NEW Kimber KDS9c: A Modernized Carry 1911
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- @JamesReeves visits Kimber at SHOT Show 2024 to see their newest 1911-style pistol. Per Kimber:
"The NEW KDS9c from Kimber is a testament to over 4 decades of the highest level of firearms manufacturing. The KDS9c was built from the ground up as a personal protection masterpiece. The barrel is fully fluted, crowned, and ramped. Our proprietary bore sizing process delivers match grade accuracy with every shot. Our engineers specified 7075 aerospace-grade aluminum to develop the frame featuring a fully integrated cross-hatch textured design for the front and the back strap that flows with the grip to deliver superior grip ergonomics. The magazine release is reversible for left and right-handed shooters. A crisp 3.5-4.5lb trigger pull comes standard as well as two 15-round magazines which anchor the KDS9c as the premier personal protection platform that enhances your ability to defend yourself no matter the situation."
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That was a really impressive amount of "it's proprietary"
This
To be fair, Staccato is proprietary too.
@@andyhenderson441 and 100X's better.
They're not known for quality, they have several products that are known for needing to be sent back at least once. They have outdated, small cap guns with proprietary mags. Not only that but $1700?! Every single gun they make you're better off buying something else. Who keeps them in business?
The kind ppl buying $1700 1911s arent concerned with that
I think she could kick James’s ass. Easily
He'd be so into it!
She wrestles Alligators with those arms 😆
James would lose in seconds
yours too!
This is a wild comments i laugh knowing james 100% has seen it 😂
Well shes a dude soo....@jamesR1990
Came to the comments to see Kimber hate. Was not disappointed. Good job everybody =)
same. love the kds9c it's a hoot to shoot and hangs right there with my XC and shadow 2 compact. also really dig the Rapides which i keep in 9, 10, and 45.
would love a coonan flavored rapide in .357 Magnum!
WHOA!!! A rail and an ambi safety? We're truly living in the future.
And with legendary Kimber quality for the low low price of $1700!
@@Absolute_Goblin And they give you the list of ammo that it can shoot for free. Then just buy some proprietary mags and holster and I'm ready to go, glad to see they used proprietary grips in platform that has millions of options too.
@@JuggoJuggo
So instead of just saying it'll eat everything they are upfront what works best and what doesn' t? CZs need a shorter oal and the forums are full of ammo that doesn't run well. Who would've thought that a double stack 1911 not made in Turkey or the Philippines would cost more and not just importing parts either cost more money? I don't even own a Kimber but jumping on the hate train is so convenient. Making it slim but double stack and not buying foreign mags for that could never lead to proprietary components. Wash me, but don't make me wet.
@@onpsxmember I like Berettas for nice metal framed pistols mine eats any crap I can put in there, randoms I found in a bag, even Civil Defense runs in it fine. CZs are a pain in ass to grab the slide, didn't know they had ammo problems, my friends and the other people on the league don't have any obvious problems, only one CZ is stock though. I'm not on a hate train, I sold guns for about 3 years, for the price Kimber should be better, some of best looking stuff around, but for that price there are way better options. All the proprietary stuff and their crap mags is stupid, you should have seen the look on peoples faces when I told them that Springfield 1911 mags work in Kimbers, "Wait. what, THANK GOD!" Too many stories about people having to have work done on feed ramps too, they always have good customer service though, guess practice makes perfect. The whole carry 1911 is stupid to me anyway so I'm a bit biased, like a fancy horse and buggy in the day of Demons.
For a gun company based in New York I’m sure it feels like the future LOL
Hop looks.... different. I like what he did with his hair.
Really love the fact most companies making "carry 1911s" fail to understand what makes a good carry gun, considering almost none of them use a shorter grip length, almost all of them shorten the barrel for seemingly no reason, and they almost always make them in 9mm. At that point, you're paying $2k anyways, may as well just buy a 2011 and save yourself the hassle of having to tune a 9mm 1911.
For clarification: There's nothing wrong with shortening the barrel, it's just odd that it's usually the only thing that changes size on a carry gun.
Some common fucking sense, thank you. The slide is not hard to conceal unless it's super long; the grip is the most likely thing to show.
Lol I bought a commander length RIA for carry just to realize it gave me literally no benefit after 6 months
@horseman2777 If you like Commander length barrel/slide and want it on your carry, get a CCO. The CCO model has a good reputation of reliability, amongst other *real* carry models of 1911s. For reference, a CCO is an officer frame with a commander sized barrel/slide. A lot of manufacturers label their 1911s as a CCO when really they're just a commander size (which also irks the FUCK outta me), so be sure to double check.
As a side note, while I don't mind the officer size personally, I've heard it has a lesser reputation for reliability, while the defender sizes are a bit better. Overall, as mentioned previously, you're just better off sticking with a CCO.
To be fair, most modern carry guns have a shorter barrel than their full-sized counterparts. One of the newest Glock models is literally just a compact frame with a full size slide.
Ppl who carry 1911s fail to understand a lot
Does it come with the legendary kimber unreliability?
With that Kimber guarantee!
And price!
If they include that option, it'll be proprietary.
This is certainly one of the proprietary pew pews of all time
I have a deep seated loathing for myself know that I want one of these so badly.
Kimber guy putting off used car salesman vibes
Impressive biceps.
Made James look like a twink by comparison.
I think he meant on Blair. LOL. Sorry James.@@HWG-wm8ld
The 2024 Kimber Jam-O-Matic lineup looks sweet😂
You own one? I got two, has not jammed once over 1k rounds each.
I'm sure your yeet cannon eats everything 😂
Buff shooting spicy ginger!!!🤤
I like mine a lot, they need to step up production on the optic plates though, still can’t find one in stock
Fudds will be so confused by this
Just this? Lol
LoL
@@thefrogking481 oh go cry to someone who cares
@@thefrogking481 it is certainly painful reading you trying to be clever, that hurts all of us
How does someone know if they are a Fudd? Asking for a friend.@@rebelscumspeedshop
would be nice if an optic plate was actually AVAILABLE!
Side note: judging by the way that guy talks about the product, he has spent a VERY long time in sales/marketing.
Grew up on 75b’s and 226’s. Always been a DA/SA guy. Something about this really speaks to me lol. They knocked the styling out the park
To be honest though, it really is not better than a CZ75, this probably gets less accuracy and less reliability in a smaller package, that is entirely proprietary to it's design.
I would just get a CZ 75 Compact D PCR, it is 1K less than this and probably weighs less and will be easier to get accessories for.
The KDS9c would be a far cooler gun if it was chambered in 40S&W or 45ACP and was double stack.
@RedZeppelinAirship less accuracy? Are you high? 1911 platforms are right there with CZs in terms of accuracy. Reliability...well, with Kimber at the helm it wouldn't surprise me if you were correct there.
@RedZeppelinAirship less accuracy? Are you high? 1911 platforms are right there with CZs in terms of accuracy. Reliability...well, with Kimber at the helm it wouldn't surprise me if you were correct there.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036 I was saying for the kimber 😂 not 1911s in general
A smooth backstrap? I'm not following the logic of that. Checkered backstrap is where it's at for good grip. Proprietary usually means expensive and hard to find aftermarket support.
As she says with everything, "it's not too smooth, but not too grippy."
Lol, when I was working at cabelas, kimber was #3 for returns and rma work behind Turkish shotguns and taurus.
Would not spend a dime of my money on a kimber.
I work at a shop and we actively choose to not regularly carry kimbers because we don’t want to deal with the headaches. Coworkers Dad didn’t believe us and had one of their .45s transferred in. Poor thing didn’t even live through half of a magazine.
Mim, forged or machined internals?
Kimber is still in business?
I'm genuinely racking my brain trying to figure out who buys all of these kimbers! They're unreliable, outdated, overpriced, small cap, etc. Who out there buys this gun?! You can get a Dan Wesson for less!
There's a sucker born every day
Why does it have a smooth back strap?
James, you need to photoshop your arms dude, that woman Blair had bigger arms than you. You don’t need a firearm in her company, she is the gun with guns.
bro blair is massive, i'm actually impressed
😂😂😂
You guys going to be at enforce tac again this year?
Let me know when the full size (5” barrel/18+rounds/pic rail) comes out.
Should made it mag compatible with anything 2011.Glock, Sig 226 or320, anything but a Kimber mag
If they made it mag compatible with a 2011, then they would need the grip profile of a 2011. Same for Glock mags, the whole point of this gun was to have a slimmer and more ergonomic grip. That said, I agree that using a Sig or CZ mag might have been preferable.
If they did that, it wouldn't have the junker reliability that Kimber magazines are known for. And who the hell would want something like that to happen?
Ive never had a kimber but something tells me to stay away
I know, I was all stoked to buy one but these comments are blistering Kimber, a brand I know very little about.
I own 3. Only had 1 jam and that was during the first 25 rounds. Never had another after that in any of them.
I wonder why they get such a bad reputation
Why does the outro music sound like that scene of Buffalo Bill dancing and tucking in his basement….
Because James needs something to dance and tuck to while editing videos in his basement.
@@rickh9396would you do me? Id do me. Id do me so hard
-james
It’s actually amazing that kimber is staying in business
Cant say id ever spend $1700 on a kimber in 2024 when you can spend a couple hundred more and get one of a dozen 2011's from actual reputable manufacturers
A platypus
@@gilbertohernandez9223 I just just thinking about them too. Why make proprietary mags when a Stealth Arms just uses Glock mags and has better build quality.
and complete customization on colors, slide cut options etc.@@rogerj412
One of these days you people will figure out that MSRP is always a lot higher than street price.
@tortol4847 You do realize this applies across the board right? You can get Wilson's below sticker too just the same
That is a nice looking firearm
OK Sir, a quick & simple question for you. I'm on the verge of replacing / upgrading my Car Pistol (not carry). After much research, down to two options. This KDS9c Rail? Or Sig P229 Legion SAO?
I Shot this gun, NO GRIP SAFETY, its AWESOME!
I miss the days when we got new and exciting firearms to look forward to every year...like where is this years "fs2000" or something cool and different
Can't expect something new and wild every year. Unfortunately based on the current crop of youtube commandos, anything new and different is automatically pointless and junk.
@@LIGHTNING278TH just tired of endless striker fired 9mms, would be nice to see some new rifles for sure
@@fearlessleader8623 the main issue is that there's not really much to improve on, nor incentive to improve to begin with.
we've kinda peaked in terms of small arms, especially rifles.
18 chances for a failure to feed. Thought about buying a kimber many times but always talk myself out of it due to their history or problems.
I have one, without the rail. Almost 1000 rds not one hiccup, love this pistol. But i love metal frame hammer fired. I have carried it and it is no problem. I love all the hate, without holding it, without shooting it,
The lack of reliability is really overstated. They make about 10 times as many 1911s as all other manufacturers, so naturally, they have more lemons, and people love to talk about a bad gun more than a good one.
Furthermore, from what I understand, Kimber has amazing customer support, and will fix any problems you come across.
I bought a used Kimber TLE RL 2, and with the exception of a cheap 10 round mag (that jammed in any 1911 I put it in), it has been flawless.
I did "replace" it with a Dan Wesson Specialist, as that was my dream gun, but I still have it, and plan on giving it to my son once he's old enough.
That all being said, there's a lot of "similar" stuff at or around that price point with more aftermarket support.
To be fair, if you want a gun with the exact same feature set (aluminum frame, optic cut, ambi-safety, and a rail), you're going to have to buy a Wilson Combat EDC X9 for about twice the price.
@@dannydean3024 If the DWX hadn't come out, and I hadn't been lucky enough to get one, I probably would have bought a KDS9c. (I'm still waiting on a non-compact version.)
@@theodorehunter4765 a full sized version would be very tempting. My wife and I love 1911s
That fluting is sweet
Why Kimber produced a new model without a rail and ambi safety is beyond me in the first place. I have and like Kimbers so not hating.
But does it have issues like every other 1911 you make. Especially in 9mm. That’s why I sold every Kimber I had.
Lol best shot show segment of 2024 ill leave that to your imagination lol check his phone
Kimber is not what it was in the late 80's. I thought about buying one about 5yrs ago and my gunsmith said, when it malfunctions, don't call me!
I think, what everyone is waiting for is a DA/SA hellcat Size, for conceal carry, smith and Wesson almost got it and forget frame in aluminum, with only a de cocker.
Pretty cool they let carrot top in on the interview...
Most gingers, contrary to legend, do in fact have souls...
Wrong prop case
“You bet”
That's LTT PX4 Compact monies...
When 2011!!!!
10mm??
Honestly Kimber is exactly what you’d expect from a gun company that started out based in New York. Mother had 2 kimbers, one in .380 and another in 9mm. Neither could get through an entire magazine without a feed issue. Dad had a carry pro with similar feeding issues. I’ve never been much of a kimber guy so I haven’t owned any. Last year we bought a kimber rifle as a gift for a family member. Tried to sight it in, fucking thing had stuck cases to the point of needing a hammer. Would give the gun a full deep clean thinking maybe a dirty chamber, nope. Swapped ammo, nothing. I’ve lost all respect for them as a company, 4 for 4 on guns that have issues, I’m good.
2k for a base carry gun add 200+ for a light another 200+ for mags way better options for way less
Will Kimber tell me to shoot at least 1000 rounds to break in the gun before I can send it back for constant malfunctions, flaking finish, and crooked sights while only giving a one year warranty? This happened to me years ago on a $1500 Kimber. Sold it and never bought another one. Kimber Sucks!
After seeing Blair, I kind of forgot about Kimber. What gun were they talking about?
Love everything EXCEPT no grip safety?!
I have had two Kimbers, and both have had feeding problems. I hope this one is good.
Why do you hate yourself?
@@Brandon-yq1tmnot everyone is born with averages IQs
@PheonixRises2040 Let me guess... You're French?
@@Brandon-yq1tm Just hate spending money on unreliable crap.
Blare Got 3 Guns 😎
Will it still rust if you carry it and then Kimber will charge you to refinish it like other modern Kimber offerings? That would be great…
3:58 She’s on that Raw Milk diet too 👀
Love the idea, but at that price a DWX Compact looks more appealing.
Cheaper then a stacatto , in line with a bull armory 2011 .
How much to buy the red head. 😂😉
She's got some guns on her.
EDC9 at home. Will it have Kimber's legendary malfunction drill technology?
It's like watching a corporate time capsule
No mag, grip or holster compatibility and it’s listed for $1900 on their website.. sounds like a steal lol
I bet you need a proprietary fucking cleaning brush too, don't worry it'll only set you back another $500.
Kimber? Never again!
VERY BEAUTIFUL 😍❤️.
Who’s the red headed dude?
Customers not consumers. I hate corporate speak so much.
James seems disappointed to be there 🤣
Wow, the Kimber rep really just can’t follow direction
Why does the guy seem like he’s reading from an infomercial
How much can she Deadlift? (asking for a friend)
What's her @ ?
When people say they have a Kimber and they "haven't had a single malfunction," you can assume that person is a liar.
New because they added a rail? Should have come that way from the beginning, just a way to build a second gun for those who bought V1.
Guy is really trying to sell ya on the Kimber, i love guns but i could never handle shotshows carnival barkers and aggressive salesmen 😂
There’s people on here that hate Kimber more than I hate Polaris, so I’ve seen enough.
Copied homework from Wilson Combat EDCX9
The same people complaining about proprietary engineering also complain about zero innovation in the industry.
I bought one Kimber. ONE. It started malfunctioning because of the crappy MIM wrongly done extractor. Today the ONLY thing still original is the stainless frame. Literally that's it. I built my own custom 1911 on my own for the first time by hand taking my time buying quality parts and fitting them by learning how to do it watching videos from the best. Better fit and much higher quality than the Kimber crap parts it came with
To much specific for this gun,it looks cool and love the capacity,should have used off the shelf mag at least. I get there making that money but dam.
Fully Machined? What gun isn't fully machined?
Needs a bayonet lug
Kimber is the SONY of 1911. Take something everyone uses and make something proprietary!
Wait a minute, is that Blair Bennett?
No, blayr drumm
Blair has bigger guns than James LOL. The railed KDS9c is interesting but I'm not sure there is a spot for it in the ever-growing 2011 world (especially at the price of $1750!).
Darn, Blair has guns for her guns.
Om going to drop a PH comment... What is Blair's full name?
It looks really good… but at the end of the day it’s still a kimber
More interested in Blair than the gun.
Good god that’s expensive.
That’s just as much as the Wilson Combat ed9 or whatever it’s called and the Wilson is 100% handfit
To get a EDC X9 with the same features, it would cost TWICE that much. Not defending this gun (I think it is overpriced), but I don't think WC knows any dollar amounts below $3000 exist.
Kimber . .. high end ... 😆 🤣
Meh...Kimber is always underwhelming with questionable QC stories. Makes it hard to get on board with the brand when half price options work great.
People still buy Kimbers ??
For that price get a nighthawk
This comment section: People talking about kimber who have never owned a single kimber product and repeating what some UA-camr said 10 years ago
It's true I personally never owned one. Fortunately for me, my friend and cousin both made that mistake. Not all life lessons are expensive but they're just as valuable.
Bro...put a Kimber 1911 mag in a Dan Wesson Specialist....turns it into a junker. But, I always buy Kimber mags, because I love to hate on my overpriced garbage DW Specialist.
Yeah,I must be the luckiest Kimber 1911 owner ever. I have 5 of them bought in the early 2000's and run everything from 230 gr fmj, Hp factory ammo to my own reloads 230 gr lead hardball and 185 gr lead swc's. All I've ever ran are the Kimber pro tac mags and I've never had the first problem out of any of them. Makes me wonder how in the hell so many people have had such catastrophic failure with a brand and their still in business.
It's really sweet but a $1700 EDC is not a thing for 95% of the population. From what I understand it does not do anything that any other 1911/2011/etc already does except take propriatary grips.
Concealed carry? It is half an inch higher than a Glock 17 and five ounces heavier.
1050.00 so def affordable
Weren't they popular two decades ago or was that just good marketing? 😂 can someone help me understand what they did to have this comments section trash the hell out of them?
I have an ultra carry 2 from the 90's and its been extremely reliable. Of course sample size of 1 and all that...
This video gave me a failure to feed
LMFAO