Regarding Chomsky: I love the guy. He and I are fellow alumni of the same school in Philly, after all. Chomsky resorts to logic in his attempt to speak meaningfully about all things human, even when he should, by now, realize that human behavior is not logical. What Chomsky should have been doing, all these years, in addition to the broad work he has already accomplished, is to suggest ways to help guide illogical beings toward a more logical and sustainable path, for the good of future humankind. The reason why Chomsky does not do this is because nobody, yet, has found any way to control illogical and unpredictable beings, for their own good, without using coercive means. Anyway, I love listening to Chomsky. I have been listening for several decades, so far. Let's hope this guy lives to see 103.
I’d argue Chomsky would not agree on the moral basis of even attempting to devise a system that would allow control of “the illogical masses”. I certainly don’t agree with this notion.
Just a question: If one were to have some Magic Wand by which we could could wipe out inequality from the world, and replace all political systems with perfect democracies, everywhere, how long might it require for humankind to rapidly return the world to the state in which we now find it? Start with any utopia one can think of. Then, just ask oneself, how long would it require for humankind to distort such utopia into a world that is not much different than the world we see today?
@@fabiengerard8142 We should not speak in terms of "the sooner the better". There is nothing better. And there is nothing worse. Please read Darwin. We should think in terms of evolutionary advantage, rather than some arbitrary sense of right and wrong, and good and evil.
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Is organized human civilization, as we now know it, something worth saving? Chomsky rarely speaks to this question. Also, knowing what we know about human nature, isn't the destiny of humankind, absolutely, self-destruction. It would be difficult to argue that this is not true.
He has dedicated his life answering this question and the obvious answer is that IT IS WORTH SAVING. About the self destruction thing- he keeps repeating-I’m paraphrasing-“We Will Soon Prove Whether Intelligence Is A Lethal Mutation Or Not. The Jury Is Still Out: It’s Up To Us”.
@@37Dionysos Possibly the answer and question is: Is it possible to change "human nature" on a broad enough scale so that the wellbeing of the group is more important than the greed of the individual. So far, I see almost zero evidence that this is remotely possible. Human behavior has evolved in a way where enough is never enough. It matters not who you might be; Enough is never enough, and this is an evolutionary trait that will always lead to conflict and destruction of individuals and civilizations. Therefore, when NC says that "It's up to us", I believe that Chomsky knows full well that it is NOT up to us, in the sense that we are able to change this behavior through conscious choice, on the broad scale. Children are highly attuned to deciding who got the larger slice of the pie at any given birthday party. And, very few of us have ever said, "Now, I have enough. No more, please." It does no good to be in denial about this evolutionary trait in humans, and in most other animals, if not all animals. Do you not agree? If you believe that humans can easily modify this trait, then how, and, in fact, would anyone be willing to do so?
@@sor715 I agree. Let's not fall into the trap of thinking that capitalism is the cause of children always seeking a bigger piece of the pie, or just one more cookie, and then another, and another.
Outstanding, and most helpful. Thanks to all!
Great efforts
Regarding Chomsky: I love the guy. He and I are fellow alumni of the same school in Philly, after all. Chomsky resorts to logic in his attempt to speak meaningfully about all things human, even when he should, by now, realize that human behavior is not logical. What Chomsky should have been doing, all these years, in addition to the broad work he has already accomplished, is to suggest ways to help guide illogical beings toward a more logical and sustainable path, for the good of future humankind. The reason why Chomsky does not do this is because nobody, yet, has found any way to control illogical and unpredictable beings, for their own good, without using coercive means. Anyway, I love listening to Chomsky. I have been listening for several decades, so far. Let's hope this guy lives to see 103.
Homo ‘sapiens’ ?!?
Homo DEMENS !!!
He's merely a linguist.
I’d argue Chomsky would not agree on the moral basis of even attempting to devise a system that would allow control of “the illogical masses”. I certainly don’t agree with this notion.
Just a question: If one were to have some Magic Wand by which we could could wipe out inequality from the world, and replace all political systems with perfect democracies, everywhere, how long might it require for humankind to rapidly return the world to the state in which we now find it? Start with any utopia one can think of. Then, just ask oneself, how long would it require for humankind to distort such utopia into a world that is not much different than the world we see today?
So, the sooner that doomed species of ours will go extinct the better for the planet and all its other inhabitants ? Good riddance, so to speak…
@@fabiengerard8142 We should not speak in terms of "the sooner the better". There is nothing better. And there is nothing worse. Please read Darwin. We should think in terms of evolutionary advantage, rather than some arbitrary sense of right and wrong, and good and evil.
Through Respect and Honor PLEASE CHOOSE PEACE and STRIVE fully to BRING PEACE between Ukraine/Nato/USA and Russia, Please use your powerful influence to NEGOTIATE PEACE, diplomacy NEW PEACE TREATY NOW !!!!!!!!! for the SAKE of the SACRED, GRANDMOTHER GAIA and ALL HER SENTIENT BEINGS !!!!!!!!! Gratitude and Thank You, mysticthoughtforms7
Is organized human civilization, as we now know it, something worth saving? Chomsky rarely speaks to this question. Also, knowing what we know about human nature, isn't the destiny of humankind, absolutely, self-destruction. It would be difficult to argue that this is not true.
He has dedicated his life answering this question and the obvious answer is that IT IS WORTH SAVING.
About the self destruction thing- he keeps repeating-I’m paraphrasing-“We Will Soon Prove Whether Intelligence Is A Lethal Mutation Or Not. The Jury Is Still Out: It’s Up To Us”.
What exactly is "human nature"? There is no objectivity so there is no objective answer. As NC says, "It's up to us."
@@37Dionysos Possibly the answer and question is: Is it possible to change "human nature" on a broad enough scale so that the wellbeing of the group is more important than the greed of the individual. So far, I see almost zero evidence that this is remotely possible. Human behavior has evolved in a way where enough is never enough. It matters not who you might be; Enough is never enough, and this is an evolutionary trait that will always lead to conflict and destruction of individuals and civilizations. Therefore, when NC says that "It's up to us", I believe that Chomsky knows full well that it is NOT up to us, in the sense that we are able to change this behavior through conscious choice, on the broad scale. Children are highly attuned to deciding who got the larger slice of the pie at any given birthday party. And, very few of us have ever said, "Now, I have enough. No more, please." It does no good to be in denial about this evolutionary trait in humans, and in most other animals, if not all animals. Do you not agree? If you believe that humans can easily modify this trait, then how, and, in fact, would anyone be willing to do so?
@@YuChiGongG stop conflating 'human behaviour' with capitalism.
@@sor715 I agree. Let's not fall into the trap of thinking that capitalism is the cause of children always seeking a bigger piece of the pie, or just one more cookie, and then another, and another.
Chomsky sadly gone down hill