I don't mean to be rude but this is a pretty poor review. I've been using this mod for awhile now and you seem unaware of things that are described on the actual mod page. Specifically the fragility of the minions. You can equip them with literally anything, and they will use it. You can give them fully enchanted gear and weapons and everything. The only downside is that skeletons wont visibly wear the gear if the base game doesn't have a mesh for that armor on the skeleton. The stats still carry over as if they are wearing it tho, and if using thralls based on normal npc's this isn't an issue at all. You also didn't cover the benefits and mechanics of promoting or demoting undead units. All in all this video can give people a peek at the mod, but is downright misleading in basic aspects spelled out on the mod page.
These are fair criticisms Grigori. You're not rude, just honest. I didn't read the mod page in its entirety. I skimmed it to get the basics, then I dived head first into the mod and experienced it in a uninformed kind of way to also be able to gauge how intuitive it is. Consider it a brief look and an opinion rather than a detailed review I suppose. Thank you for the information though.
@@chebgonaz I suppose that's a fair approach. To gauge its intuitive aspect I mean. That isn't the impression I got while watching however, and had I not already been familiar with the mod I might have been turned off of it based on this video, or found it lacking when in reality these issues are addressed within the mod and its page. This is one of the best necromancy experiences out there, and I just feel this video didn't do the mod justice.
@@grigori3506 After what you've said, I did some additional testing and you're right: I think part of why the undead seemed so fragile to me is that I never "marked" any of them, so none of them were regenerating any health. This would explain why I saw powerful minions like keepers die in a few hits to relatively weak enemies. They were already weakened. I can see now I have been unfair to the mod in this respect. I'm not sure why that freshly made subjugated spirit died to one blast from the elf mage though. What I can do better in the future is be sure to emphasize more clearly that it's a brief look rather than a full, detailed review (if my video doesn't cover all aspects of a mod). I tried to explain this at the end, explaining that I only went up to around level 50 Necromancy and also mentioned that I didn't cover every aspect/feature of the mod, but I didn't express this well enough I think. Also for a mod this large, I should really read everything and make sure I know the details well. This is common sense, but... I suppose I was in a rush.
@@highskies1262 Thanks, there's not enough humility in the world so I've gotta do my part. Only thing left is to address my mistake. I suppose a follow up video is the best way. I'll figure something out
Boneman, Wrathman, Mistman and Keepers were entities from vanilla Skyrims Dawnguard dlc, in a region called the Soul Cairn, Bone/Mist/Wrath inparticular were summons u could get in the base game
Cheb, you ever played Tactics Ogre? Theres necromancy involved there, though its an older game so its hard to find useful info on it. You can resuurrect your troops when they die as zombies and can recruit skeletons and ghosts to your army. Making your troops zombies stops their ability to level up and alter their classes, but it means when they are "killed" in battle, they'll reanimate themselves 3 turns later at no cost. Skeletons and ghosts can still change classes IIRC and gain experience. You can even become a lich which lets you cast any spell in the game except "light" spells I think, but liches are strangely not undead so they wont self-res ironically. But you can easily make an ar,y of skeleton soldiers/archers backed up by ghost and/or zombified necromancers and even have on dude be a lich to lead them into battle. Its a satisfying necromancy experience.
Wow, 1995 and PS1. Sounds great, never played it before. It'd be difficult for me to investigate, being a PS1 game and all. I know there's emulators and stuff so it's not impossible. Thanks for the info.
Thanks Gabe, I hope it was informative enough. There's a lot to this mod but I didn't want to delay for more weeks and end up with a video that's 30 mins long covering every little detail.
What I really like about this mod is that I can use a really weak reanimate undead spell and the corpses do not turn to ash after I prepare them with equipment and such. So I find this mod pretty convenient.
Why does no one remake or copy the Corpse Preparation mod? Its one of the best Necro mod. All we want is permanent no dissapearing after death Skeletons/Zombies to guard our lair. (yeah and some cool Necro themed lairs mods would be cool too)
I often wonder the same thing. All it needs is to produce stronger minions for a bit cheaper and it'd be an insanely good mod. No one has done a necromancy lair for Skyrim unfortunately. Psikotics Necromancy mod started lair mechanics but it was abandoned. For good necromancy and lair stuff, check out Mysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy mod for Oblivion, if you haven't already. I have a video on it. It is very good. I wish something like it existed for Skyrim.
let's see if i can beat malacath with the first necromancy mod i ever used. and if not, then i'm getting the guns. because i already tried aswar of living people and failed.
I know why they did it, but I cant stand how in both Oblivion and Skyrim, you cant kill NPC's that the game considers essential. Though, I know there is a mod out there where you can tell the game to have every NPC be nonessential.
Am I doing something wrong every time I try to bring back out my stored dead it's well dead even though it was alive when I stored it in the first place then I have to cast undead thrall on it to bring it back to life which wastes one of my souls, please help
same issue even with the marked ones... whenever i banish and resummon marked thralls which were alive,spawns allready dead like dead dead licking the floor.i have to reanimate them again n again with undead thrall option every time i resummon them..this is stupid as fck..its not easy to get black soul gems. lol. i gifted my horseman a whole enchanted armor to keep him safe... he was alive and performing well until i banish n respawned him.
Don't care how late I am on this comment The keeper is a DLC enemy normally you only get to see them three times near the end of both sides to the quest line 😅 ( DLC ) (Dawn gard) ✴️ on a side-note most of the vampire mods required dawn gard dlc
@@chebgonaz sorry about that I despise autocorrect because it keeps changing everything I still have not found a way to disable autocorrect 😕 I have fixed the original comment seriously though has this ever happened to you
@@chebgonaz with that done I just realized that I have made a 7-foot mistake for not telling you that the keeper cannot be summoned without mods it is like a boss there are three of them they are unable to be summoned base dlc game
Im using this mod in my most recent playthrough, and im pretty happy with it though turning Skeevers into Giants is too immersion breaking for me so i dont use that feature. As for the Spectral Thrall, from my understanding you have to "promote" an undead you control to fill those slots.
also, use demote to get rid of your spare corpses being summoned by Summon Undead. Its the same as Dispose except faster and does it the next time you raise a minion instead of instantly.
@@chebgonaz with The Dark Arts any undead can be revived again, he disabled ash piles, so you can use the menu to cast Undead Thrall for only 1 soul to revive your undead
@@chebgonaz no problem, also I was wrong about Spectral Thralls, filling those slots is actually done by using Soul Bind on a reanimated Thrall, and then from then on you can summon ghostly copies of that undead with Spectral Thrall
Hi, sorry to hear that. That's frustrating. The most likely problem is that the mod is somehow incorrectly installed. I recommend you double check the install instructions and make sure everything is correct and if it's not that, you probably need to ask the mod maker themselves. Good luck
@@chebgonaz Yeah thank you haha, and btw I am sure this was some time ago since you played the mod but did you ever have a problem where your minions didnt attack? For me atm seems to only block not sure why? :o
@@geraltgrey-mane695 hmm, I don't think I had that issue. But it's been so long I don't remember. If I had encountered that, I'd have mentioned it in the video though, so I guess I didn't
not sure, probably. I think it's always a good idea to start a fresh game when using new mods like this (eg. non-cosmetic). You're asking for crashes otherwise
well personnally i have wait until very high level to create zombie of nice npc like the first companion who ide, skior something, and of course boost them while add 2 werewolf for the fun =), and since they have a spell to kind of ress them in the high level of the necromany skill well they deal nice damage =), and with recorder(a damn psycho no seriously send her in a fight you will not have to wait one minute to make her start laughing like a crazy and ask her enemy where they want her blade) and ignimo i got a good team of battle hungry npc =)
@@chebgonaz Well i have make sure that aela can't find skior in ircine afterdeath =) but yeah honestly when a dragon land on earth he usualy die reallly fast =), will try that on the ebony warriror and the women in the quest for the altearium forg quest they could be a good bonus to my litle army =) By the way if you want to have fun and play on pc spawn a huge number of high level enemy(i would recommand you warrior type as mag arent as funny to fight) and start a huge battle =), and well doing necromancy don't give xp so you can't pretty much be level 100 of that around level 15 if you be cautious and use a follower but yeah a great mod malus to the fact that some feature are hard to understand how they work and they are not a perk three for necromancy added
@@chebgonaz Yeah that would be annoying! I just dont feel like re-buying skyrim just for the special edition when I got other games coming up to enjoy like Hytale or Cyberpunk 2077
@@Mezcon2 Yeah re-purchasing it is dumb. Try waiting for like a 90% off sale or something. I think everyone who had Skyrim at all should have gotten SE for free. Sadly, you had to have Skyrim AND all its DLCs to get it for free, as far as I can remember anyway. SE does look better and also seems to be more stable than vanilla, but it's not worth full price. I think you should save your money and get new games instead.
I don't mean to be rude but this is a pretty poor review. I've been using this mod for awhile now and you seem unaware of things that are described on the actual mod page. Specifically the fragility of the minions. You can equip them with literally anything, and they will use it. You can give them fully enchanted gear and weapons and everything. The only downside is that skeletons wont visibly wear the gear if the base game doesn't have a mesh for that armor on the skeleton. The stats still carry over as if they are wearing it tho, and if using thralls based on normal npc's this isn't an issue at all. You also didn't cover the benefits and mechanics of promoting or demoting undead units. All in all this video can give people a peek at the mod, but is downright misleading in basic aspects spelled out on the mod page.
These are fair criticisms Grigori. You're not rude, just honest. I didn't read the mod page in its entirety. I skimmed it to get the basics, then I dived head first into the mod and experienced it in a uninformed kind of way to also be able to gauge how intuitive it is. Consider it a brief look and an opinion rather than a detailed review I suppose. Thank you for the information though.
@@chebgonaz I suppose that's a fair approach. To gauge its intuitive aspect I mean. That isn't the impression I got while watching however, and had I not already been familiar with the mod I might have been turned off of it based on this video, or found it lacking when in reality these issues are addressed within the mod and its page. This is one of the best necromancy experiences out there, and I just feel this video didn't do the mod justice.
@@grigori3506 After what you've said, I did some additional testing and you're right: I think part of why the undead seemed so fragile to me is that I never "marked" any of them, so none of them were regenerating any health. This would explain why I saw powerful minions like keepers die in a few hits to relatively weak enemies. They were already weakened. I can see now I have been unfair to the mod in this respect. I'm not sure why that freshly made subjugated spirit died to one blast from the elf mage though.
What I can do better in the future is be sure to emphasize more clearly that it's a brief look rather than a full, detailed review (if my video doesn't cover all aspects of a mod). I tried to explain this at the end, explaining that I only went up to around level 50 Necromancy and also mentioned that I didn't cover every aspect/feature of the mod, but I didn't express this well enough I think.
Also for a mod this large, I should really read everything and make sure I know the details well. This is common sense, but... I suppose I was in a rush.
@@chebgonaz Humility observed. Rare for a Necromancer. Respect awarded.
@@highskies1262 Thanks, there's not enough humility in the world so I've gotta do my part. Only thing left is to address my mistake. I suppose a follow up video is the best way. I'll figure something out
Boneman, Wrathman, Mistman and Keepers were entities from vanilla Skyrims Dawnguard dlc, in a region called the Soul Cairn, Bone/Mist/Wrath inparticular were summons u could get in the base game
Ash spawn as well, from Dragonborn dlc
@@awanderer7132 Good to know, thanks. I have the DLCs but haven't completed any of them.
Don't sound too excited now
Cheb, you ever played Tactics Ogre?
Theres necromancy involved there, though its an older game so its hard to find useful info on it. You can resuurrect your troops when they die as zombies and can recruit skeletons and ghosts to your army. Making your troops zombies stops their ability to level up and alter their classes, but it means when they are "killed" in battle, they'll reanimate themselves 3 turns later at no cost. Skeletons and ghosts can still change classes IIRC and gain experience.
You can even become a lich which lets you cast any spell in the game except "light" spells I think, but liches are strangely not undead so they wont self-res ironically. But you can easily make an ar,y of skeleton soldiers/archers backed up by ghost and/or zombified necromancers and even have on dude be a lich to lead them into battle. Its a satisfying necromancy experience.
Wow, 1995 and PS1. Sounds great, never played it before. It'd be difficult for me to investigate, being a PS1 game and all. I know there's emulators and stuff so it's not impossible. Thanks for the info.
Glad to see this video been waiting for a while and it was pretty good
Thanks Gabe, I hope it was informative enough. There's a lot to this mod but I didn't want to delay for more weeks and end up with a video that's 30 mins long covering every little detail.
Cheb Gonaz yeah I understand and if people really want to experiment more with the mod they could always just use the cheat menu to get a feel for it
What I really like about this mod is that I can use a really weak reanimate undead spell and the corpses do not turn to ash after I prepare them with equipment and such. So I find this mod pretty convenient.
That is a neat advantage, yup
Why does no one remake or copy the Corpse Preparation mod? Its one of the best Necro mod. All we want is permanent no dissapearing after death Skeletons/Zombies to guard our lair. (yeah and some cool Necro themed lairs mods would be cool too)
I often wonder the same thing. All it needs is to produce stronger minions for a bit cheaper and it'd be an insanely good mod. No one has done a necromancy lair for Skyrim unfortunately. Psikotics Necromancy mod started lair mechanics but it was abandoned. For good necromancy and lair stuff, check out Mysterious Bear's Epic Necromancy mod for Oblivion, if you haven't already. I have a video on it. It is very good. I wish something like it existed for Skyrim.
@@chebgonaz Yeah I remember that mod in Oblivion. It was perfect for Necromancers. Shame no one wants to remake it for Skyrim
Minions are weak, because you have to equip them with armors and weapons and then they become very powerful:)
Hi, is there any mod with a spell to reanimate more than one corpse at the same time?
just like The NightKING if you watched GOT.
There's a mod called The Vile Art of Necromancy which does this I think.
@@chebgonaz Found it, thanks
let's see if i can beat malacath with the first necromancy mod i ever used. and if not, then i'm getting the guns. because i already tried aswar of living people and failed.
I know why they did it, but I cant stand how in both Oblivion and Skyrim, you cant kill NPC's that the game considers essential. Though, I know there is a mod out there where you can tell the game to have every NPC be nonessential.
Yes, I didn't bother to hunt down that mod for this particular playthrough but it's usually in my list. You can't have a good massacre without it.
So you’re both a necromancer and a mech builder, able to create two types of armies, plus being a Dragonborn; Yeah nobody in Tamriel is gonna stop you
The only thing stopping you is that awful crash that inevitably occurs and yeets you back to the desktop
@@chebgonaz Every damn time
Am I doing something wrong every time I try to bring back out my stored dead it's well dead even though it was alive when I stored it in the first place then I have to cast undead thrall on it to bring it back to life which wastes one of my souls, please help
I wish I could help you but I'm not sure either. Did you try asking on the mod's page?
same issue even with the marked ones... whenever i banish and resummon marked thralls which were alive,spawns allready dead like dead dead licking the floor.i have to reanimate them again n again with undead thrall option every time i resummon them..this is stupid as fck..its not easy to get black soul gems. lol. i gifted my horseman a whole enchanted armor to keep him safe... he was alive and performing well until i banish n respawned him.
Don't care how late I am on this comment
The keeper is a DLC enemy normally you only get to see them three times near the end of both sides to the quest line
😅
( DLC ) (Dawn gard)
✴️
on a side-note most of the vampire mods required dawn gard dlc
I'm sorry - I don't know what you're talking about. Anime in Dawn Star?
@@chebgonaz sorry about that I despise autocorrect because it keeps changing everything I still have not found a way to disable autocorrect 😕 I have fixed the original comment
seriously though has this ever happened to you
@@codeexze3713 Ahh now I understand. And yes, autocorrect is always ruining my sentences too hahaha. I turned it off recently
@@chebgonaz with that done
I just realized that I have made a 7-foot mistake for not telling you that the keeper cannot be summoned without mods it is like a boss there are three of them they are unable to be summoned base dlc game
@@codeexze3713 thank you for the info
Im using this mod in my most recent playthrough, and im pretty happy with it though turning Skeevers into Giants is too immersion breaking for me so i dont use that feature.
As for the Spectral Thrall, from my understanding you have to "promote" an undead you control to fill those slots.
also, use demote to get rid of your spare corpses being summoned by Summon Undead. Its the same as Dispose except faster and does it the next time you raise a minion instead of instantly.
@@baval5 Thanks for the info. Is there any reaosn to have stored undead? Can they be revived again or something?
@@chebgonaz with The Dark Arts any undead can be revived again, he disabled ash piles, so you can use the menu to cast Undead Thrall for only 1 soul to revive your undead
@@baval5 Ohh I see. Thanks for explaining that.
@@chebgonaz no problem, also I was wrong about Spectral Thralls, filling those slots is actually done by using Soul Bind on a reanimated Thrall, and then from then on you can summon ghostly copies of that undead with Spectral Thrall
My book won’t appear in my inventory I’ve started 13 new games deleting different mods and nothing is fixing this issue is alternate start the problem
Hi, sorry to hear that. That's frustrating. The most likely problem is that the mod is somehow incorrectly installed. I recommend you double check the install instructions and make sure everything is correct and if it's not that, you probably need to ask the mod maker themselves. Good luck
How do I store?
5:25 damn straight, let's see a thief try to take the braiar heart now.
lol xD thief proof
@@chebgonaz precisely!
guys, what is the name of the mod that allows you to make dwemer mechanisms? Can you leave a link please
Perkus Maximus lets you do it. I got a video on that too
@@chebgonaz thanks man :3
The mod needs more commands and im a xbox guy and tried follower mods but none effect thralls of this mod
Maybe you can ask the creator, good luck
@@chebgonazok sorry i thought you was the creator he got a YT channel?
I didn't have the grimoire when i spawned
I don't remember anymore how the mod works. You'll have to consult the mod page
@@chebgonaz Ok, nice video btw
@@Bewew1 Thanks
You found it? How to get the grimoire?
@@isaac_faz6853The book should appear in your apparel menu after u reanimate something for the first time. At least it did for me
Morrowind dopey necromancy next?
Soon... Very soon... Sooner than you think!
Does playstation 4 have this mod?
I think so, but I do not know how mods on Playstation 4 work or where you get them from.
tips on geting Black souls gems?
ooh, no idea sorry. But the mod description is very good & full of details. Read that
@@chebgonaz Yeah thank you haha, and btw I am sure this was some time ago since you played the mod but did you ever have a problem where your minions didnt attack? For me atm seems to only block not sure why? :o
@@geraltgrey-mane695 hmm, I don't think I had that issue. But it's been so long I don't remember. If I had encountered that, I'd have mentioned it in the video though, so I guess I didn't
how you get soul??
you need to start a new game to get the mod to work?
not sure, probably. I think it's always a good idea to start a fresh game when using new mods like this (eg. non-cosmetic). You're asking for crashes otherwise
pity that there is no real tutorial to the mod... here it is also not explained from the beginning but jumbled :(
I think the mod documentation is pretty comprehensive but it's a complicated mod
well personnally i have wait until very high level to create zombie of nice npc like the first companion who ide, skior something, and of course boost them while add 2 werewolf for the fun =), and since they have a spell to kind of ress them in the high level of the necromany skill well they deal nice damage =), and with recorder(a damn psycho no seriously send her in a fight you will not have to wait one minute to make her start laughing like a crazy and ask her enemy where they want her blade) and ignimo i got a good team of battle hungry npc =)
Awesome :) Glad you're havin fun
@@chebgonaz Well i have make sure that aela can't find skior in ircine afterdeath =)
but yeah honestly when a dragon land on earth he usualy die reallly fast =), will try that on the ebony warriror and the women in the quest for the altearium forg quest they could be a good bonus to my litle army =)
By the way if you want to have fun and play on pc spawn a huge number of high level enemy(i would recommand you warrior type as mag arent as funny to fight) and start a huge battle =), and well doing necromancy don't give xp so you can't pretty much be level 100 of that around level 15 if you be cautious and use a follower
but yeah a great mod malus to the fact that some feature are hard to understand how they work and they are not a perk three for necromancy added
Ugh Skyrim SE sucks. Bethesda’s stupid creation club updates screws up script extender and my mods. Every. Damn. Time. So sick of it.
Lol yeah, that's annoying. Every time I go to play it I've gotta go and update the script extender.
@@chebgonaz Yeah that would be annoying! I just dont feel like re-buying skyrim just for the special edition when I got other games coming up to enjoy like Hytale or Cyberpunk 2077
@@Mezcon2 Yeah re-purchasing it is dumb. Try waiting for like a 90% off sale or something. I think everyone who had Skyrim at all should have gotten SE for free. Sadly, you had to have Skyrim AND all its DLCs to get it for free, as far as I can remember anyway. SE does look better and also seems to be more stable than vanilla, but it's not worth full price. I think you should save your money and get new games instead.
you sound as dead as me
I am a lich, after all.