Fury (2014) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!
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I think the young German soldier at the end that sees Norman but doesn't say anything represents Norman when he first entered the war before he lost his innocence. Seems to be the theme of the movie....how you lose your humanity in war.
War is part of humanity
It could also be a nod to a glimmer of humanity that still remains, something hopeful right at the end of a seemingly hopeless reality.
the german soldier was a kid , just like norman , thats why he let him go
@@hughjorg4008One with an extremely terrified look in his eyes at that. Also probably because it would be easier to ignore him and keep moving rather than point Norman out and while he may not be the one that actually takes his life, he still is responsible.
@@EnZo7992 Even though it was a company of SS by 1945 young teenagers were being thrown in units to make up the numbers.
My Grandfather fought in Normandy though to Germany in a tank assault crocodile unit ( British napalm firing tanks) they primarily fought SS units particularly the 12th SS who were mostly 18/19 kids who would not surrender, he won the military medal 2nd highest award for bravery in British army in Germany during 1945 assaulting lingen he was 19 in 1944 and consider a kid himself in the unit by 45 he was an old timer due to high casualties rate & fact, the Germans executed captured British flame thrower tank troops.
That line Shia says. “Wait til you see it… what a man can do to another man”
That line…whew.
There's a line from a different movie about another tank in ww2, but it comes from something that they actually said.
"We are a tank. If the enemy destroys the tracks, we are artillery, if they destroy the main gun, we are pillbox, if they destroy the machine guns, we are a bunker, if they destroy the armor, we are heroes."
I think it's appropriate for this movie.
The Beast is worth a reaction. Very different though.
"The Beast of War"
Not really, this is a fictional movie. None of the characters are based on real people.
@@drewpaupanekis4710
What the hell does that have to do with it?
But, since you mentioned it, Wardaddy is based on 3 different actual people who were tank commanders in ww2, one of them lost a leg and kept fighting.
You should check the facts BEFORE you speak, that way you can avoid future embarrassment.
@@carlosspeicywiener7018 Not to mention, the skirmish with the Tiger is based on an incident that took place in April '45, in which 3 Shermans (and a couple of other vehicles) were destroyed, before the Tiger finally was.
The best line in the entire movie; "Ideals are peaceful. History is violent."
Absolute truth in those words.
Also, I think it's pretty important to take notice that in the final scene, a German soldier deciding not to alert the others when discovering Norman. In that moment when staring at one another, there seems to be a mutual understanding. Their fatigue and disgust for senseless killing was so apparent. It's a brief reminder that the "enemy" are human too and the select few in charge does not represent all.
I've also heard the german sniper was meant to be War Daddy's counterpart. Which is why he pulls his ghillie vale to show his age along with his skill and experience. War daddy was killed by his counterpart while Norman was show mercy by his.
Except there is nothing peaceful about fascist ideals. The line still sounds cool, though xP
@@osdbest right 😂😂 whole idea based around genocide
The line is stating that no matter what political ideas each side of the spectrum has, there has always been violence. Everyone has ideas, but history has always shown that ideas always lead to violence.
Shit movie.
The Tiger tank was played by Tiger 131, captured nearly intact in WW2 and the only remaining operational Tiger 1 in the world. 131 lives at a tank museum in Britain, and rolls out in displays once in a blue moon.
actually,the fighting scene with the tiger and the shermans,they used a replica of a tiger build on a modern chassis.
ua-cam.com/video/dKVkA8DaIMY/v-deo.html at minute 33.00
Bovington Tank Museum to be precise and there's a dedicated Tiger Day every year.
It only got hit in the gun mantle so wasn’t that damaged was just jammed hence they abandoned the tiger but normally they use death charges with a pin with a timer so this doesn’t happen they was even a tiger manual with instructions on this
Australia almost has their tiger 1 restored to running..... And the frankentiger supposedly wound up on long island and an engine found for it as well last I could find about it.
@@Gr8Buccaneer Granted at minute 38:00, they do wheel in the real Tiger and shoot with that instead of the replica
This movie....
Heard people question why they would put a typist, fresh out of Boot, into a job he doesn't know. Iraq , 2010, I had never been in combat, trained as an MP. Was put on a gun truck in charge of a security team. It still happens
Shia Labeouf was amazing in this. His best performance
Indeed, I thought he was the best actor in this movie.
@@DoubleMonoLR here am I, send me. The tears in the eyes as he says it as wel. In my eyes the best performence I have seen from him, also so great to see that he is not just the "transformers" guy but he can in fact act and damn well at it
In the service, you do what they tell you to do, and that's not always what you thought you'd be doing.
@@mahliz This line here makes me cry every time. his face acting is perfect. That man made me cry quoting scripture and i am no fan of Christianity so the fact that it makes me cry shocks me every time too.
Kind if the same situation for me, Iraq Feb 03. I was a 96R Ground Surveillance in the 82nd Airborne. Wasn't much use for our buried sensor systems in Iraq. We ended up being the security team for the CI guys who did the interrogations.
"just wait til you see, what a man can do to another man". The delivery of that line, the dead eyes, perfection.
"You feel it?! It's called war!" is also a very powerful scene. Norman is now feeling grief, anger, hate and every other bad feeling. It's war.
Man I love Michael Pena "I'm just drunk I'm sorry" 🤣🤣
My grandfather commanded a Sherman tank in WW2 and he survived his turret getting blown off. I've seen the picture. He never spoke about his time in Europe.
I thought only drivers tended to survive the turret getting blown. He’s damn lucky
I would say that the only people he could speak to were fellow veterans. Only they could understand.
If he never spoke of his time, how'd this story get to you? Serious question...
Mine was at Omaha Beach. He almost never spoke to anyone in the family about it. I was the only one he told any stories to (when I was just a kid) besides my dad, and even then, not much. He wasn't a tanker, but he fought alongside them. German tanks were the thing he feared most. I saw what our own tanks did to the Iraqis. I did my service in my time, and I understand why he didn't talk about it much. It's nothing but ugly, brutal, and sad what war does to men's bodies and souls, no matter what side they're on.
My Grandfather was a Radio operator in the British Crocodiles assault tanks ( Napalm throwing close assault tanks) he served from D-Day +1 though the end of the war.
Winning the Military medal for bravery in 1945 at 20/21 years of age.
He primarily fought the SS as flame throwers in tanks were considered an allied terror weapon.
They were massively effective though & were loaned to the U.S. formations for town & city assaults.
He survived crazy things, he also could not surrender as croc crews were executed by the Germans.
He found out his parents had died during a bombing run when he came home & never went to unit meet up.
Despite having the campaign map for unit & lots of other memento’s, I think fury covers the fact that western front was quite sanitised by the media to reality of what the fighting was really like.
Stanley Kubrick's Paths of Glory with Kirk Douglas is an older film, so not as graphic, but still a powerful war movie worth checking out.
If they won't face German bullets, they'll face French ones! Gritty and unforgettable, an excellent film
71 Into The Fire. (2010)
Is a hugely underrated movie.
The film is based on a true story of a group of 71 kids, teenagers, undertrained and underarmed, outgunned student volunteer soldiers of South Korea during the Korean War, who were mostly killed on August 11, 1950, during the Battle of P'ohang-dong.
I like some Korean movies. The Northern Limit Line is another good one.
Yeah the Koreans are very good at making war movie I think and the 1 you mentioned is a good example.
@@miker252 I have not seen it. Will check it out. Thanks.
The weapon they used to take out the first tank was calmed a Panzerfaust. A German type of RPG or bazooka.
I may be wrong but I think the Panzerfaust came into being after the Germans captured a bazooka, liked the simple design and made their own version of it so to speak.
@@utcnc7mm No, you are wrong. Based on the "Faustpatrone" developed by the Hugo Schneider AG (HASAG) company, the "Panzerfaust" was developed by HASAG in 1942.
The panzerfaust was not a bazooka, it was a single use, single shot anti tank weapon the Germans developed and first used against the Russian tanks. It was a short range but highly effective anti tank weapon that allied tank crews feared. It was easy to use and rather inexpensive to manufacture compared to most weapons.
The Germans also had a bazooka type weapon called the panzerschrek which they developed by copying captured American bazookas in Africa
@@utcnc7mm no, the Germans developed the Panzerfaust on their own and were first used against Russian tanks with great success. It was a very successful tank destroyer and allied tank crews feared the weapon. It was a one use weapon that was disposed of after it was fired.
The Germans did developed the Panzerschrek which was a bazooka weapon after they captured American bazookas in Africa. So you had that correct just the wrong weapon
@@Patrick-xv6qv ok, thanks I knew I had read that somewhere.
This movie is brutal, the cast is great.
Great description! Completely agree!
This movie is terrible. unrealistic crap. Yes an entire column attacks a tank front on with no flanking. Yep, entrenched, camo'ed anti tank guns only take out one , out of many oncoming tanks in wide open flat area.
This is garbage.
@@benn239 I couldn't agree more. Worst and most unrealistic WW2 movie I have seen.
@@Moritz19081980 What do you consider realistic "Saving Private Ryan", "Enemy at the gates"? This is the best American war movie of the last 3 decades or so.
@@benn239 They also fail in the scene where the medic finds Norman inside the tank, in real life the 1st thing to do would be to take the gun away, also the tracer bullets were only one every 5/10 shots not like here, they were used for soldiers to see the direction they were firing at, but none of the inconsistencies make this a bad movie. Americans should try and do more like this one, romanticizing war just because it is always a distant "thing" is not a good idea.
The field where the 3 shermans and the Tiger fight was completed paved with cement under because the Tiger was a real one (and the only real one tiger every used in a movie) from Bovington Museum and it is very heavy for not make it sink and dont get any damage.
Total props to you both. I think you guys have the best more than one person reaction channel. You guys know when to comment and when not to during the movie so there is nothing missed. With reaction channels, I get it the reaction is part of the deal..not just watching a movie. But most channels just talk to hear their own voices and usually miss something that ruins the experience of the movie. You both also seem to have some good common sense with movies and understand them at its basic level. Which is refreshing because a lot of other channels, believe it or not does not have this ability. Cheers to you both & thank you!
Totally agree, i enjoy seeing a video pop up in my subscriptions from these guys when it involves a film i like as i know it will be a mature and sensible reaction that understands the film regardless of wether they like it or not.
Michael Pina actually learned how to drive a tank for the movie.
Peña
@@ravenr1420 if you like pina coladas. And getting caught in the rain...
I can't believe i missed that.
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@@benjamineckles
Great.
Now the escape song is stuck in my head. Thanks for that.
Special appearance by Tiger 131, captured in North Africa in 1943. It is the only authentic Tiger 1 operational condition. Also, the Sherman tanks went by many nicknames. For instance, Ronson, and Zippo. One hit lights them up.
And tiger 131 is a beautiful machine
Don’t forget Tommy Cooker.
Only the early Sherman's. This is a myth. The deficiency was fixed relatively quickly, and by and large the Sherman was the equal of most German tanks.
@@robertcampbell8070 See if you can find the original footage of Shermans assaulting Monte Casino. It looks like a giant is kicking them in the side when the 8.8 cm Flak on the ridge open up.
Equal to panzer 3s and 4s sure. Panthers and tigers no.
The Shermans main benefit was ease of construction and numbers. If they were so great we wouldn't have had 2,712 destroyed on the Western front.
That Ronson tag line connotation is a myth that get's repeated ad eternum.
The ending has always reminded me of an excerpt from a piece of literature called, "Lays of Rome." The excerpt goes:
"Then outspake brave Horatius,
Captain of the gate:
'To every man upon this earth,
Death cometh soon or late,
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds,
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his gods...'"
@IzzyManDude
I'm a lifelong History & Literature nerd, always fascinated by Ancient Rome & a poetry lover. I've read a lot of 19th century poetry but have not delved into that particular collection of poems. I don't know why being as it's a combination of the two.
But you've piqued my interest so I think it's time I checked it out.
Thanks for such an interesting comment.🌿
@@deborahcornell171 I aim to please. You're welcome.
One of the best war movies made in the 2000s. Excellent cast, excellent acting, excellent story. And Shia LeBouef gives an absolutely great performance!
I visited the Bovington Tank Museum last year where you can see, touch and experience tanks like the ones used in the film. They're way, way tighter and smaller inside than you think and I have to imagine tank crews had no secrets between one another. You're real close!
The first tank was shot with a panzerschrek...it schreks panzers.
Actually I think it was a panzerfaust, a disposable antitank weapon. The panzerschrek was more like the American bazooka
Yep: looked like a panzerfaust. In the German: 'Panzerfaust'-'armored fist' or 'tank fist'. 'Panzerschreck'-'tank's fright' or 'tank's bane'.
As someone already stated at 0:734 the weapon shot at the Sherman Tank was PanzerFaust it was a handheld anti-armor weapon used by German troops. To destroy Allied Armor. Norman hesitated because he knew what he saw were kids and thought it was a joke. As the War dragged on and Germany lost troops they did total mobilization in which pretty much anybody who able bodied was sent to fight. He was shocked at what he saw not making excuses for him he just got what we called his Baptism by Fire.
What a lot of people dont realize or notice also is this whole movie timeline takes place within 24 hours. The events in the entire movie is 1 day on the front.
The cast of FURY, were able to talk to WWII Tank regiments, of the UNITED STATES, IN THEIR 90S & 100S, TO Get the real picture of tank battles, in EUROPE, in 1944 & 1945. It had humbled all the ACTORS!!!
End of watch is an amazing movie
26:24 "They were doing so well until they ran out of ammo" is the best critique of warfare I've ever heard! 🤣
End of Watch would be a great movie for the channel.
Side note, your haircut is looking fresh as hell sir!
Great movie. I fought in Afghanistan and its not just young soldiers that freeze or cant handle the battles, which it seems most war movies put across
David Ayer also directed Harsh Times and Street Kings....both are great
Harsh Times is criminally underrated movie
A lot of war movies paint things in a better light, this is one of the ones that show the dark side even when winning you are still losing something, nice choice for a reaction glad you guys did this one.
Shia LaBeouf reportedly kept his personal hygiene to a minimum during filming, had a tooth removed and cut a scar into his face, all for this movie. That's uh...dedication to the craft right there.
Us he did could you imagine
They said on set he was rank
Oh and if you haven't seen the movie Tax Collector it's worth the watch
Shia played a great part and alot of people didn't know it was him playing that role
Amazing reaction yet again! So impressed with how you guys break down the deeper meaning in the movies you watch! Insightful and interesting. Absolutely the best reaction channel on UA-cam!
I love how realistic it feels, it really shows the dark gritty nature of war and how bad things could get with humanity at its worst
" Best job I ever had"
You're goddamn right
I have a movie recommendation for you to react to: Frailty (2001), this movie is underrated, but and excellent.
Yes sir. Underrated for sure. Starring the late great Bill Paxton.
Man I had forgotten all about that movie and you are right it is quite good. Need to add it to my list of things I need to re-watch.
I’ve been saying this for a hot minute.
The other two films I’ve been saying are Payback and Ransom with Mel Gibson.
@@andrewbothwell6963
Plus Matthew McConaughey & Powers Boothe. Great cast. That movie scared the bejabbers out of me.
@@johnnyawesome3042 Payback is another good one. Ransom I don't remember all that well. I know I watched it though.
Just wanted to say Congratulations to you both!!!!!!
Still suggesting you check out Hamburger Hill. Its a fantastic Vietnam War movie based on an actual battle. It really dies a great job shiwing the brotherhood of combat soldiers.
Agreed.
An underrated, oft overlooked classic IMO.
Also, you just gave me a flashback to Doc and the others saying "It don't mean nothing" 😢
For the opposite aspect, Casualties of war is also an excellent movie - seems to generally be the 'forgotten' Vietnam war movie. That Michael J Fox is the main actor may be part of the reason, but he's good in it.
Good story, terrible movie. I'm not sure who was trying to out-act whom, but those are some hammy performances.
One of my all time favorite movies. Great suggestion
Not the most accurate film but it's still very good I think
love your reactions... Sam I hope you are feeling well......
Loved this reaction guys. I’m a tanker from desert storm times. It’s a great movie and yes very dark. Tankers consider “the beast” to be the best tank movie. It stars George Duzundza and Jason Patrick from lost boys. Check it out it’s great 😊 love you guys
The Beast is a great film, sadly seems a little overlooked now-a-days.
Did tanker's call people crunchies when you were in service? A friend of mine who served in Iraq said a lot of Americans and brits would refer to people as such
It's free with ads on UA-cam. Jason Patrick plays a member of a Russian tank crew in AFGANISTAN. I hardly recognized him he was perfect.
4:03 "Interesting we never saw his face"
Oh. Oh no.
A beautiful horrific war movie, like those based on true events or true stories. Other great are, 13 hours, Lone Survivor, hacksaw Ridge, Once we were Soldiers, Blackhawk Down,1917, Dunkirk, Thin Red Line, Unbroken, Big Red One, Hamburger Hill, American sniper, Saving Private Ryan.
The tiger tank was built taken an anti-tank artillery piece (like those hidden in the bush around here 9:50) and throwing at it the maximal amount of frontal armor and a huge engine.
It was a technical hell, had lot of problems and was very expensive to maintain and operate.. but a true monster in tanks battles. In this battle Fury took an advantage because the Tiger was shooting the other squad members...
There was a story I read from a WWII vet and he describes how to be a good soldier you have to surrender to the idea that you’re going to survive, and how you’re a different person for just considering that you’re going to die. But in order to accomplish whatever mission or objectives you have you can’t be concerned about your safety. And how many of these people have gone through such events especially on the front lines it comes down to a small world you’re trying to protect yourself and the men next to or even trying to protect the town behind you.
A lesser known and recognized war movie, but Fury is one of the best. It's just so brutally shameless about its themes and action, just fantastic.
Happy soon to be Mother's Day Samantha!! 🌞☮️
The likes of this movie, Hacksaw Ridge, Saving Private Ryan, and others, really makes you wonder how anyone ever managed to return home with a shred of sanity intact after being through all of that.
Add "We were Soldiers" to that list....
Hacksaw Ridge is pretty ridiculous in some aspects though, it borders on cartoonish in some scenes. The glorification of brutality & gore also seems pretty contradictory with the story.
@@DoubleMonoLR so is Fury and SPR. Great cinema but the tactics, encounters and action is unrealistic Hollywood crap.
@Abbath77 so say you wERE YOU THERE. ?? I thought not.
@DoubleMonoLR Like Saving Private Ryan isn't at moments although it begins flawlessly.
I love the closing scene with the pan out showing all the spent ammo and bodies!
and it's all in the shape of the Eye of Horus. really neat imagery for how horrible the context is
It drives me nuts that the Tiger tank came at them instead of staying put in a defensive position.
Yes, poor tactics, but great cinema.
Although, it couldn't sit in the smoke and risk being surrounded. Either forward, or back.
And the lead Sherman (also the most dangerous, with what looks like an upgraded gun), would have been the first target.
The movie needed this to create a hero tank for the US. I don't like war movies which doesn't show perspectives from both sides, at least to a point. Germans enters the scenes only to be heroical killed by Fury and its crew. It could have been a strong message if the final scene would have shown that it was Hitler youth which got wasted while attacking Fury without knowing what to do to take out a stranded tank.
@@GK-yi4xv Fury being a 76mm Sherman could have shot that Tiger from the front at that range while the others charged. Tigers "only" had 100mm of near flat armor. The 76 was more than capable of defeating that at that range.
Yeah I suggest watching the video 'Fury but with actual german tactics'
Yep. I believe Fury has the 76 Jumbo high velocity gun.
The tiger tank used is tiger 131 which is one of only eight tiger 1 left and is the only tiger 1 in running condition.
What stood out to me was the difference between Norman looking like a teenager the first time we saw him to the last time when he was in the ambulance, you could tell he had experienced ALOT
Looked like a different person,
Great movie
You should watch Come and See. It's a stunning movie about what the Nazis did in Belerus. The teenager actor ages so much by the end
Schmitt, Mrs. Schmitt,
My grandfather's brother George was a tanker in WW2. He died while in serving in Europe in the Winter of 1944, I believe either in Belgium or France. My grandfather John (1924 - 2017) served in Italy in the Air Force (then known as the Army Air Corps) and made it back home. I think his brother's death left him with a deep and eternal sense of guilt and sadness. He never talked much about his time in the Army. One time my Aunt (his daughter) wanted to take him to see this movie; my uncle (his second son) felt that was a terrible idea. This movie is still well done and worth watching.
The guy that "surrendered and was unarmed" was wearing an American jacket attempting to blend in. That is legally and morally a rightful execution.
That is NOT a war crime.
No, it doesn't work that way. He would have to be convicted by a court martial before being executed. Without that, he is a normal prisoner of war and killing him is a war crime.
Let's leave aside the fact that no normal person would sentence him to death for wearing an American raincoat alone.
My Grand Father served in WW2 he was the main gunner in a Achilles Tank destroyer " Canadian M10 " .
Movie made me cry 1st time I watched it , crazy to think he went up against tiger tanks .
he did not talk about the war very much , he did stay close with he crew
This is definitely one of the better more recent war movies. Sometimes I feel Brad Pitt doesn't get enough credit for how good of an actor he is.
There is nothing actually holding a tanks turret on the tank itself except gravity. If you were big enough to pick up a tank and turn it upside down the turret would just fall out. As a result, when the ammo and other explosives inside a tank are detonated by enemy fire the force of the explosion is enough to pop the turret off of the chassis.
Fun fact; This is the first time since 1946, a real Tiger tank has been used in a movie. It's the only working tiger tank left. 1300 were ever made. Only 3 still exist. Only one is still working.
It took this long to bring it up to working condition. In Saving Private Ryan, that was a Russian T34 dressed up to look like a Tiger.
4:03 "Interesting we never saw his face"
Oh boy 😂
Shame Memphis Belle was in 2nd to last. Guess not too many people have seen it, but its one of my top favorite war movies. Yes, the whole the movie is about a crew of men and their B-17 bomber. But it shows what those planes had to do on their bombing runs without fighter plane support.
I agree. In the late 90s I started going to a vets group to help deal with my PTSD. The group consisted mostly of Vietnam vets with a handful of us Gulf War vets and one WWII vet. He was also the only officer in the room. He was a B17 bombardier. He was 8th Air Force and flew bombing raids over Germany until his crew rotated home. Then they went back and flew five more missions for the D-Day invasion. We all were honored to have known him.
Yup. Memphis Belle needs some respect put on it!
The Sherman was a medium tank - the Tiger was a heavy tank carrying an 88mm main gun - which would rip right through a Sherman. "Fury" is an "upgunned" M4 Sherman (what the British called the "Sherman Firefly") mounting a 76mm main gun. Firefly's were somewhat rarer than the normal Shermans, so were generally spread amongst units to give each unit one gun that would penetrate the heavy Tiger and Sturmgeschütz armour. In truth, the 76mm could, given the right ammunition, penetrate the front armour of a Tiger, but using APCBC ammunition (the most common available) they'd need to hit the side or rear.
At the time that Fury was set, Ronson (the lighter manufacturer) had an advert that boasted that their lighter "Lit First Time!"... which is why US troops nicknamed the M4 as the "Ronson" (the Germans called it the "tommy cooker" or "tommy boiler"). It didn't help that the M4 was fuelled with gasoline. As a German tanker put it after the war "The Tiger was worth 10 Shermans - trouble was, for every Tiger, there were 20 Shermans!"
One bit of this film that inaccurate - the Tiger is working! They were actually a bloody useless tank - massively complex to both build and maintain, and prone to breaking down all the time. When they were working, they were fearsome (and looked terrifying) but, in reality, at any one time most of their number were somewhere being fixed.
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YeOldeGamer is quite right about the gun - the Sherman portrayed had the US M1 76mm - which, of course, explains why there was still a bow gunner - the UK 76mm was so big you lost him. So there you go, you live and learn! I always believed that all of the up gunned Shermans had the 17 pounder in them!
I also didn't make it clear about the fuel (blame the time that I was putting the message up) - the Germans used petrol/gasoline too - it was ammunition storage that was the problem (later they introduced water jackets and lower storage to prevent "cook off"). It's still believed that the fuel was a problem for hits to the engine area (it is, after all, how the Tiger was taken out in this film!)
Fury was a regular Sherman with the (much rarer) US 76mm gun. It was not the british M4 Firefly.
The 17-pounder is much longer and they also had no hull gunner (Norman's job) as there was no room.
And the higher earlier fire rates was attributed to ammo cook-off. Which was solved (somewhat) with wet stowage.
German tanks also used gasoline.
@@yeoldegamer5112 - You're quite right, I looked it up (made a change to post). I'm now beginning to doubt the origin of the "Ronson" moniker too!
This is a great movie on many levels. Especially because of ther reality of tank warfare. We often see tanks in movies or in historical clips, but we don't see the people inside. So we kinda of forget they are in metal coffins and its a terrible job.
You guys have been on a roll, your movie lineup has been special.
During the meal scene story, did anyone else think they were shooting more than wounded horses? The crew's group-emotional breakdown there suggested to me that they were eliminating wounded soldiers. I assume this is the Falaise pocket after the Normandy breakout - a brutal siege-like engagement that was visceral. Love the reactions, Schmitts!
I was the Crew Chief of AAV in the Marines in the 90s. Amphibious assault vehicle. The hull was made of aluminum. They used them in Iraq. When an RPG hit them, it's like a stick of butter in the microwave. From the inside out it would melt.
You should add Paths of Glory to your war movie list - and then watch it whether it wins or not. It's an early Stanley Kubrick movie - and not like his others. It's also one of the best about WWI which until recently hasn't been covered well. Good reaction as always, thx.
YES - End of Watch! Shows the brotherhood.
12:05 - You comment about Wardaddy "He just made him kill a dude, and now he's gotta make sure he eats enough food."
When I was deployed, I remember a specific day like that. I was the younger soldier, and we had been involved in a protracted clearance mission in which our platoon was assisting our sister battalion in basically literally going door to door, clearing an entire province with _a lot_ of enemy combatants in the area. We had just cleared several particular houses on a block (1fl, 2fl, rooftop), and were engaged by multiple shooters, on multiple different positions, from an adjacent series of houses. As an infantry unit, we took cover and engaged the enemy positions from our positions in, out, and from the rooftop. I was my platoon's radio guy (right hand man of our LT), so my primary duty was being the ear and mouthpiece of my LT/our platoon to our other elements. My LT had me request a gunrun from the helo air support on station, a team of Apaches. While our fireteams had pretty much defeated most of the known shooters by that time, it was the Apache team that ended the gunfire. When friendlies make contact with enemy forces, it's standard protocol to recover all the enemy KIA, and conduct thorough search of their positions for any relevant intel. As this was an extensive mission utilizing many, many elements across a large area, there's also a fair bit of waiting for assistance.
As we had cleared and secured the area, our responsibility at that time was to hold position, continue to hold security, and wait for the designated elements to come and process the KIA and conduct the site search. This also means it's a moment like you comment on, where it's time for the senior NCOs to make sure the men are taking a beat to drink water, eat, and take some moments of downtime (with security shifts).
I remember my buddies and I sat down in the courtyard of the enemy position that we had just been engaging, with at least 8 enemy KIA within 15' of us (some LOS, some behind the cover they fought from), and pulled out our MREs because our platoon sergeant told the squadleaders & fireteam leaders to do so (ie: shift up: split security and maintenance/rest). As I was unceremoniously eating one of the packaged crackers and sharing a cigarette with my buddy, I distinctly remember one of the squad leaders walk up to me, and shuffle something near me with his boot, "Hey. Is that bits of your cracker, or bits of his skull?" he says, motioning back toward one of the deceased enemy combatants in the courtyard near us that had died from several headwounds from one of our SAWgunners. I looked down, and evaluated it, visually comparing the off-white pieces on the ground by my leg to the cracker in my hand and crumbs on my vest.
It was definitely skull.
There's no way to make really any aspect of visceral combat go down easy, but the seemingly insane juxtaposition of responsibilities like that serve a few purposes. First and foremost, the eat/drink thing is an objective responsibility of making sure the troops are combat-functional. Food and water. Give your bodies something to work with. Additionally, I think it's also relevant to focus people in on simple responsibilities, because there's _a lot_ of shit that's feels out of your control when you're in the middle of these terrible scenarios. Routines are important for a lot of people struggling with traumas and instability. At the time, I was in the zone. My head was in the game, and I wasn't much put off by all the things I experienced during that 15 months. But looking back, taking the time to examine and contemplate my experiences (like that day - and that was really only one tiny part of an unfortunately long day, and larger mission) is really important for really anybody that's gone through some shit... I know for me, it's important for me to as some kind of thermometer of my humanity, maybe. And I also think it's important to make sure that I can talk about them when the moments come. It's important for my contemplation, and it's important for the contemplation of others, I think. Well, maybe this story isn't, but I mean like, in general.
What's funny is that the Shermans weren't that outgunned. The fight with the Tiger II vastly over-rates the German tank. The 75/76MM Gun (the standard Sherman armament at the time) could have easily Penned (Penetrated) the German Armor at the distances they were at (Less than 300 yards) It would have had a little more trouble hitting the thick frontal armor, but at the distance still should be able to go through. The 17lb gun on the Fury (a British variant of a Sherman called a "Firefly") would have turned that Tiger into swiss cheese from up to 800m away. Both Shermans could load a fire a whole, whole lot faster as well. Not saying that the 88 on the Tiger wasn't a powerful gun, it was.
Just saw you ask what was that (first tank knocked out). It is a German antitank weapon, Panzerfaust (tank fist). A handheld shape charge rocket designed to penetrate the thin side armor of allied tanks. The Sherman tank was not diesel but gasoline, which is why it burst into flames so quickly.
Great Job!!! When I was in the army, I wondered (bein a paratrooper) what it'd be like to be in a tank. But not enough to actually get in a tank (we called them "bomb magnets"). After I got out, I saw a Military Channel documentary on antitank weapons. The things designed to kill tanks nowadays are truly terrifying. You couldn't get me into one even if you used a gun. My hat's off to all tankers.
The man War Daddy had the new guy kill with his pistol was unfortunately destined to death as he had broken a incredibly sensitive rule of war not only established by the Geneva Convention but something that many men across the world who wear uniforms and have experience combat consider a despicable act is what this man committed. What is known as a "Ruse De Guerre" or in English known as ruse of war. When wearing the uniform of the opposing side to fool the enemy and get advantage. Now at this stage of war the German army was in dire straights and many units were militia grade or just very basic training and most of their equipment was modified or World War 1 era weapons and could be that they did not have the proper clothing to keep themselves warm and the man could have just picked up the American coat to keep himself warm. Would make more sense that the men in his unit did not force him out of it knowing as soldier what the consequences would be. which leads me to believe this was one of those basic/militia grade units who probably thought nothing of the taking of the uniforms.
The Thin Red Line is probably the most cinematic war film there is, a true masterpiece of film making.
sean penn was outstanding on that movie.
@@theGabbynaut Absolutely.
I love the fact that Adrian Brody was supposed to be the main character in the script. He’s in it for what, 10 minutes?
Was probably the worst movie I've ever seen. Almost walked out but stayed. Like watching a train wreck I couldn't stop.... 🤮
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I am glad that you two enjoyed the movie; hopefully, it was not too intense or gruesome (quite an understatement, lol) for Samantha. “End of Watch" (2012), with Jake Gyllenhaal and Michael Peña, would certainly be worth watching for a first-time reaction in the future.
Love y'all's reactions.
Regarding all the vibrant tracer rounds you see in this film's machineguns - One thing that people may not realize is that between each tracer and the one following it is about 3-5 regular bullets (no tracer) fired, depending on how the unit wanted to load up. Visually, it looks like it would be a 3-5 ct between each tracer with regard to the movie (but I don't think the movie's audio of the machinegun firing report necessarily accurately reflects that rate of fire either), but IRL gunteams can manually order the rounds in the belt to suit how frequent they want the tracers to be for visual aid in walking the gun in on target locations.
Side-info: The .50 M2 Browning that some of the American tanktop gunners are firing is still topping vehicles today.
20:04 - Tiger tank pops the top off the American Sherman.
Tank turrets pop off like that because they're basically the only part of the cabin that isn't a welded box. The pressure change of a penetrative hit will force the top off, especially if interior explosives (like the tank's ammo) are detonated in the strike.
22:05 - The men dismount after an AT mine blew the track.
A tank-mine requires a very high weight trigger in order to "filter" targets. *You want a tank mine to take out a tank,* not a jeep, not a soldier. Therefore, they're not worried about other AT mines for the moment.
31:12 - "hanged, or hung"
Objects are hung, but _people are hanged._
The Shermans and Tigers were reflective of different doctrine. The Sherman was originally designed for speed, mobility, and infantry support with its original short-barrelled 75mm cannon for HE rounds primarily. Tank fighting was to be done by towed anti tank guns and special tank destroyers. The TDs looked like tanks but had much thinner armor, and often not even a roof on the turret, but it did have a power cannon for killing tanks.
The German had a similar doctrine early on: mobility favored over firepower and armor with anti-tank guns to deal tanks. This included the infamous 88mm which could kill any early war tank at long range. Indeed in North Africa the Germans would often use their tanks as a sort of bait to draw British tanks into range for the 88s.
The Tiger reflected real world experience, especially on the Eastern Front. The Russian T-34 tank was very tough and could resist the common German tank and AT guns even at fairly close range, except the 88. The Russians also had a lot of tanks and AT guns. So the Tiger was designed as a heavy tank, favoring armor and firepower over mobility. It was intended not to flank enemy positions but to smash through them or to hold a position and hurt the enemy that tried to take it. It succeeded fairly well at this, with some Tigers taking dozens of hits but still kept going, but it had serious reliability issues and a short range.
The Shermans weren't much of a match for it. The British upgraded the cannon to a more powerful version, which had some success but the armor was still thin. There were times that entire columns were wiped out, sometimes without taking any Tigers with them.
The US resisited for some time developing their own heavy tank. Eventually they did and it was sent in in the last few months of the war. The Pershing had heavy armor and a 90mm gun. It was effective though it saw limited combat.
The turrets on the Shermans came off because the internal ammunition exploded. The shells were mostly stored in the open inside the tank so a hit from and enemy shell that came through the armor or fragments could set some off. If anough went off, the turret could come off.
Wrong. The 75mm was specifically chosen to kill enemy tanks. It was an antitank gun and the best one the US had at the time. US Doctrine as to use tanks as an offensive weapon to kill enemy tanks and use Tank Destroyers for mobile defence. Shermans by the time the movie is set stored ammo in wet stowage bins in the floor.
Has anyone noticed that TBR has the same haircut as Brad Pitt ? :D
LOL
Speaking as someone who was a crewman on tanks the battles and effects of the tank rounds are incredibly realistic.
I was never in war but I have been in units with guys who were in Desert Storm and one of our company's sergeants was describing that if you hit a weaker tank between the turret and hull with a main gun round the turret would flip up in the air "like a bottle cap".
I also heard that the director met with tank crewman from WWII to get details right and some of the men told him they never told anyone what they shared with him.
You both do an amazing job with reactions. Keep it up!
Since the war in Ukraine started, there has been an inofficial "turret toss competition" because the Soviet-built T-64 and T-72 tanks of Russia (and also Ukraine) have an autoloader system right below the turret where the unprotected ammo is stored. So if these tanks get hit there by an anti-tank shell, it results in catastrophic ammo explosions, with the turrets flying literally sky high. One was found buried on the 5th floor of a building and another flew so high, that it crashed through the asphalt surface upon landing, only the tip of the turret was sticking out of the ground. That picture is now really famous.
the Tiger scene is a little inaccurate. Fury was a newer Sherman, it had a 76mm high velocity gun, it would have taken the Tiger out with one well placed shot, without needing to get behind it. Also, a Tiger wouldn't be crewed by a commander dumb enough to go alone like that.
"Willy Peter" = White Phosphorus rounds. We aren't allowed to use it as a weapon against infantry anymore lol. It is still used for other tasks from time to time.
This was a great reaction. You two captured all the important moments, emotions and the symbolism very well. Thank you for this.
My thoughts on Fury is that overall it is a good movie. It truly does a great job at showing that war is dark and depressing. A theme shown throughout the film nonstop. Historical and technical accuracy wise it lacked a bit. But i think the fact that they managed to use a REAL Tiger I tank (Tiger 131) was a phenomenal feat that gives this film major points. Many WWII films have Tiger tanks in them and none of them are the real deal. This one on the other hand is.
7:10 - 7:33 The thing he shot was a Panzerfaust which translates into Tank Fist.
An anti tank shaped charge that punches through the tank after impacting the hull with a hot cooper stream.
It goes through armor like a hot knife through butter, burns the ammunition and the crew. The only drawback is it has no accuracy, so you need to shoot from close range.
Fury really had plot armor, surviving multiple 88s and direct Tiger hits.
Does detract a bit.
Another great reaction from you two, thank you!
Statistically speaking here are some comparisons of the Sherman vs the German Tiger tank.
A Sherman tank was a lightweight in comparison to a Tiger. The Sherman weighed 33 tons and had a 75mm gun, compared to the Tiger's 54 tons and a 88mm gun. A Tiger also had 3.9 inch thick armor, so shells from a Sherman literally bounced off it. Fast forward 50 years and the Abrams tank is nearly 75 tons of armor, weapons and technology
The weapon that was used is called a PanzerFaust.
Fantastic review. This is a tough movie but I think it's on of the best. It makes you feel like you are right there with them.
Plus I loved your comments at the end, I can tell you really enjoyed it. 👍👍
Since you two watched a very heavy WW2 movie. Maybe next to lighten things up a bit, watch "Biloxi Blues". A comedy with Matthew Broderick and Christopher Walken set in the time of that war, but no violence and blood and guts, just real fun.
In high school i used to worship this movie. To this day i find myself quoting it
I hope you have also seen older ww2 movies. The longest day, A bridge too far, Tora Tora Tora... There are many ultimate classics to see and remember forever.
@Unwoken European you bet your sweet ass I have my grandfather was in the big one and he was more of a father to me than the gang banger my slutty mother humped I went on a bit of an idealistic crusade when he passed so I've seen every WW2 film I could I resent the "revisionist" crap we have now
Good movie
The Germans learned in the Africa campaign that 88 MM flak cannons were extremely effective anti-tank weapons. The Panther, Tiger and King Tigers all are medium and heavy tanks built around the 88 MM gun. The Allies tactics against Tigers and King Tigers were to call in air support to take them out If there was no air support it would be to flood them with numbers, as they showed in the movie. It would be a pyrrhic victory. The Soviets probably created the best all around tank, the T-34, and even that struggled with Tigers. The kill ratios on the Eastern front in certain sectors was one dead Tiger for 8 T-34s.
Been looking forward to this one.👍
Intense movie and great reaction you two, or should I say two and a half! So many great war movies, i.e., Patton; Saving Private Ryan; We were Soldiers; Hacksaw Ridge; even the latest release The Covenant, etc. But I'm an old-timer so my favorite is The Dirty Dozen. I'd be interested to see your reaction to that classic. Again, thanks for The Fury, keep up the great channel.
4:03 "Interesting we never saw his face...." oh don't worry, you're about to 😂😬
For the battle with the Tiger.
They made it easier for the americans to fight it in the movie, because in real the Tiger wouldn't have come out of his cover so easily.
Also in the 1v1 with Fury the Tiger would have in real turned his whole body and not only the turret so they would have had a harder time to get in position for a killing blow.
That's because the film crew was only allowed to drive the Tiger forward, because the lenders were afraid some of the mechanics could break and a repair would have been very costly.
I JUST saw this film for the first time last week...it's streaming on some station, don't remember which one. Good film. Glad I caught it.
I love Jon Bernthal as an actor. I hope you do more movies/tv of his.
I vote for Shot Caller.
And the scene with the SS prisoner was actually based on a real photo of one of those SS guys that got captured and beat up by the Canadians
Ironically me and a few buddies would always say “best job I ever had” to each other when it was especially suck in Afghan as a Marine. We even all got it tattooed before this movie came out. So this movie hit close for me and reminds me of some of the greatest guys I’ll ever know
If the guys survive the tank battles, and the entire war, then they come back to the civilian peacetime world and have to try and adjust from the battlefield.
Its no wonder that so many soldiers have PTSD and have broken futures.
My grandfather was a Korean War vet. He was a nice person before he went to Korea, and came back a cruel hardass.