My old boss literally admitted that they do not give out raises because it makes their workers less productive. "Pay them enough to know they are starving" is what the motto was. I do not work there anymore.
My bosses used to carve up hours in ways they knew would cost the workers more and cut into time they could not sacrifice. They even tried it on high school kids part timing with us. Maddening.
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
Imagine being a fully grown man bullying someone who is just trying to find their footing in the adult world, in a time where inflation is sky high, and wages are rock bottom
Or rent/property values skyrocketing because of all the people buying investment properties to either turn them into Airbnbs or price the rent so high that it eclipses the mortgage, so that the renters are the ones paying off the property while the landlords collect the difference and minimally handle incedentals. That's why rent is now 30% of most people's paycheck on average. You're not paying rent. You're paying off someone else's mortgage and sponsoring their lifestyle. Good luck scraping up a down payment for a place of your own while the dollar gets weaker, you're not getting paid more, and the cost of everything else is rising.
@PANICBLADE I gotta push back on this a bit I’m a small time landlord, investment property always needs to pay you back. That’s the whole point of investing. It’s true a number of landlords take their profit margins too far we definitely agree there but unless you want to be forced to evict every tenant you have bc your being foreclosed on the property literally NEEDS to at least pay for ALL of the expenses it comes with meaning mortgage, utilities, maintenance, advertising, legal fees, and then you take your profit on top of that. Renters pay a premium to avoid these responsibilities out of pocket that’s why renting exists, for those that want a place to live with less responsibility or downside if you will and that’s perfectly fine. Now if we are talking about large whale investors buying up all the RESIDENTIAL properties like houses and not multiplexes or apartment and commercial buildings I think we would be in agreement that should be illegal bc it’s certainly immoral. That alone drives market prices through the roof bc these hundred billion dollar entities can easily pay 10-30k more for a house and see profit in the long term. Which forces people like you and even me to come out of pocket more. They basically buy out their competition by raising the bar too high. Hope this gave a different and useful perspective for you 🙏
How is $15-$20 an hour Rock Bottom Wages? The price of everything is getting Higher because the Wages are Getting Higher. The higher the employee hourly wage goes the more expensive the products are to compensate for the higher hourly wage. Everything has a Balance and it seems like people fail to recognize them.
It's always the people with the "weak degenerate westoid will never defeat strong manly men who endures hardship for the sake of it" and "reeee communism" takes who crawl out of the woodwork the moment someone points out this issue.
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
@@SBHKur0 but we dont have a choice. we can ofc make money some other way. but people can not just stop working either. we need workforce. that bridge can not build itself. and it depends what you want out of life. i spend most of my time watching anime and play video games. i dont enjoy adventure. so for me it doesnt matter. i take the bus 05.30 am to work. and i am hope 6 pm. but i do have 4 hours free time before bed. ( i do take 2,5 hours bus in total. i live far away from work)
it's the mentality of "well i work a soul-crushing job that barely meets my financial needs, but you don't see me bitching about it!"... just people who silently hate their lives going to town on this lady for vocally hating her life
Yes it’s the mentality of giving a spoiled child a reality check for acting like you’re bleeding out of your eyeballs all because you’re working a normal job like everyone else. Holy shit, she is pathetic. Everyone is just looking at her confused because she’s acting like she’s fighting for her life over something so unimpressive.
my parents had a talk me and my siblings, it was so depressing because the conversation boiled down to "once you hit 18 and start working, its all downhill. you will never have fun or much time to yourself, its a constant grind and it never really stops" it was crushing. it honestly made me kind of afraid to grow up and be an adult because it sounded like hell. not only is it the "I suffer, now everyone should suffer" mentality, but its also this mentality of everyone telling other people "yep, it's all downhill from here and it'll never get better" to the point that they make jokes about how miserable it is. They just accept that it's "part of being an adult". kinda like a defeatist mindset.
It is up to you to break the cycle, save and start a business. You’ll work harder than you ever worked on your 9-5, I know because that’s me rn. I make 0 dollars rn, live of my savings while working all day non stop to create the business I want to create. But it doesn’t feel like work everyday, I have so much fun doing it that I feel alive again! Work feels easy and interesting everyday. I may not make as much money as I did on my 9-5 this year or maybe even next year. But I’m out, if I wanna go hit the ski slopes tomorrow I can, no boss, no problem. I can go on a trip and no problem. The problem is the money rn but damn I feel alive!!
I think a big part of the problem is that a lot of people never really progress past a childlike mentality and fail to develop any real substantive meaning in their lives. They're essentially just living for constant consumption and pleasure in the immediate now. When you factor that in it makes a lot more sense why your standard 9-5 grind seems like the most pointless, soul crushing thing ever. What's more, a lot of the 9-5 white collar jobs these people work are essentially clown jobs that exist only because of incompetency or inefficiency, which results in the work itself feeling valueless. So not only are people not enduring work as a means to a greater purpose (supporting a family, for example), but they also aren't achieving any satisfaction from or seeing the value in the work they're doing.
@spnked9516 So, would having a personal goal such as publishing a novel would help mitigate this type of problem? If not, then those choosing a career that feels rewarding such as dental hygienist would help mitigate this problem for people?
Workers fighting amongst themselves is exactly what executives and the boards of companies want. Lash out at each other instead of the ones profiting off of everyone's labor.
@@user-zr3fw3lk4zwell ceo,s not paying themselves 10 to 25 million a year is a start and giving us livable wages. They literally pay themselves more in a year without breaking a sweat than we,ll see in a lifetime
A big problem is that despite working 40+ hours most people dont earn enough. Not even enough to leave for a 1-2 week vacation (imagine also having kids/family members to take care of as well as yourself). So much work for little pay-off. Working so you earn enough to go to work the next day.
We definitely need a revamp on the education system in a look at what people are going to college for. They're also a lot of people who have a plan that says I'm going to continue to work at McDonald's or Walmart
@davidkunkle3262 the education system is dysfunctional, but it's not the problem here. The problem is union culture has died down, and we are living the consequences of it. Without unions we wouldn't have a 40 hour work week or a ban on child labor
@@rewpertcone8243 depends on the union some unions are good some unions are absolutely dog s*** personally I don't need someone to bargain for me I can do that all by myself. I was working since I was 12 years old when I was a paper boy and cut grass then when I was 15 also got a job at Pizza Hut I'm glad s*** like that didn't exist when I was young. I said we need a revamp and how people are going to college and what they are going for because people get saddled with debt that they can't pay off for their entire life and then they have a useless degree. It's definitely more education than f****** unions.
I think it's more that she's exaggerating which is the problem these criticizers are having, I used to work a 9-5 which subtracting commute and showering eating etc etc and 8 hours of sleep still gave me 6 hours of free time a day, how is that not enough time to still enjoy life.
@@charaznable8072You don't get six hours, you literally have to cook, have dinner and all the other shit before you have your free time. And for what? To earn low enough to just survive.
@@m.j4819 Yeah I did get six hours of free time every work day but ok I guess I'm lying, 8 hours at work 8 for sleep, 2 hours for commuting cooking eating showering grooming all that nonsense, so yeah I do get 6 hours every day back then maybe 5 if I had to do some extra chores or errands, unless you are not good at managing your time every person who is without kids should be able to do this, but ok keep crying online I guess.
The bigger issue is that on some 9-5 jobs you don't even earn enough to make a decent living. Like if you told me the work is exhausting but it pays a premium and hey in a couple of years you'll be able to buy a house and and a brand new car or whathever, the grind could be somewhat justified. But if the job sucks the life out of you and you still are barely scrapping by paying rent... then what's the point, you're not living you're just surviving.
@@olblue3478 Like hell it is. I don't know a single person that does anything except for work and they get more and more unhappy year after year. Well, besides my grandparents and they are retired.
I lasted 6 months as a 9-5 secretary after college before I quit because I realized I was having constant stomach problems, suicidal thoughts, and nightmares about work.
Every job I've worked in my adult life has landed me in a psych ward because I was afraid that I would hurt myself or my employer. Last job I worked, they would lock me and 3 other guys inside the building from 9pm to 8am every night but only paid us for 8 hours on the clock at $11/hr They also expected you to show up around 45 minutes to an hour before shift started because sometimes they would close early.
@@erica653same. It sucks im not even able to enjoy my full weekend because half my saturday is trying to relax the other half is actually relaxing for 3 hours then sleeping and sunday is deal with the mental strain of having to go back to work and deal with the shit again on monday. I can only enjoy my weekend if i have a 3 day weekend now which is rare.
She was venting her frustration and basically the public went “stop complaining it is what it is continue the grind or else ur punished” like she’s saying she doesn’t mind working but she also wants to be HUMAN.
You're not wrong but on the other hand, I got by perfectly with my 9 to 5, I had plenty of time on my hand (even with the occasional additional work hours) to go out with the wife or game with my friend. And I got a kid now and even then, it is definitely manageable, less "me" time for sure, so it feels a bit more grindy at times, but It ain't bad at all, I still get to spend time with the kid every day. Maybe her commute is actually brutal and takes her 1+ hour though.
@@ScooterCat64 i dont feel so, but who knows, I mean I also don't know how the situation is in the US. Anyway, that does not change the fact that she did not deserve to be trrated like that.
It’s so sad just how many senile, miserable, complicit people will sit there, and ridicule young people who are just now being thrust into this oppressive system, that they themselves never had the courage to speak up about. It’s why shit doesn’t change.
Exactly!!! Or they say “it’s how it’s been for years why change it” it’s the people who don’t want change because they’ve found something fine with it but can’t accept that others can suffer when they might be fine with it
He forgot to mention boomers could afford nearly anything they wanted of the 40 hour work week. New generations get nothing. All while being told by boomers "that's just the way it is"
The worst part of the blatantly stupid standard 9-5 schedule is that no one can ever give a good reason for it even existing. I have a very personal example of that to share with y'all, if you don't mind my subsequent rambling. I used to work customer service representing a large corporation, but working under a smaller, dedicated Call Center company. So while I represented Big Corpo, I actually worked for Smol Corpo. Smol Corpo treated me well. They offered a 4 day/week (10 hour shifts) schedule, entirely remote. But they were based in another province (equivalent of a state in the US, I'm Canadian), and Big Corpo was based 20 minutes away from my place, so it only made sense for me if I wanted to move up the Corpo ladder eventually, that I would actually start working for Big Corpo instead, since they offered the same exact position, and were more than happy to bring me in (I'm a good employee). Here comes the big BUT, however. They ONLY offered a 5 day a week (8 hour shifts) schedule, entirely in person. And when I asked to work ny prior 4 day/week, 10h shift schedule, I was completely denied, and was never even given a reason other than "Eh, it's just the way things are. We can only offer you that option." No reason, just "fuck you", basically, even though I did the EXACT. SAME. JOB. with the previous company, on a fully remote 10h 4-day/week schedule. They wouldn't even accomodate me for a few days at home, even though we worked on LAPTOPS, and the 10 hour shift schedule fit perfectly in our opening hours for the Call Center. So I left! And I now work a 4 day/week, 10h shifts schedule, fully remote, at another company, who treats me and my coworkers with more respect. This whole BS is honestly just stupid people following other stupid people because the stupid people before them fabricated a stupid, outdated system that completely sucks the life out of you.
It's only outdated and stupid if you think it exists to benefit you in some way. It works better than any system to ever exist in all of human history for the reason it was designed: funneling wealth, power, and resources to the bourgeoise.
I’ve been realizing this around me every day lately. I just turned 18 but I’ve been doing community college and working for years already, and all of the seemingly random out of the blue shitshows I’d find myself in are starting to make sense in retrospect. It makes me think of the kind of character in a tv show or movie that feels 100% confident in bullshitting, like a Saul Goodman type-cause they’ve realized the people they’re interacting with don’t even know what they’re talking about themselves, and will sabotage your entire story if you let them take control. It’s rough out here dude, and morons speak with such confidence you’d almost fall for it.
the 9-5 was invented almost 100 years ago at this point but still somehow it sticks because of reasons. i think some of those reasons probably have to do with the employers getting in to the pockets of government.
I had a boomer tell me that she used to get paid $3 an hour and she worked her butt off for it. like congratulations Susan you have a house land and three cars. I'm working my ass off for $10 and can barely afford insurance or rent right now.
It is legitimately criminal how much effort and time some people have to put into their "job" compared to how little they get out of it. I 1000% feel for this girl. At one point I worked a job where I had to get on public transit at 5:30am and didn't get home until 7:00pm.
@@Anarcho-harambeism easy for u to say, thats why they said 'at one point'. Also I dont travel far to work so good on u for assuming👍most people dont have a choice whether they like it or not so your response is idiotic nonetheless.
@@kai1x_ good for them, they got another job, and it is within your control, there is a surplus of job openings, I've works jobs that I wish id hadn't, I've work jobs I've really enjoyed, I've had to travel 2 hours, and I've had to wake up at 0300 every morning for days on end. I've had jobs that break you mentally or physically(fuck diesel motor disassembly). It is a choice, there always is a choice and hundreds of options you don't even know about because you never look for them.
We’ve had this problem for generations: “My generation had to suffer so now yours has to too.” When are we gonna realise how fundamentally useless and backwards that thought process is and finally break the cycle?
this sounds like the cycle of hatred in naruto "Love is the reason why there is pain. When we lose someone precious to us, hate is born. Vengeance is the product of that hate and so death follows. But in death there is only more death. This will give rise to more pains. In this cursed world we live in, it is a cycle of hatred that will not cease. You and I seek the same thing that Jiraiya-sensei wanted. Let me ask you this: How will you confront this hatred in order to create peace?"
Yeah, it's holding back progress. If the people younger than you are happier than you then you'd hope that eventually their joy would make you joyful too. It's such a cruel and selfish mindset.
She is 100% right. A lot of us just work eat and sleep and feel like we don't have time for anything, plus we can't take time off because we can't afford to😢
There’s a thing called work ethic. You have to start at the bottom. That’s how it works. Recent college grads are so unrealistic. I was the same way. You have to put in work experience. You get handed things in life
Literally my experience at my fist big girl job. And then they doubled my responsibilities without a pay raise or promotion. I quit one week before my one year anniversary there. Now I work part time making more than I did back then, and have an actual work-life balance. Keep pushing it’ll get better!!
+1. Things get better if you work for it. It's the IRL experience grind. Get the skills/experience and move on. Don't sit around idling thinking things will fix themselves.
@@LivvieLynn Not really possible when the majority of jobs within 10-15 miles pays *at most* 12.50/hour. I can have all the experience I can possibly get and still get paid jack shit for said experience.
Feel ya. First job started ok, but then over time they started piling more responsabilities on, and didn't even bother to train us for those new task. "You will learn on the march" said the boss. The excuse for this was "this other department needs some extra help, so from time to time you will do their job". Then out of nowhere they told us that the other department was fired and we would the ones doing their job. I managed to get myself moved to another position that turned out to be worse because we were understaffed and when I did a good job at completing my tasks the gave me even more task. Was working 9.5 hours five days per week for a shitty salary. Soon after my first aniversary I quitted. I got a new job soon after. Work only 40 per week instead of 48 and the salary is way better. No bullshit task thrown on you out of nowhere. Just clock in, do the job you were hired for, and clock out.
My first job out of college was at Amazon and the hours were 5x worse than this girl complained about. It was absolutely miserable and they only paid $80k a year. I quit that job and found one where I can work from home and now I make $90k for only working 2/3 of the hours. Hang in there guys it will get better!
The worst part is that there are a lot of people working 10+ hours a day for most of the week, just to afford rent. And promotions add a dime to your wage. Corporations and land owners are so unbelievably greedy.
its truly saddening that after working tirelessly throughout the year lot of workers cant even afford a 2 weeks vacation, somethings needs to change asap, people living like zombies breaks my heart
Corporations, landowners, and let's not forget the government! You know, the select group of people that are supposed to have the people's best interests at heart. The select group of people that instead takes money out of our paychecks, gas, and even food, just to shove even more money into our over funded military.
Thank you for this fair take, Charlie. I feel like most people with untraditional jobs or who simply get to be home and be their own boss wouldn’t understand. My 9-5 routine is something that has been really getting me down lately. I have been working a 9-5 since 2021 and have felt completely disconnected from the rest of the world. You have to wake up at a time you dont want to wake up, drive to a place you dont want to drive to, wear clothes you dont want to wear, and spend 9-10 hours with people you dont want to spend any time with to begin with. by the time i get home, make dinner, clean the dishes, work out, and finally shower and lay on the couch its 9:30-10pm. I have no time for the things i love like video games, movies, or comic books. Its soul crushing. And heres the BIG plot twist. This is coming from somebody who LOVES their job and only has a 20 minute commute! I have NO idea how my friends who commute to the city or have all commission jobs where you dont even know if you’ll get paid that week do it. So this girl i can relate to, and I hope she finds a way to better handle this career path or have the opportunity to change it because its rough out here.
The thing is she is mostly complaining about the commute. She does say that she likes her job, but just the fact that so much of her life is dedicated to it is the problem.
It’s been an issue for decades , the thing is , humans are sheep , and Aslong as they’re doing better than the next , they’re satisfied with life , so they won’t change shit
yep 100% agree. I think part of the reason why a lot of boomers didn't think it was much of a problem back then was because they had a wife that would just cook for them during the day and do all the work and be able to just eat straight away once they get home. Then they could just relax with someone. Nowadays, some people are just stuck in a permanent loop with no one to see when they get back home
Yup. So true. Even though it is notably harder since the pandemic, the brutality of it all has been on the increase since around the late 50s to early 60s (A glorious era where even CEOs had caps)… But a massive blow was when “From Wikipedia: President Nixon canceled the 1944 Bretton Woods system that tied the US dollar to gold. So, the gold prices were fixed and the inflation rate was highly moderate. In 1971 President Nixon decided to abandon the gold standard.” Not all that long after then you have had the introduction of invisible money/money from nothing (Computer code), so as a result we are completely screwed… The overall debt for the world is roughly 12 times higher than the amount of physical money that is currently available!! We are now in an era where CEOs can easily make well over a thousand times as much as the average worker!! An era where financial corruption is truly rampant…
I just got into an argument with my dad about this a few days ago because i told him i DONT CARE about the company i work for if i died tomorrow theyd replace me in a day they dont care about me beyond am i achieving production standards and am i causing them HR issues so WHY would i care about them beyond clocking in and clocking out its a JOB if i didnt have bills i wouldnt be doing it
I’m so happy to hear this take from you. My husband works his ass off 50+ hours and I can’t get a job because even with both of our incomes we can’t afford child care and make “too much” for assistance of any sort (childcare, food, transportation, etc.). Before kids, I was military for 10 years and then on the 9-5 grind since I got out. I’m 37 and feel like a failure because we aren’t “stable” yet.
you are a awful wife and woman. You cannot find a job? No, you just cant find the job you want to do, which is one where all of your needs are met and you are well-paid on top of that too. There are plenty of freakin jobs out there, you just dont wanna do them
@@AkiyamaKatsuko this is not by design. This is what the American people want. Notice not a single person protest against this? You can't just blame everything on the government or corporations. The citizens have responsibility for their country and it's future too.
@@The_king567well then what's the point of making profit? We go to our jobs to make money to be happy, and if our work doesn't give enough time to use that money to be happy then what's the point of working?
And the blame falls almost entirely on them for it. Their greed and selfishness has backfired on them and punished future generations who have done nothing to deserve it. And when they die, those of us that actually work hard and deserve to live comfortably most likely won't because we'll be stuck cleaning up their mess.
I had this same argument with my Mom. I was telling her how my wife and I have been struggling lately and she started going on about how we could "eat less meat" and how she and dad used to be able to "get by off of $20 a week" I think she realized how stupid that was because as soon as I said "but that's not going to work in today's money" she backed off of that one. I love my Mom but she really infuriates me sometimes and is unwilling to see a problem from any perspective besides her own.
You know what would make it worth working a 9-5? If we were able to actually afford anything! Been out of college for almost 3 years and not only myself but many friends included were all still stuck living with parents because moving out and getting our own place would be financial suicide. Absolutely ZERO motivation to work if we can’t actually afford anything of our own..
He forgot to mention boomers could afford nearly anything they wanted of the 40 hour work week. New generations get nothing. All while being told by boomers "that's just the way it is"
Working at Walmart 2-11 I can sympathize with her. There's really no time to do anything. Corps have too much power; if you could be paid double but only restricted to half of your current hours, everyone would be more productive.
Working grocery is soul sucking. I work at the deli section making hot food, even tho it's not as busy as restaurants, it feels infinitely more difficult, just because you can't get any rhythm like you could at a restaurant. Too much multitasking for 1 person, and if you get 10 minutes overtime, the closing managers give you a certain look, like I just ruined their day because nobody bothers to help to close early. Oh and I spilled boiling water on my chest while being in a rush just because the coworkers are crackheads with no patience, melting the skin off and nerve damage for a week and they expect me to just shrug it off, like I'm holding them hostage.
Fellow Walmart worker here, night shift. Yeah my social life is essentially nonexistent, hell I barely got the energy to do LAUNDRY and other basic shit sometimes because I’m constantly exhausted. And even though our team gets paid the most in the store (not counting leadership and singular positions, of course) I scrape by the bills an inch. This is hell, we are in hell.
Ugh I hate swing shift 2-11. You get home late so you gotta sleep and I am not an early bird. Id have no time to do anything but go straight back to work...
Agreed! I’m ex military and had most days 10-12 hrs if not more. After I separated I took that mindset into my following jobs, but wages to live or have any free time became so exhausting and I was so burnt out at some point I ended up having a mental break and almost took my life. Now I’m still struggling trying to find a different way forward that won’t put me right back where I was. If it works for some and they’re happy with how their lives are then that’s great, but some people just want to be able to enjoy life and have a human experience. Doesn’t mean people don’t want to work just to make enough to live and enjoy the short time we have here without dedicating every waking hour to a corporation.
@@ChickenNugger922Tactical Aircraft maintenance. I spent many hours learning the ins and outs of the f-22 raptor, but they required a ton of maintenance. Most days were a min of 10 hrs, but at the worst I remember pulling 12-16hr days for about 6 months straight and that was without weekends. Ended up taking a huge toll on both my and my brother unit to the point people were actually writing the suicide hotline’s number in the dirt & grease of the weapons bays on the jets. People wonder why there’s such a high suicide rate for military members, but when people are worked like slaves and nobody cares and nothing changes sometimes it feels as if there’s no other way out. Don’t get me wrong I had good times too, but some of it was very brutal and there were very dark days for me and all my brothers and sisters around me.
As a fellow crew chief, I completely understand. I worked on F-15s on the flight line and in phase for years until an injury I suffered during a launch finally progressed to the point where I realized I couldn't reenlist. Eventually, I received word from the VA about the severity of my back injury. When I was in, I was so afraid it might look like I was trying to get out of work that I never really got my back checked out as I should have, regardless of how much it started to hurt. It turns out I was born with an extra disc in my back that, according to the VA doctor, was probably crushed like an eggshell. I continued working on jets for years after because I simply thought everyone's back was supposed to hurt after working on jets for a while. The "good work ethic" that I was praised for by my supervisors means nothing now because it damaged my body so badly that I can't work as a mechanic anymore. I'm glad I'm out, and I'll never pretend that working doesn't suck, whether it's a 16-hour shift on Christmas or an 8-hour shift on a Tuesday. sorry if this was a bit long i haven't seen another maintainer in a bit.
@@wowwowwow7139Always great to hear from a fellow crew chief! I’m sorry to hear about your back, and you’re right that was one of the biggest fears while in was talking about any pain or mental issues so you didn’t look “lazy” or “weak”. I know how slow the VA can be on almost anything, but I really hope they get you taken care of brother! It’s always crazy to hear how that “good work ethic” from military cause so many of us to push ourselves and break our bodies putting service before self, but when we get out we’re all but forgotten. Life is short and I know too many that can’t live it to the fullest anymore because of some sort of service disabilities caused from pushing themselves too hard. And it may be a hot take, but I don’t believe we’ve been in any kind of war or conflict fora long time that should be having our service members pushing themselves to the breaking point like that. But much love and respect brother and I hope you’re able to heal up and are doing well in all other aspects of life!
This reminds me of what Stalin did to his population "If they resist starve them even more until they stop resisting" and now modern work ethic will make you work more and more until you can not argue for better quality of life because you just physically and emotionally can't do it
I think we can all agree that the major problem with this is not _just_ that you have so little time for yourself, is that most people with a 9 to 5 (or basically 40+ hrs a week) job just aren't earning enough to take a good vacation or just quit and not have to worry about basic necessities. Its even worse because it used to be a rumor and secret how wage stagnation was on purpose but now they even say it live on podcasts, talks and courses, they legitimately strive to keep people barely capable of paying bills so that they can't quit for fear of homelessness and poverty.
He forgot to mention boomers could afford nearly anything they wanted of the 40 hour work week. New generations get nothing. All while being told by boomers "that's just the way it is"
You're 100% right, it's so fucked up. I think most people would be fine with working an 9-4 if they could at least pay the bills and save up to buy things that they want to enjoy their life. Back then, women weren't encouraged to work because they could just live off of a man and so that man would just come home to a meal and not spend 2 hours cooking just to go to bed immediately after.
vacation is not a right its a western privelage, noone in history had "vacations" they lived their entire life in the same place and worked most of the year, stop acting like you need a vacation, better work life balance yes, but vacation is not neccesary
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think another largely undiscussed reason why we hate 9-5 jobs so much is that our cities are so car-dependant that they compound the problems. Lots of people can spend more than an hour or an hour and a half driving to work, which is unpaid and eats directly into free time that otherwise might have made people happier. Not to mention, driving in traffic is stressful. We need more walkable cities and more train lines running in the United States. When I worked in D.C. and had to ride the MARC commuter rail down there, I had a great time just relaxing on the train and walking in the city.
"Walkable cities" and train rides just add to the commute time, unless your job is a block away from your home. And to be honest, if I had to ride public transit in most American cities with crime being as bad as it is these days, I would be even more miserable.
I can't even imagine how sad and miserable you have to be to think "I suffered, therefor everyone should have to suffer". Like, humanity could achieve anything we want. Instead, this. It's really sad
A lot of people have this disconnect between them and the world, because to them, as long as their life is good, that is all they perceive. They can't see past their own happiness, it blinds some people and causes them to lose empathy
Don't let the corporations turn you against your fellow humans, working "bad" jobs is no one's fault, they have to be filled by someone and everyone deserves time and money to live life - there's more than enough money to pay everyone for reasonable hours and reasonable work, it just gets sucked up by the billionaires, whose wealth is made of what they kept from their workers
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
My dad work 8-4 (but more like 7-5, because of commune) His company definetely under pays him, not only that he is supposed to be retired, but the company needed someone as skilled and experienceed as him because the new hires realized the pays is dogshit and leave. Not until the CEO/Leader changed that they start actually paying new hires more than old hires (granted they do have higher education). The new leadership realized they cannot afford to lose the veteran workers, so a lot of my dad's college that got hired at the same time as him, is either getting higher pays or being asked to come back from retirement on a 6-month contract long. My dad has renewed this "6 month contract" for 3 years now, lmao. He just love his job, because he don't really need money anymore. He have retirement funds and my little brother will finish university in a year or two. Everytime visited my parent home, there's definetely a new expensive stuff being bought. My point is, corporations under pays their employee. They only give them more money out of necessities.
God i am still mad at the story of my dad selling his car to so he can afford my big brother university costs. I paid half of my univeristy tuition, and never ask my parents money for extra stuff cuz i got lucky and found a online job. But just here to point out even previous generation got played by big corpo. Their lives is slightly better, yes, but they still get screwed over.
@@LordFakeGodzNo lie I was working a job in the manufacturing industry just trying to get some experience under my belt man $14 and hour but with nice bonuses so that made up for the low pay good 401k and benefits but they were doing reviews and no pay raises they only raised me up to $15.50 and I’m talking I’m sweating all day doing heavy lifting all day with mandatory PPE on over as well hot af and helping other departments but still had bonuses so it was cool and when Covid happened my supervisor didn’t come in so I had to work alone and was doing great then my supervisor got injured didn’t come in for months I did great and so I was expecting a raise to a decent amount well nah what they did was keep me at the same wage and no more bonuses meanwhile they were taking all the grants and buying new equipment and stuff so I said nah I gotta get out of here had a friend of a friend tell me about an opportunity and I put in my two weeks and had to leave man
Complaining about working 9-5 is entitled now? Everyone who works 9-5’s complains about it literally every day. I’ve been working full time for almost 20 years.
I commented on stream, but 9-5 takes away a lot from life. I had to rehome my 1 year old Rottweiler not because she was aggressive, everyone who met her would actually tell me about how well trained she was. I had to rehome her cause of my 9-5 would wake up at 7am shower and commute an hour to work on the bus and same back home. One day woke up late and had to run out to get to work and between her waiting hours for me to come back home she had an accident in her cage which led the other condo owners to complain and the HOA forcing me to rehome her. I miss my dog and can blame the fact that I didn’t let her out of her cage to the accident but I also wouldn’t have had that issue if I didn’t have to commute for so long to my 9-5 job just to live
I'm going through this. I work a 8 to 4 :30 in retail. Ive done retail for 7 years and it only seems to get worse. Between the trickling down of bs from management, lack of workers, and the classic customers deciding to treat you like shit if you dont have something they want. Its just maddening. I had to go to therapy for depression and pent up rage.
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
Wrote a paper about this for my college class. France and Japan are trying to implement only 4 day work weeks. Look it up, I think that’s a hell of a solution Edit: there is a productivity curve, look it up. The 5th day of work (Friday) is the lowest. Also 5 days creates burnout so you work less throughout the week. Productivity will take a hit but not as much as you think. Also a solution is to hire more. Companies can afford to but they are greedy. If you disagree you’re a moron NPC being used by your cooperate overlords, and you’re are a wage slave
@@taradikoff123 CEO and executives have only gotten richer and the people have only gotten poorer. You are deceived into thinking the top elite can’t fix so many issues including ones like this. The elite are so rich you can’t even comprehend it. We definitely can afford to get a day off trust me
100% agree with her. I work construction in the city so I wake up 3am take a one and a half hour train ride work till 3pm get home at like 6:00. Leaving before sunrise and getting home after sunset really feels like shit
@@olblue3478switching jobs is not a valid solution. These jobs are necessary, and even if they improve their life by switching jobs (which is way easier said than done), someone else will have to fill in that place and live the same miserable life they did. Imagine if everyone just left minimum wage or jobs with long hours and little pay to compensate, what now? We have no restaurant workers, no cashiers, no construction workers. You see the problem?
@@cat_agentreal if everyone organised to do that all the buisnesses would shut down, the elite live off people working and earning them money while they collect all of it, if you really want them to let you earn higher then stop working for them, even if it means you have to die doing it, because if they arent making any money they will soon start making compromises
I used to be a forklift operator at a construction site and recently got fired because I came back super late from running errands on my lunch break (Went to the postal office and there was a really long line). Remind you, my start time was 6am and we finished around 6pm/7pm, so by the time I got off, none of these 9-5 stores are open including the postal office which opened at 8:30 and close at 5pm like excuse me for not having time to do anything before and after work to handle business. I’m glad I was terminated because screw that place. Nobody says anything when HR’s little lapdog leaves work early everyday but god forbid I come back late from my lunch break and it’s a problem.
I work 12 hour shifts and every day I’m at work it feels like a whole lifetime before I finally clock out. Clocking out is the most relieving feeling to me
It sounds like you REALLY hate your job. Like, you are a square peg and the job is a round hole. I worked a manufacturing job for a month and it was clear I wasn't cut out for that shit. 6 hour shifts felt like 10. I hate working too, but now I'm in a job that you finish your work, you leave. So much nicer. There's a goal you're working towards every day instead of just watching the clock tick down.
It's gonna take at least a couple more generations before anything can actually changes. People are too stuck in their ways right now. Older generations almost unanimously reject anything less than a 40 hour work week even when all evidence points towards a 32 hour work week being just as, if not more productive than 40 hours. Part of it has to be that either older generations hate their families and want to be away from them as much as possible, or they have no idea what to do with themselves outside of work so they'd rather stay where they're comfortable.
It’s also just wanting people to suffer like you did. And miserable people in general. Also the Christian “virtue” of suffering is another major obstacle that needs to be overcome.
Hell, 32-36 hours a week seems more reasonable then 40+. Bump most people pay up by 25% to make up for less hours and we'll see less suicides and broken people.
Yeah, you have one day to rest and recover, a second day to do your chores/errands and then back to work. I'd rather work 10 hour shifts for 4 days than 8 hrs for 5
@@kram9863that’s what I’m currently doing , when you’re off is great , but when you’re working , you’re miserable, it’s literally your entire day gone by
@@kram9863Unfortunately, 10 hour shifts isn't really a worthwhile trade off in my opinion. Sure you get an extra day off, but you lose 2 precious hours from your evening on the work days. So it's like on those 4 days a week that you work, you're living only to work and then come home and pass out on the couch because you're too drained to do anything fun when you get home. Now I can get behind 8 hour shifts, 4-day work weeks lol
This is why I switched to a 3 day work week, where I do 12 hours each day. 36 hours with the occasional extra shift, and a very nice 4 day weekend to live and do what I want
I used to pull 4 12's in a row and have 3 days off. That was the only good part about that job. lol While I don't mind my current job and work schedule if I could figure out a way to make that 4-day work week happen again I would.
I work four 10-hour shifts and I still find my life to be a meaningless grind. The weekend goes by in a flash and the next four days are just a slog of waking up, working, showering and eating and then going to bed. It feels like my life is just passing by, and this is the best job I've ever had.
my dudes, i was working 3-11pm 5 days a week, for like 7 months out of this year. with a full time second shift job, you DONT GET A LIFE. its fucking awful. everywhere is closed, you have to go to sleep like 2-3 hours after you get home to make sure you are awake on time, then you get to leave like right away for work. i was miserable, my cats were miserable cuz i was gone all day and my roommate was also working full time. we have a busted ass system, that pretty much every other developed country mocks us for, and the people who defend this shit are the reason why. i still havent gotten a vacation yet btw, 10 months into the year while our manager has gotten 3 :D
full time second shift sucks. I'm of the thought that you only take that position under these circumstances 1. 1st / 3rd shift spots are taken 2. You're working with friends/family during that time at that place of work 3. You're single & want the shift premium to get a little more out of it. 4. You also dgaf about when you work / are insane... I've worked full time second for 2 years due to #1 before. Miserable experience half the reason is also because I am a night owl / half my friends are across the world so difficult to interact with. Wake up at 8-9am, shower/eat an hour within waking, do stuff till about 2pm but not the hours I like doing things unless it was a day off... then work 3pm - 11pm / 1am, unwind from work till 2am and then sleep. Freetime being restricted to just a certain few hours before work really sucked. Especially Dr appointments since it is hard to get those times where I lived at the time. Always cut it close to work unfortunately. Graveyard shift now of 11pm - 7am or sometimes 9pm-7am (if doing a 4 day work week) much happier for 6 years on this. 10 min commute as well is a really nice thing. (VERY lucky on this front, others I know can have 30-90 min commutes, insane) I either stay up till noon doing whatever, get the earliest appointments luckily too or just show up to stores as they open which is nice. Sleep from 12pm - 6 or 7pm, things are quieter...can still hit up some errand running before work. Or I can sleep right away from 7:15 am till 2pm roughly. Then that's 3pm - 10:15pm (I wake up slow always takes an hour to be fully awake) of free time some days to visit friends/family do favors for 'em ie babysit their kid or pets for a bit and run all my errands, and what not. Far more flexible, girlfriend happier too for increased time spent together. Granted some people did not get the concept of when I was sleeping for a while lol. 45 mins to be ready before work in case of car issues every day, always played it safe. Need time to diagnosis it and fix it myself or call for an emergency ride. Granted you can say maybe I improved time management skills, nah hasn't changed that much they are just decent maybe at best. Again a nightowl is all it is. Day shifts aren't for everyone, and neither are night or graveyard shifts. But some people end up in those hours where it just doesn't work out for them due to positions being filled up, and sometimes those positions may only be available on that specific shift or time of day. Along with the factor of operation hours. If a company only operates 16 hours of the day, (so 5am - 9pm roughly for example) Then that ...can mess with some people but work well for others of course. But again depends if they can get slotted in for the hours they'd prefer to work while still having some semblance of a life, or just get the short end of the stick and have to be an early riser for a job, when they are a slow riser or more of an afternoon/night worker. So many factors.... If they are just a dogshit worker or lazy/incompetent that's something else entirely of course too as a factor lol.
I'm a detective at a large police department, 7-3 Monday through Friday and I'm on call. But even with that my work life/ balance is amazing. And I don't have to do busy work. I could NEVER go back to the private sector work force. The amount of pointless time wasting in the private sector is awful. That's my main issue with it. 40 hours is 40 hours but when 20+ hours of that is spent doing meaningless shit, it makes it way harder.
I get called to fatal accidents and build a case against the at fault party. I also do civil work against vehicle manufacturers. Explain to me, what part of my job serves the owning class? Based on your opinion here, we align politically. You just have a small minded view of what local law enforcement does.
@@Michaelmessler You doing that is freeing up someone else to be a thug that does the violent part of your job. Like I said, every cop has an explanation as to how they're not part of the problem. This is the same logic as army mechanics pretending they're not genocidal participants in the war machine because all they do is clean wheel wells or screw bolts all day.
I think this is just an example of bad influences from social media, specifically 1) rich people punching down and people blindly following them, or 2) (as charlie mentioned) the collective distain for anyone who "has it easier" than themselves and other people blindly agreeing the long and short of it is that social media has made it too easy to blindly follow idiots, everyone online needs to be their own person rather than get validation from complete strangers and the empathy part will come back over time.
We've been talking about this recently. My health means I can't work a full 9-5 job, but I don't get how so many do! 40+hrs a week, then maintain a clean house, friendships, hobbies and maintaining self?! HOW?!
Usually it is working a fake 9-5. As in one that lets you off early or where you have a boss that cares more about efficency (usually they even have to cover to keep it that way) rather than torturous timeframes. Basically it is a leadership problem.
Considering how much longer commutes are now compared to how long they were on average for the prior generation, it's about time for the law to catch up and mandate that commuting time be either considered as working hours or be paid in extra time.
My misery is from 22:00 to 6:30 with 40 minutes to get there and 40 minutes back :/. Not a lots of free time to do anything either, but I am tired to do anything anyway.
Very much agree. I’m a lawyer and used to work for a Big 4 accounting firm in NYC. I lived in Brooklyn and my office was in Midtown Manhattan, so my commute was 50-55 minutes door-to-door each way. I would leave home around 7:15am and often wouldn’t get home until between 7:30-8pm. I literally had a nervous breakdown and had to take medical leave. It’s so counterproductive. The work-life balance I was forced to live to be “productive” for the firm resulted in my absence for a month. After 7 years working for these NYC firms that don’t give a damn about the mental health of their employees I’m just done. It’s a risk, but I’m quitting law and pursuing a career as a content creator because I simply refuse to spend the rest of my life not living.
thats nice but content creator isn't a real job, soon our society will realise we have a lack of jobs bc everyone wants to be a content creator and then we will see the real decline of soceity, not saying you are wrong but this mentality is not sustainable in the long term for society
People also have other duties like housekeeping on top. Back in the day in a couple, one person could work and the other took care of everything else. Today more people don't find a partner and even if they do often times both have to work to afford everything. But the worst part is that in many professions 9 to 5 with 40 hour weeks doesn't even make sense from a productivity standpoint. Many tests of a 4 day work week or 6 hour work day with same pay often yield productivity INCREASES in the long term.
very true. i worked 9 hour shifts at walmart full time, nearly $20 an hour and even if i found a cheap studio apartment theres no way i would be able to survive by myself. let alone being so exhausted i spend the entire weekend resting and not doing other productive/ enjoyable activities. couldn’t even imagine having children
I friend of mine has a 45min commute to and from work. They’re a teacher, so their working week can be from anywhere between 38-50hrs. He gives up his Saturday mornings to tutor his senior students so that they have the best chance to succeed in their schooling. He also volunteers for his local fire brigade so some days he can end up on the fire line for hours protecting peoples properties. He’s a martial arts instructor and teaches twice a week. All of this has culminated in a huge decline of his mental state and he’s had to make the decision to close his martial arts class to free up some time. Her concerns are very real. I only work 30hrs a week and teach a class myself twice a week and fine it hard to find free time myself.
And then some of these ghouls will be like "well, unless you work 80+ hours a week and walk to work up a hill both ways in the middle of a volcanic eruption and alien invasion, don't you dare complain about anything because you don't know what *real* suffering is."
Dude as someone who'd worked a 9-5 Monday through Friday before .. Not including the hour and a half commute each way which made my days 7-7 all I wanted once home was food, shower, and sleep. Maybe get a half hour show in during food and before comatosing
i worked no joke 16 hr days. would commute about a hour and some change to my work and arrive at 10AM, then work there all day and night until 2-3 AM on some more brutal nights we would stay until 4 AM. we would then drive back an hour to our homes and sleep for around 6 hours. id come home drenched in sweat and play CSGO for a couple hours sometimes with my coworkers. take a shower n repeat. though sometimes my family was concerned for my well being.
"Oh no you have to work" Lemme rephrase for the guy. "Oh no you have to exhaust yourself, deprive yourself of what makes humans human, and still barely make enough money to survive, with no money for big emergencies." It really looks like its time to start pushing back against this shit, hard. I work 8 - 9 hours in a part of the building that has 0 insulation, so its hot as hell in the summer and cold as shit in the winter. I literally have to wear 2 thermals and a jacket just to keep myself from getting sick in november through february. I make almost twice the minimum wage where I live, and still could barely afford rent. Not even going to touch on the hell my friend has to go through working 12 hours a day 6 days a week in a warehouse with no AC in Texas just to have about $100 for food per check and nothing else after bills are paid. This isn't okay by any stretch of the imagination.
That's your situation though. It seems like that chick was probably working retail or some easy job and still crying about working 9-5. There's nothing wrong with working an 8 hour shift, that shouldn't be the issue here. The real issue is, as you mentioned, busting ass for 8 hours and barely getting by. That needs to change, the cost of living needs to go down to appropriately match minimum wage. Because right now, even nearly double minimum isn't enough. Taxes really needs to drop or go away entirely.
@@Somedude72 Easier than wearing a full bunny suit in a manufacturing fab for 10 hours a day, no doubt. Just put on thick skin for the karens, and if the place has a sufficient training system you should have no issues.
@@BlueOvals24how the fuck do you know that? The point isn’t the fact the job is hard, the point is that 9-5 jobs, regardless of their “difficulty” steal so much of our time from us and soul crushing
@@Somedude72Do not tell me you work retail if you still think it’s breaking your back, you’re literally working the easiest job in the world being payed to work less and sit behind a counter and you’re gonna tell us you’re suffering.
A lot of people including myself just decide sleep is less important and reduce it to like 4 hours a night just to have so sort of life outside of work.
I've dedicated my life slaving away for nothing. All my money goes to landlords and food it's been 10 years of this. It feels hopeless. Idk what to do. If I walk from these shit jobs, I'll be homeless. I feel like this is the norm now too. Everyone is just paycheck to paycheck.
@@FBZOMBlES cmon man really? between rent, food, bills and car, there's no way to survive. most people are lucky to pull 2.5 grand a month. rent for a bachelor in my city is 1400 a month. add phone, internet, car payments, insurance, gas and food and you're lucky to have enough. and thats in a bachelor with hydro and other bills included. how much you making a month?
Here in mexico i get shat on because i dont want to have another job. I already work mon-fri and one full saturday every 2 but i still get "youre wasting your best years to stack on money".
I definitely feel this and feel a lot of empathy for her. I started working full-time two years ago, and it's been the most difficult thing ever to try to adjust to. I thought maybe there was just something wrong with me, but it took me this long to realize it's not me, it's the fact that we work way more than we need to/should. My job is also very mentally taxing and it is impossible to be productive from 9-5 mon-fri without burning out (despite this, my boss only gives one 30 minute break and doesn't seem to believe in coffee breaks or anything like that.) After work it's easy for errands to fill the rest of my time. I want to start my own business, but just the weekends isn't enough time, especially when I often have errands to run on weekends as well, and then it means having to choose between being able to socialize or work on my business. Even just having one less workday would be a world of difference.
Thats why trading time directly for money is just a terrible deal. Passive income is the main thing you gotta aquire and it grants so much freedom and its easier said than done obv lol. Like legit 1500 a month maybe. Ppl buy into this college bs we have been sold and wonder why they are unhappy. They dont arm you with the expierence you need in college to really flourish financially, they only give you a few fancy tickets to get into some specific doors and maybe introduce you to someone important. Buisness and finance is taught in the field not the classroom.
@@jackdavey4286 he means "if you cant beat em, join em: scam innocent ppl out of their money, or get lucky/know rich people" if you become part of the problem of greed overpowering ones empathy that is making the world a shitty place, you can be wealthy if youre lucky, at the cost of your soul.
I work at a grocery store, but I work 8-4 full time. I get home at 4:15. They treat me with so much respect that it is hard to find an office job because of how bad office culture is. I see it from how my boyfriend works, he works in tech and he has to commute an hour. His day is spent commuting and working, it’s depressing overall. There isn’t even a promise for a raise or a promotion, more than likely laid off because they see you as a number and not a HUMAN! I agree with her so much
8 hour work day, 1 hour lunch, 3 hour round trip commute. Then 1 hour of cooking, 1 hour of eating with a tv show, 1 hour of chores, and 8 hours of sleep. That leaves me with 1 single hour a day for gaming with friends, having a call with family, personal projects, working out, and trying to relax and recover enough for the next day. Meanwhile i just bought a house because i was tired of my landlord's bs, but the house needs so much freaking work done on it, and my parents are constantly pressuring me to have kids. And im supposed to just shut up, roll over, and not want things to change? I asked my boss if i could work from home because the commute was killing me and you know what she said? "Well, when I started here I would have to drive 2 hours to work and 2 hours back. We hired you to be in office, so you will be in office" meanwhile my team almost all work from home every day so im just sitting by myself. I cant just leave. This job took a year to find and i need to make enough to pay off my house and student loans.
Im 21 and still living at home. I’ve damn near buried myself in student debt, working a 9-5 and not even turning a profit bc I spend most of my paychecks on my coping mechanisms (weed, alcohol). This shit can genuinely be soul crushing to waste away years of your life like this
Bro you're 21 that is very normal to be living at your parents but yes owning a home in the future might feel like a distance dream for the new generation
This sounds more like self sabotage than anything else. You recklessly took out loans and are lamenting with substance abuse wondering why things aren’t great.
also, its extremely soul crushing when during that 9 to 5, your not doing the work that you want to be doing. For me personally, if I was doing the work that I enjoyed most, I wouldnt mind working 10-12hrs a day as long as I have enough time to eat sleep and exercise. But when your doing something you hate, its very hard to find any energy left to do the things that you need/want to do in order to get to that point
Yea that’s why I think having passions/interests is important but even then when you’re really passionate about something and do find a job that aligns with said passion it can quickly become something you no longer love doing because of the work.
i’ve thought about this a lot. if your job is from 9-5, you’ll likely wake up around 6:00 - 7:00 am depending on how far your job is, you shower, eat breakfast, and get ready for your job which will take about one to two hours, closer to 1.5 hours, you might have about 30 mins to an hour to chill before work or check emails. then you get home any time between like 5:30 and 7:00 then you just wanna relax, possibly shower, eat, then get some rest. if your 9-5 isn’t what you wanna do for the rest of your life, chances are you won’t be happy or have time to do what you really love
Boohoo, factory workers work 10-12 hour shifts. That means that before you even leave the building, you have less than 12 hours before you have to be back in it! And don't forget truckers who drive for 14 hours a day, and don't come back home for 2+ weeks, only to have 2 days off and have to get back out there right after. Having had all 3 of these different shifts, I can say the 9-5 is the best because you still have time to unwind each day unless you chose to work 10+ miles away from home.
@BlueOvals24 it's possible to have worked 12 hour days and still have empathy for other people struggling, lol. Used to work a lot of 11 hour/day, 6 days/week. Now I work 8.5 hour days, 5 days a week. Both suck. Both left me feeling like I have no time/energy for hobbies or things that make me happy. Its like saying someone can't complain about being on fire because *you* stepped in lava. Cool. That might suck more, but the first thing still sucks.
@@BlueOvals24 It could be my misconception but don't truckers make a good salary? And isn't that the point about the commute? if companies paid a wage that allowed their workers to live within a reasonable distance, they wouldn't need to spend so much time commuting. The town I live in is probably an hour and a half from SF but people commute there everyday for work because they can't afford to live closer
@@BlueOvals24yeah but you're overlooking the fact that the jobs you mentioned pay well enough to enjoy your life outside of work. Most of us are barely making enough to even pretend like we can afford to exist. I haven't even thought about spending money on myself for fun because I can barely get enough money together to spend it on Necessities even though I work 50 to 60 hours a week. I really hope this mentality dies out with your generation, won't be long.
@@noodlesofoodles Truckers make a livable salary. And since they're barely at home, they can get away with having a cheap place to live and a cheap car. But that comes at the cost of not being able to see friends or family, or do anything enjoyable for 2 weeks minimum. 1 week for regional drivers, but there's usually less money in that. On top of that, they deal with rude customers/shippers, potentially rude dispatchers, and of course, car drivers that just can't stand being behind a semi, so they cut them off. I guess it varies depending where you are. I live in a city with a booming semiconductor industry. And only after covid has it been really hard to afford living here. Prior to covid, one could rent a 2 bedroom apartment for 1000-$1200. Now a janky 2 bedroom apartment is 1400 minimum, 1800 if you want something "decent". And 2 bedroom houses for rent almost don't exist, the ones that do are usually $2000 minimum. Obviously SF, among many other places in CA, have always had a higher cost of living compared to most states in the Southwest and Midwest, but now days it feels like cheap living only exists in places with almost no employment nearby.
Facts!!! Just go at your own pace. If you're stressed out and broke anyway then you might as well do college and working at the pace that works for you. We all broke and stressed anyway
And dont be afraid to QUIT for your mental health. None of these jobs are worth the stress and they come a dime a dozen with the little bit they offer us. Dont let them (or anyone else) guilt you into staying in a situation that makes you so miserable
i work 12 hours a day at a furniture store, with an hour of commute , 7 days a week. i leave home at 9am and reach back home at 10pm. im this close to sudoku or going full blown sociopath. it's been months since i had a meaningful conversation with a friend. only conversations i have are with customers who i'm trying to sell shit to. it's been months since i had fun. it's been months since i sat down and made music. im usually the friend everyone vents to. and im happy to help but lately, i volantarily ignore vents. because i know one more and im gonna break. this lifestyle is soul crushing. i hope she finds a job where she doesnt have to spend her whole day working.
Saddest thing was getting my new full time job (10 hour shifts 4 days a week) and one of the first things i was asked by several coworkers is if im working part time somewhere else, so far the job itself has been good and pays well but its sad that its still barely enough to pay bills and even while being above minimum wage it would not support a family.
I have always hated how predatory the working economy actually is, and somehow the world doesnt care. There are millions of people working almost everyday to the bone, making minimum wage or slightly more, barely able to feed themself or live comfartably and that for their entire life. Only to one day be so broken down mentally and phisically from work that they cant even enjoy their rent. Its honestly disgusting. And the worst part? People dont care, i have seen so many people be broken down by this disgusting system only for them to spew the same ignorant garbage that their parents before told them "You need to work until you are old, otherwise you will never survive, and your children wont life comfartably". Everyone hates it, everyone is hurt by it, yet no one tries to change it. I always said that the current form of the working economy is simply a modern form of slavery, for everyone making a low salary.
It's hard to explain to some people that just because you've been doing something for a long time that doesn't mean it's right/better/good, that applies for people who say that no one should ever say/complain that "9-5 is bad" because they've been working for longer than the person who wants to complain has.
It's a bunch of babies who think everything should be easy and free. I feel much worse for grocery store employees whoa are full time. Imagine working 40 plus hours at random times throughout the day, and working every weekend and holiday.
It's just so noormallized to the point where work is people's entire personality sometimes and they don't really understand that work shouldn't be your entire life or that other people just don't want that.
I work a 40hr week office job but with 2 days remote, which makes things so much better. I’m in the office 8-4:30 Wed-Fri but Mon and Tues I work from home 7-3:30. The fact that I can just wake up, brush my teeth and clock in makes so much difference, on top of closing my laptop at 3:30, stuffing it out of sight into my backpack, and getting right onto whatever I feel like.
I work a third shift and It’s difficult because even on my days off everyone else is asleep when I’m awake. It’s definitely sad to feel like I have no time
That's the thing, work doesn't stop at just work. All the time around work is spent preparing or relaxing from work. I'd rather work a job that gives me 3 days off and barely pays anything, than one that pays more with only one or two days. My days off are spent developing skills and growing as a person and I'm extremely thankful for that.
I think it’s a generational understanding problem. A lot of the older generations were born into eras with less technology, so naturally, more work. And that was normal. Now the younger generation sees that technology makes jobs easier, but the cost of living is much higher. I work a 9-5 job that I love, but I barely make enough money to provide for myself and time to socialize. It’d just be nice to be paid a livable wage. Especially in a corporate America where everything revolves around shareholders and helping the rich get richer lol It’s a tough position that I don’t know the solution for other than increasing pay without increasing the cost to live.
it's easy to say "kids these days are just lazy and don't want to work!" when working in your generation guaranteed food and shelter for you and your 5-unit family. the cost of living, partnered with inflation, etc., made everything else much more harder to achieve
@@gin-lf9yeexactly why you must formulate a plan and cannot just follow the beaten path nowadays. Bend the law. Lie, steal whatever. Its gotten far too expensive to care about morality in this current day.
@@cbaileychamp I like how people talk about treating people as humans and you are here like "fck everyone else, be selfish". I think thats the exact mentality that got the world into this situation in the first place.
the only way to fix life/humanity not having perfect empathy is to eliminate the threat of universal oblivion, or at the very least personal oblivion. basically we need to create AGI and the singularity and make it immortal, then follow its lead.
I’m lucky to have an 8-5 job, 5 minutes away from home, make decent money for work that isn’t that hard, and am still able to do the things I like to do. I sympathize with people like her
With the pandemic we all learned that commuting is r3tarded. But now, for some reason they don't think it's r3tarded anymore. I feel like most wealthy people started feeling empty while driving through the city on their stupid SUVs and having no massive amounts of poor people to look down on to make them feel good about themselves, and next thing you know, every company is again asking you to leave your house, be stuck in traffic for hours, just to get inside a building and then proceed to sit on a desk and work with a computer for hours on end. Like who cares if you could do it from the comfort of your home right? If you're not suffering while working, then it's like the work you don isn't valid lol
@@tomcruiiseship946110 hours for a standard work week. I was on a 4 day schedule for a year and it was fantastic. An extra free day is worth the 2 fewer hours on work days for me.
@@tomcruiiseship9461 I would rather work two 24 hour days and have five days off. Don't care if its exhausting if I only work two days a week. Less days I have to go to work.
I've done a 9-5 (for me it's 4am-12pm) for 8 years. Thankfully it's only 4 days a week. I dread the day I'll have to be in dept from college and have no time to live. Is it even worth it? I don't want to live like that, but that's how it is. It makes me want to give up
This was what I was gonna say to play devils advocate. You can spend some time to find a job that suits a better schedule for yourself example on that: one that let’s you work from home or one that is 4 days a week or a mix. I feel like we do have a better choice between jobs but I still get the complaints. Currently working 4 days at an accounting firm and 3 days at a normal job to make extra cash to save, and then also have online classes.
@BlueOvals24 I don't understand why everyone feels forced to go to college just because what family recommends it? College is not for everyone same like the military or becoming a cop there are so many options out there for jobs even jobs they train you themselves no degree needed so
@RemixedYoshi Exactly. People have it in their heads that college will open so many doors to them, and will do so right away. Sure, it does open more possibilities, but you still have to work your way up. But you have to know exactly what you want to do with that education, otherwise it can waste multiple years of your life and put you into debt equivalent to that of a nice car.
@@BlueOvals24precisely. College will open up more opportunities, but you need to know what you want to do, which is why it is ridiculous that 18 year olds are expected to make that decision so early and are given the ability to get eyeballs deep in debt. I always try to encourage community college first if you aren’t sure to at least knock the gen eds out and save some cash. Community colleges in my area have very generous financial aid, good education quality, and plenty of internship opportunities for experience. At best, you saved some cash, got a scholarship and transferred credits for your next school, or you ended up in a place where an associates and experience is plenty to get in the door. At worst, you explored a bit and didn’t break the bank. The only issue is that too many people still have a negative view of community college. Their loss though. Leaves more opportunities for those that do go
My last job was 8-5 (occasionally 7-5) salaried. I'd get hell if i ever had to take even an hour off for anything. I had "infinite" PTO which amounts to effectively no PTO without it threatening your job. It annihilated me not to mention annoyed me as my boss constantly went on about this generation's work ethic when he left 3 hours early every day.
I worked for a company that was hybrid and we only came in to the office once a week. The days that we were at home were awesome. Everyone got all their work done. This past year they made everyone come back to the office full time. I have at least 2 hours less per work day for my personal life due to commuting and having to have breakfast ready/shower before work. Obviously that’s 10 less hours a week to myself. It’s kinda crazy how different working from home felt vs how I never feel like I have enough time now. Shit sucks. And honestly I’ve got it wayyyyyyy easier than a lot of people. I very rarely work OT. my commute is a lot shorter than other people I work with and STILL since coming back to the office I feel like I have zero free time during the week.
Sadly, everybody has adopted the idea that “If I’m suffering, everyone else should be suffering too.” Instead of sympathizing with her plight, people are admonishing her for rightfully complaining about the arduous grind of non-fulfilling work.
In Switzerland you start a 9 to 5 with the age of 15 as an apprentice earning cuple hundred of dollars. While going to school 1 or 2 days a week. The first year was realy hard for me adjusting to not having that much time and being exhausted from coming home late and then having to sit down and study for a couple of hours. Now i have it all figured out and have time for meeting friends and studing. You need to have good time managment to be able to live your life. That being said i do agree with Charlie and have to say that in countrys like america and switzerland work shouldnt demand that much from you. I was able to work in germany for 1 month 7 hours a day. And i have to say it was a massive diffrence, i was able to still enjoy the day and do something.
My old boss literally admitted that they do not give out raises because it makes their workers less productive. "Pay them enough to know they are starving" is what the motto was. I do not work there anymore.
My bosses used to carve up hours in ways they knew would cost the workers more and cut into time they could not sacrifice. They even tried it on high school kids part timing with us. Maddening.
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
Apple Retail does that allegedly my lawyer would like me to say. @@billbill6094
That’s why I’m union
same@@albeon81
It's amazing how many people would rather let everyone suffer instead of work together to prevent suffering
all cause of their egos and self image too. pretty sad
It's called marriage. Maybe people should stop stepping out on them while promoting the single life.
@@RSpectORcheckIT What does marriage have to do with having a healthy work/life balance?
@@spikes_johnson teamwork makes the dream work?
@@RSpectORcheckITbro is onto nothing
Imagine being a fully grown man bullying someone who is just trying to find their footing in the adult world, in a time where inflation is sky high, and wages are rock bottom
Don't forget student loan debt and hard to find employment.
Or rent/property values skyrocketing because of all the people buying investment properties to either turn them into Airbnbs or price the rent so high that it eclipses the mortgage, so that the renters are the ones paying off the property while the landlords collect the difference and minimally handle incedentals. That's why rent is now 30% of most people's paycheck on average. You're not paying rent. You're paying off someone else's mortgage and sponsoring their lifestyle. Good luck scraping up a down payment for a place of your own while the dollar gets weaker, you're not getting paid more, and the cost of everything else is rising.
@PANICBLADE I gotta push back on this a bit I’m a small time landlord, investment property always needs to pay you back. That’s the whole point of investing. It’s true a number of landlords take their profit margins too far we definitely agree there but unless you want to be forced to evict every tenant you have bc your being foreclosed on the property literally NEEDS to at least pay for ALL of the expenses it comes with meaning mortgage, utilities, maintenance, advertising, legal fees, and then you take your profit on top of that. Renters pay a premium to avoid these responsibilities out of pocket that’s why renting exists, for those that want a place to live with less responsibility or downside if you will and that’s perfectly fine. Now if we are talking about large whale investors buying up all the RESIDENTIAL properties like houses and not multiplexes or apartment and commercial buildings I think we would be in agreement that should be illegal bc it’s certainly immoral. That alone drives market prices through the roof bc these hundred billion dollar entities can easily pay 10-30k more for a house and see profit in the long term. Which forces people like you and even me to come out of pocket more. They basically buy out their competition by raising the bar too high. Hope this gave a different and useful perspective for you 🙏
How is $15-$20 an hour Rock Bottom Wages? The price of everything is getting Higher because the Wages are Getting Higher. The higher the employee hourly wage goes the more expensive the products are to compensate for the higher hourly wage. Everything has a Balance and it seems like people fail to recognize them.
@@HawaiianTyphoonStudioZ15 is fucking nothing dude
American work ethic is awful because employer ethic is even worse. This lady is just being hated by bitter people.
It's always the people with the "weak degenerate westoid will never defeat strong manly men who endures hardship for the sake of it" and "reeee communism" takes who crawl out of the woodwork the moment someone points out this issue.
America this america that go yourself deluded child
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
@@gamer4ever838when all your life is, is work, you can’t so shit else. I hardly have time for my own kids due to this crap
@@SBHKur0 but we dont have a choice. we can ofc make money some other way. but people can not just stop working either. we need workforce. that bridge can not build itself. and it depends what you want out of life. i spend most of my time watching anime and play video games. i dont enjoy adventure. so for me it doesnt matter. i take the bus 05.30 am to work. and i am hope 6 pm. but i do have 4 hours free time before bed. ( i do take 2,5 hours bus in total. i live far away from work)
it's the mentality of "well i work a soul-crushing job that barely meets my financial needs, but you don't see me bitching about it!"... just people who silently hate their lives going to town on this lady for vocally hating her life
Yes it’s the mentality of giving a spoiled child a reality check for acting like you’re bleeding out of your eyeballs all because you’re working a normal job like everyone else. Holy shit, she is pathetic. Everyone is just looking at her confused because she’s acting like she’s fighting for her life over something so unimpressive.
Yep, just people in denial projecting hate on a woman stating only what they already know to be true.
Yup the matrix fighting back, regular people like you and me defending the slave driver boss because they simply obey rinse repeat
@@baddonkey75 i completely agree with you i just couldn't help but cringe at that stupid ass "matrix" bullshit lol
@@itzshiori7403 I even hate saying it cause of Tate. They take all of the good shit and turn it on it's head haha
my parents had a talk me and my siblings, it was so depressing because the conversation boiled down to "once you hit 18 and start working, its all downhill. you will never have fun or much time to yourself, its a constant grind and it never really stops" it was crushing. it honestly made me kind of afraid to grow up and be an adult because it sounded like hell.
not only is it the "I suffer, now everyone should suffer" mentality, but its also this mentality of everyone telling other people "yep, it's all downhill from here and it'll never get better" to the point that they make jokes about how miserable it is. They just accept that it's "part of being an adult". kinda like a defeatist mindset.
Agreed, but it doesn't have to be like that. I do feel like their situation can change even a little bit if they can change their mindset.
It is up to you to break the cycle, save and start a business. You’ll work harder than you ever worked on your 9-5, I know because that’s me rn. I make 0 dollars rn, live of my savings while working all day non stop to create the business I want to create. But it doesn’t feel like work everyday, I have so much fun doing it that I feel alive again! Work feels easy and interesting everyday. I may not make as much money as I did on my 9-5 this year or maybe even next year. But I’m out, if I wanna go hit the ski slopes tomorrow I can, no boss, no problem. I can go on a trip and no problem. The problem is the money rn but damn I feel alive!!
I think a big part of the problem is that a lot of people never really progress past a childlike mentality and fail to develop any real substantive meaning in their lives. They're essentially just living for constant consumption and pleasure in the immediate now. When you factor that in it makes a lot more sense why your standard 9-5 grind seems like the most pointless, soul crushing thing ever.
What's more, a lot of the 9-5 white collar jobs these people work are essentially clown jobs that exist only because of incompetency or inefficiency, which results in the work itself feeling valueless. So not only are people not enduring work as a means to a greater purpose (supporting a family, for example), but they also aren't achieving any satisfaction from or seeing the value in the work they're doing.
@spnked9516 So, would having a personal goal such as publishing a novel would help mitigate this type of problem? If not, then those choosing a career that feels rewarding such as dental hygienist would help mitigate this problem for people?
Having a victim mentality gets no where in life.
You aren’t guaranteed shit in life. Work for it.
Workers fighting amongst themselves is exactly what executives and the boards of companies want. Lash out at each other instead of the ones profiting off of everyone's labor.
divide and conquer, thats the oldest tactic in the world of ruling the masses
So what's the solution bud
@@user-zr3fw3lk4zhe literally explains it in the video how bout you come up with solutions
@@user-zr3fw3lk4zwell ceo,s not paying themselves 10 to 25 million a year is a start and giving us livable wages. They literally pay themselves more in a year without breaking a sweat than we,ll see in a lifetime
Pay everyone more and restrict long working hours@@user-zr3fw3lk4z
A big problem is that despite working 40+ hours most people dont earn enough. Not even enough to leave for a 1-2 week vacation (imagine also having kids/family members to take care of as well as yourself). So much work for little pay-off. Working so you earn enough to go to work the next day.
zom100
We definitely need a revamp on the education system in a look at what people are going to college for. They're also a lot of people who have a plan that says I'm going to continue to work at McDonald's or Walmart
@davidkunkle3262 the education system is dysfunctional, but it's not the problem here. The problem is union culture has died down, and we are living the consequences of it. Without unions we wouldn't have a 40 hour work week or a ban on child labor
It's almost as if we funneled all the money to the top in (naive) hopes that it would be shared, or move downwards, kind of like water...hmmmm
@@rewpertcone8243 depends on the union some unions are good some unions are absolutely dog s*** personally I don't need someone to bargain for me I can do that all by myself. I was working since I was 12 years old when I was a paper boy and cut grass then when I was 15 also got a job at Pizza Hut I'm glad s*** like that didn't exist when I was young. I said we need a revamp and how people are going to college and what they are going for because people get saddled with debt that they can't pay off for their entire life and then they have a useless degree. It's definitely more education than f****** unions.
All the slaves shaming you for not wanting to be a slave
I think it's more that she's exaggerating which is the problem these criticizers are having, I used to work a 9-5 which subtracting commute and showering eating etc etc and 8 hours of sleep still gave me 6 hours of free time a day, how is that not enough time to still enjoy life.
@@charaznable8072 depending on what you do those 6 hours will mean nothing because you will be absolutely DRAINED of any energy at all.
Crabs In A Bucket mentality
@@charaznable8072You don't get six hours, you literally have to cook, have dinner and all the other shit before you have your free time. And for what? To earn low enough to just survive.
@@m.j4819 Yeah I did get six hours of free time every work day but ok I guess I'm lying, 8 hours at work 8 for sleep, 2 hours for commuting cooking eating showering grooming all that nonsense, so yeah I do get 6 hours every day back then maybe 5 if I had to do some extra chores or errands, unless you are not good at managing your time every person who is without kids should be able to do this, but ok keep crying online I guess.
The bigger issue is that on some 9-5 jobs you don't even earn enough to make a decent living. Like if you told me the work is exhausting but it pays a premium and hey in a couple of years you'll be able to buy a house and and a brand new car or whathever, the grind could be somewhat justified. But if the job sucks the life out of you and you still are barely scrapping by paying rent... then what's the point, you're not living you're just surviving.
Just the new America after the scamdemic
if youre even surviving with the cost of health insurance and the physical and mental tolls of such an existence
Living in NYC be like:
Like in SF be like. People are drowning out there
@@Tom-qq7ov I mean it's all of the US, this place is miserable
People don't want to realize the system they grew up in doesn't work.
Facts and they programm kids Now
That’s just ridiculous
Its currently working
Works for many people tho. People just want an easy life but bro that's not how this shit works. Stop blaming external factors
@@olblue3478 Like hell it is. I don't know a single person that does anything except for work and they get more and more unhappy year after year. Well, besides my grandparents and they are retired.
I lasted 6 months as a 9-5 secretary after college before I quit because I realized I was having constant stomach problems, suicidal thoughts, and nightmares about work.
thats literally my life rn @.@
@@erica653 I hope you're okay bro 😔
Every job I've worked in my adult life has landed me in a psych ward because I was afraid that I would hurt myself or my employer. Last job I worked, they would lock me and 3 other guys inside the building from 9pm to 8am every night but only paid us for 8 hours on the clock at $11/hr
They also expected you to show up around 45 minutes to an hour before shift started because sometimes they would close early.
@@erica653same. It sucks im not even able to enjoy my full weekend because half my saturday is trying to relax the other half is actually relaxing for 3 hours then sleeping and sunday is deal with the mental strain of having to go back to work and deal with the shit again on monday. I can only enjoy my weekend if i have a 3 day weekend now which is rare.
@@KillerOstrich Sundays are literally the most anxiety educing thing ever because I know work is tomorrow!!!
She was venting her frustration and basically the public went “stop complaining it is what it is continue the grind or else ur punished” like she’s saying she doesn’t mind working but she also wants to be HUMAN.
You're not wrong but on the other hand, I got by perfectly with my 9 to 5, I had plenty of time on my hand (even with the occasional additional work hours) to go out with the wife or game with my friend.
And I got a kid now and even then, it is definitely manageable, less "me" time for sure, so it feels a bit more grindy at times, but It ain't bad at all, I still get to spend time with the kid every day.
Maybe her commute is actually brutal and takes her 1+ hour though.
@@TontonGahu You're blessed with lots of energy that some don't have.
@@ScooterCat64 i dont feel so, but who knows, I mean I also don't know how the situation is in the US. Anyway, that does not change the fact that she did not deserve to be trrated like that.
Working 40hrs/week is not “the grind” 😂
@@FBZOMBlESyea but you expect her not to want a break? A nap even??
It’s so sad just how many senile, miserable, complicit people will sit there, and ridicule young people who are just now being thrust into this oppressive system, that they themselves never had the courage to speak up about. It’s why shit doesn’t change.
Exactly!!! Or they say “it’s how it’s been for years why change it” it’s the people who don’t want change because they’ve found something fine with it but can’t accept that others can suffer when they might be fine with it
@@tweenytwinkies 📍📍📍📍
Haha it’s not oppressive god you people are so weak
It’s not oppressive you’re just incredibly weak minded
He forgot to mention boomers could afford nearly anything they wanted of the 40 hour work week. New generations get nothing. All while being told by boomers "that's just the way it is"
The worst part of the blatantly stupid standard 9-5 schedule is that no one can ever give a good reason for it even existing. I have a very personal example of that to share with y'all, if you don't mind my subsequent rambling.
I used to work customer service representing a large corporation, but working under a smaller, dedicated Call Center company. So while I represented Big Corpo, I actually worked for Smol Corpo.
Smol Corpo treated me well. They offered a 4 day/week (10 hour shifts) schedule, entirely remote. But they were based in another province (equivalent of a state in the US, I'm Canadian), and Big Corpo was based 20 minutes away from my place, so it only made sense for me if I wanted to move up the Corpo ladder eventually, that I would actually start working for Big Corpo instead, since they offered the same exact position, and were more than happy to bring me in (I'm a good employee).
Here comes the big BUT, however. They ONLY offered a 5 day a week (8 hour shifts) schedule, entirely in person. And when I asked to work ny prior 4 day/week, 10h shift schedule, I was completely denied, and was never even given a reason other than "Eh, it's just the way things are. We can only offer you that option." No reason, just "fuck you", basically, even though I did the EXACT. SAME. JOB. with the previous company, on a fully remote 10h 4-day/week schedule. They wouldn't even accomodate me for a few days at home, even though we worked on LAPTOPS, and the 10 hour shift schedule fit perfectly in our opening hours for the Call Center.
So I left! And I now work a 4 day/week, 10h shifts schedule, fully remote, at another company, who treats me and my coworkers with more respect.
This whole BS is honestly just stupid people following other stupid people because the stupid people before them fabricated a stupid, outdated system that completely sucks the life out of you.
It's only outdated and stupid if you think it exists to benefit you in some way. It works better than any system to ever exist in all of human history for the reason it was designed: funneling wealth, power, and resources to the bourgeoise.
I’ve been realizing this around me every day lately. I just turned 18 but I’ve been doing community college and working for years already, and all of the seemingly random out of the blue shitshows I’d find myself in are starting to make sense in retrospect.
It makes me think of the kind of character in a tv show or movie that feels 100% confident in bullshitting, like a Saul Goodman type-cause they’ve realized the people they’re interacting with don’t even know what they’re talking about themselves, and will sabotage your entire story if you let them take control. It’s rough out here dude, and morons speak with such confidence you’d almost fall for it.
the 9-5 was invented almost 100 years ago at this point but still somehow it sticks because of reasons. i think some of those reasons probably have to do with the employers getting in to the pockets of government.
I had a boomer tell me that she used to get paid $3 an hour and she worked her butt off for it. like congratulations Susan you have a house land and three cars. I'm working my ass off for $10 and can barely afford insurance or rent right now.
Stop lying
@@The_king567How is she lying?
@@ohnomybatterysdead2725 because what’s she said is wrong
@@The_king567clearly you're like 8 years old or somethin
@@kai1x_ nah nice try tho you loser
Boomers when people don't want to waste their lives away for barely any money: 😡
Millennials and boomers, when they realize no one cares about their bitching, get back to work!
@@James_Rustled Reactionary simpletons who misuse the word “bourgeois”: 🤤
"Reactionary simpletons" someone's still upset about those wedgies from homeschooling!@@pochi3977
Blame your government for this they do it on purpose 😹
@@Nolimitsbestfriendwe know this but the discussion of This gets people: 😡
It is legitimately criminal how much effort and time some people have to put into their "job" compared to how little they get out of it. I 1000% feel for this girl. At one point I worked a job where I had to get on public transit at 5:30am and didn't get home until 7:00pm.
I get tbe struggle, but it's not really the jobs fault you had a crappy commute.
@@justifano7046well its not really her fault she has to work to SURVIVE w/ that logic. 😂
@@kai1x_get a different job
@@Anarcho-harambeism easy for u to say, thats why they said 'at one point'. Also I dont travel far to work so good on u for assuming👍most people dont have a choice whether they like it or not so your response is idiotic nonetheless.
@@kai1x_ good for them, they got another job, and it is within your control, there is a surplus of job openings, I've works jobs that I wish id hadn't, I've work jobs I've really enjoyed, I've had to travel 2 hours, and I've had to wake up at 0300 every morning for days on end. I've had jobs that break you mentally or physically(fuck diesel motor disassembly). It is a choice, there always is a choice and hundreds of options you don't even know about because you never look for them.
We’ve had this problem for generations: “My generation had to suffer so now yours has to too.” When are we gonna realise how fundamentally useless and backwards that thought process is and finally break the cycle?
Never.
@@amberheardslawyerprofessor5266
if you keep thinking like that it will never happen, it starts with thinking then saying then doing
i hope that gen z continues the trend of breaking the cycles of generational trauma passed down from the baby boomers
this sounds like the cycle of hatred in naruto "Love is the reason why there is pain. When we lose someone precious to us, hate is born. Vengeance is the product of that hate and so death follows. But in death there is only more death. This will give rise to more pains. In this cursed world we live in, it is a cycle of hatred that will not cease. You and I seek the same thing that Jiraiya-sensei wanted. Let me ask you this: How will you confront this hatred in order to create peace?"
Yeah, it's holding back progress. If the people younger than you are happier than you then you'd hope that eventually their joy would make you joyful too. It's such a cruel and selfish mindset.
She is 100% right. A lot of us just work eat and sleep and feel like we don't have time for anything, plus we can't take time off because we can't afford to😢
Stop lying
@@The_king567?
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797you heard me
Try not having food to eat...
Atleast you can afford food and a roof over your head
Privileged Americans
@@The_king567?
Anyone who DOESN'T agree with what she's saying is either delusional, missing the point, a corporation, or just flat out wrong
So you're saying that people shouldn't have to stsrt at the bottom they should just automatically get the job hours and pay they want
Or they haven't worked a day in their life
@@jamesgentry13Boomer ahh take
There’s a thing called work ethic.
You have to start at the bottom. That’s how it works. Recent college grads are so unrealistic. I was the same way. You have to put in work experience. You get handed things in life
Missing the point @@ZiggyZou
Literally my experience at my fist big girl job. And then they doubled my responsibilities without a pay raise or promotion. I quit one week before my one year anniversary there. Now I work part time making more than I did back then, and have an actual work-life balance. Keep pushing it’ll get better!!
Thank you for this comment! 💙
+1. Things get better if you work for it. It's the IRL experience grind. Get the skills/experience and move on. Don't sit around idling thinking things will fix themselves.
@@LivvieLynn Not really possible when the majority of jobs within 10-15 miles pays *at most* 12.50/hour. I can have all the experience I can possibly get and still get paid jack shit for said experience.
Feel ya.
First job started ok, but then over time they started piling more responsabilities on, and didn't even bother to train us for those new task.
"You will learn on the march" said the boss.
The excuse for this was "this other department needs some extra help, so from time to time you will do their job".
Then out of nowhere they told us that the other department was fired and we would the ones doing their job.
I managed to get myself moved to another position that turned out to be worse because we were understaffed and when I did a good job at completing my tasks the gave me even more task.
Was working 9.5 hours five days per week for a shitty salary.
Soon after my first aniversary I quitted.
I got a new job soon after.
Work only 40 per week instead of 48 and the salary is way better.
No bullshit task thrown on you out of nowhere.
Just clock in, do the job you were hired for, and clock out.
My first job out of college was at Amazon and the hours were 5x worse than this girl complained about. It was absolutely miserable and they only paid $80k a year.
I quit that job and found one where I can work from home and now I make $90k for only working 2/3 of the hours. Hang in there guys it will get better!
The worst part is that there are a lot of people working 10+ hours a day for most of the week, just to afford rent. And promotions add a dime to your wage. Corporations and land owners are so unbelievably greedy.
America. Capitalism
@@tomcruiiseship9461 Land of the free, if slavery is what you call freedom.
its truly saddening that after working tirelessly throughout the year lot of workers cant even afford a 2 weeks vacation, somethings needs to change asap, people living like zombies breaks my heart
Yea if they work at McDonalds….
Corporations, landowners, and let's not forget the government! You know, the select group of people that are supposed to have the people's best interests at heart. The select group of people that instead takes money out of our paychecks, gas, and even food, just to shove even more money into our over funded military.
Literally "Why are you booing me, I'm right."
Also that lvl 99 grind on RS back in 2007-08 was RUTHLESS
I was more partial to the Diablo 2 level 99 grind
Mo$99$😊😊@@@@@“@@
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Thank you for this fair take, Charlie. I feel like most people with untraditional jobs or who simply get to be home and be their own boss wouldn’t understand. My 9-5 routine is something that has been really getting me down lately. I have been working a 9-5 since 2021 and have felt completely disconnected from the rest of the world. You have to wake up at a time you dont want to wake up, drive to a place you dont want to drive to, wear clothes you dont want to wear, and spend 9-10 hours with people you dont want to spend any time with to begin with. by the time i get home, make dinner, clean the dishes, work out, and finally shower and lay on the couch its 9:30-10pm. I have no time for the things i love like video games, movies, or comic books. Its soul crushing. And heres the BIG plot twist. This is coming from somebody who LOVES their job and only has a 20 minute commute! I have NO idea how my friends who commute to the city or have all commission jobs where you dont even know if you’ll get paid that week do it. So this girl i can relate to, and I hope she finds a way to better handle this career path or have the opportunity to change it because its rough out here.
Working from home sounds great but most jobs like in factories or grocery stores don't have that possibility
Okay, but if you are paid appropriately, would you still complain?
@@yeetboi268 there are getting paid alright but everything is getting way tp expensive
The thing is she is mostly complaining about the commute. She does say that she likes her job, but just the fact that so much of her life is dedicated to it is the problem.
@yeetboi268 if you read his comment you might understand the underlying issue isn't monetary
The most annoying part about this is that some people are acting like non of this was an issue 4-5 years ago.
Oh it definitely was, but now it’s more commonplace and widespread
It’s been an issue for decades , the thing is , humans are sheep , and Aslong as they’re doing better than the next , they’re satisfied with life , so they won’t change shit
This has been as issue for decades
yep 100% agree. I think part of the reason why a lot of boomers didn't think it was much of a problem back then was because they had a wife that would just cook for them during the day and do all the work and be able to just eat straight away once they get home. Then they could just relax with someone. Nowadays, some people are just stuck in a permanent loop with no one to see when they get back home
Yup. So true. Even though it is notably harder since the pandemic, the brutality of it all has been on the increase since around the late 50s to early 60s (A glorious era where even CEOs had caps)… But a massive blow was when “From Wikipedia: President Nixon canceled the 1944 Bretton Woods system that tied the US dollar to gold. So, the gold prices were fixed and the inflation rate was highly moderate. In 1971 President Nixon decided to abandon the gold standard.” Not all that long after then you have had the introduction of invisible money/money from nothing (Computer code), so as a result we are completely screwed… The overall debt for the world is roughly 12 times higher than the amount of physical money that is currently available!! We are now in an era where CEOs can easily make well over a thousand times as much as the average worker!! An era where financial corruption is truly rampant…
I just got into an argument with my dad about this a few days ago because i told him i DONT CARE about the company i work for if i died tomorrow theyd replace me in a day they dont care about me beyond am i achieving production standards and am i causing them HR issues so WHY would i care about them beyond clocking in and clocking out its a JOB if i didnt have bills i wouldnt be doing it
I’m so happy to hear this take from you. My husband works his ass off 50+ hours and I can’t get a job because even with both of our incomes we can’t afford child care and make “too much” for assistance of any sort (childcare, food, transportation, etc.). Before kids, I was military for 10 years and then on the 9-5 grind since I got out. I’m 37 and feel like a failure because we aren’t “stable” yet.
It's by design honestly, the bureaucracy in America and its donors/investors do not want the average person to be happy.
you are a awful wife and woman. You cannot find a job? No, you just cant find the job you want to do, which is one where all of your needs are met and you are well-paid on top of that too. There are plenty of freakin jobs out there, you just dont wanna do them
@@AkiyamaKatsukonot true
@@AkiyamaKatsuko this is not by design. This is what the American people want. Notice not a single person protest against this? You can't just blame everything on the government or corporations. The citizens have responsibility for their country and it's future too.
@@Dave_of_Mordorcan’t really protest when I have to be at my 9-5 so I can eat……..
Glad more people are prioritizing well-being and happiness, instead of prioritizing profits for ceos
They shouldn’t
@@The_king567well then what's the point of making profit? We go to our jobs to make money to be happy, and if our work doesn't give enough time to use that money to be happy then what's the point of working?
@@pneumon6990 easy money is money
@@pneumon6990 making profit for the CEOs these kids suck off on the internet thinking they will be like them one day
@@pneumon6990you’re brainwashed work isn’t life
The boomers complaining fail to realize that life expenses used to be affordable but no longer are.
And the blame falls almost entirely on them for it. Their greed and selfishness has backfired on them and punished future generations who have done nothing to deserve it. And when they die, those of us that actually work hard and deserve to live comfortably most likely won't because we'll be stuck cleaning up their mess.
The medication that I am legally required to take in order to keep my drivers license which allows me to work at all costs almost $20,000 per month.
@@paigemosher8697 More indolence to the worsening of it all and tolerating and even praising of swindlers.
I had this same argument with my Mom. I was telling her how my wife and I have been struggling lately and she started going on about how we could "eat less meat" and how she and dad used to be able to "get by off of $20 a week" I think she realized how stupid that was because as soon as I said "but that's not going to work in today's money" she backed off of that one.
I love my Mom but she really infuriates me sometimes and is unwilling to see a problem from any perspective besides her own.
Most of the boomers are fkin idiots and cannot realize anything that happened in the last 30 years
You know what would make it worth working a 9-5? If we were able to actually afford anything! Been out of college for almost 3 years and not only myself but many friends included were all still stuck living with parents because moving out and getting our own place would be financial suicide. Absolutely ZERO motivation to work if we can’t actually afford anything of our own..
He forgot to mention boomers could afford nearly anything they wanted of the 40 hour work week. New generations get nothing. All while being told by boomers "that's just the way it is"
Exactly, how can billionaires be the most greedy , doesn’t make any sense
As charlie said: "I suffered, so everyone else has to suffer" sums up everyone complaining about her.
Working at Walmart 2-11 I can sympathize with her. There's really no time to do anything. Corps have too much power; if you could be paid double but only restricted to half of your current hours, everyone would be more productive.
theyd be more happy, but less productive for the company, thats the issue.
Working grocery is soul sucking. I work at the deli section making hot food, even tho it's not as busy as restaurants, it feels infinitely more difficult, just because you can't get any rhythm like you could at a restaurant. Too much multitasking for 1 person, and if you get 10 minutes overtime, the closing managers give you a certain look, like I just ruined their day because nobody bothers to help to close early. Oh and I spilled boiling water on my chest while being in a rush just because the coworkers are crackheads with no patience, melting the skin off and nerve damage for a week and they expect me to just shrug it off, like I'm holding them hostage.
Fellow Walmart worker here, night shift. Yeah my social life is essentially nonexistent, hell I barely got the energy to do LAUNDRY and other basic shit sometimes because I’m constantly exhausted. And even though our team gets paid the most in the store (not counting leadership and singular positions, of course) I scrape by the bills an inch. This is hell, we are in hell.
Ugh I hate swing shift 2-11. You get home late so you gotta sleep and I am not an early bird. Id have no time to do anything but go straight back to work...
Agreed! I’m ex military and had most days 10-12 hrs if not more. After I separated I took that mindset into my following jobs, but wages to live or have any free time became so exhausting and I was so burnt out at some point I ended up having a mental break and almost took my life. Now I’m still struggling trying to find a different way forward that won’t put me right back where I was. If it works for some and they’re happy with how their lives are then that’s great, but some people just want to be able to enjoy life and have a human experience. Doesn’t mean people don’t want to work just to make enough to live and enjoy the short time we have here without dedicating every waking hour to a corporation.
Thank you for your service and stay strong! Its never worth giving up everything you've worked for
@@ChickenNugger922Tactical Aircraft maintenance. I spent many hours learning the ins and outs of the f-22 raptor, but they required a ton of maintenance. Most days were a min of 10 hrs, but at the worst I remember pulling 12-16hr days for about 6 months straight and that was without weekends. Ended up taking a huge toll on both my and my brother unit to the point people were actually writing the suicide hotline’s number in the dirt & grease of the weapons bays on the jets. People wonder why there’s such a high suicide rate for military members, but when people are worked like slaves and nobody cares and nothing changes sometimes it feels as if there’s no other way out. Don’t get me wrong I had good times too, but some of it was very brutal and there were very dark days for me and all my brothers and sisters around me.
@@ChickenNugger922haha yup the motto was “embrace the suck”
As a fellow crew chief, I completely understand. I worked on F-15s on the flight line and in phase for years until an injury I suffered during a launch finally progressed to the point where I realized I couldn't reenlist. Eventually, I received word from the VA about the severity of my back injury. When I was in, I was so afraid it might look like I was trying to get out of work that I never really got my back checked out as I should have, regardless of how much it started to hurt. It turns out I was born with an extra disc in my back that, according to the VA doctor, was probably crushed like an eggshell. I continued working on jets for years after because I simply thought everyone's back was supposed to hurt after working on jets for a while.
The "good work ethic" that I was praised for by my supervisors means nothing now because it damaged my body so badly that I can't work as a mechanic anymore. I'm glad I'm out, and I'll never pretend that working doesn't suck, whether it's a 16-hour shift on Christmas or an 8-hour shift on a Tuesday. sorry if this was a bit long i haven't seen another maintainer in a bit.
@@wowwowwow7139Always great to hear from a fellow crew chief! I’m sorry to hear about your back, and you’re right that was one of the biggest fears while in was talking about any pain or mental issues so you didn’t look “lazy” or “weak”. I know how slow the VA can be on almost anything, but I really hope they get you taken care of brother!
It’s always crazy to hear how that “good work ethic” from military cause so many of us to push ourselves and break our bodies putting service before self, but when we get out we’re all but forgotten. Life is short and I know too many that can’t live it to the fullest anymore because of some sort of service disabilities caused from pushing themselves too hard.
And it may be a hot take, but I don’t believe we’ve been in any kind of war or conflict fora long time that should be having our service members pushing themselves to the breaking point like that.
But much love and respect brother and I hope you’re able to heal up and are doing well in all other aspects of life!
This reminds me of what Stalin did to his population "If they resist starve them even more until they stop resisting" and now modern work ethic will make you work more and more until you can not argue for better quality of life because you just physically and emotionally can't do it
Y’all are literally advocating for Communism just stop. You have school tomorrow go to bed
That didn't happen lol, what? The USSR had a literally more democratically organized workforce than anything that has ever existed in America.
LITERALLY drains and sucks the energy outta you. Genuinely digusting.
I think we can all agree that the major problem with this is not _just_ that you have so little time for yourself, is that most people with a 9 to 5 (or basically 40+ hrs a week) job just aren't earning enough to take a good vacation or just quit and not have to worry about basic necessities. Its even worse because it used to be a rumor and secret how wage stagnation was on purpose but now they even say it live on podcasts, talks and courses, they legitimately strive to keep people barely capable of paying bills so that they can't quit for fear of homelessness and poverty.
He forgot to mention boomers could afford nearly anything they wanted of the 40 hour work week. New generations get nothing. All while being told by boomers "that's just the way it is"
You're 100% right, it's so fucked up. I think most people would be fine with working an 9-4 if they could at least pay the bills and save up to buy things that they want to enjoy their life. Back then, women weren't encouraged to work because they could just live off of a man and so that man would just come home to a meal and not spend 2 hours cooking just to go to bed immediately after.
vacation is not a right its a western privelage, noone in history had "vacations" they lived their entire life in the same place and worked most of the year, stop acting like you need a vacation, better work life balance yes, but vacation is not neccesary
@@AM-bm9rs 😂😂😂😂
“Screw problem solving, I had to suffer so you have to suffer” is the mentality.
Equality is the mentality.
I'm dumb, but if I was smart maybe I could help -nobody at all
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think another largely undiscussed reason why we hate 9-5 jobs so much is that our cities are so car-dependant that they compound the problems. Lots of people can spend more than an hour or an hour and a half driving to work, which is unpaid and eats directly into free time that otherwise might have made people happier. Not to mention, driving in traffic is stressful. We need more walkable cities and more train lines running in the United States. When I worked in D.C. and had to ride the MARC commuter rail down there, I had a great time just relaxing on the train and walking in the city.
"Walkable cities" and train rides just add to the commute time, unless your job is a block away from your home. And to be honest, if I had to ride public transit in most American cities with crime being as bad as it is these days, I would be even more miserable.
I can't even imagine how sad and miserable you have to be to think "I suffered, therefor everyone should have to suffer". Like, humanity could achieve anything we want. Instead, this. It's really sad
A lot of people have this disconnect between them and the world, because to them, as long as their life is good, that is all they perceive. They can't see past their own happiness, it blinds some people and causes them to lose empathy
@@richcast66this right here, people lack empathy
That was the human experience for millions of years
@@The_king567humans haven't existed for millions of years. Unless you're not homo sapiens like the rest of modern humans
Don't let the corporations turn you against your fellow humans, working "bad" jobs is no one's fault, they have to be filled by someone and everyone deserves time and money to live life - there's more than enough money to pay everyone for reasonable hours and reasonable work, it just gets sucked up by the billionaires, whose wealth is made of what they kept from their workers
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
My dad work 8-4 (but more like 7-5, because of commune)
His company definetely under pays him, not only that he is supposed to be retired, but the company needed someone as skilled and experienceed as him because the new hires realized the pays is dogshit and leave.
Not until the CEO/Leader changed that they start actually paying new hires more than old hires (granted they do have higher education).
The new leadership realized they cannot afford to lose the veteran workers, so a lot of my dad's college that got hired at the same time as him, is either getting higher pays or being asked to come back from retirement on a 6-month contract long.
My dad has renewed this "6 month contract" for 3 years now, lmao. He just love his job, because he don't really need money anymore. He have retirement funds and my little brother will finish university in a year or two. Everytime visited my parent home, there's definetely a new expensive stuff being bought.
My point is, corporations under pays their employee. They only give them more money out of necessities.
God i am still mad at the story of my dad selling his car to so he can afford my big brother university costs.
I paid half of my univeristy tuition, and never ask my parents money for extra stuff cuz i got lucky and found a online job.
But just here to point out even previous generation got played by big corpo. Their lives is slightly better, yes, but they still get screwed over.
You are everything wrong with this world
@@LordFakeGodzNo lie I was working a job in the manufacturing industry just trying to get some experience under my belt man $14 and hour but with nice bonuses so that made up for the low pay good 401k and benefits but they were doing reviews and no pay raises they only raised me up to $15.50 and I’m talking I’m sweating all day doing heavy lifting all day with mandatory PPE on over as well hot af and helping other departments but still had bonuses so it was cool and when Covid happened my supervisor didn’t come in so I had to work alone and was doing great then my supervisor got injured didn’t come in for months I did great and so I was expecting a raise to a decent amount well nah what they did was keep me at the same wage and no more bonuses meanwhile they were taking all the grants and buying new equipment and stuff so I said nah I gotta get out of here had a friend of a friend tell me about an opportunity and I put in my two weeks and had to leave man
Complaining about working 9-5 is entitled now? Everyone who works 9-5’s complains about it literally every day. I’ve been working full time for almost 20 years.
I commented on stream, but 9-5 takes away a lot from life. I had to rehome my 1 year old Rottweiler not because she was aggressive, everyone who met her would actually tell me about how well trained she was. I had to rehome her cause of my 9-5 would wake up at 7am shower and commute an hour to work on the bus and same back home. One day woke up late and had to run out to get to work and between her waiting hours for me to come back home she had an accident in her cage which led the other condo owners to complain and the HOA forcing me to rehome her. I miss my dog and can blame the fact that I didn’t let her out of her cage to the accident but I also wouldn’t have had that issue if I didn’t have to commute for so long to my 9-5 job just to live
that's horrible
Yeah we got our cat like that. Old owner couldnt keep him anymore and hes fr the sweetest guy
I want a dog so bad! but with my own 9-5 (realistically 7-6:30)
It's also not fair to the animal to never be home
You guys work 9-5? My usual work week 5-3
I'm going through this. I work a 8 to 4 :30 in retail. Ive done retail for 7 years and it only seems to get worse. Between the trickling down of bs from management, lack of workers, and the classic customers deciding to treat you like shit if you dont have something they want. Its just maddening. I had to go to therapy for depression and pent up rage.
I'm in food service working 9 to 5:30, and I feel that. Hang in there, man.
if we dont have jobs, how to get money? no shopkeepers. no construction worker. no farmers. lol. the world can not function without jobs. so why do charlie mean jobs are bad?
Worked retail, after 10 years, I left. Best thing I've ever done.
@@darawilliams6298 what do you do now?
Hold up how the hell did you afford therapy on a retail salary?
Wrote a paper about this for my college class. France and Japan are trying to implement only 4 day work weeks. Look it up, I think that’s a hell of a solution
Edit: there is a productivity curve, look it up. The 5th day of work (Friday) is the lowest. Also 5 days creates burnout so you work less throughout the week. Productivity will take a hit but not as much as you think. Also a solution is to hire more. Companies can afford to but they are greedy. If you disagree you’re a moron NPC being used by your cooperate overlords, and you’re are a wage slave
that would require higher wages or lowering the cost of living. pretty complex issue if you ask me
@@taradikoff123 CEO and executives have only gotten richer and the people have only gotten poorer. You are deceived into thinking the top elite can’t fix so many issues including ones like this. The elite are so rich you can’t even comprehend it. We definitely can afford to get a day off trust me
@@taradikoff1234 10 hour workdays in the us has a very positive work life balance for most people.
I work 4 days a week at my job
Lower productivity with less pay? Or forceng higher pay for less work?
One of the number one regrets people have on their death beds is working too much. So take that as you will
100% agree with her. I work construction in the city so I wake up 3am take a one and a half hour train ride work till 3pm get home at like 6:00. Leaving before sunrise and getting home after sunset really feels like shit
Yeah man, feels like you never even slept when you wake up. Like wtf... its dark out when i go to bed and when i wake up? nice..
Wanna switch places
@@olblue3478switching jobs is not a valid solution. These jobs are necessary, and even if they improve their life by switching jobs (which is way easier said than done), someone else will have to fill in that place and live the same miserable life they did. Imagine if everyone just left minimum wage or jobs with long hours and little pay to compensate, what now? We have no restaurant workers, no cashiers, no construction workers. You see the problem?
@@cat_agentreal if everyone organised to do that all the buisnesses would shut down, the elite live off people working and earning them money while they collect all of it, if you really want them to let you earn higher then stop working for them, even if it means you have to die doing it, because if they arent making any money they will soon start making compromises
I used to be a forklift operator at a construction site and recently got fired because I came back super late from running errands on my lunch break (Went to the postal office and there was a really long line). Remind you, my start time was 6am and we finished around 6pm/7pm, so by the time I got off, none of these 9-5 stores are open including the postal office which opened at 8:30 and close at 5pm like excuse me for not having time to do anything before and after work to handle business. I’m glad I was terminated because screw that place. Nobody says anything when HR’s little lapdog leaves work early everyday but god forbid I come back late from my lunch break and it’s a problem.
I work 12 hour shifts and every day I’m at work it feels like a whole lifetime before I finally clock out. Clocking out is the most relieving feeling to me
Dear God I remember doing 12-13 hour shifts it broke my boss he just walked out one day then I put in a 2 week notice
It sounds like you REALLY hate your job. Like, you are a square peg and the job is a round hole. I worked a manufacturing job for a month and it was clear I wasn't cut out for that shit. 6 hour shifts felt like 10. I hate working too, but now I'm in a job that you finish your work, you leave. So much nicer. There's a goal you're working towards every day instead of just watching the clock tick down.
It's gonna take at least a couple more generations before anything can actually changes. People are too stuck in their ways right now. Older generations almost unanimously reject anything less than a 40 hour work week even when all evidence points towards a 32 hour work week being just as, if not more productive than 40 hours. Part of it has to be that either older generations hate their families and want to be away from them as much as possible, or they have no idea what to do with themselves outside of work so they'd rather stay where they're comfortable.
It’s also just wanting people to suffer like you did. And miserable people in general. Also the Christian “virtue” of suffering is another major obstacle that needs to be overcome.
Hell, 32-36 hours a week seems more reasonable then 40+. Bump most people pay up by 25% to make up for less hours and we'll see less suicides and broken people.
Older generations gotta go , cuz last time I checked , most of them retired, why tf do they have a say in this
I think we need 3 day weekends aswell, 2 days off is just ridiculously fast
Yeah, you have one day to rest and recover, a second day to do your chores/errands and then back to work. I'd rather work 10 hour shifts for 4 days than 8 hrs for 5
@@kram9863that’s what I’m currently doing , when you’re off is great , but when you’re working , you’re miserable, it’s literally your entire day gone by
@@kram9863Unfortunately, 10 hour shifts isn't really a worthwhile trade off in my opinion. Sure you get an extra day off, but you lose 2 precious hours from your evening on the work days. So it's like on those 4 days a week that you work, you're living only to work and then come home and pass out on the couch because you're too drained to do anything fun when you get home. Now I can get behind 8 hour shifts, 4-day work weeks lol
This is why I switched to a 3 day work week, where I do 12 hours each day. 36 hours with the occasional extra shift, and a very nice 4 day weekend to live and do what I want
I used to pull 4 12's in a row and have 3 days off. That was the only good part about that job. lol While I don't mind my current job and work schedule if I could figure out a way to make that 4-day work week happen again I would.
I work four 10-hour shifts and I still find my life to be a meaningless grind. The weekend goes by in a flash and the next four days are just a slog of waking up, working, showering and eating and then going to bed. It feels like my life is just passing by, and this is the best job I've ever had.
my dudes, i was working 3-11pm 5 days a week, for like 7 months out of this year. with a full time second shift job, you DONT GET A LIFE. its fucking awful. everywhere is closed, you have to go to sleep like 2-3 hours after you get home to make sure you are awake on time, then you get to leave like right away for work. i was miserable, my cats were miserable cuz i was gone all day and my roommate was also working full time. we have a busted ass system, that pretty much every other developed country mocks us for, and the people who defend this shit are the reason why. i still havent gotten a vacation yet btw, 10 months into the year while our manager has gotten 3 :D
full time second shift sucks. I'm of the thought that you only take that position under these circumstances
1. 1st / 3rd shift spots are taken
2. You're working with friends/family during that time at that place of work
3. You're single & want the shift premium to get a little more out of it.
4. You also dgaf about when you work / are insane...
I've worked full time second for 2 years due to #1 before. Miserable experience half the reason is also because I am a night owl / half my friends are across the world so difficult to interact with. Wake up at 8-9am, shower/eat an hour within waking, do stuff till about 2pm but not the hours I like doing things unless it was a day off... then work 3pm - 11pm / 1am, unwind from work till 2am and then sleep. Freetime being restricted to just a certain few hours before work really sucked. Especially Dr appointments since it is hard to get those times where I lived at the time. Always cut it close to work unfortunately.
Graveyard shift now of 11pm - 7am or sometimes 9pm-7am (if doing a 4 day work week) much happier for 6 years on this. 10 min commute as well is a really nice thing. (VERY lucky on this front, others I know can have 30-90 min commutes, insane) I either stay up till noon doing whatever, get the earliest appointments luckily too or just show up to stores as they open which is nice. Sleep from 12pm - 6 or 7pm, things are quieter...can still hit up some errand running before work.
Or I can sleep right away from 7:15 am till 2pm roughly. Then that's 3pm - 10:15pm (I wake up slow always takes an hour to be fully awake) of free time some days to visit friends/family do favors for 'em ie babysit their kid or pets for a bit and run all my errands, and what not. Far more flexible, girlfriend happier too for increased time spent together. Granted some people did not get the concept of when I was sleeping for a while lol. 45 mins to be ready before work in case of car issues every day, always played it safe. Need time to diagnosis it and fix it myself or call for an emergency ride.
Granted you can say maybe I improved time management skills, nah hasn't changed that much they are just decent maybe at best. Again a nightowl is all it is. Day shifts aren't for everyone, and neither are night or graveyard shifts. But some people end up in those hours where it just doesn't work out for them due to positions being filled up, and sometimes those positions may only be available on that specific shift or time of day. Along with the factor of operation hours. If a company only operates 16 hours of the day, (so 5am - 9pm roughly for example) Then that ...can mess with some people but work well for others of course. But again depends if they can get slotted in for the hours they'd prefer to work while still having some semblance of a life, or just get the short end of the stick and have to be an early riser for a job, when they are a slow riser or more of an afternoon/night worker. So many factors....
If they are just a dogshit worker or lazy/incompetent that's something else entirely of course too as a factor lol.
I'm a detective at a large police department, 7-3 Monday through Friday and I'm on call. But even with that my work life/ balance is amazing. And I don't have to do busy work. I could NEVER go back to the private sector work force. The amount of pointless time wasting in the private sector is awful. That's my main issue with it. 40 hours is 40 hours but when 20+ hours of that is spent doing meaningless shit, it makes it way harder.
Thank you for enforcing unjust laws against the working class on behalf of the owning class causing this issue 🤤
@@SefirothPH I'm a crash reconstructionist but sure buddy.
@@Michaelmessler Every single cop has an explanation as to why they're not part of the problem lol. I'm sure, buddy.
I get called to fatal accidents and build a case against the at fault party. I also do civil work against vehicle manufacturers. Explain to me, what part of my job serves the owning class? Based on your opinion here, we align politically. You just have a small minded view of what local law enforcement does.
@@Michaelmessler You doing that is freeing up someone else to be a thug that does the violent part of your job. Like I said, every cop has an explanation as to how they're not part of the problem. This is the same logic as army mechanics pretending they're not genocidal participants in the war machine because all they do is clean wheel wells or screw bolts all day.
Capitalism really did a number on people's ability to have compassion + empathy for other humans, huh?
but why cry about it to strangers where anyone/any employer could see it
I think this is just an example of bad influences from social media, specifically 1) rich people punching down and people blindly following them, or 2) (as charlie mentioned) the collective distain for anyone who "has it easier" than themselves and other people blindly agreeing
the long and short of it is that social media has made it too easy to blindly follow idiots, everyone online needs to be their own person rather than get validation from complete strangers and the empathy part will come back over time.
@@nicolelar7666is just because they can, I don't think is a big deal
What do you want instead of capitalism
Wrong humans are by nature Selfish you need to read a book
It’s crazy how hard people fight to stop progression in areas it should be so easy
The commute is the killer. With everyone on the same schedule, you're always driving in dense traffic or on a bus also stuck in traffic.
The fact that most jobs don't pay you enough to even live in the city you work in is so wild
We've been talking about this recently. My health means I can't work a full 9-5 job, but I don't get how so many do!
40+hrs a week, then maintain a clean house, friendships, hobbies and maintaining self?! HOW?!
Usually it is working a fake 9-5. As in one that lets you off early or where you have a boss that cares more about efficency (usually they even have to cover to keep it that way) rather than torturous timeframes. Basically it is a leadership problem.
Considering how much longer commutes are now compared to how long they were on average for the prior generation, it's about time for the law to catch up and mandate that commuting time be either considered as working hours or be paid in extra time.
Or even the cost be covered, I lose a piece of my soul shelling out $300/mo just to get to work
Anyone who disagrees with her definitely hasn't gone through the misery of a 9-5 lmao
That, or has been completely brainwashed into thinking that working until you die is the way to go.
My misery is from 22:00 to 6:30 with 40 minutes to get there and 40 minutes back :/. Not a lots of free time to do anything either, but I am tired to do anything anyway.
That’s not A miserable experience
@@The_king567just because it’s not for you doesn’t mean it isn’t for a lot of other ppl
@@eghoseisiramen1892 wrong
Very much agree. I’m a lawyer and used to work for a Big 4 accounting firm in NYC. I lived in Brooklyn and my office was in Midtown Manhattan, so my commute was 50-55 minutes door-to-door each way. I would leave home around 7:15am and often wouldn’t get home until between 7:30-8pm. I literally had a nervous breakdown and had to take medical leave. It’s so counterproductive. The work-life balance I was forced to live to be “productive” for the firm resulted in my absence for a month.
After 7 years working for these NYC firms that don’t give a damn about the mental health of their employees I’m just done. It’s a risk, but I’m quitting law and pursuing a career as a content creator because I simply refuse to spend the rest of my life not living.
🔥🔥🔥
you’ll be great! even though you don’t know me I’m rooting for ya
thats nice but content creator isn't a real job, soon our society will realise we have a lack of jobs bc everyone wants to be a content creator and then we will see the real decline of soceity, not saying you are wrong but this mentality is not sustainable in the long term for society
People also have other duties like housekeeping on top. Back in the day in a couple, one person could work and the other took care of everything else. Today more people don't find a partner and even if they do often times both have to work to afford everything.
But the worst part is that in many professions 9 to 5 with 40 hour weeks doesn't even make sense from a productivity standpoint. Many tests of a 4 day work week or 6 hour work day with same pay often yield productivity INCREASES in the long term.
"Today more people don't find a partner and even if they do often times both have to work to afford everything."
very true. i worked 9 hour shifts at walmart full time, nearly $20 an hour and even if i found a cheap studio apartment theres no way i would be able to survive by myself. let alone being so exhausted i spend the entire weekend resting and not doing other productive/ enjoyable activities. couldn’t even imagine having children
$20/hr at walmart is insane, I got paid $8
I friend of mine has a 45min commute to and from work. They’re a teacher, so their working week can be from anywhere between 38-50hrs. He gives up his Saturday mornings to tutor his senior students so that they have the best chance to succeed in their schooling.
He also volunteers for his local fire brigade so some days he can end up on the fire line for hours protecting peoples properties. He’s a martial arts instructor and teaches twice a week.
All of this has culminated in a huge decline of his mental state and he’s had to make the decision to close his martial arts class to free up some time.
Her concerns are very real. I only work 30hrs a week and teach a class myself twice a week and fine it hard to find free time myself.
all for money that can't even buy a house
And then some of these ghouls will be like "well, unless you work 80+ hours a week and walk to work up a hill both ways in the middle of a volcanic eruption and alien invasion, don't you dare complain about anything because you don't know what *real* suffering is."
@@johnwalker1058 Then the rich are like "but these poor people don't even work hard"
Dude as someone who'd worked a 9-5 Monday through Friday before .. Not including the hour and a half commute each way which made my days 7-7 all I wanted once home was food, shower, and sleep. Maybe get a half hour show in during food and before comatosing
i worked no joke 16 hr days. would commute about a hour and some change to my work and arrive at 10AM, then work there all day and night until 2-3 AM on some more brutal nights we would stay until 4 AM. we would then drive back an hour to our homes and sleep for around 6 hours. id come home drenched in sweat and play CSGO for a couple hours sometimes with my coworkers. take a shower n repeat. though sometimes my family was concerned for my well being.
"Oh no you have to work"
Lemme rephrase for the guy.
"Oh no you have to exhaust yourself, deprive yourself of what makes humans human, and still barely make enough money to survive, with no money for big emergencies."
It really looks like its time to start pushing back against this shit, hard. I work 8 - 9 hours in a part of the building that has 0 insulation, so its hot as hell in the summer and cold as shit in the winter. I literally have to wear 2 thermals and a jacket just to keep myself from getting sick in november through february. I make almost twice the minimum wage where I live, and still could barely afford rent. Not even going to touch on the hell my friend has to go through working 12 hours a day 6 days a week in a warehouse with no AC in Texas just to have about $100 for food per check and nothing else after bills are paid. This isn't okay by any stretch of the imagination.
That's your situation though. It seems like that chick was probably working retail or some easy job and still crying about working 9-5. There's nothing wrong with working an 8 hour shift, that shouldn't be the issue here. The real issue is, as you mentioned, busting ass for 8 hours and barely getting by. That needs to change, the cost of living needs to go down to appropriately match minimum wage. Because right now, even nearly double minimum isn't enough. Taxes really needs to drop or go away entirely.
@@BlueOvals24you saying retail is easy tells me you’ve never worked retail if at all
@@Somedude72 Easier than wearing a full bunny suit in a manufacturing fab for 10 hours a day, no doubt. Just put on thick skin for the karens, and if the place has a sufficient training system you should have no issues.
@@BlueOvals24how the fuck do you know that? The point isn’t the fact the job is hard, the point is that 9-5 jobs, regardless of their “difficulty” steal so much of our time from us and soul crushing
@@Somedude72Do not tell me you work retail if you still think it’s breaking your back, you’re literally working the easiest job in the world being payed to work less and sit behind a counter and you’re gonna tell us you’re suffering.
The people dog piling her aren't even old enough to get jobs themselves and it shows 😭
Crazy that so many people don’t think people should have a basic livable wage
A lot of people including myself just decide sleep is less important and reduce it to like 4 hours a night just to have so sort of life outside of work.
I've dedicated my life slaving away for nothing. All my money goes to landlords and food it's been 10 years of this. It feels hopeless. Idk what to do. If I walk from these shit jobs, I'll be homeless. I feel like this is the norm now too. Everyone is just paycheck to paycheck.
Damn you must eat a lot then
@@FBZOMBlES no it's probably just a regular job, even something like 15/hr in this economy is basically paycheck to paycheck.
@@FBZOMBlES cmon man really? between rent, food, bills and car, there's no way to survive. most people are lucky to pull 2.5 grand a month. rent for a bachelor in my city is 1400 a month. add phone, internet, car payments, insurance, gas and food and you're lucky to have enough. and thats in a bachelor with hydro and other bills included. how much you making a month?
This is dystopian...
@@jordankasaur7340 Get roommates.
Here in mexico i get shat on because i dont want to have another job. I already work mon-fri and one full saturday every 2 but i still get "youre wasting your best years to stack on money".
I definitely feel this and feel a lot of empathy for her. I started working full-time two years ago, and it's been the most difficult thing ever to try to adjust to. I thought maybe there was just something wrong with me, but it took me this long to realize it's not me, it's the fact that we work way more than we need to/should. My job is also very mentally taxing and it is impossible to be productive from 9-5 mon-fri without burning out (despite this, my boss only gives one 30 minute break and doesn't seem to believe in coffee breaks or anything like that.) After work it's easy for errands to fill the rest of my time. I want to start my own business, but just the weekends isn't enough time, especially when I often have errands to run on weekends as well, and then it means having to choose between being able to socialize or work on my business. Even just having one less workday would be a world of difference.
Thats why trading time directly for money is just a terrible deal. Passive income is the main thing you gotta aquire and it grants so much freedom and its easier said than done obv lol. Like legit 1500 a month maybe. Ppl buy into this college bs we have been sold and wonder why they are unhappy. They dont arm you with the expierence you need in college to really flourish financially, they only give you a few fancy tickets to get into some specific doors and maybe introduce you to someone important. Buisness and finance is taught in the field not the classroom.
@@cbaileychampwhat do you do to make passive Income?
@@jackdavey4286 he means "if you cant beat em, join em: scam innocent ppl out of their money, or get lucky/know rich people"
if you become part of the problem of greed overpowering ones empathy that is making the world a shitty place, you can be wealthy if youre lucky, at the cost of your soul.
I work at a grocery store, but I work 8-4 full time. I get home at 4:15. They treat me with so much respect that it is hard to find an office job because of how bad office culture is. I see it from how my boyfriend works, he works in tech and he has to commute an hour. His day is spent commuting and working, it’s depressing overall. There isn’t even a promise for a raise or a promotion, more than likely laid off because they see you as a number and not a HUMAN! I agree with her so much
Yeah but we are paid well and able to get a job quickly even when a lay off happens
8 hour work day, 1 hour lunch, 3 hour round trip commute. Then 1 hour of cooking, 1 hour of eating with a tv show, 1 hour of chores, and 8 hours of sleep.
That leaves me with 1 single hour a day for gaming with friends, having a call with family, personal projects, working out, and trying to relax and recover enough for the next day.
Meanwhile i just bought a house because i was tired of my landlord's bs, but the house needs so much freaking work done on it, and my parents are constantly pressuring me to have kids. And im supposed to just shut up, roll over, and not want things to change?
I asked my boss if i could work from home because the commute was killing me and you know what she said? "Well, when I started here I would have to drive 2 hours to work and 2 hours back. We hired you to be in office, so you will be in office" meanwhile my team almost all work from home every day so im just sitting by myself. I cant just leave. This job took a year to find and i need to make enough to pay off my house and student loans.
Im 21 and still living at home. I’ve damn near buried myself in student debt, working a 9-5 and not even turning a profit bc I spend most of my paychecks on my coping mechanisms (weed, alcohol). This shit can genuinely be soul crushing to waste away years of your life like this
Bro you're 21 that is very normal to be living at your parents but yes owning a home in the future might feel like a distance dream for the new generation
That’s not your jobs fault. You’re just mentally unstable.
You’d still be addicted if you worked 20 hours per week and made the same amount of money.
My money has gone straight to a psychologist to fix all the depression and anxiety I've developed thanks to the job 🙃
This sounds more like self sabotage than anything else. You recklessly took out loans and are lamenting with substance abuse wondering why things aren’t great.
@@ganymedehedgehog371 18 year olds shouldnt be taking out such big loans but thats how the system is rn
“…we do that for forty years, and then we die. Sounds like a pretty good deal right?”
-Squidward Henry Tentacles
also, its extremely soul crushing when during that 9 to 5, your not doing the work that you want to be doing. For me personally, if I was doing the work that I enjoyed most, I wouldnt mind working 10-12hrs a day as long as I have enough time to eat sleep and exercise.
But when your doing something you hate, its very hard to find any energy left to do the things that you need/want to do in order to get to that point
Yea that’s why I think having passions/interests is important but even then when you’re really passionate about something and do find a job that aligns with said passion it can quickly become something you no longer love doing because of the work.
i’ve thought about this a lot. if your job is from 9-5, you’ll likely wake up around 6:00 - 7:00 am depending on how far your job is, you shower, eat breakfast, and get ready for your job which will take about one to two hours, closer to 1.5 hours, you might have about 30 mins to an hour to chill before work or check emails. then you get home any time between like 5:30 and 7:00 then you just wanna relax, possibly shower, eat, then get some rest. if your 9-5 isn’t what you wanna do for the rest of your life, chances are you won’t be happy or have time to do what you really love
Boohoo, factory workers work 10-12 hour shifts. That means that before you even leave the building, you have less than 12 hours before you have to be back in it! And don't forget truckers who drive for 14 hours a day, and don't come back home for 2+ weeks, only to have 2 days off and have to get back out there right after. Having had all 3 of these different shifts, I can say the 9-5 is the best because you still have time to unwind each day unless you chose to work 10+ miles away from home.
@BlueOvals24 it's possible to have worked 12 hour days and still have empathy for other people struggling, lol. Used to work a lot of 11 hour/day, 6 days/week. Now I work 8.5 hour days, 5 days a week. Both suck. Both left me feeling like I have no time/energy for hobbies or things that make me happy.
Its like saying someone can't complain about being on fire because *you* stepped in lava. Cool. That might suck more, but the first thing still sucks.
@@BlueOvals24 It could be my misconception but don't truckers make a good salary? And isn't that the point about the commute? if companies paid a wage that allowed their workers to live within a reasonable distance, they wouldn't need to spend so much time commuting. The town I live in is probably an hour and a half from SF but people commute there everyday for work because they can't afford to live closer
@@BlueOvals24yeah but you're overlooking the fact that the jobs you mentioned pay well enough to enjoy your life outside of work. Most of us are barely making enough to even pretend like we can afford to exist. I haven't even thought about spending money on myself for fun because I can barely get enough money together to spend it on Necessities even though I work 50 to 60 hours a week. I really hope this mentality dies out with your generation, won't be long.
@@noodlesofoodles Truckers make a livable salary. And since they're barely at home, they can get away with having a cheap place to live and a cheap car. But that comes at the cost of not being able to see friends or family, or do anything enjoyable for 2 weeks minimum. 1 week for regional drivers, but there's usually less money in that. On top of that, they deal with rude customers/shippers, potentially rude dispatchers, and of course, car drivers that just can't stand being behind a semi, so they cut them off.
I guess it varies depending where you are. I live in a city with a booming semiconductor industry. And only after covid has it been really hard to afford living here. Prior to covid, one could rent a 2 bedroom apartment for 1000-$1200. Now a janky 2 bedroom apartment is 1400 minimum, 1800 if you want something "decent". And 2 bedroom houses for rent almost don't exist, the ones that do are usually $2000 minimum. Obviously SF, among many other places in CA, have always had a higher cost of living compared to most states in the Southwest and Midwest, but now days it feels like cheap living only exists in places with almost no employment nearby.
I’m working a 9-5 while taking night classes and this is the most stressed I’ve ever been in my entire life and I’ve been working since I was 12.
Stay strong. I thought I had it rough, but I couldn’t imagine being in your situation. Hope stress isn’t getting to ya.
We’re here for you brother. Stay strong and don’t let the workload get you down
Facts!!! Just go at your own pace. If you're stressed out and broke anyway then you might as well do college and working at the pace that works for you. We all broke and stressed anyway
And dont be afraid to QUIT for your mental health. None of these jobs are worth the stress and they come a dime a dozen with the little bit they offer us. Dont let them (or anyone else) guilt you into staying in a situation that makes you so miserable
Drop the classes, not like they help any.
i work 12 hours a day at a furniture store, with an hour of commute , 7 days a week. i leave home at 9am and reach back home at 10pm. im this close to sudoku or going full blown sociopath. it's been months since i had a meaningful conversation with a friend. only conversations i have are with customers who i'm trying to sell shit to. it's been months since i had fun. it's been months since i sat down and made music. im usually the friend everyone vents to. and im happy to help but lately, i volantarily ignore vents. because i know one more and im gonna break. this lifestyle is soul crushing. i hope she finds a job where she doesnt have to spend her whole day working.
Please find a new job
@@jordannelson1443 im trying my best bro
Hey are you okay? how you doing now ?
@@SorelPunk oh I had to quit. The boss constantly screaming at us was not helping haha
Saddest thing was getting my new full time job (10 hour shifts 4 days a week) and one of the first things i was asked by several coworkers is if im working part time somewhere else, so far the job itself has been good and pays well but its sad that its still barely enough to pay bills and even while being above minimum wage it would not support a family.
I have always hated how predatory the working economy actually is, and somehow the world doesnt care. There are millions of people working almost everyday to the bone, making minimum wage or slightly more, barely able to feed themself or live comfartably and that for their entire life. Only to one day be so broken down mentally and phisically from work that they cant even enjoy their rent. Its honestly disgusting. And the worst part? People dont care, i have seen so many people be broken down by this disgusting system only for them to spew the same ignorant garbage that their parents before told them "You need to work until you are old, otherwise you will never survive, and your children wont life comfartably". Everyone hates it, everyone is hurt by it, yet no one tries to change it. I always said that the current form of the working economy is simply a modern form of slavery, for everyone making a low salary.
It's hard to explain to some people that just because you've been doing something for a long time that doesn't mean it's right/better/good, that applies for people who say that no one should ever say/complain that "9-5 is bad" because they've been working for longer than the person who wants to complain has.
9-5 jobs is not a healthy way to live and it shouldnt be the standard
It's a bunch of babies who think everything should be easy and free. I feel much worse for grocery store employees whoa are full time. Imagine working 40 plus hours at random times throughout the day, and working every weekend and holiday.
It's just so noormallized to the point where work is people's entire personality sometimes and they don't really understand that work shouldn't be your entire life or that other people just don't want that.
I work a 40hr week office job but with 2 days remote, which makes things so much better. I’m in the office 8-4:30 Wed-Fri but Mon and Tues I work from home 7-3:30. The fact that I can just wake up, brush my teeth and clock in makes so much difference, on top of closing my laptop at 3:30, stuffing it out of sight into my backpack, and getting right onto whatever I feel like.
I work a third shift and It’s difficult because even on my days off everyone else is asleep when I’m awake. It’s definitely sad to feel like I have no time
That's the thing, work doesn't stop at just work. All the time around work is spent preparing or relaxing from work. I'd rather work a job that gives me 3 days off and barely pays anything, than one that pays more with only one or two days. My days off are spent developing skills and growing as a person and I'm extremely thankful for that.
I think it’s a generational understanding problem. A lot of the older generations were born into eras with less technology, so naturally, more work. And that was normal. Now the younger generation sees that technology makes jobs easier, but the cost of living is much higher. I work a 9-5 job that I love, but I barely make enough money to provide for myself and time to socialize.
It’d just be nice to be paid a livable wage. Especially in a corporate America where everything revolves around shareholders and helping the rich get richer lol
It’s a tough position that I don’t know the solution for other than increasing pay without increasing the cost to live.
it's easy to say "kids these days are just lazy and don't want to work!" when working in your generation guaranteed food and shelter for you and your 5-unit family. the cost of living, partnered with inflation, etc., made everything else much more harder to achieve
@@gin-lf9yeexactly why you must formulate a plan and cannot just follow the beaten path nowadays. Bend the law. Lie, steal whatever. Its gotten far too expensive to care about morality in this current day.
@@cbaileychamp I like how people talk about treating people as humans and you are here like "fck everyone else, be selfish". I think thats the exact mentality that got the world into this situation in the first place.
the only way to fix life/humanity not having perfect empathy is to eliminate the threat of universal oblivion, or at the very least personal oblivion.
basically we need to create AGI and the singularity and make it immortal, then follow its lead.
@@gin-lf9yeit’s not harder to achieve
I’m lucky to have an 8-5 job, 5 minutes away from home, make decent money for work that isn’t that hard, and am still able to do the things I like to do. I sympathize with people like her
What do u do if u mind sharing?
5 minutes away from home is fine but it's not fun anymore when you need 1 hour and a half to get to your office
@@PinkCrocodileand doing it for years. And going back after you proved to yourself and your employer you can do it from home just fine….
With the pandemic we all learned that commuting is r3tarded. But now, for some reason they don't think it's r3tarded anymore. I feel like most wealthy people started feeling empty while driving through the city on their stupid SUVs and having no massive amounts of poor people to look down on to make them feel good about themselves, and next thing you know, every company is again asking you to leave your house, be stuck in traffic for hours, just to get inside a building and then proceed to sit on a desk and work with a computer for hours on end. Like who cares if you could do it from the comfort of your home right? If you're not suffering while working, then it's like the work you don isn't valid lol
Having the 4 day work week would be an infinitely amazing change
Um. They will work you like 12 hours a day during those 4 days. You will do nothing but work and sleep during those days.
@@tomcruiiseship9461 dummy thats what we do 5 days a week
@@tomcruiiseship946110 hours for a standard work week. I was on a 4 day schedule for a year and it was fantastic. An extra free day is worth the 2 fewer hours on work days for me.
@@tomcruiiseship9461 I would rather work two 24 hour days and have five days off. Don't care if its exhausting if I only work two days a week. Less days I have to go to work.
@@tomcruiiseship9461excellent maths lad
I've done a 9-5 (for me it's 4am-12pm) for 8 years. Thankfully it's only 4 days a week. I dread the day I'll have to be in dept from college and have no time to live. Is it even worth it? I don't want to live like that, but that's how it is. It makes me want to give up
This was what I was gonna say to play devils advocate. You can spend some time to find a job that suits a better schedule for yourself example on that: one that let’s you work from home or one that is 4 days a week or a mix. I feel like we do have a better choice between jobs but I still get the complaints. Currently working 4 days at an accounting firm and 3 days at a normal job to make extra cash to save, and then also have online classes.
Just don't do college and you won't be in debt.
@BlueOvals24 I don't understand why everyone feels forced to go to college just because what family recommends it? College is not for everyone same like the military or becoming a cop there are so many options out there for jobs even jobs they train you themselves no degree needed so
@RemixedYoshi Exactly. People have it in their heads that college will open so many doors to them, and will do so right away. Sure, it does open more possibilities, but you still have to work your way up. But you have to know exactly what you want to do with that education, otherwise it can waste multiple years of your life and put you into debt equivalent to that of a nice car.
@@BlueOvals24precisely. College will open up more opportunities, but you need to know what you want to do, which is why it is ridiculous that 18 year olds are expected to make that decision so early and are given the ability to get eyeballs deep in debt. I always try to encourage community college first if you aren’t sure to at least knock the gen eds out and save some cash. Community colleges in my area have very generous financial aid, good education quality, and plenty of internship opportunities for experience. At best, you saved some cash, got a scholarship and transferred credits for your next school, or you ended up in a place where an associates and experience is plenty to get in the door. At worst, you explored a bit and didn’t break the bank. The only issue is that too many people still have a negative view of community college. Their loss though. Leaves more opportunities for those that do go
My last job was 8-5 (occasionally 7-5) salaried. I'd get hell if i ever had to take even an hour off for anything. I had "infinite" PTO which amounts to effectively no PTO without it threatening your job. It annihilated me not to mention annoyed me as my boss constantly went on about this generation's work ethic when he left 3 hours early every day.
I worked for a company that was hybrid and we only came in to the office once a week. The days that we were at home were awesome. Everyone got all their work done.
This past year they made everyone come back to the office full time. I have at least 2 hours less per work day for my personal life due to commuting and having to have breakfast ready/shower before work. Obviously that’s 10 less hours a week to myself. It’s kinda crazy how different working from home felt vs how I never feel like I have enough time now. Shit sucks.
And honestly I’ve got it wayyyyyyy easier than a lot of people. I very rarely work OT. my commute is a lot shorter than other people I work with and STILL since coming back to the office I feel like I have zero free time during the week.
Honestly having to grind just to live is fucking bullshit
Sadly, everybody has adopted the idea that “If I’m suffering, everyone else should be suffering too.” Instead of sympathizing with her plight, people are admonishing her for rightfully complaining about the arduous grind of non-fulfilling work.
I love when chat tries to come in with a macho response and Charlie just shits on it 😂
Everything she points out is why i hate living.
In Switzerland you start a 9 to 5 with the age of 15 as an apprentice earning cuple hundred of dollars. While going to school 1 or 2 days a week. The first year was realy hard for me adjusting to not having that much time and being exhausted from coming home late and then having to sit down and study for a couple of hours. Now i have it all figured out and have time for meeting friends and studing. You need to have good time managment to be able to live your life. That being said i do agree with Charlie and have to say that in countrys like america and switzerland work shouldnt demand that much from you. I was able to work in germany for 1 month 7 hours a day. And i have to say it was a massive diffrence, i was able to still enjoy the day and do something.