Update! Update! Apparently the company listened to our concise now Gen 3 ships with aluminum-backed plates! And the gigantic disk is gone from the handle. Please watch Episode 1 as well. Let the community know if you have any questions and suggestions! Torque units are in-lbs.
Love your level of detail in the video that covers the 8 things to look out for before sharpening with the Xarilk Gen3! I am just getting around to stepping up my sharpening game and appreciate your honesty and thoroughness - I'm convinced that for my use - my kitchen knives - the Gen3 will be perfect. During my research I came across another youtuber, Neeves Knives. When doing his video on the Xarilk Gen3 vs the Kadet Pro he found that the knife clamps for the TSProf Kadet/KadetPro fit the Xarilk Gen 3. He also reported that by putting the two clamps on the Xarilk on one side can result in a different angle when you flip it to sharpen the other side, and that using the TSProf Single Clamp may be a better solution if doing lots of small knives. He also suggests adding a pair of TSProf rod stops to limit the travel of the sharpening rod. Placing one between the pivot bearing and the stone will reduce the chance of injury, though not likely with the Xarilk guard, and placing the other stop on the other side of the pivot bearing minimizes the assembly from scratching the knife.
@@gene1951 Neeves is affiliated with TS Prof and makes 7-10% commissions from the links provided in his video. I turned the same offer down, have emails to prove this, and when I asked TS Prof if they could pass the savings to my viewers, they started pretending I no longer exist.
Thanks for all the details you went into. My Gen 3 should be here later today and I’ll set it up according to you recommendations. Also, that edge was impressive. RS
So I just got my gen 3. You will be happy to know a couple things have been changed. No more round hand guard. Will now sit on a table and stay. Also backer to stones on mine were all aluminum. No plastic like before. Seems they listen to complaints.
This is a cool sharpener, but seems complicated and more appropriate for an engineer (such as you🙂). There is no doubt that it can do a great job in the right hands. For me, not an engineer, my Work Sharp Precision Adjust, even without modifications, does a really nice job. It is fun to use, and has minimal frustrations. It probably has a lot to do with edge requirements and specifications needed by the user. Thanks for showing this to us. I never fail to learn something.
Thank you for the detailed info you are giving us about this knife sharpener, I am in the market for one and because of your videos I am inclined to purchase the XARILK Gen 3, however I have not been successful finding specs to what is the widest opening of the blade clamps, the biggest knife I own is a KA-Bar Becker BK7, the spine is 0.188 mm (+ or - 1/4") I would like to know if it will fit inside the blade clamps. Thank you
@@mitchelmichiels6952 I address this in this in omen of the two videos about Gen 3, either here or in this one: 8 must-do’s before you sharpen even a single blade on XARILK Gen 3 fixed angle sharpener. ua-cam.com/video/zbQPANCAKJo/v-deo.html
I examined all 3 TS Prof sharpeners at a knife shop in Maryland that is their authorised dealer. Without actually sharpening a knife, all I can say is: TS Prof Pioneer and Cadet come pretty close to this sharpener in quality of assembly. I don’t think XARILK is much better than the TS Pof so if you don’t mind the price…
@@suorento7k the tablet is iPad Pro Max The microscope is here: This one works best for filming amzn.to/412ZozQ And if you need one to look at the edge you can use the one that has its own screen amzn.to/412x7cS
I've found on my diamond plate stones that even though you don't have to wet the stone I find it helps prolong the life to moisten the surface with water and a little dish soap which provides enough lubrication to keep the diamonds from breaking off the metal plate My stone progression if the bevel has already been set is 600, 1000, 1500, 2000, 3000 followed by fine and extra fine ceramic and then onto two strops with 3 micron and o.5 micron diamond emulsion. If a reprofile is needed I start with a 180 and 240 grit and then the others. I've found that using more stone equalizes the wear on all the stones.
I what are the best diamond stones in your estimate. I want long life. I want to buy once and not twice. Thank z you. Love your modifications. Thank you.
Yeah I agree the finger guard rolling around is annoying. It needs to be removed le as imo it doesn't need to be there. They should include two travel stops so that newbis can't fall off the stone or push in to far and cut them selves. I communicated with them when they sent me a text unit telling them to include included two travel stops, I don't know if they are going to include one in their next revision or not but it would really help the system overall and make that annoying finger guard no longer of need.
Get your self a couple of split ring drill stop collars and a couple of light short springs that fit the rod, that will solve the issue of falling off the stone. The spring will cushion the over travel stop you have set. Maybe future generations of this sharpener will include such items but if not it is easy to remedy on your own. The reason I suggest the split ring collar is to avoid a set screw mark on the smooth rod finish.
@@wayneanderson991 I freaking hate that when I get complacent & thwack the plate off the edge, especially on a 1000 grit or higher. I'll be looking into that. Thanks man!
@@lewjac3 it’s in the first video already: 8 must-do’s before you sharpen even a single blade on XARILK Gen 3 fixed angle sharpener. ua-cam.com/video/zbQPANCAKJo/v-deo.html Thanks for subscribing!
@@CuttingBoardRxIt is still not clear. No one on the internet has explained this clearly. Please explain the geometry. I like the use of your diagram. If the back of the plate is at zero degrees and the measured angle on the rod says 15 degrees. Why isn’t the measurement of the angle 15 degrees on that side. 2nd item nuclear centrifuge, 0.0005. As a Satellite Engineer 0.0005 will miss the earth from a satellite 25,000 miles from the earth. That’s what I do for a living, point satellites. 😊😊😊
Nice over view of the Xarilk gen 3 sharpener. I have a wicked edge system and am currently looking for an additional fixed angle sharpener. The Xarilk and the Ketiped professional knife sharpener have my attention at the moment, both of these seem to offer good value and functionality. I did find some inexpensive diamond stones on amazon that look promising for use on these fixed angle sharpeners, it's the10pcs Diamond Knife Sharpening Stones sets with aluminum backed diamond plates Kit for RUIXIN PRO RX008. This stone set has an aluminum backing plate instead of plastic and offers a nice mix of abrasive grits. When the abrasive wears out you could replace the diamond plate with say a piece of leather to make your own strop, or mount a piece of balsa wood as stropping material etc. The Xarilk has a stone compensation feature so different media thicknesses is not an issue for maintaining the correct angles. To deal with the Xarilk brand plastic stone backing flexing, I would think you could find a weaker spring at the local hardware store that would be more appropriate in spring tension for the provided stones in the Xarilk system. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series, Thanks!
@@MrBearbait75 I don't like having to purchase proprietary stones when they wear out for one. Next is the ability of the Xarilk style systems to handle longer blades with better support at the tip, especially thin blades. And because the stones for the Xarilk type sharpeners are wider you have more control of the stone when approaching the tip to avoid rounded tip issues. This takes greater care with the wicked edge system IMHO. The Ketiped system would allow easier sharpening of long serrated bread knives and similar type blades because the elevation head can travel along the length of a blade giving you strait access to each individual serration. I like to sharpen things for my self, family and friends. I have a shop full of sharpening equipment. This is just one of many hobbies I have. Hope that answers your question.
When needed, I'll go over the plates with a soft eraser to clean out in-between the diamonds. I don't think it looses any. They shouldn't & if they do, then those free-range diamonds aren't damaging my edge.
14:50 I like use the ceramic from the Worksharp, freehand to help remove stubborn burrs along the edge or just a specific spot, or a ceramic honing rod. 18:45 That sound, the feedback I can feel from here lol. GET THAT BURR! 🥵 17:14 that has happened to me a couple times where the bevel was uneven because I had the blade set in the clamps unevenly, tilted up or down, whichever it was it doesn't matter in the grand scope of things, it was off, ever so slightly. The spine design is something to look at when clamping. Ooopsy 21:58 I was looking away when I heard you say you tightened it up to 27-1/2 ft/lbs. Foot pounds, on this thing? Nevahhh 🤣. We know you meant to say 2.3 ft/lbs 😉. Machinist, mmm tailings, hard soled boots & anti-fatigue mats. Standing around watching things spin 🙃. Good video man! I'm still wondering why you took a level reading off the base plate though. C'est la vie. May be some advanced chit my 146 IQ hasn't reached yet. Cheers! like this needs more 😅 I loved the close ups. I'd like to see what stroke pattern you use. Some people say to go in one fail swoop, others straight back n forth & some like making small 'loops' where you grind forward & come back straight, rinse & repeat.
@@Rottidog68 Yep, I used 25 in-lbs. Fixed it the best I could. Hey, I machined 96” long aluminium pats with +/- .005” tolerances on a 1970-ies machining center. On Cincinnati Milacron 10HC the vertical table only goes to 90” so much setup experience, burns, splinters and sweat. But the mat helped!😂
@@Rottidog68 it was a cardboard box printer ink tank with a craaaazy bolt pattern not to mention all the mounts for the proportionate valve manifolds… I bet the company was losing money on this because it had a 6hr program on one side, then I flipped it over to the other side for a 4.5hr runtime, then the day shift came in and machined the ends. 6 setups about an hour each, 22 hrs total for one tank. And the programmer had a tendency to forget that drills must be retracted before traversing the to the next hole! I had choice words for this fathermugger! Bosses f-n son. Made me wanna stay in school. I was 24 and so I slept 4 hours a day. Night shift 7 days a week, $12/hr base pay plus overtime, plus Saturday and Sunday pay? I was raking it in, brother!
@@CuttingBoardRx Thanks for the noghtmares of working at that age. Go to the bar Fri night, come home & roommate gets home 2 hours later after I fell asleep & he brings people for ' a few drinks'. 5AM I decide it's a good idea to get an hours sleep before OT in 3 hours. A delayed hangover is not a good thing! In coveralls, welding hatsills to 6x4 tubing with vertical uphands. Each weld takes about 4 mins. I'm sitting in a truss jig thats attached to a huge platform & 6 2 tons jacks to press the hatsills etc & hold everything in place. I'm sitting there, earplugs in, helmut down, nice n warm welding these slow ass welds.... Zzzzz Zzzzz Zzzzz then I wake when the wire sips over the steel, flip up, look. oooo nice weld! But man, waking up feeling OK only to feel like I was ridden hard & put away wet 3 hours later, horrible! Never doing that again.... 'till next weekend, anyway.
Could you not just zero out the angle cube on the base plate or right on the table and then place it on the stone holder right on top of the stone and use that reading?
Sorry to be the one who lets you know but its an I incorrect statement,Sir Watch @Outdoors55 video at about 7 : 28 mark. ua-cam.com/video/3L6_CTMdDOk/v-deo.htmlsi=SyV18adyOrLedVXr Thanks for bringing this up though.
Update! Update! Apparently the company listened to our concise now Gen 3 ships with aluminum-backed plates! And the gigantic disk is gone from the handle.
Please watch Episode 1 as well. Let the community know if you have any questions and suggestions! Torque units are in-lbs.
I just saw this about the torque specs. Ooops, already razzed you about it 🤣.
Love your level of detail in the video that covers the 8 things to look out for before sharpening with the Xarilk Gen3! I am just getting around to stepping up my sharpening game and appreciate your honesty and thoroughness - I'm convinced that for my use - my kitchen knives - the Gen3 will be perfect. During my research I came across another youtuber, Neeves Knives. When doing his video on the Xarilk Gen3 vs the Kadet Pro he found that the knife clamps for the TSProf Kadet/KadetPro fit the Xarilk Gen 3. He also reported that by putting the two clamps on the Xarilk on one side can result in a different angle when you flip it to sharpen the other side, and that using the TSProf Single Clamp may be a better solution if doing lots of small knives. He also suggests adding a pair of TSProf rod stops to limit the travel of the sharpening rod. Placing one between the pivot bearing and the stone will reduce the chance of injury, though not likely with the Xarilk guard, and placing the other stop on the other side of the pivot bearing minimizes the assembly from scratching the knife.
@@gene1951 Neeves is affiliated with TS Prof and makes 7-10% commissions from the links provided in his video. I turned the same offer down, have emails to prove this, and when I asked TS Prof if they could pass the savings to my viewers, they started pretending I no longer exist.
Thanks for all the details you went into. My Gen 3 should be here later today and I’ll set it up according to you recommendations. Also, that edge was impressive.
RS
Your friend should really appreciate that really nice edge you put on his blade!
Excellent as always!
0.05% variation is less than I expected actually… very good!
@@TimsSchoolOfFish i was also surprised
I did all the tightening and when I flip knife it's always few degrees off trying to fix it.
@ When that happy, try unscrewing the clamps with the blade still attached to them flipping the whole thing around. It may stack up differently.
So I just got my gen 3. You will be happy to know a couple things have been changed. No more round hand guard. Will now sit on a table and stay. Also backer to stones on mine were all aluminum. No plastic like before. Seems they listen to complaints.
Loved the scope shots. Great job on that scary sharp edge!
This is a cool sharpener, but seems complicated and more appropriate for an engineer (such as you🙂). There is no doubt that it can do a great job in the right hands. For me, not an engineer, my Work Sharp Precision Adjust, even without modifications, does a really nice job. It is fun to use, and has minimal frustrations. It probably has a lot to do with edge requirements and specifications needed by the user. Thanks for showing this to us. I never fail to learn something.
I love your microscopic images. Can you provide a link or description of it? Looking for one to inspect knife edges.
@@tom_schroeder Best bang for your buck:
amzn.to/3V3mx1f
Thank you for the detailed info you are giving us about this knife sharpener, I am in the market for one and because of your videos I am inclined to purchase the XARILK Gen 3, however I have not been successful finding specs to what is the widest opening of the blade clamps, the biggest knife I own is a KA-Bar Becker BK7, the spine is 0.188 mm (+ or - 1/4") I would like to know if it will fit inside the blade clamps. Thank you
@@mitchelmichiels6952 I address this in this in omen of the two videos about Gen 3, either here or in this one:
8 must-do’s before you sharpen even a single blade on XARILK Gen 3 fixed angle sharpener.
ua-cam.com/video/zbQPANCAKJo/v-deo.html
You give good details in your video. Have you had any experience with TSProf sharpeners, enough to know how this sharpener compares?
I examined all 3 TS Prof sharpeners at a knife shop in Maryland that is their authorised dealer. Without actually sharpening a knife, all I can say is: TS Prof Pioneer and Cadet come pretty close to this sharpener in quality of assembly. I don’t think XARILK is much better than the TS Pof so if you don’t mind the price…
Thank you. What is the make/model of microscope and make/model of screen/tablet?
@@suorento7k the tablet is iPad Pro Max
The microscope is here:
This one works best for filming
amzn.to/412ZozQ
And if you need one to look at the edge you can use the one that has its own screen
amzn.to/412x7cS
I've found on my diamond plate stones that even though you don't have to wet the stone I find it helps prolong the life to moisten the surface with water and a little dish soap which provides enough lubrication to keep the diamonds from breaking off the metal plate
My stone progression if the bevel has already been set is 600, 1000, 1500, 2000, 3000 followed by fine and extra fine ceramic and then onto two strops with 3 micron and o.5 micron diamond emulsion. If a reprofile is needed I start with a 180 and 240 grit and then the others. I've found that using more stone equalizes the wear on all the stones.
But will it keeelll?😆
I what are the best diamond stones in your estimate. I want long life. I want to buy once and not twice. Thank z you. Love your modifications. Thank you.
Yeah I agree the finger guard rolling around is annoying. It needs to be removed le as imo it doesn't need to be there. They should include two travel stops so that newbis can't fall off the stone or push in to far and cut them selves. I communicated with them when they sent me a text unit telling them to include included two travel stops, I don't know if they are going to include one in their next revision or not but it would really help the system overall and make that annoying finger guard no longer of need.
Great recommendation! What was your overall impression of the system?
Get your self a couple of split ring drill stop collars and a couple of light short springs that fit the rod, that will solve the issue of falling off the stone. The spring will cushion the over travel stop you have set. Maybe future generations of this sharpener will include such items but if not it is easy to remedy on your own. The reason I suggest the split ring collar is to avoid a set screw mark on the smooth rod finish.
@@wayneanderson991 I freaking hate that when I get complacent & thwack the plate off the edge, especially on a 1000 grit or higher. I'll be looking into that. Thanks man!
I ordered 2 stops from TSPROF kadet. I like the big round safety stop, if your hand slips for any reason, ouch what a mess.
About sharpenining angle. Try to zero on rod and then put inclinometer on that square and rotate knob
ua-cam.com/video/KWlu90thA9E/v-deo.htmlsi=xlhRYTSACV2PJlEl
CBRx, Did you move on from the Worksharpe Pro fixed angle sharpener?
I would appreciate it if you would go into detail on how to use the angle finder to get the angle you want.
@@lewjac3 it’s in the first video already:
8 must-do’s before you sharpen even a single blade on XARILK Gen 3 fixed angle sharpener.
ua-cam.com/video/zbQPANCAKJo/v-deo.html
Thanks for subscribing!
@@CuttingBoardRxIt is still not clear. No one on the internet has explained this clearly. Please explain the geometry. I like the use of your diagram. If the back of the plate is at zero degrees and the measured angle on the rod says 15 degrees. Why isn’t the measurement of the angle 15 degrees on that side. 2nd item nuclear centrifuge, 0.0005. As a Satellite Engineer 0.0005 will miss the earth from a satellite 25,000 miles from the earth. That’s what I do for a living, point satellites. 😊😊😊
@@CuttingBoardRx no offensive , no detailed instruction how to find the correct angle
Nice over view of the Xarilk gen 3 sharpener. I have a wicked edge system and am currently looking for an additional fixed angle sharpener. The Xarilk and the Ketiped professional knife sharpener have my attention at the moment, both of these seem to offer good value and functionality. I did find some inexpensive diamond stones on amazon that look promising for use on these fixed angle sharpeners, it's the10pcs Diamond Knife Sharpening Stones sets with aluminum backed diamond plates Kit for RUIXIN PRO RX008. This stone set has an aluminum backing plate instead of plastic and offers a nice mix of abrasive grits. When the abrasive wears out you could replace the diamond plate with say a piece of leather to make your own strop, or mount a piece of balsa wood as stropping material etc. The Xarilk has a stone compensation feature so different media thicknesses is not an issue for maintaining the correct angles. To deal with the Xarilk brand plastic stone backing flexing, I would think you could find a weaker spring at the local hardware store that would be more appropriate in spring tension for the provided stones in the Xarilk system. I'm looking forward to the rest of this series, Thanks!
Wayne, serious question: if you have a wicked edge what is the purpose of another fixed angle sharpener?
@@MrBearbait75 I don't like having to purchase proprietary stones when they wear out for one. Next is the ability of the Xarilk style systems to handle longer blades with better support at the tip, especially thin blades. And because the stones for the Xarilk type sharpeners are wider you have more control of the stone when approaching the tip to avoid rounded tip issues. This takes greater care with the wicked edge system IMHO. The Ketiped system would allow easier sharpening of long serrated bread knives and similar type blades because the elevation head can travel along the length of a blade giving you strait access to each individual serration. I like to sharpen things for my self, family and friends. I have a shop full of sharpening equipment. This is just one of many hobbies I have. Hope that answers your question.
@@wayneanderson991 It does help. Thank you for such a detailed response? Blessings
When needed, I'll go over the plates with a soft eraser to clean out in-between the diamonds. I don't think it looses any. They shouldn't & if they do, then those free-range diamonds aren't damaging my edge.
14:50 I like use the ceramic from the Worksharp, freehand to help remove stubborn burrs along the edge or just a specific spot, or a ceramic honing rod.
18:45 That sound, the feedback I can feel from here lol. GET THAT BURR! 🥵
17:14 that has happened to me a couple times where the bevel was uneven because I had the blade set in the clamps unevenly, tilted up or down, whichever it was it doesn't matter in the grand scope of things, it was off, ever so slightly. The spine design is something to look at when clamping.
Ooopsy 21:58 I was looking away when I heard you say you tightened it up to 27-1/2 ft/lbs. Foot pounds, on this thing? Nevahhh 🤣. We know you meant to say 2.3 ft/lbs 😉.
Machinist, mmm tailings, hard soled boots & anti-fatigue mats. Standing around watching things spin 🙃.
Good video man! I'm still wondering why you took a level reading off the base plate though. C'est la vie. May be some advanced chit my 146 IQ hasn't reached yet.
Cheers!
like this needs more 😅 I loved the close ups. I'd like to see what stroke pattern you use. Some people say to go in one fail swoop, others straight back n forth & some like making small 'loops' where you grind forward & come back straight, rinse & repeat.
@@Rottidog68 Yep, I used 25 in-lbs. Fixed it the best I could.
Hey, I machined 96” long aluminium pats with +/- .005” tolerances on a 1970-ies machining center. On Cincinnati Milacron 10HC the vertical table only goes to 90” so much setup experience, burns, splinters and sweat. But the mat helped!😂
@@CuttingBoardRx 90" travel... talk about rinse & repeat! AND keeping within +/-. 🤮
@@Rottidog68 it was a cardboard box printer ink tank with a craaaazy bolt pattern not to mention all the mounts for the proportionate valve manifolds… I bet the company was losing money on this because it had a 6hr program on one side, then I flipped it over to the other side for a 4.5hr runtime, then the day shift came in and machined the ends. 6 setups about an hour each, 22 hrs total for one tank. And the programmer had a tendency to forget that drills must be retracted before traversing the to the next hole! I had choice words for this fathermugger! Bosses f-n son. Made me wanna stay in school. I was 24 and so I slept 4 hours a day. Night shift 7 days a week, $12/hr base pay plus overtime, plus Saturday and Sunday pay? I was raking it in, brother!
@@CuttingBoardRx Thanks for the noghtmares of working at that age. Go to the bar Fri night, come home & roommate gets home 2 hours later after I fell asleep & he brings people for ' a few drinks'. 5AM I decide it's a good idea to get an hours sleep before OT in 3 hours. A delayed hangover is not a good thing! In coveralls, welding hatsills to 6x4 tubing with vertical uphands. Each weld takes about 4 mins. I'm sitting in a truss jig thats attached to a huge platform & 6 2 tons jacks to press the hatsills etc & hold everything in place. I'm sitting there, earplugs in, helmut down, nice n warm welding these slow ass welds.... Zzzzz Zzzzz Zzzzz then I wake when the wire sips over the steel, flip up, look. oooo nice weld! But man, waking up feeling OK only to feel like I was ridden hard & put away wet 3 hours later, horrible! Never doing that again.... 'till next weekend, anyway.
Where the 18 degree coming from ?
As this Xarilk is Kadet-inspired they should also copy kadet-styled rod parking system
Could you not just zero out the angle cube on the base plate or right on the table and then place it on the stone holder right on top of the stone and use that reading?
@@rebel1851 That doesn’t work for this sharpener
25-27 inch lbs rather than ft lbs?
@@Brian-rj5rl oh, crap! Misspoke!
I made the correction
Inch pound torque, not foot pound on the screws at 5:53
I made the correction. Thanks!
“Stupid comment deleted” I stand corrected ☝🏼
Sorry to be the one who lets you know but its an I incorrect statement,Sir
Watch @Outdoors55 video at about 7 : 28 mark.
ua-cam.com/video/3L6_CTMdDOk/v-deo.htmlsi=SyV18adyOrLedVXr
Thanks for bringing this up though.
@ outdoors is where I got the info.. I think I may have just misunderstood your prompt. I’ll delete it so it doesn’t sit there looking stupid 😂
@SuitAndTieGuy88 we are all learning from each other!
@ love our community. Most other communities would have been angry at my comment but with us, we learn and grow!
It is actually fascinating how chineese guys trying to modify and upgrade things they don't understand but copied from real engineers work.
🤔That makes zero cents 😎