Dr. Peterson does not take interview recommendations from the comment section. He talks to people he has made a connection with. And no amount of yelling at him in the comment section is going to chance that. Just so you know.
@@afringedgentian5426 the actual probability that peterson might see your comment, i actually believe, can be expressed as a percent integer. Hes emphasized several times how often he reads these, and it's also obvious youtube is his most dominant presence. You never know.
Thank you again, Dr. Peterson, for being a treasure to the western world; while most other media are covering inconsequential nonsense, you always have insightful talks with guests on issues that truly matter and need urgent attention from our governments.
@@charlesrhodes1089 it went well for the NSA still is, its just not going well for the people because of clueless business suits like this quack named: Chris Olson
This is exactly the problem with the moral outrage on the right. An overreaction "for the betterment of society" that leads to authoritarianism. Slippery slope and all that.
All the doctors need to go back to paper forms. Too many old people answer calls and emails thinking it's their Dr. Because they are forced to create online accounts and complete web forms.
Jordan, you wanted an interview on 'online crime and criminals'' and Chris has a very specific expertise and interest related to protecting his customers that are major customer facing internet services . I think this subject needs further interviews.
We need to narrow the definition of cyber crime. In Australia today this includes exchanging info that the current government does not. Like . So it is best to name the crime and in this way allow for clear cut accountability. If I believe an online ad claiming that drinking rosemary tea helps against covid it’s my business, not of police. That’s very different from someone stealing an ID
I was just now listening Eliza Mozal, in some her video...I listen it as MP3 She said people think that if they will do inner work and they find a "shit" about themselves that its a wrong thing and that they are going backwards. she said no, its actually a good thing, the nutrients from the shit needs to be used... "shit" has to be processed and released. 😄
Great conversion, but one consideration is that scammers can and do innovate without hindrance, whereas gov policy takes months or years to change. Stripping away privacy to better identify scammers would last all of 10 minutes before the scammers adapt, while citizens are left with the consequences of widespread surveillance.
Excellent timing as always. Yes, the Internet absolutely needs that tactical persuasion within reason. Start with disabled veterans and work from there...
50:41 Internet Providers should be on this. Social Media. Online sellers. I don't shop on eBay any more after not getting what I ordered a couple times in a row. Used to save money, now it's throwing money away. 3rd party sellers on Amazon 0/2 or Walmart 0/2 online. Fail. 1:10:10. I don't buy from 3rd party sellers anymore. Amazon , keyboard, not properly wrapped, broken. Shipping=cost. Cycling shoes, road not mountain. Shipping to china $80. Walfart: brother, AC not working My friend, single mother bought a computer for son. Arrived with a password. Useless. They sent her another computer after she threatened to sue them after giving her the run around for 9 months.
Digital security ID sounds like a Gulag. Scientists & technology have literally removed what humanity is and now we've reached the place that to be "safe" we must have a digital ID and pay lots of money so we are protected. THANK YOU EXPERTS & THANK YOU HIGHER EDUCATED FOOLS
I'm serious when I say we need an internet bill of rights. Too many people's livelihoods are dependent on protecting their online presence and when we treat protecting people online as an afterthought, we're actively contributing to real harm
As someone who works in the cybersecurity half of online safety (I secure big business assets), this was a lovely conversation! It reminded me why I love this field and the reason why I do this work. We don’t talk enough about the human side of these scams! Stay vigilant everyone; It’s very dangerous out there!
Very interesting and insightful discussion Dr. Peterson. And welcome to San Diego BTW, as a native I want you to know how very welcome you are and how honored we are to have you as our guest.
I think that opening statement speaks volumes everybody’s walking around with a spy in their pocket that is spying on them, but yet we can’t solve these unsolved mysteries, daily, reoccurring unsolved mysteries
Kudos to JP for asking good questions. Unfortunately I find the responses vague and abstract. And I have multiple cyber security certifications. So if you don’t understand this guy, don’t feel bad.
This guy brought up some questions I hadn't thought about before from that angle however he seemed to place people in the victim needing a savior mentality. If there's reform needed in the digital space, it's not going to come from government, but from being more transparent so the consumer can make better choices and actually making healthier local communities is the root problem causing people to rely on digital ghouls to replace real relationships. We need to go back to having better families and communities again. This internet scams are symptoms of a much deeper problem. The need for real healthy human communities. Online will never replace this.
I completely agree. Most "solutions" offered lean towards enabling this octopus mentality that was fostered online: anonymity, disguise, and continual, general distrust. It's unhealthy and dehumanising. I believe the solution lies in taking a step back, and we will head in that direction organically, no matter how much pressure or how many algorithm-based enticements are set out to keep us trapped online.
It sounds like many of these problems would go away if we stopped tracking people online... Maybe outrageous marketing profiling is causing all this? How about banning that too?
30:05 What he’s suggesting seems very dangerous to me. It sounds like he is suggesting we seize and institute a capture and tracking mechanisms into any structure or system that a criminal could conceivably use. By Law. By Courts. By Police. The issue of course is that we use those Systems. By all means, if a Company or Organization wants to set up a System that way and discloses it. Fine. It’s Search and Seizure, and there are good reasons not to structure a Service or Architecture to actively store and keep those records. If you don’t keep Sensitive Data, it cannot be taken. Ever. Even as Tech advances. Obfuscation serves as the number one form of Safety from all manner of targeting. If I’m transporting a locked case in my trunk, and I do not know it’s contents, that is a fantastic way to never know them. If my delivery destination is transmitted more and more accurately as I travel, then erases itself from the receiving device, that is great defense. And it’s legally protected as a means of self defense. Great op sec. If you compromise that Service you are doing 6 things not legally allowed, and compromising the Market and Service of Security offered per say. The means of doing this as proposed is everything. That’s why, even if a Company Advertised that it kept immaculate Records, and looked through everything to make sure you are getting taken advantage. And of course submitting anything at all sketchy or suspicious to the Police is a not a great pitch. Either for children or elderly. Because every single one of those things is an attack vector.
This was an eye opening conversation into how widespread the problem is. And it easy to hypothesize on how bad things could get in no time. A good antidote to this problem might be creating a secure environment for individuals prone to predation, to foster the critical awareness needed to see these dangers. Foster this awareness by gamifying the opportunity of distinguishing between the safe and the dangers. You could do this in a game-like virtual place. A Good, fun, simple videogame could teach people all the online skills needed to be safe.
I get at least two spam calls per day. I doubt that any of the pretty young single women that want to be my friend are young single women. I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for spamming.
It’s a game.. I see people laughing all the time because they know what they are doing and who they are doing it to. I believe what could possibly be of help, might be, to get a phone that has no internet access. Gives piece of mind to the elders and younger’. I’m getting ready to try myself for certain transactions. Thanks for having me.
A very close person was heavily damaged by cyber crime in all kinds of ways. And needless to say, there is almost no protection or justice to be found for the victims from the banks and police. It was heartbreaking to go through this with my dear person, to witness how, what they thought was true, crumble like a card house and realizing they were heavily scammed. Especially older people need to become well informed by their grandkids, kids etc, the younger generations aware of these scams.
Freedom in this age is Questionable, Including Server abilities to pickup any individual and take there Devices under there Control especially by downloading apps that identify there Devices as actual Developers and control advertising that can be Profitable to there own Business.
How do you give this information to someone whose hands are glued to their phone? I have tried for 4 years (since mid-2020) to tell people to leave social media and to only use the phone when they absolutely have to because of all the tracking and tracing. Now this? More reason to ditch the phone and stay off certain platforms. Thank you!!! 🤗
“I’m looking for someone other than my wife, someone other than my wife. Ashley Maddison’s just right!” I remember even as a kid thinking, “This is a messed up commercial.”
It’s always interesting to hear people operating in such niches. It is tempting to assume the world is the way it is because it is, but no, it doesn’t plunge into chaos because of the people like this.
26:52 Yeah well when grandma finds it necessary to mention how houses were 20,000 dollars when she was looking to buy them. All I can think to ask is What do we say about the victims of inflation?
Had no idea there was such an epidemic of 70-something seniors getting scammed on dating sites. I assumed most people born in that generation wouldn't even be technologically literate enough to turn on a computer, let alone navigate a web page.
I'm almost 60 and grew up with computers (from 9th grade on)..... I had computer literacy courses at university, every job I've held required computer skills. Lol.
An interesting suggestion: impersonating the scammers. Olson mentions impersonating victims, elderly grandmas etc., in order to entrap predators. What if we did the opposite, impersonating scammers - and when susceptible people fall victim to the scam, you educate them on the mistake they made so they can learn and have a second chance
The guilty will say, when caught, that they were just trying to educate the person, not scam them. Being often in India and other foreign countries, we really have no legal recourse against them.
Nobody wants to fund that because it isn’t very scalable. A scammer can have many victims but with your approach you’re only saving 1 person at a time.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582Doesn’t even have to be a government project, I might volunteer to do it just for fun, idgaf. And the impact of scamming one person is that their whole family knows about it and maybe others - scamming and educating someone could really educate dozens of people in that case
Many times a scam is going to entice people based on their own greed or vice. Perhaps if people were more interested in the pursuit of virtue they could avoid a large percentage of scams. I once saw a guy that gave out his bank account information to a guy that claimed to be a Nigerian prince who was promising a fortune in return… 🤔 Maybe encourage them to invest more in studying the Bible. They would have learned the love of money was the root of all kinds of evil.
Hey Jordan. I love your work and the depth you bring to conversations about almost any topic. There is one impediment I would like to suggest for your consideration, which I also believe will greatly assist with your wrestling with God and His word. Evolution is not congruent with God’s word. For you to consider.
Dearest Dr. Peterson, my review of your Boston lecture is out today from Wrong Speak Publishing, entitled “For the Glory of God: An Evening With Jordan Peterson.” You might like it, and then again you might not, because there isn’t anything in it for you to be grumpy about. Except I tease you a little bit but you will see it’s the spirit of play. And I did say that you are an absolute sweetheart in person, because you are, and that might ruin your reputation as a curmudgeon, but that’s the way it is. And if you do like it, if you could please share it, it might help expose my work to paying editors who might like to have me write for them and that would be helpful. But only if you find merit in my work. With Ruth Anne’s love
Jordan, this topic is so crucial, and the theme of victimhood spreads so deep! I was visiting a local police station in S.A.: In the cue infront was this African grandma.. Shame, she was a victim of cyber theft. Now, couple the real victimhood experienced from the internet with the victimhood narrative systemic from S.A.'s political past, the cyber reality aggrivates people like this grandma, preventing her from overcoming this whirlpool of victimhood. Thank you for making more people aware. Do you think that, in the future, the public can hold company leaders that has a monopoly on these "cloud space" information-generators more seriously for such crimes? Can they be held accountable? Should they be held accountable?
Is seems to me that making a billion fake personas and making it unknown who is real and who is not is one way to mix it up. The other would be to make a program for total restart. Something that would pretty much wipe me off the web once a year when you get a new device...if everyone in the u.s. did this it would be mayhem for anyone to track.
I've started asking callers if they are a recording. If it's a recording, they keep talking and I hang up. If it's a person, I find that They will hang up. They hear "recording" and get scared. It's fun
If companies like this can find problems and then correct them, why can't they simply make changes to the original internet code to make such infractions incapable?
Jordan is correct in the assumption of live events.....that's where the money will be if you're a skilled musician worried about AI taking your profits.
Scams appear very legitimate; not all are apparent phonys. Have you ever received an email that stated there is a problem with your delivery? The ones I have received copied my exact order, the logos of the company, all the information was there.
19:02 How is this not described as digital stalking? Deliberate deception, concealed monitoring and targeted directly to the individual. Depending on what videos are provided to the algorithm, it could cause untold damage to the mental health of the target.
What if a 3rd party collection business is fake and you even receive court summons which none of that is verifiable before officer hand you the summons. Most will make the payment.
I appreciate the guy trying to simplify it to theft but the reality is these people are being convinced to send money by their own choice so are wanting people to have freedom of choice or freedom from choice. The reason it happens is because of ignorance which happens in more places than the internet
I work in financial crimes and scammers are going to get better and better with AI. Haven’t watched the whole thing yet so not sure if it is mentioned, but the newest pain in our ass is that scammers are recording our voices from social media videos we post then use AI to call grandparents and ask for money. It can be anyone really but they target the elderly. We’ve come up with stupid code words that we’ll use to know that it is really us speaking haha. Knowing how your family members speak is a good way to know if it’s fake or not. We usually know certain words and phrases we like to use.
Street crime is far less of an issue today than it was when the US first developed and engaged with streets. The internet is just over 20 years old - it's a wild west full of crime currently.
@ mikekane2492 the comments I described are fear based. There are legitimate criticisms presented in this talk but I'm not referring to most of what was presented.
@@afringedgentian5426 I'm aware of that book I believe and it's similar, but more realistic, than sci Fi movies. I'm a software developer and data scientist and literally create AI for one of the largest tech companies in the world. I know what I'm talking about.
A simple, though partial solution to the shedding of digital parasites is use of anonymization (multiple accounts, temporary accounts, obfuscation, etc.) rather than forcing everyone to present her real name and image. Forcing people to expose their real identity exposes the law-abiding to more visibility that ne'er-do-wells could use to better target potential victims. One solution could be custodial anonymization, anonymization as a service (AaaS) if you will, one of the key value proposition of cryptocurrency.
Ever thought about doing a monthly Q&A again like the old days? 🙏
Jordan, may you PLEASE speak with Hans Zimmer about story telling in music?! 🎶
And Ramin Dijwadi
that would be most interesting indeed
Dr. Peterson does not take interview recommendations from the comment section. He talks to people he has made a connection with. And no amount of yelling at him in the comment section is going to chance that. Just so you know.
@@afringedgentian5426 YA NEVA KNOW
@@afringedgentian5426 the actual probability that peterson might see your comment, i actually believe, can be expressed as a percent integer. Hes emphasized several times how often he reads these, and it's also obvious youtube is his most dominant presence. You never know.
Thank you again, Dr. Peterson, for being a treasure to the western world; while most other media are covering inconsequential nonsense, you always have insightful talks with guests on issues that truly matter and need urgent attention from our governments.
I shared this with all the seniors I know. Thank you as this is such an important podcast topic
How long will it take for the digital police force to become the ministry of truth?
Herein lies the problem. Do we want a lawless wild west or a safe tyranny? I genuinely don't know if that's better.
@KorriTimigan how did that go with the NSA?
@@charlesrhodes1089 it went well for the NSA still is, its just not going well for the people because of clueless business suits like this quack named: Chris Olson
This is exactly the problem with the moral outrage on the right. An overreaction "for the betterment of society" that leads to authoritarianism. Slippery slope and all that.
@@KorriTimigan Wild West. Freedom before and above tyranny.
All the doctors need to go back to paper forms. Too many old people answer calls and emails thinking it's their Dr. Because they are forced to create online accounts and complete web forms.
Jordan, you wanted an interview on 'online crime and criminals'' and Chris has a very specific expertise and interest related to protecting his customers that are major customer facing internet services . I think this subject needs further interviews.
Excellent topic. Thanks for educating us. Wonderful!
We need to narrow the definition of cyber crime. In Australia today this includes exchanging info that the current government does not. Like . So it is best to name the crime and in this way allow for clear cut accountability. If I believe an online ad claiming that drinking rosemary tea helps against covid it’s my business, not of police. That’s very different from someone stealing an ID
What kind of freedom do you want, freedom of choice or freedom from choice, both are still freedom but served up differently
No, the latter isn't freedom.
@@Madonnalitta1 how so?
If you have no choice you have no freedom
Let's start your debate with respect for each other Sir.
@@vickieandrew1010everything I type is with all due respect and best of intentions
Jordan Peterson should be mandatory listening lol seriously. This should be on TV for the sleepers
Takes all kinds
Sleepers?
I was just now listening Eliza Mozal, in some her video...I listen it as MP3
She said people think that if they will do inner work and they find a "shit" about themselves
that its a wrong thing and that they are going backwards.
she said no, its actually a good thing, the nutrients from the shit needs to be used...
"shit" has to be processed and released.
😄
Great conversion, but one consideration is that scammers can and do innovate without hindrance, whereas gov policy takes months or years to change. Stripping away privacy to better identify scammers would last all of 10 minutes before the scammers adapt, while citizens are left with the consequences of widespread surveillance.
Excellent timing as always. Yes, the Internet absolutely needs that tactical persuasion within reason. Start with disabled veterans and work from there...
As a cyber security student I enjoyed this conversation
As a scammer and digital predator, I enjoyed this conversation
Why you studying to be a criminal?
Ethne techne are sub humans
Ban social impact bonds crypto and ESG
Hashtag no Dilbert
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Excellent timing.
Give them hell fire!!!!! Worst wordy wordy. Ya know
Those who compromise freedom for security deserve neither - Benny Franklin
I would love to partake in this endeavor. I prefer truth and logic over profit. Any form of profit.
Thank you for your work, Dr. Peterson!
Hello Mr Peterson .Like To Meet You One Day .All The Best
Thank you Dr. Peterson!
50:41 Internet Providers should be on this. Social Media. Online sellers.
I don't shop on eBay any more after not getting what I ordered a couple times in a row. Used to save money, now it's throwing money away. 3rd party sellers on Amazon 0/2 or Walmart 0/2 online. Fail. 1:10:10. I don't buy from 3rd party sellers anymore. Amazon , keyboard, not properly wrapped, broken. Shipping=cost.
Cycling shoes, road not mountain. Shipping to china $80.
Walfart: brother, AC not working
My friend, single mother bought a computer for son. Arrived with a password. Useless. They sent her another computer after she threatened to sue them after giving her the run around for 9 months.
Thanks for the wakeup on cyber crime. There's countries that have schools for cyber crimes.
Digital security ID sounds like a Gulag. Scientists & technology have literally removed what humanity is and now we've reached the place that to be "safe" we must have a digital ID and pay lots of money so we are protected. THANK YOU EXPERTS & THANK YOU HIGHER EDUCATED FOOLS
I respect this man, Chris Olson... Thank you very much.
I'm serious when I say we need an internet bill of rights. Too many people's livelihoods are dependent on protecting their online presence and when we treat protecting people online as an afterthought, we're actively contributing to real harm
You are awesome.
What a crazy world that we are going to live!
As someone who works in the cybersecurity half of online safety (I secure big business assets), this was a lovely conversation! It reminded me why I love this field and the reason why I do this work. We don’t talk enough about the human side of these scams! Stay vigilant everyone; It’s very dangerous out there!
Very interesting and insightful discussion Dr. Peterson. And welcome to San Diego BTW, as a native I want you to know how very welcome you are and how honored we are to have you as our guest.
I think that opening statement speaks volumes everybody’s walking around with a spy in their pocket that is spying on them, but yet we can’t solve these unsolved mysteries, daily, reoccurring unsolved mysteries
Kudos to JP for asking good questions. Unfortunately I find the responses vague and abstract. And I have multiple cyber security certifications. So if you don’t understand this guy, don’t feel bad.
Seems to be painting the idea for the motive to be and do good. For his main priority.
This guy brought up some questions I hadn't thought about before from that angle however he seemed to place people in the victim needing a savior mentality. If there's reform needed in the digital space, it's not going to come from government, but from being more transparent so the consumer can make better choices and actually making healthier local communities is the root problem causing people to rely on digital ghouls to replace real relationships. We need to go back to having better families and communities again. This internet scams are symptoms of a much deeper problem. The need for real healthy human communities. Online will never replace this.
I completely agree. Most "solutions" offered lean towards enabling this octopus mentality that was fostered online: anonymity, disguise, and continual, general distrust. It's unhealthy and dehumanising.
I believe the solution lies in taking a step back, and we will head in that direction organically, no matter how much pressure or how many algorithm-based enticements are set out to keep us trapped online.
It sounds like many of these problems would go away if we stopped tracking people online... Maybe outrageous marketing profiling is causing all this? How about banning that too?
Interesting conversations as always. Thank you
30:05 What he’s suggesting seems very dangerous to me. It sounds like he is suggesting we seize and institute a capture and tracking mechanisms into any structure or system that a criminal could conceivably use. By Law. By Courts. By Police. The issue of course is that we use those Systems. By all means, if a Company or Organization wants to set up a System that way and discloses it. Fine. It’s Search and Seizure, and there are good reasons not to structure a Service or Architecture to actively store and keep those records. If you don’t keep Sensitive Data, it cannot be taken. Ever. Even as Tech advances.
Obfuscation serves as the number one form of Safety from all manner of targeting. If I’m transporting a locked case in my trunk, and I do not know it’s contents, that is a fantastic way to never know them. If my delivery destination is transmitted more and more accurately as I travel, then erases itself from the receiving device, that is great defense. And it’s legally protected as a means of self defense. Great op sec. If you compromise that Service you are doing 6 things not legally allowed, and compromising the Market and Service of Security offered per say.
The means of doing this as proposed is everything. That’s why, even if a Company Advertised that it kept immaculate Records, and looked through everything to make sure you are getting taken advantage. And of course submitting anything at all sketchy or suspicious to the Police is a not a great pitch. Either for children or elderly. Because every single one of those things is an attack vector.
@chickenmonger123 - There were several times where he made claims where wanting more access to data to protect us. This gives me scary feelings.
A typical dating scam is when a random number texts you pretending to know you. “Hey, is this John?”Usually Chinese do this from Southeast Asia.
This was an eye opening conversation into how widespread the problem is. And it easy to hypothesize on how bad things could get in no time.
A good antidote to this problem might be creating a secure environment for individuals prone to predation, to foster the critical awareness needed to see these dangers. Foster this awareness by gamifying the opportunity of distinguishing between the safe and the dangers.
You could do this in a game-like virtual place. A Good, fun, simple videogame could teach people all the online skills needed to be safe.
Very helpful conversation!! Thank you! Really like Dr. Peterson’s beautiful jacket.
Great interview.
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Sounds like a Digital Bill of Rights might be warranted.
I get at least two spam calls per day.
I doubt that any of the pretty young single women that want to be my friend are young single women.
I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for spamming.
great idea
Congrats on 8 mill 🎉
🔹✨ *_A.I. isn't about making machines more human like, but to make humans more machine like!_* ✨🔹
All thanks to capitalism. That's why Jordan Peterson likes it so much (A.I).
I miss you bro, and will NEVER forget you, you changed my life❤
It’s a game.. I see people laughing all the time because they know what they are doing and who they are doing it to. I believe what could possibly be of help, might be, to get a phone that has no internet access. Gives piece of mind to the elders and younger’. I’m getting ready to try myself for certain transactions. Thanks for having me.
I still get all sorts of robocalls on my landline .
A very close person was heavily damaged by cyber crime in all kinds of ways. And needless to say, there is almost no protection or justice to be found for the victims from the banks and police. It was heartbreaking to go through this with my dear person, to witness how, what they thought was true, crumble like a card house and realizing they were heavily scammed. Especially older people need to become well informed by their grandkids, kids etc, the younger generations aware of these scams.
Freedom in this age is Questionable, Including Server abilities to pickup any individual and take there Devices under there Control especially by downloading apps that identify there Devices as actual Developers and control advertising that can be Profitable to there own Business.
Great interview!!
How do you give this information to someone whose hands are glued to their phone? I have tried for 4 years (since mid-2020) to tell people to leave social media and to only use the phone when they absolutely have to because of all the tracking and tracing. Now this? More reason to ditch the phone and stay off certain platforms. Thank you!!! 🤗
Tactically engage India.
Dr. Peterson, please Interview Jay Dyer
on philosophy religion geopolitics etc
Jay Dyer, the more intellectual Alex Jones.
Dr. Peterson does not take interview recommendations from the comment section. He talks to people he has made a connection with. Just so you know.
@@afringedgentian5426 thanks for the information. I hope Jonathan Pageau might possibly raise his name in their off-camera conversation
We’ve almost reached the point of having an actual Blackwall
“I’m looking for someone other than my wife, someone other than my wife. Ashley Maddison’s just right!”
I remember even as a kid thinking, “This is a messed up commercial.”
It’s always interesting to hear people operating in such niches.
It is tempting to assume the world is the way it is because it is, but no, it doesn’t plunge into chaos because of the people like this.
Yes to Jesus, no to bankers
Amen 🙏
Banks should be held responsable for this. We put our money in banks to keep it safe. They are not providing us with the service they are advertizing.
So excited
26:52
Yeah well when grandma finds it necessary to mention how houses were 20,000 dollars when she was looking to buy them.
All I can think to ask is
What do we say about the victims of inflation?
Why is it a 14 year old doing these things? 7:30
What about a 30 year old responsible adult?
Online = Evil
Awesome
Always Keep Your Private Information Protected especially thru Online...
Had no idea there was such an epidemic of 70-something seniors getting scammed on dating sites. I assumed most people born in that generation wouldn't even be technologically literate enough to turn on a computer, let alone navigate a web page.
I'm almost 60 and grew up with computers (from 9th grade on)..... I had computer literacy courses at university, every job I've held required computer skills. Lol.
What about my digital assets ❓❓
An interesting suggestion: impersonating the scammers. Olson mentions impersonating victims, elderly grandmas etc., in order to entrap predators. What if we did the opposite, impersonating scammers - and when susceptible people fall victim to the scam, you educate them on the mistake they made so they can learn and have a second chance
The guilty will say, when caught, that they were just trying to educate the person, not scam them. Being often in India and other foreign countries, we really have no legal recourse against them.
Nobody wants to fund that because it isn’t very scalable. A scammer can have many victims but with your approach you’re only saving 1 person at a time.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582Doesn’t even have to be a government project, I might volunteer to do it just for fun, idgaf. And the impact of scamming one person is that their whole family knows about it and maybe others - scamming and educating someone could really educate dozens of people in that case
Besides the gullible will fall for a different scam. They change these up regularly.
Many times a scam is going to entice people based on their own greed or vice. Perhaps if people were more interested in the pursuit of virtue they could avoid a large percentage of scams. I once saw a guy that gave out his bank account information to a guy that claimed to be a Nigerian prince who was promising a fortune in return… 🤔
Maybe encourage them to invest more in studying the Bible. They would have learned the love of money was the root of all kinds of evil.
Any desk... Just download... And we can help you by controlling your phone laptop... Airplane ✈️ mode. Restart. 30:13
As long as we're focused on making money first these problems will remain.
Hey Jordan. I love your work and the depth you bring to conversations about almost any topic. There is one impediment I would like to suggest for your consideration, which I also believe will greatly assist with your wrestling with God and His word. Evolution is not congruent with God’s word. For you to consider.
Dearest Dr. Peterson, my review of your Boston lecture is out today from Wrong Speak Publishing, entitled “For the Glory of God: An Evening With Jordan Peterson.” You might like it, and then again you might not, because there isn’t anything in it for you to be grumpy about. Except I tease you a little bit but you will see it’s the spirit of play. And I did say that you are an absolute sweetheart in person, because you are, and that might ruin your reputation as a curmudgeon, but that’s the way it is. And if you do like it, if you could please share it, it might help expose my work to paying editors who might like to have me write for them and that would be helpful. But only if you find merit in my work.
With Ruth Anne’s love
Update: HE SHARED IT!!!
Jordan, this topic is so crucial, and the theme of victimhood spreads so deep! I was visiting a local police station in S.A.: In the cue infront was this African grandma.. Shame, she was a victim of cyber theft. Now, couple the real victimhood experienced from the internet with the victimhood narrative systemic from S.A.'s political past, the cyber reality aggrivates people like this grandma, preventing her from overcoming this whirlpool of victimhood. Thank you for making more people aware. Do you think that, in the future, the public can hold company leaders that has a monopoly on these "cloud space" information-generators more seriously for such crimes? Can they be held accountable? Should they be held accountable?
Jordan saying identity theft online is the same as someone kidnapping your daughter and holding a firearm to her head is bananas. INSANE!
Not the same but still huge damage to your live….
Informative & Timely message!! Good show 👍
Is seems to me that making a billion fake personas and making it unknown who is real and who is not is one way to mix it up. The other would be to make a program for total restart. Something that would pretty much wipe me off the web once a year when you get a new device...if everyone in the u.s. did this it would be mayhem for anyone to track.
I'm amazed how clever the criminals on the internet
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I've started asking callers if they are a recording. If it's a recording, they keep talking and I hang up. If it's a person, I find that They will hang up. They hear "recording" and get scared. It's fun
Diablo walks our digital streets. With the head of Lillith, WE WILL WIN! Foward foward! Twirling upwards towards the light! 🎉
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If companies like this can find problems and then correct them, why can't they simply make changes to the original internet code to make such infractions incapable?
Jordan is correct in the assumption of live events.....that's where the money will be if you're a skilled musician worried about AI taking your profits.
Scams appear very legitimate; not all are apparent phonys. Have you ever received an email that stated there is a problem with your delivery? The ones I have received copied my exact order, the logos of the company, all the information was there.
You won a prize, just pay the shipping.
Fake business: send Bitcoin.
I've heard that there are people who read the obituaries, looking for bereaved seniors that they can target. Shameless.
It would also keep out poor people congratulations
He is not saying that they can catch the criminals
For money scams, it seems all the warning sign you need is if someone is trying to get money out of you.
19:02 How is this not described as digital stalking?
Deliberate deception, concealed monitoring and targeted directly to the individual.
Depending on what videos are provided to the algorithm, it could cause untold damage to the mental health of the target.
You are so right.
Please conisder having less ads in your content Mr. Peterson, it's really intense...
Fear/paranoia leads to higher walls be they pay-walls, physical walls, or governmental regulation walls. How tall are you trying to build Dr. Jordan?
Why doesnt the owner of the device have that auth
What if a 3rd party collection business is fake and you even receive court summons which none of that is verifiable before officer hand you the summons. Most will make the payment.
I appreciate the guy trying to simplify it to theft but the reality is these people are being convinced to send money by their own choice so are wanting people to have freedom of choice or freedom from choice. The reason it happens is because of ignorance which happens in more places than the internet
Come on. Porn comprises at least 95% of internet activity 😂
In the majority of you tube videos are porn bots, mostly the first “comment”, with a naked behind profile picture
I work in financial crimes and scammers are going to get better and better with AI. Haven’t watched the whole thing yet so not sure if it is mentioned, but the newest pain in our ass is that scammers are recording our voices from social media videos we post then use AI to call grandparents and ask for money. It can be anyone really but they target the elderly. We’ve come up with stupid code words that we’ll use to know that it is really us speaking haha. Knowing how your family members speak is a good way to know if it’s fake or not. We usually know certain words and phrases we like to use.
Wouldn't INTERPOL be used to go after cyber criminals that cross national borders?
The online world...as dangerous as the real world!
"deal with internet crime the way they deal with street crime" ? That's the Worst analogy anyone could make. How are we dealing with street crime?
Street crime is far less of an issue today than it was when the US first developed and engaged with streets. The internet is just over 20 years old - it's a wild west full of crime currently.
My son changes phone numbers often.. I am going to try a ‘Jitter Bug’, will let you know if I have luck.
Amazing talk, I'm just waiting for all the "we're doomed", "they're taking over", and the countless other AI fear comments.
Read C. S. Lewis “The Abolition of Man” and “That Hideous Strength” and understand what you are reading.
@ mikekane2492 the comments I described are fear based. There are legitimate criticisms presented in this talk but I'm not referring to most of what was presented.
@@afringedgentian5426 I'm aware of that book I believe and it's similar, but more realistic, than sci Fi movies.
I'm a software developer and data scientist and literally create AI for one of the largest tech companies in the world.
I know what I'm talking about.
@@emmang2010so did Lewis.
@@afringedgentian5426 So he did
A simple, though partial solution to the shedding of digital parasites is use of anonymization (multiple accounts, temporary accounts, obfuscation, etc.) rather than forcing everyone to present her real name and image. Forcing people to expose their real identity exposes the law-abiding to more visibility that ne'er-do-wells could use to better target potential victims. One solution could be custodial anonymization, anonymization as a service (AaaS) if you will, one of the key value proposition of cryptocurrency.