(DRG) "The C4 cheese" The BEST way to get easy industrial sabotage clears
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- This strat is not mine in fact I learned it from a random on a industrial sabotage mision, I'm uploading it because there are not many videos covering it on youtube and many players don't know obout it yet
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For the record fatboy works almost as well as the c4 for destroying the vents but the engineer doesn't have as many options as the driller for destroying the bots and dealing with the hacks. as long as the driller uses his flamethrower he will be the best for this mission
But if I brought fatboy I can't bring hyper propellant...
It's great for caretaker eye hits and instantly deletes patrol bots.
My preferred engie primary is Lok-1 with explosive rounds and the electro generator and rounds mods. Bots don't like the shock status and its usually simple to get a 3 lock and aim up a bit to curve the shots into a patrol bots head, also great for caretaker arms as the Lok-1 locks on to their weakpoint naturally. Its honestly a toss up if I take fat boy or hyper propellant on sabotage since I can handle either the vents or eyes with the Lok-1 and let the PGL handle the other. Lok-1 with explosive rounds is also great on swarm control for hack defenses
I learned the cheddar version of this cheese, using an engi’s platforms to get over the caretaker with a lower risk of falling and not needing a resupply and a half of drill fuel or so much time spent staring at the map.
This guide is more for those situations where you don’t have an engineer in your team
But yes having an engineer makes this process 100% more efficient
@@solaireofastora6173 Fair enough. Rock and Stone!
Inge can just nuke them
what overclock do you use
@@KeravnosPrime me? You can use whatever you want as long you take all the heat upgrades
Don't forget when you have your laser printer out you can press e to way point a spot. This way point is marked on your map and pings when you pull out your laser pointer again. It makes drilling to a specific location fast and easy.
some 30 hours in and I did not have any clue, thank you
Ohhh that’s how you set the waypoints
Your C4 build causes the resupply to round down and only give 1 charge each resup for whatever reason.
What this means is per +50% resupply, you can deal 625 damage, but if we use the extra ammo, we do 375 x 2 damage which equals 750 damage, meaning, if you want good damage along with added flexibility, go with extra ammo since the carried amount is 4, meaning you get 2 per +50% resupply instead of 1.
If you want max damage, very specialised for Sabotage, do the build (3/1/2/3). This makes the damage 875, which is even better per resupply than full ammo.
I much prefer full ammo because it allows for flexibility, along with "Rock Mover" in tier 4, it allows for a decent offensive ability and an amazing defensive ability as well.
So, in short, the build (2/1/1/3) allows for flexibility, and the build (3/1/2/3) for a more specialised use.
Yep, you basically have to choose between full ammo or full damage. I prefer the latter as it can take down dreads faster, only having to get up close to them half as many times, but either config is viable.
Shame resupplies don't keep track of your half-ammo; I might take the middle-ground config otherwise.
@@tobz1000 I find it mainly good for the 3 prongs the hiveguard has, needs the extra reach but its nice. Love the c4 jettyboots shenanigans.
this got changed in the november maintenance update
@@supersharkboiii1449I was looking for someone to say this, been playing driller with a similar build from the video and always get 2 charges from resupplies
@@dennisv1882 yeah, and also the three satchel charge setup now has the most damage per resupply due to this as well
I learned the cheesecake tecnique (i named it) where you use the mole overclock for gunner
Step 1: ask your local engie to make a 6 or 8 platform tall pillar
Step 2: Standing on top of the pillar make a lot of little holes with coilgun
Step 3: shot trough the pilar aiming the caretaker
Step 4:(optional) you can try to oneshot any nearby scout
very gud 👍
got mole this tuesday and immediatly signed for elimination. i tore off a third of an haz3 hiveguard with a single shot. engie was even kind enough to make me a cheese stack before popping. good day
Im wondering why you need to make little holes from above the "cake"?
This is solo
fun fact: you don't need to be on top of the caretaker. If you get the larger radius upgrade, you can consistently harm it from the center of its base platform.
But it's risky, cause you can get damaged from barriers or electro-shock
@@vladimirchizhov3260 electric shock takes a few seconds to start, so, you have a bit of time
Its not risky, I do it all the time without getting shocked. All you need to do is sprint
@@DOOM_Dwarf then its just time consuming if you are not fast enough. But, ehhh, i think it doesnt matter that much
@@vladimirchizhov3260 time consuming, unlike drilling a long tunnel/spamming platforms to get on top
EL CUIDADOR - Just the same robot, but this one has a Mexican sombrero and a well groomed moustache!
Saludos, Piedra y Roca!
The PD2 music never gets old
best thumbnail ive seen in years
and the payday 2 music is awesome too
Fun fact: since the breach cutters plasma waves cut through the caretaker, if you get on the same height as the open vents and spam your breach cutter it can take out as much as 3 vents at once. Since engi can platform up and get close to the vents, it’s a really good strat.
I found the damage was lackluster because even traveling the same way it's spinning, not a lot of time they damage it
Is there a way to slow it down? I know there is also an over lock that spins it, so that might provide more damage
@@jonothanrennert3098 spinning death causes the projectile to spin and basically stay still. So yes, spinning death would work well in this case. The only problem is spinning death results in a lower dps, so while you may do more damage in total it will take longer to deal that damage.
PGL also hits all the vents at once. Don't have the OC, but Fatboy would deal more damage than satchels shown here, with more ammo.
This is one of those hidden tricks I like to do, but now you've revealed it to the world!
Current sabotage missions are shorter, they changed the cave generation and both power stations are now closer to caretaker unlike before where you had to travel much longer distance to do them.
I remember doing this strat a few weeks back, and I'm glad to see that now more people know about it.
Driller is the best class for sabo yeah,
22132 fuel stream disruption on crispr
21222 peristent plasma on plasma charger
3123 for c4
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The above build allows you to walk though turrets while holding m1, rush hacking pods, deal with bots and shreaders without issue, and lets you solo the fight with c4ing the vents, igniting the arms, and using thin contsinment feild against the eye
Take tier 1 radius and tier 3 damage. A single satchel at the base 1-hits all 4 vents.
Didn't know you could do that, neat!
Also HELL YEAH for having Evil Eye on in the background, respect! :D
I find the clean acid OC sludge pump deals with payrol bots and the caretaker arms the best. Though leaving you with a primary that can deal with the caretaker eye. So I usually run support for the team dealing the c4 cheese to the armor phase, craretaker arms and patrol bots. Secondary is the epc with the normal shot OC with burning nightmare.
already seen in action and been busy spreading it ever since. ROCK AND STONE!
I run double ammo upgrades so I can get 2x satchels per resupply, also once you have your access tunnel you can just literally jump on top of it and flame the heck out of it if you are in a team with an engie or gunner willing to help you get down quickly.
Wooow!!! I didn't know this tatic, i'll tell to my friends to make in the next run. Thank you so much!
I run sludge pump with infinite range overclock this is going to be beautiful.
i once did it with one of those flying manta rays by rideing it to get above the care taker
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My brain auto corrected dwarf on the thumbnail
Now I finally know why every other driller in sabotage was drilling to the ceiling and putting my resups there...
Noone ever explains what they were doing just "you will see" and then I never saw it happening. All they had to do is say they're going to put C4 on the caretaker's head man.
With the increased AOE of the c4 you can place it at the bottom center and still work
tbh the hacking pods are the main reason why we dislike this assignment so much...
Clicked for awesome thumbnail.
funny trick you can do is if you have a team doing the eye killing phase. you can just lob HE grenades above down the middle and it'll drop through the caretaker to deal damage to it. it's a nice combo aiding the team while not having to worry about going up and down the hole between phases
Not sure about this when not solo, but Fat Boy can also 2 shot the vents (& I think engi is generally better at dealing with the caretaker)
everybody has better chances than driller against the caretaker. all of his primaries are AoE/status effect based weapons, and none of those affect the caretaker
The real cheesy part is that "El cuidador" LMAO
nice thanks for sharing :)
You can also used Turret EM discharge on the engi in the same way. Both very handy 👍
I had this idea the 2nd time when we got low gravity and rocket boots, afterwards I was sad I couldn't do it again but connected the dots halfway through the 3rd run
wow i already discovered this technique independantly
i thought i was just pissing about
Praise the sun!
I should mention something:
-If playing on Haz 4 or harder *and* with 4 people, the C4 must be specced for all damage, which means only carrying 2.
-You do not necessarily have to do this from above the Caretaker, you may also do it from below if you throw it high enough. Dash can help you get in and out.
-If taking only one extra damage upgrade instead of 2, the C4 won't quite kill the vents, but it will be very close.
I saw a dude do this in a mission and I was thinking why had I never thought of that
pro tip: in C4 upgrades you can bring 2 more ammo so that when you resupply you get 2 C4 instead of 1
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payday music 👍
I tried this many times after seeing multiple people do it, but I just can't get the c4 placed right? Or smth else? I do little dmg whether it's laying on top or variable heights above >.< Meanwhile I've seen people do it with 1 c4 instead of 2
Alternatively you can get a gunner to shoot you a zip line above it, or a engy to platform. Either way still gonna want to make a little room up there
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Nah, you don't even need to do that. You can run through the bottom, place a c4 a bit above the tip of the caretaker, and cheese it that way. Just have an area made for all the resups
Engineer can also do this with the fat boy OC on the Deepcore
Yes, it’s a pretty good cheese. Quite soft, not too chewy, yet very firm over the edges. Although *sniffx3* it smells like fried circuits and burnt plastic for whatever reason. But, *lip smack* the hint of *smacks lips again* very fresh granite in its taste more than makes up for the peculiar smell. 8/10. Hopin’ management puts it on the menu.
I dispise the Caretaker, but now I play driller on every Sabatoge mission for this reason
engi can do this too but with plasma burster - solo haz 5 you just need 3 grenades to the top to break all weakspots - just stand on one of the openings where normally a tentacle comes out of, throw 3 plasma burster and then nuke the eye with 2-3 hyperprops to complete an entire phase in under a minute. with 1 resupply you can do the entire caretaker in 2-3 min
The people dont like this mission because in a 4 man haz 5 this strat is way less effective, the weakspots & eye have twice as much HP
If your c4 radius is big enough you only have to throw some about caretakers eye level.
No digging above or engineer plats or anything.
Why do you bring extra damage when you use 2 C4?
I recommend picking up the backup batteries after you disable them, as they do about the same damage to the caretaker. Good if you're engi.
The way that hitboxes can't be relied on made this hard to understand until actually seeing it in practice, when you might have tried it before and it didn't work you might've just somehow did it wrong like me
I always bring Fatboi & Lures to finish industrial dogshitage as fast as i can cuz i hate it. i mean who wouldn't after being spammed 7 times in a row on deep dives.
Are you sure you shouldn't take ammo expansion in tier one? If you have both ammo upgrades, you will be getting 2 c4's from each resupply
Might need the AOE increase to hit the spots.
It sounds counterintuitive, yes, but the damage really makes the strat work. I run all damage on my C4, because on a hazard 5 with 4 people it takes all of your satchels to get the vent phase done, due to health scaling. It’s better to just have a dedicated build for Industrial Sabotage, as you’ll also have to take care of the robots and a heat build is the best option. The Sludge Blast overclock is also a great option if you wanna take on the Caretaker’s eye phase as well, just be wary of other robots.
@@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 you still can hit all the corners without the upgrade (I did it several times)
You either go full damage (875, 2 charges) or full ammo expansion (325, 4 charges) to get the best supply efficiency.
@@llmkursk8254 Since they buffed how much heat they take, I find everything I'm about to overheat a robot they die from damage anyway lol
Payday music
I used my c4 for the scout
I feel like poeple forget the fact that the engineer can do it more efficiently by just going full ammo fat boy and just nuking the head, each resupply gives you 3 warheads back which is enough even in 4p haz5 while also helping in clearing shredders. You dont even need to take the blast radius upgrade.
did this in a match with an engie using the fat boy oc. incredibly silly gaming ensued (the caretaker did not find it silly and in response, blew itself up)
What build are you using? I think maybe this could be optimized into a 1 hit
On haz 5, it still takes 2 c4. I don't remember how much volatile compound helps, but I always run that with volatile and call in a resupply behind me to get the total of 6 c4 needed
@@zayneschmitt7935 it shout oneshot the vents solo, if I remember correctly.
@Даниил Шитушкин on haz 5, 4 player. 1 C4 with volatile does 2/3 of vent health
aint no way!
I much prefer an engi with fatboy but this strat is doable by even new players
I wouldn't even really call this a "cheese" since it takes a resupply's worth of c4 every time you do it, plus you could easily do this with fat boy.
Payday Music + DRG Gameplay is affecting me in some kinda way...
Or clear it faster with hyper propellant
ctrl+e
I've always used this tactic, just wish my goddamm teammates wouldn't start the fight before I dig my tunnel!
This should also work for the fatboy right?
Because of that I usually do the tunnel at the start and yes this works with fat boy but I think you need more bullets
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Impossible to pull off with randoms
What is the C4 upgrades?
They’re at the end of the video
How fast do you complete the entire misson?
It took me around 20 min in solo… But most of that time was expended searching for nitra and connecting the hacking devises…
If I had a teammate that could help me out in those task the mission would have take around 13-16 min
@@solaireofastora6173 want a team mate?
Bro you shouldn't use this, you gotta save your c4 to kill the scout. Jkjk
engi's fat boys works to
You can also just shoot the enemies in the final room and then focus on the eye.
The mission isn't even close to hard unless you just shoot the caretaker and ignore everything else.
This didn't say it was because it's hard. It did because it takes a long time and the last fight can be annoying.
I'm glad we have a pro like you here to teach us how to play the game properly though.
The caretaker is the simplest thing to deal with in the whole game, it just takes so f-ing long it's just infuriating.
The only mistake you make is not keeping the ammo close to yourself, nor above the "repulsion walls". More players is usually slower, because now you need to blow through more HP, and usually most players don't do anything during the vent stage. I almost always have to just solo it.
All this does is waste a ton of time to perform the easiest part of the encounter.
Completely useless.
Man someone sure is grumpy. It helps lessen ammo usage and makes it an easier time. It doesn't increase any time cause the driller should already have It prepped from the start. Don't get why you think it so useless.