Bagging competitors when you only been in the game a few years is a bit rich. When was the last time anyone saw a White Pointer , AMF, or pretty much any NZ alloy boat fall to bits out at sea.They are all good, yes some better than others... But at that end of the market people who are about to drop 400k on a rig do there homework. 8mm hull is nothing groundbreaking.
@@JunixKuizon I was thinking the same. I think it’s insecurity. Rex Briant from White Pointer comes across the complete opposite, after watching all the reviews from Rex I’m adamant that’s the kind of person I want to pay my money to.
By far the nicest looking aluminum boats i have ever seen. Would love to run one on the great lakes in Michigan. Salmon/walleye fishing or an overnighter. My dream boat. Nice job mate. You should let me run one on the great lakes. After people see it, they will want to run it as a charter boat. No doubt.
Cocky boat builder , but I like him you need to be cocky when your building internal structure stands out from the rest 8 mm hull, the internal structure taken well overboard ,stringers running through the hull are the biggest and thickest going around love it… “ Bloody kiwis “brilliant boat builders ,brilliant hull ,brilliant boats 👏 Aussies keep drinking your beer 🍺 and catch up alittle 😅
Its hard to sit through listening to someone just gas-bagging their 'unnamed' competitor.. Painful, you just come across as a bit of a flog. Here's an idea, just talk about your own product, it will speak for itself. Anyone in this end of the market is going to do their homework.
He’s got a point though. Technically ‘plate boats’ aren’t actually plate boats unless their hulls are 6mm or thicker. Plus the vast majority of mass producers out there, yes they make lovely boats and you almost never hear of one breaking, but the actual structure in them is super super minimal. Most ‘plate boats’ on the market shouldn’t actually be called plate boats cause they’re only 4 or 5mm hulls. Most recreational boats are designed to marine order 503 or exemption 40… which in the scheme of Naval Architecture is the equivalent of ‘does it float? Yep? Cool it’s good to go’
He didn't bag anyone. Just explained that his boats are built better and stronger. Best way to find out is to test drive. The proof is always in the pudding so to speak.
Lloyd's Register is a global professional services company specialising in engineering and technology for the maritime industry. Its stated aims are to enhance the safety of life, property, and the environment, by helping its clients (including by validation, certification, and accreditation) to improve the safety and performance of complex projects, supply chains and critical infrastructure.
Lloyds is a class society. There’s heaps of them that specialise in various structures (NSCV, HSC, IMO, DNV, BV etc.). If you design a boat to the specifications of a class society, your designs get checked and certified, stamped with approval marks, and the vessel can have a classification certificate issued. This means the vessel is certified compliant for the operational profile it was designed to (in this case he says that’s 30 knots in 1m seas) and can be insured. Recreational boats don’t need to meet class society rules like Lloyds SSC, because they’re not commercially used. You’d be amazed how minimal structure you can get away with selling recreational boats. What he’s designed in this video could be put in to survey and commercial work without any structural work re-done.
Things like commercial fishing boats, ferries, luxury super yatchs etc all get designed to class rules. There’s generally a maximum length before you’re required to design to class, and then length markers, service type and operational area above that point that dictate if you need to step up rule sets to more stringent rules/higher design pressures. If you’ve ever heard of small charter boats being in ‘2C survey’, in Australia that means they’d be designed and built to NSCV (National Standard for Commercial Vessels) 2C design rules, 2 being the service type (non passenger vessel) and C being the operational area (restricted offshore operations within 30 nautical miles of Australian mainland and tasmania). Something like 1B would be service type 1 (passenger vessel) in operational area B (within 200 nautical miles of Australian mainland or Tasmania
Just don't know that the average fisho needs something so engineered? Maybe it's cause I haven't been in the boat froth game for very long but all the additional engineering- thicker plate, more stringers etc just seems to be adding weight and cost. Hull geometries are obvs important but I've never heard of people having issues with their boats cause they rock 5-6mm plate instead of 8mm.
Cocky but great boats so maybe he has something to brag about. ‘Makaira’ is originally from Greek not Latin by the way, means sword or knife. It’s where the later Latin term and the current scientific term for marlin comes from. I know this because this is what I wanted to call my boat before I realised it was the name of a brand 🤣
Sweet rigs. Would love to see the captain check out Machina boats out of Hawkes Bay. Impressive boats.
Bagging competitors when you only been in the game a few years is a bit rich.
When was the last time anyone saw a White Pointer , AMF, or pretty much any NZ alloy boat fall to bits out at sea.They are all good, yes some better than others... But at that end of the market people who are about to drop 400k on a rig do there homework. 8mm hull is nothing groundbreaking.
The owner used too build super yachts, so he's got the experience
I agree! Seems like he lacks confidence.
@@JunixKuizon I was thinking the same. I think it’s insecurity. Rex Briant from White Pointer comes across the complete opposite, after watching all the reviews from Rex I’m adamant that’s the kind of person I want to pay my money to.
The man is answering the questions. The buyers deserve to have the facts to make an informed decision
By far the nicest looking aluminum boats i have ever seen. Would love to run one on the great lakes in Michigan. Salmon/walleye fishing or an overnighter. My dream boat. Nice job mate. You should let me run one on the great lakes. After people see it, they will want to run it as a charter boat. No doubt.
I hope you guys visited Herley and there's a video on the way of their beauties 🤞
Probably shouldn’t ask but how much for the smallest boat ?
Cocky boat builder , but I like him you need to be cocky when your building internal structure stands out from the rest 8 mm hull, the internal structure taken well overboard ,stringers running through the hull are the biggest and thickest going around love it… “ Bloody kiwis “brilliant boat builders ,brilliant hull ,brilliant boats 👏
Aussies keep drinking your beer 🍺 and catch up alittle 😅
Wicked boats
Must be talking down on Extreme boats, they ride so badly for the $$
beautiful
Great vid
Damn that’s a nice boat!
Its hard to sit through listening to someone just gas-bagging their 'unnamed' competitor.. Painful, you just come across as a bit of a flog.
Here's an idea, just talk about your own product, it will speak for itself. Anyone in this end of the market is going to do their homework.
He’s got a point though. Technically ‘plate boats’ aren’t actually plate boats unless their hulls are 6mm or thicker. Plus the vast majority of mass producers out there, yes they make lovely boats and you almost never hear of one breaking, but the actual structure in them is super super minimal. Most ‘plate boats’ on the market shouldn’t actually be called plate boats cause they’re only 4 or 5mm hulls. Most recreational boats are designed to marine order 503 or exemption 40… which in the scheme of Naval Architecture is the equivalent of ‘does it float? Yep? Cool it’s good to go’
Just WOW. I am off to buy a Lotto ticket. What makes Kiwis such good welders?
Its always raining, nothing else to do...
And smoking weed
late reply but theres a lot of ocean and its hard to import stuff so everyone tries to make their own. hence the number of different manufacturers
He didn't bag anyone. Just explained that his boats are built better and stronger. Best way to find out is to test drive. The proof is always in the pudding so to speak.
Talk about battle trucks.
Wonder what his 570 looks like.
Incredible
What does he mean when he talks about Lloyds??
Lloyd's Register is a global professional services company specialising in engineering and technology for the maritime industry.
Its stated aims are to enhance the safety of life, property, and the environment, by helping its clients (including by validation, certification, and accreditation) to improve the safety and performance of complex projects, supply chains and critical infrastructure.
Lloyds is a class society. There’s heaps of them that specialise in various structures (NSCV, HSC, IMO, DNV, BV etc.). If you design a boat to the specifications of a class society, your designs get checked and certified, stamped with approval marks, and the vessel can have a classification certificate issued. This means the vessel is certified compliant for the operational profile it was designed to (in this case he says that’s 30 knots in 1m seas) and can be insured. Recreational boats don’t need to meet class society rules like Lloyds SSC, because they’re not commercially used. You’d be amazed how minimal structure you can get away with selling recreational boats. What he’s designed in this video could be put in to survey and commercial work without any structural work re-done.
Things like commercial fishing boats, ferries, luxury super yatchs etc all get designed to class rules. There’s generally a maximum length before you’re required to design to class, and then length markers, service type and operational area above that point that dictate if you need to step up rule sets to more stringent rules/higher design pressures. If you’ve ever heard of small charter boats being in ‘2C survey’, in Australia that means they’d be designed and built to NSCV (National Standard for Commercial Vessels) 2C design rules, 2 being the service type (non passenger vessel) and C being the operational area (restricted offshore operations within 30 nautical miles of Australian mainland and tasmania). Something like 1B would be service type 1 (passenger vessel) in operational area B (within 200 nautical miles of Australian mainland or Tasmania
Big call mate!! Think u better check your stats.
One powerball .... :)
Who’s building a 8m plate boat with only 2 stringers
Hahahaahaa yeh
By next year there will be knock offs produced in Australia by that sly boat builder in NSW
cool
Just don't know that the average fisho needs something so engineered? Maybe it's cause I haven't been in the boat froth game for very long but all the additional engineering- thicker plate, more stringers etc just seems to be adding weight and cost. Hull geometries are obvs important but I've never heard of people having issues with their boats cause they rock 5-6mm plate instead of 8mm.
yea for sure but there's also a market for it so people will build them.
Cocky but great boats so maybe he has something to brag about. ‘Makaira’ is originally from Greek not Latin by the way, means sword or knife. It’s where the later Latin term and the current scientific term for marlin comes from. I know this because this is what I wanted to call my boat before I realised it was the name of a brand 🤣
Dickie boats compare
that's the thing, there's multiple that do. that was rather arrogant of him
Don’t forget White Pointer NZ.
You get what you pay for Meaning a lot of people
If he truly believes in the product he is selling, he should just focus on selling his products, not on bagging the competitors. 😂
@stevebryan