To be fair, most players playing against a Federer this aggressive and playing this well would have been lucky to get 2-3 games in the whole match. The fact that Djokovic got 8 is a testament to his defensive skills also.
“I think I did not play too bad. It’s just that he played everything he wanted to play. He played the perfect match… an amazing match.” (Djokovic, after the match)
djokovic is very gracious in defeat...unlike his fans haha. In truth, djokovic is the most graceful out of all three in defeat, and the most genuine when praising his opponents. then his fans go and ruin it by punching down on his opponents in victory, and making excuse after excuse in defeat. It makes it so tough to pay the proper respect to the greatest tennis player of all time.
@@bonzwah1 I totally agree as a Fed fan , Djokovic is so gracious in defeat, Federer also respects his opponents and gives them credit and never puts the blame on injuries. The Serb fans are awful and toxic and they seem very insecure , I think it' because at the end of the day the majority of the fans just like Roger the most despite Djokovic breaking his records
Theres no place for the sport tennis without roger Federer..no one can match his style,his magic,his charisma and his grace..whole tennis universe misses him and knew that he is and he will be remained as greatest of all time..though he left tennis but his legacy remains forever..
I'm a Federer mega fan, but we have to move on. I like Jannik Sinner. He has amazing athleticism and seems humble and good-natured. His rivalry vs. Alcaraz should keep us entertained for the next couple of decades
@@chrisbaldwin3148 I hope Sinner wins more slams than Alcaraz, Alcaraz has a bigger ego and his grunt is annoying. Sinner is very similar to Djokovic in many ways.
It's a pretty fast hardcourt. If you check Djokovic's record against Roger on the 3 fast hardcourt Masters - Dubai, Cincy, Shanghai - it wasn't very good. Too lazy to look it up but off the top of my head I think it was 2-1 in Dubai, 3-1 in Cincy and 2-0 in Shanghai in Roger's favor. A couple of those Cincy matches were also pretty aggressively brutal from Roger. Djokovic did much better against Roger on the slower hard courts - and since all the other hard courts were slowed to a crawl in 2008 or so...
@@KAH- Well, overall it's 20-18 on djoker's favour on hard courts.. I don't see this makes djoker any better then federer on hard courts.. And we all know federer led their head to head till he turned 35-36 years old.. If Roger was 6 years younger then djoker, it would have been 26-12 or something in Roger's favour for sure..
@@adriandang2913 How can u be so sure? Tennis Tv posted this match when Federer "destroyed" Novak. It's very about him. This is more like a personal attack on Novak...
Federer was already "old" in this match at age 33 playing a top player (Novak was no. 1) in his tennis prime at age 26. Never looked gassed or tired or out of breath or struggling from conditions or fitness.
@@DavidKjellssonin tennis 33 was old in the 2000's, the decade before guys like Federer, Lopez, Hàas and Karlovic in the 2010's. The other three weren't in the top 10. There are no 43 year olds in singles in the top 20.
@@MrEverything7T I've watched these highlights many times ever since it came out, this isn't sped up or anything. I think the balls were faster back then or something, so you might get fooled. ATP players keep saying that the balls are getting slower.
I think it's a function of the courts/conditions in Shanghai have always been really quick, hence suited Federer's game so well and hence his record over there is very very good.
Focused Federer is the most dangerous player ever, coz he just doesn’t miss. Nonetheless Djokovic saying ‘’that’s the way’’ at the end to him was so pure and sportsmanship.
I completely agree, this at the baseline hitting session side to side rally, gets boring after so long. The aggression of coming to the net and putting pressure on your opponent is so exciting to see.
Unfortunately, the faster the courts get, the more the big servers, who fight with their huge bodies, will begin to dominate. And creative players with versatility are pushed aside by their power. Not many players are as all-around aggressive as Roger.
It's the matches like this that convince me that prime Federer was better than prime Djokovic. When everything was clicking for Roger, his combination of power, precision, movement, and anticipating his opponent's next move was unbeatable. The difference between their careers is the longevity of Novak's prime extended well past Roger's because Novak's durability exceeds Roger's. There were times when Novak was absolutely dominant and unbeatable as well, don't get me wrong. I just think Roger playing at his highest level and potential would beat Novak at his highest level.
I see this comment a lot, but it just comes to down to favourable conditions. They are evenly-matched, so whoever the conditions favour is going to win.
Ceiling for ceiling, I don't think there's much doubt, predominantly because of style of play and serve. We saw this as late as 2019. But Djokovic has the highest floor of any player I've seen, and Federer - whilst clearly mentally tough - wasn't on his level mentally and it cost him some huge matches that he should have won (US Open 2011 and Wimbledon 2019 being the biggest). I don't think he loses that '19 Wimbledon final to any other player from 40-15 on his serve. In fact, I don't think that match goes 5 sets against any other player. He just choked multiple times. I do think that a younger Federer never develops the mental hang ups, though.
The best argument for this is french open 2011 and also us open 2011 djokovic never played better than that and still lost one and was match points down in the other . At his absolute best federer is the best
How about you watch Djoko Nadal Doha 2016 and say the same. Nadal even has something to say about the way Djoko started that year and played that match.
That guy was just insane, just look at this outrageous level with so much style... Nobody ever, will even touch a second that level of excellence and greatness.
That is why Federer is special, he is one of the few if not the only one who beat Djokovic multiple times without losing his service. To do that against the best returner ever is quite amazing.
Many big servers do well against Djokovic, he's not as great at returning power servers as Federer. It's against the norm that Djokovic's return game bothers the tour.
One of the many reasons we love Roger Federer !!! Attacking tennis of gods ! Elegance intact, calmness personified. To subdue Novak on hard courts is something else. But when Roger fires on all cylinders... ♥🔥❤🔥
This version of Roger is good and all but it isn't peak Fed. A 2005 or 2006 Fed against a peak 2011 or 2015 Djoker on hard court would be absolutely sublime to watch
Tennis, like all sports, is entertainment, and aggressive playstyles are very very entertaining. I don't know why people are always so shocked and offended that so many people like to cheer for a guy who executes points like this and prefer to root for him over other players regardless of all-time statistics. If numbers were really the only thing that mattered in sport, people would watch the scoreboard instead of the players. But they don't. Watching people dance around the playing field in magnificent ways and do extraordinary things right before your eyes is the entire point.
@@TheDude7753very simple. He was not arguing on who is the best of all time. He was explaining why Roger is one of the most beautiful players of all time. (I would also add that the highest level of play ever attained is another debate. If the greatest player of all time is the man that had the highest level in his game in history… Then Nadal on clay is probably the goat. And for the rest… Go to watch Federer in 2006, that all I will say. )
All I know is that even in an event where people are only competing against the clock instead of directly against their competitors, I will still have a much better time watching the race on the track than you will have staring at a spreadsheet of the results and ranking it. If Bolt is injured and not competing in a particular race and no one sets a world record that day, a track race will still be fun to watch as the competitors attempt to do feats that most humans cannot. That's sport. That's entertainment. People will still cheer even if no all-time lists on Wikipedia need to be updated. Do you think people who live in Boston should root for the Yankees because they have more championships than the Red Sox? Is Real Madrid the ONLY football club anyone in Europe should support? Liking someone, rooting for someone, cheering for their success and booing their rivals has never ever been about objectivity. And it won't be any time soon.
Take the ball early and deep before Novak gets into rhythm, and finish strongly at the net. Not just that but also go full speed in the form of high percentage well-placed first serves. One of the toughest asks in tennis and Federer managed to have one of those rare days where he could execute that plan from start to finish on that night. Unreal.
It is Federer who made me follow the ATP tour. I miss him more than I would have thought. I am not interested by this sport anymore ! Wavrinka would still be top competitive I might still see matches, but I hate two handed backhands, It is just too ugly and boring to me.
Interestingly, the Shanghai masters is the only tournament where Federer is undefeated against both Nadal and Djokovic. He beat Djokovic in 2010 and 2014 and he beat Nadal in 2017. More interesting is that he is 0-2 in Shanghai masters against Murray. What is even more interesting is that the Shanghai masters is the only big tournament where Nadal and Djokovic never played against each other.
I‘ve never been the biggest Fed fan, but it’s clearly to see who the way better tennis player is (in terms of talent and shot selection). Novak got the statistics on his hand, Roger the skills. Nevertheless, both are just admirable!!!
Well it was a fast court and in faster courts Roger's one strike tennis is perfect match..Nothing to do with skills.. On a slower court you will find Roger's skill lacking..All to do with conditions ..
@@Shinoj4852 On slow courts we got 2017 Federer who just decimated Nadal who was playing well that year. He'd also have multiple French Open if Nadal didn't exist on clay
Federer’s 2014 and 2015 were weird because he played at a super high level at times, like Shanghai 2014, Wimbledon both years, summer hard court swing 2015, but came up empty in the end. Same deal to a lesser extent in 2019. Stretches of kinda mediocre play, but then stretches of incredible play mixed in. Shanghai 2014 and Cincinnati 2015 were god mode
@SK-di5zu 2015 He ran into if not the greatest season in tennis the 2nd greatest season ever in Djokovic where he made final of 15 tournaments and won 11
He won a lot of the deuce and ad points in this match but did not in the 3 grand slam finals against ND in 2014 and 2015. Squandered like 18 break points in one USO final. Didn't handle the pressure well because he wasn't playing with as much confidence in the 5 setters because of his back. His back also kept flaring up at odd times restricting his explosive movement. It will be in his book if he ever writes one.
@@loganthewolverine2030Federer somehow couldn't carry on his momentum during the slams after 2012 like he did in his prime. He was also never truly as agressive in the slams in 2015 and 2014 like he was in Shanghai 2014 and Cincy 2015. But yeah, he was also more injury prone after 2010.
He was winning tournaments which had faster courts. Slams were all slow so Djokovic had the advantage there. If AO and USO remained fast like they used to be in early-mid 2000s Federer would've won a lot more. Slower courts hurt his game and favour Djokovic. Just a match up thing.
@@SuperNino111Roger in his 30s was dealing with Prime Djokovic, Nadal & Murray, and he still won 5 slams in 2010s decade amd made it to 11 slam finals, Meanwhile Djokovic is having a cakewalk beating hopeless nextgens like Ruud, Tsitsipas, Berretini, Medvedev, Kyrgios, etc in his 30s. With the kind of hopeless competition in the last 8 years except for Nadal at RG, Federer also would have racked up 10-12 slams easily, Djokovic is the ultimate weakest era champ & Federer will always be number 1.
@@capedcrusader101 Novak have bether chance to lost vs Alcaraz, medvedev, tsitsipas, zverev then vs Federer or Nadal, so point with no competision is bullshit, This is not ballet or figure scating or popularity contest. When Federer lead in all stats before 5,6 years then that records mater, now when Novak broke all records this is not valid, bullshit. Of corse one hand bechend is more atractive, then is tsitsipas goat? Federer is 3 place and its only true, Novak is real GOAT.
It's great to see him overcome his 2013 slump and evolve in this new way. He is not as consistent as he was in his prime, but still explosive when his tennis is perfectly into it. I was very surprised by his resurgence in 2014 and his crazy performance in 2015.
It's amazing to me how Federer seemed to play some of his best matches vs. Djokovic following a Grand Slam final defeat. This match followed their 5 set epic at the 2014 Wimbledon. Roger defeated Novak in Cincinnati the following year after their 2015 Wimbledon final, and then again at the ATP finals following the 2015 US Open. Roger also beat Novak in the ATP finals after the infamous 2019 Wimbledon. Federer probably would have another 6-8 slams to his name, if not for a primed Novak in the way every time. I miss watching these two go at it.
Aggressive prime Roger can beat anyone except Rafa on clay, I still remember the revenge he had against Novak for 2019 Wimbledon by beating Novak in World Tour final in 2019
I was watching highlights of sinner djoko shanghai 2024 and reminded me this match. MAybe when Federer finished, also went a big part of whole tennis with him.
Pele never won a Champions League, he still is the best soccer player ever. Rog didn’t won more GS than Djoko, he still is the best tennis player ever.
I thought 2017-2018 Wimbledon was the best Federer ever. He changed his racket to a bigger racket head which gave him more control and allowed more room for error in 2013. Even for the best player in the world that adjustment takes years. That’s why 2013-2016 were Roger’s worst years in production. He also knew that if he he didn’t make the change he wouldn’t have the longevity he so desperately wanted. The racket change is why he finished 6-1 (or 7-1) vs Rafa. With that being said unfortunately he Father Time was coming and he was coming fast. He caught up with Roger just a year later in 2019. But IMO pre 2017 this is the best match Roger Federer has ever played. Absolute perfection.
As a hardcore fed fan its hard to defend federer position as goat against novak. But out of all 3 nadal novak and roger in theyre primes, i would say roger has the highest peak because his game just takes everything out of your hands
Nick said Federer is the Jordan of tennis & I’d agree with it. MJ’s numbers have been beaten but he’s still the iconic name of basketball, Federer’s the same way
I wish more hard courts were as fast as this. It would truly test more of the top players to be more versatile and adaptable rather than just relying on pue baseline consistency and power. I have to say, the fact Djokovic got 8 games in this match is bloody impressive, not many players would get more than a couple when Federer plays like this. Shows how much of a defensive master he is. I love it when Rafa, Nole and Fed up their game's for each other, it just produces the best tennis we've even seen. God I miss when they were all playing at the same time.
This is not ballet or figure scating or popularity contest. When Federer lead in all stats before 5,6 years then that records mater, now when Novak broke all records this is not valid, bullshit. Of corse one hand bechend is more atractive, then is tsitsipas goat? Federer is 3 place and its only true, Novak is real GOAT.
Absolutely, what made you fall in love with a sport. What made you believe in magic. What made you leap out of chairs. There is only one answer to that in modern tennis.
@user-si4nt5gt9b lol that's absolute bullshit, 1st don't bring tsitsicheat name into this, he's trash. 2nd, I'll watch wawrinka or federer game ANY day over a novak game. I want entertainment for my time, and not saying Djoko is boring but Federer, Wawrinka are way more entertaining.
Nole can win all include till 30 Grand Slam if he want but never in his life can to be that superior level. Alcaraz show that too him. The level of Roger it's really other superior mode
There's lots of arguments of who is the best, who has the most slams, most titles, win rate, etc. Federer plays for winners, where it takes skill, set-up and execution, using different angles and approaches. He's constantly thinking about how to end the point sooner, in his favor. Some times it backfires and your winner instead becomes an unforced error. Nadal and Djokovic have a more defensive approach, where they minimise errors first, and then pounce when they see an opening or their opponent makes a mistake. IMO, Federer's style of play may not have the most consistency, but it certainly is the most difficult to master and definitely the most fun to watch
Roger's shots are so varied, spin, height, tempo, angle, FH/BH, at the net, position. Rivetting to see such variety moment to moment. How does his serve explode off the court though.. That part I don't get.
Cosa dire? Un grande match, giocato da un Federer strepitoso. Lo si vede anche dalla mimica facciale di Djokovich che era dura tener testa a tanta classe e a tale spinta agonistica. Con un Federer così, credo che nessun giocatore possa fare molto. Parliamo, infatti, non di un ottimo giocatore, ma del GOAT del tennis mondiale! Buonasera
Beautiful attacking tennis by Federer in this match, Djokovic did well to win a total of 8 games here and he really did have to dig quite deep in some of his service games in the 2nd set to hold on. Some of Federer's service games were done in under 1 minute, Nadull the slowpoke would need that much time between his 1st and 2nd serves lol
You can't switch it on and off. Rafa put it well when asked this: "I'm not winning because I'm being aggressive, I'm being aggressive because I've been winning." Ya need to be confident
Just goes to show how much better Federer was on fast courts. If we look at fast courts like Cincinnati, Dubai and Shanghai Federer has a healthy lead over Djokovic. Back in the 2000s when Grand Slams were fast Federer was dominating. US Open and Australian Open both slowed down significantly in late 2000s onwards and particularly early 2010s. Federer didn't become a lesser player in the 2010s it's just that he was getting out of his peak in his 30s while facing 2 younger GOATs who were in their peak in mid 20s at the same time courts slowed down significantly hurting his attacking game and benefiting the defensive/counter punching baseline defense of Djokovic and Nadal.
@@CostarreraGT_the_allknowing Lol, the point is that peak Djokovic is the highest level of tennis and you can’t disprove it otherwise as Djokovic attainted the highest ELO rating in tennis history. It’s why we have stats in tennis to prevent subjectivity.
This is the main reason why even before Novak and RAFA had more slams than Roger, when they were on, and he was on; my bet was always on Roger, when Roger was on in my opinion, he’s unbeatable, by anybody on tour playing their best, show me a match where that’s not true.
Whenever there's a crushing loss like this fr prime novak against grandpa fed, the novak fans cannot acknowledge that novak tried all he could but fed in this form on a fast court renders novak helpless.. Absolutely nothing he can do but shrug and clap... GOAT vs BOAT.
Does ur facts explain how badly outclassed djokovic was made to look here by an aged federer? How is novak the greatest of all time if he's getting whipped like this and he can't even begin to counter anything from fed?
@@drnirmalraj2456 Lmao, brotha, the h2h was 27-23 to Djokovic, cope? Djokovic beat Federer in 3 Wimbledon finals (Fed’s best surface) and smoked Fed in straight sets at the 2008 AO. Federer only ever beat a pre-prime Djokovic on his best surface at the AO in the 4th round lol. Never defeated Djokovic in any finals. It was only even on fast hardcourts but Djokovic was better everywhere else and the stats prove it so quit telling fibs.
When Roger wins a point against Djokovic, turns around and walks away. When Djokovic wins a point against Norrie, he's like Gladiator "are you not entertained"! Even with one handed backhand, doesn't have to moan on every shot.
To be fair, most players playing against a Federer this aggressive and playing this well would have been lucky to get 2-3 games in the whole match. The fact that Djokovic got 8 is a testament to his defensive skills also.
Testament to gis quality
Yep. Agreed. Nobody could break this non-mistake making Federer. Tennis was more art than sport when he was around.
That’s how great Novak is. That even Fed has to play so aggressively and perfectly and still only wins by two games.
What year was this ?
@@Alexx22570i think 2013
“I think I did not play too bad. It’s just that he played everything he wanted to play. He played the perfect match… an amazing match.” (Djokovic, after the match)
40-15
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djokovic is very gracious in defeat...unlike his fans haha. In truth, djokovic is the most graceful out of all three in defeat, and the most genuine when praising his opponents. then his fans go and ruin it by punching down on his opponents in victory, and making excuse after excuse in defeat. It makes it so tough to pay the proper respect to the greatest tennis player of all time.
You're absolutelly right Milord, they should take fun base anthropology in count for GOAT race @@bonzwah1
@@bonzwah1 I totally agree as a Fed fan , Djokovic is so gracious in defeat, Federer also respects his opponents and gives them credit and never puts the blame on injuries. The Serb fans are awful and toxic and they seem very insecure , I think it' because at the end of the day the majority of the fans just like Roger the most despite Djokovic breaking his records
holy, such aggression, I feel the pressure even from just watching, the constant net presence and fast pace ground strokes.
That's what you get when you have fast courts , watch Federer vs Davydenko rallies, mind-blowing stuff
Djokovic is the goat.
Theres no place for the sport tennis without roger Federer..no one can match his style,his magic,his charisma and his grace..whole tennis universe misses him and knew that he is and he will be remained as greatest of all time..though he left tennis but his legacy remains forever..
True
I'm a Federer mega fan, but we have to move on. I like Jannik Sinner. He has amazing athleticism and seems humble and good-natured. His rivalry vs. Alcaraz should keep us entertained for the next couple of decades
@@chrisbaldwin3148wake up bro they just staring their journey
@@chrisbaldwin3148Sinner is 💩. You can move on. Nothing attractive about Sinner's game. Alcaraz also not all there.
@@chrisbaldwin3148 I hope Sinner wins more slams than Alcaraz, Alcaraz has a bigger ego and his grunt is annoying. Sinner is very similar to Djokovic in many ways.
When Federer was in rhythm he was unstoppable. What a player! Absolutely outstanding tennis 🎾
No that was Djokovic.
Still remember this match like it was yesterday. To make Djokovic look like an amateur on hard court is beyond believable.
It's a pretty fast hardcourt. If you check Djokovic's record against Roger on the 3 fast hardcourt Masters - Dubai, Cincy, Shanghai - it wasn't very good. Too lazy to look it up but off the top of my head I think it was 2-1 in Dubai, 3-1 in Cincy and 2-0 in Shanghai in Roger's favor. A couple of those Cincy matches were also pretty aggressively brutal from Roger. Djokovic did much better against Roger on the slower hard courts - and since all the other hard courts were slowed to a crawl in 2008 or so...
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💯 and people say djoker is the best hard court player of all time.. Lol..
Djokovic - Federer head to head record on hard court is 27 - 23 for Djokovic (13-6 in finals)
@@hirenpatel3699well hardcourts includes everything. Fast, slow, indoor and outdoor. Combining all these, I’m sure Djokovic prevails.
@@KAH-
Well, overall it's 20-18 on djoker's favour on hard courts.. I don't see this makes djoker any better then federer on hard courts..
And we all know federer led their head to head till he turned 35-36 years old..
If Roger was 6 years younger then djoker, it would have been 26-12 or something in Roger's favour for sure..
Gotta love when he hits that rhythm and rattles off service games in less than a minute
Like Nick said, he can just make you feel and look bad. Like you’re playing the wrong sport. Novak’s body language tells of this tale here.
This is exactly what players are saying after they play against Djokovic 🤦♂️🤣
@@TheDude7753bro you're so salty lmao. Second time I see you talking trash to somebody complimenting Roger. Breathe it's gonna be alright.
@@jonas8993 I'm seeing your comments everywhere... Maybe bcs u don't care 😂
@@TheDude7753 not everything is about djokovic ;-;
@@adriandang2913 How can u be so sure? Tennis Tv posted this match when Federer "destroyed" Novak. It's very about him. This is more like a personal attack on Novak...
Federer was already "old" in this match at age 33 playing a top player (Novak was no. 1) in his tennis prime at age 26. Never looked gassed or tired or out of breath or struggling from conditions or fitness.
33 isnt old. 43 is old.
@@DavidKjellssonin tennis 33 was old in the 2000's, the decade before guys like Federer, Lopez, Hàas and Karlovic in the 2010's. The other three weren't in the top 10. There are no 43 year olds in singles in the top 20.
It's a straight sets BO3 win, so why would he have been struggling fitness-wise?
so?
@@mantaishere Age doesn't just affect a player after the 2nd set is over...
This Match is crazy, it seems like the whole video is 1,5x faster 😱
I think it's at 1.1 - 1.2x
@@MrEverything7T I've watched these highlights many times ever since it came out, this isn't sped up or anything.
I think the balls were faster back then or something, so you might get fooled. ATP players keep saying that the balls are getting slower.
This is what happens on a fast court
Early ball-striking, playing close to or on the baseline and court speed
I think it's a function of the courts/conditions in Shanghai have always been really quick, hence suited Federer's game so well and hence his record over there is very very good.
Focused Federer is the most dangerous player ever, coz he just doesn’t miss. Nonetheless Djokovic saying ‘’that’s the way’’ at the end to him was so pure and sportsmanship.
Wrong focused Djokovic is the most dangerous player ever.
FUN FACT: Federer is 5-0 against Nadal and Djokovic combined in China. Also 10-0 in sets!
Fast courts, baby! Imagine if he played them in the 90's.
@@loganthewolverine2030 Or on the old fast carpets around 2003/2004
i thought djokovic beat fed in 2019 shanghai final no?
@@DavidNguyen-sz3ft no
@@DavidNguyen-sz3ft Federer lost to Zverev in Shanghai 2019. Zverev lost to Medvedev in the final.
I wore a red polo and gray shorts when playing tennis for all of 2014/2015 because of Fed lol
We need more courts like Shanghai. Notoriously quick conditions which really encourage and reward attacking play
But Defence is more consistent.
I completely agree, this at the baseline hitting session side to side rally, gets boring after so long. The aggression of coming to the net and putting pressure on your opponent is so exciting to see.
Unfortunately, the faster the courts get, the more the big servers, who fight with their huge bodies, will begin to dominate.
And creative players with versatility are pushed aside by their power.
Not many players are as all-around aggressive as Roger.
It's the matches like this that convince me that prime Federer was better than prime Djokovic. When everything was clicking for Roger, his combination of power, precision, movement, and anticipating his opponent's next move was unbeatable. The difference between their careers is the longevity of Novak's prime extended well past Roger's because Novak's durability exceeds Roger's. There were times when Novak was absolutely dominant and unbeatable as well, don't get me wrong. I just think Roger playing at his highest level and potential would beat Novak at his highest level.
I see this comment a lot, but it just comes to down to favourable conditions. They are evenly-matched, so whoever the conditions favour is going to win.
Ceiling for ceiling, I don't think there's much doubt, predominantly because of style of play and serve. We saw this as late as 2019. But Djokovic has the highest floor of any player I've seen, and Federer - whilst clearly mentally tough - wasn't on his level mentally and it cost him some huge matches that he should have won (US Open 2011 and Wimbledon 2019 being the biggest). I don't think he loses that '19 Wimbledon final to any other player from 40-15 on his serve. In fact, I don't think that match goes 5 sets against any other player. He just choked multiple times.
I do think that a younger Federer never develops the mental hang ups, though.
The best argument for this is french open 2011 and also us open 2011 djokovic never played better than that and still lost one and was match points down in the other . At his absolute best federer is the best
These are all hypotheses. What happened matters
How about you watch Djoko Nadal Doha 2016 and say the same. Nadal even has something to say about the way Djoko started that year and played that match.
That guy was just insane, just look at this outrageous level with so much style... Nobody ever, will even touch a second that level of excellence and greatness.
How I miss that tennis. It is true all round skill. We have no anymore so complete all round player like Roger
Never there will be another player like this, simply extraordinary!!! Brutal Roger Federer, is perfect!!!
That is why Federer is special, he is one of the few if not the only one who beat Djokovic multiple times without losing his service. To do that against the best returner ever is quite amazing.
Yes daddy
@@Umair_Boodhoo30 ayo? 🤨📸
I think Djokovic has improved further in the returns dept since then, still this attacking style is great to watch
d1 glazing
Many big servers do well against Djokovic, he's not as great at returning power servers as Federer. It's against the norm that Djokovic's return game bothers the tour.
One of the many reasons we love Roger Federer !!! Attacking tennis of gods ! Elegance intact, calmness personified. To subdue Novak on hard courts is something else. But when Roger fires on all cylinders...
♥🔥❤🔥
This version of Roger vs Novak AO 2016 version would be an epic match!
This version of Roger is good and all but it isn't peak Fed. A 2005 or 2006 Fed against a peak 2011 or 2015 Djoker on hard court would be absolutely sublime to watch
Actually the 2016 Doha Final version of Djokovic would be better.
@@slamandjam2If I had to guess I would say Djokovic wins 6 times out of 10.
Tennis, like all sports, is entertainment, and aggressive playstyles are very very entertaining. I don't know why people are always so shocked and offended that so many people like to cheer for a guy who executes points like this and prefer to root for him over other players regardless of all-time statistics.
If numbers were really the only thing that mattered in sport, people would watch the scoreboard instead of the players. But they don't. Watching people dance around the playing field in magnificent ways and do extraordinary things right before your eyes is the entire point.
Very simple. Is Usain Bolt best in history because of his running style or because he broke most records and won the most medals? 🤷♂️
you like Roger over Novak. we got it. give it a rest lol
@@TheDude7753very simple. He was not arguing on who is the best of all time. He was explaining why Roger is one of the most beautiful players of all time.
(I would also add that the highest level of play ever attained is another debate. If the greatest player of all time is the man that had the highest level in his game in history… Then Nadal on clay is probably the goat. And for the rest… Go to watch Federer in 2006, that all I will say. )
All I know is that even in an event where people are only competing against the clock instead of directly against their competitors, I will still have a much better time watching the race on the track than you will have staring at a spreadsheet of the results and ranking it. If Bolt is injured and not competing in a particular race and no one sets a world record that day, a track race will still be fun to watch as the competitors attempt to do feats that most humans cannot. That's sport. That's entertainment. People will still cheer even if no all-time lists on Wikipedia need to be updated.
Do you think people who live in Boston should root for the Yankees because they have more championships than the Red Sox? Is Real Madrid the ONLY football club anyone in Europe should support?
Liking someone, rooting for someone, cheering for their success and booing their rivals has never ever been about objectivity. And it won't be any time soon.
@@Mr.0_Crocodile Bro, u have to go to the eye doctor immediately Lmao
Take the ball early and deep before Novak gets into rhythm, and finish strongly at the net. Not just that but also go full speed in the form of high percentage well-placed first serves. One of the toughest asks in tennis and Federer managed to have one of those rare days where he could execute that plan from start to finish on that night. Unreal.
Who else misses Roger on tour? 😢
It is Federer who made me follow the ATP tour.
I miss him more than I would have thought. I am not interested by this sport anymore !
Wavrinka would still be top competitive I might still see matches, but I hate two handed backhands,
It is just too ugly and boring to me.
Me too 😢😢
There is no greater beauty than watching Roger play, no other player is as graceful and majestic
Probably his best in 2014.
Interestingly, the Shanghai masters is the only tournament where Federer is undefeated against both Nadal and Djokovic. He beat Djokovic in 2010 and 2014 and he beat Nadal in 2017. More interesting is that he is 0-2 in Shanghai masters against Murray. What is even more interesting is that the Shanghai masters is the only big tournament where Nadal and Djokovic never played against each other.
I mean, it's a fast court and indoors, conditions that favor Federer in any matchup
@LunarEclipsism1 outdoor HC
@@colethomas903 fair enough, I thought it was indoors
@lunarEclispsism1 all good it happens a lot of people think that btw
That was actually interesting!✌️
Roger's volleys should be the standard to be followed at all tennis academies worldwide.
Roger is unbeatable when he produces this level of tennis 😎😎😎
fraud
No one is unbeatable, calm the meat riding.
Baseliners want rhythm, Federer ain't giving that on fast courts and conditions.
What style would you play?
I‘ve never been the biggest Fed fan, but it’s clearly to see who the way better tennis player is (in terms of talent and shot selection). Novak got the statistics on his hand, Roger the skills. Nevertheless, both are just admirable!!!
No one has been as gracious on the court and had just every shot in the book quite like Federer.
Well it was a fast court and in faster courts Roger's one strike tennis is perfect match..Nothing to do with skills.. On a slower court you will find Roger's skill lacking..All to do with conditions ..
@@Shinoj4852 On slow courts we got 2017 Federer who just decimated Nadal who was playing well that year. He'd also have multiple French Open if Nadal didn't exist on clay
@@Shinoj4852you’re delusional
Federer on at 100% is the best player in history
Federer’s 2014 and 2015 were weird because he played at a super high level at times, like Shanghai 2014, Wimbledon both years, summer hard court swing 2015, but came up empty in the end. Same deal to a lesser extent in 2019. Stretches of kinda mediocre play, but then stretches of incredible play mixed in. Shanghai 2014 and Cincinnati 2015 were god mode
@SK-di5zu 2015 He ran into if not the greatest season in tennis the 2nd greatest season ever in Djokovic where he made final of 15 tournaments and won 11
@@colethomas903yeah and Djokovic lost only 5 times that year, 3 to aging Federer.
He won a lot of the deuce and ad points in this match but did not in the 3 grand slam finals against ND in 2014 and 2015. Squandered like 18 break points in one USO final. Didn't handle the pressure well because he wasn't playing with as much confidence in the 5 setters because of his back. His back also kept flaring up at odd times restricting his explosive movement. It will be in his book if he ever writes one.
@@loganthewolverine2030Federer somehow couldn't carry on his momentum during the slams after 2012 like he did in his prime. He was also never truly as agressive in the slams in 2015 and 2014 like he was in Shanghai 2014 and Cincy 2015.
But yeah, he was also more injury prone after 2010.
He was winning tournaments which had faster courts. Slams were all slow so Djokovic had the advantage there. If AO and USO remained fast like they used to be in early-mid 2000s Federer would've won a lot more. Slower courts hurt his game and favour Djokovic. Just a match up thing.
Federer was unbeatable on a fast hard
RF the BEST,the goat
The best to ever do it🔥
Yea what a privilege for Roger to play against him
@@stefanz993 I was talking about Roger friend
@@jimmiehenson 24+ > 20
@@stefanz993 Roger was the one who has built up today Djokovic. He's nobody when Roger was already a legend, dude.
@@victordavalos6198 that’s crazy man also ratio
An Out of Prime Federer completely owning & schooling a Prime Djoker.
Roger on his good days was simply unbeatable even in his 30s. The True GOAT!!
Roger when turn 30 win only 4 slams, Novak win more then 10 and keep going, so what is point? Federer is 3 place and its only true.
@@SuperNino111Roger in his 30s was dealing with Prime Djokovic, Nadal & Murray, and he still won 5 slams in 2010s decade amd made it to 11 slam finals, Meanwhile Djokovic is having a cakewalk beating hopeless nextgens like Ruud, Tsitsipas, Berretini, Medvedev, Kyrgios, etc in his 30s. With the kind of hopeless competition in the last 8 years except for Nadal at RG, Federer also would have racked up 10-12 slams easily, Djokovic is the ultimate weakest era champ & Federer will always be number 1.
Well said. Young kids thesedays and betting folks usually forget the fire and consistency. All this even with slowing courts and a one hander. Phew !
@@capedcrusader101 and 2005-2014 rg nadal is better than 2015-2023 rg nadal
@@capedcrusader101 Novak have bether chance to lost vs Alcaraz, medvedev, tsitsipas, zverev then vs Federer or Nadal, so point with no competision is bullshit, This is not ballet or figure scating or popularity contest. When Federer lead in all stats before 5,6 years then that records mater, now when Novak broke all records this is not valid, bullshit. Of corse one hand bechend is more atractive, then is tsitsipas goat? Federer is 3 place and its only true, Novak is real GOAT.
Tennis needs more players that play this style of tennis and that has the skills to be a top contender.
And what style is that exactly?
من افضل مباريات روجر على الاطلاق شكرا على المتعة
تنس هجومي بإمتياز من فيدرر لدرجة عجز نوفاك عن فعل أي شئ ضد تسديدات فيدرر الهجومية السريعة
I miss this tennis
It's great to see him overcome his 2013 slump and evolve in this new way.
He is not as consistent as he was in his prime, but still explosive when his tennis is perfectly into it.
I was very surprised by his resurgence in 2014 and his crazy performance in 2015.
It's amazing to me how Federer seemed to play some of his best matches vs. Djokovic following a Grand Slam final defeat. This match followed their 5 set epic at the 2014 Wimbledon. Roger defeated Novak in Cincinnati the following year after their 2015 Wimbledon final, and then again at the ATP finals following the 2015 US Open. Roger also beat Novak in the ATP finals after the infamous 2019 Wimbledon. Federer probably would have another 6-8 slams to his name, if not for a primed Novak in the way every time. I miss watching these two go at it.
Watching the way he play like this, Roger may still be dominant force in 2010's had they not make the court slower. Simply amazing tennis.
Aggressive prime Roger can beat anyone except Rafa on clay, I still remember the revenge he had against Novak for 2019 Wimbledon by beating Novak in World Tour final in 2019
I was watching highlights of sinner djoko shanghai 2024 and reminded me this match. MAybe when Federer finished, also went a big part of whole tennis with him.
I think this match answers the who would win between prime Federer vs prime djokovic debate
el MEJOR de la historia!! FEDERER
A true tennis legend! I am yet to see someone w as pretty and effective backhand like Roger's. Did anyone ever see Roger use both hands?
Wow! Aggressive power tennis that also looks graceful. So many winners where novak didnt even take 1 step because he was totally beaten
Wow Federer peak. This is a peak attacking tennis
the crazy thing is that Djokovic was in amazing form. He almost double bageled Berdych a week prior in Beijing.
How I miss these matches!
THE GOD OF ATTACKING TENNIS
Federer in beast mode level
We were fortunate to have lived in the Federer Era.
Mental rigor. Physical rigor. Style and emotion.
Federer is clearly the best the world have seen
Pele never won a Champions League, he still is the best soccer player ever. Rog didn’t won more GS than Djoko, he still is the best tennis player ever.
The act of referring to football as "soccer" immediately renders your opinions about the sport invalid...
I didnt see him rush the net like this in his absolute best years
I thought 2017-2018 Wimbledon was the best Federer ever.
He changed his racket to a bigger racket head which gave him more control and allowed more room for error in 2013. Even for the best player in the world that adjustment takes years. That’s why 2013-2016 were Roger’s worst years in production. He also knew that if he he didn’t make the change he wouldn’t have the longevity he so desperately wanted. The racket change is why he finished 6-1 (or 7-1) vs Rafa. With that being said unfortunately he Father Time was coming and he was coming fast. He caught up with Roger just a year later in 2019.
But IMO pre 2017 this is the best match Roger Federer has ever played. Absolute perfection.
AMAZING 4 ACES
True legend, prince of tennis world.
the best of all times
Federer is the greatest! When he is at his peak, no one, not even Djoker can win. Fed’s talent is off the chart!!!!
Receive and volley, that's wild
As a hardcore fed fan its hard to defend federer position as goat against novak. But out of all 3 nadal novak and roger in theyre primes, i would say roger has the highest peak because his game just takes everything out of your hands
Nick said Federer is the Jordan of tennis & I’d agree with it. MJ’s numbers have been beaten but he’s still the iconic name of basketball, Federer’s the same way
@@sasook Eh
I wish more hard courts were as fast as this. It would truly test more of the top players to be more versatile and adaptable rather than just relying on pue baseline consistency and power. I have to say, the fact Djokovic got 8 games in this match is bloody impressive, not many players would get more than a couple when Federer plays like this. Shows how much of a defensive master he is. I love it when Rafa, Nole and Fed up their game's for each other, it just produces the best tennis we've even seen. God I miss when they were all playing at the same time.
This is why even if Novak 30 slams
Roger Federer will always be the GOAT
This is the beauty of our sport
Enjoy with friends and family 👍🙏☺️
🎉drsyedasame🎉
This is not ballet or figure scating or popularity contest. When Federer lead in all stats before 5,6 years then that records mater, now when Novak broke all records this is not valid, bullshit. Of corse one hand bechend is more atractive, then is tsitsipas goat? Federer is 3 place and its only true, Novak is real GOAT.
Absolutely, what made you fall in love with a sport. What made you believe in magic. What made you leap out of chairs. There is only one answer to that in modern tennis.
@user-si4nt5gt9b lol that's absolute bullshit, 1st don't bring tsitsicheat name into this, he's trash. 2nd, I'll watch wawrinka or federer game ANY day over a novak game. I want entertainment for my time, and not saying Djoko is boring but Federer, Wawrinka are way more entertaining.
Fear factor in here 💯 Federer is gonna be forgotten. Novak will soon be on 5+ Slams more than him. Same thing happened to Sampras 🤷♂️
And it was the manner of the performance..❤💥🐐
One of Best Match ever in history Federer vs Djokovic. That was in 2014 I believe.
You mean the Wimbledon final?
THE Greatest Of All Time 🫶🇮🇳👍👏😊😊
Nole can win all include till 30 Grand Slam if he want but never in his life can to be that superior level. Alcaraz show that too him.
The level of Roger it's really other superior mode
Please go watch Ao 2016 vs roger
Also doha final 2016
Ao 19 final
@@Bebomelad12695 yes i know but wasn't the Best Mode of Riger
Federer will ever be the Greatest of all time ❤
There's lots of arguments of who is the best, who has the most slams, most titles, win rate, etc. Federer plays for winners, where it takes skill, set-up and execution, using different angles and approaches. He's constantly thinking about how to end the point sooner, in his favor. Some times it backfires and your winner instead becomes an unforced error. Nadal and Djokovic have a more defensive approach, where they minimise errors first, and then pounce when they see an opening or their opponent makes a mistake. IMO, Federer's style of play may not have the most consistency, but it certainly is the most difficult to master and definitely the most fun to watch
@@DonLee1980 Yeah man
Roger's shots are so varied, spin, height, tempo, angle, FH/BH, at the net, position. Rivetting to see such variety moment to moment. How does his serve explode off the court though.. That part I don't get.
6-4, 6-4.
A Brilliant Straight Sets Victory For A Post-prime Roger Federer Against The World No.1 Novak Djokovic At A Masters 1000 Event. 💪 🏆
Amazing tennis from Federer but will be very interesting to see the whole match!
Imagine this Federer playing Alcaraz..😮💨
Com Federer o Tênis recuperou a sua beleza e magnitude. Gratidão!
Saw it live
I know Novak is the GOAT but from a watchability standpoint, give me Roger every day of the week over Novak.
Novak got. the statistics. Roger the skill. Imagine a rafa with novaks genetic. Would be unbeatable.
For me is Roger the goat. In his prime he was unbeatable. The best player ever for me.
@@ackermann2754Nah man that would be the 2016 Doha Final version of Djokovic. Highest level of tennis ever.
Fair enough
@@justchillin63142017 roger federer in Indian Wells against Nadal best player in history
our Rog is such a nice fella.
Cosa dire? Un grande match, giocato da un Federer strepitoso. Lo si vede anche dalla mimica facciale di Djokovich che era dura tener testa a tanta classe e a tale spinta agonistica. Con un Federer così, credo che nessun giocatore possa fare molto. Parliamo, infatti, non di un ottimo giocatore, ma del GOAT del tennis mondiale! Buonasera
Djokovic - Federer head to head record on hard court is 27 - 23 for Djokovic (13-6 in finals)
El mejor jugador de la historia.
Beautiful attacking tennis by Federer in this match, Djokovic did well to win a total of 8 games here and he really did have to dig quite deep in some of his service games in the 2nd set to hold on.
Some of Federer's service games were done in under 1 minute, Nadull the slowpoke would need that much time between his 1st and 2nd serves lol
@@redfox14-ffox Noddy lol
I don't know why Roger didn't always play this aggressively...😢
Because it requires incredible timing, footwork, shot selection and return performance. Even Roger can't deliver all of these consantly
Because they made the court, so damn slow
You can't switch it on and off. Rafa put it well when asked this: "I'm not winning because I'm being aggressive, I'm being aggressive because I've been winning."
Ya need to be confident
Because it is a super fast court and indoor with perfect conditions and it is in 2015 which was overall a very good year for Roger…
Physical. Fed is 7 years older than Joker, and he still overpowered the later when he was in his mid-30s while Joker was in his prime time.
When was this? Was it a final, SF, QF? You should put the date.
It was Rogers smooth tennis, no power but great movement on the court, especially at net, this makes him different from other players.
Hey there, this is Roger on a smurf account. Appreciate the words, I did my best.
Just goes to show how much better Federer was on fast courts. If we look at fast courts like Cincinnati, Dubai and Shanghai Federer has a healthy lead over Djokovic.
Back in the 2000s when Grand Slams were fast Federer was dominating. US Open and Australian Open both slowed down significantly in late 2000s onwards and particularly early 2010s. Federer didn't become a lesser player in the 2010s it's just that he was getting out of his peak in his 30s while facing 2 younger GOATs who were in their peak in mid 20s at the same time courts slowed down significantly hurting his attacking game and benefiting the defensive/counter punching baseline defense of Djokovic and Nadal.
When the greatest shot maker in tennis history is switched on, there is nothing the greatest counter puncher in tennis can do.
Even if that was hypothetically true, this wasn’t the best version of Djokovic.
@justchillin6314 nor was it the best version of Federer... What's your point?
@@CostarreraGT_the_allknowing Lol, the point is that peak Djokovic is the highest level of tennis and you can’t disprove it otherwise as Djokovic attainted the highest ELO rating in tennis history. It’s why we have stats in tennis to prevent subjectivity.
What a player fedrer
Head to head - 27 Wins Djokovic, 24 Wins Federer
The day Federer showed Djokovic he was and will ever be the Greatest of all time no matter the 24 GS 😂
What made this 4 aces in a row much special because it was against Novak, the greatest returner of all time
This is the main reason why even before Novak and RAFA had more slams than Roger, when they were on, and he was on; my bet was always on Roger, when Roger was on in my opinion, he’s unbeatable, by anybody on tour playing their best, show me a match where that’s not true.
Whenever there's a crushing loss like this fr prime novak against grandpa fed, the novak fans cannot acknowledge that novak tried all he could but fed in this form on a fast court renders novak helpless.. Absolutely nothing he can do but shrug and clap... GOAT vs BOAT.
@@drnirmalraj2456Not true, Djokovic is both the goat and boat, facts don’t care about feelings.
Does ur facts explain how badly outclassed djokovic was made to look here by an aged federer? How is novak the greatest of all time if he's getting whipped like this and he can't even begin to counter anything from fed?
@@drnirmalraj2456 Lmao, brotha, the h2h was 27-23 to Djokovic, cope? Djokovic beat Federer in 3 Wimbledon finals (Fed’s best surface) and smoked Fed in straight sets at the 2008 AO. Federer only ever beat a pre-prime Djokovic on his best surface at the AO in the 4th round lol. Never defeated Djokovic in any finals. It was only even on fast hardcourts but Djokovic was better everywhere else and the stats prove it so quit telling fibs.
If federer played consistently this game throughout.. Then no one in the history of tennis would have been able to beat him..
I think Sampras could tbh
God mode!
When Roger wins a point against Djokovic, turns around and walks away. When Djokovic wins a point against Norrie, he's like Gladiator "are you not entertained"! Even with one handed backhand, doesn't have to moan on every shot.
Your “goat” got schooled here. Novak could never play a tennis like this. Let him win 20 more slams, Roger will remain the soul of tennis.