Clorinde NERFED? Sigewinne & Sethos BUFFED? What Happened? | Genshin 4.7 Beta Update News & Analysis

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  • @soorya4942
    @soorya4942 4 місяці тому +94

    clorinde gon be the worst dps of fontaine even tho she's a champion duelist smh....truly a hoyo move of all time

    • @sango6579
      @sango6579 4 місяці тому

      Freminet is the worst actually

    • @Marion-gb1by
      @Marion-gb1by 4 місяці тому +14

      @@sango6579freminet is a four star while she’s a five star 😭 as in, you actually need more resources to get her and she’s still bad. no one expects that much from a four star dps but for a five star dps this is really bad

    • @soorya4942
      @soorya4942 4 місяці тому +5

      @@sango6579 you're right if we are talking abt everyone from fontaine but if its only 5 stars thn she's gonna be the worst one

    • @雖生猶死
      @雖生猶死 4 місяці тому

      Another Electro Childe hehe🤣

    • @theskywalker8416
      @theskywalker8416 4 місяці тому +2

      Tbf, she is not bad if you dont compare to broken characters like Neuvillette, Navia, Furina and Arlecchino
      Let be real, any character in Fontaine is overpower af ! Clorinde maybe the "normal" 5* only

  • @jaguh9069
    @jaguh9069 4 місяці тому +266

    hyv keeping the tradition to make 5* electro dps awkward to play since Yae release.

    • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
      @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому +19

      Eh , you don’t even really play yae you just switch instantly

    • @jaguh9069
      @jaguh9069 4 місяці тому +65

      @@LauraJinkins-pi8sv Doesn't make the 3 Es any less awkward.

    • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
      @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому +10

      @@jaguh9069yeah , but I mean yae isn’t played on field. clorinde is that’s what I meant

    • @saddany3254
      @saddany3254 4 місяці тому +12

      Yae only awkward against stationary boss enemy where there's no need for mobilities. Against moving enemies, and multi waves, her E's are convenient, as you can set up *as* you approach enemies with her dashes simultaneously - kill two birds with one stone, which saves times and stamina... Unless you're clueless using her dashes *after* you already approached them using regular sprint.

    • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
      @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому +3

      @@saddany3254yeah , but I could see why having to stay on field for 3 seconds is annoying especially since she’s super squishy

  • @masterchef175
    @masterchef175 4 місяці тому +81

    She doesn't even do anything asides from dealing damage unlike raiden who has off field application and battery for the whole team and yet her dmg is still pretty much just the same if not "slightly" better. All this just because they don't want anyone power creeping their baby girl Raiden B. Mei. The only time that probably happens is if it's the electro sovereign or a harbinger, because it seems that all harbingers get special treatment. This nerf is so anti-fun and unnecessary, because she wasn't even that crazy good in the first place. As a casual player who doesn't care about the meta, this is such a spit on the face. hoyo being hoyo just like always smh 🤦

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 4 місяці тому +1

      The "baby girl Raiden Mei" wasnt really necessery but I got ur point.
      Even if they made better electro dps this would not change raiden position shes way more versatile but I doubt any remaining Harbinger will be electro

    • @ArJay1688
      @ArJay1688 4 місяці тому +11

      What's with all of you assuming she'd powercreep Raiden? Their kits are very different.

    • @masterchef175
      @masterchef175 4 місяці тому +10

      @@ArJay1688 their kits are indeed different, but they are still both damage dealers. Just because Raiden has support capabilities doesn't mean she isn't. The point here is as I've mentioned already that Clorinde doesn't even do anything asides from dealing damage heck she doesn't even have off field application and battery like Raiden, her elemental infusion cancels out when you swap to another character(unlike Keqing) and yet their damage are still pretty much on par with each other except Raiden has more utility which is quite frustrating. They just straight up nerfed her on field time even though she's an on field dps which is ridiculous. She's at the bottom of the pack along with Raiden and Childe for longest skill cd, but Raiden has hitlag and if played correctly Childe is pretty much fine in his rotations. Damage wise she's going to be fine, but looking at it from a fun perspective it's just so stupid that your favorite character has more uptime than on field, and as a casual player this nerf is so unnecessary. I guess Hoyo doesn't like seeing people have fun 🤦

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому +5

      The good thing about clorinde is that she can use TF but yeah... hoyo HATES the idea of raiden being outclassed at c0. I'm going c1r1 with TF and won't ever get raiden cons if I can avoid it

    • @lekoesic
      @lekoesic 4 місяці тому +1

      I'll have to disagree with how you said all harbingers get special treatment. Childe is only really good in one team and wanderer requires very high investment to compete with some of the other 5 stars... it really is only arlecchino and her team's damage isn't even that much higher than tao's in most cases.

  • @FayinKay
    @FayinKay 4 місяці тому +131

    I'm quite upset, I really wouldn't mind if her damage numbers were lowered. But making her uptime and rotations even more awkward??? Like please I wanted her because she looked fun to play :(

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому +14

      Same. Using TF isn't a big deal but still. Hoyo hates anyone outclassing c0 raiden

    • @alexprus7953
      @alexprus7953 4 місяці тому +1

      I wanted her because one of the early leaks said she'd have flexible rotations 😅

    • @theskywalker8416
      @theskywalker8416 4 місяці тому +1

      True, 7.5s is not bad but 16s CD is very awkward, just put that down to 14s for smooth combat experience ! They can lower her dmg down too idc

    • @zippo718
      @zippo718 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh well time to get Furina cons and Alhaitham.

    • @starshower9244
      @starshower9244 4 місяці тому

      I am sure if you get her c1 or c2 she works perfect, just spend more money lul

  • @Demigod2NE3
    @Demigod2NE3 4 місяці тому +124

    They didn't want Clorinde to powercrept Raiden so they gave her almost the same duration as Raiden's burst

    • @Ei_Shogun
      @Ei_Shogun 4 місяці тому +47

      Clorinde wouldn’t power creep raiden either way since raiden is just way more versatile. Yes she could have had more dps than raiden tho that doesn’t really make her stronger as a character. But I think clorinde is currently underwhelming since does more than just dmg during her burst. Clorinde at the very least should be able to do more dps than raiden at least but hoyo just doesn’t like releasing strong electro dps’. I was hoping clorinde would get arlecchino treatment and be on par with the best dps’ but these nerfs just make me lose hope in electro dps’.

    • @root4132
      @root4132 4 місяці тому +4

      This is not True, Raiden have hitlag, this means duration of Clorinde is less than Raiden

    • @eldritchtoilets210
      @eldritchtoilets210 4 місяці тому +17

      *puts conspiracy hat on*
      Raiden-like characters (design wise) are a staple in their games, the people at Hoyo clearly love that archetype. I wouldn't be surprised if they gutted Clorinde as a way to keep Raiden as the top Electro DPS.

    • @worldwidefunnyguy
      @worldwidefunnyguy 4 місяці тому +5

      @@eldritchtoilets210not to mention they just made her uglier than raiden ☠️

    • @eldritchtoilets210
      @eldritchtoilets210 4 місяці тому +5

      @@worldwidefunnyguy I remember someone in a comment section mentioning how her design was reminiscent of a hammerhead shark 😂
      That stuck with me lol.

  • @blacksongoku312
    @blacksongoku312 4 місяці тому +57

    Guess Clorinde will only be strong in lore now 😅😅

  • @xanderx3788
    @xanderx3788 4 місяці тому +21

    I have highly invested Raiden, keqing and cyno. I totally don't need more electro units. The reason why I was gonna pull for clorinde is only because I love her pew pew dash pew pew dash gameplay. I couldn't care less about damage, so I prefarmed.
    And now the nerf the E duration. Why are they so hellbent on making it impossible to have fun in this game?!

  • @haxx1707
    @haxx1707 4 місяці тому +22

    I already pre farmed her materials was really looking forward to her, now I guess I am looking forward to trying out wuthering waves good job to the person who decided to unnecessarily nerf her fun!

    • @sumsumisum
      @sumsumisum 4 місяці тому +1

      I’m also excited for Wuthering wave! Can’t wait to try it

    • @Kenny-ot4yx
      @Kenny-ot4yx 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree with this sentiment entirely

  • @lotus2284
    @lotus2284 4 місяці тому +131

    E nerf is so cringe holy fun not allowed

  • @hxyv-
    @hxyv- 4 місяці тому +59

    I’m so sad she didn’t get the arlecchino treatment :(

    • @This_Origami
      @This_Origami 4 місяці тому +1

      what treatment did she get.

    • @Nanii_nani
      @Nanii_nani 4 місяці тому +34

      @@This_Origami arlecchino got massive buffs in v2, v3 and v4, clorinde got a massive buff in v2 and then a random nerf in v3 and no changes in v4, we are basically back to v1 in terms of dps but v1 was better because you dont need TF and you can use her on overload in v1, now she is stuck in aggravate and TF set
      Edit : i found out that v4 clorinde does slightly less damage than v1, their first rotation is similar at 1.1M but 2nd rotation, v4 gets ALOT worse

    • @lupito092
      @lupito092 4 місяці тому

      Sorry but, what's TF?​@@Nanii_nani

    • @jouiboui
      @jouiboui 4 місяці тому

      ​@@lupito092 Thundering Fury

    • @lupito092
      @lupito092 4 місяці тому

      @@jouiboui oh ok, tyyyy

  • @rexevan6714
    @rexevan6714 4 місяці тому +46

    7.5s with 8.5 downtime, I absolutely will play 4p TF on her.
    with 4p TF, You also can burst AFTER 5N3E to reduce her skill cooldown 1 more time.

    • @Nesteayy
      @Nesteayy 4 місяці тому +8

      Burst takes 1,5-2 Seconds - Skill 7,5
      So she will be on field for like 9-10 seconds
      So 6 seconds for the team rotation, thats fine tbh
      I tested it an it is pretty much Impossible to use Skill n ult on evey teammember in under 7 seconds
      Most time it takes around 8 seconds
      Even if i use Fischl and only use skill or ult, u will need around 6-7 seconds
      So in conclusion, clorinde will be rdy even without tf Set
      The only important thing here is, that U need a team with low cd's cz ur Ration is pretty short
      A Team like nahida, kazuha, fisch would be great for that and is also her best in slot on calculations

    • @meg4876
      @meg4876 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Nesteayy (clorinde-kazuha-nahida-fischl)
      if she burst every rotation, the rotation is about 14-15s. she has 1 or 2s awkward time waiting her skill cooldown. but if clorinde dont burst every rotation then she has 3-4s awkward time

  • @XSkimmilkmanX
    @XSkimmilkmanX 4 місяці тому +44

    Clorinde looking kinda sketchy to pull for now. Might have to just save for Natlan

    • @TheLastAirbender3468
      @TheLastAirbender3468 4 місяці тому +2

      Same , I was considering pulling for her but right now I'm starting to think to just save for Natlan

    • @YaiphabaNgangom-u4g
      @YaiphabaNgangom-u4g 4 місяці тому +1

      Still going to pull for her I don't care . Bcs I am not going to pull for furina and going to save for colombina and Pyro archon

    • @LiN0K_
      @LiN0K_ 4 місяці тому +1

      I’m probably going for Furina. I was hesitant to pull for her at first (cuz I’m not a big fan of her) but now that she’s one of the best supports, I figured it’d be worth it 100%

    • @saguaro6122
      @saguaro6122 4 місяці тому

      @@YaiphabaNgangom-u4g get a furina she is 10x better then clorinde

    • @YaiphabaNgangom-u4g
      @YaiphabaNgangom-u4g 4 місяці тому

      @@saguaro6122 nah I actually need a Dps for my account for a long time I have already have many support characters like yelan , kazuha , c6 Bennett, Jean , c6Layla and c6 xingque for my account. I need an on field dps for my accountand. Also I want to pull for her for many months

  • @adeniyimarvellous8259
    @adeniyimarvellous8259 4 місяці тому +24

    Sethos multiplier rn does feel practicable, he would deal high damage that would put him up there with 4 star dps like gaming, heizou and yanfei

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 4 місяці тому +1

      And thank god for that

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 4 місяці тому +4

      And he is electro so can cheat out damage wtih quickbloom stuff as well.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +7

      Gaming is broken as a 4 star DPS though. At C6, he can rival Hu Tao when it comes to high damage numbers.

    • @Gelatussy
      @Gelatussy 4 місяці тому +6

      ​@@ShevaAlpha2002I love Gaming he is my first level 80 4 star (sorry bennett) but in some cases C6 Yanfei does more damage than Klee, C6 Heizou can out damage Wanderer if we'll built and C6 Sethos may not be different so he will probably power creep a electro character.

    • @adeniyimarvellous8259
      @adeniyimarvellous8259 4 місяці тому

      @@Gelatussy yeah cus

  • @helios._.
    @helios._. 4 місяці тому +36

    I dont really understand hoyoverse sometimes lie clorande is alr in a bad spot being right after arle so making her kit be just kinda sorta good literally makes them lose out on money. I was fully ready to pull/whale for her and her signature and even cons but why would i pull for a side grade to a character i alr have heavily invested on

    • @globax4208
      @globax4208 4 місяці тому +4

      I feel the same as you, but I think I have an explaination, If you look at the roster you see that they give certain characters more power if they sacrafice some other stats for example hp manipulation(Bennet healing only to 70%, Hutao losing HP when using Skill, Arlecchino not able to be healed, Furina taking Hp...), but Clorinde does not have that directly.
      My personal theory is that one of her best teams will be healerless Furina teams bc she can heal herself and Furina has overheal passive that heals the team so she gains fanfair points, but they nerfed clorinde healing recently too, so what is the solution, get Furina C2 and who is in the same patch after Clorinde?
      I am cooking or am I coping hard? You decide xD

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade 4 місяці тому +6

      @@globax4208 I think you care too much for a game this easy. It’s not that serious. Play whom you like for power level is irrelevant. 🤦‍♂️

    • @root4132
      @root4132 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@SinjadeStop with this copium dude

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade 4 місяці тому

      @@root4132 what copium? That the game is easy or do you actually think power level matters? If so, you’re dumb af. 😂

    • @Iate6rockswheniwastwo
      @Iate6rockswheniwastwo 4 місяці тому +5

      As a meta player, I'm actually pretty happy. She's still pretty good, but not the best.
      I don't want ALL of the new characters to powercreep.

  • @Kirito_wr
    @Kirito_wr 4 місяці тому +44

    I think hoyo just wants less people to pull for her

    • @Kuwukuru
      @Kuwukuru 4 місяці тому +1

      Why so?

    • @oifelixcomeherebroe3831
      @oifelixcomeherebroe3831 4 місяці тому +4

      Gotta keep raiden 🔛🔝

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 3 місяці тому

      I love Raiden but she’s been out for like 3 years. It’s not crazy to have a hypercarry electro DPS that outperforms Raiden when Raiden’s kit is balanced around being a support as well as DPS. Clorinde deserves better!

  • @AkaJaeshii
    @AkaJaeshii 4 місяці тому +18

    Great, the only character i wanted and she gets nerf, why i play hsr instrad

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому +1

      Brother , thats the absolute best outcome for mihoyo. Moving players from a hard to develop open world action rpg to a linear turn based one is every company's wet dream.

    • @justawalter9752
      @justawalter9752 4 місяці тому

      Look I understand that you’re disappointed but it’s not like she’s bad. She still very much good enough to clear and at least competes with other electro carries. You shouldn’t expect every character in this to be incredibly good. Otherwise the game would just powercreep characters into oblivion. Get her because you like and she’ll be fun

  • @Shadowenclave47
    @Shadowenclave47 4 місяці тому +6

    Honestly, at this point i feel like Archons, Sovereigns and Harbingers (and any other super lore important character) are the only characters actually worth my primos. Everytime i get excited for a character that isn't one of them i get disappointed every single time (Eula, Yae, Dehya, Chiori and now Clorinde). Im just going to hard save for C2 Murata/Pyo Archon, Xbalanque (who is rumored to be the Pyro Dragon) and Columbina and ignore everyone else in Natlan.

    • @alcazarzaray
      @alcazarzaray 4 місяці тому +3

      Not really, Fontaine so far has had hit after hit. Lyney, Navia, Wriothesley, Xianyun. Depending on who you ask, Chiori is a great support, too.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@alcazarzarayC0 Chiori and C0 Wriothesley feel like incomplete characters though.

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ShevaAlpha2002 wriothesley iz a flexible cryo unit and is fine at c0. Yes he's better at c1 but he's not garbage. The con however is worth it.
      C0 chiori is fine. Much better than other geo units for making navia's bullets [c1 is better won't lie] but she's not garbage either as a sub dps and crystalizer

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому

      Why would you settle for c0 Wriothesley? Lol he's busted at c1
      Id rather play Wrio than Navia or arlekino. No primogems for those 2, instead, I get c1 Wrio and his weapon

  • @vict632
    @vict632 4 місяці тому +12

    There's a video floating around of a full Clorinde team rotation (w/ whimsy set) and it didn't seem *That bad* , if a bit awkward since the stance ends a bit earlier than you'd expect.
    But it turns out that footage is *from before the uptime nerf* lmao, Hoyo why?? she looked fine before the nerf.. she wasn't gonna be a top DPS anyway and she doesn't have to be.

    • @litrix4642
      @litrix4642 4 місяці тому +9

      Fr I don't understand, you want money the players are willing to spend good money on a good character, specially someone who's been so hyped for a while
      And then you suddenly decide to nerf her immediately making loss
      Imma still pull tho lol 💀

    • @vict632
      @vict632 4 місяці тому +2

      @@litrix4642 Yeah same im too deep into prefarming for her.. unless they drop a chronicled banner on 4.7 👀

    • @shonenhikada9254
      @shonenhikada9254 4 місяці тому +1

      Yes, Mihoyo paid actor, I'm sure you and your colleagues are the only ones who saw this video.

    • @shonenhikada9254
      @shonenhikada9254 4 місяці тому

      Yes, Mihoyo paid actor, I'm sure you and your colleagues are the only ones who saw this video.

    • @vict632
      @vict632 4 місяці тому +5

      @@shonenhikada9254 Bruh, read my comment in it's entirety.. did you just reply after reading the first paragraph? I said she looked fine enough *but the video was recorded BEFORE the nerf*
      I imagine she's rather awkward to play post-nerf since now there should be a noticeable 1-2 seconds of downtime after going through the other 3 teammates.
      I was being critical of Hoyo, not agreeing with them.
      Also the video is nothing especial you can probably find it on reddit.

  • @PorcelainGeostructure
    @PorcelainGeostructure 4 місяці тому +38

    Nerfing clorinde is so Unbased and cringeworthy

  • @dan2h9
    @dan2h9 4 місяці тому +2

    so arlecchino gets the best of treatments but clorinde gets nerfed in terms of rotations and skill uptime? man hoyoverse genshin balancing department really sucks, whoever says otherwise needs a reality check, sabotaging their own characters

  • @picklerick2861
    @picklerick2861 4 місяці тому +3

    I'll be pulling for Sigewinne so those buffs are very nice for me. The increase to skill damage will make my nahida even stronger YIPPEE. I don't have Kokomi or really any hydro support except xingqiu and I'm severely lacking healers other than Bennett and Qiqi so she'll be a very vital character for me.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +2

      I hope you get your Melusine nurse!

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому +2

      good luck on your pulls!

  • @lastsecond959
    @lastsecond959 4 місяці тому +8

    It would make sense if the CD is also reduced, but unfortunately, it's not.

  • @frraiden
    @frraiden 4 місяці тому +72

    Three new characters and they're all mid... truly impressive

    • @blacksongoku312
      @blacksongoku312 4 місяці тому +41

      Truly a Hoyo moment of all time

    • @pekboy2000
      @pekboy2000 4 місяці тому +15

      Hey it had to happen sometime, after all Fontaine hasn't missed with all of its characters till now. Even if it happens to be a character that I was looking forward to! (Not me taking a liking to Dehya in Sumeru Part 2)

    • @akashneogi
      @akashneogi 4 місяці тому +20

      ​@@pekboy2000 u forgot chiori ig.. she at c0 is just not complete and I don't tbink wrio is as good as the others at c0 either

    • @Nolziv01
      @Nolziv01 4 місяці тому +1

      This. This is the last time they are disappointing me cause I'm not gonna play Genshin anymore. First dehya, then wriothesley and now clorinde. Fk u hoyo.

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому

      ​@akashneogi but at c0 she is still amazing for navia and wrio is useable regardless. But c1 makes both insane and c6 wriothesley can 1 shot the seahorse on floor 12. He's also overall the most versatile cryo unit

  • @nathanaelsoleman2238
    @nathanaelsoleman2238 4 місяці тому +28

    Was going to bench Keqing for her but that 1.5 second decrease duration is actually so cringe lmfao, i'd rather invest more on keqing tbf

    • @hyperface2833
      @hyperface2833 4 місяці тому +2

      I don’t think it would be a problem if her dmg makes up for it and her dmg is strong and she may be changed again there’s still one V left so we just gotta hope

    • @eldritchtoilets210
      @eldritchtoilets210 4 місяці тому +4

      ​​@@hyperface2833wait I thought V4 was the last beta patch?
      Don't do that, don't give me hope T_T

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 4 місяці тому

      V4 is finalizing characters kits. Everything after that is just copium but changes post V4 happened in the past so I guess they still have hopes​@@eldritchtoilets210

    • @dubstepforever99
      @dubstepforever99 4 місяці тому

      @@hyperface2833 you cant even use chlorinde with fischl anymore they nerfed that so keqing is actually better just because you can use fischl and proc her a4

    • @shonenhikada9254
      @shonenhikada9254 4 місяці тому

      @@hyperface2833 it doesn't and no. Clearly, Mihoyo pays you.

  • @hudsonbruno8543
    @hudsonbruno8543 4 місяці тому +4

    tbf i don't feel bad about the clorinde nerfs, her fans were real brave talking sht about sigewinne and saying how she's the worst character, comparing both of them when they have 2 opposite roles, sigewinne is indeed a sup and she's fine the way it is, unlike clorinde that is just another electro woman and a raiden downgrade, so i say it was well deserved.

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому +1

      Agreed

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому +1

      Ignoring the fact that you're cherrypicking , even after the nerfs Clorinde is better off than sigelose. Siggy is dehya 2.0.
      All i ever saw of clorinde fans were them wishing siggy fans (all 4 of them) best of luck and buffs , maybe don't get baited by trolls.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +1

      I agree with you. Sigewinne's current kit after her recent buffs is fine. I think some people just doompost her too much like how Kokomi was doomposted in her initial release.

  • @ShevaAlpha2002
    @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +18

    I'm glad that Sigewinne somehow gets buffs even if her kit is still a little bit messy.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      However, I feel bad for Clorinde wanters...

  • @LiN0K_
    @LiN0K_ 4 місяці тому +6

    I farmed Almost 10k primos for Clorinde😭😭😭😭 only to be left with disappointment

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 4 місяці тому +3

    I guess this makes TF actually viable as a potential BiS for her. So she gets cd reduction and doesn’t need to waste time on supports before swapping back in to do big damage.

    • @josetomasrivera5782
      @josetomasrivera5782 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah now its better, BUT, BoL set is better as a set. So a unit who use BoL and his BiS isnt the BoL set its super boring. This is a way of forcing us to use Tf set. Its like a joke.

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому

      ​@@josetomasrivera5782 I'm sure people will find a way to max out BoL set in abyss but might end up being the c6r5 leviathans specifically

  • @Chi3fFox
    @Chi3fFox 4 місяці тому +32

    Got so hyped for Clroinde now i dont even care glad i dont prefarm for characters time to save for Jade Cutter

  • @Gssy2x
    @Gssy2x 4 місяці тому +3

    thank you for the info , and great vod

  • @zen7953
    @zen7953 4 місяці тому +3

    Can't believe clorinde got the dehya treatment i was planning to pull for her because her animations looked cool but seeing the changes i'll rather save natlan. Hope they bufff her

    • @Kenny-ot4yx
      @Kenny-ot4yx 4 місяці тому +1

      Lol she's not dehya. But I'm very disappointed as well that they just kinda butchered her kit for 0 reason. Do they even want money??

  • @ShiJin-p8e
    @ShiJin-p8e 4 місяці тому +2

    Having second thoughts on pulling clorinde at this point

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому +1

      best to wait on release for actual testing!

  • @makomuru
    @makomuru 4 місяці тому +2

    THEY NERFED CLORINDE. I'LL NEVER FORGIVE YOU GENSHIN!!

  • @carjac820
    @carjac820 4 місяці тому +2

    Hoyo really wanted its players to try Wuthering Waves.

  • @frankxu4795
    @frankxu4795 4 місяці тому

    I think that uptime nerf is aiming at making clorinde a quick swap dual core dps, kinda have the flavor of Navia in a way

  • @jaimydamen6956
    @jaimydamen6956 4 місяці тому +22

    Not gonna lie if they dont refert this change to the time it was its gonna be a skip because the downtime is gonna be so bad its just like cyno for me
    I have started a war and i love it

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 4 місяці тому +22

      Bro cyno burst has a 1 second cool down.
      I swear people in genshin comm just have hive mind mentality. Geniunely no one has their own opinions. You dont even know why you dont like cyno so you just say rubbish like "his downtime is too much". Like bruh this can't be real.

    • @chokeolatte
      @chokeolatte 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@putent9623 facts, they just like shitting on cyno for no reason

    • @jaimydamen6956
      @jaimydamen6956 4 місяці тому +4

      Let me just say that against bosses hes fine because of nahida but the prob with cyno is not that hes bad its just in group enemies scenarios him being a hypercarry with a 20 sec lasting ult is really bad because in those type of situations you need to re aply all your buffs and then you lose your infusion so you have to wait this is a little better if you have baizhu because nahida as a Dendro ap just kills everything so fast so im not saying hes super bad but mainly with how the game is know and that buffs in most cases dont last that long hypercarry characters like itto cyno and others like this r just mid look at all the meta characters Arlecchino can swap out whenever navia van swap out when ever neuvilette can also swap when ever so calm your tiits breathe and just leave it at that

    • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
      @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому +9

      @@jaimydamen6956they definitely aren’t reverting the nerf , they know people will pull for clorinde no matter what

    • @putent9623
      @putent9623 4 місяці тому

      @@jaimydamen6956 dogs*** points. Bro i have never seen a arlechino run effectively make use of her perma infusion. Same with navia. Such a bad point. If your navia team is Bennet xiangling, chiori or furina, switching from navia to any of them is a DPS loss since none of them do anything meaningful on field. Again, hive mind mentality. Your what companies and the government like, a sheep that can't think for themselves. Perma infusion is good but not for the asinine reasons you gave.

  • @alexferrier5732
    @alexferrier5732 4 місяці тому +2

    You know, I have a record of only unintentionally liking characters that end up getting nerfed in beta or come out being mid or even worse (Shenhe, Dehya, Wrio) with the only exception of Arlecchino who I liked since I saw her 6 months ago and ended up being busted af (felt good for a change).
    This time around I never liked Clorinde cause her design, so feels nice to avoid all the beta buffs-nerfs rollercoaster and drama, Im just sitting watching this dumpster fire from afar drinking tea 🍵.
    I feel the pain of the future clorinde mains tho, been there, but stay strong lads and play yo girl regardless.

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому

      Wrio is busted at c1 though. He's the second strongest after Neuv. Also, arlekino suxks

  • @justapasserbyrandomperson9325
    @justapasserbyrandomperson9325 4 місяці тому +2

    Sethos won this fr lol
    This makes it possible to go full EM on him and still do decent damage, which means while he's a 4*, he'll be really good as a electro driver for EM based teams (not sure yet if he can proc hyperbloom, probably not, but if he can, he'll be broken), which makes him really good in his own niche with only Kuki as competition, since all other electro chars scale purely off attack

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      I think Sethos's elemental skill can trigger hyperbloom based on this info from HomDGCat: homdgcat.wiki/gi/char?lang=EN#_Sethos

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому

      Sadly Sethos is 4* DPS which means he'll never be as strong as 5*s.

    • @Sansrival1113
      @Sansrival1113 4 місяці тому

      ​@@woodykusaki9970 Gaming would like to have a word with you

  • @goddamnarshia
    @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому +3

    "Mr john da wei mihoyo! A competitor is coming out with a focus on gameplay! What do we do!" "Put 3 characters in the game and make them all shit to play!"

  • @XiaosBoy_
    @XiaosBoy_ 4 місяці тому +7

    I think I'll just skip all of 4.7... i already have C2 Raiden and i use her in Hyperbloom mostly so yeah 😂... I am curious whether we will get a new char in 4.8 or it's just Gonne be a summer island's rerun patch..
    Ps : Just a quick question will you be making Wuthering waves content? Are you interested in that stuff or just Gonna stick to Genshin only?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому

      Funny you ask that, I was planning to make a post about Wuthering Waves content soon 😅I'm 100% playing it, however, I still haven't really taken the time to understand what the game is about. I'm pretty blind atm, so we'll see what happens.

    • @betulla96
      @betulla96 4 місяці тому +1

      Playing C2 Raiden in hyperbloom is criminal when she could be hitting 400k slashes, but if you enjoy that you do you lol

    • @XiaosBoy_
      @XiaosBoy_ 4 місяці тому +1

      @@betulla96 it's just that i end up playing newer units.. like Neuvillete, Lyney , Arlecchino that I kinda bench the others and Since I have to swap the artifacts Everytime I switch builds.. me being lazy just play her in Hyperbloom lol 😂

    • @XiaosBoy_
      @XiaosBoy_ 4 місяці тому

      @@anddad wow that's Cool! Don't feel pressured or anything... I was curious cause you make pretty good guides and assessment of units and such... Hope you enjoy the game as well! ❤️

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому +1

      @@XiaosBoy_ Thanks for the kind words! Can't wait to have some fun with a new (non-Hoyo) game!

  • @AMWGX
    @AMWGX 4 місяці тому +2

    Still going for clorinde my account can do the abyss with ease so not worried about nerfed characters well except if they nerf her like Deyha then I pass on that character 😂

    • @DJ-Armani
      @DJ-Armani 4 місяці тому +1

      this is what i’m saying !! people are acting like they nerfed her into the ground like deyha

  • @z0tizm
    @z0tizm 4 місяці тому +3

    skipped arlecchino for clorinde plus already farmed her mats and books so i hope shes good pls hoyo😭😭😭

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому +1

      Nahida, furina, baizhu
      Cheveruse, sara/yae, thoma are few teams to try out with her. Just use TF for her

    • @z0tizm
      @z0tizm 4 місяці тому

      @@nobody-xh6ii ok I'll try!(btw what's tf?)

    • @arcaana547
      @arcaana547 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@z0tizm thundering fury

    • @z0tizm
      @z0tizm 4 місяці тому

      @@arcaana547 ohhh thx imma pre farm

    • @Nanii_nani
      @Nanii_nani 4 місяці тому

      @@nobody-xh6ii thundering fury doesnt work on overload though no?? I practiced overload keqing for clorinde and i could barely proc its effect that too only when i burst, maybe they have a different icd but we'll see

  • @kneeggah3752
    @kneeggah3752 4 місяці тому +3

    It's Chlover
    (Dehya 2.0)

  • @Kenny-ot4yx
    @Kenny-ot4yx 4 місяці тому

    She doesn't have hit lag she's doing ranged hits. There's no hitlag on that. So it's a real 7.5 seconds.

  • @ito4510
    @ito4510 4 місяці тому +1

    Glad I didn't skip arlecchino,thank god she was too good to be skipped, I would've regretted my decision so bad after watching this video

  • @goddamnarshia
    @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому +1

    Its rumored that if WuWa is too successful, mihoyo's attempt for bringing back players is releasing a 40 minute video of the balancing team with the liveleak logo above it

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому

      Clorinde should be nerfed some more.

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому

      @@woodykusaki9970 hopefully mihoyo bootlickers are part of the liveleak video too

  • @schonkigplavuis8850
    @schonkigplavuis8850 4 місяці тому +4

    mannnn i've saved 4 months to get chlorinde and now she's mid...:

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому

      It's your time now waifu simps. It was male pullers time before but we've taken a rest from it currently.

  • @jotarokujo312
    @jotarokujo312 4 місяці тому

    Imo 3 actually good characters came out of Fontaine are Furina, Neuvillette and Arlecchino.
    I have 2 these, gonna get Father on her rerun for sure. For now I'm pulling for Navia.

  • @IngvarGWT
    @IngvarGWT 4 місяці тому +8

    I really wanted Clo to be strong. But it seems they want her to be nothing special. Okay then, another skip (Arle i just did not like; Clo i like, but she needs to be strong enough to justify pulling). Ig i ll just get C3 for Furina and wait for next Archon & best dps in Natlan

    • @ammarnk9260
      @ammarnk9260 4 місяці тому +3

      Ngl this doesn't sound like a fun way to play the game imo

    • @XSkimmilkmanX
      @XSkimmilkmanX 4 місяці тому

      C2 already more than enough for Furina, better to pull someone else instead

    • @IngvarGWT
      @IngvarGWT 4 місяці тому

      @@XSkimmilkmanX remember that C3 is a modest boost yes, but boost to the whole account :D But at this point i ll likely go for C4 + signature (instead of festering) or all the way to C6

    • @XSkimmilkmanX
      @XSkimmilkmanX 4 місяці тому

      @@IngvarGWT As long as you’re happy, ig

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ammarnk9260I was about to say this. Seems so weird and sad way of olaying but who am i to judge ? To each their own

  • @jake_cobbb
    @jake_cobbb 4 місяці тому

    As a clorinde wanter, this makes me think twice on pulling for her. Might as well wait for 5.0 to earn more primos and save my guaranteed pull.

  • @mrmastaofdesasta6994
    @mrmastaofdesasta6994 4 місяці тому

    ... I don't mind that too much, since I don't really spend that much time optimizing my rotations and generally put two DPSs into my teams anyway, so I can easily compensate for that.

  • @eternalblizzard70
    @eternalblizzard70 4 місяці тому +2

    Idk why hoyo ruined chlorinde like that. I was so excited for her and farmed everything for her. Now she got this nerf which makes her weird 😔 idk what to do now

  • @Azamu_
    @Azamu_ 4 місяці тому +1

    Hoyo just said “F you, Clorinde! We ain’t making you better than an Archon (Raiden) just for lols“

  • @donkey_mediocre7246
    @donkey_mediocre7246 4 місяці тому +3

    They probably relised they dont want to power creep raiden

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому

      Not at c0 anyways. Can't powercreep their favorite child

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia 4 місяці тому

      ​@@nobody-xh6iibut their child is shit anyway what is this narrative 😭 they never gave a shit in the first place , she was always c2 bait , the community just slapped 3 of the best supports on her at c0 and thought they did something

  • @edenianwidow5443
    @edenianwidow5443 4 місяці тому

    what a shame for Clorinde, i planned to go for c3 anyway so hopefully that makes up for it

  • @LongDeadArtist
    @LongDeadArtist 4 місяці тому +2

    Clorinde clunky nerfs are sad :( BUT LESGO SIGEWINNE BUFFS

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +4

      Maybe Sigewinne has a chance to get Kokomi treatment after all where she will become a better character than expected.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ShevaAlpha2002 hopefully she ends up being secretly buffed. like i heard Kokomi was Secretly buffed when she released like i heard they reduced her ICD.

    • @usmanya5110
      @usmanya5110 4 місяці тому +1

      ​​@@ShevaAlpha2002i wonder if her burst should do a big nuke heal based on the damage of her burst like a big ass nuke and heals the entire of 50% of the damage dealt that way her kit could make more sense.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      ​@@usmanya5110I don't expect much from Hoyoverse to buff Sigewinne's current kit further. I think they will only give her one of these buffs for her elemental burst:
      1. Her elemental burst applies hydro twice than once due to her new ICD of 1 second of her hydro application from her burst.
      2. Slightly increase her HP-scaling for her burst damage. Increase from 21% of her own HP to 25% or 26% for her maximum talent level for her burst.
      3. Decrease the cooldown of her elemental burst from 18s to either 14s or 15s.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      I don't think one of these buffs can make Sigewinne a broken support so Hoyoverse shouldn't lower their standards at balancing new characters. They can't afford another Dehya mistake.

  • @dyanrb4876
    @dyanrb4876 4 місяці тому +1

    At first, I've planed to pull Clorinde. But now I'm doubt about it. So maybe I will skip her and waiting for other character.
    I also planning to get Alhaitham & Neuvillette since I missed both of them.

  • @jorgedr5835
    @jorgedr5835 4 місяці тому +1

    I was saving for Clorinde she looked so good but after the nerfs meh... Hoyo being Hoyo

  • @ChiyoTachi
    @ChiyoTachi 4 місяці тому +1

    This video is spreading propaganda saying she is on par with raiden when her Tced numbers are all copium, at best she can challenge cyno, I swear people are puffing too much copium.

  • @ljlbobby
    @ljlbobby 4 місяці тому +1

    Sigewinne has no room in Furina team. Since Neuvilette is already hydro, you can’t afford another hydro character. While if you want super bloom, baizhu is a better option.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      While Sigewinne cannot be used in Neuvillette teams, she will still be useful on Hu Tao's double hydro team with Furina so you can use Kazuha over Xianyun for more offensive anemo support.

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +1

      Other Sigewinne's teams:
      - Yoimiya/Furina/Sigewinne/Zhongli
      - Wanderer/Faruzan/Furina/Sigewinne
      - Sigewinne/Nahida/Fischl/Yae

    • @Personpersonpersonperson
      @Personpersonpersonperson 4 місяці тому +1

      You know furina has more teams than just neuvillette?

  • @zysto9885
    @zysto9885 4 місяці тому

    I wanted her so badly but now im reconsidering saving for navia rerun

  • @xIem0n
    @xIem0n 4 місяці тому +2

    hyv is so stupid smth like shitvilette can stay as he is but clorinde who never was broken from the start gets nerfed

    • @Rinashita
      @Rinashita 4 місяці тому +1

      they nerf chiori which barely can pull her leg and actually buff arle like crazy, i think the balancing have bias to certain character lmao

  • @hollow_universe42
    @hollow_universe42 4 місяці тому +3

    crying rn wtf hoyo????????

  • @res6148
    @res6148 4 місяці тому

    Her uptime doesn’t even allow 3 full skills again which is just dumb

  • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
    @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому +5

    Sigewinne definitely is a furina expansion pack primarily for neuvi teams cc,time wide heal, buff, droplet, she’s definitely a bait pull but non the less ok

    • @chokeolatte
      @chokeolatte 4 місяці тому +10

      definitely not for neuvi

    • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
      @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому

      @@chokeolatteshe has some synergy with him providing droplets and such

    • @ZesshiSips1904
      @ZesshiSips1904 4 місяці тому

      Neuvi doesn't need more droplets, E + burst already giving him enough to do 3 charges

    • @LauraJinkins-pi8sv
      @LauraJinkins-pi8sv 4 місяці тому

      @@ZesshiSips1904 if he’s using 3 hydro he loses 2 droplets if sigewinne provides one and you have c1 you won’t lose any droplets .

    • @ZesshiSips1904
      @ZesshiSips1904 4 місяці тому

      @@LauraJinkins-pi8sv droplet duration is affected by what character we using ?

  • @dan2h9
    @dan2h9 4 місяці тому

    I genuinely hope wuwa release's going to strike hyv in the balls and let 'em lose a huge percentage of its playerbase bc hyv needs to be HUMBLED VERY QUICKLY. In which world they create goated tier characters like Arlecchino and then proceed to make clunky kits on characters like Sigewinne AND NERF Clorinde as the NATIONAL CHAMPION DUELIST FROM FONTAINE, like this is insane and both of these previously mentioned characters are LIMITED 5 STARS, not even standard chars... smfh.

  • @connor.chan.jazzman
    @connor.chan.jazzman 4 місяці тому +1

    Already prefarmed her boss mats just for her to get nerfed

  • @13LegolasGreenleaf13
    @13LegolasGreenleaf13 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope Sigewinne works well with Wriothesley

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      If you're using Sigewinne with Furina for your Wriothesley's freeze team, it can work. However, current Abyss doesn't work really well for freeze teams for now.

  • @weddingjay04
    @weddingjay04 4 місяці тому +1

    So im good at skipping these last 2 fontainian character, my 5* guaranteed summon will be Alhaitham👌

  • @jeezycata4662
    @jeezycata4662 4 місяці тому +4

    Will probably skip Clorinde, pulled Raiden c2r1 this year and she doesnt have any special synergy with overload or electr charged as many leaker thought. I really want a new Cryo DPS made for burn-melt!

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      Wait for Columbina. I think she's gonna be Cryo main DPS like Wriothesley.

  • @solaswolfer1503
    @solaswolfer1503 4 місяці тому +2

    If it's such a big problem why don't you just use thundering fury?

    • @josetomasrivera5782
      @josetomasrivera5782 4 місяці тому +2

      Thats one of the main problems. She is a BoL unit, so she should use BoL set. BoL set is better than TF. But now they are forcing us to use a set that is worst than BoL set.

    • @solaswolfer1503
      @solaswolfer1503 4 місяці тому +1

      @@josetomasrivera5782 in reality if we look at the difference between using the gladiator and using the new bolt set the difference is very little, not to mention that the new set also needs to be farmed and you have to find the godroll pieces to compete with those that have been farmed in 4 years of gladiator, same thing for the fury, many have farmed it for other PCs and I'm one of those, if this waste of time we have with the new set is so important then surely the fury will compensate for this problem to make us have rotations faster.
      The fact remains that miohyo brings out meaningless characters like Nuveliette and then does these last nerfs for obviously less strong characters

  • @fghjkl48
    @fghjkl48 4 місяці тому +1

    Incredible how Hoyo managed to release two 5-star aggravate drivers and neither of them manage to justify pulling for over keqing.

  • @kkmedi
    @kkmedi 4 місяці тому +6

    I'm not sure whether to choose the clorinde or the alhaitham, can you help me choose? I'm worried that I'll take the clorinde and regret it because possibly the alhaitham gives more damage

    • @bevanthejevan1915
      @bevanthejevan1915 4 місяці тому

      they both use similar supports, but alhaithams teams do more dmg as of now.

    • @trickmonster7905
      @trickmonster7905 4 місяці тому +17

      Alhaitham 100%
      Even if Clorinde gets reverted she is just above Raiden hyper carry which isn’t really amazing
      Alhaitham is top 3 DPS (along with Neuvillette and Arlecchinno)

    • @meg4876
      @meg4876 4 місяці тому

      alhaitham total dmg team is helped by hyperbloom reaction. so maybe alhaitham team will do more dmg than the clorinde team.
      in terms of durability, they both are tanky. alhaitham is healed by kuki and kuki heals a lot. even my alhaitham in the abyss always takes dmg over 200k and he still survives.
      Maybe a little problem with Clorinde is that if she is staggered by the enemy (while in her combo) then her DPS loss will have quite an impact. On the other hand, if alhaitham is staggered, the hyperbloom from kuki will cover the dps loss

    • @Archangel657
      @Archangel657 4 місяці тому +1

      The amount of damage a character can do usually depends on the artifacts they have.

    • @lil_Perro
      @lil_Perro 4 місяці тому

      alhaitham for dmg, clorinde for booba

  • @KCstark.
    @KCstark. 4 місяці тому +1

    Well it was opposite for arle lol she started weak & hence I was sceptical but she ended quite good in the live version lol, so I pulled but well chlorine is meh at end of beta so well now I'm kinda interested in skipping her 😂.
    I personally was happy what she was at the start of beta a stronger c0 raiden, but now at par... well keking is similar.

  • @ElTestok
    @ElTestok 4 місяці тому

    Clorinde doesn't benefit from hitlag in her enhanced state. She shoots with her pistol and her Dash ability pierces.
    Her 7.5s is indeed 7.5s, and it's very short.

  • @snowblack7008
    @snowblack7008 4 місяці тому +4

    There was a new patch (v.4) for all of them no? and there will be another patch (v.5) soon

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому +5

      Is v5 going to be the last Genshin 4.7 beta patch?

    • @Mimori97
      @Mimori97 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@ShevaAlpha2002 yes

    • @ultimachain8677
      @ultimachain8677 4 місяці тому +2

      inb4 v5 still doesn’t change clorinde’s cooldown

    • @abdiabdi3225
      @abdiabdi3225 4 місяці тому +6

      @@ultimachain8677 They'll have to because right now she's Keqing sidegrade, knowing the Chinese side they'll protest that's our greatest hope.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому +2

      I would be surprised if there are any notable changes still to come, but we shall see.

  • @gamze7988
    @gamze7988 4 місяці тому +2

    Hii about sigewinne i couldnt understand how she buffs. I mean after reaching 65k hp that 2800 number, is this added on top of the dmg? Like lets say fischl does 14k without her with her she’ll deal 16800 dmg ? How do we calculate it?

    • @xanderx3788
      @xanderx3788 4 місяці тому +3

      Not quite. It's like yunjin or shenhe buff. That number is applied to the base damage (the one you would get before the elemental goblet and crit damage gets applied).
      Let's say you deal 10k with 100% crit damage. Your base is 5k. Now add 2.8k to that and you get 7.5k. Multiply for 100% crit damage and you get 15k.
      Let's say your crit damage is 200% and you deal 10k. Your base damage is 2.5k. + 2.8k from Sige = 5.3k. Multiply for 200% crit damage = 21.2k
      And so on.

    • @gamze7988
      @gamze7988 4 місяці тому

      @@xanderx3788 ohh I see so it will get sm bigger with percentss thanks for explaining😇 I’m kinda new to the game

  • @itzpurple_queen9711
    @itzpurple_queen9711 4 місяці тому

    Still pulling for her because it’s my obligation as an electro enjoyer

  • @dreampanda431
    @dreampanda431 4 місяці тому +5

    Sad i really wanted her but why bother when i already have Raiden

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 місяці тому +1

      Different playstyle. Different fun. It's an easy game.

    • @abdiabdi3225
      @abdiabdi3225 4 місяці тому +4

      @@JayDamaso78 But what was the point of this nerf, you know just have to stand around as you wait for the cooldowns to end. It's just awkward for awkwardness sake.

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 місяці тому +1

      @@abdiabdi3225 I won't pretend to know until I can test it in practice. Theorycrafters are often wrong these days. My guess is they wanted to alter her playstyle to pack a larger punch in a shorter time...perhaps not also reducing the skill cooldown was an oversight. You're right it doesn't make sense looking in from the outside.

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 4 місяці тому

      Same. My Raiden is c6 and hit like a truck so I dont need more electro dps for now

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому

      Clorinde is more flexible than raiden as a dps imo. I'm going to play with 2 teams personally alongside TF. I can't stand raiden and she's not a dps till c2 anyways. Rather get cons for anyone else.

  • @ahmadmelhem1499
    @ahmadmelhem1499 4 місяці тому

    Well, finale of the deep going to be good for her since she is bond of life too

  • @jono3785
    @jono3785 4 місяці тому

    idk now really, i have keqing that stuck in dendro team and want raw dmg dealer with electro charge/overload random reaction, i have prefarmed everything and have some funky party to try that involve yun jin & echoes. this state with dendro dependent rotation is the worse scenario i can even imagine with her gameplay😭

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому

      Chevreuse overload with Clorinde looked promising in sheets before. But I do worry about this new downtime introduced making the team worse.

  • @lorenzosantoni1576
    @lorenzosantoni1576 4 місяці тому +2

    ehi guys: best set for Sigewinne?

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      Ocean-Hued Clam for both on-field and off-field Sigewinne and Song of Days Past for off-field Sigewinne.

    • @lorenzosantoni1576
      @lorenzosantoni1576 4 місяці тому

      @@ShevaAlpha2002 ty kind sir or kind lady

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      ​@@lorenzosantoni1576Yw.

  • @thirsty1629
    @thirsty1629 4 місяці тому

    Sethos was done so dirty in Cyno story quest I want to pull and build him out of pity

  • @CynotheWhite
    @CynotheWhite 4 місяці тому +1

    Sethos buff? Based

  • @avizz2133
    @avizz2133 3 місяці тому

    This is so fucking unfortunate. Wtf is hoyo doing in the hq bro. I was excited for clorinde until this! Why have high NA atk numbers when it doesn’t have any need to the overall kit. Also still having her skill on a 16 sec CD with these drastic changes is SUCH a turn off

  • @ishibaby8618
    @ishibaby8618 4 місяці тому +1

    Question: is there any HP boy For my SIGEWENNE 😢. Im ftp and im not gonna get her sig weap. Plz i need ftp hp bow😭

    • @ShevaAlpha2002
      @ShevaAlpha2002 4 місяці тому

      Recurve Bow (hopefully you haven't throw the weapon as a fodder).

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому

      3* bow (Recurve Bow) that is available in chests

  • @sam91177
    @sam91177 4 місяці тому

    Glad I pulled C1 Arlecchino instead

  • @JayDamaso78
    @JayDamaso78 4 місяці тому +5

    Imagine using a much weaker artifact set just so you dont have maybe 3 seconds of downtime lol.

    • @Ei_Shogun
      @Ei_Shogun 4 місяці тому

      I might play around this but I’m planning on making her rotations faster since she would loose 1 combo in each rotation.

    • @rohansensei5708
      @rohansensei5708 4 місяці тому +1

      3 seconds of downtime ruins her rotations and lose even more damage in the long run

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 місяці тому

      @rohansensei5708 it extends her rotations...by 3 seconds...maybe. She's not even out. Every beta people cry and whine because that's society these days. Nobody actually uses real life experience when they speak anymore.
      And I gotta tell you, if you need those 3 seconds to clear the abyss...then yeah maybe you should stick to Neuv and Arle.

    • @josetomasrivera5782
      @josetomasrivera5782 4 місяці тому +1

      ​​​@@JayDamaso78 hey listen. Its okay for people to talk. If theres a moment, its now, then is late. Because when a character comes out, theres no turning back mate. If people only wait for the character and test her, if she turns to be keqing level, its over you know? Thats why you shouldnt be mad. They want the best for the character, stop being the white knight of a pixel

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 4 місяці тому

      @josetomasrivera5782 What are even talking about it's over? Lol. As for the rest of what you said...thats confirmation bias, and we're done.

  • @juggernaut6666
    @juggernaut6666 4 місяці тому

    kind of sucks but for me she will still be a massive increase over raiden.

  • @seismicfart
    @seismicfart 4 місяці тому

    Another masterstroke by hoyo🔥🙌

  • @TruePersonaGirl
    @TruePersonaGirl 4 місяці тому

    I knew Arlecchino was broken op prototype exception in term of this garbage Bond of Life.
    Coz zero expierence.
    All new ones will get proper "balance" and be Uuuuuuuunderpowered. lol
    (Nobody talks about Sigewinne, coz shes already the new Qiqi )
    A typical move of clueless designers, not having enough time & ideas for a good balance.
    Stay away from all coming Bond of Life characters.

  • @sewer5800
    @sewer5800 4 місяці тому

    what tier would u put her rn with nerf? and is she viable with basic xinq bennett sucrose rotation?

    • @nobody-xh6ii
      @nobody-xh6ii 4 місяці тому

      I wouldn't use benny due to how much she moves in general. Use TF set on her and replace benny with anyone else. She is on par with c0r1 raiden if you get her weapon too.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому

      The team you mentioned can't work, but I personally wouldn't recommend it, as I would rather have Bennett with another DPS. She's a solid Aggravate DPS (primarily aggravate, but can play in other teams like overload and hyperbloom) performing similarly to C0 Raiden, so I would say she's an above average DPS.

    • @soyeonxxn
      @soyeonxxn 4 місяці тому

      @@anddadis she better than cyno in aggravate/ hyperbloom? I’m asking cause she scales of atk while cyno scales with both atk and EM which should make him the better pick with dendro

    • @anddad
      @anddad  4 місяці тому

      @@soyeonxxn haven't seen good updated cyno calcs, but my assumption is Clorinde > Cyno in Aggravate, Hyperbloom similar, since Cyno's biggest strength is being a hyperbloom driver.

  • @dragunarah8695
    @dragunarah8695 4 місяці тому

    Ig it’s time to save for my boi Wrio.

  • @beastswift8635
    @beastswift8635 4 місяці тому

    Hmm looks like they re tried to do Hu tao C1 moment.exe but old genshin community is not stupid anymore.Right?

  • @Sonicexe-nm1vm
    @Sonicexe-nm1vm 4 місяці тому +2

    LMAO... This is Dehya 2.0

  • @NotAHoyoSlave
    @NotAHoyoSlave 4 місяці тому

    Bro MHY bullying the electro element 😂

  • @B1u3ixx
    @B1u3ixx 4 місяці тому

    They know how to keep their players, when wuthering waves coming next week alrdy XD Genshin can keep it up and ruin it more, so it's easier to move on.

    • @woodykusaki9970
      @woodykusaki9970 4 місяці тому

      That's fine. Only waifu simps will move. We are staying. Male characters got their harsh treatment, now it's your turn waifu simps

  • @whats_goody_gang
    @whats_goody_gang 4 місяці тому

    SHES A CHAMPION DUELIST???

  • @dumartric9561
    @dumartric9561 4 місяці тому

    Why is he dising 4stars like that he has lost his mind talking to a Bennett main

  • @samiam7327
    @samiam7327 4 місяці тому +4

    Woohoo Sethos :D