Thank you so much for honestly speaking on this topic. I have over 20 years experience being entrenched in AA. I can’t even express my thoughts. I was taught to not trust them. All I know to do is to hate them. I can barely even string words together because I doubt everything that comes out of my mouth to my mind. Constantly having to run it by someone else. It will take some time for these things to be unprogrammed. It is very painful and there is much grief. It is sad to see the extent to which I see myself as the enemy. And the truth is, this is not the truth.
Thank you for writing this. This is a perfect description of the damage to the human psychie that can happen from that program. Not to everyone, but this 100% happened to me. That’s exactly where I ended up, hating and not trusting myself and couldn’t make ANY decision for myself no matter how small without either praying or calling someone else. My wife used to tease me that I have to call someone before I’m allowed to eat 😂 you can unwind that, it took me about 1.5 years to unwind that brainwashing. We are not powerless, we are not born with a disease from birth that leaves us completely fkd in life without AA, we are pieces of god with divinity written in our DNA
I am not sure I’m replying to these correctly or if it notifies you or whatever but want to say thanks for sharing and hang in there. In general when I see people outgrow that program and leave it’s about 9-12 months before the brainwashing starts to deprogram and the fear starts to disappear. Was 1.5 years for me, so hang in there. There are many great tools you can take from AA that will keep you on track like meditation, amends when wrong, and helping people…but the damaging negative self talk let’s not bring that
Thanks for your videos. I’m not anti AA. But for me personally I have found it has made things harder for me over the years. Been in and out of sober living, detox, hospitals and so forth for 10 years and at one point even fully committed to the program. My final bottom was being homeless and stealing for my addiction and spent 2 months in jail. That was enough for me. I have 8 months sober and have a apartment, good job at a restaurant, and ride my bike a lot. I still have a lot of work to do but I have zero cravings. You talked in a previous video about reprogramming yourself from AA and I never heard it out like that before of being afraid or like your doing something wrong if you don’t do AA. I’m not powerless. I choose to get up and go to work and stay active and work on my mental health but I fear it’s going to take some time to unlearn all the AA your doomed and your the problem mentality. Like I said I’m not anti AA and possibly it has some benefits but for me I don’t like what it’s done to my thinking. Also the fact if you tell a hardcore AA believer your doing it on your own or without spiritually and with science they get resentments which is ironic and try to talk you back into there grips. I’m going to look into this meditation even though I’m not having cravings it would be good extra protection. Also going to learn more on how to think for myself more. Thank you . 8 months!! no opiates, alcohol, weed, or benzos!! Just cigarettes and coffee plus hard work. 😎
Brother!!!!! Amazingly written. 8 FUCKING MONTHS! Wahoooooo 🎉 dude that’s seriously huge might be bigger than you realize, reality has def set in for you initial sobriety euphoria has worn off and you’re STILL SOBER. whatever you’re doin PLEASE keep it up. You’re NOT powerless. You sound like you’re experiencing true moments of peace. Dude I was having a rough day and read this and realize actually no the fuck I’m not life is amazing we are sober! And you’re really doing it, nothin but cigs and caffeine. I did it like that for a decade, stone cold sober I know that’s not easy you’re doing awesome. Man great to connect. Hey, have you looked into mediating at all? You mentioned thinking for yourself, the first step is identifying thinking, this is where meditation is crucial. Just an idea. Anything I can do to help or just wanna chat dm me ig. Appreciate you
To be honest I’m actually pretty proud of my sobriety time. Dealing with life and my emotions is not always easy but I guess I am retraining my brain. I am learning that I was sedated for a long time and the only way I get over my anxiety is facing them and with exposure therapy. I don’t know much about meditating but it’s something I considered. Sometimes at the end of the day I listen to blizzard sounds and try to relax I guess that’s a form of meditating. What’s helping me with my sober more than anything Is staying busy. Like I said I’ve tried before but I know I’m done with my old life. Definitely have to unlearn some things I thought were the truth but that also is going to take time. Going to stay on this path. Thanks again for reaching out.
Exactly, it's a fact that quitting booze not only makes your world a better place to be in, good things start to “magically” happen and the energy is insane! Steffon Barkload's latest work, that’s the best shortcut I go’ogled that took less than a week to work without suffering withdrawal.
I’m 23, I grew up with alcoholic parents, they were also on meth. I didn’t starting drinking until around 20. Before 20, I always vowed not too drink. I don’t know why I even really started, but it’s ruined a lot of stuff in my life. Can I order this stuff in Oklahoma?
Dang man sorry to hear that, brutal I get it. I really have no idea on the med sorry. Glad you’re looking to take action though because you can definitely get out
@@VibeWithTrevor thank you so so much! That’s really cool of you. I’m still drinking, but I’m trying too cut back day by day. Substituting it the drink with things like walking the block, exorcising, reading. I’m about too get my medical card as well, I’m hoping too switch too something more healthy that I can still relax with. Thank you for checking up man, it means a lot. I hope you’re okay too
Thank you so much for honestly speaking on this topic. I have over 20 years experience being entrenched in AA. I can’t even express my thoughts. I was taught to not trust them. All I know to do is to hate them. I can barely even string words together because I doubt everything that comes out of my mouth to my mind. Constantly having to run it by someone else. It will take some time for these things to be unprogrammed. It is very painful and there is much grief. It is sad to see the extent to which I see myself as the enemy. And the truth is, this is not the truth.
Thank you for writing this. This is a perfect description of the damage to the human psychie that can happen from that program. Not to everyone, but this 100% happened to me. That’s exactly where I ended up, hating and not trusting myself and couldn’t make ANY decision for myself no matter how small without either praying or calling someone else. My wife used to tease me that I have to call someone before I’m allowed to eat 😂 you can unwind that, it took me about 1.5 years to unwind that brainwashing. We are not powerless, we are not born with a disease from birth that leaves us completely fkd in life without AA, we are pieces of god with divinity written in our DNA
I’m almost 3 years in AA, recently left , I feel your pain , I need to reprogram only after 3 years , so my heart goes out to you x
I am not sure I’m replying to these correctly or if it notifies you or whatever but want to say thanks for sharing and hang in there. In general when I see people outgrow that program and leave it’s about 9-12 months before the brainwashing starts to deprogram and the fear starts to disappear. Was 1.5 years for me, so hang in there. There are many great tools you can take from AA that will keep you on track like meditation, amends when wrong, and helping people…but the damaging negative self talk let’s not bring that
@@Avievan91 thank you
@@VibeWithTrevor I’m not sure I’m replying to the right place either but I wanted to say thank you
Thanks for your videos. I’m not anti AA. But for me personally I have found it has made things harder for me over the years. Been in and out of sober living, detox, hospitals and so forth for 10 years and at one point even fully committed to the program. My final bottom was being homeless and stealing for my addiction and spent 2 months in jail. That was enough for me. I have 8 months sober and have a apartment, good job at a restaurant, and ride my bike a lot. I still have a lot of work to do but I have zero cravings. You talked in a previous video about reprogramming yourself from AA and I never heard it out like that before of being afraid or like your doing something wrong if you don’t do AA. I’m not powerless. I choose to get up and go to work and stay active and work on my mental health but I fear it’s going to take some time to unlearn all the AA your doomed and your the problem mentality. Like I said I’m not anti AA and possibly it has some benefits but for me I don’t like what it’s done to my thinking. Also the fact if you tell a hardcore AA believer your doing it on your own or without spiritually and with science they get resentments which is ironic and try to talk you back into there grips. I’m going to look into this meditation even though I’m not having cravings it would be good extra protection. Also going to learn more on how to think for myself more. Thank you . 8 months!! no opiates, alcohol, weed, or benzos!! Just cigarettes and coffee plus hard work. 😎
Brother!!!!! Amazingly written. 8 FUCKING MONTHS! Wahoooooo 🎉 dude that’s seriously huge might be bigger than you realize, reality has def set in for you initial sobriety euphoria has worn off and you’re STILL SOBER. whatever you’re doin PLEASE keep it up. You’re NOT powerless. You sound like you’re experiencing true moments of peace. Dude I was having a rough day and read this and realize actually no the fuck I’m not life is amazing we are sober! And you’re really doing it, nothin but cigs and caffeine. I did it like that for a decade, stone cold sober I know that’s not easy you’re doing awesome. Man great to connect. Hey, have you looked into mediating at all? You mentioned thinking for yourself, the first step is identifying thinking, this is where meditation is crucial. Just an idea. Anything I can do to help or just wanna chat dm me ig. Appreciate you
To be honest I’m actually pretty proud of my sobriety time. Dealing with life and my emotions is not always easy but I guess I am retraining my brain. I am learning that I was sedated for a long time and the only way I get over my anxiety is facing them and with exposure therapy. I don’t know much about meditating but it’s something I considered. Sometimes at the end of the day I listen to blizzard sounds and try to relax I guess that’s a form of meditating. What’s helping me with my sober more than anything Is staying busy. Like I said I’ve tried before but I know I’m done with my old life. Definitely have to unlearn some things I thought were the truth but that also is going to take time. Going to stay on this path. Thanks again for reaching out.
Man sounds like you’ve found a great path I love to hear this
Congrats on staying sober for 9 years! subbed for more!
Yo!! Thanks man!! Hope your day was well
@@VibeWithTrevor It was good thanks. I make videos on quitting bad habits as well. Would love for you to follow along my journey!
Dude that’s awesome thanks for letting me know! I’m in!
@@VibeWithTrevor I appreciate it, looking forward to seeing our journeys fulfill themselves!
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I’m so happy I came across your channel , you speak with such honesty & integrity, much love for you bro ❤
thanks so much for that, super nice of you to say 😃 I hope you have a great evening
Exactly, it's a fact that quitting booze not only makes your world a better place to be in, good things start to “magically” happen and the energy is insane! Steffon Barkload's latest work, that’s the best shortcut I go’ogled that took less than a week to work without suffering withdrawal.
Thanks for the suggestion I’ll check that out!
I’m 23, I grew up with alcoholic parents, they were also on meth. I didn’t starting drinking until around 20. Before 20,
I always vowed not too drink. I don’t know why I even really started, but it’s ruined a lot of stuff in my life. Can I order this stuff in Oklahoma?
Dang man sorry to hear that, brutal I get it. I really have no idea on the med sorry. Glad you’re looking to take action though because you can definitely get out
Sup man, circling back here. How are you? How’s life?
@@VibeWithTrevor thank you so so much! That’s really cool of you. I’m still drinking, but I’m trying too cut back day by day. Substituting it the drink with things like walking the block, exorcising, reading. I’m about too get my medical card as well, I’m hoping too switch too something more healthy that I can still relax with. Thank you for checking up man, it means a lot. I hope you’re okay too
Man great read thank you for these words, glad you’re finding a good path my man!