Folks make sure you read the label! Nufarm video says one thing for the rate and reapplication and the label says something totally different! This is for fescue!
0.01 Oz per gallon. Is what I’m starting with…. Go with the SLOW program first. If you go with the fast program it will brown it all out quickly and will look crappy. You want to slowly kill it and have your desirable turf pop and take over while it’s fading out!
Hello and greetings from Nufarm. While the label is always the law, there are aspects of the label that are absolute and then there are aspects that are essentially recommendations. DO NOT is an absolute. The recommendations in the label are because these recommendations were from the original, old label from years ago before we removed the product from the market. The new information we have published on information sheets all still fits within the label, but based upon several years of research there are better programs to use that will give you better results. If you want to get the most out of this product and remove poa triv in a residential lawn, we recommend following our up-to-date recommendations. That being said - this is a highly technical product that can be used in many different ways. The older recommendations will still work. A lot of it comes down to timing, latitude, rate, temperature, etc. Our research shows that as an LCO who cannot be at a property every week or two or three all season long that you will get the best results at 2.25 oz per acre applied two times. If you are a homeowner doing a program with this product, then using a lower rate applied multiple times can make a lot of sense. A golf course is going to be a completely different program as they are there every day and usually have a lot of poa that can't all disappear all at once......
@rodmarquardt5099 I completely respect this! I still feel like the label should read what you’re saying though. I’ve used your products professionally and as a homeowner it’s just confusing when you crack the label open and it says one thing vs another that’s been posted on a video and a brochure. Either way it’s not a knock to you folks or the product but it is confusing on the recommended rates when most folks read the label on the bottle. Hopefully this can get fixed to match up the label and the brochure.
@@Primetime_Fescue No disagreement here. Unfortunately, it's not an easy thing to change recommendations on a label. Sometimes it's necessary to work within what we have and deal with a little confusion........ As an addition to your video, this is an SC product that if it sits for a while can separate and become like glue. If that happens some vigorous shaking of the bottle prior to measuring and mixing will usually be sufficient.....
@@rodmarquardt5099 just want to make sure I am reading the slow program rates correctly. On the brochure it mentioned 0.38oz per acre is 0.25 ML per gallon which is converted to 0.008oz per gallon for the slow rate (3-4 apps every 21 days or so). This will allow the desirable turf to fill in better without leaving too many brown or bare spots since it is a slower pace control. Are these rates correct and is it really 0.008 Oz per gallon? TY
Can't wait to see if it works.. Seen you the other day buying that ventrac. Was star struck didn't know what too say. Not every day you run into the man, the myth, the legend of fescue! .
Here is a great tip and this is what I did before starting the Velocity applications. Put down a blanket spray of Tenacity and after a week, it bleaches and lights up every evil strand of Poa Triv while also injuring it somewhat. Now you know exactly where all the Triv is because its highlighted throughout the yard and makes Velocity super easy to apply.
Just spent all weekend spraying and digging this crap outta my fescue, always surprised with what stays hidden creeping along outside where u see it. Been using a thatch rake to help find the runners
My back yard is full of poa annua. It drives me crazy . Brought in some dirt from local landscaping company one year and bang ❗️ the next spring it was full of it
I hope this works for your Mom's lawn. I would like to try it on mine, as I have a few patches of Poa Trivialis, but my lawn is a mix of ryegrass, tall fescue, and KBG. For now, I'll try the rubber and cotton glove method with glyphosate for spot treatment.
Really eager to see if this works Todd, It's all sold out as far as I can tell online right now but I'm desperate enough to pick some up. 😂I had knocked out what I thought was all of the bit of triv in my yard last fall - fast forward to spring and its multiplied 10 fold. Absolutely killing right now in NJ.
Make sure you read the label! The product video rate and reapplication timing is completely different on the label for fescue. I made the mistake of saying every 14 days and label says every 21! I was going by what the Nufarm guy said in his video
Great video Brad.. can't wait to see results...I live in NJ and currently in April my poa T looks different then this, it's more stem and stalk with a bit of reddish color in the stalk... starting to flatten out a bit...is this just possibly a different phase of growth?
Great video. You cracking the code on this ! Thank you I am looking forward to the results. What tip do you recommend using the flow zone. Please link it. TIA.
What’s crazy is the label rate for fescue is totally different than what the Nufarm rep said in a video! I may have applied it incorrectly but not according the the actual product label! Guess will find out lol!
Another great video Brad, thanks for the content! So, I applied propiconazole last Saturday evening. Mixed the curative rate of 2oz per gallon and sprayed on the lawn with my flowzone backpack sprayer. I believe what I have going on right now is some rust/leafspot/melting out. Maybe one or two of those all are of em. Not an expert, but through my research I'm pretty sure that's what I have. So I let it sit on the blades for about an hr, then watered in lightly, about 12 mins a zone on my irrigation system. We'll some spot look a little better but there seems to be more popping up everywhere else. Did I do something wrong or do I need to do anything different? I know it takes time to get better but I was surprised to see new areas popping up in a lot of spots. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Don’t use Propiconazole for leaf spot it’s not very good at all and it needs to sit in the leaf and dry being that’s a foliar disease so you basically waisted that app. Azoxystrobin is what you need to apply.
@Primetime_Fescue oh great! Well I have azoxystrobin and I also bought that TM 4.5 you told me about. So should i apply azoxy now or wait another week? Hope I'm not bothering you too much.
Wicked nice of him. I’m familiar with that product works great. What golf courses did you manage? Ive been lucky enough to work for Paul latshaw jr and bunch of great turf leaders. Brad Owen at Augusta one of the best also
I was at cedar rock country club and Lenoir golf club from 1999 to 2006. One was private at the time one was semi private both are in pretty rough shape now mainly due to funds and the economy.
Unfortunately I think they need to figure out what rate they want to actually apply it at lol. The rate on the label is totally different than what the video says when they were doing an introduction on it.
@@Primetime_Fescue when I watched the video from Velocity PM, the gentleman said 2.25 fluid oz per acre. Either way, 2 apps with possibly a third but either way, it’s still early to tell how well it works but I’m sure we are ALL patiently waiting to see someone with 30 day results. That’s what I’m waiting on because I’ve got a bunch that I’d like to take care of.
@tonybilderback8732 yea I absolutely seen the video I just want to know what’s correct lol. Normally anyone applying pesticide goes by the label because the label is the law
@@Primetime_Fescue yup, exactly. That’s why I was waiting to hear from others who have applied it and hear their opinions on it. I think we all are hoping this works even though it might be expensive.
Sorry for chiming in late, but I have a question on slow vs rapid program. As I read it, it seems the purpose of a slower program would be to avoid visible dead patches and "allow the good turf to take back over". But, cool season grasses are not rhizomatic or stolen grasses. There wouldn't be any "taking back over" the area unless new seed is sown, no? So why go slowly? Wouldn't just killing the Triv in time for fall overseed make the most sense?
Per the label I done the rapid response there brochure is even a higher rate! I will be doing a video on this hopefully Saturday and have it uploaded for early next week on my opinion on this stuff
@@Primetime_Fescue Thanks for the reply, and I am following your series on this. I just wonder what people think on why bother with slow if the good turf isn't going to come magically fill in where the dead Triv is. In other words, I am contemplating what any advantage is if spot spraying over just glypo the spots. same results. If blanket spraying, sure, you get to keep the unaffected grass. But spot spraying with Velocity and ending up with dead spots that need to be reseeded verses glypho and ending up with dead spots that need to be reseeded ... seems not worth it, no?
@@brianconner1389 my thoughts on this is why even use it if you have large patches! Glyphosate will do the exact same thing because if you have large patches it’s gonna be dirt or really bare either way at the end of the day.
The online brochure for cool season grass says 0.25 ML per gallon for the slow program which is 0.0080oz per gallon (0.01oz rounded up). You should probably go with this rate to start
That isn’t what the label says. Most folks in this profession go by the label! The label reads for rapid response for tall fescue and rye .75 to 1.1oz per acer which is 0.017 or 0.025oz per 1000 sqft which is 0.50 to 0.739ml per 1000 sqft. If they can’t match up the brochure with the label then this is an issue for me and any other person who follows the label which the label is the law!!
@@Primetime_Fescue absolutely agree. Yes you are correct about those rates for rapid treatment for patches. But to me it’s also confusing. They say to use 0.01 Oz per gallon for the slow treatment (I did the math on their 0.38oz per acre and rounded up some) for using tow behind tank sprayers for a broad application but want you to use what you had just mentioned for smaller patches. Why not just have it consistent? This will confuse people for sure.
Probably because it was overly wet! I also wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t in the seed honestly! They don’t test very much at all to get blue tagged seed it’s a minute amount
This s why monostands are a pain. Get one weedy grass and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Plus one disease can wipe out your whole lawn if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Label don’t say that lol. Nufarm in video says 2.25oz per acre and reapplication in 14 days for fescue! Label says for fescue 1.1oz per acre and 21 days on reapplication 🤷♂️
@flyfishsteve5 I heard it also but label makes no mention of it lol. Not on the rapid conversion under fescue lol. I done the label rate 1.1oz per acre but I screwed up and said 14 days in the reapplication because of the video and label says 21 days! So you tell me what do you go by🤣🤣
$532 a bottle... That's what you said? What is in there, magic fluid... Who wants to split a bottle, two, or 10 ways? Lets see what happens, but its thick in my yard this year!
Looking forward to the upcoming videos n applications see if this really works it it does m going half with my buddy we both waiting for these results $260 each out the 🚪 8oz a piece🍺🔬🫡
Folks make sure you read the label! Nufarm video says one thing for the rate and reapplication and the label says something totally different! This is for fescue!
0.01 Oz per gallon. Is what I’m starting with…. Go with the SLOW program first. If you go with the fast program it will brown it all out quickly and will look crappy. You want to slowly kill it and have your desirable turf pop and take over while it’s fading out!
Hello and greetings from Nufarm. While the label is always the law, there are aspects of the label that are absolute and then there are aspects that are essentially recommendations. DO NOT is an absolute. The recommendations in the label are because these recommendations were from the original, old label from years ago before we removed the product from the market. The new information we have published on information sheets all still fits within the label, but based upon several years of research there are better programs to use that will give you better results. If you want to get the most out of this product and remove poa triv in a residential lawn, we recommend following our up-to-date recommendations. That being said - this is a highly technical product that can be used in many different ways. The older recommendations will still work. A lot of it comes down to timing, latitude, rate, temperature, etc. Our research shows that as an LCO who cannot be at a property every week or two or three all season long that you will get the best results at 2.25 oz per acre applied two times. If you are a homeowner doing a program with this product, then using a lower rate applied multiple times can make a lot of sense. A golf course is going to be a completely different program as they are there every day and usually have a lot of poa that can't all disappear all at once......
@rodmarquardt5099 I completely respect this! I still feel like the label should read what you’re saying though. I’ve used your products professionally and as a homeowner it’s just confusing when you crack the label open and it says one thing vs another that’s been posted on a video and a brochure. Either way it’s not a knock to you folks or the product but it is confusing on the recommended rates when most folks read the label on the bottle. Hopefully this can get fixed to match up the label and the brochure.
@@Primetime_Fescue No disagreement here. Unfortunately, it's not an easy thing to change recommendations on a label. Sometimes it's necessary to work within what we have and deal with a little confusion........ As an addition to your video, this is an SC product that if it sits for a while can separate and become like glue. If that happens some vigorous shaking of the bottle prior to measuring and mixing will usually be sufficient.....
@@rodmarquardt5099 just want to make sure I am reading the slow program rates correctly. On the brochure it mentioned 0.38oz per acre is 0.25 ML per gallon which is converted to 0.008oz per gallon for the slow rate (3-4 apps every 21 days or so). This will allow the desirable turf to fill in better without leaving too many brown or bare spots since it is a slower pace control. Are these rates correct and is it really 0.008 Oz per gallon? TY
Can't wait to see if it works.. Seen you the other day buying that ventrac. Was star struck didn't know what too say. Not every day you run into the man, the myth, the legend of fescue!
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🤣🤣🤣 whatever Sucka
Great video! Very interested to see what happens!
Here is a great tip and this is what I did before starting the Velocity applications. Put down a blanket spray of Tenacity and after a week, it bleaches and lights up every evil strand of Poa Triv while also injuring it somewhat. Now you know exactly where all the Triv is because its highlighted throughout the yard and makes Velocity super easy to apply.
Man gonna break the internet with this video.
Pshhhh 🤣🤣
Just spent all weekend spraying and digging this crap outta my fescue, always surprised with what stays hidden creeping along outside where u see it. Been using a thatch rake to help find the runners
My back yard is full of poa annua. It drives me crazy . Brought in some dirt from local landscaping company one year and bang ❗️ the next spring it was full of it
Thanks Todd!!!
Thank you.
Thanks Todd!
Thank you
Great video. I’m about to do the same thing.
I hope this works for your Mom's lawn. I would like to try it on mine, as I have a few patches of Poa Trivialis, but my lawn is a mix of ryegrass, tall fescue, and KBG. For now, I'll try the rubber and cotton glove method with glyphosate for spot treatment.
Really eager to see if this works Todd, It's all sold out as far as I can tell online right now but I'm desperate enough to pick some up. 😂I had knocked out what I thought was all of the bit of triv in my yard last fall - fast forward to spring and its multiplied 10 fold. Absolutely killing right now in NJ.
Make sure you read the label! The product video rate and reapplication timing is completely different on the label for fescue. I made the mistake of saying every 14 days and label says every 21! I was going by what the Nufarm guy said in his video
I’m In north Jersey and running into the same issue
Great video Brad.. can't wait to see results...I live in NJ and currently in April my poa T looks different then this, it's more stem and stalk with a bit of reddish color in the stalk... starting to flatten out a bit...is this just possibly a different phase of growth?
This has some of that reddish pink stalk also just could see it in the video. I’m probably a good month ahead of you also being I’m in NC
Great video. You cracking the code on this ! Thank you I am looking forward to the results. What tip do you recommend using the flow zone. Please link it. TIA.
What’s crazy is the label rate for fescue is totally different than what the Nufarm rep said in a video! I may have applied it incorrectly but not according the the actual product label! Guess will find out lol!
Another great video Brad, thanks for the content! So, I applied propiconazole last Saturday evening. Mixed the curative rate of 2oz per gallon and sprayed on the lawn with my flowzone backpack sprayer. I believe what I have going on right now is some rust/leafspot/melting out. Maybe one or two of those all are of em. Not an expert, but through my research I'm pretty sure that's what I have. So I let it sit on the blades for about an hr, then watered in lightly, about 12 mins a zone on my irrigation system. We'll some spot look a little better but there seems to be more popping up everywhere else. Did I do something wrong or do I need to do anything different? I know it takes time to get better but I was surprised to see new areas popping up in a lot of spots. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Don’t use Propiconazole for leaf spot it’s not very good at all and it needs to sit in the leaf and dry being that’s a foliar disease so you basically waisted that app. Azoxystrobin is what you need to apply.
@Primetime_Fescue oh great! Well I have azoxystrobin and I also bought that TM 4.5 you told me about. So should i apply azoxy now or wait another week? Hope I'm not bothering you too much.
@Sir_Mack I would go ahead and do the azoxy the prop is pretty sorry as I mentioned for leaf spot
Wicked nice of him. I’m familiar with that product works great. What golf courses did you manage? Ive been lucky enough to work for Paul latshaw jr and bunch of great turf leaders. Brad Owen at Augusta one of the best also
I was at cedar rock country club and Lenoir golf club from 1999 to 2006. One was private at the time one was semi private both are in pretty rough shape now mainly due to funds and the economy.
I really hope this stuff works so I’m anxious to see the results. If it does I have a lot in my yard that needs addressed.
Unfortunately I think they need to figure out what rate they want to actually apply it at lol. The rate on the label is totally different than what the video says when they were doing an introduction on it.
@@Primetime_Fescue when I watched the video from Velocity PM, the gentleman said 2.25 fluid oz per acre. Either way, 2 apps with possibly a third but either way, it’s still early to tell how well it works but I’m sure we are ALL patiently waiting to see someone with 30 day results. That’s what I’m waiting on because I’ve got a bunch that I’d like to take care of.
@tonybilderback8732 yea I absolutely seen the video I just want to know what’s correct lol. Normally anyone applying pesticide goes by the label because the label is the law
@@Primetime_Fescue yup, exactly. That’s why I was waiting to hear from others who have applied it and hear their opinions on it. I think we all are hoping this works even though it might be expensive.
Sorry for chiming in late, but I have a question on slow vs rapid program.
As I read it, it seems the purpose of a slower program would be to avoid visible dead patches and "allow the good turf to take back over". But, cool season grasses are not rhizomatic or stolen grasses. There wouldn't be any "taking back over" the area unless new seed is sown, no? So why go slowly? Wouldn't just killing the Triv in time for fall overseed make the most sense?
Per the label I done the rapid response there brochure is even a higher rate! I will be doing a video on this hopefully Saturday and have it uploaded for early next week on my opinion on this stuff
@@Primetime_Fescue Thanks for the reply, and I am following your series on this. I just wonder what people think on why bother with slow if the good turf isn't going to come magically fill in where the dead Triv is. In other words, I am contemplating what any advantage is if spot spraying over just glypo the spots. same results.
If blanket spraying, sure, you get to keep the unaffected grass. But spot spraying with Velocity and ending up with dead spots that need to be reseeded verses glypho and ending up with dead spots that need to be reseeded ... seems not worth it, no?
@@brianconner1389 my thoughts on this is why even use it if you have large patches! Glyphosate will do the exact same thing because if you have large patches it’s gonna be dirt or really bare either way at the end of the day.
@@Primetime_Fescue exactly. thank you.
The online brochure for cool season grass says 0.25 ML per gallon for the slow program which is 0.0080oz per gallon (0.01oz rounded up). You should probably go with this rate to start
That isn’t what the label says. Most folks in this profession go by the label! The label reads for rapid response for tall fescue and rye .75 to 1.1oz per acer which is 0.017 or 0.025oz per 1000 sqft which is 0.50 to 0.739ml per 1000 sqft. If they can’t match up the brochure with the label then this is an issue for me and any other person who follows the label which the label is the law!!
@@Primetime_Fescue absolutely agree. Yes you are correct about those rates for rapid treatment for patches. But to me it’s also confusing. They say to use 0.01 Oz per gallon for the slow treatment (I did the math on their 0.38oz per acre and rounded up some) for using tow behind tank sprayers for a broad application but want you to use what you had just mentioned for smaller patches. Why not just have it consistent? This will confuse people for sure.
I'm trying to find some velocity...please if possible to send a link
It’s sold out everywhere unfortunately
What if I only have a ortho dial-n-spray? Can’t I just use that?
🤣🤣🤦♂️
I feel like the poa triv was real bad for everyone this year. I don't know why but it spread everywhere in my lawn his year also
Probably because it was overly wet! I also wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t in the seed honestly! They don’t test very much at all to get blue tagged seed it’s a minute amount
Will this be good to use on KBG Lawns also.
I personally don’t think so I didn’t see it in the label and kbg is a poa unfortunately
Only on some KBG cultivars. Nufarm states they have a list of the tested cultivars that are safe, but I cannot find it.
This s why monostands are a pain. Get one weedy grass and it sticks out like a sore thumb. Plus one disease can wipe out your whole lawn if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Nufarm says 1.5 ml per gallon for spot spraying along with 3 grams of Anuew
Label don’t say that lol. Nufarm in video says 2.25oz per acre and reapplication in 14 days for fescue! Label says for fescue 1.1oz per acre and 21 days on reapplication 🤷♂️
Yes Nufarm says that
@flyfishsteve5 I heard it also but label makes no mention of it lol. Not on the rapid conversion under fescue lol. I done the label rate 1.1oz per acre but I screwed up and said 14 days in the reapplication because of the video and label says 21 days! So you tell me what do you go by🤣🤣
So is it safe on kbg also ??
Some varieties they say I’m not sure which ones so I can’t tell you that unfortunately
I heard this stuff is $$$$ though, like $500 a bottle??
$535 lol. If it works it could be worth if you have a lot of poa if not glyphosate it’s is!
They really need to sell this in small bottles. Very costly for average homeowners that only have 1-2k sqft of yard.
I agree
@@Primetime_Fescue just saw todays update! Please keep us posted!!
If someone can figure out how to repackage Velocity PM in smaller doses for 1,000 square feet, they would almost be able to print their own money.
$532 a bottle... That's what you said? What is in there, magic fluid...
Who wants to split a bottle, two, or 10 ways?
Lets see what happens, but its thick in my yard this year!
Yup $532 to $535 a bottle lol
I'm looking, out of stock.
Yep it’s hot right now lol
BLUE MAGIC 🪄🤣
Fingers crossed
Looking forward to the upcoming videos n applications see if this really works it it does m going half with my buddy we both waiting for these results $260 each out the 🚪 8oz a piece🍺🔬🫡
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