Toyota 5L to 1KZ-TE Conversion Part 2 - Starting up and the test drive
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2022
- Hey team, sorry for the late post! The internet at the tip is dogging us hard! Here is part 2 of our 5L to 1KZ-TE conversion. This week Shane and Jason finish connecting everything up so we can start her up for the first time. The next day Shane and I return to do the first test drive but it's far from perfect... watch to see what happened!
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Great! Great great great and more great! Thanks for another terrific ep
Legend, thanks Mike! We appreciate all your support.
@@lifeina4wd is the donk a 2.8 or 3L?
Both were 3L, both the 5L and 1KZ
I did the conversion in 2013 into a 1989 LN 106and got the 3L pump rebuilt as a 1KZ-T pump
That is definitely another option - we've had no dramas with the 5L pump on the 1KZ though.
Glad you finally got it all sorted. From what I've read on the Mitsubishi 4m40 injection pump swap, slotting the mounting holes on the injection pump is the way to go, did you need to with the 5L pump? I was going to ask if you'd put the R series box behind it. I'm in the middle of rebuilding one for my swap. How much body lift have you done, 2 inch? Are the heater hoses on the firewall from the 5L or the 1KZ?
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Ok re the pump, no we didn’t with the 5L pump. You physically can’t as there isn’t enough room. The Mitsubishi one may be different but we’d be trying to work with the 2L pump if we were you. They should be similar to the 5L.
Regarding lift, yep 2 inch body lift plus 2 inch suspension. There is heaps of clearance. The body lift is better because it gives you more room for Intercooler pipes with the bonnet.
The 1KZ heater hoses were roughly exactly the same so they just matched up.
Once you delete the egr pipes there is heaps of room to the firewall.
Hope this helps! 🙌🏻
Mate this is legendary. I've currently got the 5l engine and I'm thinking should I just rebuild and turbo it since I don't tow anything or is it worth 1kz-te ing it ??? What's the damage on the bill$$$. I'll be paying my mechanic to do the work btw. Does the 5l turbo and the 1kz-te have much power difference?
I just subscribed. Very entertaining and very informative content brother.
Thanks man!
If you’re paying a mechanic to do it don’t do the conversion to the 1KZ - there’s just waaaay too many hours in it. If it’s just for a daily run around driving turboing the 5L will work a treat for you.
To answer your question about power difference though, there’s probably 20-50hp difference without having it run on a dyno or anything.
Make sure you get the pump built properly and a Intercooler for the 5L and if you’re going to pay someone to rebuild the 5L for you see if they can lower the compression ratio.
hi great video im just curious to why the conversion Toyota 5L to 1KZ-TE Conversion other than it broke down i have a 5l engine with aftermarket turbo fitted and never has missed a beat touch wood in 3years
Yeah so our 5L was a dream… the one that broke down was due to an issue by the people that fitted the turbo. We decided to convert as we are towing 1.1 tonne of trailer around aus which in extreme heats the 5L would struggle and overheat whereas the 1KZ-TE seems to be coping a bit better. We still LOVE the 5L engine!
What did you have to do with the electrical of the 1kz going into the 5L, in terms of the plugs coming into the cab as they don’t all fit. Where the extras just left. Going through the conversion now and not seeing glow plugs ect on the dash when everything is hooked up apart from 4 of the 5 plugs from the 1kz. Cheers for the videos been super helpful 👍🏼
If you’re using the mechanical pump and using the 5L pump and your vehicle had the 5L engine, not the 5Le. You shouldn’t need to do much. The plugs on the fuel pump do the speedo and fuel cut solenoid. The starter is just a terminal, alternator was the same round plug on mine. Then just bolt the same amount of earths on and I used the oe oil pressure switch for an oil pressure sensor. You will need to isolate the glow plug wire from the vehicle and then extend it and bolt it on one of the glow plugs.
Everything else on the 1KZ can be deleted, or just left un plugged. As long as it’s got fuel and glow it will run.
Hey.. lovely swap. I did a swap as well from EFI to a mechanical pump; a bit concerned about the tachometer there; with no EFI pump, will it work? Or is there any workaround to get the RPM meter signal?
It works on ours because the car came with a mechanical pump. For you you’d have to get the dash cluster from a mechanical pump version car (well that’s the easiest way anyway).
Very well done I have a turbocharged 5L and am looking for a 1 KZ to do the same swap. How does the torque difference compare
Thanks mate, yeah the 1KZ is a much better engine. I can’t remember the exact figures, but I think it was 50-70nm higher than the 5L. Definitely get the pump built with 11 or 12mm plunger and high flow the OE turbo. If I had have done that I could have had a bit more power.
Grate video man thanks for it do you think I can do that Convertion on a hj45 or is 12ht engine thanks if you respond
We wouldn’t put a 1KZ into a HJ45, is that what you were asking?
@@lifeina4wd yes is there a conversion kit for my hj45 if so do you sel it or you makes it thanks for your response
I did a 1kz conversion in my ln106 from the 3l when i did it i bought a wrecked knz165 and did the r151and 1kz but when i did it i kept the electronic pump should of gone mechanical looking back just did not have the money at the time but ì have been very happy with my conversion
Wow you would have a lot of electrical work to do right? But that’s sick to hear! Such good engines hey.
@@lifeina4wd yeah had the same problem you guys had no one had done it before so had very little information on everything so just had to spend a bit of time working everything out
It’s incredible that there is nothing online hey, hopefully this series can help anyone in our shoes in the future. Thanks for the engagement and support James, we really appreciate it!
Yeah love seeing your videos the missis and i were up in cape york early this year and had a great time hope you guys injoyed it up there as were are living in Cairns at the moment
Yeah it’s beautiful up here hey, so quiet this time of year. Cairns is beautiful too! We spent a good week there on the way up.
You said you should get a boost compensator for the pump please explain more.
As in what is a boost compensator? If that is your question boost compensators are used in turbocharged engines to compensate the fuel injection quantity in accordance with the boost pressure. If it isn't could we just get a bit more context to your question and we'd be happy to answer in more detail!
Hey cobba, I've fitted a 1kz to a 106 I was going to go the full efi set up but after watching this I may go mechanical.
Got any recommendations for fuel pump builders ?
Hey Jay! Definitely recommend mechanical it's way easier as there is no wiring. JH Hilux in Townsville or Reef Diesel Injection Mackay both know their stuff. Highly recommend them they were both really helpful for us.
Just out of curiosity, did you try moving the pump timing gear then offset the belt by a tooth to change the pump timing but keep the cam and crank in time? If it wasn’t tried do you think it could help?
Yeah we did try that but because it’s all geared it moved the cam and crank out of time then too 😅
Additional note from Shane: the pump and cam are geared together so when you move the pump it pulls the cam out of time.
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Damn that's great,
You are using the same 5L transmission?
Hey! The transmission was changed to the R151 transmission which is the gearbox which comes behind the 1KZ-TE to begin with. You’d need to have that gearbox to do this conversion. We thought we’d mentioned it in the video but maybe not 😅
@@lifeina4wd how about the final gear ratio? You changed anything? I actually also did a similar build✌🏼 I swapped the 5le engine in my prado 120 to an 1kz. But I used the same gearbox.
Been driving it for one year now and I got no issue. What top speed are you getting mate?
Hey bro, any update?
Hi mate
Did you have any problem when putting the R151 gearbox? It enter directly or need modificationn to bolt on the truck?
Yeah you need to move the transfer case mount back 50mm and they usually come with an electric 4wd shift motor so you need to wire that in or if you’ve got the normal chain driven transfer case that goes with the G series gearbox you can swap the input shaft from the electric transfer to the one you’ve got and it’s still mechanical.
What did you do to get 1kz to run on a 5l pump as the engines are timed different, the L series are timed with No1 on compression but the 1KZ is timed with No4 on compression
We didn’t have to modify the pump at all, just the timing adjustments as discussed in the video. The two engines have the same firing order so everything is working fine!
HOW HAS BEEN THE PICK AND FUEL CONSUMPTION AFTER INSTALLATION OF THE MECHANICAL PUMP?
Fuel consumption is about the same as the 5L which is 17/18L per 100km which makes sense as it’s the same pump delivering a similar amount of fuel. It’s definitely not a mod to improve fuel consumption 😅
What do you mean by the pick?
How much power difference is their between the kzte and the 5l ?
And the power difference before you turbocharged the 5l and after?
We actually had the car tuned only recently (first time getting it professionally tuned since the conversion). When we get the engines tuned we ask them to tune for max fuel efficiency and interestingly enough there wasn't much difference in horse power, but a massive difference in torque which has been so handy when towing a heavy trailer.
Regarding the turbo charged 5L and not I'll have to check in with Shaneo when he is back from fishing all day haha!
Gidday mate im currently 1kz swapping my 5le ln167r i have a 1kz a brand new manual pump and the r151 bell housing and gearbox is there many other parts im missing cant find heaps of others swapping this
Throttle cable and linkage are the two biggest ones you’ll need. You need to get that off a 5L or off the petrol engine models.
You’ll need to run some hose for the engine vacuum. It comes off the engine down near the power steering pump on the 1KZ but that’s just hose so that isn’t too difficult. You’ll need to make adapters for the engine mounts.
Depending on the radiator you’re using you’ll need a different lower radiator hose. In saying that I recommend going to the 1KZ or big alloy radiator. You might also need a different fan shroud. The fan is slightly off centre compared to the 5L so we had to have one made.
There is more but we’ll need to think on the rest and get back to you haha!
@@lifeina4wd thanks heaps
Hey mate, did you have to change the wire harness or anything? Looking to swap a ln167 (5L) cab onto a kzn165 which has the 1kz-te. What will I have to change? Cheers
Depends which pump you want to use, if you’re using the 1KZ pump you’ll need the dash, the wiring loom and the pedal from the 1KZ. If you want to use the 5L pump then follow steps in these videos and you’ll need the throttle cable from the LN167. Hope that helps!
Also we had to move the engine mounts to suit this chassis so you may run into that issue too but we discuss that in these videos.
Did you use the fuel lines from the 5L or the 1KZ when you swapped the pump? Looks like they are ported differently to the cylinders. The 5L has cylinder 3 at the top left and the 1KZTE has cylinder 4 at the top left. Just wonder if my timing is off by a cylinder and that’s why I can’t start it.
The fuel lines are from the 1KZ motor. You can only really get the pump side of them back to front. We'd have to have a look to really work out which is which now. Watch out for the fuel pump - it was trapped for us which we discuss in this video so we couldn't get it to the maximum of the range that we should have been able to. Once we got the pump to move as far as it could in the slots and got the full range it was fine. If you have Instagram DM us on there (same handle) and I'll send you Shane's number to give him a call if you want to chat further.
Hi did you do any works on the throttle
@@johnsonbwalya5274 Only making a bracket for the throttle cable to the pump linkeage.
@@lifeina4wd ok noted and the hard starting do I need to make adjustments on the timing gears
How’s your ARB rubbish bag holding up? I’ve read mixed reviews. I’m trying to decide between the ARB and the Trasharoo
We’ve had ours for well over a year now and is holding up a treat, we LOVE it. It’s got two whole bags of rubbish in it right now and full of beer cans for recycling too and still shuts.
@@lifeina4wd good to hear
So did you settle on .8mm pump timing, or have you changed it since?
Yep the .8mm seems to be working a dream now 🙌🏻
@@lifeina4wd Thank you sir! Been running mine at .63mm. I think I'll bump it up to .8mm and see if that will lower my egts any. It runs smooth at .63
@@wims58ej Always worth playing around to see what works best for you. I know we tweaked ours quite a few times until we were 100% happy with it. The joys of doing custom work that is rarely documented online!
Hey mate currently in the process of doing this conversion do I need the gear box or can I get away with just the bell housing ?
Unfortunately not - you need the R151 gearbox. It’s far stronger too, you wouldn’t run anything else with that motor.
@@lifeina4wd thanks guys also this video is extremely helpful thanks soo much
I want to swap 1ktze into a Tacoma with a jdm engine and tranny. Does it come with intercooler or do I need to buy one seperate or can I run without one
Some 1KZs come with an Intercooler and some don’t. I’m guessing you’re in the states?
@@lifeina4wd yah I’m in the states. 1kz seems really easy will I have to extend the harness or run a 1kz mechanical fuel pump on a left hand drive im assuming
@@lifeina4wd I know the 1kz has a push rod for a throttle cable so I would have to use a throttle bracket off like a 2lt or one of the other diesels that uses a pull throttle cable other than that and running new fuel lines and a bell housing and input shaft mod it seems pretty much the same as an engine swap any noteworthy quirks?
mate sounds like you got an understanding Mrs…if that were my Mrs (who is totally against spending money and time on cars)…she’d take that $1500 you beaut torque wrench and shove it up my clacker SIDEWAYS with the box it came in ….after she heated it up with an oxy torch….march me down to get a refund and get the salesman to remove it!
Hahahaha this has had us in stitches. Understanding Mrs here 🙋🏻♀️ and don’t worry he gets reminded by friends and family all the time of how lucky he is 😝
@@lifeina4wd And rightly so...Subscribed!
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