Ukraine: Drone Dogfights

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  • Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
  • One of the most interesting aspects of the drone warfare being conducted in Ukraine is the emergence of drone vs drone dogfighting.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 549

  • @TheArmourersBench
    @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +12

    Thanks for watching guys, check out the accompanying article for this video here: armourersbench.com/2023/07/09/ukraines-improvised-anti-drone-minigun/

    • @Sajuuk
      @Sajuuk Рік тому

      It's only a matter of time before purpose built drones for destroying enemy drones appear on the battlefield.
      Autonomous drones with pistol calibre weapons and sighting mechanisms and AI assistance for example, or EW pods to scramble the drones connection to it's user or to maybe hack it and take control.
      Cheap kamikaze drones for ramming and destroying other larger more expensive drones that loiter looking for targets....

    • @hurtfixer_
      @hurtfixer_ Рік тому +1

      Ukrainian drones should hang a long wire underneath them for attacks from above to entangle enemy drones, or hang fishing line with a small fishing weight underneath to entangle...

    • @Sajuuk
      @Sajuuk Рік тому +1

      @@hurtfixer_ So long as there's some kind of automatic release mechanism after entanglement otherwise both drones still go down...

  • @WanneSomeSoup
    @WanneSomeSoup Рік тому +231

    It is weird when you realize that these commercial drones on both sides are probably made in the same factory.

    • @TheRealDuckofDeath
      @TheRealDuckofDeath Рік тому

      China: We have zero morals

    • @ultravioletsus
      @ultravioletsus Рік тому +17

      literally tiananmen square

    • @elarr8733
      @elarr8733 Рік тому +20

      And the same intelligence officer in the country of manufacture has screens running with both feeds.

    • @buildingabout3505
      @buildingabout3505 Рік тому +10

      probably consecutive serial numbers

    • @DrewAk49
      @DrewAk49 Рік тому +6

      They are... Dji in china..................

  • @Dazzxp
    @Dazzxp Рік тому +468

    I approve of drone vs drone warfare atleast no one dies.

    • @UserUser-kz4fq
      @UserUser-kz4fq Рік тому +40

      But later dies those who have no intel.

    • @XavierAway
      @XavierAway Рік тому +7

      @@UserUser-kz4fqit’s intel for artillery missions too though.

    • @BrettBaker-uk4te
      @BrettBaker-uk4te Рік тому +21

      Until they unite against their real enemy.....

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 Рік тому +14

      Until one side has no more drones...

    • @blubbertalk
      @blubbertalk Рік тому +10

      Always fun to see battletech fans in the wild

  • @bobhinks8546
    @bobhinks8546 Рік тому +238

    My heart goes out to the Drones Family 😢😊

    • @whoisme678
      @whoisme678 Рік тому

      🤔

    • @kuyanatnatdkrx7
      @kuyanatnatdkrx7 Рік тому +18

      Many brave drones have sacrificed their lives so that other drones can live in peace and freedom. RIP Drones

    • @theowink
      @theowink Рік тому +4

      O no !
      The Russians leave their drones on the ground to rot!
      Maybe a batterytree will sprout at best

    • @theowink
      @theowink Рік тому

      Awireisallittakes

    • @steviepii
      @steviepii Рік тому +9

      Rest in Pieces 🙏

  • @gawkthimm6030
    @gawkthimm6030 Рік тому +45

    ok hear me out guys; tiny pneumatic air-canon, which fires a small weight with attached fishing-lines coated in something sticky to entangle the other copters blades.. a sort of pneumatic miniature bola for the propellers... mounted to fire downwards

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +12

      Not the most outlandish idea!

    • @connormclernon26
      @connormclernon26 Рік тому +3

      Mirroring early Russian attempts at fighting during WW1

    • @jamesbridges7750
      @jamesbridges7750 Рік тому +1

      Pavashot with Roborounds.

    • @AwesomeIan135
      @AwesomeIan135 Рік тому +1

      Wait there has gotta be some super small/compact gas powered rifle that could be attached to a drone right?

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 Рік тому +2

      @@AwesomeIan135 Why would you go that complex? You know how much lighter weight a .22 cartridge is than an air tank and valve assembly? MUCH lighter weight, and we are talking less than most coins in terms of cost.

  • @erefayn6492
    @erefayn6492 Рік тому +14

    It reminds me first military use of aircrafts.First used just for reconnaissance then pilot use their revolvers and other makeshift solutions to attack enemy.Then fighters planes emerge for air to air attack.

  • @paulking7019
    @paulking7019 Рік тому +85

    Like many other people I fly drones as well as other RC Aircraft. We have for many years had "dogfights" or "combat" with our planes. The idea being to ram the other plane and cause it to crash. An unsuspecting quadcopter has no chance in such combat with flyingwings that have pusher props or EDF" jets" powering them through the air. If you want to cheaply bring these things down use fixed wing planes to ram the Quads. It doesn't hurt to also pull a streamer behind the plane to foul their props. The streamer is attached to easily pull away from the plane once it has fouled the prop of the drone. One of these FPV flying wings can be built for far less money than any of the quadcopter drones including the FPV drones. Depending on how far you need to fly you can build them for less the $100 US. Each (Expendable) Basically you are flying a reusable air to air missile for less than $100. If all you want to do is get rid of a drone flying over your position, this could easily do the job as long as there is a proficient pilot flying it. No runway needed just hand launch. When you get good enough you can fly it back and catch it if it survives, (it should survive easily). I have the same FPV plane that has been through hell and back that I have used in the past.

    • @geometerfpv2804
      @geometerfpv2804 Рік тому +3

      Planes have two disadvantages: you need to be a skilled pilot, unlike with a Mavic, and if you are a skilled pilot, a quadcopter is more flexible. You really figure it would be easy to knock a small object out of the air with a fixed wing? I find FPV quads are far more maneuverable. Re: price, an FPV fixed wing is not $100. You can get a full manual fixed wing kit for that price. There really are FPV quads around $100, on the other hand. I think surveying the area and locating enemy drones would be much easier from an FPV drone than a fixed wing in constant forward motion. You can't even move particularly slowly without stalling. There's a reason fixed wing racing has huge gates in comparison to FPV racing.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Рік тому +1

      I think I watched something like that in the Rotor Riot channel

    • @paulking7019
      @paulking7019 Рік тому +9

      ​@@geometerfpv2804 Get FPV has SonicModell AR wing kit for 54.99 right now for people that for some reason can't build these from scratch with a piece of foam board. There are easy to locate plans if you need them on places like RC groups. Quads need 3 to 4 times more parts than a flying wing and once weighted down with a weapon they won't fly like a race quad anymore.
      A hovering drone like a Mavic is an easy target. If you can't see something like that. It is just unfortunate for you. I have hit other fixed wings head on and recovered and kept flying. Break or tangle just one prop on a quad and it will crash. Especially if it is overloaded.
      You seem to think that because I would use a simple flying wing against a drone that I know nothing about your quads. I have probably been building them longer than you have been flying. I still have my first Phantom FC40 with prop guads. My first "race" quad was an immersion RC vortex with the folding arms. I even have some parts left from it too.
      Did you ever think the huge gates in fixed wing racing has something to do with the fact that they have wings that need to fit through the gates? I embrace all forms of flight. I see the disadvantages of quads as well as their obvious advantages too. For some reason you seem to think quads are better at everything and they simply are not. Lancet drones have been wearing out Ukrainian equipment and they are fixed wing drones. More than half of the FPV racequad attacks miss their intended targets. We never see all the misses from either side.

    • @damonm3
      @damonm3 Рік тому +4

      Very cool. I was thinking of next gen engineering ideas and if seems you’ve got some exp with some good solutions/ideas. Guys like us should be the design idea guys for drone companies 🍻🚀🎯💥

    • @stephencarlson6297
      @stephencarlson6297 Рік тому +2

      @paulking7019 Totally agree. If you ever want to stage a demonstration or try iterating the design of such an Air-Superiority wing, I'm totally down. I grew up cutting, building and flying combat wings, and have a fair bit of experience with FPV fixed-wing combat, among other hats that I wear.

  • @christopherwang4392
    @christopherwang4392 Рік тому +97

    1:50 to 2:25 I'm not a fan of fantasy genre, but the use of weighted nets to attack drones from above reminded me of stories of defeating dragons the same way.

    • @rolliseventeen
      @rolliseventeen Рік тому +2

      i think different bout that. if the net has just some fabric fibre or is sturdy, it will just brake the props a bit which is enough to broing it down. the weight itself is just added for the reason, that the net is falling faster to the drone and is not affected too much with wind. they fly maybe above 100m and there allways much more wind.
      i you fly a quad you may remeber how a few weed sticks grass gras or little branches can stop one prop and you have to walk a bit.

    • @crisnmaryfam7344
      @crisnmaryfam7344 Рік тому +2

      Not quite anything so spectacular, more like they stole it from Drone Fighting stuff done by kids, and Battle Bots from Comedy Central.

    • @samexoldx
      @samexoldx Рік тому +2

      @@crisnmaryfam7344 n0t qUiTe aNytHiNg sO sPecTacUlaR 🤡

  • @mastathrash5609
    @mastathrash5609 Рік тому +57

    I can only assume, stronger materials and protective design will be incorporated into blades and engine supports in future military drones. Very interesting stuff.

    • @cyan_oxy6734
      @cyan_oxy6734 Рік тому +17

      I guess military drones are already a lot tougher. Remember those are cheap off the shelf enthusiast drones.
      Toyota didn't make their Pickups bullet proof just because they did great in a war. Same applies here.

    • @mastathrash5609
      @mastathrash5609 Рік тому +1

      @cyan_oxy6734 indeed it does go down to cost for sure, even if it's the savings of a $1,200 drone versus a $2,000 drone, it's not a lot of savings but I guess it is cheaper alternative to metal or composite blades/ structures ect ect.

    • @sodinc
      @sodinc Рік тому +1

      i expect protective rings above and around the rotors

    • @jonasstahl9826
      @jonasstahl9826 Рік тому +2

      ​@@sodincThats a bad idea it increases weight and reduces effency of the rotors there requiring a bigger battery that increases weight even more. The smart idea would be to add a camera on top of a drone with a wide lense.

    • @BuckNuttage
      @BuckNuttage Рік тому

      That costs money. These are consumer drones. Ninety-nine percent of these drones being sold are to schools, children, and peaceful enthusiasts. They won't be making modifications to try and sell more to people using them to blow people up.

  • @JesterTop
    @JesterTop Рік тому +34

    A downward facing porcupine rig on a drone would be very effective. Not only would it easily mess the propellers of the enemy drone up but also keep a bit of distance from the attacking drone. As well as increasing survivability of the attacking drone during landing or falling.

    • @jblob5764
      @jblob5764 Рік тому +8

      Agreed, even just q couple of 6" pegs similar to landing legs would do the job.
      Also some rotor guards like you see on the ones made for little kids may prevent some of the losses from top attacks

    • @andrewcarr3650
      @andrewcarr3650 Рік тому +5

      or just trail some line weighted with fishing sinkers, should be enough to stop a rotor.

    • @jblob5764
      @jblob5764 Рік тому +4

      @@andrewcarr3650 but then you lose your drone when it gets tangled and they both fall unless you had a really heavy lift drone

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 Рік тому +1

      ​@@jblob5764 Still easy to make work. Use coat-hanger wire to give it a bit of extra reach, and then use some light monofilament fishing line intended to break off from the snare line as a means of attaching it.

    • @stripedassape8148
      @stripedassape8148 Рік тому +1

      In before they start arming these to shoot shotgun shells at each other

  • @luftwaffels7815
    @luftwaffels7815 Рік тому +67

    What a time to be alive

    • @stoptrudeau42
      @stoptrudeau42 Рік тому

      +5 social credit score

    • @Drikkerbadevand
      @Drikkerbadevand 3 місяці тому

      it fucking sucks lol odds are we'll all see war and this is now a fundamental aspect of it.. meatgrinder

  • @GordonScottYankeeEngineer
    @GordonScottYankeeEngineer Рік тому +16

    I am an FPV pilot. I fly racing drones like the one demonstrated in this video attacking the slow DJI. That is the next level of this drone game, and the pieces are already in place.

    • @whoisme678
      @whoisme678 Рік тому +1

      Quick reflexes for racing drones.

    • @GordonScottYankeeEngineer
      @GordonScottYankeeEngineer Рік тому +2

      @@whoisme678 I hate seeing a hobby I have enjoyed so much for a decade be used for such purposes. 😕

    • @turkeyboyjh1
      @turkeyboyjh1 Рік тому +2

      Drone racing is going to be the next weaponized skill, for good reason too some of these drones are hitting 80-100mph and are extremely small you could fly down a trench marking location with basically 0 chance of failure

    • @geometerfpv2804
      @geometerfpv2804 Рік тому +3

      I'm not sure why they want FPV drones, mavics seem better. The flight time is so short. You've got a vast sky. You need to locate the enemy in. Plus, FPV flight requires tons of training to do well, whereas a Mavic is point-and-shoot.

    • @GordonScottYankeeEngineer
      @GordonScottYankeeEngineer Рік тому

      @@geometerfpv2804 100% agree that drones are so much easier to operate than flying a quadcopter. They require a minimal amount of training.
      The disadvantage to them is that they are slow. Just in the past year or so the hobbyist has been able to achieve 30 minute flight times with large quad copters. That is with lithium ion batteries. And achievable flight times of 15 minutes on lithium polymer, the motors have become very efficient, as well as the software for energy management. It’s all super interesting and happens too fast for me to keep up with 😵‍💫😄
      Sorry for the long comment/reply. It is really for the non-FPV guys, I know you are one of the initiated. 😉👍

  • @whatnowstinky
    @whatnowstinky Рік тому +41

    Great video. It makes me wonder what developments we will see in drone air to air armaments before this war is over. Also in strengthening and defences against aerial attack.
    I wonder how long till we get the first air to air drone ace.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +2

      Thank you, thanks for watching!

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 Рік тому +2

      None. Gun based solution is too heavy and also not cost effective for many target. Missile based solution is too too tooooo expensive.

    • @BrettBaker-uk4te
      @BrettBaker-uk4te Рік тому +8

      @@jintsuubest9331 .410 shotgun.

    • @jintsuubest9331
      @jintsuubest9331 Рік тому

      @@BrettBaker-uk4te
      ???

    • @BrettBaker-uk4te
      @BrettBaker-uk4te Рік тому +3

      @@jintsuubest9331 mount a semi-automatic .410 shotgun with larger size shot. Lower recoil, but you don't have to ram the other drone to take it out. Just get within 10 meters or so.

  • @KD-bk7gd
    @KD-bk7gd Рік тому +7

    I also feel like the psychological warfare surrounding small personal drones is understated. Imagine hearing them buzz around above you, having no idea if it’s about to drop a grenade on your head or lead an artillery strike to rain down on you. The sound alone would be terror.

  • @ederplays2788
    @ederplays2788 Рік тому +15

    Now this would be a game changer if you had pilots that could fly in acro mode. For those who don’t know, it’s like the “freestyle” or “acrobatic” drone flying mode.

  • @MadMarcWinnipeg
    @MadMarcWinnipeg Рік тому +7

    I'd be down to do that out there. I've been flying fpv drones for years.

  • @katana2665
    @katana2665 Рік тому +17

    I imagine that it wont be long before they figure out how to mount a firearm with detachable magazine onto the drone. The more professional drones can handle the weight. The question is whether it can handle the blowback.

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 Рік тому +7

      Since you don't have to worry about the user you can put a very aggressive muzzle brake to reduce the recoil and solve it that way.

    • @marvinherrera4579
      @marvinherrera4579 Рік тому +2

      Laser guns ❤

    • @mattfleming86
      @mattfleming86 Рік тому +7

      Something light duty like a .410 shotgun, or even a pistol round with the larger "rat shot" would be doable. Simple solenoid trigger.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +3

      Yeah seems like a very likely a potential next step for sure, it's already been played with. Thanks for watching!

    • @aenorist2431
      @aenorist2431 Рік тому +4

      I don't see the advantage versus a simple net made out of a few crossed yarns with fishing weights.
      You are adding a whole lot of complexity and points of failure to gain destructive power that is complete overkill (versus an incredibly easy to damage drone).

  • @comentedonakeyboard
    @comentedonakeyboard Рік тому +4

    Perhaps a .22 machine gun will be the next step in the Evolution of the hunterdrone (best in a remote controled modell of a Fokker E 1)🤔

  • @arifchowdhury881
    @arifchowdhury881 Рік тому +6

    So how long until we get drones with drum-fed SMG's attached to them?

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +3

      Seems a potential next step for sure, it's already been played with. Thanks for watching!

    • @jevinliu4658
      @jevinliu4658 Рік тому +1

      The problem would be recoil, you would be hard-pressed to get a good firing solution on the enemy and you could shoot yourself out of the sky
      With larger drones this makes sense, but with a DJI not much

    • @arifchowdhury881
      @arifchowdhury881 Рік тому

      @@jevinliu4658 Anti air drones could ditch the quadcopter design and go back to the old WW2 formula of fighter aircraft, where the thrust of the engine would largely mitigate the issue of recoil. The wings would also be great for ramming attacks.
      Just my 2 cents. I'm no expert.

    • @jevinliu4658
      @jevinliu4658 Рік тому

      ​@@arifchowdhury881 You could, but that would mean making a whole new drone instead of adapting capabilities to existing quadcopters in service
      This is a different question, which I don't doubt will work but might not be as readily available.

    • @pain_weaver
      @pain_weaver Рік тому

      ​@@jevinliu4658*RC planes enters the chat*

  • @stormy001
    @stormy001 Рік тому +2

    Drone dogfighting happened in my lifetime. Amazing.

  • @leooram1959
    @leooram1959 Рік тому +4

    is like watching two kitties fight. Except this is actual war. Very strange

  • @johnspruit7296
    @johnspruit7296 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic footage of the future of aviation over the battlefront . Just amazing . Canada .

  • @My_Alchemical_Romance
    @My_Alchemical_Romance Рік тому +5

    As a professional drone pilot back in America safe in my warm bed (for now; until we look like Ukraine soon), this is absolutely amazing; especially with the military aviation history aspect.... but it is also utterly terrifying.

  • @NomadShadow1
    @NomadShadow1 Рік тому +11

    Interesting. I imagine that if ramming continues to be a preferred anti drone tactic we'll see adaptations to facilitate or protect against ramming, maybe a cage or shroud around the rotor to protect it or a steel or aluminum plate on the bottom to protect the drone from the opposing rotors

    • @AwesomeIan135
      @AwesomeIan135 Рік тому +1

      Or perhaps a top/wider fov camera and maybe a microphone to allow for better detection of enemy drones.

    • @smol_hornet613
      @smol_hornet613 Рік тому +1

      One good way to defend against ramming from above could be to mount long, thin prongs and antennas on the top of the drone. Ramming drone drops onto the prongs, gets its propellers absolutely skewered, and down it goes. Easy to make, and next to no added weight needed.

  • @christopherwang4392
    @christopherwang4392 Рік тому +2

    Imagine a future _Battlefield_ or _Call of Duty_ mission or multiplayer featuring drone versus drone dogfighting gameplay.

    • @omphya6229
      @omphya6229 Рік тому

      Didn't the Battlefield games have drones or am I wrong?

    • @wurmschn3693
      @wurmschn3693 Рік тому

      *drone hitbox missing*

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh Рік тому +3

    What about going above it and spraying aerosol glue on it. Some kind of sticky liquid?

  • @ralpha112233
    @ralpha112233 Рік тому +3

    I would have thought that the easiest weapon to mount would be an airgun. Similar or the same as a paintball gun only firing metal bbs.
    Wouldn't weigh much and depending upon the amount of shots carried and how much pressure would define the air tank size.
    Could soon have a hunter killer drone very quickly.

    • @nayhem
      @nayhem Рік тому

      My thoughts went to a detachable metal chain. I also like the fiberglass rod suggested by another comment; could be used as defense as well.

  • @Lx655321
    @Lx655321 Рік тому

    Next step in evolution: Protecting blades with a frame + equip drones with miniature guns and 360° camera.

  • @JoyZofSoRRoW
    @JoyZofSoRRoW Рік тому +1

    They need to add remote firing zip guns that can fire 12g or 20g bird shot. It cant be difficult to make a simple short pipe shotgun like device thats remote control that could be fired when an enemy drone tries to ram it.

  • @Longshot88
    @Longshot88 Рік тому +1

    I don't know why but these videos are kinda funny
    They approach each other like 2 fish about to fight 😂

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Рік тому +4

    One technique that could be useful is putting a cage on the drones to mitigate the threat to the props. A lot of civilian drone fighting competitions use this.

    • @geometerfpv2804
      @geometerfpv2804 Рік тому +1

      Drastically reduces flight time, though

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 Рік тому

      Both defensive and offensive options that add weight make them worse at flight time, and therefore observation.

    • @gurmiro
      @gurmiro Рік тому

      it is too heavy and creates resistance. The best defense is attack~!

    • @deltap6967
      @deltap6967 3 місяці тому

      Holy shit drone cope cage

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc Рік тому +3

    From the start of the drone warfare era, I always thought it was like the use of aircraft in WW1. I wonder how long it will be before drones are built specifically to hunt down the enemy with minimal input from humans and can survive the encounter.

  • @jason3421
    @jason3421 Рік тому +3

    Interesting. When the airplane first went into military service it was used for just recon. The first air battle was in WWI when the photographer in a recon plane decided to pull out a handgun and shoot at an enemy recon plane flying close by. Almost seems like that is happening again here.

  • @NorroTaku
    @NorroTaku Рік тому +1

    so eye opening seing these fight
    i saw drones drop grenades many times
    but this made me realize the rhyming of history with early aviation
    i always found it crude that they dripped handgrenades
    but never thought the same about drones

  • @ianray8823
    @ianray8823 Рік тому +1

    By the end of the years we'll have dogfights...
    ...with those Black Mirror robodogs

  • @carlbadolddad6900
    @carlbadolddad6900 Рік тому +2

    Great video very interesting we'll be curious to see how the next generation of drones fight each other

  • @conorlangan2632
    @conorlangan2632 Рік тому +1

    Dangle weighted fishing lines and capture the drones by the motors

  • @alldroneYT
    @alldroneYT Рік тому +2

    As a drone lover, especially dji fanboy, this video crushes my heart to pieces just like those falling Mavics.

    • @ones_flow5652
      @ones_flow5652 Рік тому

      Me too. All the nice cinematic videos that could've been done with them...
      It's also disturbing to see the exact same GUI besides the same drone in a war which I use for just making videos and having fun.
      Soon, the FPV pros will have a high income on battlefield.

    • @alldroneYT
      @alldroneYT Рік тому +1

      @@ones_flow5652 yeah, definitely. I would love to see those drones much more rather in hands of some kids, or other people, who can't afford a drone and want one. Such a waste of a lot of money during this worthless war.

  • @killzoneisa
    @killzoneisa 11 місяців тому

    I once saw a cartoon years ago,where two drone pull out knives and handguns to fight with.

  • @lazerith840
    @lazerith840 Рік тому +1

    The nets a good idea, but instead of something that just drops. It should be a light net like a fishing net, and have a canister to deploy from on a spring mechanism. Small weights can be on edge of netting and is ejected outward causing net to spread on deployment. Snare up the propellers, and the drone should just drop from the sky. Would work best from above the drone.

    • @MrKbtor2
      @MrKbtor2 Рік тому

      Right, a spring to deploy and spread the net. Good thinking

  •  Рік тому +7

    Thank you for this Video. I was expecting such a development. Just like in WW1. I am a bit surprised that after over a year, we still havnt seen the deployment of dedicated hunter drones for drone on drone combat. Seems to me that a drone with some kind of short ranged weapon against other drones could be an important assat.
    Maybe drone on drone isnt such a big topic in Ukraine an only rarly occures and because of that there havnt been dedicated devlopments in that field.

    • @matthewwalker8165
      @matthewwalker8165 Рік тому +1

      I could see why too they are flying thousands on both sides everyday

    • @SvdSinner
      @SvdSinner Рік тому +3

      I've been waiting for an anti-drone drone to arrive ever since drones first started to be serious nuisances in the civilian world. I'm sure there are research teams working on this idea, and it is only a matter of time.

    • @DonVetto-vx9dd
      @DonVetto-vx9dd Рік тому

      It would cost 100,000 dollars per unit, and can only attack small drones. While the bigger military drones can get away unharmed. Yeah, very good investment.

    • @SvdSinner
      @SvdSinner Рік тому +2

      @DonVetto-vx9dd Although I believe a $20K anti-drone drone would be feasible, a $100k anti-drone would still be amazingly cost effective if it had a high enough kill rate. You don't have to save many million dollar armored vehicles or keep very many military maneuvers secret to make that price tag start looking really cheap.

  • @harrymu148
    @harrymu148 13 днів тому

    I was recalling the battle bot's stick method and possibly a thermite drone just popping thermite onto the receiving drone. could set off batteries, I suppose.

  • @melc311
    @melc311 Рік тому +1

    imagine a armed drone with some sort of .22 weapon designed to hunt down enemy drones

  • @rkirke1
    @rkirke1 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if a "barrage balloon" type technique could be employed as well? A weak "breakaway link" on the attacking drone with a few meters of fishing line and a weight hanging from that.

  • @jayski9410
    @jayski9410 Рік тому +1

    Eventually this crude type of attack will be replaced by electronic attacks. These drones are doing a lot of communicating so blocking or causing static on certain frequencies could take it out. Or blocking it's ability to use GPS to know its position. Or finding a way to infect it's programming with viruses that can be activated like a zero day exploit. Essentially doing what the Navy's Intruder aircraft did to clear the way for fighters.

  • @cabriskus4700
    @cabriskus4700 Рік тому

    I personally think we should start arming military drones with extremely small caliber projectiles. I’m talking 380. Or 25 acp type of small

  • @Andrecio64
    @Andrecio64 Рік тому +1

    Racing drones are really capable of this

  • @6.5x55
    @6.5x55 Рік тому +1

    WW1 airpower evolution all over again is really interesting.

  • @cujimmy1366
    @cujimmy1366 Рік тому +2

    Can cluster bomb sub munitions be removed from the main bomb and used individually if they could be carried by say a Mavick....

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому

      Yes, I believe they can. I believe that's one of the reasons Ukraine requested them.

    • @regularperson7793
      @regularperson7793 Рік тому +1

      That already a thing. Ukrainians strip old soviet AT cluster bombs for PTAB-2.5M HEAT submunition to use against vehicles.

  • @dougaltolan3017
    @dougaltolan3017 Рік тому +2

    Upward facing ultrasonic range finder could alert the target.
    Either just warn the pilot and/or trigger evasive manouvers.

    • @BandOfHarjaps
      @BandOfHarjaps Рік тому

      Propellers might spoil that. perhaps fish eye cameras on top of the drones are a solution. Or a combination. The other factor is effect on useful battery life.

    • @matthewbadger8685
      @matthewbadger8685 Рік тому

      @@BandOfHarjaps Can add them to a thin vertical pole maybe, between the rotors at the center

  • @RyTrapp0
    @RyTrapp0 11 місяців тому

    Seems like fabricating a kind of wire cage attached beneath the drone to protect it on an offensive dive attack would be worthwhile and improve survivability quite a bit.
    For that matter, might as well put one on top too, sandwiching the rotors to protect them from an attack from above. Think like the protective cage on an airboat. Wouldn't have to be anything to heavy, just enough thin metal rod to give the most fragile parts a little more protection.

  • @W0LFUR
    @W0LFUR Рік тому

    Bruh. This revolutionise the drone dogfight. One day mounted they'll a gun to drones.

  • @gargamelandrudmila8078
    @gargamelandrudmila8078 Рік тому

    The obvious solution is to have upward facing camera's on military drones. Job done.

  • @G0TT3RFUNK3N
    @G0TT3RFUNK3N 5 місяців тому

    Solution put a ir motion sensor or microwave motion sensor on top of the drone to detect other drones even within just 25 to 50meters will greatly help the drone pilot

  • @oriontheraptor8119
    @oriontheraptor8119 Рік тому +1

    It’s like watching robotic insects fight

  • @gregkral4467
    @gregkral4467 Рік тому

    simple fix, put the rotor bumpers on. maybe a cage of wire around the bumper. they weigh next to nothing, and will protect the rotors...

  • @manuelfriend4060
    @manuelfriend4060 Рік тому

    Funny how, as technology advances, we keep coming full circle back to combat methods that were used with old tech.

  • @lamdelmundo8492
    @lamdelmundo8492 Рік тому +1

    So it's like Battle Bots - but aerial version

  • @ratagris21
    @ratagris21 Рік тому +6

    Forget the pistol or shotgun! Just ram them out of the sky.

  • @lads.7715
    @lads.7715 Рік тому

    Indian fighting Kites can fly at considerable heights and come with tiny glass shards glued to the ending line that can effectively slice and destroy stuff. These things can cost cents to make - they just need the right wind and a bit of practice.

  • @williambolton4698
    @williambolton4698 Рік тому

    Trailing chords with either grenades or hooks at the end might give a drone the ability to capture or destroy enemy drones.possible

  • @Kuroki883
    @Kuroki883 Рік тому

    A cheap sensor on top of a drone that can detect drones attempting to ram it activating a program which does evasive maneuvers (could be taped on)

  • @toastermon2272
    @toastermon2272 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting development, the intelligence drones provide is unprecedented so it's only logical to see increased focus on denying your adversary that capability.
    I'm curious to see how this evolves, instead of nets you could drop multiple weighted strips of some durable material to get caught in the propellers but i could also imagine purpose made drone hunter drones that feature structures on the bottom that can be easily replaced as a sacrificial piece for ramming attacks.

  • @calexico66
    @calexico66 Рік тому +1

    The horror of drone on drone violence, will someone please think of the children.

  • @pulancheck
    @pulancheck Рік тому

    They both can put camera / other senzor above to scan for enemy presence.. or incoming thing falling on them

  • @spearshaker7974
    @spearshaker7974 Рік тому

    Next step seems to be strapping a 22 of some sort on to them. Maybe a co2 BB gun could work also.

  • @jaymac7203
    @jaymac7203 Рік тому +1

    Why does it look so funny when the drones are fighting each other? Lol 😂

  • @crabby7668
    @crabby7668 Рік тому

    You would think someone would have added an upward facing camera by now to see thec"hun in the sun".

  • @evanmeeden2222
    @evanmeeden2222 Рік тому

    the fact niether side has the crash bars to prevent rotor contact is beyond me

  • @bwmcelya
    @bwmcelya Рік тому

    One could use a mirror at 45 degrees in front of the camera to spot drones overhead. Positioned such that only half the camera’s forward vision is blocked.

  • @juansantana8448
    @juansantana8448 Рік тому

    "ramming sounds so midevil, nothing a mini gun can't fix.

  • @spingebill8551
    @spingebill8551 Рік тому +1

    Something to note is in the net clip, the net never spread out like it may have been intended, and by the lack of this tactic showing up everywhere it just doesn’t seem like a practical thing to do because of this.
    I think maybe it would be more effective to have a small device that releases some strong ribbons or strings to jam up the rotors of an enemy drone, which would also suck suck said debris in.

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +1

      Yes should have mentioned that directly, it basically hits it like a blunt projectile and perhaps tangles a little. Some refinement will be needed to get the jet to fan out but definitely not see any videos of similar since.

    • @Red-238
      @Red-238 Рік тому

      @@TheArmourersBench hey i would like to ask, does Ukraine have a equivalent to Russian lancet drones?, and could you do a update on switchblade 300

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому

      So I'm tracking the small number of SB 600s which are kind of an analogue but I don't think Ukraine have a drone of the Lancet's size yet. Lots of smaller FPV drones though. I'll have to do a Switchblade update anyway.

  • @mandelorean6243
    @mandelorean6243 Рік тому

    It sounds like every new drone put out in the field needs to be sporting some sharp edges near the bottom so it can easily cut the rotors off a drone by a simple touch

  • @ProjecthuntanFish
    @ProjecthuntanFish Рік тому

    They need to mount a piece of forward or downward aiming pipe with a shot gun shell loaded in it, Fire a spring loaded fireing pin and p[epper enemy drons with buck shot

  • @riscnx
    @riscnx Рік тому

    I don't think quadcopter actually gets destroyed.
    Once it's recover it, it can be easily repaired.

  • @eddiepadilla1078
    @eddiepadilla1078 Рік тому

    I would wager thst hanging sone chains from the base of a done wpuld be highly effective at knocking out the adversaries drone while increasing the chances of survival for the carrier drone.

  • @Binod_lopchan-y2z
    @Binod_lopchan-y2z Рік тому +1

    Imagine if it was an fpv drone. That could be crazy🎉.

  • @ChixelROBLOX
    @ChixelROBLOX Рік тому +1

    DJI care's team is punching the air rn

  • @waterlife.1905
    @waterlife.1905 Рік тому

    Drones should carry a lightweight chicken wire hanging down to tangle the props of the other drone.

  • @martinwhitaker5096
    @martinwhitaker5096 Рік тому

    This very much reminds me of a 1977 film called 'Sky pirates'...

  • @brianv1988
    @brianv1988 Рік тому +2

    They need some of those air cannon with Nets inside or even a remote control shotgun with birdshot😊

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger Рік тому

      Something based on Taser would make sense. No capacitors needed, just the CO2 launched darts, trailing wires and laser dot aiming.

  • @noahway13
    @noahway13 Рік тому

    For some reason my eyes think that in the drone war at 03:06, the lower drone is coming up to ram the higher drone. Just an optical illusion I guess.

  • @rahizi8527
    @rahizi8527 Рік тому

    I imagine something like "Battle of the heroes" playing while these drones fight against each other

  • @ProjecthuntanFish
    @ProjecthuntanFish Рік тому

    Daisy needs to create a fully automoatic drone BB gun. Daisy goes to war and this time not in some kids backyard

  • @My_Alchemical_Romance
    @My_Alchemical_Romance Рік тому

    We need this to be a series.

  • @ShimomuraTakezoWong
    @ShimomuraTakezoWong Рік тому

    Best to come from above/rear-6 o'clock position/flank-4 or 8 o'clock position than below because of the dual camera locations.
    Develop a canister to spray/jet stream highly concentrated hydrochloric/sulphuric acids and also with black/dark dyes for aiming purposes during the day and luminous dyes for night ops targeting the opponent's drones.
    Acid canister should have a minimum of 100-150ml if possible in a glass vial... and a range of 1.2 metres using the high pressure nozzle.

  • @painmt651
    @painmt651 Рік тому

    Some lengths of light chain-pull should be dropped from above, to tangle the rotors of the enemy drone. It would be very easy to have multiple lengths for the purpose on a single drone, as they weigh almost nothing.

  • @rawZnis
    @rawZnis Рік тому

    After losing a few drones like this I'd have upgraded them with baskets around the propellers, lose some flight time, added safety.

  • @doriancreber7139
    @doriancreber7139 Рік тому

    hmm.. maybe a light automatic shotgun fitted to a drone is the next step, a Matrice carrying a 6 shot custom 410 shotgun with short barrel..

  • @skoll6098
    @skoll6098 Рік тому +1

    The identification and the approach look like something AI could do well.

  • @crabby7668
    @crabby7668 Рік тому

    You could stick an rc plane engine and generator on to supply better range and dwell time, reduce the battery size to compensate. Stick poles underneath so you don't need to contact the body, put upward facing cameras or other sensors to detect threats above.

  • @GhostRyderFPV
    @GhostRyderFPV Рік тому +3

    I have about 30 FPV quadcopters and camera drones over my shoulder as I write this.
    All of them ,save 1, subject to new laws for operation, beginning in September. The one gets a pass as it's under 250g.
    They're not subject to new laws due to their potential as weaponized platforms, after learning the potential in Ukraine, Fukushima terror incidents, no...
    The new rules should help Amazon and Google drones from bumping into each other, though.
    Oh, good.

  • @svartorivigt5016
    @svartorivigt5016 Рік тому

    I was thinking .22 short , open bolt, short barrel and of course as light as possible. Aiming directly downwards.

  • @glossjunkies6026
    @glossjunkies6026 Рік тому

    As a drone pilot I feel like carrying some light fishing line and a two weights can be easily used to drop on a drone and stop them

  • @Mack_Dingo
    @Mack_Dingo Рік тому +1

    at the start was that a 40mm with 3D printed fin-stack on it?

    • @TheArmourersBench
      @TheArmourersBench  Рік тому +2

      Yes it was. Very popular munition and design combo.

    • @christopherwang4392
      @christopherwang4392 Рік тому +1

      @@TheArmourersBench If I recall correctly, those were first used by ISIS and Iraqi security forces.

  • @jeremiahshields7827
    @jeremiahshields7827 Рік тому

    I saw this being a thing when the F22 was first built, it's down tuned because the human body can't handle the possible G's so it's only a matter of time before thats all that in the air is drones.

  • @damonm3
    @damonm3 Рік тому +2

    The counter tech would be really fun to design and test!! I’d assume most next gen drones will have a motion detecting 360 dome cam on top with a warning system etc. and maybe an automated response mode that chooses one of several flight patterns that keeps primary camera on target with auto targeting but while mode is on takes an unpredictable flight pattern to make the attacking drone unable to execute. Sure, if it’s a next gen drone also it’ll have counter measures but this is always the game. I’m not an engineer but I love coming up with ideas for engineering and design.
    And the net drop attempt from the Russians.., while an ok idea was an absolutely terrible implementation. Needs to be folded in a zigzag (ya, you’d think Russians would think of this with their z insignia..but maybe zigzag isn’t spelled with z’s in russian haha) and have all corners come together under spring tension. Corners are weighted but is countered by the net material having a few tiny sails or wings (think parachute for hang glider) maybe a few in thick and only 2 or 4 that cross in the middle of net to create some drag to keep shape. The weighted corners will give it good downward directional speed and the loft from the sails will keep shape.. sure maybe a little too fancy but the individual parts are 3 or 4. Net, weights, spring and maybe a mech that holds it together for mounting.

  • @Elemblue2
    @Elemblue2 Рік тому

    The drones need a little cattle bolt they can use on eachother.

  • @DroneMee
    @DroneMee Рік тому +3

    I find it strange the attacking drone always seems to be stationary while the target drone tends to move around and eventually ascend into the attacking drone. Except in the FPV vs Matrices examples. I am a pro drone pilot so I have some experience with these things and it really does fascinate me. The parallels from the WWI Recon planes starting to fight with each other is intriguing as well.

  • @bodyboardingchronicles602
    @bodyboardingchronicles602 Рік тому

    We want to see drone equipt with SAW, 240 Bravo, MARK19, AT4...