2001: A Space Odyssey #1 - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the first issue of Marvel's bizarre ongoing series based on 2001: A Space Odyssey!
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Originally uploaded October 28th, 2013.
ORIGINAL INFO: My God… it’s full of- wait, what the hell IS this?
RUMINATIONS: Let’s start with the dedication. Marcus Almand was a comic creator, fan, and friend of mine who created the book “Razor Kid,” a poster of which is featured in several of the opening credits. Marcus was also supposed to play one of the astronauts in the Atop the Fourth Wall Movie, but he sadly passed away because of cancer shortly before this episode was finished. I felt he deserved some acknowledgment, as a result.
Speaking of the Atop the Fourth Wall Movie, behold the on-screen debut of Lanipator as Allen! The first draft of the movie’s script was done by this point and one of the critiques I had gotten on it was that nobody knew who the hell Allen was, so we needed to at least acknowledge him in the show first, thus the slow build throughout the storyline until we finally see him. And of course because of who he was, the first of many Dragonball Z Abridged references with him singing “Cat Loves Food.”
This storyline is probably the most other-people-intensive storyline I’ve done, with additional actors on hand en masse - Lanipator, Will, and Amethyst of course for cast members, but then the Star Trek bridge was supplied by a fan, Michael Stutleberg, who lives in Minnesota and had a bridge originally made for fan productions in the area. It’s obviously not a 1-to-1 recreation, but it’s damn close in a lot of spots and you still can tell what it is. Filming in that was done in the previous July and it was MISERABLE. The set is stored in a shed without any air conditioning, so combine the heat of summer with a lot of lights and electronics and you can see why I decided to start stripping off garments (and not just for in-story reasons). My brother also assisted in filming shots in this, using his own phone as a camera for shots where it’s along the wall facing me. Jamie Soar (who sadly did not go credited in this one, along with Lanipator and Jackson Marriott’s fantastic sound effects library he gave me) was the one who did the instrumentals for the Harvey Finevoice Christmas album the previous year and I had wanted some leitmotif music for the show. I commissioned three pieces from him - “A New Identity,” which premiered here, and two others along similar lines. One, “Plans,” was utilized in the AT4W Movie during scenes on the Caelestis. And finally, Emily Hobbs for the animation of the battle between Vyce and Nimue. Emily in the past also created the cutaway internal graphic of Comicron One, used in both the previous storyline and in the movie. In addition, she created the metal Pollo body that Vyce possessed a few storylines ago, so it only makes sense that she’d still be contributing to it.
We also finally see a shot of the hallway leading to the bridge. I would have loved to have had Marobot do some new Bridge shots and hallways so I didn’t reuse shots I had, but he had disappeared by this point (wherever you are, Marobot, I hope you’re doing well).
The change in outfit was something I had been wanting to do for a while. Simply put, my old outfit was getting, well, old. Not just that I’d been using it for so long and I wanted to shake things up a bit, but just the fact is that even before I started wearing it for Atop the Fourth Wall, my plaid shirt was over ten years old. Areas of it were getting worn and starting to fall apart a bit, so a new outfit was necessary anyway. Taking what I learned from the past five years of wearing that outfit combination, I decided that any outfit I made would need to have parts easily replaceable as well as maybe have a version that could be ripped up and destroyed if I so chose. Thus a button-down shirt and a tie and vest (which I found a store on ebay that sold them where I bought a ton of). The jacket was made by both myself and my grandmother, so if it was ever destroyed or lost, we could make a new one, but of course it was so large it was going to be difficult to film in, so it’s really just there for storyline-related material.
Since I wasn’t ready to begin “The Sleepwalker” yet, I decided I needed another storyline in between that could fill the gap and do some hinting for the Sleepwalker, thus I decided to advance the King of Worms into a full storyline and do something with all the cybermats I had lying around. And thus begins “Machinations of Worms.”
"My plans are never stupid. Now man the helm and set a course for the sun!"
Yea, it did make sense ith an explanation, but the line still cracks me up.
and did jaeris ever throw linkara that parade¿?
You know, with Kirby's style, you would think he'd be assigned Star Wars or Star Trek-those are pretty colorful franchises.
Star Wars was actually influenced by Kirby's work. Darth Vader has many parallels to Dr.Doom and the force was modeled after the source from the New Gods.
7:24 Jaeris shouting "What?" in response to Linkara reviewing a comic book is one of my favorite jokes. And Linkara smiling like "Yep. This is a great idea," is just the perfect response
Cutting out the theme and everything.
I am such a sucker for a good fouth wall joke, and when in at4w it's exponentially funny.
Please tell me somewhere out there there's a GIF of that?
+The victorious one Certainly one of the better gags out there, and I think one of the few gags relating to the credits.
+KidSnivy69 I just want a gif of Jaeris saying he swore he wasn't going to put pants on
The victorious one Jaeris is really relateable, there was this, his own confusion about his dissapointment in moving away from the sun, and there was last episode's "aw man, I swore I wasn't gonna put on pants today".
Jaeris' face when you said you were gonna review a comic book is definitely top 5 of my favourite jokes on this show. The timing for his "What!?" was perfect xD
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It is entirely possible for a man to be enormously skilled and talented, but be totally wrong for a certain type of project.
You wouldn't get Stanley Kubrick to direct a Disney film.
You wouldn't get Miyazaki to adapt a Stephen King horror novel.
And you shouldn't get Jack Kirby to do Space Odyssey.
Considering recent events, like Linkara somehow getting married, I guess Jaeris owes him a parade at some point. Or maybe that happened during the week he was gone.
I think this was the very first time someone verbally shouted at Linkara reviewing comic under the deadly dangerous situation. Kinda amazing.
Although Liz didnt shout so much at him she did go WTF?
I am a huge Arthur C Clarke fan & he actually wrote a diary based around his work on 2001: A Space Odyssey with Kubrick. There are a lot of really interesting facts about 2001.
1) The bridge of the spaceship had been completed when Clarke visited the movie set - when asked how he liked it, Clarke remarked "it looks like the wallpaper in my local Indian Restaurant".... the bridge was ripped out and refitted the next time he showed up on set.
2) Several different shapes, sizes and texture monoliths were tried for filming including pyramids and spheres.
3) The song "Daisy Daisy" being sung at the end my Hal9000 is a reference to the first song his is taught during the book DESPITE this teaching happening in the movie.
4) The space pod from 2001 actually appears in The Phantom Menace... though slightly disguised.
I squeal every time I hear Nimue say "You are *tiny*." My favorite moment in the entire review~
"I've got a meeting about a spaceship to Jupiter...". Oh my, that was foreshadowing the movie years in advance!!! Now that is awesome.
My god, this is it... the beginning of the "Vest era!"
But its not gold.
More like the “Best era,” amiright?
"Lemme know when you get a girlfriend, I'll throw you a parade." So, about that parade?
While I admit I kind of prefer the classic outfit, I do like the new one. Besides, now if we ever get that Channel Awesome fighting game, now we have a modern and classic skin for Linkara. XD
Just wondering: am I the ONLY one who thinks Linkara's new outfit looks like something the Doctor would wear? I'm not complaining as I love the Doctor, but I am curious.
***** fair point.
+David Spring I personally got a Ben Franklin vibe from it
I personally think it's an amalgamation. It has a bit of Dr. who (specifically ten) but i feel it has a bit of tombstone wyatt earp in there as well (or any wild west sheriff).
I thought it looked like an alternate color scheme of Alucards outfit in Hellsing.
You're not alone.
Every time I watch this episode, I get a certain Doctor Who-vibe in general from the storyline-bit:
-confidence in a plan that seems insane without explanation
-Linkara getting bored and doing something else while waiting
--Linkara turning Nimue back on reminded me strongly on the 11th Doctor unleashing the TARDIS_matrix on house in "The Doctor's Wife"
-the choosing of a new outfit feels a lot like a Doctor choosing one post-regeneration
Jaeris is like... just the best character XD I like how crazy everything Linkara does seems to him.
...remind me to never piss of Nimue or become a data construct around her, in either order.
Sorry for the passing of your friend.
Since 2001 is my all-time favorite movie, I've always been curious about the Marvel series. Your review has increased my curiosity immensely. Keep up the good work, Linkara!
How Vyce was defeated reminds me of how Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls was defeated.
This review was years before the final episode of Gravity Falls. I'm just saying.
It’s sort of a trope. Not an entirely COMMON trope, as the way it’s handled tends to be a little more cerebral than most media is willing to go nowadays, but it’s still a trope.
The bit that comes to mind is how Mab is defeated in the Merlin tv series, but I know I’ve seen it elsewhere
Skits like the beginning of this video are great. Even with your low budget its still engaging because of the story you tell and the dialog characters say, which actually does a lot to prove you know what your talking about when reviewing these comics
"My plans are never stupid. Now set a course for the sun!!"
18:31 It was not by his hand he was once again given flesh.
It was brought here by humans, who wish to give it tribute
I must say, voice-over acting of Nimue is just perfect during this storyline. It catches every emotion remaining this cold, robotic feeling. There is madness, fear, anger and cold calculation... just perfect! Congratulations :)
*listened to how vice and nimue were fighting for control, and vice tried to kill her but didnt*
Spoiler
Fox: Linkara predicted age of ultron
7:16 - Jaeris's face XD. I did NOT expect however that he'd INTERRUPT the theme song!
Didn't also expect the battle between NIMUE and Vice to be animated, but still, NIMUE being able to beat Vice is BADASS, Especially when she tells him " *_Are you afraid_* ?", using his words against him.
I didn't know you had a brother and it's neat that your grandmother also helped with the new coat. I thought you had made that all by yourself. It's like you're whole family has helped in some way to make the show. It's nice and makes me think of the dress my grandmother made me when I was little and when my mother said she wanted to listen to my show and told me that she was proud of me.Also, this is the storyline that made me start watching AT4W and then go back and catch up on all the plotline videos (not really into western comics). I started watching AT4W episodes on and off sometime during the Gunslinger arc (the advertisement special with douchey), but never quite fallowed the show until this plot line. I'm looking forward to more and it's always cool to see your thoughts on the episode and storylines.
While I never knew Marcus Almand, I figured I would pay my respects to Lewis Lovhaug and the people who worked on the episode. R.I.P.
Will's facial expressions and snark delivery in this episode just crack me up. Bless that guy.
I always love Linkara's expression at 35:17. It's somehow both epic and hilarious at the same time.
The film's craftsmanship attention to detail really is astonishing and it works remarkably well on that front even today. I literally only just now realized that the reason the space stewardess wears that goofy Spaceballs hat is so her (presumably long) hair doesn't fly everywhere during zero G.
the confrontation between nimue and lord vice was fucking awesome
"This unit will end you!" Is such a great one liner
Nemowe went badass in this. Awesome! "You are...tiny"
Serves Vyce right for what he did to nimuwe. It was so satisfying what she did in the climax.
Hey Linkara, maybe you should do a Jack Kirby focused episode, kind of like March Of The Titans.
To anyone wondering, the dramatic space theme song you hear everywhere is actually called "Also sprach Zarathustra"made in 1896.
ahhh, this episode. I may not like this particular arc (I'm not sure why, though except for maybe the "Insane rogue AI" cliche), but I LOVE this finale. It's so AWESOME! It does the cyberspace battle fairly well, but it also give me a GOOD reason to be kinda afraid of Nimue without being an "insane rogue AI" cliche.
also, I love Nimue's avatar.
...Does kinda make you wonder something: Is the theme song in Linkara's head?
Hey aliens! Why'd ya build a structure on an asteroid? *Aliens*: .....Boredom. ....yeah, sounds right.
A couple of quibbles about the description of the movie:
1. The 1:4:9 dimensions of the monolith get emphasized over and over in Clarke's novel... but the monolith prop that appears in the movie doesn't actually have those dimensions at all. It's considerably longer and thinner-- 1:4:9 would have looked more squat and brick-like. As filmed, the monolith suggests a door, and also the super-wide dimensions of the movie screen, both symbolic connections that I'm sure Kubrick was going for deliberately. So Kirby's weird, squat, crumbly stone monoliths were even further off than Linkara suggested.
2. It stands to reason that the crewmembers in suspended animation would know about the true mission of Discovery, and, again, I think the novel might have said that... but if you listen closely to what Heywood Floyd says in the video that HAL plays as his last dying act, I think it implies that they weren't briefed either! Only HAL knew what was going on.
The first appearance of the new outfit, and it is _awesome_!
+TPrower Clearly, this is where the show started going downhill.
+Zachary Amaranth EVERYTHING WAS BETTER WHEN HE WAS WEARING MYYYYYYYY OUTFIT!!! /SuperboyPrime
Brandon Minich That needs to be made into an image of some sort.
I wonder what Kubrick would have thought of these comics?
While I admitted that I found the "Ghost in the Machine" storyline to be just okay, I will say that I was impressed by the "auxiliary control" center set or rather as Jeris put it, "the bridge from Star Trek". Being a fan myself, I couldn't help but smile. Plus, that interruption from Jeris during the beginning of the theme song, after hearing what Linkara was going to do, (what he always dose) basically review a comic book while they were constant peril, was priceless LOL!!! I'm shocked that he didn't add "You really are insane!!!"
Just read the descriptions, all is right in the world, also awe your grandma helped make your coat, that's so cool!
You get the sense their really close. Its so sweet!
7:10... that was the most complicated setup I've ever seen. LOL.
*The following is a fact that a Salty SEAGULL named EARL (who just shows up in my posts whenever he feels like it) wanted to point out!*
[EARL the Salty SEAGULL:] 27:41 - "In SimEARTH the Monolith is a tool that helps animals evolve into intelligent lifeforms! With it you can make a race of sentient Dinosaurs (the non-avian kind), birds, even Dolphins!"
Linkara: Where ever you are Vice I'm ready for ya
*Across the world*
Vice: WHAT?!?!
I love the reactions other characters have to Linkara continuing to review comics during life or death situation.
At least he's not playing musical instrument, a la Emperor Nero.
Wait Vyce said he kept transferring enough of himself to take over the ship. Does this mean the previous Poyo body still has a tiny fragment of his digital essence?
So much work is put into making the Star trek bridge, i am impresed. All the effort impessses me. It shows what a person can do if they love their work. AND I LOVE THE NEW COSTUME! IF that thing does not wave on the wind like a cape, i will be disapointed.
Jaeris will always be my favorite supporting character on this show
What a fanTASTC episode! I pretty much cheered and/or laughed the entire way through the plot stuff (Star Trek bridge! Nimue is back! Nimue kicks ass! Awesome new outfit!)
"Direct descendant"? Wouldn't *everyone* probably be a direct descendant, then? We only have to go back about 100 generations from today to find a common ancestor of everyone on Earth. Then again, I guess it didn't specify that he was special or the only direct descendant...
When I see the new outfit, I see it as an alternate color scheme to Alucard's outfit from "Hellsing"
This is the weirdest regeneration scene yet. Who changes their outfit without changing their face first?
Awesome! Both review and finale of this storyline. It was a huge enjoy watching it. Thanks a lot for uploading it to UA-cam cgannel!
Take a drink every frickin time Linkara says "Monolith"! Don't do it with hard liquor though! I won't be responsible for any deaths that occur!
And this is the same comic that gave us Machine Man. Needless to say, my first reaction to reading that in the Marvel Encyclopedia was a big "wa da Flying Ugly Chicken Killers?"
Originally uploaded October 28th, 2013.
- It's hard to believe that it hasn't been that long since you changed your outfit. 2 years, and yet...it feels like it has been ages ago. I don't know why, maybe its because you have done so much by now (more storylines and the movie) or so much has happened to TGWTG (don't need to get into it) but it feels like it has been ages since you did this. Maybe its also because I started my live reads a few months after this (One of wich is Sailor moon t) but...its just feels like it is has been longer than it has been. And what a great ride it is!!
I agree with Alan, new suit looks really nice :)
Jarrus' face and reaction to "I am gonna read a comic book" still kills me. grade A acting
'We're turning away from the sun!........why am I upset about that?"
Man, the show was so much better before Linkara changed outfits*. Not only his new outfit doesn't match up with his channel avatar,** but he lied about switching hats!* Also, what is up with Pollo? He used to be the crowning achievement of makeshift props, but now that he has a new outfit he thinks it's "not good enough" for him anymore, so he has a more "professional" one. And what in the hell is up with the goddamned riffs? He is clearly only doing it because Doug did That Guy Riffs, and don't even get me started on the shelves, instead of getting rid of them, he added more! Worst of all, he had the audacity, the NERVE to start another Let's Play?! What, was reviewing comics not enough anymore? He is obviously trying to cash in on the Let's Play business. What a sellout.**
*I actually love his new outfit and I remember being excited as hell while waiting to see it being revealed for the first time. Although, for some reason I kept imagining it being a green coat like Linkara 2099.
**my only legitimate criticism, but that's due to to my OCD.
***I know he couldn't find a top hat.
****making footnotes is fun!
I enjoy the TOS bridge sounds so much that I'm frankly surprised that I haven't filled my living room with consoles.
OF COURSE MARS IS GATE TO HELL AND JUPITER IS A GATE TO HEAVEN
God I forgot how intense this arc's finale was.
35:17 the best shit eating grin I've ever seen
New outfit? Well as long as his wall stays the same colour, I guess its okay.
Jack Kirby: writing fanfiction before it was cool. Or perfected.
Ah, Vice. while technically you always were a little near Khan, this episode pretty much was your 'Perdition's Flame' rant.
Hey wait a minute... Linkara has a girlfriend... where was Jaeris with the parade?
Hm. We don't really don't think about how far ahead the plots are planned.
Also, the reveal of Auxiliary Control is one of my favorite moments on the show.
The flame's been burnin' since the world's been turnin'.
The Most epic Animation, in this Episode.
I could listen to Vyce's voice all day.
5:24 did you ever get that parade?
wait, if beast killer is that old, shouldn't all of humanity be his descendant anyway?
Well..if there's another guy who hunts alone...we call him That-Other-Guy-Who-Hunts-Alone
Yep.... Nimue can indeed still be terrifying when she wants to.
Wait why does the caveman call the beast a SABER-tooth if his people haven't invented swords yet?
I love NIMUE's revenge in this episode.
this just became my favorite episode but i still love the Entity storyline. the animation is okay but it's sooooo enjoyable. And also, HOW FREAKING LONG IS THIS STORYLINE!!!!!!!!
FalkirkGamerHD 176 episodes.
You should do a retrospective of Jack Kirby
35:16, if that's not a troll face to Vise, I don't know what is
You should do a retrospect on Jack Kirby
39:40 - 41:18 Linkara regenerated! (I guess...)
Read the Ruminations. You don't know what Marobot's doing either? Huh.
Am I the only one who would pay good money to play a session of dnd with linkara DMing?
I don't care.... I love Kirby's 2001. It's an entirely different thing than the movie, but got dang.... Kirby's just being Kirby. How can I hate it? Personally, if I were to rate things, the movie would be first, the comic second and.... sorry, Clarke... the book third. I love Arthur C. Clarke, but his book lacks the spectacle and awe of the other two versions. But honestly, I look at Kirby as kind of having a few elements from the movie, and taking that and running with it. I just wish he was able to use Metron and the monolith in the same comic.
Linkara, it is possible that the fire is being fuelled by the back up oxygen they brought. Or by the atmosphere still in the ship.
actually I think I would like 2001 a space Odyssey more if it was like this comic, it would be like Yor: the hunter from the future
As for the 2001: A Space Odyssey Comic, I actually think it's better than the movie (I know big surprise) because like with its sequel 2010: The Year We Make Contact, someone decided to write a script this time around and not to be vague and mysterious for the sake of it. I can respect what Jack Kriby was trying to do by tying in the theme of evolution more in with the characters than just the devices we create such as how we went from a club to a highly advanced computer. However, I will agree that they should have hired an artist to better match the style of the movie like Lewis pointed out.
2001: Space Odyssey is not a slow movie. It is a glacial movie.
I just realized the beginning of Xenosaga is based on 2001 after you described the plot
Thanks to the TFS podcast, I get the whole joke of Lani's cameo.
Never mind.
Your fast food places thought was hilarious! They don't mention he was translated from cave man ese? Treat it like a companion? Have it haul all his crap and be a damage sponge? Maybe the flames are using AIRosol? 😂
-Spoilers-
"there's one port ya didn't close, Vicey-wicey~ I didn't DELETE her, I simply shut her off!"
Vice: No...
I dunno why but I couldn't help but laugh at the way he was dismayed.
Start is slow, end is weird, middle is awesome.
5:24 he's overdue on that seeing as you're married now lol
I'm curious how you made the auxiliary control room. Also did you ever get that parade now that you're married?