if that is actually true, then Daniel was a bad teacher and Kreese was a bad teacher. Robbie turned opposite of Daniel's teachings and Hawk turned opposite of Kreese's teachings.
I like how Johnny is so emotional on every interaction with Daniel, it's like he is about to burst out both in anger and in tears. It is consistent with Johnny's story, the issues with his father/stepfather, the situation at home, etc.
The soul they lack is that they're structurally missing a theme, an "armature" (like a sculture has. With no armature, a sculpture has no real structure to it.) A base, a foundation. When done right, a movie resonates in a way that reaches us on a universal level. That's where the "soul" of a film comes from. It doesn't matter if it's corny or "dated"...That is why no matter how corny or dated Star Wars, Rocky, or Karate Kid are, they still work. And are still producing sequels, spinoffs, and whatnot. What you said is accurate and why nothing made today that comes from today's time will matter 30 years from now. Stuff today has no theme, no armature/base, no soul. (Just like our society. And art reflects the society it comes from.)
It’s so relevant too with Cobra Kai now. “Don’t you think your teachers wrong” Johnny eventually realized Kreese was wrong and promised to be different from him whereas Daniel just viewed them both to be the same type of teacher
@@03chapin31 In the beginning of Karate Kid 2(1986). He told his teacher/Sensai that he was sick after he broke his runner up trophy. That's when he actually realized his Sensai evil side.
@Dan Castro yeah something about the blueberry pie incident I believe. I think Johnny was referring to the scene where (what I believe)Johnny placing a blueberry pie as soon as Daniel is about to sit.
Idk man. I thought he was really cheesy & cringe when he was young imo. He's much, much funnier & entertaining now as a middle aged man. That's okay though because all great people & actors like Billy Zabka, Ed O'Neil (aka Al Bundy) & Charlie Murphy absolutely suck when they're young, but kick major ass & are phenomenal in middle age.
Well also he’s got a good script with character development now in cobra Kai. in karate kid he was pretty much told to be a generic bully and that’s what he was for the movie. And also just being older and having more life experience he’s automatically going to be a better actor
Seeing Kreese not even blink when Bobby threw away his belt shows that he never really cared all that much for him and just wanted to use him as a pawn in his game of chess.
@@tvalokibatman6563 he definitely will. I think the sad part is that If they win robby is gonna probably see the larussos move and he didn't know about the deal. He'll realize that kreese was using him and He'll go back to Daniel to apologize but Daniel and the others including louie, anoush, Amanda, Daniel's mom, Anthony, and sam are gonna turn him away. Then he'll realize that he's lost everything. All of them will realize it. It'll go like Robby: Mr larusso, I didn't know about this Daniel: get outta here robby Robby: look im sorry that. Daniel: Get out!!! Louie: leave man, you've done enough Anoush: just go man Robby: ms. Larusso *Amanda looks away and robby glares at sam, turns around and leaves*
The first scene truly shows how messed up emotionally Johnny was as a kid.he had no father figure in his life only a mean and cruel karate teacher who Manipulated his students into his way of thinking
I love that first scene here and wish it stayed in . . . Daniel starts off almost friendly over their issues, focused on the paper. He makes a great point and Johnny agrees deep down, but can't handle it emotionally. It makes his turnaround at the end where he hands him the trophy all the more understandable.
Plus the looks he gives kreese when he tells him to sweep the leg.. wish they kept Daniel calling out kreeses behaviour in. Adds to Johnny's trauma, and how he was just manipulated into behaving the way he did
Bobby is the voice of reason throughout the Karate kid movie and deserves alot more credit than he got. Bobby wasn't as wild as the others, his karate was controlled and smooth. He might have beaten Daniel if Kreese had let him fight his own match.
If he had beaten Daniel would Kreese have still been pissed at him? And guess what, if he had beaten Daniel then Daniel still would have made it to the semifinals (top 4) and even that would have been enough respect to end the bullying problem. This is especially true for when he was facing Johnny. had he lost to Johnny he would have made 2nd place and beaten all of the cobras other than johnny (to boot a very close 2nd place winning 2 of the 5 rounds had the crane kick failed). So in any case the bullying problem was over. Miyagi basically said that when he told Daniel that he did not need to keep fighting that he had nothing more to prove. He had already earned enough respect to solve the bully problem.
@@Zurround that's an excellent point. Clearly most of the cobras at this point were beaten and Daniel had proven himself to them. I think with Daniel it wasn't about winning the tournament but proving he wasn't going to run away from them no more
Bobby was also the runner-up in the previous tournament. I wonder if he represented a different dojo at the time, or if it was an all Cobra Kai finals.
Even though Karate Kid is a legendary movie by itself, Cobra Kai has truly made this already awesome movie even better. That first scene plays so well with what we've learned about Johnny in Cobra Kai's four seasons. Johnny's angry reaction to Daniel's questions shows Johnny's realizing Daniel's correct analysis. Johnny just couldn't handle the truth. The seeds of doubt for his sensei were already planted in this scene.
Johnny and Daniel had more chemistry than any of their love interests. Edit: honestly you guys are taking my comment way too seriously, yes i’m very much aware daniel and johnny are both straight. You don’t have to have romantic chemistry, there are different types of chemistry. I am not shipping them, please stop having an aneurysm over my comment. Thanks.
That last part when Bobby threw his belt down, I'm a Martial Artist, that is the ULTIMATE insult any student can do to their Sensei, that is saying "What you taught me is SHIT"! that spoke volumes to me.
Its almost a continuity error that Bobby is hanging out with Johnny and his buddies shortly before Kreese brutally abuses Johnny because he was not part of that "gang" anymore since he quit the dojo and you would think that he would never want to see Kreese again and being out in the parking lot that might happen.
Johnny was NOT happy about Kreeses dishonorable actions. I think if Johnny had beaten Daniel he would still have shown good sportsmanship congratulating Daniel for a close 2nd place and the bullying problem would have been over. I also think Johnny would have quit the dojo due to the very sad circumstances that led to his closest friend quitting and being so unhappy about Kreese's dishonorable actions. I have a fantasy "alternate universe" ending where the crane kick fails in some way "maybe JOhnny blocks or dodges it or the referee declares it illegal as there was some controversy about the legality of that kick) Johnny is about to be declared the winner by the referee and Johnny silences the man before he can declare him the winner and he tells the ref about ordering Bobby to cripple Daniel and ordering him to sweep the leg which could have caused permanent damage as the leg was already broken and Johnny asks to be disqualified and the ref agrees and gives Daniel the win. And Kreese is so furious about that that he attacks Johnny immediately and not out in the parking lot and Miyagi is right there to restrain him then the security guards put him in handcuffs to await the police. Ally is so impressed with the honor and sportsmanship Johnny showed that she forgives him for all of his transgressions and runs up to him and plants a big kiss right on his lips then jumps into his arms and they end up getting married and having a family together.
The funny part is, Johnny tells him that his mother has to sign the papers so Daniel can fight with the big boys, but the actor that played Daniel is older than the actor that played Johnny.
I grew up when the originals were being made and loved them and played with the toys and watched the show and everything. So it's good for me to see a new generation also falling in love with The Karate Kid. The message of it still resonates apparently.
@@Rrr_558 Yep. In the 80's there was a "Dojo" playset that was REALLY cool. It had spring loaded doors with tracks where ninjas would pop out of and stuff like that. I had it and it was a great playset. They made figures too and I had those as well.
The first two deleted scenes certainly give us more of Johnnie's character. For the sake of the film, I can see why they weren't in the final cut, as they show Daniel fighting back more and trying to reason with Johnnie, but in order for the film to work, we need to see Daniel as the beaten down underdog. Also Zabka's performance is not up to par. In context to Cobra Kai, however, this is invaluable and I like how they used the lunch room clip in the recent season 4.
@@Lucas-bv1ps Agreed, Why he did try and fight back in part 3 against Mike Barnes, his skills were nerfed so badly between the 2nd and 3rd film. He should have at least been able to get some hits in other than the one at the very end of the film.
I can see why some of these scenes were cut. The first one makes Johnny 10x more psycho sounding, than his normal anger at the heat of the moment. And Daniel's extended screaming about his leg at the end (even though that may be more reality of what would happen) makes his character look way less strong than what he was built up to be.
Yeah, totally agree with this. It’s much better to see Johnny as a cool guy, but who can suddenly switch to being cold and mean - a guy you could actually imagine people being friends with, but they’re always a little scared of him. Better this than have him as a merciless psycho who derives joy from inflicting pain, rather than a guy using violence to try and maintain some sort of control on his out of control life. I’m glad they took this scene out. It’s too overdone and makes Johnny look weak.
I think it wasnt left because its not a good angle. There is a similar scene for Miguel in Cobra Kai and it was WAY better executed. In this deleted scene you can barely hear Daniel. The scene goes for too long, and you cant even see his face.
Daniel's feminine screaming should be no problem. Cutting off the sound and overdubbing it with less intense and more manly-sounding moaning, would fix it.
daniel was an italian american kid from friggen Newark that grew up in the 70's/80's. Those kids were tough, street smart and didn't take shit from anyone. It gets him in trouble in the film, but that's the way he was brought up. Glad he was able to kick some ass in the tournament.
I always love how he was tough and ready despite being weaker and unskilled (at least early on). Yeah he lost but every time he took them on and that always stuck with me.
Realistically, he wouldn't have made it far in the tournament. Those other kids were far more experienced, and Vidal, Bobby and Johnny were ex-champions.
I agree with you. It bothers me to no end how people spun the story to make Daniel the antagonistic one. And I'm reading this thinking to myself, "Have they never met anyone from New Jersey???"
I love that they used the deleted scenes in season 4. Wish there was a joke about that Johnny: The hell you talking about LaRusso I don’t remember any of that… 😂
I agree and clearly the more Daniel would stand up to him yet be respectful too, the more Johnny would embrace it. Had they simply smoked the number together instead of Danny spraying the hose on him, they'd have made peace much sooner.
That last scene shows even more how confident bobby was in his skills and having some form of compassion regardless of being Cobra Kai. He even says he can beat Daniel before Kreese tells him just to injury Daniel and get kicked out , and I'm sure that deleted scene would have made it more obvious And on top of that he's the one who kind of defends Daniel Halloween night when the others want Johnny to keep going. He's not a saint but he's not a psycho or violent without cause
Fun to see these scenes. Shows you how critical an editor is to a film; has to be so selective in using scenes that define characters and their relationships while maintaining the pace of the film.
For real. I watched "Apocalypse Now Redux" which is Coppola's director's cut with an hour extra running time and it turns the movie into an excruciating endless bore compared to the theatrical cut.
Its a great scene, because you can see that Johny is starting to doubt himself and gets angry because he does not want to admit it. And the locker kick is pretty hard to execute, they should have kept it.
I got to admit that couple of deleted scenes were so funny and messed up at the same time. Never thought I seen Johnny and Daniel talking to each other at school. Ali was trying stop Daniel but one of Johnny’s friends grabbed her and pushed her, kinda funny.
0:00-1:00 I really like that this deleted scene specifically was the “chemistry reading” between Daniel and Johnny’s actors and they actually made it into a real scene shot for the movie but it being deleted
It was also nice of Johnny to bring over his piece of blueberry pie as a gift for Daniel. You can't blame Johnny for being angry when Daniel disrespected him by sitting on the pie and smearing it on his shirt.
@@kaldemvor Yeah, that must've been why Johnny deliberately put the pie on Daniel's seat, laughed and mocked Daniel for ruining his only pair of pants and not apologizing to Daniel.
It's crazy how well Cobra Kai's fleshed out Johnny's character, he was such an archetypal 80s bully in this film. I suppose just like with real life, you never know what's happening behind closed curtains.
It's interesting to watch the series and then go back and watch the first movie. Things like Johnny's anger makes more sense when you know how his home life was with his stepdad being a jerk. It adds depth to the first movie for sure.
It's interesting how Johnny goes from flippant to furious the moment Daniel even suggests that Kreese might be a less than decent guy. Shows conflict in him, that he maybe already had the idea himself but didn't want to admit it.
Yeah, all of those people saying Daniel was the bully are clearly trolling or tripping. Cobra Kai is awesome and it has made Johnny a great character, but to say that he was the victim is going too far.
@@user-is7xs1mr9y Well Johnny didn’t have the best upbringing either, and actually neither did Daniel, but Johnny had a rich daddy, so he was spoiled, and spoiled people usually act narcissistic.
0:35 That expression, right as Johnny closes in on Daniel - sadness, fear, disgust, anger, hurt, and ... loneliness (?) - all mixed together. It is true that there are no bad students, only bad teachers.
Amazing how music and sound effects change scenes from intensely dramatic movie moments to muted kids barely noticeable and found at every local high school.
These scenes are great! Especially the first one... you can tell Johnny Lawrence if a very troubled kid and takes it out on Daniel. His erratic behaviour isn't normal.
I find it funny how Johnny, after the whole pranking Daniel into sitting on some food, once he gets food smeared on his shirt, he takes like 3 short, quick breaths like he is about to cry lol
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds Fits in with the retcon of his stepdad being a dick now that I think about it. Daniel doing that would've made him feel bad and disrespected like how his stepdad would dismiss him. It probably triggered him.
The first movie would've really benefitted from that first scene tbh. Its like the only time Daniel and Johnny have an actual conversation. Also the locker kick is just iconic.
@@DrOrr No. Unless Hawk messes with Johnny. Johnny used to use what Kreese taught him, which was no mercy as his way of dealing with things. Yeah, he was a bully, but he did what he thought was the thing to do. He didn't have anyone else to teach him. He even shows a little regret. Just pay attention to how he tells Daniel. "Well maybe it's because I want to." Before all that, he didn't care about Daniel. Even with this, Daniel was worse. Typically, it would be Johnny in most cases who was the bully, but there are times in the movie where Daniel would harass Johnny for no reason. And Daniel wasn't taught that it was ok. He knew what he was doing.
@@AlexFeri9348 didn't Johnny push him off the hill shortly after seeing Daniel in his dojo. I was always under the impression that he regularly bullied Daniel.
With some movies there are probably at least a couple of hundred hours of video, this is why i respect editing, as there is so much involved to make a 2 hour movie, and some of these You Tubers that film alone, and edit alone.
I love how no one in the hallway reacted to Johnny's angry locker kick.
Likely see no evil hear and speak no evil
That just means it's Tuesday.
Fuck boy kick🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They all are just like that’s just Johnny being crazy Johnny
Yeah, Johnny just wants to be cool!🤣 He's not lol!
"There's no such thing as a bad student, only a bad teacher" - Mr. Miyagi
He’s goddamn right after seeing Bobby and kreese
@@tvalokibatman6563 fax
@@tvalokibatman6563 Bobby? He was a karate teacher too?
if that is actually true, then Daniel was a bad teacher and Kreese was a bad teacher. Robbie turned opposite of Daniel's teachings and Hawk turned opposite of Kreese's teachings.
Ha so all my school teachers are bad letsgo
I love that locker kick, it's so extra for absolutely no reason 😂😂😂
Thankfully Johnny has turned his life around! He’s actually funnier in cobra Kai than in karate kid
Yh that shi was funny lol
And the heavy breathing afterwards 💀😂 Johnny had some real anger issues 🤣
Lol, I would have broken my legs trying to do that.
LMAO
I like how Johnny is so emotional on every interaction with Daniel, it's like he is about to burst out both in anger and in tears. It is consistent with Johnny's story, the issues with his father/stepfather, the situation at home, etc.
Johnny sees himself in Daniel
His stepfather turned him into a bully. That’s why Johnny now lives in a shithole.
@@efraeimberena2532 I think that's pretty hot, ngl.
@@damienleigh9943 1. Ew.
2. That's a teenager in this movie.
3. That's a horrible take.
@@Axxidous
1. It is satire.
2. It is satire.
3. It is satire.
I just realized how classy Johnny used to dress and how poor Daniel was. Years later they both went the other way around. Haha!!
Jersey/Cali thing
With Ed Asner dead, it's possible that his character, Sid Weinberg, will die too and Johnny might inherit his riches.
Johnny had daddy money as a kid.
@@nequito718 that’s right and Johnny didn’t even like him for a father. He was depressed at the same time so he took it out on Daniel instead.
I don't like the direction they went with Cobra Kai. I would expect Daniel to be more of a master like Miyagi 35 years later. No fear and no anger.
Even though it’s corny I can still feel the soul of this movie. Something a lot of modern movies lack
facts i always thought these movies were mad fuckin corny
Man do you have a point. It's the same feel with the first 2 Ghostbusters movies.
The soul they lack is that they're structurally missing a theme, an "armature" (like a sculture has. With no armature, a sculpture has no real structure to it.) A base, a foundation. When done right, a movie resonates in a way that reaches us on a universal level. That's where the "soul" of a film comes from. It doesn't matter if it's corny or "dated"...That is why no matter how corny or dated Star Wars, Rocky, or Karate Kid are, they still work. And are still producing sequels, spinoffs, and whatnot. What you said is accurate and why nothing made today that comes from today's time will matter 30 years from now. Stuff today has no theme, no armature/base, no soul. (Just like our society. And art reflects the society it comes from.)
Cobra Kai ended up doing well while the Star Wars trilogy got fucked up
@@David-hi8og hehehehahaha
Bobby is so underrated, he really was the first one to go against what Kreese was teaching them. He even apologized to Daniel after he broke his leg.
He seemed like he was cool when he's not in front of his friends! Other than that they all were jerks to Daniel!
I remember that scene from the book, but in the book, he casually dropped his belt at Kreese feet and slowly walks out.
@@Mrbradboy1Daniel deserved it! He didn't know how to mind his own business
@@jedsteelwell2354 You don't beat someone's ass over that! Now if he would've put his hands on Johnny or made derogatory terms first then yeh u would!
Sweep the leg. But Sensei, ill be disqualified. I said sweep it!
Weird how they deleted the only actual conversation Daniel and Johnny had.
It’s so relevant too with Cobra Kai now.
“Don’t you think your teachers wrong”
Johnny eventually realized Kreese was wrong and promised to be different from him whereas Daniel just viewed them both to be the same type of teacher
@@03chapin31 In the beginning of Karate Kid 2(1986). He told his teacher/Sensai that he was sick after he broke his runner up trophy. That's when he actually realized his Sensai evil side.
True
that’s def true they never rlly actually had a real conversation despite being rivals. they should’ve kept these in it would’ve made it better imo
Not only that but the times when Johnny actually acted like an agressive bully.
These scenes can be used as Flashbacks in Cobra Kai, and Johnny will say "Huh, I don't remember that!"
I hear ya but he briefly talks about it in season 2 when he, Carmen, Daniel and Amanda are having dinner
Very good i like it
@Dan Castro yeah something about the blueberry pie incident I believe. I think Johnny was referring to the scene where (what I believe)Johnny placing a blueberry pie as soon as Daniel is about to sit.
They included the pie scene in the 4th season
The second one is used in season 4
I’m so mad they cut the scene of Bobby throwing his belt down at Kreese, that was a quality scene
Makes sense why he became a priest
@@tannerplummer1996 "pastor!" bobby would say right now 🤣
@@TheAmericanPsychoHimself and as Johnny would say, “So your wang can still get tang. Nice!” 🤣
Now it makes sense why we didn't see Bobby in the beginning of Karate Kid 2
@@deepnthought. he actually was at the beginning. He just didn’t say anything
I can’t explain why, but I always burst out laughing when Johnny kicks the locker. It’s just too funny
A guy in my high school punched his locker from time to time.
The kick came off as awkward and made Johnny look weak and emotional
Johnny just being Johnny lmao.
glisteninglagoon1947 just like in cobra kai when he punches the waves and kicks the mailbox. So extra but freakin funny as hell😂
Cause he pathetic
I like how Daniel tries to just have a civil conversation with Johnny then even tries reasoning with him. Shows his maturity
This actually goes against Daniel’s nature. He is usually the hot head.
@@haarisabbasi Not really. It's also in Daniel's nature to try and handle things non physically
Johnny was a comedy king, even in 1984 😂 I'm so thankful we got Cobra Kai for him to really shine lol.
He is solidly hilarious! And can bring in real drama. A fabulous actor, reflecting
William Zabka as a really cool guy.
Did ya see William Zabka in a brief cameo in European Vacation?
@@castrodan4983 Holy shit! I didn't realise it was the same guy!
QUIET!
Idk man. I thought he was really cheesy & cringe when he was young imo. He's much, much funnier & entertaining now as a middle aged man. That's okay though because all great people & actors like Billy Zabka, Ed O'Neil (aka Al Bundy) & Charlie Murphy absolutely suck when they're young, but kick major ass & are phenomenal in middle age.
I’m honestly impressed he was able to do that kick so easily in those pants.
Chuck Norris "Action Jeans".
Remember those?
Stretcher pants I guess
@DON'T CLICK THIS VIDEO reported
Kicking jeans...
When you're a teenager everything physical is easy.
I love how Johnny says "don't even think of it worm" so calmly at 1:35
yes ! so funny 😂
As Tommy said earlier in the movie, it was "Take a worm for a walk week."
He sounds like M. Bison. Not literally, but the way he says it
Don't even think of it worm.
Johnny said calmly.
I have to say Billy Zabka has vastly improved as an actor. He’s actually a really good actor now.
Well also he’s got a good script with character development now in cobra Kai. in karate kid he was pretty much told to be a generic bully and that’s what he was for the movie. And also just being older and having more life experience he’s automatically going to be a better actor
He was like 17-18 here so of course his acting skills are gonna grow.
@@H.K.5 thanks, Einstein
All 80s movies had terrible acting. Almost every OG actor in Cobra Kai apart from Daniel-san improved.
Although he was great as a fighter on karate kid. One of the best around actually
Seeing Kreese not even blink when Bobby threw away his belt shows that he never really cared all that much for him and just wanted to use him as a pawn in his game of chess.
3:04 that’s only because, he quits on the dojo, after Bobby regret of Daniel’s leg 🦵🏻 injury from Johnny Lawrence.
kreese never cared of anybody in his dojo, he only see his students as weapons thats all
@@guzmanfel do you think he’s gonna do same thing to Tory, kyler, Robby and other students?
@@tvalokibatman6563 He probably might, and I think Terry will do far worse to them if they lose.
@@tvalokibatman6563 he definitely will. I think the sad part is that If they win robby is gonna probably see the larussos move and he didn't know about the deal. He'll realize that kreese was using him and He'll go back to Daniel to apologize but Daniel and the others including louie, anoush, Amanda, Daniel's mom, Anthony, and sam are gonna turn him away. Then he'll realize that he's lost everything. All of them will realize it. It'll go like
Robby: Mr larusso, I didn't know about this
Daniel: get outta here robby
Robby: look im sorry that.
Daniel: Get out!!!
Louie: leave man, you've done enough
Anoush: just go man
Robby: ms. Larusso
*Amanda looks away and robby glares at sam, turns around and leaves*
The first scene truly shows how messed up emotionally Johnny was as a kid.he had no father figure in his life only a mean and cruel karate teacher who
Manipulated his students into his way of thinking
I'm kinda glad they took this scene out, it makes him look too messed up and kinda ruins the "maybe Daniel was the bad guy" twist.
@@seph13x xd aceptenlo fan boys de johnny, daniel no era malo solo se defendía
And that stepdad wasn't a role model either in Kobra Kai. RIP Ed Asner who played the role.
@@seph13x but hides the truth on who the real bully is. sounds like you're defending the dyed blonde thug.
@@seph13x you really thought daniel was a bad guy when the gang of thugs roamed the school? really?
0:43 The way Daniel is looking at Johnny literally the way I look at my crush 💀
You're a masochist?
*how romantic*
I love that first scene here and wish it stayed in . . . Daniel starts off almost friendly over their issues, focused on the paper. He makes a great point and Johnny agrees deep down, but can't handle it emotionally. It makes his turnaround at the end where he hands him the trophy all the more understandable.
Plus the looks he gives kreese when he tells him to sweep the leg.. wish they kept Daniel calling out kreeses behaviour in. Adds to Johnny's trauma, and how he was just manipulated into behaving the way he did
Ironically, you can tell from the chemistry here that a friendship was brewing. You can just sense it.
Espacially from the first scene
Thats just bullshit, don't come here saying just because of cobra kai man
@@Lucas-bv1ps fax
Ain’t no sensing. It’s cobra Kai. Before it people hate Johnny
Nah thats a load of shite
Bobby is the voice of reason throughout the Karate kid movie and deserves alot more credit than he got. Bobby wasn't as wild as the others, his karate was controlled and smooth. He might have beaten Daniel if Kreese had let him fight his own match.
If he had beaten Daniel would Kreese have still been pissed at him? And guess what, if he had beaten Daniel then Daniel still would have made it to the semifinals (top 4) and even that would have been enough respect to end the bullying problem. This is especially true for when he was facing Johnny. had he lost to Johnny he would have made 2nd place and beaten all of the cobras other than johnny (to boot a very close 2nd place winning 2 of the 5 rounds had the crane kick failed). So in any case the bullying problem was over.
Miyagi basically said that when he told Daniel that he did not need to keep fighting that he had nothing more to prove. He had already earned enough respect to solve the bully problem.
@@Zurround that's an excellent point. Clearly most of the cobras at this point were beaten and Daniel had proven himself to them. I think with Daniel it wasn't about winning the tournament but proving he wasn't going to run away from them no more
@@Zurround kresse wouldnt be mad he probly not care or be happy
Agreed. Always thought Bobby was the strongest member even over Johnny. Daniel was no match for him.
Bobby was also the runner-up in the previous tournament. I wonder if he represented a different dojo at the time, or if it was an all Cobra Kai finals.
honestly they are both very good actors, they always had a lot of talent since they were kids
The actor of Daniel was already 20, he just looked really younger
@@_electric_blades_ 22 at the time actually.
And Zabka 19
2:18 he actually sounded like he was in pain🥲
Even though Karate Kid is a legendary movie by itself, Cobra Kai has truly made this already awesome movie even better. That first scene plays so well with what we've learned about Johnny in Cobra Kai's four seasons. Johnny's angry reaction to Daniel's questions shows Johnny's realizing Daniel's correct analysis. Johnny just couldn't handle the truth. The seeds of doubt for his sensei were already planted in this scene.
YES. This. Spot on analysis!
And Daniels son is now a bully
Ikr I’ve been watching so much Kobra Kai it’s unhealthy😳😭💀
YES YES YES !
Fake fan
Johnny and Daniel had more chemistry than any of their love interests.
Edit: honestly you guys are taking my comment way too seriously, yes i’m very much aware daniel and johnny are both straight. You don’t have to have romantic chemistry, there are different types of chemistry. I am not shipping them, please stop having an aneurysm over my comment. Thanks.
They truly are platonic soul mates even as rivals 😂 This is just great casting.
I thought that too. After that first scene I started shipping them. 😍😍
The first scene has many tension 😩
Johnny definitely has a thing ❤ for Daniel ...wants some of that brown sugar.
@donut lover Why is it a 'big no'? Their relationship would be extremely boring if they had zero chemistry.
1:24 that laugh caught me off guard 😂😂😂
RIP Tommy that laugh was fucking gold 😂😂😂
Like woah hey who invited the Joker
"só deus sabe como tá a cabeça do paiaço"
That scene with the pie was funny. Johnny's reaction was priceless!
Agreed, and listen to tommy laugh in the background
So much of the first 3 Karate Kids were just trying to get papers signed. 🤣
Ho Lee Xit... You just blew my mind and destroyed 38 years of karate-bully philosophy by exposing the trilogy as a violent bureaucratic squabble.
That's how a kid becomes a man: putting his signature in contracts. 🤣🤣🤣
I subscribed to you years ago and every few months I'll see you around in a video like this lol
Lol
I doubt it , i mean, there was no tournament in 2. Unless you count trying to make Miyagi and Daniel sign their own wills.
That last part when Bobby threw his belt down, I'm a Martial Artist, that is the ULTIMATE insult any student can do to their Sensei, that is saying "What you taught me is SHIT"! that spoke volumes to me.
Could you blame Bobby though? It may be the ultimate insult, but Kreese didn't give a damn about the tournament.
Its almost a continuity error that Bobby is hanging out with Johnny and his buddies shortly before Kreese brutally abuses Johnny because he was not part of that "gang" anymore since he quit the dojo and you would think that he would never want to see Kreese again and being out in the parking lot that might happen.
@@Zurround I think he was just being supportive of Johnny.
@@62202ify In the official novel they ALL dropped their belts on the badly injured Kreese after he tried to beat up Miyagi.
@@Zurround They should've showed that in part 2. Yeah Krease got aggravated assualt, destruction of property, attempted murder, great resume builders.
I love how in that first scene Johnny is just pissed for no reason at all until Daniel tells him that his "teacher might be wrong"
Johnny has anger issues.
The scene of Bobby quitting would have been a nice tie-in to Johnny beginning to see the light, too.
Johnny was NOT happy about Kreeses dishonorable actions. I think if Johnny had beaten Daniel he would still have shown good sportsmanship congratulating Daniel for a close 2nd place and the bullying problem would have been over. I also think Johnny would have quit the dojo due to the very sad circumstances that led to his closest friend quitting and being so unhappy about Kreese's dishonorable actions.
I have a fantasy "alternate universe" ending where the crane kick fails in some way "maybe JOhnny blocks or dodges it or the referee declares it illegal as there was some controversy about the legality of that kick)
Johnny is about to be declared the winner by the referee and Johnny silences the man before he can declare him the winner and he tells the ref about ordering Bobby to cripple Daniel and ordering him to sweep the leg which could have caused permanent damage as the leg was already broken and Johnny asks to be disqualified and the ref agrees and gives Daniel the win.
And Kreese is so furious about that that he attacks Johnny immediately and not out in the parking lot and Miyagi is right there to restrain him then the security guards put him in handcuffs to await the police. Ally is so impressed with the honor and sportsmanship Johnny showed that she forgives him for all of his transgressions and runs up to him and plants a big kiss right on his lips then jumps into his arms and they end up getting married and having a family together.
I´m totally agree, but still Jhonny wouldn't have quit anyway because of the resentment he had with Daniel over Ali.
And now perhaps it's Kreese's turn to see the light, as "friend" Terry Silver betrays him
The funny part is, Johnny tells him that his mother has to sign the papers so Daniel can fight with the big boys, but the actor that played Daniel is older than the actor that played Johnny.
Daniel was even older than Terry Silver.
@@Frankybroadcast no fucking way!! For real? 😭
@@Isa-hb8bv
Ralph Macchio: 4 Nov 1961
Thomas Ian Griffith: 18 Mar 1962
William Zabka: 10 Oct 1965
Damn.
@@thisisaname3099 and even to this day, Daniel still looks the youngest out of all of them wtf lol.
@@Frankybroadcast No way!! I never knew that!
I grew up when the originals were being made and loved them and played with the toys and watched the show and everything. So it's good for me to see a new generation also falling in love with The Karate Kid. The message of it still resonates apparently.
saw it for the first time this summer, the charm is alive and well :)
They have karate kid toys?! Where do I sign, I need all of em 😂
@@Rrr_558 Yep. In the 80's there was a "Dojo" playset that was REALLY cool. It had spring loaded doors with tracks where ninjas would pop out of and stuff like that. I had it and it was a great playset. They made figures too and I had those as well.
1:44 I love how Dutch just throws Ali aside 😂😂
Whenever shit’s going down he just manhandles her 😭
Dutch always was a psycho
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@brandyDC 😂😂😭
They’re gonna rip his teeth out and take turns on his mouth.
The first two deleted scenes certainly give us more of Johnnie's character. For the sake of the film, I can see why they weren't in the final cut, as they show Daniel fighting back more and trying to reason with Johnnie, but in order for the film to work, we need to see Daniel as the beaten down underdog. Also Zabka's performance is not up to par. In context to Cobra Kai, however, this is invaluable and I like how they used the lunch room clip in the recent season 4.
"Also Zabka's performance is not up to par" what do you mean?
@@Guamparrapo83 It's a bit exaggerated and phony. Think Terry Silver. Just my thoughts.
Yeah I agree, his acting in these deleted scenes aren’t as good as his performance in the film.
@@EvilDick1995 or as good as in cobra kai
@@Pazuzu82 oh his acting in Cobra Kai is on a whole other level than in The Karate Kid.
Daniel LaRusso has guts... never backing down without a fight.
Don't watch part 3 then lol
@@Lucas-bv1ps Agreed, Why he did try and fight back in part 3 against Mike Barnes, his skills were nerfed so badly between the 2nd and 3rd film. He should have at least been able to get some hits in other than the one at the very end of the film.
@@barneys4236 Terry Silver and Mike installed fear in his mind
@@barneys4236 Daniel's skills in Part II weren't that nerfed, but the situation between him Chozen was a fight to the death.
You realise he is a fictitious character?
1:33 Props to Daniel for never taking it lying down.
After Daniel puts the food on Johnny's shirt, just before Johnny is about to unleash on him, Daniel strikes first and strikes hard. A true cobra kai!
I can see why some of these scenes were cut. The first one makes Johnny 10x more psycho sounding, than his normal anger at the heat of the moment. And Daniel's extended screaming about his leg at the end (even though that may be more reality of what would happen) makes his character look way less strong than what he was built up to be.
Yeah, totally agree with this.
It’s much better to see Johnny as a cool guy, but who can suddenly switch to being cold and mean - a guy you could actually imagine people being friends with, but they’re always a little scared of him.
Better this than have him as a merciless psycho who derives joy from inflicting pain, rather than a guy using violence to try and maintain some sort of control on his out of control life.
I’m glad they took this scene out. It’s too overdone and makes Johnny look weak.
Director for leg scene: he's supposed to be a fighter, not a soccer player!
I think it wasnt left because its not a good angle. There is a similar scene for Miguel in Cobra Kai and it was WAY better executed. In this deleted scene you can barely hear Daniel. The scene goes for too long, and you cant even see his face.
I think that first scene was cut because it's super gay. "Maybe because I like to" yeah just admit how obsessed you are with Daniel, Johnny.
Daniel's feminine screaming should be no problem. Cutting off the sound and overdubbing it with less intense and more manly-sounding moaning, would fix it.
daniel was an italian american kid from friggen Newark that grew up in the 70's/80's. Those kids were tough, street smart and didn't take shit from anyone. It gets him in trouble in the film, but that's the way he was brought up. Glad he was able to kick some ass in the tournament.
I always love how he was tough and ready despite being weaker and unskilled (at least early on). Yeah he lost but every time he took them on and that always stuck with me.
Why does this seem cringe
@@onsightiskanyesbestsong4150 bro what 😭😭
Realistically, he wouldn't have made it far in the tournament. Those other kids were far more experienced, and Vidal, Bobby and Johnny were ex-champions.
I agree with you. It bothers me to no end how people spun the story to make Daniel the antagonistic one. And I'm reading this thinking to myself, "Have they never met anyone from New Jersey???"
Can’t tell if the first scene was left out because of the homoerotic tension or zabkas acting 😂
Well Top Gun came out around the same time so…
Johnnys been a menace to society for 4 decades and I love him for it
Bobby throwing his belt away… that’s exactly what I hope Robby does at the end of season 4.
Easter egg
Possible Spoiler alert
@@Levan038 I’m just completely guessing, dude 🤣
@@BurningBushProductions I know I'm just kidding. But it would be a good reference
@@Levan038 True dat 🤙🏻
Johnny's voice is so high omg😂😭
Its not that high
I noticed, his voice got deeper in age and Macchio got higher in age
@@joeyv8197 omg yes macchio did get higher
Sounds like he has a Boston or New York accent.
Daniel's is even higher
0:41 watch ya mouth runt 🤣🤣🤣
Tommy's laugh kills me 😂
I love that they used the deleted scenes in season 4. Wish there was a joke about that
Johnny: The hell you talking about LaRusso I don’t remember any of that… 😂
Im pretty sure bobby mentions being the first leaving the Dojo in the reunion. But its only mentioned, no flashback.
And Daniel and Johnny both mentioned blueberry pie on shirt happen during double date
Daniel: The hell you don't.
@@CJM94 me to my childhood bullies and abusive parents
I read it just in Johnny's voice too! Hilarious
I love how Daniel never backed down from Johnny even though Johnny could eat the kid for lunch. Danny boy always had a set of balls on him.
1:32 true
1:36
That's why he is The Karate Kid
Too bad he couldn’t do the same to Mike Barnes
Too bad they lacked testosterone
The movie needs a special edition with these scenes put back in. Especially since the pie in the chair is officially canon now.
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I feel Johnny really wasn’t a bad person at all. His energy seems like he can be redeemed by one good conversation.
I agree and clearly the more Daniel would stand up to him yet be respectful too, the more Johnny would embrace it. Had they simply smoked the number together instead of Danny spraying the hose on him, they'd have made peace much sooner.
Love these deleted scenes! And I don’t get why some people think Daniel was the “real bully”, when Johnny was clearly the aggressor in these scenes.
It bothers me alot
@@riteshjadhav1382 It is quite bothersome that a certain video has made so many believe that Daniel was the “real” bully, isn’t it?
@@sirclassicalhou3650 Yeah, it's kinda stupid. Daniel, in reality, was just sticking up for himself.
So Johnny putting a pie on his seat and Daniel retaliating is Daniel being the bully? Yeah sure buddy.
I think that's partly why they cut some of these scenes,Johnny is WAY too much of a jerk in these
R.I.P Pat Morita and Rob Garrison.
Such a classic. Glad I got to see the deleted scenes.
Thanks to whoever cut those scenes from the movie!
2:58 Now I understand why Bobby was not seen again during the final fight
And he’s back in the beginning scene of part 2
@@johnsantiago4810 yeah? I no remember
However, I believe he was in the parking lot after the tournament when Kreese was attacking Johnny.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
@@markbrowning4334 yes he was
Guy was the best one in Final Fight.
And now Johnny is teaching Daniel's daughter how to jump across buildings lol. They've come a long way!
@@themilraen I am having a Top-Dog/Underdog vibe.
0:55 Lmao. I love that he kicks the door for no reason.
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That last scene shows even more how confident bobby was in his skills and having some form of compassion regardless of being Cobra Kai. He even says he can beat Daniel before Kreese tells him just to injury Daniel and get kicked out , and I'm sure that deleted scene would have made it more obvious
And on top of that he's the one who kind of defends Daniel Halloween night when the others want Johnny to keep going. He's not a saint but he's not a psycho or violent without cause
@DON'T CLICK THIS VIDEO shut up
Bobby was the only nice guy in the old Cobra Kai "gang". Johnny, Dutch and Tommy were jerks.
@@eduardobsn83 Agreed. Jimmy the other Cobra Kai was quiet
@@eduardobsn83 Bobby was a jerk too he just the least jerk out of them all.
Yeah.he seemed to operate on a more compassionate level
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that everyone is applauding whilst they're carrying Daniel off screaming in pain 😭
True 😭✋
Probably why it was deleted. :-)
they do that stuff at sporting events all the time when a injured player is carried off
It's to make the injuried feel better and also applaud them for their good work.
@@Monchi2006 no, they applaud when the injured player walks off himself, or gives some sign he's ok
80's the best years ever!
Cheers from Italy
Tommy’s laugh was so funny.
Fun to see these scenes. Shows you how critical an editor is to a film; has to be so selective in using scenes that define characters and their relationships while maintaining the pace of the film.
For real. I watched "Apocalypse Now Redux" which is Coppola's director's cut with an hour extra running time and it turns the movie into an excruciating endless bore compared to the theatrical cut.
I like how some people see the Good Guy as the Evil Guy & the Evil Guy as the Good Guy.
Its a great scene, because you can see that Johny is starting to doubt himself and gets angry because he does not want to admit it. And the locker kick is pretty hard to execute, they should have kept it.
Yea but it changes the tone from high school bully, to total psychopath. It's too much and I can see why they took it out. Great kick though!
@@Biscuits645 agreed. Wondrous kick. All good deletions.
All the deletions were good for one reason or another.
I don't remember these being on the DVD-set thanks for posting.
I got to admit that couple of deleted scenes were so funny and messed up at the same time. Never thought I seen Johnny and Daniel talking to each other at school. Ali was trying stop Daniel but one of Johnny’s friends grabbed her and pushed her, kinda funny.
Who's here after seeing the flashbacks in season 4 and being confused because you didn't remember them from the original movies?😂
Yep they showed the scene where Daniel smears the plate on Johnnys shirt. That wasn’t shown in the original movie.
Very clever to use deleted scenes and I'd never seen them before until now.
Meeeeeeeeeeee LOO
@@SatelliteDownTX where do they show it?? I guess I missed it
@@angelaz6287 same
1:38 bro looked like he was on the verge of tears 😭☠️
Look at 0:33 this man was about to cry lmao 💀!
@@nathansaintus9927 When he gets a bit mad, he looks like he’s gonna cry ☠️
0:00-1:00 I really like that this deleted scene specifically was the “chemistry reading” between Daniel and Johnny’s actors and they actually made it into a real scene shot for the movie but it being deleted
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing
0:53 How nice of him to shut someone's locker. Really, they could have gotten their stuff stolen if he didn't close it.
It was also nice of Johnny to bring over his piece of blueberry pie as a gift for Daniel. You can't blame Johnny for being angry when Daniel disrespected him by sitting on the pie and smearing it on his shirt.
@@kaldemvor Wow *what* a nice “gift” from Johnny.
@@kaldemvor Yeah, that must've been why Johnny deliberately put the pie on Daniel's seat, laughed and mocked Daniel for ruining his only pair of pants and not apologizing to Daniel.
Johnny was a drama queen 🤣
Yes, he is.
Do you think he is right now?
@@tvalokibatman6563 yes, of course.
Not really, Billy was just an inexperienced actor then and kind of exaggerated a bit on camera.
@@tvalokibatman6563 in Cobra Kai yes He's a good guy, but not in kk.
Don't even think of it Worm
1:39 I love Johnny’s face expression when he’s mad 😂
Looks like he’s gonna cry.
Looks like he smelled a fart.
It's crazy how well Cobra Kai's fleshed out Johnny's character, he was such an archetypal 80s bully in this film. I suppose just like with real life, you never know what's happening behind closed curtains.
It's interesting to watch the series and then go back and watch the first movie. Things like Johnny's anger makes more sense when you know how his home life was with his stepdad being a jerk. It adds depth to the first movie for sure.
It's interesting how Johnny goes from flippant to furious the moment Daniel even suggests that Kreese might be a less than decent guy. Shows conflict in him, that he maybe already had the idea himself but didn't want to admit it.
Kreese turned bad the moment he heard his girlfriend died from Captain Turner. Betsy was the only person who saw the humble side of Kreese
man i just love ralph’s/daniel’s voice
Primera vez que veo estás imágenes, siempre es bueno,ver algo nuevo de las viejas escenas.
Daniel wasn’t a bully, he just stood up for himself
Yeah, all of those people saying Daniel was the bully are clearly trolling or tripping. Cobra Kai is awesome and it has made Johnny a great character, but to say that he was the victim is going too far.
I know and that just ticks me off
He was a sneaky real bully lol
Nobody who has actually seen the films believes that Daniel was a bully.
@@user-is7xs1mr9y Well Johnny didn’t have the best upbringing either, and actually neither did Daniel, but Johnny had a rich daddy, so he was spoiled, and spoiled people usually act narcissistic.
0:35 That expression, right as Johnny closes in on Daniel - sadness, fear, disgust, anger, hurt, and ... loneliness (?) - all mixed together. It is true that there are no bad students, only bad teachers.
Amazing how music and sound effects change scenes from intensely dramatic movie moments to muted kids barely noticeable and found at every local high school.
These scenes are great! Especially the first one... you can tell Johnny Lawrence if a very troubled kid and takes it out on Daniel. His erratic behaviour isn't normal.
I find it funny how Johnny, after the whole pranking Daniel into sitting on some food, once he gets food smeared on his shirt, he takes like 3 short, quick breaths like he is about to cry lol
LMAOO
Johnny's step father was a bully too. That's likely why he was one besides Kreese telling Johnny and his buddies what to do
@@castrodan4983 Why was Johnny about to cry over some blueberry pie when he could just go and clean himself?.
The way he slowly reacts, seconds after Daniel *very slowly* smeared the pie on him. Perfect comedic timing
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds Fits in with the retcon of his stepdad being a dick now that I think about it. Daniel doing that would've made him feel bad and disrespected like how his stepdad would dismiss him. It probably triggered him.
Finally they release these scenes after all these years
Since when did they release this?
@@tvalokibatman6563 in the new Blu Ray anniversary pack coming in two weeks
@@TNHFPRODUCTIONS987 I am so going to get it
Anyone else read the novel released back in the 80's with the still shots of these scenes?
@@BPD1586 I did. Good book and better than the film. Now that we finally see these deleted scenes this makes the movie even better.
The scene where Bobby takes off his black belt and threw it down in disgust was awesome. Bobby had principles.
I lol'd at the acting of Zabka in the beginning of the clip 😁😁
0:10 "so you can be in the tournament with the big boys"😂😂
This is a hidden gem, thank you so much for uploading it ♡
Yo 😳😳
1:37
@@saulgoodman1827 Yoooo 😳
The locker kick was unnecessary
That cafeteria scene is by far the funniest and it's odd no one really mentions it. That scene carries this video.
Imagine an uncut version being released on DVD/Blu-ray/4K.
That would be a Christmas Gift 🎁 on a whole over level ! These deleted scenes are gems
Soon!
Daniel: **being carried away crying with a broken leg**
Crowd: 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
They were clapping because he was taking it like a man
they do that to show respect
My wife never played sports kid and asked me why they do that when a kid gets hurt. I told her it’s to show support for the kid.
That first scene is really familiar. I wonder if it was on any VHS or TV releases.
The first movie would've really benefitted from that first scene tbh. Its like the only time Daniel and Johnny have an actual conversation. Also the locker kick is just iconic.
Good discussions on deleted scenes. Yes, its corny and almost bad, but also great and has soul at the same time. Love this movie ! Part of history
The Bobby scene should have been shown in the original 100%
All was in the original movie at theaters. It was removed afterwards for some reason.
@@haolejohn probably TV broadcasting space.
Hawk would remind you a lot of Johnny in this scene. Can’t imagine Johnny from back then being so friendly with Miguel?
Cobra Kai: days of future past
Johnny would bully Hawk
@@DrOrr No. Unless Hawk messes with Johnny. Johnny used to use what Kreese taught him, which was no mercy as his way of dealing with things. Yeah, he was a bully, but he did what he thought was the thing to do. He didn't have anyone else to teach him. He even shows a little regret. Just pay attention to how he tells Daniel. "Well maybe it's because I want to." Before all that, he didn't care about Daniel. Even with this, Daniel was worse. Typically, it would be Johnny in most cases who was the bully, but there are times in the movie where Daniel would harass Johnny for no reason. And Daniel wasn't taught that it was ok. He knew what he was doing.
@@AlexFeri9348 didn't Johnny push him off the hill shortly after seeing Daniel in his dojo. I was always under the impression that he regularly bullied Daniel.
@@somewheel6715 😂😂
With some movies there are probably at least a couple of hundred hours of video, this is why i respect editing, as there is so much involved to make a 2 hour movie, and some of these You Tubers that film alone, and edit alone.
Classic movie. Still obsessed!