I'm calling BS on Jamie lol those dudes are huffing dust off and throw out palms along with sweeps with no regard for their safety. Probably wear bicycle helmets IRL
“When Snake Eyez leaves his house and travel for a tournament. Thats when you know, Gief is top tier when he does that.” thats a bar if i ever heard one
@@Iagui3cammy takes WAYYY more skill to actually WIN with, than your brainless fireball drive rush character buddy LMAOOOOOO😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Yal are lazy and NO BRAINED IF YOU HAVE A FIREBALL LMAOOOOO
they crazy for several of these picks. As far as Cammy goes tho, i think to actually be successful with her u gotta play with some brain, shes not like Akuma or Bison, that trashcans can be good with. Its people that have never really played Cammy much and have trouble with the matchup that think shes a chucky cheese character. I agree shes not top big brain tho, id put her in the mid tier where ryu is
Speaking as a Diamond Cammy, I can safely say that you absolutely cannot just mash anything. Everything she does is very deliberate in high ranks, otherwise she gets lit up hard. I strongly disagree with their Akuma rating, the dude has 10% less health than everybody, that means 10% less room for mistakes. Nah, he is definitely up there in big brain with Cammy.
I feel like if we are looking at how well a character fares in top tier gameplay and how deliberate you have to be with your moves? Cammy is definitely big brain. How many Cammy players be consistently showing up and winning tourneys. The only Cammy consistently showing up is Punk whereas you have mutliple Eds and Akumas.
@@VoiceFGC @unforgiven3035 once you get to high ranks everything is "deliberate" in the sense that you cant just mash....but I refuse to give Cammy big brain because of what even justin admits to in the video: she has incredibly privileged normals that let her press buttons with a lot more reach and safety than a lot of other characters in neutral. Also Cammy's core design and strength ultimately boils down to whether or not she will go low forward or dive kick and that's too simple and strong a game plan. I agree she's not eat crayons tier especially with the hurtbox on the divekick in 6 but if you think you're a big brain for throwing out those normals try walking a mile with Jamie's standing roundhouse.
I know you cover other games here but I love the more than usual SF6 coverage and the guest you been getting lately I think it’s definitely my favorite FG content wise right now.
jamie in a nut shell: he has to give up pressure and damage to get tools that are worse than those of other characters. even at lv4 he is just a worse camy
@@heroicsquirrel3195 totally agree. Cammy is now more footsies based. Playing good footies is not using brain power. I bet my cat would be footies god if she played fighting games and I don't think she is big brained.
@@heroicsquirrel3195 COMMON CAMMY W. She takes all the brains and requires perfect execution and optimal confirms while all the cammy haters sit still and abuse fireball drive rush for constant get in for free cards! LMAOOOO YAL ARE BRAINLESS GOOFYS WHO ARE COPING THAT YAL GET OUTTHOUGHT AND OUTPLAYED BY BIG BRAIN CAMMY😂😂😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡. COPE MORE CRY MORE CAMMY IS THE QUEEN OF BRAINS❤️🔥💅‼️🤣
You’re right, cammy is WAYYYY more smarter than chun. Cammy is the hardest character in the game. You have a BRAINLESS FIREBALL DRIVE RUSH, CAMMY DOES NOT, CASE CLOSED BOT😂🤣🤡🤡
@@lamarcolvin8833 Yeah I feel like fireball driverush is way more brainless than divekick which can actually be anti-aired by players above diamond lol. And they both have blessed buttons
@@plannedtuna8293yeah these cammy haters be yapping dude LMAOOOO. They’re delusional imbeciles these are the SAME PEOPLE WHO PLAY KEN JURI CHUN GUILE DEEJAY RASHID ED ETC LMAOOOO🤣😂🤣. They constantly cry about cammy’s dive kick AND spin knuckle like they don’t want cammy to have no special moves😂😂😂😂straight GOOFYS🤣🤣🤣. So they can abuse their fireballs and bully cammy all day without her fighting back humans are not real😂😂😂😂😂
@@willkershisnik5893 that’s not the point you goofy. The point is you play a lame lazy ez mode corny character who always has a get in for free card with brainless drive rush and brainless fireball lmaooooo cope more
@@zombieeightpack1381 97 percent of players have no idea what to do against dhalism and just get cheesed unless your in high level play he's not that hard compared to ed where as soon as you get to platinum everyone knows the counter play
You sit there with a get in for free card in fireball drive rush, and have the nerve to speak on CAMMY, who basically nobody has won with except PUNK who has massive amounts of legacy skill so he’s an outlier anyway LMAOOOO. You just yapping cause you a hater and you mad cammy players destroy your BRAINLESS FIREBALL CHARACTER LMAOOOOO. “HOW DARE CAMMY HAVE MOVES🥸🤓🤡”LMAOOOOO☠️🤣🤣🤣
kimberly in crayon eating because "lol run slide" while cammy is in big brain, ken in small and rashid & guile in little brain is actually deranged. this video has to be a meme. have to just assume zykles had a huge part in this content.
I play Ryu, Cammy, Lily and Kimberly. To have Kimberly at Crayon eater is wild. Now, I'm only at diamond, but man was she the hardest character to do anything with when the opponent knew how to check her. Now I'm not saying she's big brain, but crayon eater; really?
Don’t feel bad. The community loves trolling Kimberly because she’s really annoying to play against. It’s almost impressive that Capcom managed to create a character that’s so frustrating to fight without being good.
Yeah RYU players it feels have just zero strategy or anything going on, they win off sheer unpredictability that either may or may not workout in their favor
I feel like Kimberly players are gaslit like crazy ngl, i get where he's coming from to some extent but i feel like people that do the random tp's, slides and other neutral skip dont prevail against competant players that understand the gimmicks. If more people understood the matchup and how jab beats the majority of her BS i think the perception of the character being braindead may change but i could be wrong since i don't posses the level of knowledge on the topic compared to these guys.
Nobody has won with cammy at the highest level except PUNK, who a lifetime street fighter player to begin with so he’s an outlier LMAOOOO, no other cammy player has even sniffed an offline major, not even COME CLOSE, YOU JUST YAPPING BECAUSE YOURE A CAMMY HATER AND HOW DARE CAMMY HAVE MOVES AGAINST YOUR BRAINLESS FIREBALL CHARACTER 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Guile doesn’t have buttons he can spam up close without using resources to get a tick grab .most of his buttons can be DI’d in neutral.hes a read character,if you miss that AA he may die..Hes one of the few still playing street fighter while most are gliding across the stage with jab jab jab .No way you can win at high level with booms and flash kicks y’all out here cappin..I’d like to see either one of yall get to 2000 Mr doing booms and flash kicks
I don't know that I'm sold on Zangief being top 5 as it was suggested in the Zangief video (though Justin did leave that up for debate, to be fair), nut during the Guile section of tjis video, I noticed that Zangief could combo into his level 2 from OD lariat, which I didn't know was a thing (I thought he could only combo into level 3), and now I definitely see the argument for the 50/50 being heavily skewed in Zangief's favor think his tier placement here is justified. Being able to between 45 and 47 percent damage for a relatively easy combo depending on whether a person jumps or jabs is definitely a scary prospect. This meathead is slowly learning.
@@Jack-yb8oc Ahh I get it: You don’t have an actual intelligent reply either so you decided to copy the other guy and try to be “funny”. Riveting. Let’s see how many others will be as “funny” as you and do the exact same. Very funny and very original as well.
@@orlanzo2621 Kimberly is bad, but in terms of executing her gameplan she’s very easy to play. There’s a difference between ease of use and character strength. Dhalsim is also bad, but obviously his ease of use is not even comparable. Also I feel like this list is more representative of how **players** actually **use** the characters, in which case it makes sense she would be in crayon tier. Like, I’m 1800 MR and even being pretty far into Master Kim players are STILL just doing random slide and elbow dropping / raw driverushing every 3 seconds. If we were talking about “how hard it is to win a tournament with each character” Kimberly would be one of the hardest, but again, just because she’s bad - not because executing her neutral / gameplan is hard.
Jamie and Guile need to go. Guile is flash kick, sonic boom, empty jump grab. Definition of brain dead. Jamie's normals are plus even though they aren't necessarily. Drive rush, heavy punch is spammed by every Jamie known to man. Also easier to get drinks as well. Big brain is Dhalsim, Chun-Li, Aki, and JP.
I’m so disappointed of lose in a tournament that I was in top 2. I didn’t comeback all the way to grand finals losers just to lose. I’m so disappointed
I'm a plat Kim and it's so true! Because literally the only time your character is good is when you going in, so you gotta go so BMP that you go all the way around to eating crayons.
@@plannedtuna8293 oh hahaha I was just joking about how I think you need to be so brainy to play Kim that it turns into eating crayons because of how far into big brain you need to go, that you just end up going all the way around.
Dee Jay is a big brain character in terms of his toolset, but he is no-brain in that you can just do whatever and it will work. No brain until Capcom adjusts that dude further.
COMMON CAMMY W. She takes all the brains and requires perfect execution and optimal confirms while all the cammy haters sit still and abuse fireball drive rush for constant get in for free cards! LMAOOOO YAL ARE BRAINLESS GOOFYS WHO ARE COPING THAT YAL GET OUTTHOUGHT AND OUTPLAYED BY BIG BRAIN CAMMY😂😂😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡. COPE MORE CRY MORE CAMMY IS THE QUEEN OF BRAINS❤️🔥💅‼️🤣
I agree with everything but Guile is the top tier flagship crayon character, you literally just described every Guile player strategy for the last 15 years, throw booms if they jump then Flash kick😂😂😂😂😂😂
I would have said that grapplers and zoners would have been in the big brain tiers only and no one else. I can understand why Jamie is in the top tier but Kimberly is nowhere near the bottom.
@@datdude15 He has CA conversions that are actually quite difficult to pull off for optimal damage. More so than Manon. He is a little harder to play in my opinion.
@@JobeLovo at EVO there were several Ed’s because the character is dog CRAP easy to play LMAOOOOO. WHERE ALL THE CAMMYS THO?? Oh YOURE CRYING ABOUT LOSING TO 1300 MR CAMMYS😂🤣😂🤣😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡
As a Lily main, I completely disagree with the notion that playing her does not require a brain. I'll explain why: * While it's true that we always hope for a scenario where we can 50/50 opponents with a windclad spire, getting there is the hard part. L wind stock has a ton of recovery, and M and H wind stock are -8 on block, so wind stocking is a risk for us in neutral. * Even if you already have wind charges, it's not a guarantee that you'll get that 50/50. Not only is one of her BnBs (s.LK, c.LP, windclad spire) NOT a true blockstring (meaning you can parry in-between), you can even jump out of the spire on certain distances, and since spire has long recovery, punish countering it is easy. * You can't raw windclad spire because not only does it lose to DI most of the time (the 3 hits rarely happen except for the OD version), its hurtbox is so big, it loses to almost anything! * Her normals are either really slow (c.LP is 6f, c.HP is 10f, etc.), really stubby (almost all her kicks are stubby), can't be special canceled (s.MP, s.HK), or all of the above (c.MP, c.HK) * Condor dive is extremely punishable * Her main weapon c.HP was nerfed and it's more punishable now on whiff * She has no OD wakeup reversal. All in all, windclad spire to 50/50 is NOT as easy as Justin makes it seem to be. All of Lily's moves are so risky that you need to think carefully which button to press just to get a wind charge, and even then, you have to make sure the spire even hits! You have to think all the time or risk getting blown out, so IMO she should be at least Big Brain like Manon.
A character's effectiveness is not the same as its ease of use. Lily is an easy-to-use character that makes up for it with her limited and predictable repertoire. Even though she is difficult to use, that doesn't mean that her path to victory is achieved through her versatility, complexity, or her demand to know the multiple aspects of the game. However, I agree that Lily is not a stupid gorilla like Honda or to a certain degree Maritza, because she must worry more about managing her resources at certain times. Still, she is a very concise character, who prefers to bet on the forcefulness of her damage.
This dumping on Dee Jay is so weird. Just because he plays fast doesn't mean he's brainless. If you have zero execution and no quick thinking you'll be garbage with Dee Jay; most likely you will play like a discount Guile. Dee Jay's normals suck big time so he has to rely on DR to get in, and of course he does a lot of damage once he's in. But most of his combos require some kind of timing, he's not like some just press buttons and win.
things about this list that are absolutely crazy: -Kimberly in "eats crayons" tier -Ed in "Big brain tier instead of rashid, akuma or aki -Marisa AND Honda being above blanka????
@@zombieeightpack1381 yeah he is, but all ed's literally use the same target combo into either lvl 2 or lvl 3. atleast with akuma there's variety (but that's becus literally all his options work). like let's not pretend ed is somehow complex... xd
@@JobeLovo Yeah cuz you at least gotta be a bit more aware, esp against certain matchups, cuz if you just play like a madman or like a Honda player you die Otherwise Akuma's kinda a braindead character yeah LMAO
“HOW DARE CAMMY HAVE MOVES IN A FIGHTING GAME🥸🤡🥸🤓” LMAOOOOO YOU CAMMY HATERS ARE THE SAME GOOFYS WHO ABUSE FIREBALL DRIVE RUSH TALKING ABOUT “NEUTRAL SKIPS” LMFAOOO😂🤣😂🤣🫵🏾🤡🤓🤡. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE LMAOOO BRO DOESNT WANT CAMMY TO HAVE ANYTHING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kizzie worried the mob will atatck him he even blurred his camera
My man is blurred cuz he be in witness protection. Gief players looking for him.
HIS LOYAL FANS
I owed classic Giefs an apology and thought he was brainded. But Cyclone is difficult to release.
😂😂 immediate snicker from what I just read🎉
Gief players dont go outside he'll be fine lol
jamie might be big brain but the people that play him feast on glue
Facts lol
Jump, palm > OD DP, random sweep, mash st HP after blocking anything - Jamie player fundamentals
**SF6 players go five seconds without shitting on every other player (DANTE MUST DIE DIFFICULTY)**
Jamie player here, true, but that's what's so special about him. I can literally just be like "wait. I'm thinking too much, lemme palm"
i hate fighting jamie, he's so draining
Still waiting for Kizzie’s camera to focus
What kind of explicit content are they blurring out?
I'm calling BS on Jamie lol those dudes are huffing dust off and throw out palms along with sweeps with no regard for their safety. Probably wear bicycle helmets IRL
Jamie's player are either Galaxy brain or crayon eater , litteraly no in between
Don't forget drive rush HP, love that move lol
I thought that too until I started playing him he is freaking hard
Capcom: Let's not give Jamie his full kit till 60% of the fight.
Community: wow I wonder why Jamie uses the same 2-3 moves. He needs to stop.
Good thing is you can bait out and punish his sweep. As a jamie player myself.
Jamie may be big brain.. but Jamie players are not.. 80% is random sweep or palm.
Let me guess, you've lost to plenty Jamie players 😂
Di beat those moves easily
@@interceptingfist5682 naaah.. I just notice the pattern.
I did forget about hp spam.
@@RuiOliveira-zm1ro why would anyone di sweep?? And I rather perfect parry palm.
@@gerzeeboi88 dont you get more dmg from a DI?
10:13 >sees Aki
>text says “Dee Jay”
“When Snake Eyez leaves his house and travel for a tournament. Thats when you know, Gief is top tier when he does that.” thats a bar if i ever heard one
why they censoring my man Kizzie
He lost his n-word pass
He’s inappropriate
I really like that "small brain" is still more than halfway up the tier list
people dropped marisa because of Akuma eats her alive with the air fireballs, and there are just way too many akuma out there
if marisa breathes on bro he instantly dies
Cammy being big brained is a meme
Just stoped at that part.
She is eat crayons as much as a character can be.
@@Iagui3cammy takes WAYYY more skill to actually WIN with, than your brainless fireball drive rush character buddy LMAOOOOOO😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Yal are lazy and NO BRAINED IF YOU HAVE A FIREBALL LMAOOOOO
Get good!
I appreciate being part of the BMP club but y'all crazy putting cammy in big brain.
they crazy for several of these picks. As far as Cammy goes tho, i think to actually be successful with her u gotta play with some brain, shes not like Akuma or Bison, that trashcans can be good with. Its people that have never really played Cammy much and have trouble with the matchup that think shes a chucky cheese character. I agree shes not top big brain tho, id put her in the mid tier where ryu is
@@nunyabizwacks6711
Saying that Akuma is more braindead than Cammy is one of the worst takes I have heard in a while.
Speaking as a Diamond Cammy, I can safely say that you absolutely cannot just mash anything. Everything she does is very deliberate in high ranks, otherwise she gets lit up hard. I strongly disagree with their Akuma rating, the dude has 10% less health than everybody, that means 10% less room for mistakes. Nah, he is definitely up there in big brain with Cammy.
I feel like if we are looking at how well a character fares in top tier gameplay and how deliberate you have to be with your moves? Cammy is definitely big brain. How many Cammy players be consistently showing up and winning tourneys. The only Cammy consistently showing up is Punk whereas you have mutliple Eds and Akumas.
@@VoiceFGC @unforgiven3035 once you get to high ranks everything is "deliberate" in the sense that you cant just mash....but I refuse to give Cammy big brain because of what even justin admits to in the video: she has incredibly privileged normals that let her press buttons with a lot more reach and safety than a lot of other characters in neutral.
Also Cammy's core design and strength ultimately boils down to whether or not she will go low forward or dive kick and that's too simple and strong a game plan.
I agree she's not eat crayons tier especially with the hurtbox on the divekick in 6 but if you think you're a big brain for throwing out those normals try walking a mile with Jamie's standing roundhouse.
I know you cover other games here but I love the more than usual SF6 coverage and the guest you been getting lately I think it’s definitely my favorite FG content wise right now.
Love seeing people take fun/meme videos so serious 😂
jamie in a nut shell: he has to give up pressure and damage to get tools that are worse than those of other characters. even at lv4 he is just a worse camy
Noah is godlike, proceeds to put a clip in there where he gets perfected. You done him dirty my man xD
i like how most of the footage was of the character their talking about losing
I dont believe cammy is big brain at all she gonna play her game on everybody dive kick jab jab spiral arrow
Cammy is the opposite of big brain😂
@@heroicsquirrel3195 totally agree. Cammy is now more footsies based. Playing good footies is not using brain power. I bet my cat would be footies god if she played fighting games and I don't think she is big brained.
You ever played Cammy at Diamond or higher? You do that, you usually get lit up very quickly... cuz it's a pretty easy counter if you look for it.
@@VoiceFGC Played against Cammy all the way up to masters and theyre all the same.
huhuhuhu spiral arrow huhuhu spiral arrow.
@@heroicsquirrel3195 COMMON CAMMY W. She takes all the brains and requires perfect execution and optimal confirms while all the cammy haters sit still and abuse fireball drive rush for constant get in for free cards! LMAOOOO YAL ARE BRAINLESS GOOFYS WHO ARE COPING THAT YAL GET OUTTHOUGHT AND OUTPLAYED BY BIG BRAIN CAMMY😂😂😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡. COPE MORE CRY MORE CAMMY IS THE QUEEN OF BRAINS❤️🔥💅‼️🤣
Did my girl Aki wrong. She's easier this season but still takes a lot of brain imo especially off stray interactions
Cammy in the same tier as chun is criminal
You’re right, cammy is WAYYYY more smarter than chun. Cammy is the hardest character in the game. You have a BRAINLESS FIREBALL DRIVE RUSH, CAMMY DOES NOT, CASE CLOSED BOT😂🤣🤡🤡
@@lamarcolvin8833 Yeah I feel like fireball driverush is way more brainless than divekick which can actually be anti-aired by players above diamond lol. And they both have blessed buttons
@@plannedtuna8293yeah these cammy haters be yapping dude LMAOOOO. They’re delusional imbeciles these are the SAME PEOPLE WHO PLAY KEN JURI CHUN GUILE DEEJAY RASHID ED ETC LMAOOOO🤣😂🤣. They constantly cry about cammy’s dive kick AND spin knuckle like they don’t want cammy to have no special moves😂😂😂😂straight GOOFYS🤣🤣🤣. So they can abuse their fireballs and bully cammy all day without her fighting back humans are not real😂😂😂😂😂
@@lamarcolvin8833 dude chuns drive rush sucks, if you’re losing to that behind a charge fireball that’s just a skill issue.
@@willkershisnik5893 that’s not the point you goofy. The point is you play a lame lazy ez mode corny character who always has a get in for free card with brainless drive rush and brainless fireball lmaooooo cope more
Dhalsim is elder god brain tier.
The rest of the cast is normal tier.
Dhalism is no where near as big brain as ppl think unless your in high level play he's cheap
@@JobeLovo Elaborate.
@@zombieeightpack1381 97 percent of players have no idea what to do against dhalism and just get cheesed unless your in high level play he's not that hard compared to ed where as soon as you get to platinum everyone knows the counter play
@@JobeLovo To be fair, they are probably evaluating this from a high-level perspective
Putting CAMMY in big brain tier devalues all your arguments and the whole video xD
kinda what I thought when I saw JP under Cammy 😂
Yeah, im not watching the rest of the video.
You sit there with a get in for free card in fireball drive rush, and have the nerve to speak on CAMMY, who basically nobody has won with except PUNK who has massive amounts of legacy skill so he’s an outlier anyway LMAOOOO. You just yapping cause you a hater and you mad cammy players destroy your BRAINLESS FIREBALL CHARACTER LMAOOOOO. “HOW DARE CAMMY HAVE MOVES🥸🤓🤡”LMAOOOOO☠️🤣🤣🤣
The Gief roasting never gets old with these too haha
I suppose I'll accept where you put Juri; she is pretty easy to pick up and play
I’m happy to hear I’m apparently using some brains maining manon and cammy, really doesn’t feel like that sometimes lol.
kimberly in crayon eating because "lol run slide" while cammy is in big brain, ken in small and rashid & guile in little brain is actually deranged. this video has to be a meme. have to just assume zykles had a huge part in this content.
Bruh….the disrespect to us Kimberly players bruh 🤦🏾♂️
Juri's 5MP is the definition of crayon eating, if that move ever gets nerfed even a tiny bit Juri is big brain
10:14 dee jay went the Michael Jackson route
I play Ryu, Cammy, Lily and Kimberly. To have Kimberly at Crayon eater is wild. Now, I'm only at diamond, but man was she the hardest character to do anything with when the opponent knew how to check her. Now I'm not saying she's big brain, but crayon eater; really?
Kimberly below any Fireball > Drive Rush character is comedy.
Her neutral is so ass.
She's gimmicky... and she can get you further in the ranks without actually being good... I think that's why she's in that place
Don’t feel bad. The community loves trolling Kimberly because she’s really annoying to play against. It’s almost impressive that Capcom managed to create a character that’s so frustrating to fight without being good.
Yeah RYU players it feels have just zero strategy or anything going on, they win off sheer unpredictability that either may or may not workout in their favor
Can't lie, I really enjoy fighting these bastards.
Rashid is crayon for sure. Hated SFV and feel like I'm playing SFV again when up against him.
He specialises in skipping neutral
Rashid’s execution makes him not braindead imo
rashid easily top 4 hardest characters rn
Kizzie on that witness protection program
As a Manon main, I couldn’t agree more. Legit playing sweaty ass chess using her lol 😂
I’m loving the content! You’re on fire!
I feel like Kimberly players are gaslit like crazy ngl, i get where he's coming from to some extent but i feel like people that do the random tp's, slides and other neutral skip dont prevail against competant players that understand the gimmicks. If more people understood the matchup and how jab beats the majority of her BS i think the perception of the character being braindead may change but i could be wrong since i don't posses the level of knowledge on the topic compared to these guys.
I feel this comment
Im getting jabbed outta all my cheesy shit in gold lol. I definitely feel like I'm munching Crayola with some of the wins I scrape out tho 😂
I think their perspective comes more from people who play her
Not only that damage output too low for too much work. Meanwhile gief can destroy in two throws.
No way Cammy is big brain, she is more flowcharty than Gief. Justin showing his huge bias.
Nobody has won with cammy at the highest level except PUNK, who a lifetime street fighter player to begin with so he’s an outlier LMAOOOO, no other cammy player has even sniffed an offline major, not even COME CLOSE, YOU JUST YAPPING BECAUSE YOURE A CAMMY HATER AND HOW DARE CAMMY HAVE MOVES AGAINST YOUR BRAINLESS FIREBALL CHARACTER 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
As Manon main, I'm proud that playing Manon is like playing like chess master. Lol
aki in tiny brain is insane
Proudly eating crayons. That was mad funny, loved it
Guile doesn’t have buttons he can spam up close without using resources to get a tick grab .most of his buttons can be DI’d in neutral.hes a read character,if you miss that AA he may die..Hes one of the few still playing street fighter while most are gliding across the stage with jab jab jab .No way you can win at high level with booms and flash kicks y’all out here cappin..I’d like to see either one of yall get to 2000 Mr doing booms and flash kicks
I don't know that I'm sold on Zangief being top 5 as it was suggested in the Zangief video (though Justin did leave that up for debate, to be fair), nut during the Guile section of tjis video, I noticed that Zangief could combo into his level 2 from OD lariat, which I didn't know was a thing (I thought he could only combo into level 3), and now I definitely see the argument for the 50/50 being heavily skewed in Zangief's favor think his tier placement here is justified. Being able to between 45 and 47 percent damage for a relatively easy combo depending on whether a person jumps or jabs is definitely a scary prospect.
This meathead is slowly learning.
Man it takes WORK to be good with Kimberly. She has to work too hard to be considered a crayon eater.
LOL
@@BanditToolsYou disagree? Lol. You think Kim is an easy character to be effective with?
LOL
@@Jack-yb8oc Ahh I get it: You don’t have an actual intelligent reply either so you decided to copy the other guy and try to be “funny”. Riveting. Let’s see how many others will be as “funny” as you and do the exact same. Very funny and very original as well.
@@orlanzo2621 Kimberly is bad, but in terms of executing her gameplan she’s very easy to play. There’s a difference between ease of use and character strength. Dhalsim is also bad, but obviously his ease of use is not even comparable.
Also I feel like this list is more representative of how **players** actually **use** the characters, in which case it makes sense she would be in crayon tier. Like, I’m 1800 MR and even being pretty far into Master Kim players are STILL just doing random slide and elbow dropping / raw driverushing every 3 seconds. If we were talking about “how hard it is to win a tournament with each character” Kimberly would be one of the hardest, but again, just because she’s bad - not because executing her neutral / gameplan is hard.
Bigbrain is 1.dhalsim 2.Jamie 3. Guile.(although in general all the characters are easy)
Jamie and Guile need to go. Guile is flash kick, sonic boom, empty jump grab. Definition of brain dead. Jamie's normals are plus even though they aren't necessarily. Drive rush, heavy punch is spammed by every Jamie known to man. Also easier to get drinks as well. Big brain is Dhalsim, Chun-Li, Aki, and JP.
I think Ryu is big brain but definitely not most of online Ryu players.
I’m so disappointed of lose in a tournament that I was in top 2. I didn’t comeback all the way to grand finals losers just to lose. I’m so disappointed
As a Marisa main, I totally agree with her placement and salute the respect y'all gave my girl LOL
Great video guys!
6:45 the triple talking over each other cracked me up lol
Justin is lowkey a silly goose 😂
Commenting on every video requesting Makoto’s BBCF combo trials, video 124.
Bison players are still in pre-k grade
I'm a plat Kim and it's so true! Because literally the only time your character is good is when you going in, so you gotta go so BMP that you go all the way around to eating crayons.
Watch guys like Shine play Kimberly. He’s definitely not going BMP lol, actually plays neutral
@@plannedtuna8293 oh hahaha I was just joking about how I think you need to be so brainy to play Kim that it turns into eating crayons because of how far into big brain you need to go, that you just end up going all the way around.
Last time I saw playrate stats Juri was the most popular in Iron and got less popular as it goes up, that’s textbook crayon eater
Dee Jay is a big brain character in terms of his toolset, but he is no-brain in that you can just do whatever and it will work. No brain until Capcom adjusts that dude further.
Scammy mains thinking their character takes skill is absolutely pitiful
COMMON CAMMY W. She takes all the brains and requires perfect execution and optimal confirms while all the cammy haters sit still and abuse fireball drive rush for constant get in for free cards! LMAOOOO YAL ARE BRAINLESS GOOFYS WHO ARE COPING THAT YAL GET OUTTHOUGHT AND OUTPLAYED BY BIG BRAIN CAMMY😂😂😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡. COPE MORE CRY MORE CAMMY IS THE QUEEN OF BRAINS❤️🔥💅‼️🤣
As someone who switched to Bison I can say
Yep
The most important tier list video
Why is Kizzie blurred cencored lmao
I'm honored to be placed low on a JWong tier list.
I agree with everything but Guile is the top tier flagship crayon character, you literally just described every Guile player strategy for the last 15 years, throw booms if they jump then Flash kick😂😂😂😂😂😂
Akis brain is at least as small as kens, come on😂😂
Justin’s blackcent Is on infinite meter no burnout
I would have said that grapplers and zoners would have been in the big brain tiers only and no one else. I can understand why Jamie is in the top tier but Kimberly is nowhere near the bottom.
Kimberly is braindead af
Putting manon that high hurt me on a spiritual level. Character is legit easiest in the game next to lilly and Honda.
Easy to play, difficult to win. That's the difference.
@@PGO_Gaming I agree but at the sametime i can say the same about honda doesnt make him any less easy to play.
@@datdude15 He has CA conversions that are actually quite difficult to pull off for optimal damage. More so than Manon. He is a little harder to play in my opinion.
Cammy being in the same tier as ed should be illegal
You’re right she’s much smarter than your brainless ED character who sits behind a brainless fireball LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Right. She so much smarter lmaooooo you abuse a fireball talking about cammy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@lamarcolvin8833 you think Ed's fireball is abusable? Cammy is insanely brain dead and has lots of abusable gimmicks and attacks
@@JobeLovo at EVO there were several Ed’s because the character is dog CRAP easy to play LMAOOOOO. WHERE ALL THE CAMMYS THO?? Oh YOURE CRYING ABOUT LOSING TO 1300 MR CAMMYS😂🤣😂🤣😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡
@@JobeLovo BUFF CAMMY YOU BOT😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
As a Lily main, I completely disagree with the notion that playing her does not require a brain. I'll explain why:
* While it's true that we always hope for a scenario where we can 50/50 opponents with a windclad spire, getting there is the hard part. L wind stock has a ton of recovery, and M and H wind stock are -8 on block, so wind stocking is a risk for us in neutral.
* Even if you already have wind charges, it's not a guarantee that you'll get that 50/50. Not only is one of her BnBs (s.LK, c.LP, windclad spire) NOT a true blockstring (meaning you can parry in-between), you can even jump out of the spire on certain distances, and since spire has long recovery, punish countering it is easy.
* You can't raw windclad spire because not only does it lose to DI most of the time (the 3 hits rarely happen except for the OD version), its hurtbox is so big, it loses to almost anything!
* Her normals are either really slow (c.LP is 6f, c.HP is 10f, etc.), really stubby (almost all her kicks are stubby), can't be special canceled (s.MP, s.HK), or all of the above (c.MP, c.HK)
* Condor dive is extremely punishable
* Her main weapon c.HP was nerfed and it's more punishable now on whiff
* She has no OD wakeup reversal.
All in all, windclad spire to 50/50 is NOT as easy as Justin makes it seem to be. All of Lily's moves are so risky that you need to think carefully which button to press just to get a wind charge, and even then, you have to make sure the spire even hits! You have to think all the time or risk getting blown out, so IMO she should be at least Big Brain like Manon.
A character's effectiveness is not the same as its ease of use. Lily is an easy-to-use character that makes up for it with her limited and predictable repertoire. Even though she is difficult to use, that doesn't mean that her path to victory is achieved through her versatility, complexity, or her demand to know the multiple aspects of the game. However, I agree that Lily is not a stupid gorilla like Honda or to a certain degree Maritza, because she must worry more about managing her resources at certain times. Still, she is a very concise character, who prefers to bet on the forcefulness of her damage.
Luke, juri and cammy should instantly be in eats crayons no arguments
Better not let punkdagod hear that
@@lampad4549ayo i respect punk and he mad skillful but he's the exception to cammy players not the norm lmao
As a juri player i agree
Doesn’t Juri have to constantly track her charges since a fireball consumes one?
@@JoeyCentral If counting to 3 is one of the harder things the character has to do, crayons is probably a good place for them.
I only disagree with Cammy because of those throw loops. Small at the least.
This was insanely funny to listen to though lol
I"m a Zangief main and I don't eat crayons. I sniff markers.
Kizzie is too sexy so youtube demonitizes the channel when they see him so he had to censor his face :(
Thanks 🎉
I’m a Ryu player. I feel mad called out 😂😂😂😂
10:14 did Deejay dirty bro
Bruh….who’s the editor?! 😂 10:14 how yall got the wrong name for Aki?!
Ken should be no brain. I dont care im sick of their random Drive impacts abd sweeps. Plus they one and done.
Almost everyone has DI and sweep so that's the player being braindead not the character
Dave "Cammy's gameplay is brainless and they all play the same pattern!" 😂
Cammy takes all the brains and all the work and that’s why she’s the exclusive queen and everybody plays your character LMAOOOOOOO😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lamarcolvin8833 Dave "I can't do anything about Cammy because I play intelligently!" 🤣
Dhalsim mentioned. Literally just mentioned lol
Juri is a crayon eater.
Ed and ahki should be higher
I freaking love the Zangief hate😂 make me wanna play him and start giving people ptsd!
Oh thats why I suck with jamie. I have a peabrain ):
Lilly vortex takes no brain, but because of her lack of defense she has to work so hard to get to the vortex.
I think shes tiny brain, at least.
How hard is it to condor spire in neutral lol
Big brain ≠ all kinds of skill necessarily. You can be dexterous in your execution but not have the best strats 😊
putting Aki next to Deejay and below Ken in terms of brain is just plain wrong…
On this weeks episode of I hate Zangief 😂😂
This dumping on Dee Jay is so weird. Just because he plays fast doesn't mean he's brainless. If you have zero execution and no quick thinking you'll be garbage with Dee Jay; most likely you will play like a discount Guile. Dee Jay's normals suck big time so he has to rely on DR to get in, and of course he does a lot of damage once he's in. But most of his combos require some kind of timing, he's not like some just press buttons and win.
Kizzie Kay is just as much of a joke as this Bogus Tier list.
Dhalsim player here, the placement is correct, that is all
things about this list that are absolutely crazy:
-Kimberly in "eats crayons" tier
-Ed in "Big brain tier instead of rashid, akuma or aki
-Marisa AND Honda being above blanka????
Okay but Akuma is actual brainrot tho lol
@@zombieeightpack1381 yeah he is, but all ed's literally use the same target combo into either lvl 2 or lvl 3. atleast with akuma there's variety (but that's becus literally all his options work). like let's not pretend ed is somehow complex... xd
Another day, another reminder that Justin and Kizzie's opinions on Gief and grapplers in general are heavily biased nonsense 😂
Kizzie drunk pov webcam
Cammy big brain is wild
CAMMY TAKES ALL THE BRAIN AND ALL THE SKILL YOU JUST YAPPING WHILE YOU ABUSE FIREBALL DRIVE RUSH YOU SCRUB MAKE IT MAKE SENSE 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🫵🏾🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Akuma is Numero uno
Ain't no way they put Kimberly in crayon eaters but not Ed😂
Ed actually plays neutral so it makes sense to me. I also don’t play either character.
@@plannedtuna8293 Kim has to play neutral with crappy buttons. Every neutral skip tool she has is checked by just pressing light punch.
@@egocentricblack3278 they dont know our stuggle, Kimberly Playerbase is know for overjumping and sprint into slide
You have to be trolling Kimberly is top 3 most brain dead in the game and ed is one of the hardest in the game according to sajam he is the hardest
@@egocentricblack3278if it's so easy to check her neutral skips why do master rank Kim's still abuse them ?
I'd say Akuma is tiny brain just because of his health but that's abt it
You think akuma Is tiny brain because he has low health ?
@@JobeLovo Yeah cuz you at least gotta be a bit more aware, esp against certain matchups, cuz if you just play like a madman or like a Honda player you die
Otherwise Akuma's kinda a braindead character yeah LMAO
DeeJay pretty big brain ngl. Just kidding. But who’s y’all top 5?
WHAT!!! MY CHANNEL MADE A CAMEO!! Dreams come true 🔥🔥
nah cammy still skipping nooch with divekick
“HOW DARE CAMMY HAVE MOVES IN A FIGHTING GAME🥸🤡🥸🤓” LMAOOOOO YOU CAMMY HATERS ARE THE SAME GOOFYS WHO ABUSE FIREBALL DRIVE RUSH TALKING ABOUT “NEUTRAL SKIPS” LMFAOOO😂🤣😂🤣🫵🏾🤡🤓🤡. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE LMAOOO BRO DOESNT WANT CAMMY TO HAVE ANYTHING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
try playing againts jamie on lower ranks (up to low diamond tbh) it's not braindead it's brainrot
No.1 no Brain= Honda