“There is a difference between us. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us. You blinked.” - Batman to Owlman from crisis on two earths.
Harley was quite literally told by amanda waller (after Waller's system had been hacked to find the data) that both her and Deadshot had long ago worked off their prison sentences via the countless missions task force X had been on. Alongside the actual time spent in prison. And then served EXTRA time as waller had never told them and continued to keep them on a leash thinking they were still working it off and not yet reached said cut off point.
@@Jelly_Skelly yep and by extent Rob on "she never served a sentence" IF anything it also just shows that while ZUr En AR might have some solid points, hes not fully correct in everything. I'd also argue that in harley's case that her helping the batfamily all the time and being a semi hero should also be accounted for in terms of her past misdeeds. Its not like she did something bad and then fucked off the the woods to hide it out. She's been trying to correct her past mistakes as best she can for a while
@@MobiusMundUr Which is incidentally possibly the last time he really stood up for himself. Actually, he might have a little PTSD from all that which is why he's reluctant to stand up for himself again...
@@sinteleon In continuity, he has Zero memory of Mephisto erasing his marriage. It's purely the writers not understanding how Peter is meant to be written
I'm more of a Marvelhile and I'll allow this. Seriously, that also was an amazing story. So if you're going to be "Inspired" by something why not make it awesome?
Been saying this for months, it’s a Superior Spider-Man/Council of Reeds story (given what’s about to happen with Absolute Power which cares over from this). And yet weirdly enough Wells is now doing a similar thing with Spider-Man first having Normans “sins” making him crazy/evil and now a few months later having what seems to be Norman’s mind doing the same thing
Rob... your willingness to educate, entertain and sheer enthusiasm for this media is what keeps me looking forward to your next episode! You're masterful at summarizing the story, but still throw some shade at stuff you find questionable (or that you just dislike - which is hilarious). Thank you! Keep it up, I'll keep watching.
Amazing video!👍👏 I just began my comic book collection and found Toon Haven. They have an incredible range of digital comics for every genre, including the hard to find ones. Lifetime updates too!😁
Also, every "evil" Batman has a solid point in that, yes, every death caused by someone Bruce refused to put down for good or hell even set up his own black site for rehabilitation is entirely on him. He's essentially sacrificing innocent people to stick to his code and it's part of the reason Gotham will never be truly safe. At what point does that shit stop being a plot point to introduce another evil variant and start being an actual critique the character has to address and adjust to.
I forgot The Penguin "died" at some point, though I thought that was because of Red Hood getting entrapped in the old bird's scheme before he returned.
I think one of the most important aspects of Batman’s character that people seem to forget in these “Batman is the real villain” arguments is that batman understands that the criminals are mentally unwell and their crimes are not out of choice as in the law it clearly states someone criminally insane is not of sound mind and body therefore they couldn’t be actively “choosing” to do these crimes like they are crazy that’s the whole point batman is trying to help them because he also experienced horrible trauma that changed his whole life
I hope you read this, but after more than 10 years....I never ever get tired of listening to you talk, talk about comics, whatever else....I don't sit 37 minutes on ANYONE else's videos no matter the content lol
I like that Bruce talked to his family about the mistakes that he did over the past year or so and made amends for what he’s done to them, including Jason. I also like that the entire Batman Family worked together to defeat Zur, a clone of Bruce who became Robin, and one of Bruce’s mentors. The one thing I can criticize is Tim’s recent Robin suit because it looks off and that I prefer him wearing his original pre-Flashpoint Red Robin suit because it’s a sign of maturity, evolution, and character growth. Overall, this comic is good!
As much of a fan as I am of Batman, his no kill rule has become somewhat of an issue. I could maybe understand if it weren't addressed here, but now that it was addressed, you can't ignore it. Putting criminals in Arkham or Blackgate doesn't do anything because they will inevitably escape and kill again. Bruce needs to start either killing criminals or permanently disabling them or something. A lot of heroes have no kill rules tho, so its not as big of an issue with me as it is with many others, but Batman seems to be the only one who gets shit for it.
You do know it was never a moral thing right. Batman is so dmaged he know it would not stop. First it's just joker, then it's just joker and penguin, etc. In his mind he wants to kill them all, painfully.
Perhaps the only thing they could say as to why not is that he sharpens Batman like a whetstone preparing him for greater/multiversal threats. Otherwise he should off him.
That's why I like the telltale storyline. Bruce actively made Joker a villain by enabling him, but he cares for him like a friend. So it actually makes sense why he wouldn't kill him. Bruce genuinely wants to save Joker. In the main storyline, they are just strangers to each other, so it's just unreasonable.
"HAND-WAVY BATMAN STUFF" 😆😆😆😆 i'm the biggest Batman fan and i'm gonna start using that from now on. i love you, comicstorian. i will see you in the clearing in the other side. Thank you for everything
I can't help but feel like the ending took heavy inspiration from that one episode of TAS where robot imposter Batman shut down after seeing he had killed someone.
I wonder what that one would do shove criminals into his camp pocket dimension utility belt pockets? After all of memory serves me correctly that’s the one that could pull anything out of his utility belt for the occasion.
I think a 3 part movie of this comic would be dope!!! The first movie being rightfully name "Batman: fail save.". And with the last movie called "Batman: family ties"
I get angry when feel it necessary to make superheroes into reflections of themselves. To relate to them. Why have heroes when they are not on another level morally or philosophically
When i think that every story that could possibly be told, concerning The🦇Man, has been written & re-written no-less than too many times. Some talented writer comes along & proves me wrong.
This story has been wild. I've listened to Rob for a few years. You're really getting good at story telling. I didn't think you would make it at first. Now I love you bro. Your my only piece after work
Every time someone calls Batman out for letting crime fester in Gotham, they're written to have some major moral flaw so we can root against them. I love Batman but he's his own hinderance to his ability to keep Gotham safe. If you're going to have a no kill rule, you have to do a lot more to incapacitate or rehabilitate super villains, which he DOES NOT DO
It is hammered into you time and time again that if Batman starts killing then gotham will need to be kept safe from Batman. The fact that Zur is literally his personality that wants to do exactly what you say and shows exactly what will happen if he were allowed to do it.
rick and morty did a better “batman snaps” moment than any comic i’ve seen so far. our “hero”, if you can call him that, beat his nemesis after going through so much to find and weaken him, by simply throwing punches at a helpless future corpse. the whole time he’s doing that tho, rick prime is throwing the metaphorical punches he’d been holding back. “You went out and found MY grandson. You LIVED IN MY HOUSE” cackling the whole time, using his last bits of strength just to ensure he haunts his enemy forever
“There is a difference between us. We both looked into the abyss, but when it looked back at us. You blinked.” - Batman to Owlman from crisis on two earths.
“It doesn’t matter”
Love that movie
I said the same thing to my ex-wife!
@@phothewin6019 Bro, lol on the burn.
Nothing matters
Hard
Batman: (Makes himself schizophrenic)
*Batman: all according to plan*
Batman: (gives himself an aneurysm out of sheer will)
Batman: Oh yeah, it's all going according to plan
@@Chalepastel shits his pants while in a coma
Batman: I've deployed a tactical cover strategy
Bruce Wayne (to himself): Batman, get a hold of yourself. You're not going crazy. Someone is messing with your mind. You must fight it.
you mean
batmen: all according to plan
This is more like dissociative identity disorder than schizophrenia.
Harley was quite literally told by amanda waller (after Waller's system had been hacked to find the data) that both her and Deadshot had long ago worked off their prison sentences via the countless missions task force X had been on. Alongside the actual time spent in prison. And then served EXTRA time as waller had never told them and continued to keep them on a leash thinking they were still working it off and not yet reached said cut off point.
Ok?
classic Waller ngl
@@LeoCannotPark So Zur En Ar was patently wrong when he said she never atoned.
@@Jelly_Skelly yep and by extent Rob on "she never served a sentence" IF anything it also just shows that while ZUr En AR might have some solid points, hes not fully correct in everything. I'd also argue that in harley's case that her helping the batfamily all the time and being a semi hero should also be accounted for in terms of her past misdeeds. Its not like she did something bad and then fucked off the the woods to hide it out. She's been trying to correct her past mistakes as best she can for a while
atoning and getting credits off your sentence is not the same thing.
Seeing Bruce finally show emotion and hug his son almost got a tear out of me. THATs the Batman we've been missing all these years.
Batman: Oh wait, you're Daimon. I thought you were Dick. Forget what just happened.
😂😂😂
THATS ghey
Things highly unlikely to happen in main continuities
Batman killing
Spiderman standing up for himself
Spiderman didn't stand up for himself against Flash Thompson?
@@b1bbscraz3y in modern spiderman.
Peter hasn't been written the same since One More Day
@@MobiusMundUr Which is incidentally possibly the last time he really stood up for himself.
Actually, he might have a little PTSD from all that which is why he's reluctant to stand up for himself again...
@@sinteleon In continuity, he has Zero memory of Mephisto erasing his marriage.
It's purely the writers not understanding how Peter is meant to be written
@@MobiusMundUr Just because he has no direct memory doesn't mean he can't have PTSD of it from his subconscious.
The funny thing is, this is essentially DC’s version of Superior Spider-Man lol
I'm more of a Marvelhile and I'll allow this.
Seriously, that also was an amazing story. So if you're going to be "Inspired" by something why not make it awesome?
of course dc would steal from marvel they do it all the time
Been saying this for months, it’s a Superior Spider-Man/Council of Reeds story (given what’s about to happen with Absolute Power which cares over from this). And yet weirdly enough Wells is now doing a similar thing with Spider-Man first having Normans “sins” making him crazy/evil and now a few months later having what seems to be Norman’s mind doing the same thing
Not even kinda
Not even the slightest, what are u even saying?
'THAT'S ALL I CAN STAND .. AND I CAN'T STANDS NO MORE' - BATMAN
Didn't Popeye say that?
Batman on spinach
Batcornette
Rob... your willingness to educate, entertain and sheer enthusiasm for this media is what keeps me looking forward to your next episode!
You're masterful at summarizing the story, but still throw some shade at stuff you find questionable (or that you just dislike - which is hilarious). Thank you! Keep it up, I'll keep watching.
Batman with the Hush bandages.
Amazing video!👍👏 I just began my comic book collection and found Toon Haven. They have an incredible range of digital comics for every genre, including the hard to find ones. Lifetime updates too!😁
Dick just cracking Daniel in the face is hilarious 😂
Tim seems to think its funny too
and her voice on justice league ICONIC i loved seeing her actress on the 3 body problem
I’ve been waiting on more Batman content for a while. Rob never disappoints.
Love the concept but how many times are we gonna see evil batman? Azrael, Batman who laughs, Omega etc
The evil Bruce Wayne Robin was a nice touch. Too bad we already got that with The Robin King
@@Mewse1203 dont get me wrong loved it but its done to death, personally preferred the dawnbreaker
@@jordanleedavies19 right?
Also, every "evil" Batman has a solid point in that, yes, every death caused by someone Bruce refused to put down for good or hell even set up his own black site for rehabilitation is entirely on him. He's essentially sacrificing innocent people to stick to his code and it's part of the reason Gotham will never be truly safe. At what point does that shit stop being a plot point to introduce another evil variant and start being an actual critique the character has to address and adjust to.
Failsafe and zur enarh are proving good additions to the rogues gallery of Batman. Even though Zur is another personality of Bruce.
I wonder will they adapt this in a animated movie
"The truth hurts." So people will believe a lie in order to feel better.
Ah, the classic "is a copy of a person still that person?" thought experiment.
I just imagine a batman themed Fight Club. Bruce is just in the parking lot beating the crud out of himself while the criminals just 0.0
My premium ran out today. Imma about to go back to piracy with all these ads. . . .
watch the adds and support the homie!
adblock extension on pc, friendly streaming app on Mac
@@IAmMightyMike They're starting to block people who use ad block
@@eight216 they don't block your account. Just playback. So worst case scenario, try another adblock source.
newpipe
Red hood: but we're a team that lone wolf stuff stays behind bruce.
Batman 6: got it, sir
Isn't this basically Dark Knights Metal again but with robots....???
Probably…….
A little less angst
Thanks for all you do rob I got into comics years ago and I’ve watched ever since following you and Benny thank you bro
Jorge Jiménez's artwork of Oracle is 10/10
Zurr is a madman. I love it.
I forgot The Penguin "died" at some point, though I thought that was because of Red Hood getting entrapped in the old bird's scheme before he returned.
Failsafe mentioning "Putting criminals in a hole" reminded me of the episode Rumors from 2004's The Batman.
Thank youu for your perfect and great content Rob 🥶
Batman is more and more like MoonKnight ....or is it Moon Knight that's more and more like Batman
lol
🌙 knight is becoming more & more like 🦇man.
Yes
I think one of the most important aspects of Batman’s character that people seem to forget in these “Batman is the real villain” arguments is that batman understands that the criminals are mentally unwell and their crimes are not out of choice as in the law it clearly states someone criminally insane is not of sound mind and body therefore they couldn’t be actively “choosing” to do these crimes like they are crazy that’s the whole point batman is trying to help them because he also experienced horrible trauma that changed his whole life
Now THIS is beautifully written, making a new story and connecting it to stories in continuity from 30 years ago. This is really good.
Man i wish i would have not stop reading Batman books. This sounds like an amazing read.
So... now we have to add another Robin to the list.
I'm glad that I finally started reading comics again. There's a lot of stuff I was out of the loop on.
CCH Pounder had the same effect when voicing Waller.
Officially most entertaining channel on you tube.
Who would've guessed, the way to beat Failsafe was a failsafe
This new Batman video puts the absolute biggest smile on my face.
I hope you read this, but after more than 10 years....I never ever get tired of listening to you talk, talk about comics, whatever else....I don't sit 37 minutes on ANYONE else's videos no matter the content lol
U should do videos on The Shroud and Cloak! Two very O.P. Marvel Bat 🦇 Men Archetypes and very very intriguing
Vanessa thing in the original Batman comics he used a gun and finnished them.
His is just Batman going full circle.
I like that Bruce talked to his family about the mistakes that he did over the past year or so and made amends for what he’s done to them, including Jason. I also like that the entire Batman Family worked together to defeat Zur, a clone of Bruce who became Robin, and one of Bruce’s mentors. The one thing I can criticize is Tim’s recent Robin suit because it looks off and that I prefer him wearing his original pre-Flashpoint Red Robin suit because it’s a sign of maturity, evolution, and character growth. Overall, this comic is good!
Thank u for ur great content rob
Amanda Waller is like the Nick fury of DC, but darker
As much of a fan as I am of Batman, his no kill rule has become somewhat of an issue. I could maybe understand if it weren't addressed here, but now that it was addressed, you can't ignore it. Putting criminals in Arkham or Blackgate doesn't do anything because they will inevitably escape and kill again. Bruce needs to start either killing criminals or permanently disabling them or something. A lot of heroes have no kill rules tho, so its not as big of an issue with me as it is with many others, but Batman seems to be the only one who gets shit for it.
You do know it was never a moral thing right. Batman is so dmaged he know it would not stop. First it's just joker, then it's just joker and penguin, etc. In his mind he wants to kill them all, painfully.
@OhNoTheFace that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing 🤷🏾♂️
Just Bat Dad being Bat dad.
And yet he couldn't spare a drop of that Lazarus fluid to heal Oracle...
@@gagagero The joker is really him for that one.
great explanation and all but what got me to sub was the contagious laugh. clearly you enjoy what you're doing
It's getting harder and harder to explain why batman never killed the joker.
Eh, you can say that about any hero that has a mass-killing supervillan.
Perhaps it’s because in real life we are getting more and more fed up with evil?
@@neavetheartistcould have fooled me the state of California cares more about the people committing crimes than protecting the victims
Perhaps the only thing they could say as to why not is that he sharpens Batman like a whetstone preparing him for greater/multiversal threats. Otherwise he should off him.
That's why I like the telltale storyline. Bruce actively made Joker a villain by enabling him, but he cares for him like a friend. So it actually makes sense why he wouldn't kill him. Bruce genuinely wants to save Joker. In the main storyline, they are just strangers to each other, so it's just unreasonable.
100% nailed the Viola Davis cast with Waller. She killed it and is a boss
Batman is the most dangerous supervillain in the multiverse. I’m surprised Oa hasn’t intervened
You mean them little blue war criminals lol jkjk
Happy Tuesday Rob.
We miss you, man.
I like that origin for joker
Lmaooo they all just beat the shit out the Daniel at the end 😂😂
"HAND-WAVY BATMAN STUFF" 😆😆😆😆 i'm the biggest Batman fan and i'm gonna start using that from now on. i love you, comicstorian. i will see you in the clearing in the other side. Thank you for everything
Thank you for sharing, keep doing what you do!!!
I can't help but feel like the ending took heavy inspiration from that one episode of TAS where robot imposter Batman shut down after seeing he had killed someone.
This was a fun ride
I don't think that most of the people good and bad in Gotham even the Joker already have a fear of the Dark Knight
The Art work 💯
24:30
You DAMN RIGHT we love Viola Davis
Always happy for more Batman content
Can’t get Zdarsky off this book fast enough
Is there more comics with Michael Keaton Batman? That would be AMAZING. 😁
I love this story!! So well written!!!!
Zur: I am the real Batman
Batman: keep telling yourself that.
Thank you for the DC content
Great video as always, keep up the great work
Failsafe should have installed paradox absorbing crumple zones.
"Sir, FailSafe was designed to block every possible strategy you have. What are you gonna do?"
Batman: "Improvise"
I can imagine how scary an Adam West Zur really is....being the fastest prepper out of all the batmans
I wonder what that one would do shove criminals into his camp pocket dimension utility belt pockets? After all of memory serves me correctly that’s the one that could pull anything out of his utility belt for the occasion.
This was good. Thx man. 😅
Super helpful, totally worth watching
I think a 3 part movie of this comic would be dope!!! The first movie being rightfully name "Batman: fail save.". And with the last movie called "Batman: family ties"
Great video rob
Thanks was dope
Cool series! Keep them coming
The title does this story no justice 😮💨 this would be a masterpiece movie
Great stuff. Thanks for sharing
Loved it yo!!
Great job 👍
Even Batman needs to change up his game sometimes...going from "I'm Batman" to "I'm Bat-killin'!" 😂 Who knew the Dark Knight had a dark side?
wow, great video. thanks so much
Will there be a super cut video of the entire arc one day? I hope so, those are always fun to share with friends and family.
That’s fantastic, thanks for sharing
At this point you just need a series called "***** Stars Killing"
Three Asterisks Stars Killing is a terrible name. Absolute dogshit.
@@krodmandoon3479 Fair, pretty sure I'd been drinking
I get angry when feel it necessary to make superheroes into reflections of themselves. To relate to them. Why have heroes when they are not on another level morally or philosophically
It's RIDICULOUSLY COOL.....and incredibly capable
Not watched any of the other videos yet, but all those amazo bots I think Amanda is gonna snag up
Great story
If he don't laugh during the video we all riot😅😂
When i think that every story that could possibly be told, concerning The🦇Man, has been written & re-written no-less than too many times. Some talented writer comes along & proves me wrong.
This story has been wild. I've listened to Rob for a few years. You're really getting good at story telling. I didn't think you would make it at first. Now I love you bro. Your my only piece after work
Yo "batman, black sun" would be amazing
Just imagine Batmen vs Supermen... like all of them versus each other.
How dare you sir!
I wonder if Rob ever covered In the Black Mirror, one of my favorite batman stories
Every time someone calls Batman out for letting crime fester in Gotham, they're written to have some major moral flaw so we can root against them. I love Batman but he's his own hinderance to his ability to keep Gotham safe. If you're going to have a no kill rule, you have to do a lot more to incapacitate or rehabilitate super villains, which he DOES NOT DO
Or the city officials of Gotham can actually do their jobs. They don’t even want Batman beating up criminals let alone doing even more
It is hammered into you time and time again that if Batman starts killing then gotham will need to be kept safe from Batman. The fact that Zur is literally his personality that wants to do exactly what you say and shows exactly what will happen if he were allowed to do it.
Justice system could do thier damn job
great content. ty
rick and morty did a better “batman snaps” moment than any comic i’ve seen so far. our “hero”, if you can call him that, beat his nemesis after going through so much to find and weaken him, by simply throwing punches at a helpless future corpse. the whole time he’s doing that tho, rick prime is throwing the metaphorical punches he’d been holding back. “You went out and found MY grandson. You LIVED IN MY HOUSE” cackling the whole time, using his last bits of strength just to ensure he haunts his enemy forever
Title: Batman Stops Holding Back
Me: so he's going to start killing now? Maiming and incapacitation wasn't enough
That's a shark repelent bat-spray moment