look forward to an EV one day BUT I still want physical buttons for aircon and indicators and wipers etc.
Like anything, you'd get used to your most commonly used functions very quickly, owners apparently say it's not a big deal, and you simply don't dig around for complex stuff while driving, but I think screen-only design is a massive step backwards.
all operations necessary when on-the-move can be controlled easily by voice command. No need to even remove your hands from the wheel.
I'm sure if you had an 8 year old petrol engine die on you you'd be straight round the main dealer for them to fit a brand new one. With an out of warranty EV you'd either have the faulty cells replaced or buy a refurbished battery for a fraction of the cost of a new battery. That been said most EV batteries will out live the car.
With over 10,000 cells in a battery, if you get 1 or 2 cells replaced there's still another 9,998 that could fail after they are replaced.
OK so the Leaf could do 84 miles on an ideal day. This one can only manage 50 miles using AC and to stop it becoming a driveway brick, you should only charge between 10 & 80%. Therefore if you owned one you'd actually be able to use 35 miles in the summer and likely nearer 20 in the dark winters. What a staggering way to waste money.
Yet still would do the large majority of drives which are surprisingly short.
Battery charge amount grow exponentially over time there is no even loss over time. So when it say 4% loss over three years in 6 years could be as high as 12% or more. The loss over time is never even year to year. The batteries do however have a non showing charge amount on expensive batteries that are used to compensate the charge loss over time making it seem like the car is loosing less charge. Some thing like 10% of the overall charge is not accessible and this is used to reduce that loss over time.
10k for an 8year old ev seems a bit steep! You can get a 3year old IoniQ 38kwh for just over 13k has an 8 year battery warranty Upto 125000 miles so potentially 5year battery worry free 😂 real winter range of 155 miles
When was this filmed?
In 2022, EV were in demand, my 64 reg Leaf Tekna (highest trim) was offered over £6000.
In 2023, EV market had a correction. Same car is now £3500 on motorway.
Surely that higher mileage lower trim Leaf is not worth £8000 in 2023!
(For reference, my Leaf battery is now at 79% health, 9 years old)
This was filmed in 2022
After 8 years most EV batteries are out of warranty. How reliable are batteries over the long haul? Would you risk spending 10K on a new battery if one fails after 8 years? Not me.
If you watch the video you'll find out.
I did watch the video but they did NOT talk about warranties. So my question stands - will you risk potentially spending 10K on a dead battery on a car that cost you 12K to buy with no warranty? @@spowagematthew
You wouldn't buy a new battery. You'd get the faulty cells replaced or buy a refurbished battery for a fraction of the price of a new one.
@@amerriaz batteries degrade at 2% a year is the answer given in the video to your "How reliable are batteries over the long haul?" question. I am sorry your rhetorical quibble about warranties was not addressed.
@@amerriazfortunately, no-ones ever had to rebuild an engine or gearbox in an ICE car.
Why do Chinese electric cars look so much like European cars? NIO ET9, HiPhiZ, Avatr12, XiaoMi Su7, BYD Yangwang U9
What a shame that Cadillac is not an English brand.
Mega Mile? i wouldn't buy any car with a million miles on the clock and in particular no ev
So you have a choice of spending >4k on a vehicle thats about as practical as a chocolate teapot (range of less than 70 miles and all the space of a shoe box) or 40k+ for a family sized vehicle with a half decent range. My wife and I both work full time and theres no way we could afford an EV thats practical enough for us and our kids. They are going to have to do a whole lot better if they want to convert the man on the street to EV by 2035.
Cool video.
I drove an eqc during the week and it was incredible, down to €57g from €91000
But I simply couldn’t buy it.
My a6 has over 150k on the clock, 870km per fill in under 60 seconds.
That can’t be beat
Do you do many 870Km drives in one go without a break. Must have some bladder on you 😁
@@AdrianMcDaid completely missing the point 😃
@@bruts82 please explain it again to me. I leave with full charge every morning. Long trips have never been an issue in my Model S drove 4k Miles the past month. Only stopping to charge when I needed. Can't stop the future. You can keep driving your vehicle no one forcing you to give it up.
@@AdrianMcDaid dear god
@@bruts82 your best reply then!
Some one told me that the running costs double in the winter 🥶 due to the cold 🥶.
Oh & too much annoying music throughout the video.
Finally some proper videos 😊😊😊, but 50K, blow me! 😅😅😅😅😅
2% per year and linear degradation - thats just not true. That would equate to a bettery life of 50 years. 😂
We want the content of what you actually get, if we are watching this we use our ac and dont drive slow either, make this the car show it can be😊
I wouldn’t even consider buying a new EV!
Or a used one.
It depends on government incentives. My $38,747 Model 3 RWD will get me around $8,500 from the US Government, state, and county.
Hard to not go new when they are doing that.
Yet you coming to comment on this video will help promote it to more viewers via algorithm engagement....
But here you are ..good to have choices.
Why tho? Except for the fact that they are "soulless" and can't drive from one end of a country to another ?
I have actually owned all three of these cars. Currently havd the Tesla. Its grest car for ling trios very comfortable, fanstanic charging few buttons woukd be nice. The i3 is actaully one of my favourites have had owned 3 of them.
The leaf just did not fit my lifestyle.
EVs are essentially batteries on wheels... I dont buy used batteries.
Every Nissan Leaf is sans thermal management even now in 2023. In Australia they are the laughing stock of EVS and anti EV people benchmark them as what happens to your EV.
Tesla from China, BYD, base spec MG4 have LFP batteries which should do 800,000km or more and only degrade 10%.
A shonky car company in Australia imports Japan's spoils (Leafs 5 years old and discarded by the Japanese), Australianises the cars to an extent then sells them for stupid like $30k price when for $10k more you are in a new BYD or MG4.
I'll buy a new wrx, thanks.
Subaru Outback is my current ideal family car, but it cost me $115 of my local dollars to fill my current car with 91RON this week, and I don't see prices going down in the future, only up. So being able to charge an EV from my solar panels and never visit another petrol station, and only pay for servicing every 2 years vs every 12 months is very enticing
And the cost to install a wall box home charger? Between £750-1000 and let’s not forget to add in all those coffees you’ll have to buy whilst hanging around for your EV to ‘fuel up’. All adds up EVangelists...
I haven't got a wall box charger, I charge using the 3 pin socket. I leave home with over 300 mile range every morning.
No smelly, greasy diesel pumps to endure, no inclement weather to endure, car pre heated, including seats & steering wheel, or cooled to my desired temperature in the summer upon leaving home.
I rarely charge away from home, only on long trips. Then no more than 20 mins, typically less than 10 mins, the time it takes to take a pee, then I'm on my way.
I drove 3500 miles from Lancashire to marbella and back last year...no hassle at all, no range anxiety, no charging issues, no waiting to charge. Nor did I spew out any carcinogenic toxins throughout my journey for innocent bystanders to injest into their lungs either.
No road tax, no ulez charges to pay, no servicing to pay for. In fact my maintenance cost for the whole of last year was £ 2.99....for screenwash.
@@David-bl1btthat screen wash is a killer!
@@ObiePaddles yes, I had to save up for a couple of weeks to afford it 😆
@@David-bl1bt Yeah, and then you woke up and had your Rice Krispies. You must have a fantastical vehicle that can charge from a 3 pin socket overnight AND charge in ‘less than 10 mins’. Think it must all have been a dream.
@keithlivingstone2525 🤣😆 you must be on the wacky backee, or are lysdexic!
Yes, I do charge overnight, I don't need a wall charger for my use case. I have been charging on a 3 pin plug for 4 years, no problem.
And, no, i dont charge 10 mins and get 300 miles, only the ignorant would think that this is possible!....if you are able to fully concentrate on the content of my post above, you will glean that I charge typically for 10-20 mins when on a long road trip. That's all I need to do, there is no necessity to sit at a supercharger to charge to 100%, totally unnecessary. I top-up whilst I have a pee and then I'm on my way...without greasy, smelly diesel on my hands. I did a 3500 mile road trip to the costa del sol (southern Spain) and back last year using exactly this strategy
I speak from Real world ownership experience, I guess that you are a non EV owner who clearly spouts nonsense because you know no different.
If you don't want (or can't afford) an EV then buy something else, I couldn't care less either way.
You do what suits you and what you can afford.
Maybe educate yourself with some proper research next time you're eating your alphabetee spaghetti. to save any further embarrasing comments.😉
new its charge an hour drive an hour. used it charge an hour drive 45mins.
That is definitely not how it works at all .
@@callumcurtis15 That is definitely how it works for me with my Tesla Model Y dual motor. I just tell it like it is. But hey. I'll bite. You tell us what you have and what you get for miles SOC 92% down to 26% at 85mph. I get 91 miles. What do you get?
@grabir01 🤔 well my tesla Model 3 has a 100% range of 340+ miles (real world, I have been compiling a spreadsheet since I took ownership)
I leave home with over 300 mile range every morning.
I rarely charge away from home, only on long trips. Then no more than 20 mins, typically less than 10 mins, the time it takes to take a pee, then I'm on my way.
I drove 3500 miles from Lancashire to marbella and back last year...no hassle at all.
@@David-bl1bt I charged my new Model Y Dual motor for 1hour and 15 mins to get it to 92 %SOC. I dove it at 85mph down to 26%SOC in 91 miles. So there you go. Charge and hour to drive an hour. If I had charged it on the 220v grid, it would have been charge 6-8 hrs to drive an hour.
@@grabir01so that's a Long Range or Performance Model Y with a range of only 137 miles you have there. I'd be talking to Tesla if I were you.
I did 150 miles at motorway speed in torrential rain yesterday using 52% of my battery. We have a Long Range Y.
Based on that there is something wrong with yours.
I never want to ever ever own an EV.
and here you are.
Its not battery degradation you should worry about, its the failure of a single battery cell (of which there are more than 17,000 in a battery), which will render your ev junk. Yes the bad cell could be diagnosed and replaced but Tesla won't do it on an old model S, and I doubt there'll be much support for old models from other manufacturers.
No
Never consider buying any EV!!!!
I would never consider buying a vehicle that spews out carcinogenic toxins for unsuspecting bystanders to injest into their lungs.
You buy what you are comfortable with.
Your idea of a high mileage car and mine are very different, high mileage for me start at a minimum of 150k personally I don’t class it as high mileage till it hits 165k
4th EV episode........yawn.
Save your money, wait for hydrogen to filter through.
😂😅😂 don't hold your breath. She'll have shut down their hydrogen filling stations, Mercedes benz threw in the towel on hydrogen after spending €millions on research & development for over a decade.
Fact checking before commenting would do wonders for your credibility!
@@David-bl1bt GM, Honda, BPS, Hyundai, Toyota and commercially MAN, JCB, Volvo, Ford, Sandvik....prototype Le Mans race cars...six other manufacturers with engines at the start of production stage, including Renault and Kia....but not Audi or Mercedes.
Nooo. Internal combustion will be available till 2035 now.....probably even longer 😂😂😂😂🖕